Thread 716476994

Valve is officially working on Steam Deck 2, and it will be as good as PS6.
It's over for nintendotroons.

>>716476994 (OP)
>Valve is officially working on Steam Deck 2
neat
>will be as good as PS6
retard

>officially
>rumors suggest
Please kill yourself at the earliest convenience.

That's weird,I don't see any announcement on their website or twitter,not very OFFICIAL

I think you mean the VISA+MASTERCARD DECK

Still waiting on the deckard.

>>716476994 (OP)
>sony is willing to subsidize 700usd/handheld to compete with switch2
Holy based, i can't wait.

Mindbroken by the news, as expected

>partnership with sony

Yeah no thanks

>>716477503
its here when its here lol valve time

>>716476994 (OP)
I've been thinking of getting an 'eck, I don't need one but I like the idea of playing my games on a handheld in my couch.
Should I just wait for prices to drop or for other models to release? I can get a good condition 256 LCD deck for 300€ but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

In that power profile? We're probably 7-10 away from a 20+ tflop system at 25 watts or less. Valve value better life so they probably want 15 watts or less.

PS5 level though? That might be possible, UDNA does sound impressive. And it'll probably support FSR4.5/5 so that should help too pushing for better than PS5 performance.

>Partnership with Sony
It's over, all the games... gone...

I wonder if it’ll sell 1/38th the amount as switch 2 like the OG Stink Dick compares to switch 1…

>>716477793
Both PS6 and Steam Deck will use the same 2nm chip.

>>716476994 (OP)
>Valve console
Finally. If the specs are nice and the price is good, will probably get it.
>working with Sony
Huh?

>>716477942
PS6 will draw between 150 and 250 watts. Steam Deck 2 even if they decide to sacrifice some battery probably won't go above 25 watts.

This is like a 10 times difference in power draw, also the Deck version will likely have significantly less compute units.

I'm still not really sure why I would want a "new more powerful steam deck". I haven't seen any new games that are simultaneously good and also don't run on my launch day LCDeck.
It's almost like those are mutually inclusive properties.

>>716476994 (OP)
>home console and a deck
Based. No reason to buy KEKonsoles by Snoy, MicroSHART and SHITendo.

>>716476994 (OP)
>It's over for nintendotroons.
Don't you mean sonyfags?

>>716478007
>Huh?
Sony has realized that they unironically need to sell their games on pc to make back as much as possible off the development cost, Valve and Sony has worked before with Portal 2 so this is just a natural partnership that benfits boths

>>716478509
>Valve and Sony has worked before with Portal 2
Can't find a thing about this.

>>716478635
it had crossplatform play between pc and ps3 and sony published portal 2 on the ps3, that feature is obviously dead now because the ps3 is dead, but they have worked together in the past.
Also Sony games sells like a lot on PC so yeah they want in.

>>716476994 (OP)
>Partnership with Sony
With Sony?

>>716477785
The OG Deck models are fine enough but they have a few problems that the OLED decks fixed:
>Fatal design flaw with the battery that literally bricks your Deck if you leave it at 0% charge for more than a month
>Battery life is pretty ass, even though the HW-info page says that you can get 2-8 hours out of it you'll get around 3 hours for 90% of vidya, 1:30 at worst and about 6ish hours for extremely lightweight stuff like basic PSX/GBA/NDS emulation at best
>Wifi is fairly weak, my laptop is fine even when I'm at the edge of my garden but my deck has connection issues unless I stay inside my house and even then it loses speed fairly easily
>The fan is a diceroll, you might get one that is "loud" but not annoying or get one that sounds like a cat in heat when you start pushing it
>Color accuracy is middling, it's not bad enough to be noticeable but if your used to darker blacks then it might drive you crazy

If you think you'll be gayman enough in bed or on the couch to justify the 499 cost then I'd say the OLED deck is worth the money and then some.

>>716476994 (OP)
For 1 band

>>716476994 (OP)
I wish new games coming out that dreck can't run were actually worth the upgrade

>>716477785
>can get a good condition 256 LCD deck for 300€ but I'm not sure if it's worth it.
For 300 only? yes that's definitively worth, you can upgrade the capacity by changing to a 2teras ssd

>>716477785
Well worth it. Invest in a 1tb ssd from Amazon and it's even better

>>716478746
Pretty sure point 1 is total bullshit since the Steam Brick exists

>>716478708
Crossplay doesn't require Sony and it was EA that published it.
Also Sony games don't sell very well on PC.

>>716477549
I hope its like deck 1 but stronger, and not that atrocious button layout/trackpads. Obviously will be a little more expensive but...

>>716478742
Sony wants in on the PC market so might as well join forces with the biggest PC game company
>>716478963
>Crossplay doesn't require Sony
for Portal 2 the only option for pc and console crossplay was Sony because Valve and Sony worked together at the time and you could connect your PSN account to steam because of this.
>Also Sony games don't sell very well on PC.
they sell well enough and thats still more sales to offset insane huge budgets, Sony obviously wants to invest more into PC because thats a huge market now, so working with Valve on the steamdeck 2 to have an idea of specs will make things easier for them when porting.
It's just the reality of the industry, xbox is already publishing their games on other platforms the exclusive as we knew it is basically dead outside of Nintendo.

The coping in this thread is hilarious. Did sega fans behave like this when the end came?

FUCK SAKE

I JUST BOUGHT AN OLED ONE

AHHHHH

>>716476994 (OP)
It's not happening until we have a breakthrough in battery tech. We can physically pack the power into a handheld but we need battery to power it.

>>716479134
>the only option for pc and console crossplay was Sony because Valve and Sony worked together at the time and you could connect your PSN account to steam because of this.
Anon, that doesn't require any work from Sony.
>they sell well enough
I think only about one of them has sold more than 1m and these are games that require around 5 to 7 to break even.

>>716476994 (OP)
>Sony isn't making video game consoles anymore

lol

lmao

>>716477785
Wait for the Deck 2. Also the LCD on the Deck is fucking garbage, if you really need one get an OLED.

>>716479302
>Anon, that doesn't require any work from Sony.
thats still them working together dumbass
>I think only about one of them has sold more than 1m and these are games that require around 5 to 7 to break even.
yes that would be bad if they only sold on PC and not Sonys own console, imagine if they did that, that would be silly.

>>716479134
as much as i despise sony exclusivity i also understand it, the fact that they bring the majority of their titles denuvo free for people to own with no gay loopholes to play the games you buy i have to respect that i actually want them to succeed on PC with this framework

>>716477785
Do you really just want to play games at home on your couch? Then get a streaming handheld for cheap. I got a G-Cloud refurbed for about $170 and it's the most ergonomic handheld I've ever had. I don't need to worry about what it will run cause everything is streaming from my far more powerful pc.

>>716478963
Sony games don’t do ridiculously good usually because they aren’t good games when faced with the insane competition for time which is the PC space. You have your exception to the rule with Helldivers 2.

Wake me up when a handheld device with an Nvidia GPU or APU arrives that isn’t a Switch.

>>716476994 (OP)
Well fuck this company and Gaben for not making it PS7

>>716476994 (OP)
It's over for the shitch 2

>>716479462
yeah that is a pretty nice thing of them, but yeah I imagine Sony will still make some single player stuff playstation only for a while but multiplayer stuff is going straight to pc, theres really no reason not to Helldivers did way better on PC and the industry is shifting towards PC anyways

>>716479693
yeah for example death stranding, ghost of yotei, demon souls, i can see these games coming at some point, they just keep them there for 6 months to a year or maybe more depending on sales figures and deals then double dip them with pc sales, sony just has to not be retarded with the playstation network bullshit for these games or people will pirate them instead

>>716479438
>thats still them working together dumbass
No, no it isn't. If Valve does all the work, which they did, then they didn't work with Sony.
>and not Sonys own console
Where software sales are also down significantly compared to last gen.

You're really desperate to defend Sony aren't you.

>>716479557
For a little more the price of that shit you would get a deck and do streaming and more...

>>716479918
>No, no it isn't. If Valve does all the work, which they did, then they didn't work with Sony.
oh my godness it's retarded

>You're really desperate to defend Sony aren't you.
Holy shit it really is retarded, I've not defended Sony once, I've just explained what they're doing schizo

>valve and sony join forces on the troonix side to fight microsoft's windblows
Now this is the retard fight i want to see.

>>716477168
Passing off rumour as truth is the basis of all grifting.

>>716480048
NTA but you're literally defending Sony by giving them credit for something they weren't involved in.

>officially
>rumors

ITT: tendies seething

>>716476994 (OP)
>and it will be as good as PS6.
and it will be just as useless as the first eck

>>716481454
Saying tendies are seething doesn't make it true anon.

>>716479919
Deck is $400 at least and I don't want anything more than streaming. It's also 1280x800p while G Cloud is 1080p.
The sole advantage it offers would be playing games on the go and on the few occasions I would, I wouldn't want to be lugging around anything the size of a Deck or Cloud. I'd bring an actual pocketable handheld like a Retroid or Trumui brick and play through a bunch of retro games and hacks I haven't gotten around to.

>>716476994 (OP)
Remember how yesterday, you claimed the hecking wholesome gayben chunguses were oppressed by the evil tendies shitposting?

So that was lie

>>716476994 (OP)
If they were actually doing this the question is: Will it be locked down to any degree or will Sony be at peace with it being as open to fuck around with as the original Deck? Most of their ports don't even have Denuvo so maybe they won't give a fuck?

>>716482008
Welcome to the magical world of sonyfag shitposting

>>716477942
you retards that watch mlid need to all neckrope

>>716478242
It's been over for sonytrannies for over a decade now.

>>716482008
Are you new here? Everybody blames the other on a never ending oroboros spiral.
Recognizing blame is impossible.

>>716482008
what?

>>716476994 (OP)
>and it will be as good as PS6.
Extremely unlikely, the rumors are probably mixing up Valve's new steambox specs with the Deck 2's.
It will still shit all over the S2 and consoles in general, but there's no chance they're cramming in PS6 tier hardware into a Deck. The thing needs to be affordable and feasible.

>>716477216
The guys who made the deck already said in an interview they're working on a deck2, we just have zero details about it.

the power of ps6 on the go nintendo utterly btfo

>>716477785
If you can, go for the OLED. I doubt we'll see a price drop again with this shitshow of a market/government. Some might say wait for a Deck 2, but that's 1-2 years off.

>>716479324
>Also the LCD on the Deck is fucking garbage, if you really need one get an OLED.
As someone with both, Valve fixed the shitty washed out colors on the LCD in an update. It is nowhere near as bad as it was at launch.

>>716479268
Don't worry, it's probably 2 years out at least.

Whats on your wishlist for the steam kek 2? for me its a 1080p screen, 32 GB ram model and better joysticks and triggers

>>716477785
it does seem cool but if you wanna lie down it'll start getting uncomfortable after a while
i suggest just getting a 2nd hand gaming laptop, you can get a decent one for 300-400 bugz that is about the same performance of the eck
give a bit more and you'll get a lot more powerful one

>>716483218
beefier battery and GC style dual stage triggers like the steam controller had. Emulating full press in software just isn’t the same as a physical button. Also I want DS4 style bumpers. The clicky bumpers on this thing feel like shit.

>>716483218
>1080p screen
you're retarded, there is absolutely 0 need for that
all it would do is drain your battery more for multiple reasons such as requiring a more powerful hardware to run games at 1080p and just having bigger res in general
while you gain absolutely nothing for having it
retard take
all it needs is bigger RAM, bigger battery, OLED VRR screen(which it already has) and better d-pad and buttons

>>716483218
>for me its a 1080p scree
Unless the screen size is significantly bigger, that's a big battery drain for tiny benefit. I hope valve doesn't fall into that dumb nintendo trap.

>>716477149
>>716482760
>Rumors
>Source is random post from twitter
Everytime someone says something it’s always from the most misleading website called Twitter.

>>716483548
>beefier battery
I forgot about that
>>716483570
>>716483682
Screenlets no need to reply

>>716483740
>Screenlets no need to reply
you are so very very retarded

>>716477247
kekaroo

All ps6 games will just give you steam versions by default like what happened with Potato back on the ps3.

>>716483740
current screen has higher ppi than the average 4k monitor. it would just be a waste to increase the resolution unless the size of the panel was also bigger

uh oh, screenlet melty

>>716483570
Deck OLED's screen does not have VRR

>>716479557
>streaming
why is this shit so widely recommended these days? Do you people have no standards?

>>716484293
with a good wifi6 router you'll be streaming at about the same latency as your frames, it's seamless

>>716484272
yeah you're right, it has HDR, my bad got those mixed up, it needs VRR

>>716476994 (OP)
>it will be as good as PS6

Then that's a bad sign.

>>716479557
this is a genuine retard opinion, not because streaming is bad per se
but because you can achieve this exact thing for about $20 by just getting a telescopic controller for your phone like picrel
i use this on my S24 Ultra to both stream shit via Steam Link and emulate
so my advice to >>716477785 you would be to test this first and see how you like it and then get the Eck if you do

>>716483740
>Screenlets no need to reply
Bro, what do you think the deck 2 is going to have exactly? How big do you think it's going to be?

>>716484052
uh oh retard detected
opinion rejected
lets go over what having a higher res screen does
>the screen itself requires more power, meaning less battery
>higher res screen means more powerful hardware required to run games at smoother framerates on higher resolution
>you are essentially future-gimping the device because newer games will require more powerful hardware, meaning it will be harder to run newer games at native resolution in the future because of the higher res screen
all this while you gain very little to almost nothing by having a higher res screen
its not smart to do so in any capacity
you can easily connect the eck to external monitor if you wanna game in higher res

There better not be any Snoy button or Snoy specific software you can't remove.

>>716484996
>Linux
>software you cant remove

>>716483570
I'd rather it have a CRT over OLED VRR

>>716476994 (OP)
Will it come with a Horizon bundle?

I bought the most expensive lcd deck and that's been my only computer for years
I'm waiting for a deck 2
building a desktop is too overwhelming and expensive

>>716478742
Sony is making a handheld, the ps6 will probably be both a home console and an optional second handheld device that can play ps6 games which means their aims for their next console are directly in line with the deck 2. If they both want custom silicon from AMD then it makes sense to work together, Sony is already working with AMD to develop FSR which valve with then make heavy use of.

>>716477785
If you're planning on using it for more than 2 or 3 years no matter what then get an oled model, if you're willing to upgrade within 1 year if the deck 2 comes out then get the LCD model.

>>716483570
If you want to conserve battery then turn down the internal resolution, there's no negatives to putting a 1080p display on it

>>716476994 (OP)
lmao snoys are getting desperate

>>716476994 (OP)
>vita 2 will be a steam deck with extremely sensual haptic feedback and PC publishing freedom
>but valve will remove all vitacore games from steam just before it comes out

>>716485962
Anon I don't think you understand how displays work.

>>716486194
Tell me how I'm wrong. the increase in power usage comes from the CPU/GPU having to run the game at a higher resolution, how is it any different if you tell the game to run at 720p?

Valve clearly were waiting for the Switch 2 to be released, so they could up the hardware so they could emulate Switch and Switch 2 games properly this time around
It's no secret Valve advertised the Deck on the fact you could illegally play nintendo games on their device
This is basically endorsing piracy of Nintendos property on Valves part

>>716486807
That would be extremely based, but Valve doesn't think about Nintendo at all and one employee who worked on the Deck said as much when asked in an interview.

>>716485962
>>716486503
man you're retarded
why are screenies always so retarded?
it has been explained multiple times
also what you're suggesting will make the game look significantly uglier since its not running at native resolution

I never understood why would someone get a Deck instead of a gamer laptop

>>716486807
Deck released 5 years after Switch.
We don't even know what hardware S2 emulation will require, but you can be sure 3060 is gonna be the minimum and that's for a desktop device so closer to a 3070 on a mobile device.
Using laptops for reference, a steam deck 2 would cost at the very least $1000 if you made such a device right now.
Maybe Valve can make a good deal with AMD but they also can't sell their hardware at a loss.

>>716487062
the argument is bullshit, but if it was true they would never admit to it, so this counterargument is also meaningless.

>>716486807
Valve is waiting for higher end hardware with better sub 25w performance, and that has nothing to do with Nintendo. Get out of your terminal console war brainrot.

>>716476994 (OP)
Why would they want to or need to work with Sony? They can just go to AMD and TSMC direct for the chips like they do already.

>>716478949
NTA but it happened to me. I had to send it to Valve to get it fixed.

>>716479134
Watch them sign a EGS exclusivity deal, shooting themselves in the foot again.

>>716487301
I still can't understand why anyone would buy a laptop, let alone something as stupid as a "gamer" laptop

>>716487301
I see it as more of an extra toy for people with expensive rigs and as a tool for helping console gamers ease into the PC gaming environment. As much shit as it gets for being "hard to use", Deck is a lot closer to a console experience than a laptop would be.

>>716487207
Ok so you have no answer.

>>716479134
>Sony obviously wants to invest more into PC because thats a huge market now
I take a wild guess and say it's especially because of the chinese market. It's difficult to get in the door there because you want to be that western good goy company, but when some chinese politicians doesn't like it cockblocks your whole division.
Not just games, but community features and monitoring, moderation have to be built around whatever Riceman says.

Somehow Steam is doing really well there.

>>716487720
Valve and especially the deck aren't big enough to justify custom chips, I'm pretty sure the deck 1 was just leftover shit that Microsoft commissioned for their surface tablets and then abandoned. Sony would provide the necessary scale to justify building a custom solution. The real question I have is why the fuck Sony would work with valve, what benefit would they get from helping the thing that is killing consoles.

>>716488483
The answer? Sony is looking for at least a partial escape from the hardware market, long term. The current console ecosystem isn't sustainable.

>>716478509
It doesn't benefit me, the consumer.

Valve brand doesn't mean much if sony is there to undo all the pro-consumer illusions.