Thread 716430926

When do I get to play?

You don't. You sit in the chair in the corner and watch.

>>716430926 (OP)
I realize this is another /vt/ thread but there were numerous opportunities to attack there. Gura is just trash at video games.

>>716430926 (OP)
right................ NO-HA GOTCHA it's actually now

>>716430926 (OP)
The tranny could try attacking instead of wasting time spamming panic rolls.

>>716431087
>>716431287
I don't see the issue, enemy is distracted and her teammates are damaging the boss. Dodge tank is a viable tank.

are people still melting down over that one vtuber who's getting married?

>>716431523
Streamers getting married isn't the problem. Streamers that lie about not being in a relationship to bleed obsessive fans dry is the problem. Whether they come clean or not isn't relevant.

>>716430926 (OP)
T.dokibird

>>716431087
>trash at video games
she did better than 95% of all randoms I've ever seen in that clip

>>716431523
I simply cant imagine simping for a 3dpd whore. How do people subject themselves to this

>>716430926 (OP)
>less players than Elden Ring and it has been only 2 months
Lmao fuck FROMs D team and fuck this entire game as a concept. Roguelites suck ass. Literally nobody asked for this. They could have reused assets and just gave us a standard Elden Ring sequel utilizing the same reused shit and it would have been a better game. Team Based roguelite dogshit is just a bad concept.

>>716431717
You faggots are so embarrassing. The quintessential vtuber fan melting down when they discover some egirl streamer wasn't, in fact, their girlfriend.

>>716430926 (OP)
0:05 to 0:07
Being a ranged character could include 0:10 to 0:11 and 0:14 to 0:18 also 0:20 to 0:21 and 0:26 to 0:29
So 12 seconds out of this 29 seconds webm, of course if we're counting playing as only you attacking!

>>716431936
>she

>>716432172
>it's their fault for believing a lie
I hope somebody scams your family members for every cent they have. Maybe then you'll get a glimpse of the difference between right and wrong.

>>716432112
>foaming at the mouth
They made a lot of money from an asset flip. Stay mad.

>>716431087
i disagree with your assessment. from the clip alone she seems to be doing well at dodging, but also who cares if there was multiple opportunities to attack. the boss is aggro'd on her - the safer and more guaranteed win option is for one person to kite and the other two to damage the boss. I don't watch vtubers so maybe she is bad overall, but in this clip shes doing exactly what i'd do with my friend group if we were going for a guaranteed victory

>>716431443
Yeah but it keeps rolling out of sheer panic even when the boss isn't winding up an attack. Also it's playing Ironeye who has an ability that's like a dodge with a ton of extra iframes and it also does damage yet it doesn't use that.

>>716430926 (OP)
You have to be some special kind of subhuman ape to watch this and enjoy it

>>716430926 (OP)
Literally me when I play nightreign

>>716432481
subhuman ape board

>>716432315
>i disagree with your assessment. from the clip alone she seems to be doing well at dodging
Stopped reading there. She's mashing the dodge button every time she sees the enemy do anything. She's "doing well" by sheer coincidence.

>>716430926 (OP)
And this is exactly the very reason I think souls games are mediocre by design.
Just roll for over a minute straight and do a mediocrily animated attack in the 2 seconds it stops continuously attacking.

>>716432619
With how nightreign bosses can instantly turn around and attack you from 50 feet away, I don’t blame her for rolling every time the boss twitches

>>716432619
theres zero reason not to spam roll in nightreign or in elden ring and most of ds3. you have basically unlimited stamina and its a faster way of moving around. sure though, calling out a vtuber for bad gameplay makes you such an internet badass and gameplay is obviously the number 1 reason people watch them.

>>716432112
I consistently get matches within 10 seconds of queuing so I don't see the issue.

>>716431087
Gura is back as a cat?

>>716430926 (OP)
when you stop panic rolling the same attack 5 times thus having stamina to play

>>716433027
Gura is Saba yes. She's some kind of weird cat shark thing I don't know.

>>716432282
Most people are mad a bad game made them money. It's like seeing a low effort gacha print money. Of course it is going to make a lot of people mad. You are praising low effort dogshit that lost it's playerbase in the span of 2 months and you (You) want that to happen more instead of good games being made because you are a contrarian faggot that doesn't like good games.

>>716433095
>fallacy
Concession accepted. Far too easy.

>>716431058
t. Cuckling

>>716433086
How do people know it's her?

>>716433213
I hope that one day Nimi will let me suck her husbands cum out of her pussy.

jigglypuff

>>716433262
Anon...

>>716430926 (OP)
Thay clearly shows that one player is supposed to attract the boss atention while the others attack him.

>>716431523
>mfers made her rich so now she can retire
>announces she's getting married so she's most likely been getting dicked the whole time
She's literally using the money her fans gave her to run away with chad lmao

>>716433392
What? She sounds like any white girls putting on an anime voice

I miss Mumei.

Which vtuber would cause the biggest meltdown if she came out and said she was getting married.

>>716433492
Based
Total simp death

>>716433526
The only one with enough sense to quit properly.

>>716431523
Cucklings loved it though.

>>716433560
Nyanners

>>716433560
Toss up between whichever one has the biggest numbers or which one has been parasocial/GFE for the longest.

>>716433560
Henya

>>716432278
NTA, but before I read this post I agreed with the people that laugh with schadenfreud at the retarded simps. You changed my mind, but they are still pathetic

>>716432172
And gambling is not an addiction
And Men can't be manipulated
Agreed

>>716433737
They're definitely pathetic and if I saw them on the street I would sneer. But in a way they can't help themselves, just like a child is naive, a real retard is gullible, or an elderly person is easy to con, a desperately lonely man is vulnerable to a certain kind of manipulation. And because manipulating them in this manner is both legal and lucrative, the methods for doing so have been refined to be as effective as possible. These men end up destitute and probably kill themselves 3x more often than a normal man, who already kill themselves way more often than women.

>>716431717
>Streamers that lie about not being in a relationship
I don't know anything about her. Did she? And how long ago was it?

>>716431087
>Gura is just trash at video games.
She's good at rhythm games, and at manipulating pedophiles. Take it back.

>>716433980
This is true, vtubers will say
>I don't want to be parasocial, that's bad!
But the whole industry is built on that. People don't watch vtubers because they're entertaining, they're really not. It's because it's a anime girl, a waifu. Normgroids will try to pretend that's not the case but it is

>>716434095
She's been streaming using multiple models as far back as 4 years ago. According to a vtuber that has known her in person from that long ago, she's been in her relationship from the beginning but neglected to disclose it until recently.

>>716430926 (OP)
There were a ton of openings, even more with archer, wtf is wrong with soulsfags being so bad at the games

>>716432619
>do thing
>it works
WOW what a shit gamer

>>716432796
>>716432809
>>716434307
Holy fuck, you guys are ACTUALLY bad at video games

>>716434097
Ironic pedophiles maybe

Nighreign is ds2 basically.

>>716432727
You're a fucking coward, you freeze every time you see a boss do anything, boss telegraphs an attack for 10 seconds? let's not do anything inside those 10 seconds because I am... LE PREPARING!
this is why you guys should never be listened to when it comes to boss balance

>>716432315
That's the intended mechanic behind this boss too, the red circle on the character means the boss is single mindedly aggroing on you so your teamates can beat up on them.
Margit in particular always picks one person to fucking murder and as long as that person can stay alive it's free damage

>>716434386
You're awful upset about the utilization of safe tactics.

>>716430926 (OP)
The middle one is married with kids too lmao

>>716434851
Where did you leave your glasses, bro?

>>716434851
>>716435029
Nevermind, I misunderstood, you're saying the middle one is ALSO married, aside the one you posted that's next to her.

>>716434851
I'd believe it, would explain why Gura was barely streaming lmao
At least she could rely on her chumbuds to stay subbed as she was having another man's baby

>>716434386
>explains how its a valid strat with no punishment or incentive not to
NOOOOO YOU CANT PLAY IT THAT WAY BECAUSE REDDIT SAID YOU CANT! YOU DIDNT BEAT THE GAME!!!

k. its not like souls games are particularly hard anyways.

>>716434851
wait what the fuck, did i miss the meltdowns? how many suicides?

>>716434851
It was funny watching the /vt/ threads after the marriage news dropped until that guy livestreamed blowing his brains out in response

>>716435516
Nobody ever knows how bad it gets. The guys that are most affected are the least likely to broadcast it. They just leave and maybe they hang themselves later. Nobody in the community ever knows about it.

>>716435720
why "until"?

>don't presume the relationship status of a streamer
>entertain perverted fantasies, but don't expect to enter any sort of relationship with the streamer
>feel no betrayal whatsoever when they announce or reveal a relationship, continue perverted fantasies
Am I the robot here or what?

>>716435940
>continue perverted fantasies about a taken woman
You should be careful with shit like that, pal. Behavior like that can lead to dangerous situations.

>>716435940
>watch streamer
>jerk off to art of streamer
>never donate or buy merch of streamer
this is the way

>>716435756
the perfect grift... the perfect crime...

>>716435720
Wait when what happen!?

>>716435940
Well for a lot of people those fantasies are ruined once the facade is broken.
Once the illusion is shattered and they're reminded its just a 3dpd women behind the screen who's getting dicked right after most guys can't continue supporting them

>>716430926 (OP)
You’re supposed to shoot the boss with the bow but I guess this person’s retarded.

>>716434851
she would never spell couldnt like that

>>716436269
It's weird to think there's people who can only enjoy the company of a woman if they can convince themselves she's available.

>>716436269
Are you indian or something?

>>716436269
thats on them. im engaged to a vtuber and through her know quite a few of them including some corporate ones. 85%+ of them are in a relationship and usually living with their partner, are married, and a surprising number have kids. the audiences have no idea. its really sad how many people get really attached to these online personas. also you have essentially zero chance of ever dating a vtuber if you are a fan of vtubers. pretty much all of them are massively turned off by vtuber or streamer fans and the kinds of people who tend to get really involved in those circles.

>>716437323
You can say that, but fact is vtubing actually takes advantage of those people. Like idk, you cant really say
>Well it's your fault, just don't do that
When the industry is built off it. That's all I'm saying

>>716437638
Waitresses do the same thing to get tips
are restaurants immoral???????

>>716434549
Is this a bot or just lack any reading comprehension?

>>716430926 (OP)
OH MY GOD IS THAT A GIRL ON THE INTERNET? AND SHE'S PRETENDING TO BE INTERESTED IN THINGS I LIKE?

I'm watching Yuuhi now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMKAQG4Cs68

>>716437690
Tipping is immoral so yeah.

>>716437638
vtubing is just a subset of streaming. the industry is built of girls who want to stream for any number of reasons and prefer using anime girls. simps are a special problem that arent unique to vtubing. the top earning vtubers are all female but the top earning and most popular streamers are all males. the problem isnt the industry. the problem is men who would rather spend time creating parasocial relationships with people on their computer instead of making real friends and having real hobbies. streaming is really not good for these people though because unlike traditional celebraties they can somewhat interact with the online ones and get a false sense of friendship.

>>716435940
no, you have semi-normal brain functions

>>716437690
>Waitresses do the same thing to get tips
>are restaurants immoral???????
Yes, a waitress doing a good job and being nice to you to get a 5 dollar tip is the same as being a streamer that creates a long-term fantasy to prey on lonely men and get their paychecks every month in the form of memberships and merch, fucking retard.

>>716435940
Neuro-sama is the only worthwhile vtuber because she's the only one who can get away with mauling people and people would just laugh it off as a funny joke.

>>716437932
> the top earning vtubers are all female
are you sure about that?

>>716437690
Waitresses don't charge you a month's membership to watch their streams and interact with them in that time
>>716437932
You can't blame it on just the fans bro lmao. The reason they use anime girl models in the first place is because they WANT that shit. Its what makes money.
Crazy to me man, is there blame on the fans? Yeah, but there's also blame on the industry actively exploiting them.
No one would've watched Gura if she didn't have the anime avatar. But with it they know who they'll attract. So yeah, if the fans are shitty for liking vtubers then vtubers are just as shitty for actively providing the service for them

>>716438294
>Waitresses don't charge you a month's membership to watch their streams and interact with them in that time
Neither do streamers

>>716438212
Are "superchats" the only earnings they receive?

>>716438361
You're an idiot or just trolling. Vtubers constantly have member only streams lil bro

>>716438534
and 99% of their content is free to watch, lil bro

Is this the laugh at nimicucks thread?
https://files.catbox.moe/szn0jp.mp4

>>716438294
>The reason they use anime girl models in the first place is because they WANT that shit. Its what makes money.
not really. look at amoranth, pokimane, emichu and all the other female irl streamers that pull in tons of cash. look at the view counts of irl asmr youtubers vs virtual ones. being a female is what makes money when simps are involved. some think the anime girl aspect is the money maker but most of them like having the extra layers of security-anonymity and not wanting to have to deal with makeup and lighting every time they go live.

>no one would have watched gura if she didnt have the anime avatar
you know nothing about the industry. do you have any idea how many amazing character models are out there but also get zero views? people might initially click for the model but they stay for the content and the personality. gura would have been just as successful if she was an irl streamer and potentially even more so if she did cosplay streams.

>>716430926 (OP)
What the fuck is that shit in the corner

>>716435720
No way that fucking happened. Give me sauce.

>>716435720
If this actually happened, the video would be spammed here 24/7.

>>716438146
https://youtu.be/fu2sbJLP-uc

>>716438498
nah of course not but it's the only one that is visible, memberships, merchandise, sponsorships, ad revenue, etc go into their earnings too but it's pure speculation how much those make, either way though Kuzuha is definitely one of the top earning vtubers

>>716438498
depends on a lot of things. on platforms like twitch its generally donations and bits only. on youtube is superchats but you also get adshare revenue and certain payouts for total views based on your cpm. many who are on other platforms will also see some payshare from those. sponsorship can pay some but its not as prevalent on the livestream side of things unless its specifically a sponsored stream. any vtuber that has merch will see a decent share from that. if they're a corpo theres usually a revenue split from that so if you're talking about super chats and other donations the streamer usually only sees about 40-50% of those by the time youtube and the corporation have had their cut. theres also direct gifts through things like throne. some will also have patreon or whatever for more exclusive content and that can be a big money maker depending on your content.

>>716433492
What was she supposed to do? Run a lottery and marry a random donator? Streaming is a job where retards give you free money.

>>716438650
Gura would not have been as popular if she didn't larp as a anime girl lmao. All the porn and fanart she got played a big factor in her popularity too, and people don't draw for 3dpd streamers.
You can larp as a expert all you want but there's a reason hololive doesn't do shit like having a irl division. The appeal is anime girls, retarded nigga

>>716438650
Not that guy, but here's why I think they use a live2D avatar:
1. You can hide your identity, whether for privacy or because your appearance is less than ideal to extract money
2. You can manipulate men by using a format they trust (2D girls)
3. Tied into 2, you can exploit a culture that took decades to build by wearing its skin. Many/most of these girls aren't even connected to otaku stuff, it's just a tool that gets them money

>>716438951
mark wahlberg??

>>716432278
How the fuck is donating to a streamer the same thing as getting scammed? Do you honestly believe donating to a random bitch online gives you a chance to date her?

>>716438951
>2 hours of "work" just streaming, not even acting like a anime girl, just talking, MAYBE play a videogame
Damn these girls are over worked

>>716438498
No. The smaller you are as a streamer, the more donations and paid subscribers make up the majority of your revenue. When you're actually big, sponsorships and merch are king.

>>716433560
Neuro

>>716438951
love this hafu deadpan slut

>>716435940
You would be surprised how many desperate lonely men are out there.

>>716438658
It's the item selection, anon

>>716438875
I hope he finally gets Neuro dog working along with the controlled gun turret. There's a 100% chance she'd empty her magazine into him the second the safety goes off, and it'll be hilarious

>>716433492
>Streamers are obligated to fuck every donator
this is your brain on simp juice
if someone donated they're a cuck and deserve it

>>716438951
IT'S NOT FAIIIIRRRR

>>716439249
??? I didn't say that, I just think it's funny how these girls get rich doing this shit. It's funny in a fucked up way, streamers are cancer

>>716439129
BRO THE DEADLINES BRO I HAVE TO RECORD MYSELF GOING UWU SENPAI FOR AN HOUR I'LL NEVER RECOVERRRRRRRRR

>>716431717
What did you expect exactly? You thought Nimi wanted to spend her whole life alone over one stupid gig?

>>716438951
This was too tough for Gura? Seriously?

>>716439348
ironically hololive jp members really do have a difficult schedule, because the holojp members are forced to shit like voice training, dance training, music production, signings, and i think it was like, daily multiple hour meetings.

its to the extent that holojp members often get so sick they get hospitalized, like every year at least 2 have to go to the hospital.

>>716439457
Streaming is totally hard bro, it's MENTALLY draining becoming rich playing video games

>>716439030
im not larping because i actually know what goes on behind the scenes as again my soon to be wife's fulltime job is vtubing. if gura was an irl streamer she absolutely still would have been massive, just in a different way than her as 2d. the reason hololive doesnt have an irl division is thats not what they want to go for. thats like saying oh theres a reason your favorite burger joint doesnt serve pizza and that pizza will never be as popular as bugers. its just a different portion of the market.

>>716439067
there are some that get into it just for that but most were closeted nerds or did enjoy anime to an extent. most of them are just really introverted and were too shy or too scared to appear on camera and are worried about being recognized. id be lying though if i didnt say that a lot of them are fat irl though. not all of them but its like your normal gamer breakdown. some absolute units, a handful of twigs, and a bunch on the slightly overweight or chubby side.

>>716439489
>retard on 4chan trying to act like a expert
Who the fuck gets sick from working hard? Shut the fuck up retard, that's just shit they spew to manipulate the viewer base

>>716439521
fr fr on god

the cl*nker is the only good one left in en

>>716439406
She could've just... kept her mouth shut? Literally no one asked, but I think it was too much to expect from a woman.

>>716439605
>im not larping because i actually know what goes on behind the scenes as again my soon to be wife's fulltime job is vtubing
GIVE NIMI BACK YOU FAGGGOT

>>716432413
She doesn't really play souls games. She's only playing cuz she wants to spend time with her friends.

>>716439605
>My girlfriend is a doctor, I'm now a expert on this subject
Stfu idiot
>most are nerds
I don't believe this since 99% of vtubers are dogshit at video games

>>716439754
>She could've just... kept her mouth shut?
Why? It helps weed out all the crazies and incels from her community
I'm sure she and her fiance spend every night scrolling through /vt/ and twitter laughing at you all.

>>716433027
She’s a catfish

>>716433492
The funny thing is thats literally every vtuber some just hide it better than others. Like what reason do they have to be loyal to a bunch of simp cucks.

>>716439956
>It helps weed out all the crazies and incels from her community
Yeah, and now all that's ledt are normalfags and real actual cuckolds. How is that better?

>>716439956
>I'm sure she and her fiance spend every night scrolling through /vt/ and twitter laughing at you all.
all of them do this btw. Women are evil

>>716433492
Didn't this happen to pokemane or something where she rejected her discord mod because she already had a boyfriend?

>>716435940
You have to be underage your brain damaged to think the persona they put on is real.

>>716435940
>heard the news around the time when I was starting to get a bit fatigued of vtubers anyway
>not really mad or disappointed but just serves as assurance for me deciding to taper off vtubers
Not gonna quit them altogether, I just don’t care enough to fit their streams into my schedule. If Nimi streams Halo or Arma then I might watch the VOD later but otherwise I don’t really care anymore. And of course nobody ever wants to stream any of those games

Will they accept my friend request?

>>716440148
>Women are evil
>Let me watch and continue to simp for them
Why are chuds like this?

Are there retards watching vtubers who actually believe these girls are single? Because it should be pretty obvious they have a private life outside the streams, which includes having a relationship and all of that.

>>716439083
a lot of people do. the dms and propositions to come out to conventions or meetup with the implications of sex is both disturbing and hilarious. i used to think the being a girl on the internet thing was just a meme but then my girl started showing me her dms. its as disturbing as it is funny but it was a real eye opener. btw if you send creepy dms they 100% are being passed around and laughed at by multiple people.

>>716439249
very true. when my fiance had less viewers id donate to her just to get hype trains or whatever started. was really funny to see some of the private messages that came in from those knowing i fucked her before and after her stream.

>>716439876
very different. i actually had to help her a lot in the beginning stages. social media landscape is rough and its not as simple as haha turn on camera and play game. gotta keep up with trends, network, be present on social media, pursue sponsorships, do research and setup for merch, foster and interact with the community. like many jobs what you see from them is only like 20% and the rest of the stuff is background admin work. its really interesting everything that goes on behind the scenes.

>I don't believe this since 99% of vtubers are dogshit at video games
this is a woman thing and not a nerd thing. you can like something a lot and be dogshit at it. a lot of times the games they play arent the games they like to play. most of them really enjoy stuff that is pretty shit for streaming. remember that most hobbies for women are a lot more casual and its more about the social aspect. you will see a lot of women loving mmos and other stuff like that.

>>716439956
>Why?
Because she is a vtuber, the whole point of it is playing a character separate from yourself and enjoying the anonymity of it, why would she reveal anything about her personal life?
>It helps weed out all the crazies and incels from her community
Yes it was definitely a power play, but she does so after using them to grow her channel. That's called being twofaced. A snake, you might say.
>I'm sure she and her fiance spend every night scrolling through /vt/ and twitter laughing at you all.
Not me. I just find it funny that fags like you get so defensive over random women you've never met while accusing everyone of being parasocial incel losers. Women should be punished for being dishonest, actually.

>>716440293
not me. I simp for a chatbot. At least I cant get cucked

>>716440293
women eh? can't live with them, can't live without them

>>716440362
>Not me
Yeah, you're definitely not one of the seething losers she laughs at every night lmao

>>716440362
>why would she reveal anything about her personal life?
Because its based to milk simps and fuck chad in the end.

So, were her fans expecting her not to have a relationship with any man, or do they feel betrayed because she announced the marriage at all? Because there is no way in hell these girls aren't all in relationships.

>>716430926 (OP)
>Reusing the same exact boss AGAIN
How does (assets) FROM (my last) SOFTWARE keeps getting away with it

>>716439749
great taste

>>716434261
How is not saying anything a lie. You're the one who assumed "oh she's not mentioning whether she's in a relationship or not THAT MUST BE HER WAY OF SAYING SHE'S A PURE VIRGIN AND IS SAVING HERSELF FOR ME SPECIFICALLY"

>>716430926 (OP)
>>716430926 (OP)
>When do I get to play?
me asking that while middle sits on my face

>>716434261
Why did she need to disclose anything about her personal life? Hate to break it to you, buddy, but no vtuber is a virgin, and most of them are having sex on the regular.

>>716433492
Its just cause none of them are transparent about it to begin with.

Its very telling thats the vtubers with Fansly accounts are the ones blatantly saying "yeah i get fucked come watch me i guess".

>>716440595
this is a vtuber thread retard

>>716440542
The latter I think
Everyone knows these girls have relationships, but part of the fantasy they’re selling to the viewer is that they aren’t

>>716439754
She would’ve been found out one way or another. Might as well come clean. She’s a fucking person, anon, she’s not dedicate her entire life to staying single to appeal to retards. You’re like one of those retards that give Undertaker shit because he gave up the whole zombie cowboy with no personality shtick and started acting like his real self. At the end of the day, vtubing is just a job

>>716440624
immerhater my beloved

>>716439956
i dont know her personally but it would track. a lot of them will make moves to try to get rid of the more extreme people. fun fact is that collabing with male vtubers or streamers will lose you a lot of viewers and subscribers. some will intentionally do this every so often to thin the more potentially problematic members. with her whole 'we can be friends' thing a while back i could very easily see this as one of the reasons she made the announcement.

>>716439754
it seems like she very much wants to continue streaming. when you're that popular and wanting a family it can be really scary to try to figure out how to proceed. you have thousands of people that are obsessed with you and trying to keep kids and childcare from leaking or being noticed on your stream is a lot harder than you'd think and theres a ton of stuff that goes on in the background to try to keep it hidden. its much easier for her to make the announcement to drive away most of the people who would become stalkers or some other threat while also removing having to stress about last min schedule changes and all the extra soundproofing and stress that comes from trying to hide the fact that you have kids. like i mentioned earlier there is a surprising number of vtubers out there that have kids and it the lengths they go to make sure they arent heard on stream is nothing shy of extreme.

>>716440867
EN chuuba aren't worth acknowledging or discussing

>>716440830
Transparent about what? Why do you want to pry into their private lives? You are watching a character; the person outside the streams is someone completely different and they owe you no explanations for what they do.

>>716440830
nigga who cares you fucking pathetic cuck lmao

>>716440542
>>716440870
the expectation is that the girls are single and are saving themselves for the viewer. seriously many of these simps are completely unhinged and really far removed from reality

>>716440463
Nothing to say, eh?
>>716440508
And at least half of them will stay and defend her anyway. Maybe men deserve their suffering.

>>716441018
Must be something in Asian brains, since it's mostly a Japanese and SEA thing.

>>716440969
Because lack of transparency is what causes stupid shit in vtubing like Sinder's controversy.

>>716440508
why are men so hostile to each other? The world is already cruel as is why would you punch down on these who are at the very bottom?

>>716441136
>lack of transparency
Sinder's controversy was that she was a sociopath that burned too many bridges.
VShojo's collapse is lack of transparency.

>>716440624
>>716439749
>>716440884
the runt of EN

>>716441160
You clearly didnt have a father figure if you ended up simping

>>716441160
he says while foaming at the mouth over a person he doesn't even know getting married

>>716440876
>Might as well come clean
Coming clean with a secret solely because you're afraid of it leaking so you preempt the leak doesn't absolve you of being a duplicitous greedy Jew, anon. The facts of the matter are:
1. She didn't say shit after quitting Hololive becauae she wanted to cash out
2. Coming out with this news immediately would've eaten into her profits
3. If people were expecting the same content from Nimi like Fauna's, they're not only NOT going to get that moving forward, but they're getting less of it.
4. The reason it's upsetting isn't because people want her to stay single forever, but because it's fucking Jewish behavior to withhold information until it's inconvenient solely for the sake of making more money.

>>716440350
One should at least assume that someone social enough to host streams for hours at a time is not a hermit stuck in their room all day. A bit too much wishful thinking exploited by simple lies I suppose.

>>716430926 (OP)
Is saba just gura?

>>716441238
Im not simping I was just cursed to have empathy

>>716441263
different anon entirely. I dont even watch streamers

>>716436170
Like 2 days ago, it managed to even overshadow one of the biggest vtuber companies being exposed as a giant pyramid scheme where they didn't pay anyone for over a year, and all the talents publicly quit and it shutting down in 36 hours.

>>716441349
gura but cunny-ier

>>716441119
it stems from the cancerous idol culture. the reason vtubing seems particularly bad compared to irl streaming when it comes to that shit is that cover is the largest vtuber agency and is japanese. vtubing does share a lot of traits with the traditional idol scenes and there was a lot of fan overlap from the asian side. a ton of that shit carried over to the western side as well. again though its a problem with simps and simp culture. they were just doing it in asia and a lot more hardcore before your typical western nerd fell into the trap.

>>716441136
So you expect every vtuber to open their first stream with "Guys, I'm not in a relationship!"? And if they instead told you that they had a boyfriend you would refrain from donating to them?

>>716441445
this we need more /pol/ threads and twitter screencap threads

>>716441410
didn't she quit? she should fuck off, that annoys me

>>716441349
Can't be, Gura was 140cm, Saba is 150cm tall

>>716439864
>she
>her

>>716441465
The fact that you had to bring up shit threads like that proves you know /vt/ranny threads are garbage.

>>716440362
>Because she is a vtuber…
Yes, and she still is a vtuber. She’s not gonna talk about her personal life constantly. This was just a one time announcement because she felt that as a vtuber it is important for her to make that announcement. I bet you she’s never gonna bring him up ever again. Hell, we don’t even know anything about him other than that he’s marrying her.
>Yes it was definitely a power play…
What, did you want her to announce in her debut as Fauna “hey, guys, I’m Fauna, I’m eventually gonna get married to someone else but until then please keep supporting me lol”? She wanted to be a vtuber and, like most other healthy young women, she also wants to get married. I don’t understand how this is some sort of evil master plan she pulled on you all.
>Not me…
Calling an autist an autist is something that’s been going on in 4chan for decades, anon. If people sperg out over some woman they never had a chance with anyway, they’re gonna be called spergs. And, again, there’s nothing dishonest about what she did. Go ahead and stop supporting her if you want, but calling for this woman to be “punished” is just sperg behavior

>>716430926 (OP)
how do tendies feel about this outselling both their sainted slops combined?

>>716441518
They are, but I don't see you posting in any other blatantly off topic thread.

>>716430926 (OP)
Dodging the attacks and keeping boss' attention is playing games.

>>716441236
SOVL

>>716438951
ok now imagine after your morning shower that you go to work for 10 hours. oh wait i dont have to imagine that.

>>716441445
>>716441518
no one cares what you think :)

>>716441236
Less mouthbreathing simps like half the posters in this thread is a good thing

>>716441236
Not appealing to normalfag english speakers is the sign of a good vtuber. Means she's not cooing into their ear talking about her pussy queefs and asking for donos to Uber Eat deliveries

>>716433492
>She's literally using the money her fans gave her to run away with chad lmao
Nyanners did the same shit and people still defend her on /vt/ seriously just delete that board it's more harm than good

>>716441521
>She’s not gonna talk about her personal life constantly.
She literally said it'll come up at some point. Getting married, having a husband, pregnancy, kids, all of it. There is no distinction between Nimi and the person playing her anymore.

>>716441514
You are actually a 4chan npc

>>716441736
nah, we'd be better off range banning SEA monkeys

>>716440362
>the whole point of it is playing a character separate from yourself
They really don't do this, though. They're not pretending to be 800 year-old vampires or robots or anything else to match their avatar, they're just regular girls streaming. When vtubers were brand new this is what I thought it was going to be like, and boy was I disappointed. You know, stuff like a dog girl playing games and roleplaying chasing cars or doing other in-character stuff to match the avatar. Something to make it different from everything else.
Alas, nope. It's just streamer girls doing streamer girl stuff. The only character they're playing is the regular streamer girl thing of pretending to like stuff guys do and to tolerate the presence of nerds in exchange for money.

>>716430926 (OP)
You don't, you just watch other people play instead like a good cuck

>>716441783
they'll just use VPNs like the bongs have to do now

>>716441160
because life is inherently competition for men. you will always be compared to other men especially when women are involved. pathetic men will see vtubers and think they not only do they have a shot but if they support the vtuber they are owed affection and they will claim the girl. what they dont know is the girls are almost always already taken, getting fucked on the regular, and sometimes already have kids.

>>716439014
Honestly yeah that sounds like a much better and more moral option than manipulating retard simps for cash

>>716441908
Not all of them, it'll be enough of a barrier of entry to filter a lot, they're not intelligent

>>716441980
Using a vpn doesn't require any technical knowledge thoughbeit

>>716441231
She lied that she had a relationship with a man who was also her manager pinning all that maliciousness on him as if he was a stranger.

>>716441303
You know what? Fair enough. I can’t think of a good counterargument

>What a bitch, she should've been transparent from the beginning about her boyfriend.
So you wouldn't have donated to her if she did? So you don't really care about the entertainment factor and just want to simp?
>What a bitch, she shouldn't have told us she is getting married.
What's the problem exactly? Either way you already donated to her.

>>716441802
in their defense its hard to do. most of the ones that make it have to stream several hours a week. you can only play a character so much. when your job is social you can only isolate your real life stuff from it so much. eventually youre going to run out of things to talk about or you are going to have real life experiences that you want or need to bring up as well as real life bleeding into your work life. they 100% will generally not tell you everything but they almost always start as a generic character type and then it gets fused into a 20/80 mix of character/real personality.

imagine if your job was talking with people about random stuff all day while in a more casual hang out and chat type setting. if you were just a character the entire time without any real life sprinkled in it would be boring as hell for the viewer and hard as hell for you the streamer to keep up

>>716441946
Are you a commie by chance, cause you sound like one

>>716442195
Married women aren't funny.

>>716442261
he just wants the government to award him his state-mandated boyfriend free girl to end his love quest

I don't care about whatever the browns in here are crying about, I just want to announce that I desire to fuck this creature thank you for your time

>>716430926 (OP)
tummy AND toes on day one

>vtuber
you'd have to be retarded to find any attraction to them. the last few I talked to are just unlikeable fucking creatures.

>>716442354
cry more incel

>>716442298
So stop watching her. Some anons itt sound like she personally insulted them.

>>716442298
i can promise you that at least 1 of your top 5 vtubers is married. probably 2 of them.

>elden ring thread devolves into shit AGAIN
the brown menace strikes again

>>716430926 (OP)
Why do you need to attack? Nigga you're in a party.

>>716439636
>retard calling others retarded
Every time.

>>716442402
Ayo get to donating lil simp. Your vtuber needs some new shoes.

>>716442438
It was never meant to be an ER thread to begin with. OP wanted to gossip about vtumors.

>>716442096
More than they have though

>>716430926 (OP)
It still makes me laugh that you have to speed up the webm selectively to make it look really bad when Saba is just bad at the game.

>>716441919
but you are not competing? You already know these guys are total losers so its easy to shit on them.
I just think there is scum in this world that deserves hate and ronery faggots that live vicariously through streamers and have parasocial relationship with them are not it

>>716442626
They deserve scorn

>>716442201
Oh, I'm sure it would be, yeah. But.. that's why it would be interesting. Doing it once a week instead of 8 hours a day would be a better experience, but I guess you can't live off of it unless you get a shitload of fans.

>>716442626
you act like those kind of people aren't the scum of the earth who actively go out of their way to make things worse for everyone else

>>716442665
why? They are not hurting anybody. Do you hate the homeless too?

>>716442321
She removed the belly from one of her pre-stream graphics so i cannot support her

>>716442789
Yes, homeless people are all criminals and junkies.

>>716442789
>Do you hate the homeless too?
yes.

>>716431523
I missed /vt/'s meltdown over it, how bad was it?

>>716442782
they are scum of the earth for watching streamers? Damn I really do wish that was the extent of evil in this world

>>716442809
Never reply to me again brownoid

>>716442626
depends anon. simps are a huge problem and are directly responsible for the hoeflation we see today which is ruining society as a whole. the worst part is they do it to themselves. there comes a point where these people need to be shamed so they can get their shit together.

>>716442687
the hardest part is the beginning where you really have to marathon shit. it loosens a bit by the time you get established but even then the algorithm is a fickle and unkind mistress. if you slow down you can get buried pretty quick and the competition is insane. for every vtuber you watch or have heard of there are 500 more that never break out of the 3-5viewer range. in a lot of ways too being more open and adding in real life experiences makes you relatable to your audience. the only part of idol culture that is good is wanting to see and support the talent grow in skills and popularity. people want to watch real people improve and succeed. people will care about the girl they relate to becoming a better singer or becoming more popular where no one cares about virtual goku achieving another super saiyan transformation.

She makes more money playing video games in a day than men working legit jobs mining and building infrastructure

How the fuck did we get this clown world timeline.

>>716435940
Neuro is the best.
Love Neuro.
Hug Neuro.
I hate Evil

>>716435940
Post more Neuro
nOW

>>716443085
A guy putting arbitrary numbers in a spreadsheet makes more money than 95% of people that destroy their bodies to mine the minerals to make the PC that desk jockey uses.

>>716431523
It did explain why Kronii burned her bridges completely with Fauna.
Fauna was using Kronii to have an affair and to cheat on her boyfriend and didn't tell either her boyfriend or Kronii about it.

>>716430926 (OP)
the shit tier designed defensive options in modern souls games makes the combat by default worse than ff7 remakes combat which is the best combat system in the entire industry

>>716443301
kronii is busy fucking mumei every night bro

>>716443301
>>716443405
Grown men posted this.

>>716443072
the brownoid has a point though
>captcha 2TSTD

>wHeN dO i GeT tO pLaY
>webm is a vtrooner

You don't play games anyways so shut the fuck up

>>716443080
>simps are a huge problem and are directly responsible for the hoeflation we see today which is ruining society as a whole
not really. Simps are victims and simping is their vice they use to cope, like alcohol and drugs for some. The real reason why society is degenerating are contraceptives, abundance of entertainment and total security. We are living in a mice utopia

>>716441521
>This was just a one time announcement because she felt that as a vtuber it is important for her to make that announcement. I bet you she’s never gonna bring him up ever again
This makes no sense. If she is never gonna bring any of this up ever again, then why bother revealing it at all? She could've just kept her personal life private, and she would always have plausible deniability for anything, the fact that she even announced it means she will likely bring this up again later. She will do it when she announces she will leave for her marriage, take a break for the honeymoon, shit, maybe even a pregnancy announcement later on. Again, she never needed to bring any of this up.
>I don’t understand how this is some sort of evil master plan she pulled on you all.
She couldn't as a hololive member, but she could've announced as soon she debuted as Nimi. It would've been the actual honest thing to do. Don't you think that it's slimy that she just kept her mouth shut for so long until recently? Do you think vtubers have nothing to gain from having their relationship status be uncertain? If she didn't have anything to gain, and wanted to reveal it, why not reveal it right away? The very fact that her reasoning was "It would be unsustainable to hide it long-term" and not that she was hiding it at all doesn't corroborate with "I just wanted to be honest and I didn't gain anything from being dishonest"
>If people sperg out over some woman they never had a chance with anyway
This is just projection on your part. I don't care if vtubers have partners, I just don't want to know. I treat the vtuber as separate from the person behind it, the person behind it can do whatever the fuck they want, that was part of the appeal of vtubing as opposed to normal streaming. Also it is dishonest, bro. Vtubers have everything to gain from feeding the fantasy that they're attainable and relatable, whether they explicitly lean into the fantasy or not.

>>716443721
You're seething pretty hard and writing a lot of about something you don't care about.

>>716431523
Vtuber fandom is cuckery in its truest form. They give money to an anime avatar so the ugly/mid woman behind the vtumor mask can fly around the world, pay off her mortgage and settle down with chad, retiring before age 35 to have kids and be a rich housewife. Really if I had a daughter I would teach her to drain every red cent out of these subhuman fucks. You get what you deserve. pic unrelated

>>716443637
>contraceptives
What? The problem with Gen Z men is they can't have sex at all because they're either socially retarded or their politics turn off women which creates a death spiral of blaming women and ensuring they won't have sex. At least until they settle for a femboy.

>>716443843
Elegg drains me with paizuri marathons

>>716443867
zoomer men are not fucking. Zoomer women are sharing men. Its exactly like the mouse experiment

>>716443816
and you're retarded. I don't care about vtuber having partners, I care about dishonesty and the fact that this was revealed at all.

>>716441463
I believe most people would rather they start stream and NEVER say anything about being in a relationship at all.
I'm not there to listen to them talk about their boyfriends or husbands

>>716443637
no that is an escapist and apologist mentality. you dont tell the alcoholic that drinking is fine and that everyone should be okay with it because life got hard at some point. you dont normalize the behavior. simping is socially accepted and thats what allows it to proliferate. if we ostracized the behavior it would be less common. i hate that i have to be hypocritical about it as well. there are people that donate to my fiance people that call her their oshi and send her money and gifts. they have no idea shes getting dicked down regularly and her pussy will never be available to them. i benefit from simps and i still hate it from a moral standpoint.

>>716443867
>their politics turn off women
I find it rather ironic the right is going to die because they are going to go extinct cause their politics prevents them from sex

>>716443843
this

>>716443843
>>716444150
you really dont have room to talk against us when you pay for gacha :/

>>716442626
Regardless of what YOU do there is 3 billion chinks and poos that will simp for even the smallest crumb of pussy. You are simply out numbered

>>716443843
Based. I used to believe the whole "us men" bullshit until I realized most of these simp niggers deserve being exploited till their last cent.

>>716432413
Its like an abused wife flinching at your every move women just be like that

>>716444242
Rushia did nothing wrong

I like watching Okayu play DK64 and i like her slutty voice. Never donated either. As shrimple as that.

rollslop, frankly

>>716444137
I don't get this mentality, at all. Simps want to live a fantasy, then?
>I know she isn't a virgin and is having passionate sex with her boyfriend tonight, but I choose to believe she is a pure maiden who will fall for me if I donate enough money.
I get not being happy about this one vtuber announcing her marriage, but the general reaction seems to be one of pure disbelief at one of their favorite vtubers not being "transparent" from the beginning about something that should've been obvious.

>>716444445
I really like her slutty tummy. I didn't know she played DK64, thanks anon

>>716444169
I dont think shaming works. Especially online. I am of a firm belief that people are products of their environment, so If society is shit, shitting on the people is not going to change anything. If you want a change youd have to make the people struggle

>>716431214
>>716432103
Watching Gura will change your life.

The thing I hate about EN vtubers is that these faggots only want to be a vtuber in avatar and name
None of them actually want to commit to being the character they made up

>>716444643
neither do the japs
you just don't realize it because you don't speak japanese

>>716444643
>/vt/ranny thinks he has standards

>>716444585
shaming worked for centuries. yes there was a lot of closeted degeneracy but creating a negative stigma for undesirable characteristics is never a bad thing. we are currently in a unique social landscape where everyone is allowed and encouraged to do whatever the hell they want no matter how selfdestructive it is. people are a reflection of society but society is also a reflection of people

>>716444643
You mean when the stream is on, right? Because some retards here seem to think they should stick to the character offstream too.

>>716444643
JP streamers do play into the bit at least

>>716444643
Uhh... they're people, sweaty. They're not robots. You're asking too much of these grown ass women who have the easiest "job" in the world that expect you to give money to them. Stop being a misogynistic incel. They should be allowed to do whatever they want, they deserve the world

>>716444764
Giving every brainless retard and third worlder access to an echo chamber via the internet was the worst mistake humanity ever made

>>716444831
You give them money for the "entertainment" they provide. Anything else is on you.

>>716444749
so do you lurk this thread to spam your shitty nonsense insult or what

>>716444169
Women should just go back to being men's property. There's literally no benefit in them having rights. Women have too much social power when they're given rights and total freedom and it's clear most retards don't know how to handle it which causes these imbalances. Women go back into being property and simps plus incels vanish.

>>716444541
How do you not get that mentality?
Her boyfriend/husband has nothing to do with the stream.
Don't waste my time talking about them.

>>716445181
I'm not an incel so I don't start seething over a woman I've never met being in a relationship.

>>716445181
It's a simple tweet, how did it waste your time?

>>716445056
women only have that social power because simps give it to them. the only way to fight back is to shame them or look at all the money and gifts they are sending knowing they have no idea you are giving their oshi cream pies on the regular

>>716444278
I don't pay for gacha as gacha is just shitty porn for coombrain faggots who can't jerk off to free porn anymore.

>>716444764
hmm maybe you are right and I do have a defeatist mindset. Kind of hard not to with all the demoralization going on. Still, you are not going to change anyones mind so might as well be kinder

>>716444928
but then I wouldnt be able to talk to you faggots! That would be sad

>>716443843
/vt/rannies have no response to this other than whataboutism. They know you're right deep down.

>>716430926 (OP)
>"Guardian is a bad character because muh low DPS!"
>meanwhile, the high DPS character: ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL

>>716434851
lmao the western vtubing scene is a fucking joke

>>716445453
>so might as well be kinder
you have to consider the place. if someone is simping and i know them irl and can make a difference i will try to help them and uplift them before shaming them. that is a private setting though. in public settings shame is the best you can do and what you should be doing. this is not the type of behavior that should be normalized or accepted publicly.

saba

/vt/ is a paid-for board and it's janitors are industry plants

>>716445721
funny how that rrat was confirmed in vshojo's implosion lmao

>>716445694
true enough. I just personally consider 4chan a refuge of degenerates and losers so I never try to preach or moralize here because I dont see the point. Its like going to a rehab and talking shit to other attendees

>>716442626
Simps inflate the value of pussy and make the World worse for everyone, if I had one bullet, I'd shoot a simp before a lying whore.

The only vtuber I watch left her "corporation" after they tried to rape her online persona and had to get a lawyer involved to save it, and now she just does motorcycle trip vlogs across Japan.

>I have a bottlecap badge with marine and rushia on it from japan
>Think about how things go to shit so quickly in the span of a few years

>>716431523
I hope more people get burned by realizing their favorite streamers, vtuber or otherwise, aren't actually their friends. Zoomers need the wake up call to realize how fucking retarded they're being.

>>716433492
Jey Uso is terrible and can't do a spear worth a shit. He is one of the worst modern wrestlers.

>>716444278
>playing gacha games
cringe

>paying for gacha games
utter faggotry

>collecting literally GBs upon GBs of lewds and porn of gacha sluts, for free
Based.

>>716445937
you're in the cesspool with em lol

>>716446156
exactly. Thats why I see no point being hostile to anons

>>716446151
>play gacha then watch every other gamerslop on twitch
yep, based

>>716445964
>I'd sooner incarcerate a crack addict than the dealer
maybe it works

>>716446083
which?

>>716446105
My condolences. I hope Rushia wasn't your oshi.

>>716445964
I'd shoot the lying whore can kill the simp with my bare hands

>>716432112
truth

>>716445937
4chan has way too much influence on wider culture to act as if its an isolated sewer. The stupid attitudes that are allowed to grow here are eventually adopted by everyone in 5-10 years.

>>716441008
>>716440969
/vt/ website

>>716445721
I remember

>>716431087
>fromtranny can't even go 1 attosecond without jumping up to defend miyasloppi
lmfao, they're so pathetic how do they even continue existing

/vt/ needs to be name changed to /brown/ every fucking irl photo of someone from there is never white

>>716435516
/vt/ was so active that day that captcha on the site crashed various times.

>>716441480
She quit the corpo life because it was too restricting for the games she wanted to play.

>>716446936
she doesn't even play anything different
she's preparing for her fansly debut though

>>716446342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vgjeikt24M
She used to do the most basic vtuber stuff but once she got her character back and went independent she started doing her own thing.

>>716433639
How? She's been publicly in a relationship for like 2 years now.

For me it's Betty

>>716447185
Why are you gay?

>>716447262
He's funny and I'm not an insecure tranny that has a mental breakdown at the sight of a man like you are.

>>716447305
That's not true and you're still gay.

>>716438212
So proud of my sheep.

>>716432481
You have to be some special kind of subhuman ape to be angry at how someone else plays a game. Especially when you probably haven't played the game or do better than them. A lot of people can act like pros without showing proof of their skills.

>>716447812
Did you forget we're on /v/?

>>716441767
This would probably offend me if it wasn't coming from a /vt/ranny

>>716433591
What do you mean by properly?

>>716446682
its not as influential as it was, but it still does hold enough sway. those of us who have been here long enough remember the first time we saw memes posted in like 2008 show up on facebook and our parents laughing at them in like 2014.

>>716439749
I like all of Justice.

>>716441690
How dare you taunt me with a good time.

>>716431087
I don't think she used R2 a single time while playing ironeye nor did she ever mark. shit player. they're never going to play nr again anyway.

>>716431443
>>716431936
>>716432315
>>716446790
ops post is about not having opportunities to attack. even wylder could have gotten more hits in than she did. seethe jeets

>>716445704
ton

>>716448968
is overrated

>>716449038
ly good

>>716431717
Holy shit dude I feel really embarrassed for you

>>716448614
I think it may have actually become more influential because prior to the culture war shit the memes trickled out through osmosis but now you have giant e-celebs who literally just read 4chan or reddit threads full of 4chan users and vomit out the stupid shit they read here as if its their own opinions.

>>716431087
Marking gives I-frames so that could have been some extra damage but don't kid yourself, the only safe opening in that clip is the double blood flame slash. The gimmick is that margot holds aggro super hard so your teammates can shit on him very easily

>>716440542
The latter, the parasocial relationship idea, even outside of of e-girl shit, that twitch has perpetuated has been fucking awful and I've been saying this since day 1. Donating and subs should have never been a thing. Twitch literally should have been 2009 justin tv v2: stream for fun, no sweaty shit, no donating/subs, no hot tub sluts pretending to play, no v-tuber cancer

>>716444643
>None of them actually want to commit to being the character they made up
Somebody post that comic that was floating around recently

tummy on day 1?

>>716440542
The weird grey zone that makes all parties look bad is vtubers prey on lonely autistic losers then dump them when they are financially stable. They are all very careful to never talk about current or prior relationships, they never collaborate with men, they charge a subscription to access streams where they are more open with their feelings and private life and they do borderline shit like ASMR and role play audio tracks all of which hyper focus on and careful not to offend the crazy autistic fanbase looking for a fantasy. They do this because those guys are the pay pigs who spend the most money

The obvious unsaid truth is the streamers think these men are disgusting or if they are less judgemental pitiable but in almost all cases they want to wash their hands of them and have a more normal viewer base. The hypocrisy is when the streamer acts like they never wanted crazy fans when they were careful to court them when they needed their money. The autistic retards share the blame for simping for a jpeg in the first place.

>>716430926 (OP)
He was open like 5 times there. Learn to go in.

>>716441736
People only like Nyanners because she's racist anyway, you can't cancel someone who's popular for controversial shit

>>716443843
>I would teach her to drain every red cent out of these subhuman fucks
Taking advantage of suicidal autists is playing with the most dangerous kind of fire. Good parents teach their daughters to never get into situations with male strangers or acquaintances where they feel their are owed something. If a man who you dont want to date gives you a gift you reject it, these vtubers hoover it up like a vaccum and from the most hobo degenerate men on the planet, they then have nightmares about their identity being revealed because they know the men who are funding them are dangerous obsessives who would break into their house at the drop of a hat.

>>716453719
>If a man who you dont want to date gives you a gift you reject it
this doesnt work in india tho

>>716453920
Good thing nobody involved is Indian or gives a shit about India.

>>716430926 (OP)
For me, it's Ninomae Ina'nis

>people ITT actually defending themselves getting tricked by 3D anime characters
>They think they are not 100% to blame

If you think you are not to blame you should give up control of your life to a mental care institution, sub 80 IQ retards shouldn't be allowed to make decisions for themselves

>>716431717
man......

just fucking lol.

>>716451361
>he only safe opening in that clip is the double blood flame slash
You can walk left on the throwing daggers to dodge them at the distance the video starts from.
As Ironeye that's an opening.
The startup of the next attack around 7 seconds in is always slow an delayed that's a safe opening.
Then its the double flameslash.
At 0:13 that's an opening, given they during the wind up manage to complete a roll and almost finish a second roll.
At 0:16 that's an opening, that wind up always takes a few seconds to come out.
AT 0:19 that's an opening after the attacks
At 0:26 that's an opening the recovery on the hammer attack is long enough for a fully charged attack to hit.

This is all while also ignoring the fact that several of the attack section like from 0:22 to 0:25 can be safely attacked if they stayed out of range to shoot instead or rolling back into range.

>>716431058
like the cuck you are

>>716455198
WAH

>>716432221
share with the class faggot, you got nothing. sit down.

>>716430926 (OP)
I don't understand how people can enjoy playing this game with random trios. Almost have of the bosses health gone and the boss still hasn't targeted the people that did all that damage. If the Ironeye wasn't a complete retard the boss would have possibly even died or came close to dying.
Killing a boss without it getting agro on you once, how the fuck is that fun for anyone?

>>716455669
vtubers are the female equivalent of a yahoo boy, the targets are completely retarded but the manipulator is also cancerous. Its perfectly valid to hate both and to think both deserve whatever bad consequences result from their actions.

>>716435516
nobody, NOBODY with a brain wants to marry a vegan (unless you're vegan yourself). i don't care how amazing she is, it's not worth it. you have to fret over everything food related - from onions milk to dressing and toppings - and the fake tofu shit is crazy expensive. also, you will always be 2nd in priority to her cats and other pets. she WILL take her dumb cat to the vet if something goes wrong and you WILL pay $10,000+ to try to get it fixed up.
naplings, she's a great streamer, but not marriage material.

>>716436115
>don't watch streamer
>jerk off to the random doujin that pops up once in a while
>never donate or buy merch because again, don't watch streamer
this is the way

>>716457781
>manipulation is when a woman exists
Fauna/Mimi never pretended to be your gf, bro. Your delusion is on you alone.

>>716458231
you'll have an argument when vtubers are open about their relationships from the beginning, collaborate with men like normal streamers and completely reject all the other retarded parts of idol culture like paid meet and greets, secret paid streams, role play asmr and all the other pay pig factory shit.

These aren't merely women existing its cancer idol culture which is explicitly about preying on autistic retards.

>>716458714
My god, you're still seething over this?
You're even more pathetic than I thought.

>>716430926 (OP)
play guardian, duh

>>716458789
If you want to bait someone who gives a shit you're on the wrong forum.

>>716430926 (OP)
Why are you watching some random guy’s wife behind a live2D avatar, playing a bad game badly?

What vtuber has the cutest feet? They do post their toes right?

all vtuber women are fucking their own secret chad on the side

All except for one.

Saba is SUCH a fucking downgrade compared to Gura, it's ridiculous

>>716459431
>All except for one.
>he doesn't know

>>716459576
I actually don't wtf...

>>716459431
and that one?
scarle yonagooner

>>716459431
That secret chad?
Me.

What's with the vtuber spam?

>>716447041
Wasn't that the one who changed the girl behind her avatar? At least that was what people in vtuber thread on /jp/ were saying.

>>716431717
you are pathetic

>>716459687
Need to plap that torta

>>716462059
This just reminded me that Akihito went from liking some random niji to having Fubuki as an oshi.

>>716443843
>pic unrelated
it's not really that unrelated

>>716463168
>Akihito went from liking some random niji to having Fubuki as an oshi.
care to try that again in english?

>>716433492
this is a doujin already lol
you know who drew it

>>716463224
The creator of made in abyss went from having someone in the vtuber corporation known as 'nijisanji' as their favorite vtuber, to having fubuki from hololive as their favorite vtuber.

>>716444445
Just checked out her Young Girl A cover. you weren't kidding about her voice, she's sexy

>>716463224
Creator of Made in Abyss (Akihito Tsukushi) is now a fan of Hololive's Fubuki.

>>716459515
You're insane.
https://files.catbox.moe/lj5nw1.mp4

>>716431087
>Gura
I'm not super into vtubers or whatever
but what's the point in retiring and picking up a new identity to start fresh with?
to dump her old company and go solo or start somewhere less shit?

>>716463425
Disputes with the management

>>716463425
Hololive is unique in that they're not really a streamer group but an idol group. What this boils down to is they do a fuckload of concerts and promotion instead of streaming, meaning they have to be in Japan for most of the year.
"Disputes with management" for hololive almost always refers to two possible things:
>They don't want to be in Japan for 7 months of the year doing five concerts and innumerable skits
>They don't want to be a spokesperson for random sponsors like how Gura was officially sponsored by Taco Bell to shill fries

>>716463441
it sounds like management at all these vtuber places fucking suck
like all I hear about is "biggest vtuber ever quits"
but management at any job sucks so I shouldn't be surprised

>>716431717
>lie
Nobody asked if she had a husband until she herself said so

>>716431717
She wasn't pretending to be single. Most westoids never did that

>>716440362
>the whole point of it is playing a character separate from yourself
This is a purely Holo thing and even then some Holos talk about their daily lives like normal.

>>716463425
its not complicated, you always make more money as a popular independent streamer than as a wage slave.

>>716463425
Because she owns nothing she does or makes. Yes, why give up a nearly 5 million sub YouTube account with 4 years of content and just leave it dormant forever? That is an insane thing and any sane person would rather continue owning that than give it up. But there's probably no way to ever legally transfer any of that to her, ever. She wants to do something she owns and can last longer term.

>>716431717
Maybe they hide it because people like you and certain others in vtubing circles are kinda weird about it ? What goes on behind the curtains is none of your business really.

>>716463340
I'm talking design-wise.
Saba's design just "tries too hard"

>>716463725
I'm sorry, I see "Gura's design was better" hanger-ons as some form of Stockholm syndrome. It really wasn't a good design in the first place.

>>716440064
I don't see it.

>>716463823
I've seen it criticized as being over animated but I think it's just because people were used to gura being barely a step up from a static png.

>>716463565
She came from an era Hololive (2020-2023) where the management were extremely incompetent and borderline malicious. The company has since reversed course and taken much better care of the talents but back then it was REALLY bad.

>>716463691
that's fair
>comic I was reading online is on a 2 year hiatus because that's how long it would take to break contract and get to own their shit again
It sucks when creatives don't get to hold onto what they've made
check out Jupiter Men. superhero comic about cute slime boy and his bunny suit twin sister fighting crime

>>716463823
Gura's design was incredibly sexy without feeling forced

>>716463823
The new design is cringe, I cant look at it without feeling like im watching content made for either a 6 year old or a 60 year old pedo. gura was just neutral.

>>716441802
this reminds me. i once heard of a male vtuber who i guess had some sort of knight character and when he played horror games he would challenge the monsters to a duel. wish i could see a clip of that

>>716464128
>feeling like im watching content made for either a 6 year old or a 60 year old pedo
one of these is the correct answer

>>716444643
TRVKE
kayfabe is gay and lame as hell

>>716463937
>gura being barely a step up from a static png
fun fact: that aesthetic is actually enforced by Hololive management, and is also one of the reasons why some Holo streamers quit to pursue actual upgrades to their setups.

>>716444643
This is true but also not a thing exclusive to EN vtubers.
It's just that anybody who's a streamer by trade has to talk for hours every day and they eventually run out of things to say.
If a vtuber just focuses on skits (as in they only do videos) it's exponentially easier

>>716463823
They are legit retarded, not only is the new design much cuter and sexier but like a thousand times better animated

>>716464272
>and is also one of the reasons why some Holo streamers quit
Anon nobody is quitting Hololive for that reason I assure you. That'd be like quitting a six-figure job to start up your own service because they make you wear cargo shorts.

>>716437932
>it's not the industry that has these women act like a cute and virgin anime girl with large tits making exclusive payable NSFW ASMR content! It's the guy who buys it!
both are at fault to varying degrees, one for demanding and the other for selling the product, the difference is the former is a man so depressed he can't think straight and the latter is a fucking corporation/whore who sees him as a dollar.

>>716464224
whatever it is its trying so hard to be cute it wraps round and becomes kind of repulsive, its a weird feeling that I almost never get from Japanese artists, even if its moeshit, its something I almost exclusively feel from bad western anime.

>>716464509
Not him but I wouldn't even say the industry is at fault, but Hololive specifically.
Prior to Hololive's popularity, there was Nijisanji. Nijisanji promoted the 'digital "streamer"' part and the male vtubers were more popular. Then Hololive arrived as an "Idol Agency" promoting "Japanese Digital Idols" and were 2nd place literally until Hololive Myth debuted, skyrocketing Hololive's popularity. Now instead of "digital streamers", it's "digital idols", supported by the fact that Hololive even made a gimmick branch called "Hololive Gamers" where they'd focus on streaming and playing games.
With Hololive and its Japanese Idol culture at its base, it grew exponentially and warped vtubing as a whole because nobody could keep up to compete, so they began to copy.

>Company will not give you resources to have solo concert or other projects
>However they will still take half of whatever you make from that regardless
>Have to put up with managers that are actively sabotaging you in many cases
I honestly don't understand why would anyone stay once you have enough money and a fanbase to do your own thing independently.
I understand people who do music probably have to stay because of how archaic music contracts operate, but why would someone like Pekora still stay at this point?
Is it just a Japanese thing where they enjoy being exploited by companies?

>>716464440
have you ever tried being someone with creative pursuits, working for a company that still complies with dogshit archaic rulesets, just for the sake of following a "tradition"? no? then shut the fuck up

I have given vtubers roughly a grand total of $85. I superchatted Nekoboshi Mint three times because she played the Halo games, I superchatted Miko Sakura once to ask her to play the Halo games, and I membered IRyS for one month because I was high

>>716464869
Then that's not quitting because of their model you retard. They're leaving because of other rules.

>>716430926 (OP)
you can play after nimis husband

>>716446083
Based Azulim enjoyer

>>716464909
Some of the hololive members themselves tell people not to send in superchats because they give NOTHING in return beyond some momentary recognition. Memberships are fine if you really like their content, but don't do that to yourself anon. The girls get a salary they don't need SCs and they hate that Youtube gets a cut.

>>716464743
explains why I always thought the nijisanji JP side had better streamers and why all the best vtubers in hololive are from the gamers branch or feel like they should have been in the gamers branch like the pekora who is another gamer animal in a generation of fantasy characters

>>716430926 (OP)
>mfw the nurse one announced her engagement and her fans still donate
vtuber fans are cucks

>>716465110
There's an unnerving amount of vtuber fans who watch and desperately want to counter "idol culture" to the point where they'd support something like this because it runs counter. It's fucking weird.

>>716459431
>All except for one.
Yeah, the AI one.

>>716431523
They think that they are in a relationship with that streamer and that the streamer is cheating on them. Like unironically without exaggeration.

>>716430926 (OP)
See that red circle on you? That means you are the target of his special enraged combo. You are supposed to avoid it. You can play once the circle is gone.

>>716435720
>until that guy livestreamed blowing his brains out in response
citation needed

>>716432481
Yeah, Mr. Anonymous. Can you imagine not using your real name and face on the internet? Disgusting.

>>716465180
the duality of simp

>>716435940
Unicorns like to pretend that they are the majority, but they are just very loud. So don't expect too much credit for not being a schizo.

>>716465180
It is kind of dumb but also understandable in a way, they want to distance themselves from retards.

Its not shocking that retards thought they had a chance with their favorite streamer and that they were being "led on" by her not saying she was in a relationship earlier, but it is very embarassing that so many of these people are here on 4chan. Get a fucking grip. We were supposed to be better than redditor simps who throw money at streamer whores, and yet there are dozens of threads melting down about it. You're a delusional, embarrassing waste of space

>>716439129
Streaming is hard work. People go insane doing it all the time.

>>716463947
Despite their many mistakes, Hololive is still the most competent and least abusive company in the industry. Its primary competitors, Nijisanji and Vshojo, have outed themselves as cartoonishly evil, vantablack companies.

The former is vtubing as a business taken to its most soul-crushing extreme and has no shortage of horror stories from former talents. Mean girls cliques backed by management favoritism that harass others into submission. Repeated cover ups of sexual harassment. Extremely jewish revenue cuts as low as 2% for merch for talents. It also boasts a massive turnover rate, mitigated only by the sheer quantity of talents they hire and put through the meat grinder.

The latter is what happens when you take the people who run Twitch and put them in charge of a company without the support of infinite money from Bezos. It turns out that their business model makes no sense and makes no money. Just a few days ago they shut down overnight and all their former talents and anyone who has ever interacted with them has taken to Twitter to post their allegations, way too many to fit in this post. The most infamous being that they were petty enough to shill and shit talk competition on /vt/ directly and likely had someone in staff to support them.

>>716439636
You have never worked a single day in your life.

>>716464751
The question should be, why would someone do a “”"solo project"”” in the first place, lol

Hagtubers don't pretend to be virgins.
Take the hagpill.

>>716465429
Who are you quoting?

>>716441236
>muh subs
What to the real numbers say?

>>716465437
/vt/ posters make redditors look reasonable and levelheaded

>>716441349
>>716441480
>>716447015
Why are you mad? You have clearly no idea what's going on.

>>716432481
Well, a good majority of people that enjoy this are Indians and autistic white kids.

>>716465490
oh its this kind of post that pretends coco, rushia, mel, and hitomi chris etc never existed

>>716465536
Its fun, makes money

fellow saplings... are we ok?

>>716465652
Hitomi Chris literally never did.
As in she never debuted.
And you're missing someone who did debut

modern vtubers are soulless

>>716465536
A lot of vtubers join corpos for their support. Song covers generally are all solo projects, as are things that require 3D.

>>716465180
Because they arent gay or a simp and dont care about the shitty idol music, concerts, GFE or any fantasies people like you are looking to maintain. Nijisanji JP before it started copying hololive is much closer to what vtubing should be which is just very strange people making entertaining streams.

>>716465740
Wow, anon. You are so cool and cynical. Just look at the results of your incredible intelligence: You're miserable and mad.
Very smart.

>>716465605
That entire board is such a fucking mistake. Moot was always right, giving 4chan a board where they can endlessly gossip about e-celebs all day is a horrible idea

>>716438146
is he/she some sort of a prompt talking?
such a robotic voice

>>716446151
made for BWC

>>716465772
>Because they arent gay or a simp
They are quite literally donating BECAUSE a vtuber has a boyfriend. That's both gay and being a simp.

>>716458037
Most vegans wind up quitting their diet any way

>>716465652
Didn't they wipe out a Chinese branch because of the harassment Coco was getting from insane Chinese fans?

EN5 will be more Mori fangirls. EN is shit.

>>716465810
grrrrr

Today I will remind them that non-corpo chuubas with managers are basically all in relationships with them. It is their boyfriend/husband helping out because he wants to be a kept man

>>716432221
Trannies live rent free in this anon's head.

>>716465931
No shit. And if the manager isn't her boyfriend, he's trying to fuck her regardless.

>>716465820
>such a robotic voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msm_Vasv0kA

>>716465815
It was a mistake solely because the entire purpose of the board was for its Rule 1 and to house the Hololive Global board (which workshopped the rule together with a mod). Prior to the board's creation, Global specifically asked for /vt/ to be general-only because they were worried about this exact thing, but sharkmeido wasn't certain about vtubers being popular enough to keep the board alive.
It's ironic that the purpose of the board is gone now and that it became exactly what Global feared.

>>716465879
Deadbeats and Takos are an inevitability because both inspired dramatically different groups of women.

>>716465978
Nah, if he's close enough to be the manager, he IS fucking her. Not just trying to.

>>716465652
>Coco
Very regrettable situation, Cover's biggest mistake here is incompetently managing the situation and not being able to protect their talents, especially Coco. It was a geopolitical nightmare and they didn't cause it but they fucked up and let their talents get harassed for months.
>Rushia
This was 100% all on Rushia. Don't tell me you're one of those retards who thinks she was fired because she had a husband. She fucking leaked confidential information about her co-workers to Japanese Keemstar and Cover literally supported her at first but only fired her because of her leaking breaching contract.
>Hitomi Chris
Never debuted, was rightfully let go for literally scamming someone out of streaming equipment.
>Mel
If you're talking about the situation where she was getting stalked by a manager and Cover dragged their heels dealing with it, that was 100% on Cover and they deserve shit for it. If you're talking about her termination, she completely accepted it and didn't even try to contest it.

I'm not denying Cover has made severe mistakes before. But compared to its competition? You better believe they're the best option.

>>716466194
the best option is to not being a vtuber lmao
also that shit company already lost so many streamers because it's so shit

>>716465815
its a containment board. They would all be here if not for /vt/

>>716466384
I don't think you know what a containment board is anon

>>716465931
>corpocuck vtumor thinks his whore is any better than other whores
lole

>>716464103
>bare legs
>bare feet
>not forced
HAHAHA LMAO

>>716466502
That's fanart you retard. She wore shoes in her default outfit.

>>716466474
Not him but a common complaint you'd hear from corpo vtubers is the complete LACK of communication. In fact that was a massive point in the implosion of VShojo.

>>716431087
Yeah she could have at least used the mark dash thing

>>716466384
It fails at a containment board because it attracts a ton of newfags. /vt/ is a newfag magnet the likes we have never seen since 2016 /pol/. It actively brings more and more retards to the site

>>716466620
It was never meant to be a containment board in the first place. I don't actually know where someone got that idea when you can see the discussions for its creation in the archives.
That and also vtuber generals being on like, four other boards besides /vt/ too.

>>716466047
Grim, easily the worst EN vtubers in Holo and worst fanbases.
At least we got Nerissa from KFP and Fauna from Chumbuds.

>>716466474
I'm separating them out because from my understanding of the corpo structure a lot of them are assigned managers who maybe don't even live in the same country as them. I would assume they still have their own boyfriends or whatever. An indie with a manager presumably knows and trusts that person (is fucking them)

>>716458037
THIS
AVOID VEGANS
>mom is a vegan. making life difficult FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY because she has to eat different menu

>>716466690
Hololive specifically requires all management to be living in Japan.

>>716465750
>>716465685
So basically:
>They can satisfy their narcissistic urge
>they get more money anyway
Well, I guess it answers this guy's >>716464751 question

>>716466365
>the best option is to not being a vtuber lmao
Why? Many of these girls are millionaires now and other than maybe being decent at singing, they have no skill or talent to earn that in a "real job"

>>716439489
>holojp members often get so sick they get hospitalized
lol no they were fooling around with chads irl WITH YOUR MONEY HAHAHAHAHA

>>716466748
Depends on if you believe content creation is a narcissistic endeavor.

EN vtubers get worse and worse everytime I look back.

>>716430926 (OP)
Another stealth Gura saba vtuber Elden ring thread

>>716465572
Anon you're expecting too much from an Andy and Leyley faggot. Its best to ignore em.

>>716464751
I do it indie just for the freedom honestly. I hear Cover's policies on streaming games are a pain to work around. It's nice being able to just do a weird stream if I want, too.

>>716465534
Faggot, I did 60-70 hours a week for a year straight. Not one sick day. Earned a tonne of money. But that entire year is like a blur in my memory, I did very little but work and sleep, shit life.

They just lie to their dumb fans and go on a date, holiday, whatever.

>EN is now just Calli and her nepo hires
Legit sad

>>716466904
It's annoying but you also get five figure checks and access to tons of resources. Though Cover is retarded and expanded too quickly (spent millions on making one of the largest 3D studios in Japan they can't even properly man, resulting in hiring college freshmen in desperation). It's a matter of what you want to do since joining Hololive will give you money and fame at the cost of only being a half-streamer since you'll need to do a minimum of two concerts a year, or to be a comfy streamer that doesn't make money but can at least stream whenever you want.

>>716467048
>Ina gets a nepo hire in
>They gas out instantly and fuck off
At least the Calli nepo hires actually work.

>>716435940
Clearly, jerking off to Neuro-sama is the only correct choice.

>>716467098
They need to shut down Holoearth, that shit is such a flop and money drain.

>>716467098
Yeah, I'd imagine the money's pretty nice and I guess if you want to play into the "being an idol" fantasy with all the stuff that entails, they're probably the best route to go. Mandatory concerts and collabs and travel sound like a pain but if I got an offer I'd probably still do it just so I could afford to quit my real job.

>>716439956
>Nimi could be in this very thread
>Nimi could be any of the posts here
very spooky

>>716464354
she could have just kept the tail and dumped the cat ears, that feels forced

>>716434851

>Chad even gets to fuck anime avatar streamers in front of their fans and they get to pay her to do that.
Amazing, I knew since that Kizuna AI vtuber or whatever the fuck her name was, was being shilled on here shit like this would happen.

>>716442321
we need more saba lewds
most of the posts are AI which give her massive tits
I NEED CUNNY

>>716467179
By this point I unironically believe HoloEarth is kept solely to jingle in front of investors.

>>716467336
But she is supposed to be a Vaporeon, that's the joke...

>>716463340
>Vshoujo rigging
Every fucking time with western indies.

>>716467709
I would rather have this than the horrendous rigging of her original model.
>b-b-but muh sovlful rhombus
It looked like shit in motion.

>>716467829
It's weird how outdated the rigging is on some of the biggest streamers in the world. Marine, Pekora, Miko,etc.

>>716466810
If you get paid the same for doing less, why bother doing more? And it's common for some people once they get the mic, they don’t want to give it up, they just keep making noise with it

>>716467941
>If you get paid the same for doing less
You absolutely don't get paid the same though. Maybe that's the confusion.

>>716464909
thanks for the halo mention i love watching vtubers play halo

>>716464909
>Nekoboshi Mint playing halo
Thanks. I'll watch her later.

>>716470682
You can probably go to holodex.net and just search for "halo" to see who played it. It searches like 3500 vtubers.

>>716464909
Only money I've ever spent on a vtuber was paying for Nerissa's music, but I've been doing that since she was still mom0ki