Thread 716449275

It's over sonybros

>>716449275 (OP)
>more money and more sales is le bad
this is your brain on 24/7 internet culture wars

They're banking on that Horizon pseudo-MMO service game to be a big deal so expect it on everything

>Bloodborne will be on Switch before Steam
LOL

>>716449354
How did that work out for Xbox?

>>716449275 (OP)
they will give up soon just like Xbox

>>716449436
Actually pretty well. Forza Horizon 5 outsold Astrobot on PlayStation 5

x box

NOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK MORE PEOPLE GET TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES I LIKE!!!!!!! THIS HURTS ME, THE RANDOM PLEB WITH NO REAL STAKE IN ANY COMPANY!!!!!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>716449436
>>716449463
https://www.gameshub.com/news/news/xboxs-multi-platform-strategy-is-paying-off-analyst-says-2737984/
go be stupid inbred niggers somewhere else, multiplat on xbox part is the only redeeming shit they've done money wise

>>716449275 (OP)
them releasing horizon to show that nobody will buy it outside of a console bundle could be fun to watch

>>716449275 (OP)
Gravity Rush PC port fucking WHEN?

SNOYGGER COPE INCOMING
>SNOYGGER COPE INCOMING
SNOYGGER COPE INCOMING
>SNOYGGER COPE INCOMING

>>716449275 (OP)
It was over the moment FF16 flopped

>open borders for all
>NO, NOT FOR NINTENDO!!!

>>716449275 (OP)
Consoles as a concept are dead, really. They had merit when computers were clunky, operating systems were awkward, and powerful GPUs were unheard of.
Now, there's just no reason for their existence. They're just specifically programmed computers with slightly higher specs than market average.

>>716449675
If the movie actually ever comes out expect ports, if not don't hold your breath. Nobody would want to do it except Bokeh and it's doubtful they could afford the licensing fee

Will nintendo return the favor to us after we all go multiplatform?

>>716449614
Doing so well they've had to lay off tens of thousands of people and shutter like half the studios they've purchased, brilliant.

Nintendo won. Sony and Microsoft caved in like bitches.

>>716449746
no, their entire business model is like apple, as closed source as possible. just look every single weird gay cartridge and disk they've invented in hopes you can't pirate their shit

>>716449275 (OP)
Weren't exclusives only good early on when cheap PCs weren't great alternatives? Everybody went "hey instead of spending 10x the cash, buy this dedicated gaming machine!" and it worked fine. Exclusives then pushed those dedicated machines then creating the big names we know today.
But nowadays it's far easier to buy a reasonable rig that can play everything without breaking the bank. Why remain "exclusive"?

>>716449784
THE COPIUM HAS ARRIVED
>>716449694

>>716449724
Retarded cope, Xbox and Sony will inevitably flame out if they continue down the paths that they are while Nintendo will still be doing just fine.

>>716449436
If microsoft had never come back to pc their game division would be dead.

>>716449694
>>716449873
The only copium is here, Xbox is doing nothing but burning money

>>716449857
>Why remain "exclusive"?
If your game is a real system seller, or the console maker pays your team a ton of cash to keep exclusivity (or own you outright).

>>716449746
Only when the higher ups start droppin dead and the new fuckups ruin everything. Enshitification is inevitable.

>>716449951
The only thing keeping Xbox alive at this point is Microsoft hiding the expenses for GamePass behind five different sub-divisions, in some vain hope that they can fake it long enough to force it at higher prices.

>>716449959
>xbox is shitting the bed in hardware sales and brand recognition
>it's also shitting the bed by closing studios and killing games while bloat still festers
>their ONLY GOOD FINANCIAL MOVE that is called going multiplat is actually not shitting the bed and proved itself so that now snoyggers will follow suit
keep crying bitch nigger

>>716449746
Revenue and profit from their games selling on the Switch 2. So, yes? Just put Forza 5, Diablo IV, Oblivion, Sea of Thieves and it will sell. Tony Hawk 3+4 is already doing well on the Switch 2.

>>716449857
Why would you willingly give up 30% of your profits to some third party competitor when you can keep it all to you AND get a cut yourself?
Sony has to do that because their game costs bloated up until it wasn't sustainable to only release on their own console.
Nintendo doesn't need to do that because they kept their dev costs reasonable.

The box office /biz/ wannabe faggots on this site are seriously fucking mentally ill. They don't even react when you make fun of them. They just keep going on their endless pointless faggot LARP. It's seriously fucking insane.

After the disaster of the Xbone's first year, a good chunk of Microsoft shareholders were calling for the Xbox division to either be sold off or outright closed - it was only Xbox Live subscriptions that saved them. Question is, now they've spent so much in the last decade, what are the chances of them facing this again? I know a lot of MS shareholders thought the Activision buyout was an extremely questionable decision.

>>716449784
That's because they replaced the dei hires with AI

>>716449275 (OP)
>ps1 comes out
>people who only play sports and driving slop say Nintendo is dead
>ps2 comes out
>people who only play gta say Nintendo is dead
>ps3 comes out
>people who only watch movies say Nintendo is dead
>Ps4 comes out
>people who only play cod say Nintendo is dead
>Ps5 comes out
>people who only pretend to play games to support lgbtqia bipoc causes say Nintendo is dead
>ps6 comes out (?)
>Playstation is dead. They and their cohorts are now a homogeneous mass trying to pool their money together to temporarily stay alive
>Nintendo is king of the fucking world

Feels good knowing that, even at 7 years old, I was always fucking right. Sony was always phony unfun trend-chasing cancer. Good games won in the end. Feels good.

>>716449275 (OP)
>demon souls getting delayed on pc because the deiniggers and ericniggers want it on their dogshit consoles

So the winner of the console war is officially Nintendo.

>>716449887
Nintendo will be doing fine due to excellent marketing, not because the Switch 2 is anything the world benefits from.

>snoyggers can't stop malding and coping ITT
kek u faggots are going multiplat!

>>716449746
They would lose a lot of money if they did that, unfortunately

>>716449275 (OP)
Sony is dead to me.

>>716449275 (OP)
Anyone expecting Bloodblrne, Astrobot or anything good will be sorely disappointed.

>>716450161
>when you can keep it all to you AND get a cut yourself
Greater reach.
The only ones I can see preferring exclusivity are smaller titles.

>>716449746
They'd put Master Chief in the next Smash game they make.

is there a single fucking noteworthy game to even lose? all they do these days are movie slops. and americans can't make good games to save their lives

>>716449275 (OP)
KEK send Gravity Rush, Ape Escape, and Parappa the Rapper our way alongside PS1 NSO, thx

>>716449275 (OP)
I wonder if this will be just for their live service games or all of their games

>>716449746
>even though Nintendo achieved a dominating victory, will they surrender and pathetically spread their ass cheeks to get fucked anyway?

LOL.

No.

>>716450196
Feel like killing Xbox would have a negative effect for the stock price desu, they need to pump out some good news about COD making the big bucks for them though

>>716450473
>Nintendo will get the obligatory HZD port + the actual games and pre PS5 titles
>Xbox will get the GAAS shit
>PC will get everything

https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/sonyinteractiveentertainmentglobal/jobs/5587289004

So it's true. When you think about it though, consoles haven't really had exclusives worth a damn in the first place for generations. You buy a PlayStation for the PlayStation experience, the UI, the controller, etc. Likewise for Xbox if you pick the way they do things over PlayStation

>>716450462
>KEK send [a bunch of dead franchises they didn't touch in decades]
you're absolutely fucking delusional if you're waiting for those specifically

sony has betrayed me for the last time, i will not be buying a ps6

>>716449275 (OP)
Nintendobros we won

>>716450641
>OMG THE NEW SONY DIRECT HAD GOYSLOP 6: REVELATIONS!!!! FUCK THAT BOYCOTT I HAVE TO BUY IT NOW

>>716450632
Yeah, you go and pretend like Patapon, Freedom Wars, and Hot Shots Golf didn't just happen, delusional seething ass gaping balding snoy.

>PS3 will kill PC gaming
Oh what a fall

>>716450462
This. Their better games are being put out by third party publishers already.

>>716450401
Who needs greater reach when your offerings are interesting enough for people to flock to your own ecosystem anyway? They sold 155m switches and 1st party games did most of the work. I can understand why they'd rather keep their games exclusive to their own platform. It's what helps them sell it. Games sell, not being a status symbol for insecure teenagers and thirdies.

>>716450442
this
how many times do i have to post this picture?!

>>716449275 (OP)
An easy quick start would be adding the PS1/2/P roms they have in their classics catalogue right now instead of having to subcontract Bamco to do it for them.

>>716450241
Demons Souls was never coming out on PC
>MUH NVIDIA LEAK
The leak is bullshit, 90% of it never happened. Anyone can list a million games and just coincidentally see a handful of them get ported.

>>716449275 (OP)
B-but any day now!

>Xbox does this exact thing
>HAHAHAHAHA XBOX IS DYING LOOOOLLLLL SONY WINS
>Sony does this too
>Shut up faggot, more gamers playing is a GOOD thing

???????????

>>716450272
Back on the WiiU days there was doubt but at the end they won and HARD, they have an output that put to shame any other publisher.

>>716449857
Consoles used to be very different too. A game on the Sega Genesis was completely different than the "same" game on SNES so exclusives made more since. The last time exclusivity made any since was when the Sony was hyping up the power of the cell™ for the PS3. Now most 3rd party exclusives go multiplat after a year anyway.

>>716449275 (OP)
>Sony looking to release exclusives to Xbox and Nintendo
what exclusives? they've already been whoring themselves out for years now

>>716449275 (OP)
Turns out competing with PC was a bad idea. Nintendo had the right idea with going for hardware gimmicks

>>716450564
I'm going to laugh so hard if they release Astro bot on Nintendo consoles.

>>716450772
ps3 slop doesn’t belong

So Nintendo just won. Wow.

>nintendo
That'd be really really weird and funny given the history Nintendo and Sony had back in the snes/64 days

>>716450840
A PlayStation classic.

>>716450462
>alongside PS1 NSO
I want to play 3Xtreme and NFSHP on my Switch 2

>>716450840
Two different people are saying that

>>716449354
>9k
>more sales
devaluing the brand for a measly 9k sales is bad

>>716449275 (OP)
What exclusives?

>>716449275 (OP)
Software is the only thing that matters. Nintendo has had a monopoly over consoles for over a decade, everybody else has given up. This is a good decision.

>>716450840
This is why console war faggotry is stupid. Fuck exclusives, let everyone play what they want on whatever they want.

>>716450845
And it's probably gonna go up even more when their $150 million 12-story office is up and running in 2028 or 2029 or whatever.

>>716450872
What if the PS6 copies the switch and becomes a handheld? Will it save Sony?

Wonder what's the next game to come out. Maybe Gravity Rush since both games already have an HD version to port from.

>>716449746
lol
lmao even

>>716450772
>the only first party on the left side is already dead and buried.
Sony shat the bed HARD with PS4, the hubris got the best of them.

>>716450772
>Dawn of Dreams, the shit latter-day entry that pretty much killed the series for over a decade

Which fucking moron made this image

>>716449275 (OP)
God I hate consolewar niggers so fucking much. Do you fucking sony fanboys want more of the games you supposedly love? Do you want Spiderman 3? Astrobot 2? Returnal 2? God of War 3? Horizon 3? TLoU3? Or any of the other Sony tentpole games? Increasing the sales of them increases the odds you'll get it.

Fighting against more sales is just fighting against your own desire for more of the games.

>9k
>more sales
devaluing the brand for a measly 9k sales is bad

>>716449275 (OP)
>Keep making games they want gamers to want
>Not making games gamers actually want
>FOR 2.5 CONSOLE GENERATIONS...
it's an honest to god mystery. Oh well, I'm sure horizon and it's iMpOrTaNcE will save the day

>>716451034
Needs games to sell. Nintendo has all the games rn so it's not looking good.

I'll be honest, I expected this whole thing to feel less anticlimactic. We have an official winner of a console war we'd been watching for over 20 years (Nintendo), but I don't really feel anything one way or the other.

>>716450943
It's time.

>>716449275 (OP)
probably the most embarassing console cuckold playerbase

>>716449436
I see people are conveniently forgotten those 9,000+ layoffs not too long ago. And there is going to be more of that in the future. People will get angry and then move on to the next drama like claiming victory they are paying for $70 games instead of $80 games. Just forget about the $20 extra charge to play 5-days early or the $150 collector's edition that doesn't include a game in it. The trillion dollar company listened to us to lower the price by $10 for the base price because they really care about the customers...

>>716451058
it's a good action RPG with a fully playable party and fightan-style chainlinks.
2 and 3 were already performing way worse than 1. and DoD came out when the next gen was already available
so go fuck yourself you wanna-be Onimusha fag. you don't know shit

>>716449275 (OP)
>Gravity Rush re-release on my Nintendo (tee-em) product
Would be cool.

>>716451078
Given it was the main reason they started porting to PC in the face of rising budgets, has Sony's push on Steam actually had much success in China?

>>716450729
T-T-THOSE DON'T COUNT

>>716451113
Probably because the console wars isn't really over. A ps6 and a new xbox are guaranteed. The console war will not end until only one company is releasing a console, and I honestly doubt that'll ever happen

>>716451113
Largely because nintendo left the "war" after the gamecube and went and did their own thing. aside from the wii u it's paid off well.

>sony releases everything (except Bloodborne RIP) on PC
>xbox has no games
>nintendo games are all easily emulated
who cares?

>>716450729
who even gives a fuck about those? Ape Escape and Gravity Rush would have been much more hype. And in GR's case it's much easier to port. yet they didn't bother. i would love to see them again but don't get your feelies up just because they rehashed a PSP and PS Vita game

>>716451034
If they went all in on ARM for really good performance/watt I could see it working since PC handhelds are stuck on power hungry x86. But still they'd need good exclusives.

>>716449275 (OP)
>I was able to see the PlayStation finally die
I've waited over 24 years for this day.

>According to this job listing
Ehhhh. Most of those rumors turn out to be nothing, or misconstrued somehow.

>>716451232
Depends if you consider Black Myth Wukong and Stellar Blade to be part of Playstation's efforts to court the Chinese market. Though, even then, it's a small success so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhkXv4cmEyc

>>716326051
I KNEEL
I SQUEAL
MY HEADCANON ISN'T REAL

I COPE
I MOPE
SOMEONE HAND ME A ROPE

I SIN
I NEVER WIN
I BELONG IN A TRASH BIN

I JOB
I'M A SLOB
I'M TOO SHORT TO REACH THE DOORKNOB

I SMELL LIKE A TRASH BAG
MY WIFE'S AN OLD HAG
I AM, A SONYFAG

IT'S DONE
YOU WON
NINTENDO
YOU ARE NUMBER ONE

Sony has exclusives?
Beside Bloodborne?

>>716449275 (OP)
Nobody wants them lmao.

>>716451232
Helldivers 2 has achieved some level of success in China but it's probably the exception. Arrowhead, however got burned by Sony and don't want to deal with them in the future

>>716449354
It is when sony fags made the console and exclusives their whole identity

The retarded faggots on this board are so fucking stupid they make the retard cancer of old /v/ look like geniuses. What the fuck is happening?

>>716449610
>NOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK MORE PEOPLE GET TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES I LIKE!!!!!!!
Name one PS Studio game that you like

>>716449436
>How did that work out for Xbox?
xbox has always been considered a failure

>>716449275 (OP)
Expanding to other platforms just means day 1 releases of live service games, because those benefit from a high player count and FOMO at launch. Sony is not going to suddenly release their single player exclusives on other consoles, at least not day 1.

>>716449614
>>716449694
>analyst
Take discarded. Give me a call when Microsoft publishes cold hard data instead of a fluff piece from journalists that got paid to glaze MS.

>>716451543
Is what you say now

>>716451530
It's the brownification of the internet, sadly

In the end, Nintendo won. All these years of console war finally ended, there's gonna be Nintendo, PC and 2 pathetic multiplat machines.

>>716451504
NTA, but I thought their whole thing was that they wanted to own their next ip and not be contracted by sony, but they weren't ruling out working with them in the future

It's time for her to come to her rightful home.

>>716451232
>>716451428
The PC versions of Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade did extremely well in China, yeah. Their AAA first-party stuff has done okay but Chinese tastes are quite different to those in Europe and America, they didn't go totally crazy over shit like Uncharted and God of War like Sony thought they would

But seriously though, look at this thread. What is the value here? What are you learning? Even failing that, what is the comedy, the brainrot meme shitposting? There's just nothing here. It's completely worthless. What in the everloving fuck is the point of this board? Seriously can you fucking answer me?

>>716451658
Predict Gravity Rush's peak CCU.

>>716449275 (OP)
AHAHAHAHA
SONYFAGS WERE IN DENIAL A YEAR AGO
AHAHAHA

>Beat Sega
>Beat Sony
>Beat Microsoft
Nintendo SAIKO SAIKYO!

>>716451658
please I won't need my ps4 anymore if I can have kat's game on pc

>>716451352
It's up to Bandai really. If Patapon and Everybody's Golf do well, I see them releasing more PS games.

>>716449275 (OP)
AHAHAHAHAHAHA OHNONONO SNOYTROONS DONT LOOK

>>716449792
*PC won

It is not worth killing your brand for under 20k sales. Apple in the 1990s was a cautionary tale of what releasing on multiple platforms does. So is Ubisoft. Why do companies think this works?

>>716451696
>What in the everloving fuck is the point of this board?
I hate myself and reading the retarded shitposts here let me punish myself

>>716451605
This, smartphones and Indians were a mistake

>>716449432
>Bloodborne will be on Switch before Steam
Oh no oh no oh no
How the snoys will react about they precious game being ported to the Fischer toys Tablet?

>>716451695
I'd have to think Playstation wasn't dumb or lazy enough to think the Chinese would go crazy for Western AAA games. There has been a longstanding and established video game market in China for decades. They could've just looked at that history to see what games Chinese gamers have liked. But if you're going to start courting a new market, you may as well start with the games you already have. The China Hero Project was years away from fruition. The very first games from the project are only releasing in 2025 and the first PC ports were five years ago.

>>716451352
>Gravity Rush
>hype

You're just setting yourself up for disappointment again lad, don't to it to yourself.

>>716451805
It's not just Bamco, Sony are obviously game to license IPs they don't want to touch anymore to anyone willing to front the licensing fees. The Fantavision remake for PS5/PC was developed and published by Cosmo Machia, who I believe the original director has worked for since he left Japan Studio many years ago.

Oh my fucking science, shekelcorp studios just released goyslop 11: the faggot years on steam. don't they realize this will cost them 0.0004% profits this quarter in lost goysole sales? It's so fucking over

Nintendo really just outlasted them all

The writing was on the wall when they announced HD2 being ported to Xbox

no wonder eric was losing it yesterday

AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>716449275 (OP)
>bring your company over from Japan
>get infested with gaijan corporate raiders
>get filled with opportunists as employees that provide nothing of value
>”surprised pikachu face” when your brand is sinking and you go multiplat just to crank out movies

>>716449694
These “analysts” are the douche bags that would get into IB, VC, and PE from your schools just because “they knew a guy.” Remember this whenever you see the word “analyst” in news regarding gaming

>>716449275 (OP)
NOO NOO NOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS HAS TO BE MISTAKE! RUN THE CACULATIONS AGAIN! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

THATS NOT FAIR! ITS JUST NOT FAIR! HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP I SPENT FUCKING EVERYTHING ON THIS BRICK

>>716450886
>Mobile "games"
>50% of the market value
>Also $92.5bn with +2.8% YoY
Mobile "games" are retard bait and NOT REAL VIDEO GAMES.

>>716450395
ironically enough porting astrobot to switch 2 would be their best bet for selling the damn thing, platformers are objectively nintendo's bread n butter

>sony is looking to port their games to other consoles
>patapon sold better on switch than on the ps5
I like where this is going

With the release of Hotshots Sony will have more games on Nintendo than Microsoft

So when will Sony sell the PlayStation brand? I’ll give them 10 years. Anyone else?

>>716451034
Nah its too late. Unless they give everyone a free digital copy of every game bought then its dead on arrival. The switch 2 despite its flaws has improved switch 1 games to give it an impact. The real fault of that whole ps4 generation was the introduction of the "pro" console. It made generational uplifts meaningless

NOO..IT CANT BE
NOT ON XBOX, ANYTHING BUT THAT

>>716451078
Gamalytic has it at about 500k sales. You need to learn how that data works

>>716452364
Nobody knows how much patapon sold on the PS5, it was digital only. We can assume it was the highest though because of the playstation heritage

>>716452424
Never. Europeans and Arabs are brand loyal to Sony and can keep them alive even if they die in american and japan

>>716449275 (OP)
Stellar. Blade. NOW.

Remember when Nintendo was going to go 3rd party after the Gamecube failed? And after Wii "abandoned the hardcore"? And after Wii U failed? Remember all these?

Nintendo won

>>716451842
Because if it was just "2k to 20k sales" then they wouldn't keep doing it. In reality these games got to expensive and the main audience only buys sports games and call of duty now

In the end, this is all you ever needed.

>>716452348
Yea, yea.

>>716452424
m8, they didn't even sell pic-related in the early 2010s when they were hemorrhaging money and Sony Corp desperately needed hits, this is despite us knowing from the email hack that Kaz Hirai wanted to but was terrified of a shareholder revolt, the PS division will be fine.

>>716452581
Don't forget the jeets

>>716452637
>That chart
>That retarded "Yea, yea." faggot post
I'm sorry, did I not fucking say it loud enough, mobilejeet?

MOBILE. "GAMES". WILL NEVER. BE. REAL. GAMES.
Take your little fag club of slop and microtransactions the FUCK out of here and cease to be.

>>716452581
Fucking subhumans EUcucks

Imagine the meltdown when nintendo eventually announces Playstation 1 coming to NSO and they show off a nintendo brand PS controller

>>716449275 (OP)
How does this compare with Sega forced to be a 3rd party developer when they made the wrong gamble in releasing the Dreamcast very early with incredibly slashed prices when their financial situation was in a very precarious place.

>>716452656
It depends. Did Sony Pictures put their entire decade's plans on a single game that died in 10 days and offered refunds to everyone that bought said game? Were they scammed out of billions of dollars by buying a studio that released a game that is far worse than the previous one as well as a game so unappealing the only way it got any traction online was when they were accused of stealing art? Not to mention the game that I mentioned before is also in the middle of a legal battle too?

>>716452581
>>716452656
There’s been a lot of shareholder butthurt and they’ve wanted Sony to sell their semiconductor business among other things. Considering games are a net negative like xbone I wouldn’t doubt it happening. I think tencent or netease would buy it. Then total Chinese century

>>716452424
Sell the brand? Why?

>>716452370
there ain't no blame
sometimes the picture just don't fit the frame

>>716452770
This and Dreamcast for NSO would actually push me to consider getting a Switch 2.

>>716452749
Yea, yea.

>>716452832
Shareholders aren’t seeing returns they want. Look up Third Point

>>716449275 (OP)
Good.
Exclusives only existed due to consoles having a great difference in system architecture and capability.
They're all the same technologically (minus Nintendo being a gen behind) So there's no reason not to put your games on everything you can. It just gives you a wider market.

>>716452790
Chances are they're going to still make and release consoles for the foreseeable future so not as bad as that. At worst this means that playstation will have 0 exclusives, but it basically already does

>>716452882
What PS1 games do you want? Square Enix doesn't put their games on NSO

>>716452803
>Did Sony Pictures put their entire decade's plans on a single game
Yeah actually. People seem to forget that Spider Man was Sony’s get out of jail free card in the late 2010s. Now Sony Pictures went from a liability to an asset even without Spider Man

>>716452925
Don't think that means they're going to sell the Playstation Brand.
>Look up Third point.
If you cannot care enough to make an argument, I don't care to do it for you.

>>716452803
I think you need to remember just how badly they were doing in the early-mid 2010s, also Sony Corp was in REALLY bad financial shape back then.

Did you not read the leaked emails with all those retarded ideas that ended up being cancelled? Remember shit like the "Ghostbusters Cinematic Universe" or how badly they bungled the Amazing Spider-Man movies that were meant to be their answer to the MCU? It was only that Jumanji movie freakishly overperforming and the Disney deal that saved them in the end. If you ever think the PlayStation division is being run badly, just remember that it could be Amy Pascal or Tom Rothman in charge.

so will people be mad at nintendo for "holding back" games with their weaker hardware if this turns out to be true?

Oh yeah, this is happening!

>>716449432
With Switch emulation it would be easier to finally play BB rather than using the janky PS4 emulator

>>716452990
Square Enix are ultra jewish and would rather you buy their pixel remasters

>>716449275 (OP)
It's over, Microsoft and Sony blew their load on massive teams, DEI, replacing the native workers with jeets and chinks, putting too much budget on games that will never release, hit a wall in tech with 8th gen, and now both PlayStation and Xbox are dying. This is why both Sony and Microsoft have heavily been looking at the Switch and Steam Deck, this is why their future is being third parties optimizing their games for the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2. Nintendo and Valve won completely buy reading the room and doing nothing because they knew, they knew that this was going to happen, lmao.

Soon the king will make a comeback

>>716451842
literally all snoy games on ps5 are flopping. its all sequels that are worse than the originals and also sell worse, new ips like astro bot and returnal are immediately forgotten (stellar blade is not playstation studios), a bunch of remasters of games that just came out that nobody asked for
if they did this when they were pumping out uncharted/killzone/infamous they would be insane to do it, but now? its literally a last resort type of deal. it's either this or they have to stop making games inhouse because they are not making money from them and they aren't the main attraction anymore.

>>716449746
No, you Xbots and the Snoys will kneel to Nintendo's and Valve's fat cocks. Both companies waited years for this. America and Japan won, India and China lost.

>>716453119
I don't think they care, just like people stopped caring about Playstation exclusives. They have plenty of slop to enjoy.

>>716452990
I wouldn't mind the Oddworld games, Gran Turismo 1 and 2, Ridge Racer (R4 being one of them), Heart of Darkness, the Test Drive games, GTA 1 and 2, Parappa, Tekken 1-3, Resident Evil 1 and 2, Mortal Kombat Trilogy (a surprise game), Theme Park and some shmups.

>>716453024
>>716453118
>Should Eddie vape to show his darker side?

If stellar blade releases on shitch and xchot I'm legitimately kms

>>716450623
Why even get a PlayStation or Xbox anymore, lmao?

>>716453119
Games that release only on PS5 are sent to die. Only the turbo autist console warriors will be mad.

>>716449746
No, I'm not sharing

>>716453230
I wouldn't say nintendo has been doing nothing. They've been growing hard too but it seemed to have paid off unlike microsoft and sony

Jesus Christ Why

>>716453375
Did you not see?

>>716453375
Well I mean Stellar Blade was originally a PS4/Xbone/PC multiplat that Sony only got involved with when Shift Up ran into funding issues.

The reason Shu Yoshida shills Stellar Blade all the time is that it was basically the last relevant game he was involved with before he got demoted by Jim Ryan.

>>716451034
It doesn't matter anymore, they lost to Nintendo and Valve, what's even the point if I'll be able to get their games on a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2, plus Nintendo and PC exclusives with better backwards compatibility at cheaper prices.

>>716449746
Anon...

>>716453561
Nice inspect element, fag

>>716453728
https://www.thegamer.com/stellar-blade-could-be-making-its-way-to-switch-2/

>>716453512
Yeah, you're right, Nintendo and Valve been building this up since the early 2000s. Nintendo saw the direction Sony was going and didn't want to follow it, Valve saw what Microsoft was trying to do with PC along with abandoning it and made their move. What we see today is a culmination of everything Nintendo and Valve built up because they predicted this future would happen. Nintendo and Valve saved gaming because neither had survived back then, Sony and Microsoft would have collapsed the entire industry.

>>716453281
Sega is the all-time greatest there ever was at dropping the ball. They can't stop failing, and they never will. Just absolute dogshit.

>>716450047
>>716451170
It's amazing there are people truly believe they fire 9000 people across whole Microsoft was because gamepass

>>716453194
I get porting this game and all, but why were they tryna push it so much on switch of all things? Was first announced in that march direct before anything and is the only one with co-op. Besides, rhythm shit is one of sony’s shticks, I don’t even think any nintendo fan bothers with rhythm games, let alone heard of them

>>716452824
The fact they didn't sell off Sony Mobile back then was genuinely very surprising.

I know they're not sold in all regions anymore, but they are in mine apparently, which is shocking because I haven't seen anyone with an Xperia since like 2012. Who the fuck is buying Sony phones?

>>716449275 (OP)
Everything makes sense now.

>>716453787
I highly doubt that since Sony is the publisher for even the PC version, but whatever
never ever lol

>>716453787
>some guy on some Korean forum claims it's happening
Come on, now.

>>716453826
And both are smaller than Roblox.

Hope you're looking forward to more Solo Leveling garbage

>>716454117
>spats

>>716451038
i hope its a ape escape collection. then, they'll do ape escape 4

>>716454148
Said Korean forum guy was the one who posted the pic of the Shift Up CEO gifting his employees a fuckload of Switch 2, let's not play obtuse. Stellar Blade will release on the platform

>>716453826
>Sony and MS would have collapsed the entire industry
Nigger, they dont even represent 30% of the video game pie right now, you're delusional. Not even Valve or Nintendo represent any big chunk of gaming today.

>>716454183
Solo Masturbating when?

>>716449432
Sony hates that game, so probably not

>>716450279
At this point just doing the bare minimum by releasing a console that plays video games means they have a monopoly.

>>716454183
>Hope you're looking forward to more Solo Leveling garbage
Qrd? What’s that?

>>716454150
and how profitable is that for them

>>716449275 (OP)
What exclusives?

>>716454565
The unfortunate thing about Nintendo winning the war in the generation is that it comes at a time when Nintendo is their most uninspired and shitty. Congratulations to Nintendo all the same, but I really wish it wouldn't have been now of all times.

>>716449275 (OP)
i just want astrobot for pc, thank you

SONYBROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!!!

>>716449275 (OP)
I only care about Ape Escape and Gravity rush, like they did with Patapon for switch. Grandpa of war is shit, snoys can have it.

>>716454714
That's the wonderful thing. They haven't earned a dime in profit. Yet they're still worth 70% of what Nintendo is worth. They're losing money every day but the market still thinks they're almost as valuable as Nintendo.

>>716454747
>winning the war in the generation
meant "in this generation"

>"Ha, Ha ha! Steam wins!"
"Oh no! You sent me a unoptimized piece of shit port like Wuchang while the console versons can actually play the game! REEEEEE!!!"

>>716449275 (OP)
NOOOOOOOOO NOOO NOOO NOOOOOOOO

>>716452656
I remember thats CBS fomer CEO wanted to buy it and Sony music

>>716454043
Game is doing well in Japan and was made with being portable in mind. Seems to be doing better than the PS5/PC release.

>>716451164
what causes people to act like this
attention whoring?

>>716454309
Spats are kinda hot

>>716455158
being a manchild

>>716449724
>Now, there's just no reason for their existence.
Their existence is because each system has their own set of niches that can flourish on their own systems due to years of building up specific brands and genres paired with the fact that smaller selections means less competition allowing smaller games to flourish and games to find a hold leading to more niches forming.

Sony and Microsoft porting to other systems is the most retarded thing they could ever do to kill their brands. For Sony it's long term brand damage that lessens a reason for people to jump into their ecosystem, less reasons for devs to even remotely gamble on exclusives for their systems, and in the long term less people will care because most of what they have will be accessible on other systems like Switch 2 or PC. Microsoft was dying so they had to hit an emergency button, but you can see how they're functionally becoming a modern day "Sega after Dreamcast" and becoming a random third-party brand now. They've lost their privileged status as a console leader due to multiple blunders and now porting everything off what they do have.

I do not even remotely understand anyone who is anti-exclusive or anti-console, it is literally a net positive for gaming in every single way and the more we move to multiplat being the sole option the worse the landscape as a whole gets. Everyone has to compete with everyone instead of small companies finding a foothold on things like the Switch or the PS5 and building their brand from there. We literally saw the benefit the Switch 1's empty eShop brought to so many indie devs and small time devs. Everyone has to deal with thousands of games being released on Steam instead of maybe 50-100 on consoles. The worst part is that exclusives aren't as necessary meaning you don't have these new niches and genres forming out of thin air as much since the competition is far greater due to how many platforms you compete with instead of in your own ecosystem.

>>716454058
>Who the fuck is buying Sony phones?
Nips

>>716451164
I will never understand this. He could just sell the console.

>>716449275 (OP)
wouldn't this make tendiesnoy a real insult?

>>716449275 (OP)
I understand why some games could fare well on Switch or Switch 2. But Xbox? Those yanks don't even buy second hand games.

>>716452824
Chink fingers writed this

>>716455314
Nips buy iPhones, not Xperias

>>716450739
Why wasn't the third game included? Why?

>>716455030
>>716452529

>another era of Nintendo being the only console maker
Yay, monopoly! Yay, unfair consumer practices!

>>716455314
Wrong.

>>716455268
Nothing in your post addresses the rise of live service games which are becoming their own digital platforms.

>>716455445
Because it was oriented entirely around multiplayer and much of the mid, late, and postgame is built around having three other real people with endgame great pairing up with you. It was also not well liked at all.

>>716455445
It's garbo

>>716455268
>I do not even remotely understand anyone who is anti-exclusive or anti-console, it is literally a net positive for gaming in every single way and the more we move to multiplat being the sole option the worse the landscape as a whole gets.
Retards here and on leddit plus X can’t understand because they’re retarded consumers

>>716455378
Patapon and other PSP style games can have a second life on switch but yes I don't see anything selling on Xbox.

>>716455480
Nintendo Switch 2 is the fastest selling console of all time. Please shut the fuck up now.

>>716449275 (OP)
Maybe Sony can finally do something with Qbert and Lemmings instead of letting them rot now that they're going multiplatform

>>716451376
Arm would fuck with bwc

>>716455480
I mean steam still exists anon. Future is most likely only Nintendo and Valve.

>>716449275 (OP)
I see sony is going full retard. Their pc ports are mostly flops, porting shit to xbox makes no sense as xbox players don't buy games, porting shit to switch makes no sense either as tendies rarely buy multiplats. They are destroying the brand for basically peanuts

Silver lining? Kratos can be in Smash now.

>>716455565
um isn't that helping his point? Or are you just mindbroken by higher number = better?

>>716450817
80% of it happened
I'm glad Demons Soulless never got ported though the original is way better.

>>716449275 (OP)
it will probably be their live service slop and shit like mlb the show. if it's not and it's actual games, that'd be hilarious. put astro bot on switch 2 and it'd sell great.

>>716455694
>I see sony is going full retard. Their pc ports are mostly flops, porting shit to xbox makes no sense as xbox players don't buy games, porting shit to switch makes no sense either as tendies rarely buy multiplats. They are destroying the brand for basically peanuts
I want to know how the retards there get these jobs? It’s crazy how a few /v/irgins from here can turn that company around but they can’t

>>716449275 (OP)
But not Bloodborne.

>>716455727
I find it ironic they remade Demon's Souls in the first place

Yamauchi's laughing in his grave.

>>716451034
PS6 will be a console but they're making a handheld PS5. they just added an option for PS5 games to use "power saver mode" which massively underclocks the hardware, so you can save on your electric bill right? (it's going to be the handheld power profile)

>>716455705
The point is really weird because when Nintendo was the near monopoly (NES-SNES), it just lead to a total general improvement over Western console.

>>716452469
>Unless they give everyone a free digital copy of every game bought then its dead on arrival
They didn't in ps4 , They will not do this

>>716450462
And Wipeout. Can we have Wipeout?

>>716451715
probably low four figures

>>716452510
bloodborne in the switch

>>716455687
What about GOG?

I haven't turned my PS5 on in 3 weeks

>>716451297
Go back to your containment thread

I predicted this, there is no longer a reason to buy a PlayStation or Xbox.

>>716452364
Also
>That switch 2 survey that sony made

>>716454747
>it comes at a time when Nintendo is their most uninspired and shitty
But they haven't made a NSMB game in years.

>>716449436
Xbox is doing gangbusters revenue they just suck at pandering to their own fans.

>>716452803
Kinda, a bit later though. They canned half-finished Popeye movie and made the fucking Emoji Movie instead of it. It somehow made money tho, unlike Concord.

>>716449746
Depends on how well the Switch 2 holds up. The investors have been demanding phone ports since forever now.

>>716456189
They made Odyssey, Pikmin 4, Metroid 2 Remake and Dredd.
Also DK Bonanza

All sanitized, safe, easy and insipid.

>>716455480
Valve exists, it's not Nintendo's or Valve's fault Sony and Microsoft were stupid.

>>716449746
Why would they? Their systems are fine and worth the price

HOW COULD THIS BE?! I DEFENDED SONY FOR 8 YEARS AND NOW IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKING TENDIES AND THEIR PAID ACTORS, PEDO RINGS AND ERWOIRGOWIUSWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>716456210
>Xbox is doing gangbusters revenue
Citation needed

>>716456108
You also haven’t turned on a woman, ever

>>716452581
>euros loyal to Sony
France is a Nintendo country, though

>>716456268
not really

>>716450231
>revisionism

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO

>>716454138
Sony also published their games on Switch.

>>716449436
perfectly fine considering they're owned by Microsoft and will quite literally always be fine
told you faggots these companies would be moving towards going full digital platform and selling everything on every store possible, console warriors are living in the past

>>716456147
If you are someone who cares about video games enough to come to forums and imageboards to talk about them, you're on PC or have a Nintendo + PC combination. If you're not on your 30s or older and you want to play games, you're playing on mobile (iPhone, Android, iPads, etc), browser games or you're wanting a PC to play games like the streamers and e-celebs they watch. This has been the case for many years now.

>>716456504
>nintendo
Nice try

>>716456307
Heh. Wonder how the schizo's taking this

>>716449275 (OP)
Seems like Sony and MS are competing to see who can kill their console business the fastest.

>>716452581
>>716452750
Europeans are mostly on PC
Only FIFA retards get the shitboxes

Microsoft is making bank but Xbox is dying

Look at Clair Obscur physical copies, PS5 copies are gone, Xbox copies are available. Game pass, going third party, it all worked out for Microsoft but Xbox players are coming to PlayStation. Switch 2 cant run any new PS5 games so who cares, let them have the few PS4 games, think of it as charity they don’t have much going on and they jump for joy for 10 year old games “finally” coming to their console

>>716456271
This, Valve and Nintendo were doing their own thing while Sony and Microsoft basically killed themselves.

>>716449275 (OP)
It’s because the console war is over. Nintendo is in its own lane and Microsoft have effectively thrown in the towel. No need to hold exclusives now, people will just decide between console and PC at this stage.

>>716456581
Europe is pretty much Sonyland

>>716456504
Yup, when the OLED Switch 2 model releases in 2027, I'm getting that and a Steam Deck 2, no reason to get anything else. Gaming is finally healing.

Shit, does this mean we getting this on the Switch 2 and/ornPC? Either way I'm not fucking buying a PS5 for the only exclusive they have.

>>716449275 (OP)
what exclusives? Deathshit 2? This generation has nothing worth playing.

>>716456605
Good, Microsoft was a festering cancer that still looms over the industry, the landscape of gaming became 10 times better the moment they started to have the upper hand.
Actual games that aren't just third person, first person and car games now.

Shame about Sony, but they followed Microshit to hell so now they can die, slow but steady.

>>716456645
Why is the Playstation brand so huge in Europe? I know that Sony spend a lot on advertising at big soccer games but I'm sure that's not the whole story

>>716456735
>aislop
ironic

>>716456645
That's because UK, France and Germany, those Amerimuttoid owned shitholes, keep importing browns.

>>716456749
>Why is the Playstation brand so huge in Europe?
They successfully marketed their consoles in Europe and made a strong effort in localization. Nintendo did not have the resources for that but Sega did have a presence in Europe but they were eventually replaced by Playstation

>>716456504
>PC brownoids trying to ride Nintendo's coattails
Nice try, but you still have no games.

>>716456680
would be kinda weird since it's a game about sucking sony's cock but maybe

>>716456749
Anti-American sentiment, mainly.

>>716456765
Jeetsoft loves AI

>>716456749
Nintendo barely advertised here, Sega did since we had a gap.
Sega got replaced by Sony and FIFA shit made sure all the niggerball retards were stuck to it.
PC gaming was always a thing and never really went away.

Nintendo lost the European market essentially, way more niche here with some exceptions.

>>716456657
Steam Deck 2 just needs to nail the price relative to actual perceived value. Since Nintendo is finished trying to be different and innovative now, if Valve can get the value of Steam Deck 2 right, there will be no need for Switch 2 outside of giving one to your kids if they even ask for one.

>>716456749
They're basically the face of Fifer in terms of consoles and people in Yurop love their futbol, they had free online which got a lot of people on board in Eastern Europe specifically, Xbox in general was more expensive so the poorer Eastern European countries had less of a reason to opt over to it compared to PS3, and Call of Duty had exclusive content which got a lot of people during that gen.

They also did a solid job in the early years pivoting into the major European countries with the PS1 and PS2, especially with the PS2.

>>716456735
Sony fell for the GaaS and PC ports and Microsoft was stupid enough to buy a ton of studios and not do anything with them and replace them with indians and machine indians.

>>716456996
>80s
>90s
>Europe
>Anti American sentiment
My boomer dad was jerking off to Arnold and drinking Cola by the jug.
Fucking retard

>>716456918
Might as well since Sony's attachment rate is godawful.
>We're living in a timeline where R&C can be ported on to the Switch 2
KEK

>jap sonyfag predicts nintendo going third party
>it was actually sony who went third party
pottery
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/706485939/#706491661

>xbox and playstation have capitulated and released pc ports of all their games
>nintendo is still using hardware so pathetically weak that we'll likely get working emulation for their games on pc within a few years
PCbros... We've won.

Guys we’re getting gravity rush 3 only on switch 2

So Valve Sony and Microsoft bent the knee to Nintendo
Good

>>716449275 (OP)
It's a repeat of what happened in the late 90s. First they start putting their games on PC, then they start publishing them to other consoles. I fully expect PlayStation to go fully third party in a few years. PS6 might unironically be the last one.

>>716451034
People were already calling the switch 2 overpriced, you really think an even more expensive one with no games would do well?

>>716457043
Microsoft expected to make all those studios exclusive to their platform, especially the dearly yearly dead horse milking money making COD.

Then Sony lawyered up and lobbied up, these companies have a ton of dirt on politicians, and they pay them out the ass too.
Why the industry is barely regulated compared to Movies, TV and even Casinos.

>>716457206
>Valve

>>716449275 (OP)
hell yeah, we will finally get to play all Sony exclusives such as...

>>716451892
>How the snoys will react about they precious game being ported to the Fischer toys Tablet?
anon that game is older than some people here.

They should just make a one size fits all console already.

>>716457369
Bloodborne?
Stellar Blade?
The only good Mario game, Astro Bot?

>>716457354
Yeah, they lost hard and had no choice but to put Portal 1/2 on Switch
They couldn’t even outsell the Wonderswan

It's for their GaaS slop games not for their moviegames

they long for their own fortnite, they will never get it

>>716449354
making the product I purchased worthless to chase profit is bad

>>716452529
Lmao

>>716452591
>>716457464
>Stellar Blade
Already confirmed the game and the upcoming sequel are coming to Switch 2

>>716457498
Nintendo lost so hard you are now paying for 80 dollar games
lmao

>>716456565
Maybe that's why he has been on a spergout this week.

>>716457672
Sounds to me like no competition, Deck flopped, Sony and Microsoft has no choice but to put games on their system.
Everyone gave up.

Why are these fucking bozos so retarded, how can you look at what happened to xbox and say "hey lets do that too"

Goddamn western retards

>>716450395
She is already on Switch Anon

>>716457369
>Ape Escape
>PaRappa the Rapper
>Gran Turismo
>Wild Arms
>Everybody's Golf
>Twisted Metal
>Arc the Lad
>Boku no Natsuyasumi
>Syphon Filter
>God of War
>Ratchet and Clank
>Killzone
>SOCOM
>Siren
>Patapon
>Locoroco
>Dark Cloud
>Gravity Rush
>Team Ico games
>Wipeout
>Intelligent Qube
>Oreshika
>Superstar Dust
>Genji
>Soul Sacrifice
>Rapid Reload
>Astrobot
>Medievil
>LittlebigPlanet

>>716457269
I've been saying it for years: if you want to know Playstation's future then look at the shit the Xbox brand does that people hate.

With this, Sony is going to start gutting more of their studios and killing off any IP they deem to not make enough money. Sony's currently in full short-term gain long-term pain mode, so anything not making enough profit will be getting axed. We'll probably see less games from both them and Microsoft going forward that will be the same franchises for a while. We're currently seeing the AAA crash right before our eyes. The future of gaming will be indies and AAs on Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2.

>>716457705
PC still has exclusives and we get all the Ninpedo games/
You will seethe about it and you will dilate about it!.

>>716457369
The JP developed games. The western developed ones can go eat shit.

>>716456735
Creativity and innovation are about to make a huge return in a big way.

>>716457808
>exclusives
Maybe on ich.io
Hell Valve had to cave and pull emulators from Steam because they know they’d have to give Nintendo Steam when they lose in court
Don’t worry though Gabe will die soon and Blackrock will fix Valve for good.

>Americans take over Sony
>It goes to shit
IMAGINE MY SHOCK!

>>716457808
>He drops Sony the instant they have trouble
This snoy ho ain't loyal.

>>716457732
Sony doesn't even remember 95% of that
Plus they would make them all shit just like all their new exclusives lol.

The latest SOCOM was a PS Move game ffs

>>716457798
Yep. The era of AAA single-player is over.

>>716457808
Is that balding fuckwit still posting here? What the hell

>>716452529
>playstation heritage

>>716457869
cope

>>716457879
Sony lost me at the PS2, nothing they ever make will ever beat that.

>>716457883
*AAA is over
FTFY. you'll get GTA, COD and FIFA at best.

>>716457879
Corporations don't care about you. All of them don't

>>716457035
Pretty much, it'll be the culmination of what they learned from the Steam Deck now released fully out in the open. Switch 2 will be for kids to teens, Steam Deck 2 will be for teens to adults.

>>716457808
I dont know man. Im not calling any one console or platform "based" but I've seen more faggots with fag flags upset at the pricing. Some even claiming its "capitalistic" and phobic for pricing out hrt using fags"

>>716449436
>How did that work out for Xbox?
Half the top 10 on PSN are Xbox ports, so I'd say pretty good for the gaming division, but not so much for the hardware division.

>>716449275 (OP)
They’ve done this with MLB The Show since 2021. Nobody’s head exploded.

>>716457829
>>716457732
>All those dead franchises
If Sony actually made sequels to these games instead of movies and stopped being gay they wouldn't have gone third party

>>716457206
>Valve
You smoking?

>>716452529
At launch week it had barely like 20 reviews and didn't chart well. It sold well on switch and pc though

>>716452529
I think most of the PSP players are now tendies. But I could be wrong. I don't think it sold well at all on PS5.

will leafs and south americans ever accept console wars are over??

>>716449275 (OP)
>Xbox
Why put games on a dead platform?

>>716449275 (OP)
Exclusivity is dying unless your the holdouts like Nintendo and PC.

>>716458038
The cope then was "mlb forced them to!"

>>716449275 (OP)
This makes sense considering that Xbox is no longer competition in the slightest. It's basically a watered down PC at this point. Nintendo is doing their own thing and being able to play PlayStation titles in handheld form is enticing.

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft should colab on making one console that plays everything.

>>716449275 (OP)
They are going to do something retarded like exclusively releasing gravity rush 1+2 on switch 2.

>>716457498
>Portal 1/2
Those were already on Xbox and PlayStation though. Steam Deck can play games that can never come to consoles and is made for those games because it's a PC.

>>716449354
Nintendo Won, It means that their products were not premium enough to sustain them because how badly mismanaged they've become. Nintendo literally had a fisherprice tablet for sale and they still won out because how incompetent sony is.

>>716458003
They're the most vocal, also the poorest, that HRT and that vasectomy ain't gonna pay for themselves.
Plus they have a wifes son to take care of!

>>716458125
It's not dead. We buy games, Square Enix has been making bank porting all their games to xbox

>>716457732
>Ape Escape
>Dark Cloud
>Team Ico games
>Medievil
This list is depressing. Sony died with the PS2

>>716449275 (OP)
So the future of console will be just playstation or xbox flavored prebuilt PC.

So....multi-plat LittleBigPlanet?

>>716458240
>It's not dead. We buy games
saar, please do not redeem the game, do the needful and redeem the gamepass in alternation!

>>716458074
m8 half the reason why they dropped a lot of those IPs is that they didn't sell. Genji? Sequel was a mediocre flop that's only remembered for GIANT ENEMY CRAB and poisoned the well for samurai action games for years. Folklore? Pseudo-sequel on the PSP sold literally 3000 copies. Oreshika? Allan Becker literally had to fight tooth and nail for it to get an international release only for it to flop and wind up as PS+ fodder only a few months later.

I miss a lot of them too and there were genuinely dumb decisions made there (like Gravity Rush 2's marketing) on the publishing side but there was no financial incentive to keep most of them alive.

>>716458201
Nintendo doesn't need Sony or Microsoft the same way Valve doesn't need them. Sony and Microsoft just need to shove their games on Switch and Steam and call it a day, it's over.

>>716458426
All of them with few exceptions were awfully marketed by Sony, the American and European divisions were more busy selling their western slop like Killzone and God of War.
Even Twisted Metal marketing was embarrassing.

>>716458247
It's sad, PS2 was the last time I liked Sony, OG Xbox was the last time I liked Microsoft because even Windows Gaming was great then before Vista.

>>716458617
Xbox dying after paying journos and developers out the ass to state PC gaming was dead for like a decade feels so fucking great man.

Fuck Microsoft and fuck it's retarded fans, fuckers are half the reason the modern industry is so fucked.

So what Sony games are actually worth buying? I tried Spider-Man when they were giving free PS+ streaming trials during covid and it was pretty mid.

>>716458725
>All the games on this image are on PC
It's over...

>>716458617
The first few years of the 360 under Peter Moore were good to be fair, Lost Odyssey is a better FFXII than the real FFXII

Ah Snoy, I got nothin against ya. I just heard there was gold in your belly

>>716457107
>>80s
>>90s
>>Europe
What the fuck are talking about, retard? It's 2025 and anti-American sentiment is absolutely everywhere in Europe.

>>716458878
>Amerimuttoid zoomer doesn't know Sony has been popular since they replaced Sega in the 90s
Can't wait for you to die for Israel!

>>716458758
Did that started happening during Moore or after Moore?

>>716458845
True, also, if PS3 didn't fail, Tokyo would have kept the PlayStation.

>>716458617
Sony was good up to the PS4

they are trying to make a little big planet game thats like roblox

t.knower

Hey wait a second, does that mean Rocket: Robot on Wheels can finally get a re-release through NSO?

>>716457808
so you want to play ninpedo games?

>>716458973
The PS3 flopping was the biggest disaster to befall gaming. It opened the floodgates to the cancer we have today.

>>716459019
Isn't that when California took PlayStation?

>>716458973
During, but around the time he left in 2008
https://www.overclockers.com/the-death-of-pc-gaming/
https://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/epic-no-gears-of-war-2-pc/1/
Shit started in around 2006 and reached it's peak in 2010

>>716457625
>Stellar Blade
>coming to Switch
No it won't. The Switch can't run PS5 games

>>716459168
>360 DVDs caused piracy
It took almost 20 years to find a softmod (temporary) for the 360 and like 5 for full on PS3 CFW. Sonyfags are so fucking retarded

I get the feeling all this lets go multiplat kombaya bullshit is just because we are nearing the point where everything is going to be cloudbased and not hardware based and the companies want to be ready

>>716459168
Yup, first it was Peter Moore leaving Microsoft, it led to Microsoft Corp getting involved with Xbox and gaming and shitting up both PC and console gaming, then Sony gave PlayStation to California after the PS3 and they destroyed Sony's first party and killed the Vita. Both got rid of the custom tech and shifted to AMD PC chips and this was only the beginning of the end.

>>716458971
I'm suggesting that the reason Xbox didn't do well in European markets due to anti-American, allowing Sony to capitalize on it, retard. But good job on proving that America lives rent-free in your head.

>>716459168
You're absolutely right, but to be fair none of this shit would have happened if Sony didn't do the PS3 move and Nintendo re-released the Gamecube with fucking motion controls.

>>716459112
Isn't this exactly what happened with Media Molecule and Dreams? Yoshida said that they had these big plans to make it into a sort of recruitment tool for talent but they all pretty much fell apart when the game underperformed out of the gate. All the people at Sony on the publishing side who greenlit it and were involved with it in the early stages had either left or been demoted by the time it came out and their replacements didn't care about it so plans for a native PS5 release and then a PC port were killed.

Actually Yoshida going scorched earth on the podcast circuit. and revealing all this shit about the inner working of the PlayStation division is pretty fascinating. You can tell he's really pissed off about how he was treated in his final years.

>>716459178
Sony HQ moved the PlayStation division to California in 2016. The reasoning was that Japan had screwed the pooch on the PS3 and then Vita, and most of their revenue was coming from the States, so the division should be headquartered where the majority of the action was happening.

>>716459264
I fucking knew it. You can almost always tell when the change started.

>>716449275 (OP)
So, uh... The good Sony games, right? They released Patapon 1+2, so.. Ape Escape? Locoroco? Infamous 1+2? Right? Right??

>>716458971
Can't wait till your big gay firewall blocks you from /v/

>>716459332
That "custom tech" (just a PPC 970 with slight modifications) was an absolute dumpster fire compared to AMD's APUs. Good riddance.

>>716449275 (OP)
what exclusives? lmao

heh

>>716458328
>playstation or xbox flavored prebuilt PC.
Thats is the case since 2013

>should we copy nintendo, a company making a bazillion dollars every year or ahould we copy microsoft a company one bad day away from killing xbox for good

I will never understand it

>>716458201
If nintendo sticked with amd thats could happen, but now it don't going to

>>716449746
>>716450040
this might happen as soon as miyamoto dies

>>716449275 (OP)
Chester no!

>>716459540
This

TOTAL . X86 . DEATH

>>716459332
At least PC is fucking great
Never in my life would I ever think I'd be playing ARMA, EDF and Metroid on the same platform.
Just glad Xbox ifnluence is not only smaller each year, but they gobbled up two whole shit AAA companies (they helped to create) assuring they die even faster.
Feels great!

>>716459351
Fuckall to do with that and the 360 actually did very well here because Sony completely fucked itself with the PS3.
You don't know shit about Europe you EOP Amerimuttoid zoomer faggot, shut the fuck up.

>>716449275 (OP)
Nintendo fucking won

>>716459479
Yeah as crappy as modern consoles have become, the shift away from custom hardware was a definite improvement

>>716459393
>Sony HQ moved the PlayStation division to California in 2016. The reasoning was that Japan had screwed the pooch on the PS3 and then Vita, and most of their revenue was coming from the States, so the division should be headquartered where the majority of the action was happening.
Well, this explains why the first few years of the PS4 were great, 2013-2015. Why would Sony screw themselves over after making a comeback?

>>716451317
>nintendo games are all easily emulated

>>716459856
Delete this! AIIEEEEEEE!

>>716459642
Oh, it's great, the age of creative indie/AA games are returning.

>>716458829
I fucking wish, for some reason Sony's holding Bloodborne and Gravity Rush very tightly

>>716459856
>will use the Switch's mouse capabilities and Steam Deck's trackpads
Hell yeah

>>716459479
>>716459684
That was the whole reason consoles were even fun and why exclusives were actually impressive.
Now they're the same machine and console keyboard sissies are fighting each other over 2 extra frames.

>>716459621
>x86 BAD!!!
kys armshill

>>716459547
>I will never understand it
Company politics that foster a cliquish behavior which snowballs into sheeple following an idiot or a round table of idiots. I bet a bunch of /v/ anons here would be able to pull PS around and make the stock rise than whatever shitty people that works there.

>>716459998
>It's fun when the CPU is so unbelievably slow and frustrating to program that even a low clock, low power laptop chip completely slaps it around.

>>716459642
>Amerimuttoid
Obsessed.

>>716454043
One of nintendo's IPs is literally called RHYTHM heaven, with a new game coming out next year to boot

>>716459942
You can literally emulate both right now

>>716460103
>Xbox did bad in Europe and Japan because of anti american sentiment
>You're obsessed!

>>716460173
>basedderman
who cares

>>716460218
I'm not even an American, but keep proving my point for me, I guess.

>>716459998
>he wants consoles to go back to having horrible bottlenecks like the ps2's vram
No thank you, I'll take the boring low-mid range pc consoles we have today

>>716460383
>I'm not even an American

>>716460031
I don't even own a phone LMAO
Power PC all the way baby!

>>716460528
>IBM
SAAARRRRR

>>716460508
Keep proving my point, Abdul.

>>716460091
>>716460031
>>716460474
Doesn't matter what you fucking like, they're fucking dead in the water!

>>716459914
>All the survival horror ludokino in my wishlist
>All the RTS ludokino in my wishlist
>Mod Total Conversions coming out so fast I can't play them all
>Emulating all the cool stuff I missed out on like Valkyria Profile and Goldeneye
Life's good!

Fuck exclusives, I'm glad they are dying, let people play on what they want to play, and fuck Nintendo because they are the only company that won't abandon exclusives.

>>716460721
ZOG bless!

>>716460615
>redeemed the x86
>complains the needful is not being done, longing for the emotion engine saar even
*bobs head smugly*

>>716459998
They hated him because he was right

>>716460823
Zionists own Europe, too, retard.

>>716449354
Most of the consolewar shit is just shitposters who are only doing the console war shit for replies
The few who take it seriously are poor who can only afford one console.

>>716460989
I know, and you're the reason why!

>>716453290
>>716457549
>>716450086
>>716449873
>redditfrog

>>716460809
Convenient

>>716461309
I just hate having to buy consoles that will collect dust after I finish the exclusives I want to play

Honest question: What can a PS6 and an Xbox 5 offer outside of graphics? What can be done graphically that isn't already being done right now? That's really why new consoles come out, for the graphics. It sure as hell ain't for the games or utilizing the hardware.

>>716458217
>Nintendo Won
It was inevitable. Sony and Microsoft have basically killed each other in the race to be the dominant platform in the cutting edge visuals market, which is now unsustainable without multiplat releases. Nintendo stayed within the confines of strictly profitable budgets and hardware and are now doubly reaping the rewards.

>>716453119
They're since 6 gen

>>716461214
Rothschild control of the UK

Well they have to cover their 1billion USD loss.

>>716461468
>What can be done graphically that isn't already being done right now?
Plenty of new stuff that can be done graphically, but modern AAA games sure as hell aren't doing any of it!

>>716461687
I'm honestly not impressed. FMV's were a mistake.
HD was a mistake.

>>716458145
they literally did thoughbeit

>>716461468
They'd run games better, and a stronger console would lessen the difference between performance mode and graphics mode. Plus consoles aren't really at a point yet where an upgrade in graphics is completely unnoticeable. You'd have to compare them side by side, but it's still there and that's how it'll be advertised.

>>716461581
Funny how they bought Bungie, made a new studio for Concord, all to chase the live service meme, and they all fail and the only success is by the Magicka studio you bought years ago.

>>716461778
Nothing wrong with HD, plenty of wrong with incompetent talentless hacks constrained by retarded executives, which is what we have today in all of these big companies.

>>716461921
>Bought
Arrowhead is private anon, Sony never bought them out!

>>716461921
I legitimately don't understand what the hell they were thinking with how they handled Concord. Like actually funding the game, yeah fine you make some misfires by misjudging market trends sometimes, but then actually opting to spend a fortune buying the studio as well before the game was even out?

What the fuck? You can't tell me someone wasn't getting their palm greased during that whole thing.

Oh wait they took that one too..

>>716459418
you vill buy ze last of us for ze fifth time and you vill eat ze bugs

>>716462029
>but then actually opting to spend a fortune buying the studio as well before the game was even out
They figured it would be a hit, so they wanted to cash in before it did and their price skyrocketed

>>716461214
The Jews have been in control of Europe since before America even existed.

>>716462029
>>716462204
No, it's called embezzlement
Thanks for the golden parachute Sony!

>>716449436
Two of the top ten best-selling PS5 games of all time are from Xbox. Keep in mind this is without any of those console/controller/headset bundle deals that Sony has typically done for its own games, yet Xbox was able to push out better sales numbers than God of War and Horizon anyways.

>>716449275 (OP)
>Make hugely big budget titles
>The price it costs to make games begins to skyrocket from needing 1 million sales of a game to 6 million due to expanding the budget 2X every console generation
>Microsoft and Sony realize there is not of the userbase that will buy the exclusives and make up the costs to make their money back because they spent 320 million total
>Both of them decide to go multiplatform to make their money back including Steam
>Meanwhile Nintendo does not need to do this as they reasonably increase budget by 2-3% per console generation
>Only need to sit at a comfy 1.4 million sales total, only spends about 60 million to 30 million per game.
Nintendo is definitely a real Video Game company including Valve. Sadly Microsoft and Sony did not realize the long term consequences of spending too much and expanding the budget too quick.

>>716461986
Oh thanks for clarifying
>>716462029
>>716462204
How could they ever think it would be a hit? Also there's simply a very low change a new live service game will actually grab enough people to make it profitable, I find the whole situation baffling desu, what the first guy said about somebody pocketing a lot of money with the deals seems so likely.

>>716449275 (OP)
keep those retarded dei games off of my PC

>>716462320
Huh, Ratchet and Clank actually did pretty well

>>716462323
They've been growing too quickly since the 7th Gen days.
Now they can't maintain anything at all and investors are pulling out in droves.

>>716462320
ps5 is such a shit console. Astro bot is it's only good game

>>716462474
Mostly because there was nothing else on the PS5

>>716462551
Every Sony console since the PS2 has been shit, don't know why that would be any different now.

>>716452523
500k * 60 = 30mil
Jesus no wonder multiplat works, imagine making a casual 30mil just by porting an already made game over which would cost nothing comparatively. Even if the game sold a quarter of this it would still be easily profitable and worthwhile to do

>>716462071
you can keep spider-man gay boy. there hasn't been a good one since psx

>>716462657
I completely agree

>>716462323
Exactly

>>716462323
>including Valve
lol no.

>>716449275 (OP)
It doesn’t get much more obvious that the console war is over

>>716462693
they should've focused making more games based off the old comics like this one

>>716462693
Enter Electro and Spiderman 2 (the console version) were great too buddy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijnUxkeRsiw

>>716462929
was it? I never played it.

>>716462927
Why?
MCU slop makes billions off numales and brownoids.

>>716462927
collecting the comics in the game and being able to change costumes was the best part

>>716462885
Not him but Valve started off as a video game company and they have remained a video game company for PC gaming, their SteamOS is specifically made for gaming, and their hardware is made specifically for gaming.

>>716463058
when's the last time valve made a good game though? half life 2?

>>716459289
>ps5 game

>>716459289
stellar blade isn't a ps5 game. you can buy it on steam

>>716463019
Yes
Go play them right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8UsWMGukHQ&list=PLF60642361B16F8B3

>>716463058
Remember when they tried selling movies and TV?

>>716462323
Nintendo is not exempt from the increase in the costs of producing video games, they are just delayed by one generation. Mario kart world, Donkey kong took over 6 years to make. Zelda ToTK used over 1000 people to make. Nintendo is scaling up their development by hiring more people and increasing prices because they need to make more money off the rising costs of development.

>>716463131
Deadlock

>>716450401
I assure you snoymoviegame#235 doesn't need a greater reach than it already does
exclusives are the only incentive to buy consoles

>>716462396
>How could they ever think it would be a hit?
Truth is no one can really know what’ll be a hit and what’ll be a flop. To the consumer it may seem obvious but when you’re in the driver seat you can easily have that skewed perspective where you can’t accurately judge it. Hell just look at the music industry, if you were you take all the greatest hits in music, 85% of the time the artist didn’t expect the song to even be popular
>Also there's simply a very low change a new live service game will actually grab enough people to make it profitable
It’s high-risk but the potential reward mitigates that for most. It cost millions, but the payoff is billions upon billions. Undoubtedly that potential clouded their judgement

>>716459289
Not according to Sony themselves, thanks for beta testing

>>716463218
>go play it now
>gives me a YouTube link instead of an iso link
wtf dude

>>716451658
God please let that actually happen. I've been wanting to play GR2 for years.

>>716463227
>Deadlock
lol

>>716463227
shut the fuck up

>>716462396
>How could they ever think it would be a hit? Also there's simply a very low change a new live service game will actually grab enough people to make it profitable, I find the whole situation baffling desu, what the first guy said about somebody pocketing a lot of money with the deals seems so likely.
Reminder that concord was greenlit like 5 years ago when the video game market is totally different. The idea of video games flopping was unthinkable, there was always gonna be an audience buying the games no matter what. Concord was the first time a game made $0 instead of recouping costs at base minimum. The simple answer is that the gaming market today is overwhelmed with an oversupply of good games and people do not want to spend money on new games anymore not when fortnite, roblox, minecraft and the other infinite games exist.

>>716463131
Alyx

>>716463227
Fuckoff

>>716463360
vr games don't count

>>716463131
Alyx

>>716463261
>Exposing my ROMsite to a clearnet site
Fuckoff glownigger!

>>716463387
Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop

>>716462396
>>716463231
>>716463345
You can 100% tell that Concord was greenlit back when Overwatch was still really popular and the MCU was still king of the box office. Then add a bunch of "actually teenagers love gays and pronouns" shit from retarded focus groups and a 6-7 year development cycle to the mix and voila.

Amusingly, the game was doomed from the first reveal trailer because it never really escaped the "Woke Guardians of the Galaxy" critique and then Marvel Rivals came out not long after and pretty much ran off with the "Overwatch but capeshit" concept.

>>716463360
>Alyx
Wow, one whole game! Meanwhile, Nintendo put out dozens of games in the time it took Valve to finish making it kek.

>>716463387
>vr games don't count
Yeah they do. Since it's practically the most revolutionary game in the medium that hasn't be surpassed. Valve still deserve credit until other devs can pick up the slack and propel the medium like they should have after Valve set the example. It's also a very TECHNOLOGY game.

>>716463218
I mean, Nintendo had their moments too with Youtube and internet

>>716463467
they already know all your information

>>716463039
nobody would complain if they never made games with miles morales in it, not a single soul

>>716463539
vr only has one good game and it's called blade and sorcery

>>716463460
see>>716463387

>>716463225
Switch 2 will be Nintendo's last console, they have no reason to make a Switch 3 same with Valve with the Steam Deck 2, no need for a Steam Deck 3. Nintendo will just stick with the Switch 2 going forward and not push beyond, no point, Switch 2 is a future proof 8th gen console as the Steam Deck 2 will be future proof as well.

>>716459868
Bro let's be completely real here, who gives a single fuck about bing bing wahoo games like these? This shit is for toddlers and manchildren.... I fell for the "BOTW is the greatest game ever" bait once and installed it on my PC waiting for the greatest gaming experience in my life and it turns out the game is just a glorified collect-a-ton with the most annoying mechanic I have ever seen in a videogame. Pass.

>>716459856
Anyone have the Mario Odyssey on PS4 image for extra irony?

>>716463707
See>>716463467

>>716462447
Dont buy them?

>>716463774
never heard of it

>>716463387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgOGdcf7lq8

>>716463794
way ahead of you my friend

>>716450739
It helps that third party publishers are way, way better than Sony at remastering games

>>716463813
stop giving me youtube links. I'm not going to click on them

>>716463039
>imagine believing in the ghost of.kiev

>>716463683
I'd say the next best game after Alyx is Boneworks. That is another game that does certain ideas that would have probably expanded the premise of Alyx's own gameplay with it's very physics driven systems, and something more VR developers need to study and learn off. It's also quite impressive in it's own way, despite lacking the same kind of funding.

>>716463225
They dont made AAA slop, They're fine for now

>>716463918
honestly If you were to convince me about vr you should have posted those webms of people abusing anime women

>>716463809
Then go play FIFA?

>>716463894
Sam Hyde is real though?

>>716463870
https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=uZHecsUg-Q6

>>716450838
>Sonyfags unironically believed this would happen a decade ago
>Now the opposite is happening
The irony is delicious

>>716464060
the only sports game I like are blades of steal and the goofy arcade games from the 90s. stop being lazy and post webms or mp4 files.

>>716451034
They won't because Sony has trapped themselves into needing the best hardware available to support really, really good looking movies. They'll at most shit out another PS Portal, which will once again be a tablet that can't do anything without a console to stream from.

>>716464115
>Sonyfags made fun of Xbox for putting their games on PlayStation
>now the opposite is happening
Irony indeed

>>716464135
>Sounless webms and catbox files
No thanks, you get the lazy ass links

>>716464115
>Sonyfags unironically believed this would happen a decade ago
2 decades ago

>>716464153
did you know Sony is a generic company in Japan that nobody likes?

>>716455557
Watch Gravity Rush be a big hit on the Switch 2 and PC. The mods alone for Kat will help it sell millions.

>>716464181
give me a link to >>>/gif/ then

>Somy becoming a 3rd party publisher
Their games will become even more common denominator slop, killing off any niche IP, if it’s possible for them

If anything, this confirms the PS6 will be $1000 or over now, and the handheld, if it happens, will be $800 or more.

>>716455158
Brand loyalty

>Sony is shit
bird shit

>>716464239
they won't even bother making any games because fuck you you'll buy it

>>716464225
sony is a third party publisher in Japan

>>716449275 (OP)
Cool i this means ill never be forced into buying a gaystation again

>>716464223
Not into nigger porn, sorry!

>>716464193
I like how they were influenced by French cartoons and comics in the concept art.

>>716460173
They better put Lammy too since her game is the best one in the series.

>>716464348
sift through the nigger porn. you can have sound files on gif

>>716464360
everyone wanted to date lammy in high school

>>716464386
>sift through the nigger porn

>>716464413
you know too much

>>716464442
Too late now, can't unsee

>>716464497
the abyss is staring back at you

>>716464497
>holy shit people are trying to look like me?

>>716463731
Ok, you don't care about these games but what if I or other people do? It's not an argument. I hope you're not going to resort to name calling next

>>716464624
It's not wonder cosmic and existential horror is so rare, most people have never felt it.

>>716464943
>>716463731
I'll say, Bing Bing Wahoo is pretty overrated and mediocre, but they beat anything by Xbox or Sony easy.

>>716456749
>Why is the Playstation brand so huge in Europe? I know that Sony spend a lot on advertising at big soccer games but I'm sure that's not the whole story
That is why they're huge in Europe. Playstation capitalized on the sports games that Euros want the most during the PS1, so now every PS console since then has been the designated soccer machine. All the other games Euros play are on PC.

>Sega does what nintendon’t
>player will grown out of Nintendo
> focus on the west
> mismanagement
> sega become third party.


>Sony does what Nintendon’t
> Sony focus on “grown up”
> Sony move to the West
> mismanagement happened (you are here)

>>716465227
FIFA is on PC
But only the retards play FIFA, and retards buy consoles.

>>716464287
Sony and Microsoft will optimize their games better on Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 then their own hardware. I bet they're pricing these upcoming hardware really high to purposely kill them in order to go full third party and never make hardware again.

>>716465241
Playstation? More like Overstation!

>>716449275 (OP)
Sony died the moment Final Fantasy stopped its exclusivity deal.

Now there's literally no reason to buy a PS6.

>>716452912
NTA but these charts are kind of meaningless because while mobile makes money hand over fist, it does so primarily through whalechasing and it took literal ten fucking years of dedicated effort from eastern developers to convince westerners that mobile games were not exclusively slop. I'd want a chart that exclusively charts Asian company earnings for mobileshit, because nobody else was even trying to make games on that platform besides Asians for literal years, so it would more accurately reflect the reality of mobile GAMING versus other platforms.

Ps4 sony is peak scummy
Push money to dev for them to prevent them to release game on Nintendo.
Dealing with Activision to lock DLC/Game mode from Xbox to over take them as THE FPS machine.

>>716465486
>Sony died the moment Final Fantasy stopped its exclusivity deal.
Its happened the ps3

>>716462885
Ask yourself why Valve has never needed to do multiplatform ports and just does so for fun.
>>716463225
Yes and no. Yes they are scaling up development costs, but it's not 2X every generation it's basically reasonably scaling upward as the Handheld hardware moves upward. It also makes sense that Handheld gamers are not GRAPHICS focused all the time and just care about Gameplay. So Nintendo gets a pass by users and even Valve for Steamdeck.

>>716465486
Sony die the moment they can’t use money for shady practice to obstruct their competitors.
>stop crossplay
>exclusive DLC
>Exclusive game mode
>give money to dev asking them to exclude competitor.

Sony lost bigly

>>716465581
Playstation followed Microsoft and Xbox since the PS3 and since 2016 with the Commiefornia move, they are now Xbox.
Now somehow either the Japanese division takes reign again or they will die.

>>716450231
this. Total Tendie Victory.

>>716460173
>Sly
Don't get my hopes up like that anon