Thread 716517781

How different would gaming history be if Nintendo never existed?

Platformers most likely would never have taken off. It would all have come down to Sega and we know they would've fucked it up

>>716517781 (OP)
Gaming would not had recovered the crash, sega Sony and Microsoft would not enter gaming

>>716517781 (OP)
No Donkey Kong, so platformers would take longer to become big and Billy Mitchell wouldn't be relevant. "Metroidvania" wouldn't have the first part of its name. Handhelds would be stuck with trash like the Lynx. Sony wouldn't enter the console business as we know it. No NES button layout and later SNES button layout for everyone to rip off. A lot would be different.

>>716517781 (OP)
There would be a noticeable absence of autistic manchildren today.

>>716518157
The crash only existed in America

>>716518204
>"Metroidvania" wouldn't have the first part of its name
Why would you think the -vania would exist if, as you think, Donkey Kong didn't create platformers?

>>716520153
Oh that's right, Castlevania wouldn't exist. Neither would Sonic or Crash or Commander Keen or Giana Sisters.

>>716517781 (OP)
It would just never have happened at all. There would be no good games and the bad games would never improve, and so gaming would have just stopped being around at all pretty shortly.

>>716519828
The whole world plays American games, so yes, everyone was affected.

>>716519828
Consoles virtually didn't exist elsewhere yet, the market was in its infancy in Japan and Europe. It was all bleep bloop computer games that aged like milk and nobody looks back to except for historical reasons.

>>716520341
>It would just never have happened at all.
Please. You think Bushnell wouldn't have pushed Atari even harder without Nintendo in the way? There still would have been 80s video games they'd just be janky blocky Atari 7800 crap because Atari was focused on quantity over quality.

Who knows? Maybe laserdisc games like Dragon's Lair would have become more popular. Maybe we'd have all been playing click-the-arrow with primitive DVDs instead of platforming. That might have become gaming.

>>716517781 (OP)
SEGA and Namco would have taken over

>>716517781 (OP)
I guess we'll never know

Panasonic, Sega, Namco, Phillips or Atari would have taken Nintendo's place. Most of those companies had more experience with consoles than Nintendo at that point. The thing Nintendo did right at the time was branding.

>>716520153
Because Castlevania wasn't directly founded on Donkey Kong-style platforming. It was more influenced by the cinematic horror aesthetic mashed up with action-adventure design, and its platforming was stiffer and more methodical. Even if the pure arcade-style platformer hadn’t evolved the same way, something like Castlevania could’ve still emerged from arcade action roots or even PC dungeon crawlers. It might’ve looked different, sure, but gothic whip-a-thons weren’t exclusive to Nintendo’s influence. The "-vania" part has more to do with structure and theming than Mario jumping.

>>716520341
>Nintendo is responsible for each and every innovation
Innovations happen organically as technologies evolve. The same or similar inventions have been independently created by completely unrelated individuals. At somepoint someone will figure out that momentum carrying between jumps felt good and will design their game around that and then others will follow suit.

>>716519828
Consoles were a non-entity in Japan until Nintendo released the Famicom and Europe was mostly just PC games.

>>716521013
SEGA only did the Master system because of the famicom

>>716518157
Yes, the crash greatly affected the PC games.
lmao

>>716525106
I dont, the crash was on consoles thats would not recover without the nes

>>716525325
Yeah, so it wasn't a gaming crash, it was a console crash.

>>716517781 (OP)
We would be playing Dreamcast 2 right now.

>>716522650
>something like Castlevania could’ve still emerged from arcade action roots or even PC dungeon crawlers
Yeah but you could say that about any type of game. I was making a comment on his statement specifically that he said Metroid wouldn't exist, but Castlevania would.

Games would have went the way of digital pets like Tomagotchi and then later Net Navis and then REAL Net Navis.

>>716521773
kek. tendies won.

/v/ could never exist without the ability to bitch about Nintendo.

>>716517781 (OP)
they carried the 90s but there has been nothing of value from them in the 21st century

>>716527064
switch fags are gonna freak the fuck out when they see this

>>716517781 (OP)
Gaming as you knew it would've never existed since Westerners crash it in the short time they controlled it... no, I'm not talking about gen 7 lmao

>>716519828
>implying american market isn't important

>>716521773
>keycard jewery
>mutiplat on Nintendo systems
Predict its units sold

>>716528656
>Predict its units sold
better than its PS5 run, but not by much

>>716525325
He's stupid and think PC is a gaming system, prease understand seemingly based idort

>>716528585
The best selling games of all time was made by a westerner.

>>716517781 (OP)
Less lawsuits around the world. The world would be a better place.

>>716528585
My gaming isn't bing bang wah-ack! so wrong.

>>716517781 (OP)
People might actually know about arcade games instead of disregarding them as "quarter munchers"

>>716528978
>better than its PS5 run
A Crash on Xbox type of mogging lmao

>>716529045
Tetris was made by a Russian, not a Westerner but Asian since Rusia is literally on the line between Europe and Asia, anon. That aside Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was a Japanese made game (+50 million units)

>>716522062
explain

>>716529309
I'm talking about minecraft, dummy. It's trailed by GTA V, another game made by westerners.

>>716517781 (OP)
The world and gaming would be a better place if yakuza (jews) never won the war (USA).

>>716529698
>I'm talking about minecraft, dummy
Minecraft was free. Also, made by internet debatably 4chan) not the "west"

>>716530030
It was made by Mojang which is a western game dev and it sold 350million while not being free.

>>716529698
>GTAV
>a game that needed multiple platforms and outliving the generation it was released
>while relying on sales as well
Anon, I...

It would certainly be a lot more of a niche hobby. I think after the crash of 1983, companies would have focused less on consoles and more on arcade games and PCs. Perhaps Atari or Sega would have given console gaming a try, but I don't either would have been as successful as the NES.
Also, without that deal that went sideways with Sony, the Playstation never becomes a thing, and Microsoft would have just settled for being full-time PC.
As far as the games themselves, they would have been radically different. Think about how many game devs were influenced by Nintendo in some way.

>>716530183
It was well know the rumour the creator of Minecraft lurked this site.

>sold 350million while not being free
Multiple releases, anon. The IP sure, a standalone title in one platform is extremely doubtful

>>716521773
Astro Bot explicitly ripped off Mario, so it wouldn't exist.

>>716530259
>nooo that doesn't count!
That's the same deal with Marioh Kart 8? The game game was later bundled onto Switches. GTAV made 1 billion revenue in its first week of sales and they kept re-releasing it because sales remained strong. Tetris was also released numerous times because people kept buying it

>>716530287
>and Microsoft would have just settled for being full-time PC
Nintendo basically saved PC gaming for a while distracting MS' gaming efforts with Xbox instead of going to shit sooner while being full time PC.

>>716530353
You release your massively popular game on whatever platform people want to play it on so that they can play it, dummy.

No Nintendo -> No SMB3 -> No Commander Keen -> No Doom

>>716530541
>That's the same deal with Marioh Kart 8?
No, MK8D sold its bulk on its own in just one system in the timeframe of said system. GTAV required extended period for sell units and multiplat platforms to release chasing the prospect of a potential selling ceiling (the sum of the platforms it was released while MK8 managed to break the odds by simply suceeding expectations within said ceiling cap.

And let's not forget GTAV's economic success is a lie due transactions and predatory tactics outside simply units sold as it should. With that Tetris is by far the best selling; no predatory tactics, no changes, just the game as intended for the platform it's released making it unique to every time Tetris was present on the system

>>716530692
And Minecraft's core audience was, and should still be, on PC

>>716530961
>GTA V was le evil snoy devilspawn brought unto the world to corrupt fun
>MK8 was made by the good guys who created my magical childhood and saved humanity
delusional shitendo troon

>>716530961
GTAV sold that much without online. The metric is copies not MTX

>>716531171
>GTA V was le evil snoy devilspawn brought unto the world to corrupt fun
>impying GTA is exclusive
cope harder

>>716531215
>The metric is copies not MTX
And GTAV has more time around than MK8D and more platforms boosting its numbers even more in variable degrees

>>716531260
Not very subtle, Eric.

>>716517781 (OP)
I love tranime.

>>716531334
>weekly famitsu thread #10
Is the schizo hour calling everything you disagree Eric, Eric?

>>716530353
>Multiple releases, anon. The IP sure, a standalone title in one platform is extremely doubtful
How the fuck can you bring that up after naming Tetris in >>716529309?

>>716531502
Tetris was never intended as multiplat, GTA was. Every itineration of Tetris is different from the other, every release of GTAV is not different one from another. It's simple, pay attention

>>716525002
SG1000 predates the famicom.

>>716520153
>Donkey Kong didn't create platformers?
No, Space Panic came out before

>>716531690
>SG1000 predates the famicom.
They actually came out on the same day.

>>716531690
>SG1000
>mfw confused this for a guitar

>>716517781 (OP)
I would have never gotten into video games since video games wouldn't be a thing. At least not on home consoles. So I'd probably be in even worse shape than I am now and would probably be on drugs or something.

>>716531674
>Every itineration of Tetris is different from the other
No. Many of them are the same especially the standalone tetris handhelds and the phone versions. Making a different version for different console is literally demonstrating the intend to release on different platforms

>>716531690
>SG1000
Not the Master System. Learn how to read. Also came out the same day. Also the Master System ripped off the Famicom's controller.
>Space Panic
No jumping.

>>716530961
MK8 was released on the Wii U and had to be re-released because the Wii-U flopped. It "broke the odds" by becoming a pack-in for the switch which actually sold well.

>Due to the crash of '83, without Nintendo video games would not exist today!
Only an idiot would believe this. Although yes, probably today videogames would not be so mainstream and Atari would rule for at least 10 more years.

>>716531075
Minecraft continues to thrive thanks to mods. No other platform is as friendly to modding as PC.

>>716527064
Super Mario Galaxy was pretty cool

>>716533006
>ripped off the Famicom's controller
There's nothing original on the famicom controller. Sega ripped off Atari's controller port as most
>No jumping.
Still a platformer. Jump Bug had jumping before dk anyway

>>716517781 (OP)
about the same

>>716518157
>le crash
how to spot a retarded american who gets his vidya history from tendie youtube videos

>>716532550
>Making a different version for different console is literally demonstrating the intend to release on different platforms
Wrong. GTAV 360/PS3/PC have no difference between each other despite the hardware leaps unlike Tetris

>>716534005
>MK8 was released on the Wii U
And we're talking about MK8D; not the same, balance is completely different even.

>>716535523
It's true; when the crash happened Nintendo was just changing CEO and Yamauchi inherited a company on the verge of collapse, then he saw Yokoi and his new invention at the time and he decided to make a bet despite all the risks. Nintendo entering gaming post crash to redefine it was result of several unlikely events that happened.

>>716538009
>Being this tech illiterate
They literally have to be programmed differently better exploit different hardware architecture and technology including ray tracing. The game still gets updates on all platforms to improve its performance because it is still that popular. It often shows up on the steam top sellers page.

>>716538703
>They literally have to be programmed differently better exploit different hardware architecture
7th generation killed any form of individual hardware use, only PS3 kept traces of this but due being a clusterfuck to develop not because of features.