>only 4 masteries
>only 1 act
They'll add more content soon..right?

>>717042303 (OP)
maybe next year

>>717042303 (OP)
How's the game so far?

>>717042882
Not worth $25. Runs and looks like hot garbage due to UE5 and doesn't have much content. About what you would expect from a sequel 20 years later made by people who had nothing to do with the original.

>>717043024
Shit. I have been waiting on this one for years. :/
Oh well. Ty anon.

It's shit

So far, so fun, playing a warfare/earth full heavy armor retaliate build. Stand still and poke fuckers while they burn around me.

>>717042303 (OP)
who knows its still early access. they can promise anything they want doesnt mean itll happen. i wont even consider buying until the full game is out and i know what im getting into.

>>717042303 (OP)
It's the beginning and an early access.. what do you pretend? they're clearly shaping the game keeping in consideration the players feedback.

>>717042303 (OP)
Technically, if they play their cards well, they can produce something even more better than the current isometric ARPGs. And it would be a win for them, considering that it is solo player and not a always-connected multiplayer game.

>>717042303 (OP)
>I thought we have diablo at home
???

>>717043613
Release postponed again? Guess solasta 2 is the game to wait for.

>>717043024
goddamnit man.
modern gaming fucking sucks.

>>717042303 (OP)
>Titan Quest II
:)
>Early access slop
:(

>>717043024
>>717043368
>>717044656
UE5 was a mistake. For every game that uses it.

Come home.

>>717044250
That's Hero Siege though.

>>717044667
triple-a studios pulling the indie dev monetization schemes will always be dumb bullshit

>>717043718
I just hope they won't fall for some endgame memery. Like it's fine if there's something for the spergs to grind after they kill the final big bad but I hope they design it such that it's fine to end the game once you've killed the big bad.

>>717045049
Brown Tranny?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1154030/discussions/0/591778249679547606/
it's woke

>>717045049
I've been playing D2R with a friend recently and got reminded of just how fucking bad the Druid is in just about every build he has

>>717042303 (OP)
>early access only has a fraction of the content
whoa...

>>717045049
I've unironically been playing Diablo 1, it is really fun.

>>717045314
I mean you were warned for literal decades, Druid is trash, period.

>>717045049
>>717045447

>>717045206
two minute reply time to that is pretty funny. anywho, if you care about such things, there is also this comment from a negative review:
"4. Consulted by a few inclusivity advisor groups like the infamous S**et B**y, injecting vitriolic self-hating agency into the cool classical myths and legends of old and trying to insert the lame sermons into the storyline, retroactively ruining whatever impression you had of the simplistic Titan Quest 1 lore. The damage done to the game is so severe that the gender has been removed from the character creation, and gods and goddesses are addressed in a non-gendered way whenever possible."

>literally 3 hours of content
amazing.

>>717045314
>>717045450
But the Duuduu can easily clear endgame now?

Summon Duuduu is viable. Elemental Duuduu has dissociated lockout timers. If you're still complaining, the problem is you.

>>717042303 (OP)
I'm playing it right now. The game looks "Okay" but the performance is niggerlicious on Linux

>>717044667
>Titan Quest II by fucking spellforce 3 devs
:(
>Early access slop
:(
>few hours of content
:((

>>717045694
Thought it was 6

Torchlight 1 + 2
The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing trilogy
Victor Vran
Titan Quest
Grim Dawn

Any others?

>>717045558
>modded
you didn't beat the game

>>717045783
It's whatever number you want, that's how shitposting works.

>>717045694
N-NO IT'S ACKSHUALLY 15 HOURS BECAUSE YOU CAN REPLAY IT AS EVERY CLASS COMBO!

Didn't they announce this game like 3-5 years ago? How in the fuck it is releasing in early access as little more than a short demo build at this point?

>>717045817
Sacred (1 only)
Titan Quest 1 + 1st expansion

>>717045817
Van Helsing is kind of awful to be quite frank.

Also do not fall for the Torchlight 3 meme. Or the AIslop that is Torchlight Infinite.

>>717045819
But it lets me have a higher resolution :(

>>717045864
It was announced 1 year ago.

>>717045963
The female characters are kinda hot though

>>717046075
Fucking really? You're going to accept the desecration of a legendary studio's work just because the chinks stuffed it full of generic AI anime thots after taking over?

How shit this was really made me want to go play another ARPG. Can't play PoE1/2 right now, too burnt out on 1 and waiting for 2's next league. Is Last Epoch good yet? I didn't love Grim Dawn, skills were all so boring.

I never did actually play TQ1, think I have the anniversary edition or something. Any good?

>>717046431
TQ1 is nice but janky. Controls feel sluggish and somewhat unresponsive. It's still a nice experience, just be prepared to accept the shortcomings.

>>717046431
Last epoch sold themselves to krafton so really can't recommend buying it now. That being said last season really improved the game. Season 3 is in august and looks like a big necro rework is included

>>717042303 (OP)
I don't like the story at all i prefer not knowing my character past so i can pretend i am whatever but this one is a forced "you are the chosen one i trained you from a childxD" bs.
also i don't like the poe style mechanics of bosses and the absurd slow speed of the character

hello im here to deliver goods, though they may be damaged

I do like the way you can customize skills and the seperate active/passive point system. Not being able to tell item lvl at a glance is dumb. Couldn't find a built in item filter.

>>717047956 .

>>717045450
I knew but I thought the buffs in D2R would've made it at least decent. It's not.

>>717045696
Of course you CAN clear but all his skills do subpar damage. Summons hit like a wet fart. His spells do a fraction of a hammer or a good sorc spell. All his spells have shit targeting too. Wolf and bear are a joke.

>>717046431
>Last Epoch
>black paladin
pass

>>717045314
???
hurricane/nado druid is literally free real estate
just go fissure spec until 30-40

>Early access
Always gets me nervous

>>717045819
devilutionx so he can run it easily on a modern system

>>717045314
Absolute retard.
Summon is the only bad tree in unmodded.
Elemental is good the entire game.
Feral is good late game with gear.

>>717042303 (OP)
>NEW TITAN QUEST
>not from Titan quest devs
Who gives a shit

>>717045783
it's legit 3 hours. alkaizer played through it and killed every single monster and it was 3 hours. i guess it's more if you want to fucking around with other classes. but watch as titan quest shills try to defend this

how the fuck is it possible to offer so little content. even if they release a fucking quarterly update they will add about 30 minutes shit to do.
lazy ass nigger devs they are provided all the fucking easy to use fundamentals by epic and they still shit out bare minimum low effort tranny slop

>>717046431
>TQ1
extremely cool setting and a long campaign, but VERY slow. maybe the slowest ARPG in the entire genre.
>Last Epoch
The last update made it much better, the new tombs are really fun to explore. However, it's still very easy and some classes are literally immortal, you can't die even if you try.
You could also try the Team Ninja action game+ARPG hybrids like Stranger of Paradise or Nioh 1/2.

>>717043024
>not unity
Every time

>>717042303 (OP)
Sacred > Titan sloppa lmao

>>717048519
>>717048720
They clearly released it out of sheer desperation then. It doesn't look good for this game ever being finished or the studio surviving.

>>717042303 (OP)
DIABLOS4GAWDS WE OWN THIS GENRE
FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THIS ACTUAL REAL SLOP LMAO

>>717048963
WHEN'S IT ON SALE AGAIN
IT AND III I AM EXTREMELY CURIOUS ABOUT III AFTER HAVING MISSED OUT ON IT OVER A DECADE AGO

>>717048720
Post your play hours.

>>717045817
dungeon siege 1+2
I heard V Rising is good but havent check it out yet

>no camera rotado
>no camera zoomado
>narrator is that shitty va from ass odyssey
>good performance thoughbeit
so far its a 3/10 but it's rising

>>717049375
>no camera zoomado

I don't like the constant AAAA AAA AAAA AAAAA singing every cutscene

>>717049525
ok i had to move 5 steps for it to start working. it's a genuine 3.125/10 atm.

>>717049372
V Rising is not really an ARPG. It's basically isometric Rust with a vampire theme. It's multiplayer only, focused mainly on crafting and building bases, and getting your stuff ganked by Chinese hackers in the middle of the night after you log off.

>>717046431
Last Epoch has a new league coming out this month, so just wait for that.

>>717048456
not only that but it's also UEslop

>>717048382
>play fire druid
>come across a fire immune
>your phys damage is so low that it outregens it
elemental so good

>>717049117
ON SALE RIGHT NOW
D3 is actually pretty kino

So is it really like 3 hours of content?

>>717050239
>$20 USD
Guess I'm taking the plunge.

>>717042303 (OP)
Is Grim Dawn any good?

brehs this is the pinnacle of ARPG loot and I am not even kidding

>>717050335
Have fun

>>717050315
Of course not.

>>717050476
shit was kino
too bad d2 ruined everything...

>>717042303 (OP)
>expecting early access to progress on time
they say a year but I promise you it'll be at least 3
because you queers are giving them money now and not later when the game is actually finished

>>717050315
Not even

>>717050315
it's 5-10 at the absolute max if you read every single line of dialogue and every single skill/etc description

>>717050473
i like it, but an anon somewhere here said something about it having boring skills and i can kinda see his point there. some are fun and make you feel powerful to use, but its certainly not all of them. some specs require hardly any keybinds, where some feel like youre playing a double decker piano. it has weird inconsistencies like that.

>>717050315
Yes, about 3-4. And enough different build types that you might get 10-15 if you try them all.

TRVKE INCOMING

>>717050745
anyway it's EA. like they are not pretending to sell you a full game...

>>717050638
right. theres no telling what theyll use that money on. fixing bullshit nobody cares about? cocaine and hookers? another ferrari? a different game entirely? who knows.

when the FUCK is fangs of astekarn

>>717050473
It's excellent.

>>717050856
pushed to 2026

show some gameplay

where da torrent at

>>717049654
Oh that's too bad. It look kinda nice like torchlight meets diablo.

>>717051129
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>but it's EA
>but it's EA
>but it's EA

Buy a fucking ad you shill. EA doesn't mean a literal fucking paid demo.

>>717050745
Why are people so retarded? It's EA and EA basically means demo.

>>717051461
If it was the full game it wouldn't be EA. Dumb nigger.

>>717050745
based GPT review. why the fuck did he put spaces after the em dashes though

>>717043368
>>717044656
Stop eating up any toaster user's post as gospel and just check the steam reviews or wait for more

>>717050473
Before I wasn't really terribly interested in ARPGs, ended up getting pretty addicted to Grim Dawn for a while. Don't be like me and skip out on the expansions at first, you can get them bundled with the game on sale for a pretty decent price.

>>717050745
>Pretending to be a full game
>Devs explicitly states it's early access

>>717050239
D3 is the liquid shit of the genre

>>717046431
TQ1 is pretty good when you figure out how it works. Set the game speed to very fast, it's just like Brood War where it's pretty much unplayable unless you're at the fastest game speed. Also, targeting is very different in TQ1 compared to other Diabloclones, if you select a target, you will lock onto that target until it dies, even if you hover over to another enemy. The enemy you are hovering when the last enemy dies becomes the new target. This makes melee gameplay extremely smooth when you realize how it works, and now I can't stand playing melee in any other ARPG because TQ1 basically perfected it for the genre.

>>717051252
Unfortunately not. It's designed to be played more like an MMO with a group, none of the content is particularly solo friendly.

>>717050745
Let me guess, it has dozens of clown awards? All the negative reviews are getting clown bombed by THQ Nordic staff lmao

>>717050476
could you pull off a normal/magic/unique rarity system in a modern game? seems like every game adds at least one tier of rarity in there

People don't take it well when a big budget game does EA like this. PoE2 got a lot of shit for it too and it had a lot more content.

This version of TQ2 should've been the Steam demo.

>>717048029
one more to the list >>716964206

At least we have No Rest for the Wicked...

>>717053709
lmao, that game is full with game director smelling his own farts

how the hell does this game run so poorly? last epoch is in unity and runs just fine even with no upscaling ffs

>>717046431
Titan Quest 1 feels like a 40 hour Warcraft 3 RPG map. It's fun, but it's incredibly weird compared to pretty much any other diablolike, even though most of the gameplay systems are the same that Grim Dawn uses.

>>717053871
because this was made in unreal

unreal can't even handle an isometric view of modern assets without chugging

Just finished it.
Went Earth rogue and had fire slams and what not. I like the world and meeting the fates but why not put example builds in the game or other things to experience. Just bizarre. 25 dollars feels wild to charge for one act but here's hoping I guess.

>>717053919
how long played in steam?

>>717053915
but why though, you would think the isometric view would significantly cut the amount of shit being rendered vs open world slop. are these devs just retarded?

>>717048841
Nobody will ever trust Unity again after they tried to force people to pay for user installs. Just because they walked it back after the massive legal shitstorm doesn't make them trustworthy again.

>>717053983
you would think but unreal is just THAT shitty

absolute fucking disaster of an engine

>>717053979
Mind you this was me boosting the enemy level by 2 and doing exploring more than usual.
So I think 4 hours is fair.

>>717054019
a lot of devs still using unity though

The people who made Titan's Quest 1 went on to make Grim Dawn. Dunno why anyone would be hyped about a sequel being made by no one who touched the first game dev wise.

>>717042303 (OP)
Just play it when the game is complete.

FUCK I was just going to get Diablo III but wound up getting II and IV as well by the way why is the deluxe version of IV's expansion the one on sale but not the regular version

>>717054246
Which is sad because Grim Dawn is not good at all.

>>717054565
Diablo 4 genuinely sucks. 2 and 3 are all you need. After finishing the campaign with one character I have never felt compelled to reinstall and play it again.

>>717042303 (OP)
>1 act
lol wtf

>>717054573
Yes it is.

>>717054860
It really isn't. I played through Titan Quest back in the day probably 5 or 6 times. To this day, I have never completed a single character on Grim Dawn. It has no interesting classes, mechanics, or areas. The setting/theme is boring. It feels like shit to play.

>>717054860
i wish it wasn't, i love arpgs. but grim dawn is so boring, not a single class or skill is interesting or fun to play with. i'm pretty sure only hoi/civ tier autists can enjoy it

Diablogawds are just the chad of this genre

>>717055062
>>717055276
Genuinely sounds like nostalgia to me. Like I cant fathom this opinion at all when GD blows TQ out of the water in almost every important way. It's way better balanced, has much better character build pacing, way better itemization and diversity of builds and gear to facilitate it.

>>717055987
There's no way anyone could genuinely think this.

>>717051887
>toaster user's post
bought and refunded the game after an hour of my 7900xtx barely trying to run this thing above 60 fps. I knew this shit was coming the moment I've heard it was going to use UE5 but holy shit I was not expecting to see this level of laziness and retardation on a fucking ARPG

>>717056421
It's objective fact. You could argue that you don't like the aesthetic or the setting as subjective things, but not those other aspects.

>>717050745
It wasn't released as a full product, what a massive retard.

>>717045314
I know melee is shit but fury druid was the most fun I ever had with diablo.

>>717057147
Nobody cares that it isn't fully complete. People care that it has 4 hours of unique content.

>>717057147
It wasn't released as even 1/4th of a product. It's a glorified Nextfest demo being sold for $25

>>717050745
>anons back then were right

>>717045817
Torchlight 2 has some questionable design choices that can sometimes make picking up good loot feel bad when it both can drop loot you can't use, or can't use for another 7 levels. Which always begs the question of why the fuck did you drop this for me?

>>717057845
Torchlight 1 and Diablo 2 both do that as well. At least the Tochlight games have a shared stash to transfer items between characters. In D2 singleplayer it's just high quality vendor trash.

>>717045447

>>717057780
what does the x axis represent?

>>717058430
Also the respec option in the game is laughable at best. You get to undo the last 3 skill points you use, but your stat points are set in stone. So if you want to try a different build, that's a totally new character you have to make instead.

>>717052181
>This makes melee gameplay extremely smooth when you realize how it works, and now I can't stand playing melee in any other ARPG because TQ1 basically perfected it for the genre.
I can't stant the janky animations to play melee builds. My limit was playing a guardian with Onager who usually just summoned phalanx to kill shit.

it's an ok game so far. the onboarding is definitely better than the slow ass first game. mana recharges pretty fast too. in tq i was waiting like 8 seconds between each encounter just so the shit fills up.

>>717055062
>>717055276
I have 1000+ hours in GD, it's a good game. Titan Quest has unmatched aesthetics that carry the game for me, but GD preserved the SOVL, and made gameplay and build crafting much more enjoyable. One thing where it more or less failed is visual design - TQ still manages to look fresh and beautiful, while GD is undeniably very aged.

>Stealing PoE pot system
Smart
>MMO Raid floor damage
Smart
>Dodges
Smart
>Female combat trainer
Not smart, game is trash.

>>717059927
>in tq i was waiting like 8 seconds between each encounter just so the shit fills up
Depends on your build. They range from having constant mana issues to having infinite mana.

>>717057780
Self owning tard doesn't know how a graph works

>UE
What a shame, I almost got excited, the original was fun, too bad nearly everything is cheap UE slop now

>>717060067
Crate released info about the next big expansion way too early. It's been, what, nearly 4 years since they mentioned Asterkarn and it's no where near complete yet. Brother, I've cleared out Valbury so many times now, I gotta see something new. The Shattered Realm shit getes boring fast when the higher tiers bloat the enemy numbers to absurd degrees.

>>717045817
warhammer inquisitor

>get transformed into a spider
>when you get close to objects, put legs on said object
Cute.

>>717060531
It's a terrible game with a very cool customization of techno summons.

>>717047956
>>717048029
Why the fuck does an ARGP need that much level of detail? Even if you can zoom in that close in the game, it serves no purpose. Just put some raunchy scenes like God of War.

>>717060618

>>717060780
Is this a shapeshifting combat skill or a pointless gimmick?

>>717060618
>>717060780
Spiders scare me

I hope there's a way to turn this off

>>717060728
I had fun with it as a 40k fan, but you're right, it's basically shovelware.

>>717061002
It's a gimmick in a side dungeon. You can't open any of the doors as a spider so you have to find a special herb to eat that'll revert you back, so you can fully explore the dungeon.

>>717050745
Early access has complete rotted PCtard brains into putting up with robbery. They'd let you kick them in the dick if you promised it would actually become a better experience in five years.

Hot damn the female witch doctor is hot

I still dont get what the point of flow is

game is full of soul

The boss was fucking awesome.

>>717061449
you talkin bout this UEslop?

>>717062243
Yes. I'll buy two if you don't buy it, nigger.

>>717062356
Be my guest. Not even gonna pirate.

>>717061449
Fuck no it isn't. It's completely soulless

>>717050810
>>717051506
>B-BUT ITS EA
>Give us money and maybe we make you what you want
FUCK

OFF

It's fun, idk why people are complaining.

Hey you guys remember when demos were something developers gave away for free in hopes of you buying the finished product when it comes out? I miss those times. Reminder that you let this happen.

>>717062412
You're just fucking wrong. You can be angry though.

>>717062447
Trannies. They are easy to spot, they just speak in memes they stole from this website.

>>717062709
Stop replying to yourself marketer.

man UE really puts me off from the game

>>717062802
Imagine seething this hard. Your next post is cope.

>>717042303 (OP)
>recommended gpu is a 4070
thats a little high for a game like this isn't it?

>>717060172
>still falling for and getting mad over jakbait after all these years
never change /v/

the game OOZES SOUL
I got up at 6am to play more like a little kid again no idea why people are hating probably poe nignogs

>>717062861
Obvious PoE niggers seething. They get pissy if any ARPG combat isn't instant map clears. They saw the dodge and they started foaming at the mouth.

>>717042303 (OP)
I'm not paying $23 for a game that's even more casual than vampire survivors. Not a valuable use of my time, sorry dood. Back to factorio I go.

>>717060067
>SOVL
Only retards say this unironically. Like the level of retard that should be kept in a human sized hamster cage for their own safety.

takes a little bit to recognize the synergies between skills and masteries
its bretty fun

>>717063324
He said "soul" you retard, you spelt it wrong.

>UE5 stutterslop
Such a fucking shame, game looks neat

>>717064139
This game is running buttery smooth on my 5070, you guys must be using straight potatoes because my rig isn't even all that powerfull.

>>717064242
we aren't upgrading just to play your slop, Todd

>>717064275
>5070
>Upgrade
You're a massive idiot.

>>717042303 (OP)
game just crashed for me the original TQ never crashed for me ever.

At least some day PoE2 will be free
What will TQ2 be?

>never played a PoE, waiting on 2
>decide to play a bit of PoE to see how it feels with a controller since Im not much of a kbm guy
>feels good, like the system, having fun
>don't really want to stop but also dont want to get too invested since Id rather have a relatively "fresh" experience with PoE2, among other various reasons
>but its updating at a snails pace and apparently its currently state is kinda shit
I dont know if I can wait for full release. Does The Last Epoch feel good on a controller?

>>717064553
poo1 and 2 aren't all that similar

>>717050745
The fuck what full game release? It literally says early access everywhere

Is this bait?

>>717064553
I liked it on controller. You're really only gimped with mobility stuff. I stopped playing cause no co-op friends and diablo likes are boring solo

>>717064592
How so?

>>717064552
a fun game

>>717064641
But how much will it cost?

>>717064732
24 eurodollars if you get it now that's about two tabs worth of space if you're planning on playing POE2

>>717064804
Why but it now when it's so barebones and unpolished? At least PoE2 will be free when it's done.

>>717065081
>At least PoE2 will be free when it's done
two more weeks

>>717065182
Why would you doubt that PoE2 won't be finished?

>>717064624
I'll co-op last epoch with you.

>>717065182
Nobody said 2 weeks
It'll be at least 2026 and that's understandable
Give it time for it to be refined and good
And most importantly
Free

So again.
How much will TQ2 cost?

>>717065328
Let's be honest here PoE2 won't be free, you need to buy stash space

>>717064553
PoE2 is not releasing for at least a full year from this post, probably longer. That is unless they force out a half baked "1.0" to make it f2p before it is content complete.
PoE1 is really good and worth playing, though right now it is near the end of the league and everyone is playing the mini-gauntlet event (not for new players, it has retarded modifiers).

With PoE2 the 0.3 update is coming at the end of August, I think. PoE2 is the best playing ARPG with a controller. Next up is D4, honestly, its controller implementation is good. Last Epoch is fine with one too, but crafting sucks with it.
Also Last Epoch is gonna have its new season near the end of August too, they already announced it. You're kind of in between all of the major content updates for these games.
Also, frankly, PoE2 and 1 are so different that I don't think you're gonna not think PoE2 is "Fresh" unless you play like 5k hours of PoE1 somehow.

>>717042303 (OP)
Just did a 100% playthrough and I finished everything in 8 hours. I had expected more like 15 hours or so. So now I gotta wait 3 months for another 8 hours of gameplay, then another 3 months for another 8 hours, etc. until they finish the game and we get some sort of endgame.

Also, what a fucking shitty way to end the current game. Why give your players complete blueballs right as the game and story is getting cool, and you're excited to fight a big bad evil? So stupid.

>>717064624
Why is Diablo 2 the only game to have basic simple room matchmaking?

>>717065328
>How much will TQ2 cost?
two stash tabs right now

>>717062848
works on my nvidia gpu. also its less demanding than poe2.
they also use the latest streamline plugin which makes dlssfg have no latency. ive never had input latency this low. doesnt even feel like frame meme was enabled.

Path of Exile 1 > Diablo 2 > Diablo 1 > Path of Exile 2 > Torchlight 2 > Last Epoch > Grim Dawn > Titan Quest > Nox > Torchlight 1 > Torchlight Infinite > Diablo 3 > Diablo 4 > Victor Vran > Warhammer 40k Inquisitor (or w/e it is called) > Minecraft Dungeons

>it's only 3 hours
Why did /v/ lie to me?

>>717065545
>> Torchlight 2 >
Opinion invalidated, T2 sucks ass.

>>717065545
>PoE2
>Higher than Grim Dawn
>Higher than even TL2

What retard made this?

>>717065642
maybe it is a bit too high cause I modded it a lot.

>>717048841
Unity isn't great for that type of game, either.

>>717065545
diablo immortal had a great opening but the key was to stop playing the game before it introduced you to the p2w gacha rng casino elements. the first hour is better than the #1 game in your list.

>>717042303 (OP)
yeah, my friend bought it for me and i was hype until i realized there was 0 content and they had no features
at least it was on sale

>>717065545
You're missing a bunch of more lesser unknown ARPGs. Please make a new list with these included.
>Marvel Heroes
>FATE
>Wolcen
>Chronicon
>Undecember
>Din's Curse
>Ghostlore
>Hero Siege
>Loki
>Pagan Online
>Slormancer
>Van Helsing
>Warhammer: Chaosbane
>Hell Clock

>>717065765
Can I be real with you? I confused Victor Vran and Van Helsing...

>>717042303 (OP)
I kinda injoyed zooming in tourchlight infinite
>Inb4 shill

>>717065765
Hero Siege is kind of crap, same for Wolcen. Warhammer:Chaosbane had some interesting ideas since it's control scheme feels like it was made with a controller in mind. Which is novel at least, but outside of that there's nothing too unique with it outside of the IP it's attached to.

>>717065671
Imagine thinking anything below it is even playable, this genre really brings out the glue eaters

Bosses that actually have move sets pushes this game into fun tier, imo. They need to get these masteries out ASAP, I need my hunting mastery right the fuck now.

>>717065545
Where the fuck is FATE?

>>717065545
modded D2 is fucking top kino
stuff like pd2 and d2ri absolutely shit on all the rest, you know its true

>>717065682
Unity is even worse than UE5. Probably the worst game engine ever created, or perhaps it's not a game engine at all, but a piece of malware disguised as one. At least I don't remember UE5 trying to burn your GPU while rendering 2d pixel graphics. Shit it's so fucking good that thing has committed a suicide.

>>717066210
Eating glue is playing a game that is designed to waste your time as much as PoE 2.

>slow movement speed
>removed most mobility skills
>removed good loot, have to craft everything
>walk everywhere, in huge maps

yes, my favorite genre. Walking simulator.

Why can't I level this passive past 8? i can level a passive in second tree to 10+?

Warfare + Storm is just bad imo tried to make it work anyone ideas

>>717046431
Last epoch is a snooze fest much like every arpg that took hints from poe

>>717048841
UE is mostly fine if you dont have a potato PC, Unity is fucking dogshit, a poor mans engine created as a joke.

>less expensive than ((ARPGs))
>mogs every ((ARPG)) in the market
>infinite content

>>717066424
Things have completely random caps. Some are 8, some are 10, some are 12. Though the cap always corresponds to the 2nd upgrade slot, so you can see the max level before investing anything.

>>717066576
That's just a Vampire Survivors clone

>>717066590
well thats dumb
thanks

nothing beats a jet2holiday

>>717066576
I have that game too. Honestly...it all just means nothing at the end of the day. It's just number go up.

>>717051252
It does play really well, there are servers without pvp if you don't like it. I can honestly recommend it, the bosses are so great and the base building is fun, but yeah it plays more like victor vran or something than a regular arpg.

>>717065765
>Marvel Heroes

This one was by far my absolute favorite besides Diablo 2 and Titan Quest. I fucking miss it so much. No other game in this genre had that much gameplay and build variety.

In the early access text it said that EA will last 1 year, pic related

>>717066375
Is zoomie 1 second screen clearing the only reason people play PoE? I was thinking of getting into it but it seems like its only for people who have adhd.

>>717045920
Good shit. These were my favorites back when I used to bother with these clickanlootan games. Even as a kid I understood handcrafted levels are more interesting than randomly generated slop.

>>717065563
Why did you seek facts and/or opinions from a place on the internet known to be full of anonymous, asshurt contrarians who suffer no repercussions for being wrong?

>>717066690
darling hold my hand!

>>717067380
:3

>>717066818
Yeah, 1 year, with the caveat that "it's done when it's done". They intend to lazily drag this out for 2-3 years minimum. And are delusional enough to think it will be worth $60 at 1.0

>>717050239
>always online
lol ok

>>717046013
The sanctity of this game has been fouled.

new peak already game is going to moon

>>717067826
i actually liked it because i had a lot of normie friends and i could talk to them while playing. always online is some fucking bullshit thoughst.

>>717067110
Okay grandpa, time to go back to the home. You've had all your exercise for the day. We all know how cranky you get when asked to type more than 5 words a minute.

>>717046182
uwu

>>717045049
How come modders didn't make custom maps and stories? It came out in the golden age when people were doing that for fun.

>>717068181
hope you keep that energy when its you making those posts lol dudes retiring from pvp games due to reflexes sucking 35ish is some sad shit or using VATS in Fallout lol again

nice fomo bait

>>717061251
proof?

>>717068181
Sounds like Im right.

>>717064536
Must have not played it a lot then.

>>717065328
>How much will TQ2 cost?
That's the trouble with 'free' games; there's no limit to how much you can sink into it. The stash tabs alone- an essential bit of QoL- might set you back as much as a full-priced release.

>>717042303 (OP)
It's early access. But is it pozzed like most embracer group games lately?

>just bought PoE2 key second-hand for cheap because I just assumed it would come with the 300 points
>it doesn't

>>717068747
control f "woke"

>>717068747
Male & female options are referred to as 'Masculine' and 'Feminine'- so it's not as egregious as Body Type 1 or Body Type 2- but the worst thing at the moment is the forum: it's like a little third reich.

Is there any particular setting I can turn off to fix the framerate? Namely, whenever I use any blink skills, the frame dips to 20-30 for a split second before going back to 60.
I played Wuchang recently, which is another UEslop, and I didn't have frame dips at all
(16 GB VRAM).

>Game feels sluggish as shit with framerates in the mid 40s with everything set to low on a 7900xtx
Cool game. Skills feel like shit too its not just the framerate, the game's just no responsive at all. Tree is also way too restrictive and the modifiers feel like a crappy implement of what last epoch did. A bunch of skills at the start that are meant to synergize with mark and flow, but I can't see any way to generate those until later on.

>>717069280
Shadows, global illumination and reflections can be extreme hogs. But if it's mainly when you blink, then try effects/post processing/animation quality.

Also, use DLSS on Performance if you have a card that can use it.

>>717069550
you can generate flow with basic attacks in your 'core' skills, with some investment.

It plays like ass, 2 classes

This is just... bad

>>717069554
It fluctuates, I tried to reproduce it several times, doesn't seem consistent. It might be that whenever I blinked, the pack of monsters would also cast their stuff, which might add extra particles in the mix. Will check, thanks.

>>717069051
You wanna add a little detail to that statement?

>>717068747
Character creator has a "masculine" and "feminine" option, and it lets you make poo skins. So skip it.

>>717069707
one of the moderators, Zyddie, clearly thinks the way to foster a healthy community is to delete critical feedback.

>>717043024
why do devs keep using UE5 instead of 4 despite everyone complaining about it? is it difficult to switch over from 5 to 4 mid development?

>>717069794
I'm curious what this 'critical feedback' entails.

>>717054221
>a lot of devs still using unity though
Real devs, or one guy in a basement, making psychological PS1 styles horror? Because if the latter, they're neither aware about the whole shitstorm, nor would ever reach sales required to get into the slavery by unity. Plus I can see some midsize developers who started projects before the unity stunt and now just can't swap engines easily. Some do, Road to Vostok dev guy switched to Godot. Took him 3 months of work, and even if some teams have know-hows, they're likely can't afford 3 months detour.

>>717069798
Why do devs make games for PS5 when everyone liked the PS2 more?! Are they stupid?!

>>717069940
that argument makes no sense

>>717042303 (OP)
>he fell for poe2
>now he fell again

>>717042303 (OP)
What the shit are they thinking releasing EA before 0.5 ... v0.1 released is an abysmal decision.
I'll wait for them to cook, the first one & its remaster are pure kino.

>>717069648
>2 classes
u wot m8. There's at least 5 official classes.
>Rogue + Earth = Ashstalker
>Storm + Earth = Elementalist
>Warfare + Earth = Battlemage
>Warfare + Rogue = Reaver
>Warfare + Storm = Tempest

>>717045049
I actually like women, so no.

>>717069880
Do you think a toxically positive fanboy who doesn't own the early access build should be prioritised over a critical paying customer?

>>717070038
What about Storm+Rogue?

>>717045314
fissure itself can carry you to hell

>>717070086
All I said is I'd like to see said critical feedback.

>>717045314
Druid is fine in D2R, even summons are decent.

>>717070094
I don't know if that combination has an official name in the game yet.

>>717070141
It got deleted.

>>717045817
Nox

Okay, but can someone convince me to buy this from a GOONER perspective?

sexy graph

>>717069710
greeks are pooskinned

>>717060739
you gay or something?

>>717070038
Someone explain to me how warfare + storm is feasible you go spear or something but they you gotta stat dump agi

>>717060739
>serves no purpose
clearly it does because anon is looking for it and enjoys it looking at it.

The one thing that they are fucking up on is the seamless caves for each dungeon. They do pull it off sometimes but not like classic TQ. That shit was buggy as fuck too.

ue5 is not only a runtime game engine but a framework for development workflows and production pipelines
large game companies are converging on a few engines because it allows them to outsource parts of the game to different studios or contractors and they are all trained in the same engine and agree on some basic underlying assumptions
people just don't realize how insanely complicated development is and there is an earth moving level of effort into streamlining it to reduce time and costs
this is why all user interfaces, quest design, writing, and mechanics all feel very similar across so many modern games
its the same studios and contractors doing the same job over and over again

mmmf botiful my love

>>717070289
I'm doing a ranged Warfare + Storm and it's working well.

>>717070094
Stormblade. Playing one right now.

>>717070417
PEAK

>>717070417
I miss her...

>>717070228
No doubt, LORD or MADAO, whichever you are. Surely you could type here what your criticism was.

>>717042303 (OP)
wait...its out?????

Geez, what kind of monster rig do I need for it to not dip below 50 FPS on Medium in the middle of battle, I currently run on an AMD Ryzen 5 7600, 32 GB RAM, Radeon RX 7700 XT 16 GB.
I've played several UE5 games recently that rarely, if ever dipped below 60, even on max details.

>>717070553
Early Access but yes.

>>717070589
cringe
is it at least offline?

>>717070538
Son of a bitch.
Fine then, you little faggot: Toxic positivity is an AWFUL influence on early access games, and this Masculine/Feminine shit? Stop it! It's retarded!

>>717070289
Why would going agi be a problem? You scale both lightning and pierce and I'm guessing that the Storm damage aura can modify all of you weapon damage to lightning or pierce. Warfare has passives for increased proj/weapon damage which should scale your lightning bolt.
Warfare also gets you leap and a damage resistance debuff.

>>717070081
Sorry to hear that.

>>717070554

>>717070679
I mean this genuinely: don't speak outside of /v/ as if you were on /v/. I don't even disagree with your statement but you're supposed to be more cordial.

>>717070554
>Radeon RX 7700 XT 16 GB
Dude...

>>717070879
Call me autistic if you want but I find it difficult to not be 100% honest to the point of brutality all the time.

If there's a dev lurking, this game needs an option to rescale UI/HUD/Text to something bigger/smaller. My eyes are hurting.
also make the info box for items toggleable on/off without having to go to the options menu

>>717070903
It's a solid card, better than whatever nvidia released in recent years.

>>717070934
That's not autistic anon. Tons of autistic people are capable of learning how to act normal.
That's just retarded.

>>717070554
I have the same card and ran Wuchang on max details, no frame drops.
For TQ you need to turn on upscaling (FSR3 on 1.5x did the trick for me, have solid 60 on max)

>>717071117
Fine then. I'm retarded. I still don't intend to change my ways.

>>717070934
Be that as it may, in the end all you do is hurt your own side. People automatically think you're trolling or, on Steam, do that jester shit and dismiss your points, valid or otherwise.

Did I not get this right, bring a turtle to the altar and kill it?

Worked for me. Did the Brazier glow when you got the turtle close to it?

>>717071764
It didn't. Guess I did something wrong, will try again.

>>717071117
Being honest isn’t being retarded, it’s being masculine. Sorry you’ve so internalized the curreny gynocracy that you can’t recognize that.

>>717071850
Being "brutally" honest isn't masculine, it's either a sign that a person hasn't been socialized properly or a cunt whose using his brutal "honesty" to be a cunt.
It's also a sign of low IQ.

>>717072079
Whatever system raised you did you a tremendous disservice.

>>717071850
>>717072162
>neet larping as le sigma male
lol
lmao

>>717069798
5 is easier to work with. Thats it.
The leave the bill to the end user.
>>717069940
Is your mom also your sister?

>>717069613
Thanks. I tried it some more. The 20% chance with up to two checks per second felt kind of shitty even when I also take the flow on dodge. Its as much the unreliability as it is the flakiness of the refresh on kill. Having to use mouse to dodge around while also clicking on the fifteen pixels that are the particular enemy that can be executed with the punishment if you misclick making the skill go on cooldown feels really crappy, thats assuming you even guess the damage vs hp correctly and don't just end up trying to execute and having it do not enough damage anyway.

>>717045817
>Victor Vran
Had such good combat, I don't know why we can't get a game with combat like Victor Vran but being an actual ARPG in terms of build variety.

>>717072272
as long as you can live life with your head held high...

>>717056551
I like how with TAA on the game is an indistinct blurry mess with ghosting out the wazoo but if you turn it off the game looks like minecraft indev before mipmapping was added. Jesus christ.

>>717072773
Have you tried using WASD movement or a pad?

>>717073401
Shit wheres that? I looked through the settings for that when I first booted the game and couldn't find it.

how did they manage to make it even slower than 1? feels like an arpg for people who hate arpgs.

>>717070417
what a qt

>Buy game
>Refund
>Launch game directly through executable
>It works
I am such a dastardly evil mastermind.

>>717070631
it does have offline

>>717073447
On my end it was a prompt right at the start- after character creation if I recall correctly. Can't check this instant 'cos I'm not on my good PC.

>>717073489
It's in line with D2 and TQ1, not modern ARPGs.

>>717073489
It’s even better like this more adventure less click to clear screen I’m impressed how they went about it

>>717073447
>>717073578
>>717073578
Oh shit found it in the options. That feels heaps better.

>>717053983
the thing that happens with game engines is that they are almost never ideal by default for your (or ANY) usecase. yes you avoided having to make your own rendering and all that, now you pay the price by having to wrangle your game to work around this engine that you cannot modify

game engines are a scam, I bet the cut they take is bigger than what it would have cost to make in-house engine

>>717073550
NINTENDO, ARREST THIS EVIL GENIUS

>>717065545
Torchlight Infinite is pretty cool
it's pay2win gacha bullshit for sure but if you completely ignore that it's actually pretty fun for a while

>>717073701
Commercial game engines allow subpar devs to do more for less money and deliver a shittier product.

>>717073701
Aside from the cost, they don't have the talent on hand to pull that off

>>717045558
Diablo 1 is the best diablo for me, the atmosphere is just peak.

bros is this game fucking shit or not man, no clear opinions and fuck trusting youtuber shills

>>717042303 (OP)
>early access

>>717042303 (OP)
I am not giving a company as shit as thq nordic my money. Simple as.

>>717074519
most steam reviews are positive, biggest complaints i've seen are poor performance and running out of content too fast

TQ2 Calculator when?

>>717074519
It's not so great right now. It has potential, for sure, but whether that potential will be realised is a different matter.
I like how each active and passive skill can be slotted with different mods, and WASD movement is so much more comfortable than clicking to do it all- but the technical performance is pretty shabby.

>>717065545
>getting filtered by Minecraft Dungeons
Game too hard for you, sweetie?
PS: Dash Hop Thunder builds is the most fun

>>717074750
whomst asked

>>717074673
keep in mind a lot of them have a monetary gain to say such things
>>717074519
game is not even close to being a finished product if you have even the lowest of expectations

>>717066364
Cap the fps, retard.

>>717074817
yes i'm sure those two dozen dad gamers are all paid shills

>>717074885
positing review = shill
negative review = truth
simple as

>>717074885
they all loved a paid game that isnt even completed yet. its on you if you think thats a realistic review.

>>717074943
But what if the negative reviews are from shills for other games?

>>717075003
It's way to fucking early in the morning for this level of stupidity.

>>717070417
>went from qt3.14 in TQ to autistic goblina in GD
What the FUCK were they THINKING?

>50% more Critical Hit Chance
>30% increased Critical Hit Chance with Weapon Attacks

Did they just straight up copy PoE's Increased/More distinction?

>>717057780
What I like most of these genres that are on the right half?

>>717042303 (OP)
Well it feels like titan quest but very bare bones and runs kinda bad. No reason to buy it now.

>>717075194
Still cute.

>>717070978
Can't you disable blue armor?

>>717075113
buy the game then. tell me im wrong afterwards. we all need some good laughs.

>>717075804
Those are some big booba

>>717073550
>buy game
you are not a mastermind
it's already on trackers

>diablo 1
>played to death

>diablo 2
>played to death

>diablo 3
>played to death

>diablo 4
>finished once, its fucking shit

>torchlight 1
>played to death

>torchlight 2
>played to death

>torchlight 3:
>absolute trash

>poe1
>played to death

>poe2
>played a ton, but needs more work

>tq1, grim dawn, wolcen, undecember, last epoch
>played to death

>tq2
>ok but no content

what do ARPG bros?

>ue5 sucks
>unity sucks
TQ2 and LE look and run fine for me. and i only got a old lame 4080s.

why are you guys so poor

>>717076590
There's Sacred 1 and 2, but they are a bit weird.

>>717076590
play necromancer classes and keep playing these games after death

Finished with +1 area/monster level as earth/storm
Pretty fun game but it's very basic. Everything from stats to build/mastery customization is even more basic than diablo 3/4

>>717076974
excited for necromancer update in LE next season

>>717054084
>decimal time
Wow... is gabe... baste?

>>717069940
so true king
graphics should have stopped improving with the PS2 you dont need better graphics

>>717076590
dungeon siege 2

looooook

Gear is literally Diablo 3 and 4 levels, completely soulless. Masteries are also way too shallow, why the hell are there like 6 active skills per mastery? It's not 2004

>>717077783
I wonder if the legendaries are still just statsticks, or did they adapt to modern times and gave them special effects.

>>717076738
you've been baiting for the entire thread and are overdue a response
kill yourself

>>717078241
that was my first post in this thread tho. and this is my third. nice try schizo. get a job or something

>>717062512
We've actually gone back to those times but AA/AAA didn't get the message.

>>717068298
Literally not FOMO. You're not missing any content, you're just paying more for buying later. Before spouting bullshit and throwing terms around maybe google what those terms mean.

>>717078430
half true, but dont forget the
>fear of missing out, on early shitposting

>>717070038
Now which of these combos are actually good and not afterthoughts?rhkmx

So it's Diablo IV 2?

>>717078747
Its Titan Quest 2 (ea)

>>717078747
no it's titan quest 2 but no content

>>717065682
Only thing Unity isn't great for is large world games with huge distances since it's floating point based coordinate system can't really handle them.

With procedural levels the problem is handling lighting but that's a problem with UE5 too and UE5 is much shittier for procedural levels in other ways. Though I think TQ2 uses fixed levels?

>>717066364
I see retarded statements like this so often. You don't understand how a GPU is supposed to operate. It is supposed to give you as many frames as it can. It means it will run at 99% if it isn't being held back by the rest of the system or the game itself. If you don't like it limit your fps. Good devs give you the option to limit.

Retarded decisions by Unity's company doesn't make the engine bad. Now it's not perfect but it is much better than Unreal when it comes to making nice looking games that run well.

>>717043024
Is UE5 really that bad, or is this one lone schitzo terminally on 4Chums trying to force it?

>>717075804
Is that modded? If not then which classes use those armors?

>>717078934
there are some really bad running ue5 games. but also some that run just fine and look good, on decent hardware tho, not on ancient trash systems
i didnt play very long last night but it was fine for me

>>717069554
>DLSS on Performance
makes the game look like vaseline smeared on my screen

>>717070130
Fissure does no damage on hell

>>717070173
Summons run out of damage at the end of normal

>>717070405
It's also why so many games suck. Studios are using turd world labor to save on costs and turdies can't make anything good.

There's also the whole issue with Unreal's ridiculous renderer that makes every game made with it look like shit.

>>717070978
I got like one item from that chest. What the fuck.

>>717078993
I can't blame devs for not wanting to optimize a new game for a 1050ti, times change, technology improves....but if a game runs bad on a newer system, that doesn't mean the engine is bad - it means the devs don't know how to optimize for it.

>>717050178
Fire Druid is such a cool concept, why is it not a playstyle in games? Even WoW has Fire Druids in lore but the player can't be one.

>>717073550
>>717075868
no DRM whatsoever is pretty based for current year

>>717079225
>but if a game runs bad on a newer system, that doesn't mean the engine is bad - it means the devs don't know how to optimize for it.
very true. many devs nowadays are lazy or bad.
even with my old 2060 there were games running pretty good still, if the devs didnt suck.

>>717079226
Earth in TQ2 is fire Druid

>>717079097
Druid's summons are very strong on nightmare, the difference is that they easily faceroll through most of players 8 on normal.

>>717079423
Based, I would play but I want to finish TQ1 first

>>717042303 (OP)
This has zero connection to the original Titan Quest other than the name, so why would I give a single fuck about it?

>>717078747
no it's not like diablo 4

>>717079479
all the portal stations have Order of Prometheus icons on them

>>717078958
That's just the Illusionist from AoM with stuff from Loyalty Pack 2 and 3.

>>717042303 (OP)
wait it's out?

>>717042303 (OP)
Yeah, it's EA what did you expect?

>>717079668
no, its ea with very little stuff

>>717079668
Early Access

>>717079434
I guess if "very strong" and "easily faceroll" means painfully slowly crawling through the game

imagine paying for the privilege of beta testing a product
they aren't some small team of indie devs

they can suck my big fat cock

>>717079668
they shadowdropped it with some thqnordic stream

>>717079813
I remember 17 years ago when I finished highschool and got my first job as QA tester. Boss told us we "should be happy for being paid to test, as in the future, people will instead pay to test".
We laughed, but boy did the future turn out grim.

>>717048456
It's the same as Torchlight, though at least TQ2 is developed by Germans and not soulless chinkoids.

but i bought the game for 23 bucks instead of 50
dont give a shit about "testing"

price fuckery is gay too, but 23 aint bad

>>717079707
>>717079696
oh that's fine I can wait

>>717045076
>it's ok when GGG does it