>GROSS! WHEN DID GAMES GET SO POLITICAL?

>>716413036 (OP)
Difference is those other games aren't shit

Difference is those games don't have blacks

>>716413036 (OP)
Political: Makes fun of me
Apolitical: Doesn't make fun of me

>>716413036 (OP)
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/KFWW9sbu3GZtLvC1OrWiOw/

>>716413036 (OP)
op is a fag and his mom is a whore looooool

>>716413228
>>716413228

>>716413036 (OP)
I don't actually care about politics I just really hate niggers

>>716413279
>spamming this shit since the beginning of the year
based archivechad exposing assburger retards

Game with political themes =/= games with identity politics

>>716413036 (OP)
Forspoken was a financial failure.

>>716413194
>FF7 and Deus Ex didn't have blacks

>>716413194

>>716413146
final fantasy is utter garbage though

>>716413347
Think you moved to reply too fast lil bro
Calm down and take a breath

Wtf I love politics in video games now!?!

>>716413036 (OP)
bad politics
good politics
hope this helps

>>716413036 (OP)
>contemporary, shallow modern politics with extreme bias
>political philosophy and themes acted out on the medium to be interpreted by the viewer

>>716413036 (OP)
Nobody said political.

We don't like gay nigger shit

Was Forspoken ever critized for being political? I thought it was always about being "marvel quips", "horrible writing" and "generic worldbuilding".

>>716413512
>Doesn't know what >this is

>>716413036 (OP)
You damn well know the difference between these games.
Lie to yourself if you want but stop this shit

>>716413438
Okiwan

"politics" was a buzzword for bandwagoner retards and third worlders before DEI was internationally recognized as the infiltrative method of subverting creative processes to produce raw corporatized dog shit but with slightly more gays and blacks, no one actually says that anymore

>>716413036 (OP)
>Fallout
Critique of war in human society, the human spirit and desire to conquer our surroundings, how conflict is inevitable
>MGS
Mostly anti-war, themes of human purpose, connection despite adversity, and overcoming the odds
>Deus Ex
Not sacrificing our souls for material gain, making sure we stay in step with each other and give diplomacy a chance and to not rely on authority figures lest they abuse their positions of power over us

>Forsaken
We put an ugly black bitch in our game about like magic or something lol, its a commentary about racism and being hecking nice okay chud?

Do you see the difference in not only intent, but simply the philosophy represented by the writing? Additionally, the excellent point made by the first poster - I haven't played Final Fantasy so I can't speak to those games - but Fallout, Deus Ex, and MGS are all first and foremost FUN, WELL-MADE VIDEO GAMES. Not just a vessel to inject modern political rhetoric into a consumable media to subtly shift consumer's viewpoints.

get fucked shitty bot OP, and fuck the redditor that made the original image as some sort of "gotcha" when all modern discourse surrounding the three games I briefly discussed has been infected by wrongthink like "media literacy" and tainted any genuine connection in favor of adhering to the social consensus filter.

>>716413036 (OP)
Yeah man, I love the parts of ff7 where they tell drumf drumf drumf and talk about modern American politics

While there are some over reactors out there, I personally believe the “politics in video games” complained about are the heavy handed references/lectures. Like say farcry 6 has this Trudeau/Trump lovechild. I get enough of them in real life. I don’t need them in my video games
>>716413653
I know next to nothing about the game but there not being a single important white guy came up iirc

>>716413989
>get fucked shitty bot OP

>>716413036 (OP)

>>716413036 (OP)
Top one isn't even political. It is to many "identity politics". It doesn't really have anything to do with politics in general, arguably something something female mc or black people. But all political discussion happens outside of the game. If there is some inside it, then I have never even heard of it.
Now.
Does it really matter that the mc is black or female or whatever? No. Like seriously anyone who got angry or called it political is genuinely a retarded idiot.
Is the writing fucking horrid? Yes.
Did people question who even fucking wanted a game like Forspoken(graphics, gameplay, story, artstyle, etc.?). Yes.
But, did some fucking retards make hating on Forspoken + idpol shit their whole personality and only thing they talked or referenced for every criticism of that AAA shitpile? Yes.

Anyone who sees the gameplay and writing would lose all interest in it. Like even negative interest, it's just corposlop AAA trash nobody should waste their limited time on this earth on thinking about. Look at the gif I posted. Just that five seconds was more worth of your time than any braincell using up its space on Forspoken. Yeah funny one line meme about moving things with her freaking mind etc. but like seriously.
It is so boring. Pointless. Maybe at best some average action slop but nothing special in any way. Square Enix is fucking trash these days anyway.

>>716413036 (OP)
How many of the games on the bottom tell you race mixing and faggotry are the best things in the world and anyone who doesnt believe that should be unpersoned if not outright murdered?

>>716413445
wrong

>>716413036 (OP)
Didn't you play Final Fantasy VII? At some point, Barret admits that the fight stopped being about the planet and turned itself into satisfying his bloodlust.

>>716413194
Drebin. Sigint

>>716414083
we're gonna touch you little buddy

>>716413036 (OP)
there's a difference between politics and identity politics
nobody liked hysterical soccer moms trying to ban thing then and nobody likes multicolored hair twitter fucks trying to ban things now

>>716413279
often wonder how many posts are just bots regurgitating the exact same images&threads

>>716413036 (OP)
>vague and neutral political allegories based on issues that pretty much all of humanity agrees on, are the same as current year identity politics, overt fag enabling, and a drive to vastly overrepresent women in roles and spaces they had minimal to zero presence in historically, and especially to overrepresent creatures of African descent.
Getting real tired of this disingenuous shit.

>>716413036 (OP)
It's not about games being political and you know it. I just don't want to see ugly brown women in my video games. I see plenty of them whenever I step outside.

>>716413036 (OP)
Nobody said Forspoken was political, everybody clowned on the Marvel adjacent terrible writing but nobody talked about it being political

>no one can debunk it

>>716413036 (OP)
Politics are when black people exist

>>716414104
That image is based and correct though.

I usually mark these threads as low quality, you?

>>716414209
You could argue that the themes of Forspoken are no more political than your average video game, but what stands out is the obvious fact that IRL new age western politics have driven many of the character and story writing designs. Some people may not be able to articulate that point when they simply say "its political", but they do still recognize it for what it is. No need to call out stupid people for not having better ways to describe why something sucks.

>politiks back then
>related to the game and its narrative at large
>politiks now
>I called my captain a her instead of they/them and had to do 20 pullups

>>716414834
No its when they account for 50% of something (crime and media representation) despite being only 13% of the population.

>>716415341
Name a game that does this.

>>716415419
dustborn

>>716415368
This is why I hate men.

>>716415419
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeJsPYXEEs
lmfao. pulling a barv

>>716415419
Didn't the new Dragon Age have that kind of thing too?
It's just tiring writing

>>716415419
Not sure if bait, but the new Dragon Age game did this and it got absolutely destroyed for it.

>>716415547
BARVE BOY

>>716415341
Imagine how jacked the average chud would be if that was a real thing

War and opressive governments > Characters bitching about genders and worshipping black people

>>716415781
erm no sorry chud you will do the pushups

>>716414757
>>716413036 (OP)

There are two problems.
1. Most people do not know how to articulate what they really mean, and so things get dumbed down, and thus easily misinterpreted.
2. What they actually mean to say, most of the time, is that they do not like being preached to. They do not like the condescending preachy attitude that tells people how they SHOULD think, how they SHOULD act, etc etc, instead of exploring the ways that people CAN act, how they CAN think. But again, this is hard for most people to articulate, and so it comes out as " i dont like politics"

You already knew this difference, you are just a disingenuous faggot.

>>716413036 (OP)
>>New game politics: let me tell you all about how I cut my dick off with a machete and now I'm a woman.
>>old game politics: this is all controlled dissent manufactured to distract the masses. The government is living to you you see back in the 1960's the US government tested chemical weapons on American citizens. They called it a "city defense smokescreen prototype" and assured apartments full of unsuspecting families the gas was harmless.

>>716413036 (OP)
There is something called the friend enemy distinction.
You are clearly on the enemy side.

>>716415526
Fair take. To account for that we incarceration men in far greater numbers. If "men" (of no particular race) stopped doing so much crime, they wouldnt be filling up prisons.

>>716413036 (OP)
Okay, time to fuck this shit up.
What you retards call "political" is actually internet content.
Internet language, internet memes, internet references, internet internet internet.
Internet content is SHIT
We created a retarded low tier language and jokes, and all they do when you put em in a game is to fucking ruin it.
No one outside your fucking tumblr know what the fuck a bipoc allaband shit is.
No one know what a based basedjack is, most people don't even know why all your base is funny.
You're not being quirky, you're not being "desconstructive", you're just fucking smearing shit over the game because you hate it.

>>716415526
Would you care to break those stats down any farther?
I know you won't as you are a follower of the religion of egalitarianism, in fact there is no real point in engaging with you.

>>716416504
a black man is still a man. the biological differences between a white man and woman are greater than a black man and a white man.

>>716413036 (OP)
>zoomies in charge of media literacy
very low quality thread

>>716416790
Yes. Your point being? I agree with that. Men are more prone to violence than women. I agree. Since we seem to agree on biological determinism, then we should also be able to conclude that a certain variety of men really pushes those numbers up.

>Fucking piss baby threads
Why do you fags act this way?

>>716413036 (OP)
>political back then
>bipartisan
>one world order
>nuclear annihilation
>unmitigated corporate consolidation

>political now
>corporate liberal propaganda
>you’re a racist
>you’re a sexist
>you’re a homophobe

>>716413036 (OP)

>>716413036 (OP)
>FF7
>political
what?

>>716416973
the thing is that while i agree there is a certain subset of men who are way more likely to commit violent crimes than others, I remain unconvinced by any evidence that those reasons are purely biological and cannot be explained due to cultural/socital reasons. If you take a look at black culture in the 70s for instance, it is very different than black culture in the 90s. I wonder what happened? oh, could it be that your president decided to get as many of them as possible hooked on crack cocaine? Man i wonder what effect that had on the crime rates...

>>716417270
>Environmentalism
>AVALANCHE and mako being an analogy for oil consumption polluting and destroying nature

>Capitalism
>corporate consolidation leading to a one world order being centralized around a global corporate nation state with little to no value for human life over profits and total dominion of the world
Not saying I agree with these political statements but it’s pretty obvious, anon.

Nice slide thread faggot
I WILL talk about collective shout.

>>716417725
well yeah but that's literally just the prologue, the actual plot has nothing to do with that shit

>>716417274
Is Zimbabwe doing better Rhodesia?
Is south africa better now than under white rule?
Is Haiti a Paradise?
Is Liberia just like the USA?
How about those black run cities in the USA? Are they doing well?

>>716416973
also, i would like to point out that you’re talking about biology as if crime rates are stable across time. But violent crime rates among all groups ,including young white men ,fluctuate dramatically across decades. That doesn’t happen if it’s genetic. It happens when the conditions around people change. We see this in countries all over the world, all different kinds of cultures. Crime rates are heavily influenced by culture and the conditions of the society.

>>716417836
see>>716417862

If you want to prove that this is actually a biological phenomena, i would love to see the actual evidence, and that evidence has to control specifically to exclude cultural and society reasons.

>>716413036 (OP)
There is a big difference between telling a story with politics in it and having a story where a political view is vomitted on you with no recourse.

>>716413036 (OP)
Good games automatically aren't woke
Develop better games and own the chuds

>>716418002
as a follow up, the difference in crime rates between men and women is roughly the same across cultures and societies, ask yourself why this isnt the case for race.

>>716413857
Bitch please, Barret is obviously just Mr. T. And that's ok, because Japs make actually based blacks, unlike Am*ricans, who just want to push their nigger worship.

>>716413036 (OP)
>Magic assisted parkour mechanic was cool
>Gameplay was fun and a number of the magic types were cool to play
>Absolutely ruined it with everything else

>>716413036 (OP)
Using politics as a theme is not the same as trying to comment on current day politics.

>>716413036 (OP)
Videogames have ALWAYS BEEN political chuddie!

Tetris? It's about commie blocs imploding!
Space Invaders? It's about alien immigration and protecting the border!
Pong? It's about the constant struggle between rightards and leftards!
Galaga? It's about colorful LGBTs doing gymnastics and gay shit to kill your guns!
Asteroids? It's about conquering space in the name of our lord and savior Elon Musk!
Pacman? It's about the ghosts of consumerism biting us in the ass!

>>716417836
50% of black people owned businesses before 1965 and the rate of single parenthood was like 10%. Welfare, crack, and gangster culture were intentionally pushed because the CIA was terrified at a unified black political movement

>>716415526
and what does this look like by race I'm curious now

>>716417274
>>716417862
I would concede that culture and maybe some intentional government sabotage didnt help them, but African nations are hardly Wakanda's on their own. Perhaps we can blame it on the fact that an underdeveloped people came into contact with a more developed people too early, but thats impossible to truly verify. And it's also not everyone else's fault. They should probably count themselves lucky they did connect with the outside world when they did, and not in a more barbaric and genocidal time period, or else they probably wouldnt even be here to bitch about how bad they think they have it.

>>716417862
>>716418002
>>716418126
Are those places better under black rule, or were they better under white rule?

>>716413036 (OP)
forespoken wasnt even political it was just horrid

>>716418718
if you look up the history of africa and how colonial powers fucked them over and created borders and tribal disputes and shit tons of other things you can hardly blame the state of the continent on the biology of africans. I mean lets just take a look at the Rwanda genocide for instance, do some research into it and you will find the reasons for why it happened are largely due to the way that the Dutch colonialists treated the two different ethnicities, treating one way more favorably than the other to the point where it created massive amounts of jealousy, anger, hatred, and it eventaully lead up to a horrible genocide. That is not to say that the Africans are not responsible for their own actions, but those actions and the state of their nations and cultures has been HIGHLY influenced by things outside of their biology. For a very long time.

>>716415526
clearly, you hate minorities

I'm playing Yakuza Like a Dragon and it is insanely way more political than I remember Yakuza ever being except for 3.

It's cute that leftroons try to act like there isn't a difference.
Or, hell, maybe they are genuinely retarded enough to believe there is no difference.
Which is it?

>>716418757
how is final fantasy 7, a game about a mega corp polluting and destroying the planet not divisive in this day and age? lots of people (mostly americans) think global warming is fake and that corpos can do no wrong
MGS's point is too schizophrenic for it to be divisive because everyone gets their own conclusion
deus ex is a game about globalism and libertarianism, that is divise as lots of people are mixed on that
fallout is an anti war game, again divisive as lots of people don't agree with the current order and see no way but war forward, but I guess you can argue everyone wants peace and it's not divisive
only played tactics advance so don't know what the PS version is about

>>716418798
you are trying to dumb down and simplify extremely complex issues into a false dichotomy . I know that you know that you are doing this. You know that you are doing this. You arent even trying to seperate cultures from biology, you only want to be intellectually dishonest. If you want to feel superior to other races then fine, do so, but remember that you personally have never done anything of note, you have no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of, and feeling proud for the accomplishments of others is just kind of pathetic desu. You had nothing to do with any of that. What you are doing is stolen valor.

>>716419115
The person who made that image will argue it was just made to make the world interesting and not meant to push any viewpoints

>>716413036 (OP)
This bait is as old as time.
How do you get so many replies with 10 year old bait? Is /v/ just full of that many bots?

>>716418886
Yeah, just like how they started selling off the slaves they made of conquered tribes. Perhaps if there was no foreign influence for another thousand years, then we would stumble upon them mining vibranium in their perfect utopia, because they weren't trying to meet the slave demand from foreign peoples. Or consider the possibility that they were all just dumb shitheads thay lacked the compassion and intelligence needed to keep a foreign existential threat at bay.

>>716419223
If only there was a way to test the biological differences between ethnicities that controlled for things like societal and cultural differences. But.. there couldnt be... could there? No... that would be impossible... unless...

I swear to god talking to you people is like trying to communicate with my severely disabled cousin.

>>716413036 (OP)
There’s a difference between a game that tackles political ideas and a game that serves only as propaganda to a modern political agenda.

>>716417836
>image
they literally look the same, one is just covering his face

>>716413036 (OP)
>>GROSS! WHEN DID GAMES GET SO POLITICAL?
Exhibit A, we have OP, who barely qualifies for being human at 65IQ.

>>716419442
someone's identity is not a political statement, with that said NU dragon age is dogshit still regardless of that

>>716419442
>is a modern game with complex political themes in your path

>>716419115
Even the most staunch rightoids dont actually want a mega corporation to abuse and poison the population. Of course the Shinra company is a bit more cartoonishly evil, indisputably killing the world, and not as complex and morally grey as its real life counter parts. FF7 is still general and vague enough for pretty much anyone to be able to get behind the message.

>>716414104
besides detroit become human with no hillary and call of duty that had reagan in it, I can't think of any game that did this
family guy is a comedy that makes fun of a lot of political issues and has been doing that since 1990s, besides not a game

>>716414757
It's simple anon
people are shorthanding and saying they don't like games full of identity politics: the most retarded debate ever formed.
It'd be like a game screaming at you the earth is flat.

>>716418867
huh? There was a black woman as the main character, how is that not political?

>>716419507
>someone's identity is not a political statement,
Everything is political chuddie.

>>716413989
there is literally no commentary in forespoken
I watched a full playthrough of it
it's just a retarded bitch with a shitty gaunlet fighting off an evil witch
it's boring

>>716419534
>Even the most staunch rightoids dont actually want a mega corporation to abuse and poison the population
sure, but the problem is that the most staunch rightoids, as you put them ,refuse to acknowledge when it is happening and often engage in cognitive dissonance.

>>716413036 (OP)
The games on the bottom didnt have any black women.

>>716419534
yes, but in the lens of american politics republicans always want to roll back enviromental protections while democrats want new regulations

>>716413036 (OP)
>the same old false equivalence
It's just bait at this point

>>716418168
It's a joke anon, obviously barret is black.

We had a good thing going for the last few hundred years where religion was religion and it was separate from everything else. Now the new progressive religion pretends to not be a religion and it's fucking everything up.

>>716419343
>vague allusions to his own point that hardly disputes anything
>ad hominem attacks
Im honestly not really sure what you are pushing for. At the end of the day all im saying is that African descendants are a pain in the ass to deal with even at their best, and I wish them the best, but that they would go seek their best life from the hands of the people that murdered, enslaved, and sold them to other nations in the first place. Damn my ancestors for being lazy fucks, and even relying on any slave labor ever.

yeah I hate trannies, ugly women and black people. I dont want to see them in my games. It was never about politics

>>716419978
bet you felt smart writing that

>>716413762
these three look nice