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Is this what gamers really want?
>>717077906 (OP)Vtubers has to be one of the biggest โIโm getting too old for this shitโ moments for me. To think, thereโs an entire board on here made up of those subhumans.
>>717078002>To think, thereโs an entire board on here made up of those subhumans.before the hack there was an argument for it being (almost) the most popular board but then half of them left to their own alt-chan because of shit moderation and now its slowly dying
>>717078138>now its slowly dyingI love a happy ending.
>>717077906 (OP)I don't mind as long as it's not completely out of place.
>>717078269oh dont worry, the same fags that shitposted the board to death were just /v/ermin looking for a new console war, since they have no one to annoy they will just come here and be more overt
>>717078138i can only imagine it's because mods let the mentally ill run rampant and constantly shitpost and reply to themselves so the actual vtuber fans left.
>>717078457from when 4chan was down
>>717078307how is it not completely out of place, especially in ds2 where she's part of the main story
>>717078475>>717078457during april fools when hlgg was on /bant/
>>717078002That forum is dead since the cancer left for another site, they were always a Reddit enclave who hated 4chan culture
>>717077906 (OP)this only worked because it was Kojima.
because he wholesomely just thought it was neat after watching her play the first game and invited her to cameo.
because it fits the surrealness of Kojima games and their humor
Sam running around saying "peko" is pure ludo, just thinking about him making Norman voice all those is silly enough to make it funny. I hate vtubers but I thought it was funny for Sam to have his oshi or whatever while he goes around delivering pizzas.
>>717078610mad cause banned
>>717077906 (OP)I haven't played anything from Kojima since he left Konami lol
>>717077906 (OP)Vtubing is an ever evolving parasite. First it feeds off autistic lonely men and now it's feeding on cultural cache from any and every IP known to man. Why can't they make and fund their own media instead of operating like a gigantic grifter machine.
I'll fucking take it over face scanned celebs and nogs any day.
>>717078810You need to go back
>>717078610Got it backwards but I think you knew that already and you're just mad that you got banned for being incapable of talking about the thing the board is for.
>>717077906 (OP)Yes.
And I am glad it's smoking out the nu-fag normalhomos from the hobby, internets, and even /v/. The seethe of tourists is sublime.
I watch 6+ hours every single day of vtubers and even I don't want them in my videogames.
Also I got banned from several twitch channels because I was very charismatic and funny in the chat and streamers always read out my messages, so users and moderators who basically act as beta paypig slaves started shit with me in discord and used that as an excuse to get me banned on the actual twitch chat.
Jokes on them, I'm still as charismatic as ever and I no longer buy subs for those vtubers I was banned from, enjoy having no money from me you virgin losers.
I'll take vtubers over shit like aidshunter getting face scanned into my games.
We already have out-of-place e-celebs in games. We really don't need more. Just make your own game at this point.
>>717078810You don't need to do much to get banned on /vt/. I've gotten banned for posting cosplay, no it wasn't the Fubuki one. They're looking for reasons to ban anyone and it is tiring. Worst moderation from the boards I browse.
>>717079268>Just make your own game at this point.why would they, when others are coming to them begging for the authorization to use the characters in their games?
>>717079486not banned from /vt/, banned from the other place
he's seething about it being 'reddit' because he gets capped there for being a retard
>>717079486if youre not fostering a trans friendly environment on /vt/ you deserve to be banned from /vt/
>>717077906 (OP)Yes as long as it's JPs
ENs are talentless hacks
>>717079486mods want /vt/ to be dogshit which is why they would ban you for reporting the obvious samefag posting on cooldown for 8 hours every day but let him keep going on a mentally ill breakdown every day for 2 years. it's only improved recently because everybody fucked off so he doesn't get attention anymore and gave up posting. it's sort of a mystery that they even made the board in the first place.
>>717078002>subhumanThat's what your parents said about you once you got into videogames.
>>717079692there's a really big and obvious hint as to why /vt/ is the way it is
>>717079004Please, you have to fuck off to your corporate fan site instead of shitting up video game boards on 4chan. If you actually enjoyed chatting to redditors and women you'd be there instead of here trying to start a conversation with people who think Vtubers are gay.
>>717079818don't care tranny
Why do people pretend vtubers are different in any meaningful way from normal streamers?
>>717079747You literally give money to men (or fat ugly whores) pretending to be little chinese cartoon girls bro. You donโt get to have the high ground here. Someone playing video games in their spare time is still a chad compared to you.
>>717079852Then stop trying to start a conversation with me over your boring board wars. Nobody cares about vt or any of the cancer sub forums it spawned, it's all gay Reddit shit.
>>717079887Theyโre both cancer and you should be killed if youโve ever given money to either one.
>>717078970>eceleb :(>eceleb, japan :)
>>717079976>actually if you don't mind I post on /v/ to be aloneretard
>>717079887vtubers are part of a company.
streamers are usually by themselves unless they get giga huge like asmongold turning into a brand
>>717079887Why do people pretend that Nintendo is different from any game developer? Because the fanbase is hyper autistic and annoying as fuck.
>>717080008but if i donate maybe one or 2 more times im sure she will have sex with me out of gratitude :(
>>717080032don't care tranny
>>717078606>indians, sea, israelisi'm very shocked
French vtubers?
files.catbox.moe/ricbw1.mp4
>>717080149Shut up Saruei.
>>717077906 (OP)How did this piece of shit get a sequel?
How does Hackdeo Kojima still have a job?
>>717080240Sold decently.
>>717077906 (OP)Can someone explain to me all the /vt/ hate here? I know they are off-topic posters but so is 90% of this board.
>>717077906 (OP)3DPD will NEVER be anime
>>717080340imagine console war garbage, but instead of 3 different consoles it's 300 different anime.png
>>717077906 (OP)Yes. Vtubers are based and only trannies think otherwise
>>717077906 (OP)>KoroGOD gets in Doom and Sonic>uupe gets Kojimbo slopVtubers are a goldmine for video games because they're cute anime girls with lore, running gags and favorite games of their own. It makes it super easy to build a toolkit around them. At least the post-Fubuki corporate ones. Most older corporate vtubers are just high school girls and and most indies are pink cats and they tend to not even give a shit about video games.
>>717080723Vtubers have always been our thing chuddy.
>>717080340It's literally an e-celeb gossip forum which is disgusting on its own but it's 10x more cancerous because it's dedicated to autistic simping. Ontop of that it was the unofficial home for discussing an entire subculture which meant it was also home to endless Reddit tourists. It's everything /v/ hates about its own forum but hyper condensed.
>>717080340Some people just hate fun.
>>717078002Yeah, can you believe they aren't using their real faces to stream? Not even their real names. What's up with that, anonymous?
You are getting so old that your crusty brain ins't working anymore, retard.
>>717079671Calm down Pippa.
>>717080037Why do you have strong opinions on things you know nothing about?
>>717080986Based zoomers financing my background noise.
Realistically, how long until there is a super smash brothers like games based on vtubers? wouldnt that shit make trillions?
>>717077906 (OP)Absolutely fucking not. Simp culture and parasocial culture have taken over and I fucking hate it.
>>717079586Vtubers are surrounded by inherently toxic audiences so having a genuine personality or thought is frowned upon.
If you aren't spouting trans rights and virtue signalling every second you're a bigot and racist and must be exiled from the discord.
I'll take vtubers over ewhores. It at least has the illusion of being more healthy. Total ewhore death.
>>717080340Being a casual fan of certain Vtubers and trying to discuss it on vt or any of its child forums is like being a fan of evangelion and going into a gay bar full of cosplaying men jerking off to k-on characters. This is probably why they keep starting Vtuber threads here.
>>717081460Theyre literally the same thing.
>>717077906 (OP)>Anime girlsThe word you're looking for is animecoded streamers.
>>717081503NTA, but I think a lot of Vtuber designs are nicer to look at than overly made up egirls.
>>717081460Or you could have an ounce of self respect, idk.
Any fears I ever had of being autistic disappeared whenever I watch clips of vtubers. It blows my mind that anyone my age, even older, are watching this shit. To each their own but it really feels like autistic people completely giving up and regressing to the point where they're watching shit for 3 year olds. The "best of" clips I see of vtubers are on the same level as Spiderman and Elsa in GTA slop for children.
>>717081554dont be transphobic..
>>717078002I'm not old, this shit is just retarded eceleb faggotry, every single one involved in this shit shoud be sent to the gulag
>>717078002Same. I think it's the only option for the women to actually be respected for their gameplay desu.
>>717080340They are extremely LGBT and do shit like
>>717080149
>>717078970>>717079085I'm so tired of these two hoes being pushed everywhere. They're just a bit more popular than the rest but they take 99% of the jobs
>>717081892Broadly true of English Vtubers, some of the Japanese Vtubers are funnier than male streamers who are supposed to be entertaining so if you're going to waste time and watch someone stream a game I'd understand why some would watch a jpeg do it instead.
It made sense as a /jp/ subculture of people trying to learn Japanese, what it became makes no sense to me.
>>717082107>They're just a bit more popularPeko's literally like top-3 most popular female streamers in the world.
Not just v-toobs, but ALL female streamers.
>at least vtubers are better than... um... niggers!!!!
>only TRANNIES hate vtubers!!!
who are you fucking kidding?
jesus christ the fucking cope ITT from these nohopers
>>717078514Like 98% of human interaction in death stranding is weird shut-ins live streaming a hologram even when you knock on their door. It's probably the most plausible setting for a vtuber to show up.
>>717080340It's because pepe and wojaks are banned on /vt/ and that's the only thing /v/tards know how to post
>>717080340Go to the board and open the numbermonkey general(just a 3rd holofag general really) named /#/ and report back.
Do you think anyone of those things are people and deserve to exist?
Hey guys just posting from my crib where I regularly shit my diapers. Say what you want about shitting your diapers but it's preferable to ethots and nignogs. The best part of shitting your diapers while in your crib? It makes trannies seethe.
I think we can all agree now that shitting your diapers in a giant crib is actually quite based.
>>717079486what fubuki one?
>>717082587Vt literally has corporate console war threads and endless shitposting about charts and numbers, it's exactly the same as /v/ except the subject matter is so fucking meaningless and trivial it is fueled by pure autism.
>>717080037Bro most of big streamers including the asmongold are part of the same company, they just don't talk about it because their CEO is an ex-glownigger.
>>717077906 (OP)yes, and the hololive girls are bigger gamers than most of /v/
>>717083072what the fuck are they doing
>>717081075Platform fighters don't have a good track record. There is a Hololive fighting game but it was kind of just a temporary novelty game. The Vampire Survivors clone is super popular, though.
I've never looked at /vt/ before and I can't believe I'm saying this but the catalog might be even more aspie than /mlp/
>you just hate fun!
>this is the "fun" >>>/vt/102962339
all these posters are over 18
>>717077906 (OP)Only brownoid tranny losers like vtumors.
They should Fuwamoco to a hyper realistic military sim FPS.
>>717078307I want it to be as out of place as possible, I want the Last of Us II: Reloaded to have a cel-shaded model accurate Korone to talk Ellie out of killing Abby, and then steal her finger.
>>717080340Imagine if the fastest thread on /vg/ was a sales speculation general.
>>717079486>cosplayer simpDeserved ban desu
>>717080240Press right trigger and left trigger at the same time to balance your big backpack anon, or you will fall over. Now run!
10/10.
>>717077906 (OP)>anime girlsyes
>vtumorsno
>>717083072>thinking that video games are a meaningful subject kek
can they put noel and her fat tits in the next soul calibur?
>>717077906 (OP)Pekora is boring, but if I heard AJIMARU AJIMARU when starting the game or going on a quest I would buy death stranding
>>717078610>4chan cultureYou mean wojaks, twitter threads, and /pol/? Honestly, I don't blame them for hating it.
>>717078457If you paid attention to the leaks after the hack, you'd understand why a lot of people would want to leave.
>>717077906 (OP)I thought it was funny because it's Kojima. I'll be pissed at any one else that tries it, other than Sam Lake.
>>717078610>4chan cultureNo such thing in gookmoot era.
>>717077906 (OP)You know, putting vtubers in futuristic games is an interesting idea, as long as you keep their avatar as a virtual construct in-universe, either piloted from elsewhere or serving as a body for a brain-in-a-box.
>>717085128>I hate Bugs, but I love DaffyPekora is basically Subaru's oshi.
>>717077906 (OP)Imagine Chibidoki...
>>717077906 (OP)The japanese ones
English ones are just e-whores and grifters that jumped on the hype train
>>717086105I dont hate Pekora I just think she's overrated. Subaru works well with anyone, Chained Together wit EM is classic.
>>717078002it's more of a "I'm too White for this shit"
>>717077906 (OP)i don't really give a shit about vtubers and think they are entertainment for retards but if some people enjoy them making cameos in games then i'm fine with it. i don't care about them one bit but don't really have any reason to want to take away something others enjoy if it doesn't affect my own enjoyment too much
>>717078457People shouldโve known by now those are the jannies themselves
sooner or later this will lead to some publishing rights issues due to ip right conflict.
like game rereleases having to remove music due to not having licenses for the original soundtrack or some games not being for sale anymore because they had the rights to use some third party shit in their initial release but would have to renegotiate and pay again for every subsequent release or remaster.
if the vtuber has retired then hololive would probably just say no to everything containing references to such vtubers.
>>717083072I would take console war shit flinging over endless twitter and eceleb threads
>>717077906 (OP)I will never complain about cute anime girls in my video games.
>>717087259it's 3dpd wearing an anime mask
>>717077906 (OP)>vtuber>"anime girls"
>>7170873542d girls are all voiced by 3dpd anyways.
>>717085128Based
>>717086105Nah they're bros/rivals/married
>>717077906 (OP)I want a game where I can impregnate the funny/cute duck
>>717086695Twitch is full of camwhores and low IQ dudebros, but you think cute anime girls is for retards.
>>717087473They actually barely interact, but Subaru has said before she loves watching Pekora (everyone does) and her "shuba shuba" is just a ripoff of "peko peko".
>>717087907Shubaru hasn't shuba'd seriously in years...
And she's already claimed to be a Robosa
>>717085575transphobia is not cool, keep that out of vtuber threads
>>717079486Try being a RWBY Chad on /co/
>>717088126You'd need to be a battery to stay awake through 5 minutes of Roboco talking lol
>>717087907i think they both are for tards
>>717078138how can "slowly" be changed into "quickly"?
>>717084724At least a quarter of /v/ is vidya industry metrics threads.
>>717077906 (OP)wait a minute... I don't buy or care about games with trannies.
>>717077906 (OP)Can't wait for vtubers to replaced by their ai approximation.
a rather old meme, updated for current times
>>717077906 (OP)I'd rather have vtubers than niggers and debra wilson in every game, sadly DS2 gets both.
Korone playing Elden Ring:
>Body A or B? Ah, you mean a guy or a girl
>>717088141Fuck you, transphobia is literally the coolest. Don't associate vtubers with those freaks. They're trying to sneak into cute anime girl areas just like they try to sneak into little girl restrooms.
>>717080340/vt/ is one of the worst boards in the whole site, even worse than /x/, even worse than /pol/, even worse than /r9k/.
It's moderation is not only non existent, but you also get banned yourself if you try to report anything, lunatics run rampant there with no way of stopping them like if it was a Mad Max wasteland, and a lot of threads are just 3rd worlders shitting all on each other because their PNG is better than the other PNGs or whatever retarded spiel they came up with that day.
t. A /vt/ hostage because they host the only thread in all of the internet of its type, even if 80% of the posts are some sort of schizobabble.
>>717077906 (OP)I've never watched one before personally.
>>717089263I'm simultaneously at the top and at the bottom
>>717077906 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNhqtZhM3z0
>>717078002Same, it's the first time I felt something was positively a zoomer thing and not for me.
>>717078002I'm White, employed, healthy, tall, handsome and not a pussy repellent fuck up so I never saw the appeal of vtumors or onlyfags. I hope anyone who ever paid those whores gets eaten by an escalator china style.
>>717080916Is this really what 3dpdfags want?
>>717087907>Twitch is full of camwhores and low IQ dudebros, but you think cute anime girls is for retards.You keep trying this tactic and it's not going to work
>>717082858>>717082858>>717082858
>>717077906 (OP)Nevermind it's a vtuber, cross-promoting a game with a streamer is just turbo cringe in general.
>>717078002Same
Vtcuber e-celeb bullshit is for loser brownoids and chinks
>>717082520Except she talks like a retarded vtubber so it is out of place for a post apocalyptic world
>>717077906 (OP)No cause vtuber are soulless as fuck, especially vtuber corpos. If every other youtbe company was mocked and shit on relentlessly like rooster teeth and machinima idk why vtuber corpos get priced by subhuman like they're any less of a joke, hell the people running those things are bigger sacks of shit than NY normal youtube company, hololive alone hires 7nderage girls and gives them porn art tags, fired and underage chick for not having sex with her manager, and even told one of its members to fuck herself and let it happen when her manager stalked and sexually harassed her, and that's not even all the dogshit they do. Vtubing past the kizuna ai days if fucking awful.
>>717089276I think the debra wilson thing is kinda funny at this point
>>717084889Talking about videogames vs talking about watching another person play videogames. If you can't see that it is a whole level of abstraction and triviality below what was already a trivial subject matter then you are retarded.
>vtumors
>anime
I even like some of their designs, but streamer culture in general is pure cancer. I would watch them if they made regular videos about something interesting, but I'm not wasting my time watching someone play vidya when I could be playing vidya myself or doing anything else.
>>717090000>You keep trying this tacticAs evidenced by the 0 other posts I've made saying that. Also, what tactic are you referring to? That camwhores and Jerma are for retards? That's not a tactic, that's just the obvious.
>it's not going to workThe only thing it could "work" on is making you feel ashamed for thinking a geek thing is for idiots while ignoring the fact the rest of the Internet is full of mouthbreaing normalfags. If you don't feel ashamed, that's fine. Go back to being a faggot.
>>717089403jokes on you chuddy, vtubers have always been transcore
>>717077906 (OP)No.
Streamers shouldn't be in games, it just takes you out of the experience.
>>717077906 (OP)Based, Pekora won
>>717077906 (OP)They have to be careful that they arent participating in sampling bias.
You can be involved in a community centered around a particular subject, and when something happens with that topic/subject, "everyone" will be talking about it and it will be the "biggest news"... In reality it is only because you are only interacting with that particular community about it, the larger population that isnt actively involved with it doesnt care or may even have a different opinion about it upon review.
If you ask vtuber fans whether they would like vtubers in games, and only get opinions from people that engage with that media, then that's sampling bias. When releasing something that is supposed to appeal to the largest possible audience, I dont think it will work. Keep them out of games.
>>717090771No, no. The joke is you, the man in a dress. Cheers, dude. Don't go hangin' yourself! Remember they'll put your real name on the headstone.
>>717090678You keep pretending anyone making fun of you for watching this garbage are fans of [other garbage]
>why yes I do play gacha... but at least I'm not playing concord!!!You can't face the facts. You're the one who is watching shit and you can't just keep deflecting by bringing up [other] shit.
>>717078002True. Not the subhumans part, but you're getting too old.
Vtubers are mimicking the trajectory anime, cartoons, games, comics, and manga all did. You even see people who religiously watch flesh streamers trying to say they're better because at least they donate to real people.
Meanwhile "vtubers" are becoming synonymous with "Hololive" since the only group that's popular enough to warrant worldwide attention is Hololive.
>Songs in One Piece?Hololive girl.
>Dante's VA liking someone?Hololive girl.
>Working with Disney?Hololive girl.
>Being in Kojima's game?Hololive girl.
>Working with the Dodgers and another baseball team?Hololive girls.
>Official Sonic ambassador?Hololive girl
etc.
And since Hololive treats vtubers more as "virtual idols" instead of "virtual streamers", they're paid a high salary resulting in these talents not even wanting you to donate. Merch yes, since "you get something out of it", but never pure donations like superchats and never outside of your own means.
If you hate streamers and find vtubing to be a subset of that, that's fine since regardless of what they do, they still end up just streaming (whether it be games, their concerts, their art creation, cooking, gunpla, etc.). If you just hate vtubers but find streamers fine, that's just irony. Hololive (or "vtubers") being in games is nothing new (100% OJ was made by some vtubers now in Hololive) so seeing Kojima's game be a "wake-up" for people is extremely strange.
>>717091282>actually my life is going really well and I'm "with it" because I know all about the hololive business modelhoo boy
>>717091595Who are you quoting?
>>717078002for me it was bronies over a decade ago
>>717091615Sorry to imply your life was good anon, thank you for the correction
>>717077906 (OP)it's fucking cringe like the monster ads, it's basically mutual backscratching (ie the vtubers play death stranding while getting promoted on the game) and for someone as "artistic" as kojima, it's like having streamers doing cameos in scorseses films so they can react to it later
>>717089403>>717090898>vtranny calling anyone else a troonLol
Lmao even
>>717078002KEK this post really riled up the simps
>>717077906 (OP)>like hololive girls and like seeing them in things>like seeing people get so mad at hololive and vtubers in general that they start flailing their arms throwing any insult that comes to mindYup, I'm winning
>>717092023It's just the first post so it's probably the only one people see before hitting End
>>717085035>next soul caliburAnon...
>>717092072It's weird how different things are when you compare Hololive to what people think Hololive is. It reminds me of those Australian? congressmen saying video games lead to murder.
>>717089914>employed This nigger needs to have a job lol
>healthy And everyone else that isn't a fatass
>tallI'm 6'1. You aren't tall unless you're 6'4 at least
>handsomeThat's just genetics, nothing to proud of. I'm also handsome
>not a pussy repellentThat's easy. Just hide your power level
Low level retard
>>717089419Try to convince your thread to move to the tower
>>717077906 (OP)i am brown and i am sea so yes i do want this.
>>717089419When Hololive Global was talking to the meido about /vt/'s creation, they said not to make it unless it's General-only since they knew it'd turn out like this. Unfortunately the meido didn't think the board would be popular without normal threads being ok, resulting in the creation of a non-general /vt/ and Hololive Global remaining as its own thing and aggressively gate-keeping anything that comes from the outside.
vtuber fans are mentally ill
>>717092483More cute retarded girls for me then
>>717092483This is not a vtuber thing it's an idol thing
>>717092483This is not exclusive to vtubers at all, in fact this is a thing that's been around for longer than you have
>>717080916>missing the point this hard
Holy
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>>717078002>3dpd that tricks young innocent men by masking themselfves as a pure 2D waifu to steal your earthly possessions and soul.Granpappy used to call those things succubuses.
I mean, vtubers were in the nintendo direct yesterday
>>717078002I feel that. Watching streamers is already pretty gay, and then they added screechy women pretending to be anime girls and now the cancer has cancer.
>>717092483This is not a vtuber thing but please understand, these women are still mentally ill
They're appearing in your video games.
They're singing in your baseball stadiums.
Women pretending to be anime girls is the future.
I look forward to not reading your manifestos.
>>717092960Sounds like parasitic behavior, typical for a nonwhite like you
>>717092801Watching male streamers is more gay than watching women
Why the fuck do you want to watch a man?
>le entertainment Go watch a movie or if you're really that brain dead at least watch a youtube video that is scripted and we'll edited
>>717092960They're in your walls and interviewing your people!
>>717092212>im brown and a trannyCool story, paypig
>>717093046>retarded that doesn't know his own history White people are some of the biggest conquerors of history. It's the fault of the loser side for being weaker
>>717077906 (OP)>>in your favorite games>>favorite gamesNot so fast, journo
>>717093107lol I bet you play as a girl in games. if you even play games that is. none of you fags even play games you just watch other people play them
Everyone who watches vtumor slop has a 100% chance they watch child porn and/or ERPs with other nonces on discord
>>717092650Still mentally ill
/v/ always struck me as the quintessential /vt/ catalog thread because it never wants to discuss the topics the board is about and if you tried, you'd just get called pol buzzwords to force sides.
>>717078138>and now its slowly dyingGOOD.
>>717093230why the fuck were they allowed to throw al that bullshit into the water
>>717093120These interviews are always hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_z6HmBLV5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxOG32ZqMik
>>717093107Bet you'd like seeing your gf 'play' with other men too
Every time your favorite streamer takes a break she's fucking boyfriend, and you will never fuck her
I dont know. I have a vtuber gimmick myself and it all comes down to how good they can get over with their audience.
I remember this caused a torrential amount of seethe from roasties.
>>717078514>she's part of the main storywhat the fuck? I though she was like a side character of a joke side quest
why are we pushing vtuber cameos into main stories? How does one's immersion not immediately get shattered from this?
>>717093120It's funny, they treat her like a 16 year old kid who's pretending to be interested in their movie when she's over 40 and a massive fan of horror. What makes her able to connect with mentally ill losers makes her completely unapproachable for normal men.
>>717093491Why do you trannies act as if your idols aren't so busted up that they use vrchat avatars to hide the fact?
Fucking simp scum
>>717093538>why are we pushing vtuber cameos into main stories?Because game devs do whatever they want. The reason games are so trash nowadays is exactly because they fear hurting le modern audience and make everything bland
>>717093491I bet at least 60% of them are male, and use the anime face and voice changer to pass as female
>>717093584Why are sharties obsessed with trannies?
>>717093543>normal menImagine wanting to be a "normal man". Take off your balls already. Only fags and women care about others people's opinions
>>717077906 (OP)Why would anyone play a game with such an ugly protagonist.
>>717093647I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. You think it's good that the player has to meet pekora?
>>717093543>normal men>actors and directors??????????
>>717093760NTA but yes. Ironically she's one of the few cameos who fit into the lore of DS
>>717093726>Imagine having a stable career, wife and kidsYeah sorry, I should have been dreaming about being a miserable, lonely neet who wants to kill themselves, being normal is gay and lame.
>>717093584Its just a way for me to connect with my audience while remaining anonymous as theres legions of people stuck in the cel saga who want to legitimately murder me.
>>717093726I can tou're terminally online and undoubtedly brown, how many hours do you ERP with your 'kittens' on your oshi-cord?
>>717081503On the surface sure but I think the shit 3dpd streamers push is much more harmful than vtubers. Whether it be about talking about how many dudes they've been railed by, their boyfriends, shilling their onlyfans, parasocial farming etc while pretending not do any of it/feigning ignorance. JP vtubers at least have to maintain a persona and avoid certain shit due to idol culture and such. I don't know about EN vtubers but I'd assume they're more in line with ewhores. Vtubers as a catch all for all of them is dishonest where as all ewhores are actually the same.
>>717081831True but the viewerbases for female streamers in general are children, lonely men and socially inept people. Expecting some kind of dignity out of them is futile.
>>717093873The normal man is a fat retard that watches sports after working 10 hours while his wife cheats or divorced him
Sorry to break your fantasy
>>717093340As opposed to movie, tv, regular youtube actors/actresses, musicians and every other performer, who is ready and willing to fuck you
>>717094046it's not the 90s anymore. "normal" men smoke weed after work and watch streamers while they masturbate
>>717093967>talking about how many dudes they've been railed by, their boyfriends, shilling their onlyfans, parasocial farming etc while pretending not do any of it/feigning ignorance. JP vtubers at least have to maintain a persona and avoid certain shit due to idol culture and suchOink oink, paypig
>>717094052I'm not a pajeet or seamonkey so I'd rather fuck a roastie on tinder than pau some whore to say my name
>>717093967>Vtubers as a catch all for all of themShit is always weird to see. Like calling all games "applications" and all movies "programs". Technically not wrong but not right since there's thousands of vtubers out there, similar to the amount of normal streamers.
>>717093250All japanese women vtuber fans are mentally ill (affectionate)
>>717094157By normal you mean your discord circle.
>>717094373I've never used discord or watched a streamer in my life
>>717094157literally me except I don't work
>>717094240>I'd rather fuck a roastie on tinder than pau some whore to say my nameThe former is MAGNITUDES more pathetic
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>>717077906 (OP)Cover is a massive company and I'm surprised YAGOO hasn't done more with it yet. The hololive TCG is printing money for them too.
>>717078606why can't the faggot of gookmoot or some of the mods just do the same as catbox and range ban India, Israel and Brazil, the site will improve by a LOT and they will have to do less cleaning
>>717094503fat brown virgin detected
>>717093584>only cares about a woman's looks>calls other simpsIncredible. Why is /v/ full of normalfags? You have other websites, dude.
>>717093684Congratulations, you are on the same intellectual level as Sargon of Akkad.
>>717078138you could never call it popular because 99.9% of posts in it are just one word spam ala twitch chat
even a /v/ post of someone just calling someone a nigger is more worthwhile because someone is actually interacting with another person. when a hundred incels all make a hundred posts saying "PEKO" none of them have any meaning or value. nobody even reads them. they're just there.
>>717094705faggots like you belong on wizardchan. begone.
>>717094716>you could never call it popular because 99.9% of posts in it are just one word spam ala twitch chatThat's just objectively wrong, though I imagine you aren't arguing in good faith anyway
>>717094554They actually aren't that big, I was surprised when I looked into it before, the cost to develop a single AAA videogame is more expensive than their entire yearly revenue.
I was confused why they weren't shitting out atlus tier games and high budget anime.
>>717094879Not making their own game, but doing more to appear in things.
We don't want Cover to make their own game.
In fact we have evidence as to why Cover should never make their own game.
>>717093584Based Chad larper
>>717078002Same. I'm pretty natural at not immediately going full boomer mode at everything. Vtubers though? I can't understand the appeal at all.
>>717077906 (OP)I don't mind and pissing off normalfags is a nice bonus.
>>717081075Smash Bros was lightning in a bottle. There hasn't been a single other developer who has managed to make an even remotely successful game similar to it. Multiversus had hype but the game was doomed from the beginning because of corporate bullshit but still that was only relatively good for a competitor; it was never going to come close to Smash Bros level of success and popularity.
>>717094716You will never know the joy of seeing a hundred posts reaching character limit and they all say MOGU
>>717094323Women are supposed to be mentally ill, that's part of what makes them women.
>>717094853No.
>>717083558>There is a Hololive fighting game but it was kind of just a temporary novelty gameIdol Showdown has been at every EVO since release though.
Hell they streamed it yesterday.
>>717094656>the site will improveWhy don't you do it?
Be a janny, work your way out to be a mod.
And then you clean my shits to improve this shithole.
>>717078138mods were getting the succ from trannies and leaving up their insane posts, yeah
>>717095169There's currently 0 people streaming it and only 50 people in-game. Saying it appeared at EVO is disingenuous, pretty much every fighting game can be found somewhere at EVO, just out on the floor or in some side tournaments. I think people still play GNT4 at EVO. That's not an accomplishment, it's not like it's on the stage.
>>717094950Cover should actually be making games and anime because whipping a bunch of streamers is a completely retarded revenue source when any of them could quit tomorrow and make more money as an independent streamer. The fact that a corp that big relies on YouTube to make it's money is already incredibly risky.
Vtuber companies shouldn't even be publicly traded to begin with but if they want stable, exponential growth it isn't found in an army of mentally unstable women
>>717095453>Saying it appeared at EVO is disingenuousNo it's not. It's a fighting game and like 90% of fighting games just don't have people watching at all. It having a spot at EVO is significant specifically because it means there are locals for it.
>pretty much every fighting game can be found somewhere at EVOAre they streamed with prizes?
>>717095471>make more money as an independent streamer.Get a load of this guy.
>>717077906 (OP)Peko peko mother fuckers
>>717095091Gee, I wonder why no smash clone has ever truly succeeded, couldn't be the fact that they are all disgusting poverty games that look like they were shat out for 6 year iPad babies or furries. Must be that the genre is fundamentally niche, after all why would any normal human not be salivating at rivals of aether
>>717095471>Cover should actually be making games and animeThey make anime technically, but games is dramatically different from what they normally do. It's better that they're just supporting fan devs officially instead of trying to make their own stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>and make more money as an independent streamer??????????????
Anon you know this is Hololive right?
>>717078002It was made because old /jp/ had literally no room to ralk anymore after being flooded with them.
>>717095564If everyone who was talented enough to leave had the confidence to do it the company would collapse with all the c-tier talent nobody gives a shit about. It is not a stable operating model for a corporation.
>>717095889Anon I don't know how to tell you this, but you may be infected with indie brainrot.
>>717095852If you're talking about /vt/'s creation, that's just blatantly wrong. It was made to have a special rule created for it, hence "Rule 1". It was workshopped together in the Hololive Global thread.
>>717095852Because they flooded here from reddit, twitter and discord.
>>717094853>>717094675>you need to fuck whores to be white lol
I fuck only virgin teenagers since Europe isn't cucked like fat mericans kek
>paying fat ugly women behind avatars to say hello to your cringey twitch/youtube username
Name a more zoomer activity.
>>717096078>this level of delusion iโm not suprised itโs in a /vt/ related thread
>>717095962You are completely retarded if you think korone, pekora, miko or any big name within hololive couldn't quit and sustain a gigantic following on their own. As an indie you are paid more for less work and if that level of talent leaves the company collapses. You are arguing from a place of liking corporate vtubing, I'm don't care about what you like I'm saying it is objectively a stupid business model for a giant media corp and will result in many of them imploding (they do)
>>717096078>Europe>virginSure thing, ahmed.
>>717096312Hololive is a family. Nobody wants to abandon their family.
>>717096312>You are completely retarded if you think korone, pekora, miko or any big name within hololive couldn't quit and sustain a gigantic following on their ownI'm calling you retarded because you said indies make more money and also implied these girls are captive to Cover. It's literally the talking points of someone who thinks every corpo is Vshojo
>>717096078First of all you aren't White so neither your opinion or life matters, furthermore does "virgin teens" specify humans?
>>717096312>You are arguing from a place of liking corporate vtubing,And you are arguing from a place of hating corporate vtubing.
>I'm don't careWould you look at that...
>>717096434>My family is a corporation that makes me shill McDonald's and Coca-Cola because we need infinite growthMaybe if they were privately owned
>>717077906 (OP)I will never buy a game with vtumor shit just like I won't buy games with denuvo
>>717095676>fallacyI never said it was a niche genre. More realistically it's because Smash Bros has refined it so well and Nintendo has such a massive roster of beloved characters(just look at how much Sony struggled to fill out a small roster) that it's extremely unlikely anybody else will be able to match it. SSB has a phenomenally well-refined mix of style, presentation, adaption and execution underlying the unmatched recognition. It's part of the reason why the games have been miles ahead of any competitors despite being exclusive to a single platform.
For anyone to come anywhere close to Smash Bros in terms of popularity and success it would need to be someone who has the connections to get a ton of widely recognized IPs, the experience needed to at least end up in the same ballpark of quality and smoothness of gameplay and the money to make it all presentable in a way that actually turns heads.
>>717096434This is so parasocial its actually disgusting
>>717096685He's saying it because Nijisanji actually had talents saying that moments before their implosion. It's a joke.
>>717096460An indie obviously makes more than a wagie because they take home all their profit instead of having it skimmed by the corp, are you retarded? Do you think corporate revenue just magically appears without them skimming profits from their talent?
>>717096540I'm white. I just don't mention it because to /pol/ tards you aren't white unless you're blonde with blue eyes
I'm mediterranean
>>717096312I'll be the one to tell you that you don't know shit about idol culture or Japan for that matter.
When I went to a massage appointment several years ago while I was on vacation in Japan, the masseuse made a comment about how โmen she works on usually have an erection but itโs okay that I donโt.โ I felt really humiliated, and embarrassed like maybe something was wrong with my body.
Ever since that time, any time Iโm about to go to an appointment (within 1-2 hours) for anything where I could potentially be exposed, I take a single sildenafil. My reasoning for this is that I find it incredibly emasculating to be having my body massaged by someone, or a laser person working on me and I sit there soft. My mind constantly goes back to that moment where someone in a position of power made that comment and itโs really messed with me ever since. I never do anything beyond taking the pill. I donโt talk about whatโs going on down there and I donโt think anyone has ever commented on it either which is good because itโd be a bit awkward, but I find it more awkward when someone is rubbing on my body and Iโm flaccid than the contrary where Iโm rock solid (which also shows indications of health).
Itโs the same thing in the locker room. If Iโm going to the gym I take a sildenafil because Iโm incredibly embarrassed when Iโm surrounded by men who are more showers than growers (iโm definitely the latter) so I look like Iโm sporting a micro even though thatโs not the case. The sildenafil doesnโt guarantee any kind of strong erection but it definitely has a varied effect of like, 20-60% of an erection when nothing sexual is going on. I donโt really see any of this as sexual (Iโm a straight dude), but more of a mental safety thing for myself where I feel most secure when others see me if itโs erect and not soft. Something about when itโs soft and someone can see it makes me feel like less of a person and it has a cyclical effect of softening and shrinking even more.
>>717096574No, I'm not and since we've established you're arguing like a retarded child who wants to say he likes chocolate milk instead of strawberry, I don't need to engage.
>>717096807>white>mediterranean
>>717096685It was a joke mate, chill
>>717096891>we've establishedTake your meds, anon.
>>717096801Anon you are aware that Hololive members make a salary right?
They don't just receive cuts of their SCs, merch, membership, and sponsorships etc., but actually receive a sizeable amount of cash each month too regardless of what other sources are brought in?
Even back when Hololive was new, HololiveEN members received checks large enough for them to panic, with some of them buying new houses just a year later. There are a lot of things you could argue in favor of being indie, but "making more money" has never been one of them at any stage of Hololive's life.
>>717096312>As an indie you are paid more for less workYou're retarded. Every single big name from Niji and Holo has admitted that doing anything that gets money ends up being way more work when you're indie. A vast majority of the "work" when you're under a corpo is just paperwork bullshit and, in the case of Hololive, singing/dance lessons and recordings.
Gura could have gotten basically any sponsorship deal or figure print that she wanted and a vast majority of that work would have been handled by the company. Saba has extremely limited options and you're never going to see a high-end figure of her because she no longer has the connections. They don't care about who she was. The care about the security that a fellow billion dollar corporation can provide.
>>717096770>saar ur corperate waifu no love you>my independent streamer say my name when i redeem superchatAll you simps are the same
>>717096807Ok akhmed
>>717095052Vtubers are peak normalfaggotry on the internet. You can tell from how popular they are.
>>717097080Damn these Sharty members are having a meltdown today
>>717077906 (OP)Yes, but I want more of my oshi instead.
>>717096801You're fucking retarded and clueless. Holos make more on their salaries alone(you're aware they get salaries right?) than 99% of indies do through merch/donations/sponsorships/etc. Even the biggest "indies" in the industry(people like Ironmouse and Filian are realistically not indie and haven't been for years but we'll label them as such for the sake of the argument) don't make anywhere near as much as the top dogs in Hololive despite the corporate cuts.
>>717097047>Every single big name from Niji and Holo has admitted that doing anything that gets money ends up being way more work when you're indieIt's like these people think corpos just corral girls into a group and then garnish their income. Ignore how they offer free cover songs and outfits and rigging and connections to songmakers and merch companies and 3D studios in general: they garnish their donos so indies make more.
>>717097195This. Though Ina has been in anime more than games at least.
>>717077906 (OP)konami was right about kojim
>>717097272>>717096924>pot callint the kettle shitskinned
>More real people including Debra Wilson
>Or anime people designed to at least look attractive
I'm fine with this honestly.
>>717095221>reading comprehensionas expected from a poojet
>>717096312They could keep a following sure. But if they're interested in doing concerts, con appearances, and having merch and new models + updates to models they are going to be doing a lot more work and the money to fund that is going to come straight from them as opposed to a company. Hell there's riggers and model makers that will outright refuse to work with you if you're indie.
>>717095676>Real communism has never been tried!>>717096924>posts pizza
>>717096684This is true of every single successful big budget game ever made. Some kid in their basement isn't going to match the quality of a good AAA game but another AAA developer with a similar skillset will. This argument about smash is always retarded because no AAA attempt from an actual fighting game dev was ever made, I think only 1 possible AAA attempt was ever made and it was that shitty playstation knockoff from a bunch of literally who's that looked borderline AA.
You don't need big name IP, you need an actual fighting game dev like capcom to make an attempt with appealing character designs, I would bet the level of success would even rival street fighter because there is currently 0 competition in a space with a tonne of desire.
There's nothing wrong with hololive.
Don't watch anybody outside of hololive though.
>>717078002I love vtubers because women are more tolerable under an oppressive moral code limiting what they can say and do. If you're getting too old for "this shit," then letting the cunts run wild in the first place was your fault.
>>717096924Actual meds aren't self-conscious about their whiteness or lack thereof.
When a self-proclaimed med is seething about nordicism its usually some brown central american latinx who is larping as a med online because his maternal ancestor was raped by a spanish conquistador centuries ago.
>There's nothing wrong with hololive.
>Don't watch anybody outside of hololive though.
>>717097452Shut up, clanker.
Humen are talking.
>>717077906 (OP)This is what gamers have wanted for years.
>>717097681And when vtrooners say they're 'white' it means they're mutts.
>>717097045Yes there's a magic money tree within hololive that generates more profit than the people who make the profit which somehow means their wagie salary is higher than the money they generate to pay themselves. You are an idiot.
>>717097047You are quoting the opinion of c tier streamers with 200k subs, no shit they would struggle outside a corp because the entirety of their success is due to the corp. I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about the gigantic streamers who keep these companies afloat who have millions of subscribers, that is a magnet for sponsorships that push revenue inside or outside a company.
>>717097420>they are going to be doing a lot more work and the money to fund that is going to come straight from them as opposed to a company.You do realize that the trade-off here is they keep more of the money they make instead of giving it all to a company and being given a paycheck. It's more mental load, but if you can be responsible and balance income and expenses, you will be just fine. Because you have more money to do that stuff with. Especially considering there's not a whole company worth of salaries to pay.
>>717097681This, the fact that he's bothered about such trivial shit because of /pol/ is hilarious.
>>717077906 (OP)I donโt really care one way or another about vtubers but I want this to happen because I know it would make a lot of people on /v/ angry
>>717097841Anon you're beginning to sound like you don't even know how regular jobs work, much less hololive.
>>717097793I hate how pekora insists upon herself
i am trans, half indian, overweight, MAP and i love vtubers
>>717077906 (OP)What's retarded with all the complaining about VTubers is that this isn't about watching streams, this about them being included as characters in a game. In other words an anime girl voiced by a real person.
How is this different from a normal anime character?
>b-but they stream, but muh ecelebsWe aren't talking about streams, or their point of origin, we're talking about video games. Would you rather fugly real people or beautiful anime girls in your game? The hate is focused on the point of origin but that doesn't matter unless you watch them. If you don't then how is this different from a cameo or crossover with an existing IP?
People love HoloCure even if they don't watch VTubers or Hololive since all it is is characters in a video game with unique movesets and designs. Treat it that way instead of getting your panties in a twist over something that doesn't matter in terms of videogames.
>>717097841Wow, how old are you?
what is the vtuber altchan
>>717078002For me it was just regular streamers and people experiencing things vicariously through a screen while their streamer of choice is playing the game instead of them. To me vtubers are just a different flavor of the same thing.
>>717097420Yes, which is why they now prefer to hire singers and idols who need that corporate support but their most popular talents are popular because they are streamers. If you deleted their best streamers the company would be an irrelevant music producer.
I haven't donated a cent to any of them but I enjoy some vtubers. If nothing else, it's much better than some webcam eceleb faggot
>>717098032If you aren't a election tourist who came here from reddit/discord/twitter/tumblr you'd know we hate ecelebs
>suisei and botan officially showing up in my hentai games
>>717098119>but their most popular talents are popular because they are streamersIn Hololive, Suisei is the most popular member by a large margin and she's been in hololive almost since its inception.
>>717097452>I'm so fucking blind I can't tell the difference between rivals of aether and smash brosYes, you chopping off your dick and shouting da comrade with your boyfriend is the same as the soviet union.
>>717098204Isn't it kinda ironic to say this when Vinesauce is literally /v/-made?
Who's "we"?
>>717098296>normalfag eceleb sloppuStop being brown
>>717098204ecelebs are hated because they're lolcows that love their own voice and give their worthless opinion about everything
>DEI in games?They make videos about it
>politics They make videos about it
>any random dramaThey make videos about it
Meanwhile vtubers(at least hololive)just play games and try to entertain their fans
>>717091282>And since Hololive treats vtubers more as "virtual idols" instead of "virtual streamers", they're paid a high salary resulting in these talents not even wanting you to donate.I didn't know that. But aren't the appeal of vtubers the same as people who say stuff like "3DPD"? Either way, streamers, vtubers, un-edited hourly long content is low-brow.
>>717083918And people say trannies don't deserve the rope.
>>717097845You genuinely have no idea what the hell you're talking about
Yes. Total bitchface femoid death.
>>717098432>Uhhhh actually all of us here on the 4channel board of vee hate eceleb streamers>Just ignore how one of the most popular ecelebs in the world was made for vee by vee
>>717097992I'm afraid you don't understand corporate jobs if you think they would ever pay you more than you would make as an independent business owner or even a freelancer. This level of stupidity happened within the game industry in the early days, they gave their Devs royalties and they all retired immediately because they had enough money and didn't want to work anymore.
>>717098465>hating DEI in games is badI fucking knew you were brown
>>717077906 (OP)I wish vtubers went extinct with that stupid cat shark brat with the retarded hair stripes. That was the biggest laugh when 4chan was on vacation. I'm fine if they're in games though, so long as it's not shoved in my face like a barely disguised fetish. Silly optional content is perfectly fine.
>>717098773I hate DEI in games but I also hate those faggots that grift about it
>X situation is crazy!
>>717098986>my fellow white people
>>717098507>But aren't the appeal of vtubers the same as people who say stuff like "3DPD"There's thousands of vtubers out there. Holodex.net has 3200 registered vtubers on its list alone (opt in website that tracks and displays streams of active vtubers above a certain amount of fans). Of those thousands, only about 100 of those can be considered popular enough to break into mainstream, with most of those being hololive members. Not to mention 'vtubers' also include people like Kuroboshi, the artist who made Abby in FGO and Kino's Journey, or kamone, who is Under Night's battle planner and lead programmer. The appeal of vtubers is just the appeal of Hololive, and Hololive mimics Japanese Idol autism.
>wahhh /vt/ wahhh
Sounds like you were successfully gatekept lol
can anyone tell me why there is such a big overlap between vtuber fans and NTR
fetishists?
>>717099146vtubers are idols. Idols are supposed to be pure. Therefore, NTRfags enjoy seeing them be put in very compromising scenarios. It's the same thing with actual idols who aren't fat landwhales behind anime avatars, simple as that.
>>717099146They literally fund these whores vacations, these "people" are unironic cuckolds unti findom
>uwu im taking a breakYeah that means she's fucking her bf
>>717098782>I wish vtubers went extinct with that stupid cat shark bratGura? She was irrelevant for years leading up to her departure. Not even an exaggeration: She did maybe one stream every couple of months for two years until she disappeared completely and then dipped.
>>717099146>Person hates vtubers>Whenever they see discussion of vtubers, brings up how X or Y cuck their fansThat's about it
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>>717099116>Holodex.net>Kuroboshi, the artist who made Abby in FGO and Kino's Journey, or kamone, who is Under Night's battle planner and lead programmer. >vtubers is just the appeal of Hololive, and Hololive mimics Japanese Idol autism.You think you are giving me context, but I don't know anything about this subject.
>>717099253>>717099262thanks for the explanation. its hard to find any porn art thats not NTR coded.
No. Game budgets should not be diverted to celebs or ecelebs.
>>717097482>This is true of every single successful big budget game ever made.No it's not. There have been indie titles which completely destroy larger dev teams in the same genre. Nobody has come close to doing that with SSB for the reasons I stated. Over the past ten years there have been numerous fighting games which have pulled impressive numbers be it from sales or concurrent player count. Nobody in the past 25 years has managed to enter the same universe as SSB when it comes to platform fighters and it's for reasons that I stated. The entry point for the genre is now far too high and you can probably count on one hand the number of corporations who could make a real attempt at putting a dent in the market.
>>717099131>Heheh gatekeptSays the disgusting immigrant who would rather talk about vtubers here than his own board. Go home.
>>717099131The racial traits of Third Worlders:
1. Existentially distressed by space, quiet, privacy and nature itself.
2. Compelled to degrade and over-populate any habitat into a wasteland of environmental disaster.
3. Every interaction, no matter how big or small, is a zero-sum game if not a negative-sum game.
4. Perceive everything as a matter of social status, which they seek to humiliate others with.
5. Breed out of spite and only care for their kin in a performative fashion.
6. Adept at mimicry so to achieve a sufficiently convincing but false appearance.
7. Claim superiority by degrading conditions to the point where nobody wants to participate.
8. Default position on anything is relativistic cruelty justified by contrived grievance.
9. Project everything they are guilty of onto Europeans since every negative accusation they make is a confession.
10. Incapable of empathy yet demand and exploit empathy to elicit guilt and avoid extermination.
The "minority" effect:
Upon infiltration, a single non-European, be it African, Asiatic or Jewish, will be nice enough in order to establish a polite and personable reputation among the host population. However, they subconsciously recognise that the biggest potential threat to them is the fundamental group of the host society; In which case they use positive interactions as a faรงade for ulterior motives and will only show their true colours once they increase their numbers or influence to a sufficient level. Moderate, passive-aggressive members not only use token generosity to have the host population lower their guard, but they also use soft-power under the guise of being peaceable while their immoderate and aggressive brethren use hard-power, which they claim does not represent them in general as they establish and consolidate plausible deniability. The aggressive ones take attention away from the passive-aggressive ones who seek our extermination via political means.
>>717097841>You are quoting the opinion of c tier streamers with 200k subsCongratulations on outing yourself as a clueless retard. Even Gura has said it.
Stop bullying Kojima's wife.
I miss when these parasocial streamers were meant to be older bro/best friend simulators, not girlfriend ones. Somehow the former seems way less pathetic to me.
>>717099369Vtubers are an all-encompassing term but the ones worth anything are a specific subset of vtubers within a corporation named Hololive. Their appeal is their concerts and singing, as Hololive copied the culture of Japanese Idols. Hololive vtubers do a minimum of one concert a year, with some doing multiple concerts.
There is a Hololive concert happening in NYC this month even.
https://www.msg.com/events-tickets/hololive-english-mori-calliope-irys-radio-city-music-hall-august-2025/3C0062CED2540BD8
If nothing else, you can just think of them as a company of amateur singers.
>>717077906 (OP)If it will get more more attractive women in my games, im all for it. Let those whiny faggots on /v/ continue to melt down because they will never make money playing games, they will never get a modicum of fame or attention, they will continue to seethe over the fact that females are more appealing than males.
>>717099146Because that's just how vtubing works.
For many male viewers who watch vtubers the female vtuber is a gf or wife replacement, a romantic interest of sorts.
But since they only interact via stream or superchats its a very one sided relationship; the vtuber is in it for the money and the viewers can imagine she's their significant other.
Then eventually personal details about the vtuber become public one way or another and surprise, she had a bf the entire time. Now a notable portion of said vtubers viewers feel like cuckolds.
Some will get angry and move to another vtuber, while those who are too invested will stay and knowingly provide for a woman who they know is in a relationship with another man.
Of course even if there is no reveal many male viewers can still put two and two together and realize that she is probably riding dick irl, but as long as they can cling onto their plausible deniability they usually choose to ignore it.
>>717099376It's an incorrect explanation. vtubers and vtubers pursuing idol careers are two different distinctions. vtubers are just steamers with an avatar.
Isn't Vtuber stuff just Japan's idol culture but in a different form?
>>717099617I didn't even know some of these vtubers were singers.
>>717099627Why is your skin brown?
>>717099828One of them is even contracted to Universal.
Lotus Juice is a big fan.
>>717099828>the Whitest r/hololive tourist
>>717099403>There have been indie titles which completely destroy larger dev teams in the same genreNope, that is a modern phenomena as western AAA collapsed and indie scaled up to AA. You can say you like indie games more but you can't say they have the same level of scale or polish as a good AAA game. Smash doesn't even want the audience it created, the bar is actually so low that shitty, disgusting looking games like rivals are able to garner a following that competes with legendary fighting game IP like KOF.
>>717099146The overlap is because cucks are delusional crave attention from females. They fear other men because they think that those men are going to cuck them. It doesn't matter if those other men are real, fictional, or just a figment of their imaginations. They are in a mental space where they constantly make themselves vulnerable and believing that literally everything in all of creation exists to cuck them which will lead them to pain in suffering. They're constantly in anticipation of being hurt by SOMETHING whether it is real or not and they feel the need to let out those feelings in public spaces to the detriment of everyone else.
The reality is normal people don't have those delusions because they're too busy doing their own thing.
>>717099501can you even read your own copypasta or did you just paste it because it looks kind of impressive
>>717099627It's because of colossal faggots like you giving unwarranteed attention to average whores.
>>717099828So many things about this screencap are baffling.
>>717099981>NopeIncorrect. Didn't read beyond this point, concession accepted. If you're going to be a disingenuous shithead I'm going to give you the quality of response that you deserve.
>>717094656hiro only cares about ad views, nothing else
>>717099506Kek, yes I'm sure having to actually stream to earn a living is harder than sitting on your ass collecting paychecks. Unfortunately for cover the majority of their most popular streamers do actually work so it wouldn't be any different if they left.
>Fake look
>Fake voice
>Fake persona
>Maybe even fake gameplay
Vtubing is the most soulless shit imaginable, and it always catches the least creative types of people as its audience. Literal socially-misaligned autists and genuine life losers.
>>717100017Why the fuck are you conceding?
Anon is just talking about wanting attractive women and you're complaining about them getting attention.
>racism outside of /b/
For what purpose?
>>717099660>For many male viewers who watch vtubers the female vtuber is a gf or wife replacement, a romantic interest of sorts.That is the most pathetic thing I have ever read in my entire life.
It is also not fucking cuckoldry because the entire "relationship" is a figment of the viewers fucking imagination. That's like saying a Hollywood actress is cucking her fans by being married, it's straight up delusion and I genuinely do not understand how anyone could be so autistic and pathetic that they feel actual, genuine feelings of betrayal from finding out that a woman they've never met in real life has a boyfriend.
>>717099627Vtubers all have terrible overdesigned peacock characters. I don't want to see them even in anime games.
>>717079887It's literally the difference between corporate pop and indie music. Many of the famous once came from the idol system. 99% of people don't even have the capacity to vtube, tech or knowledge wise.
>>717100306Anon, you're in a board dedicated to discuss about fake worlds
>>717080340Liking v tubers is incredibly feminine behavior.
>>717100138What a lazy concession.
>>717099828It's kinda crazy how big some of the concerts are. The one in death stranding sold out a concert in an arena with 15k seats
So if you're mad about female vtubers getting attention then why wont you give male vtubers attention?
>>717100590Because they're retards
They could easily double or triplicate that but japanese businessman love fake scarcity
>>717100590Is it that crazy? An idiot like asmongold could jerk off on a stage and sell 15k tickets to it. Once you have millions of fans you can do alot of shit and have people attend.
>>717100679Why even give any trooner attention?
>>717077906 (OP)Norman Reedus is a FtM tranny. I'm not joking.
>>717082107I have to wonder how it works behind the scenes, because on the EN side Calli basically takes all of the big collabs and sponsorships for years now, and has basically crammed two gens that are just her nepo hires.
Gura and her friends except for Kronii just outright left, despite them having the most live viewers and subs, because all of their projects and collabs kept getting blocked.
Does it have to do with her Universal Music contracts?
How much backstabbing is there behind the scenes? We know Vshojo and Niji was filled to the brim with manager and clique bullying bullshit drama.
>>717100798your boogeyman doesn't exist
>>717078475Holy fuck
Can we get IDs on every sub!?!?!
>>717100590Considering Hatsune Miku, a singer that doesn't even exist, has sold out concerts in the hundreds of thousands before, nothing surprises me these days.
>>717100784>asmonI feel a lot of people forget he co-owns a vtubing corpo too
>>717100889Trooner, brown, or perhaps both?
>>717100853Calli is literally there to do idolshit and i fucking hate idolshit. I would like holostars more but they do the exact same thing. The only holostar who is bearable is Axel.
Even so i prefer my indie male vtubers who actually play games.
>>717077906 (OP)death stranding 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTmnpZ77nwA
>>717101008>holostarsI feel bad for them considering they frequently got death threats just for being male vtubers and for "attempting to seduce" any female vtuber they try to interact with.
>>717101137Isn't this like /v/ splitting off into a Nintendo exclusive altchan? Why the fuck would anyone use a corporate fan site?
>>717077906 (OP)Not gamers, but there certainly appears to be a group of people who actually like those vtubers.
>>717101241>Why the fuck would anyone use a corporate fan site?Off-chance of their oshi stopping by and saying hi to them
>>717101241/vt/ was made because of hololive global and hololive global was the majority of /vt/'s board activity. Even if nobody else used it, it's still popular enough to rival boards on 4chan.
But despite that, other vtubers are explicitly allowed on the board.
>>717077906 (OP)>we will forcibly appear on every single piece of media you consumeSounds very jewish.
>>717101220I'm not even a vtuber fan, but sometimes weird shit bleeds through. I remember hearing about schizo claims like that. Some guy existing means that they are "attempting to seduce" some random whore is both retarded and somehow a compliment to all men that their very presence is a seduction.
Like what kind of shit are they even on? Do they even know what they're saying?
>>717101428If a single thread was responsible for the entirety of that boards traffic then why does vt even exist. It should have just been a thread on jp, the English fans can fuck off to Reddit and discuss it there since we don't have an e-celeb board for them.
>>717101536I have grown to tolerate Calli, but man, she still so cringe, shame she was the one to stay behind.
>>717101536DSP outlived gura, ame, sana, mumei, and fauna.
Thats why men will always be better than women and that's why you are all fags for not supporting men.
>>717101609Because "the English fans" have post rates comparable to /pol/ in a single thread. It still is a thread on /jp/ too. In fact there are multiple generals for multiple vtuber things across 4chan
>>717098553How nice of you to prove me wrong with objective information instead of just strawmanning
I think I watched Gura play Resident Evil 2 once. Kinda entertaining but I'm definitely not gonna start watching Vtubers
>>717101609Hololive Global was made to encompass all of Hololive since the Hololive General was extremely phobic to Hololive EN and like, half of the JP roster.
>>717093107this is an unreasonable response to a reasonable post
>>717101795Those English fans don't belong here because they are e-celeb fans and we don't have an e-celeb board. Jp streamers are related to Jp culture and the people trying to learn Japanese, random celebrity gossip is for Facebook and Reddit.
>>717077906 (OP)>>717078002>>717078138anyone have the before/after image of the chud in 2016 enjoying vtubers and now they make him sad? Because most of them dropped their persona and are just irritating women with an anime character on screen.
>>717099116The opposite perspective is always kinda interesting to me, because most of western "vtubing" gained the "popularity" that it has by streamers at first vilifying the entire concept
>muh parasocial relationship >muh problematic idol culturewere suddenly huge problems specifically when it came to eastern vtubers, despite those issues existing 100x times worse in streamer and influencer bubbles and much less in Hololive overall. And when they couldn't cancel the trend, they jumped on the bandwagon. The difference being that the vast majority of them doesn't get the appeal of vtubing (especially how Hololive does it), so they ended up just doing their regular streamer slop but with an anime avatar draped over and thus unsuccessfully keep competing with all other flesh streamers and content you can get literally everywhere, forever staying
>we have vtubers at homewith one of the most prolific companies that did that recently exploding (because of course) after years of advertising themselves as the anti-Hololive, when they also just aped Hololive whenever they could (will never not be funny to me that these kinda "muh problematic idol culture" people tried to do idol concerts on several occasions). 90% of the hate vtubers as a concept get is because the first and last contact point with it for a ton of people are ironic twitch "vtubers" and honestly, if that was my introduction to it, I'd hate it too.
>>717102131Seems like a random thing to push for a Japanese company.
>>717101480You gotta understand man, we are dealing with the bottom of the barrel here. Dudes who work minimum wage jobs just to come home and watch videos of their "vtuber girlfriend", who mark on their goddamn calendar when their precious oshi is streaming live again. They are parasocial to the extreme, they pay real money just to "flirt" via superchats and do whatever they can to get their chosen vtuber's attention. It's mental illness, and honestly I'm not entirely sure they can be helped.
>>717102208If some gay boy like destiny was owned by a Japanese company that wouldn't mean he's entitled to his own thread or board. Gossiping about internet people for the sake of gossip is kiwi farms shit
>>717078002>>717098108Same here. The very term "content creator" as a description of what you do makes me fucking laugh. It's supposed to be a catch-all term for what platforms like YouTube call their creative userbase and encompasses comedians, film makers, musicians, journalists, expert gurus and the like. IF you can't describe yourself as any of those things and instead have to describe yourself solely as a "content creator" then needless to say the "content" you create is absolutely worthless as is anybody who gives it their attention.
>>717102463NTA but if this "destiny" person was had a presence that consistently outpaced multiple boards for over a year, they'd get their own board yes. Now imagine having 90 people like that.
>>717077906 (OP)HOLY BASED
If your vtuber has tight I will shill it on every board
>>717102746Holy fuck, I didn't know she was that well-proportioned under there.
>>717102669Ok, why don't we have an e-celeb board then? There are billions of massive streamers that would run a hyper popular board full of weird kiwi farms drama fags, why isn't there a general celebrity board where women gossip about famous people? I think there was acknowledgement that all that shit is cancerous.
>>717102746Pekobutt is nice and all, however Watabutt is superior.
>>717098108I already beat my favorite games. I want to see cute girls fail at them until they eventually win through sheer persistence and some backseat gaming.
>>717079085>>717078002>>717077906 (OP)See
>>717082107Vtubers are normalfag tier. Like that industry generates a lot of money, don't fool yourselves.
Being a fan or a hater is both normalfag behavior
>>717102942>Ok, why don't we have an e-celeb board then?because there isn't enough traffic on 4chan for them
>kojima put vtubers in his le quirky uber eats game
and people trust his movie tweets?
>>717078002Same, I was really into Twitch when Hearthstone first came out and I still like cute anime girls but I just can't get into vtubers. I guess I just got bored of the streamer thing years ago.
>>717102746So this is the famed rabbit hole I've heard so much about.
>>717103131he just wanted a excuse to have a high resolution model of her on his private laptop for specific reasons.
>>717103296They actually went to Cover's studio, not Kojimas.
>>717102942E-celeb stalkers are more mentally ill than vtuber stalkers. By stalkers I mean "insane haters". Do you really think anons who cry about e-celeb drama and somehow know all existing e-celebs and their personas are normal human beings and not mentally ill vendetta seeking schizos who get banned 24/7 from e-celeb streams? 4chan is the only site where they can spread their mental illness. Same shit happens with vtubers here.
>save cute or sexy japanese art from twitter>it's some vtuber or shit who cares good drawing>post it here casually >instant malding about vtuber
>>717103719>Oh my fucking science, it's the haters... OK???
>>717078002>>717078138i thought streamers couldn't get any worse.
then comes some random whore pretending to be an animu gurl online and every incel/NEET/autistic beta loser is all over it, its genuinely repulsive and im genuinely afraid of just how deranged the future will be with these subhumans around condoning this kind of shit.
>>717103719It's because people on /v/ can't handle it when there are people who get more attention than them.
>>717103719you posted a vtuber and got mad that people started talking about that vtuber you posted
you might have a mental problem brother
>>717103954Projection mode: ON.
>>717103967The one with the mental problem is the one who freaks the fuck out just because they see a vtuber image. They should stop shitting up the board with their meltdowns.
>>717102996>in Hololive: gets mv where she comes out of the ocean naked>out of Hololive: immediately censors her own original designWhy does that happen to all of them? I don't mind that they are leaving, it's their own decision after years, but it's always like they set out to do great things "no longer under corporate restraints", only to immediately become just more of the same western content sphere.
>>717078002My brain just registers vtumors in the exact same way as any narcissistic retard with a face cam clogging their stream, only worse because they attract ironic weebs.
>>717079887you're either in it for the streamer's personality and charisma, or you're in it for the virtual character.
I'm in tier 1, personally. The avatars a fun, but I don't really give a fuck. I don't get mad when they break character, or don't act like an anime girl.
>>717103967>you posted a vtuberI posted a drawing of anime girl. I don't even know the names of 99.9% vturbers.
But mentally ill anons immideadly treat it as real 3DPD and start malding. The same anons who make fun of VT simps get mad at VT avatars. Like simps.
In the year 2100 scientists will write books about this phenomenon.
>>717104438I'm in it for the games.
>>717078002It shouldโve been tooken over and turned into e-celeb drama, like the qway was
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>>717077906 (OP)If it makes incels feel better, I also like watching 50 year old Japanese men play video games
>>717095453It's a discord fighter now but there's a small scene still supporting it. It had like 800 bucks as a prize pool yesterday (most of it was in Omocat shop credits)
>>717104671Same but watching them draw.
>>717089419it's a highly female coded board. You can just sense a lot of what goes on their is women tearing other women down. I'm sure dozen (if not hundreds) of Vtubers themselves are posting on that place.
>>717103086>because there isn't enough traffic on 4chan for themkek
>>717104791Ten threads on /v/ that amount to 1000 posts in an hour is not enough traffic. Especially compared to Hololive Global who was burning through 1500-post threads in 20 minutes at all hours for a year leading up to /vt/'s creation. So no there isn't enough traffic for them.
>>717104704That's my father in law
>>717104671This is why I watch korone, shes basically female arino.
>>717104704He draw in sai? Nani???
>>717104113They're autistic women, anon. Well adjusted people don't become vtubers
only ironic weebs hate on the idol aspect
>>717093304jews let it happen
>>717104716nah it's schizos screaming at other schizos, SEAfags and maybe a bunch of normal posters, women do not thrive in this environment
Vtubers post there, true, but that board is related to their field so it would be strange for them not to considering there's pretty much nowhere else to go for vtuber discussion.
>>717105205>there's pretty much nowhere else to go for vtuber discussionThe altchan is unironically popular enough that 4chan's Japanese older brother 2chan knows about and visits there now instead.
>>717104921half the fucking board here is stupid shit about pirate software, asmongold, mold man, tendie puppet pedo, ssseth, irish essay man or a billion other youtube channels and streamers and that is purely /v/. There is so much desire for gay internet streamers and gossip that it basically runs the entirety of gaming discussion which is just NPCs parroting e-celeb opinions back at one another.
>>717104113Gura left because a bunch of inconsistent bullshit. I've heard shit from her not wanting to fly to Japan twice a year for events to Hololive not letting her play into her loli aspect more to her not getting her ass kissed constantly. In reality, it was most likely greed and laziness.
>>717105018Yeah, it's pretty rare seeing a Japanese illustrator not use CSP
>>717077906 (OP)Games have to be face scan shit now, and cant feature anime characters anymore but we can have costumes from anime characters in this shit
Who are these games for?
>>717105320holotower is just reddit-lite though, goes to show how small the discussion space was up to now, there was either reddit where you can't say shit or 4chan where everything goes
if you actually visit that place it's obvious these niggas are just redditors
>>717105623Someone is mad they can't be schizo there
>>717105697schizos are part of the experience, if you want them gone then you don't actually want 4chan culture
>>717105623>>717105386So do you want a board to be only drama or only about the content the board is about?
>>717104487On the whole, Vtubers aren't great for pure gaming streams, just saying.
What you want there is some crusty fat guy (or a queer furry) on Twitch. I watch a lot of those guys too.
>>717105623vt was already reddit, I cant imagine how much worse it got once it was removed from a wider body.
>>717104671>used to watch GCCX with /v/ on instasync>now watch hag vtubers play retro gamesYeah that makes sense
>>717078138it's kinda funny that the only people to make an altchan that is actually kinda good (not cancer, actually really polite as far as i could tell but i'm not a regular user. and also not unusably slow) was fucking /vt/
>>717105569I know rei_17 draw in sai. Yoshinari surprisingly pain in fucking painter. Probably because of unique mixing brush you can't re-create in other programs.
>>717105814I want you people to fuck off to reddit or kiwi farms where you belong. It looks like its basically already happening so they should just shut down vt and let everyone migrate to the reddit altchan. The point is that gossip about people without an overriding topic is complete cancer, that is what english vtuber discussion is
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>>717105386>half the fucking boardThis is the board literally right this second .
How many is half?
>>717106051Just goes to show it's about the artist and not the tools.
>>717106009The funniest thing is they got rid of a big chunk of shitposting just by banning specific countries
>>717106071So you're just throwing a bitch-fit about things you don't know about?
>>717105914if you don't follow the hivemind you'll get the axe
You have to tiptoe around the issues like redditors often do to show they don't agree but don't want a banhammer
think
>uhh I don't really like this thing, I think it might impact with my enjoyment of X, I'm still a fan though! No changes!instead of
>this shit sucks I think X needs to kill itself
>>717106250>finally pick up on what they mean by "room mates"I cringed so hard. Fembrained board.
>>717106378That's not a vtuber term that's an idol term.
>>717106053Been here before there even was a /vt/ bud. It was always schizo central.
>>717078002It's somehow more pathetic than Onlyfans paypigs
>>717105505>make it big, and build an audience>leave, so you can do what you like, without Mr Porky taking a cut, and telling you what you're allowed to doPeople think this is a bad thing?
>>717106169so you just want to gossip about people on 4chan? vtubing is just streamers with an anime png, if you think a streamer board would be cancerous then vtubing is no different. Just look at them, they are fighting over delusions of which woman has a boyfriend and fucking viewer statistics as if it means anything besides how big a random woman's bank account it, at least game sales effect the trajectory of the industry and what gets sequels.
>>717106529>if you think a streamer board would be cancerousNo I said there's not enough traffic for it
>>717106441Why do people capitulate to all of this shit? That's a human being up there, with a life outside of the character. I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
>>717106086That discussion is aggressively banned and you still caught an eceleb thread about a youtube tendie. By your logic a vtuber board wouldn't have had an audience because it was merely a handful of threads on jp.
>>717106009When 4chan came back online the resident schizo shitposted for 18 hours straight with anyone reporting him getting warned or banned. No one cared to go back after that
>>717106459You used to be able to earnestly discuss things here. Now every thread on every popular board has at least one schizo that shits everything up
>>717106681Real life and the character are separate and most everyone tries to keep it separate. It's like kayface in wrestling
>>717106497Well hopefully she likes her newfound freedom because she's going to have to live with this choice 1-2 years down the line.
>>717106721I heard some of the VTuber schizos went over to Mark's site, didn't realise they had IDs, and got caught having massive conversations with themselves.
>>717106640you're replying to an argument chain about vt being almost exclusively cancerous gossip, if your final conclusion is you want a kiwi farms board then were done talking, you've admitted you're a cancerous sperg and you should probably join the kind of community that will let you gossip with like minded sewer creatures.
>>717106851I find that incredibly cringe. The person is a person. the character is just a bit of set dressing. It shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>717106695>That discussion is aggressively banned and you still caught an eceleb thread about a youtube tendieThen having ONE thread isn't large enough for a board
>But they're bannedThen they can go to /b/ and talk about it but they don't. They WANT /v/ to see their drama and that's not conductive to a board either. Vtubers got a board because they went to an appropriate board to discuss it and naturally got more popular over time. You're trying to say /vt/ was made to contain a bunch of gossiping schizos when not even Hololive Global, the ones asking for it, thought it was a bad idea if it wasn't general-only. Just because you see someone spam the same thread every day that either archives at 30 posts or gets deleted doesn't mean it's big enough to warrant a whole place for it.
Outside of you wanting to make it a containment board anyway.
>>717106721>When 4chan came back online the resident schizo shitposted for 18 hours straight with anyone reporting him getting warned or banned.Sounds like a janny on alt IPs. This is the most cancerous 4chan shit possible. /a/ had one too.
>>717078475>weebs/vtumors/tendies/gacha players being mentally ill deranged faggotswhat a revelation
>>717106858I'm sure she wont miss working for a chinese corporation, who tells her who she's allowed to be friends with today.
>>717077906 (OP)>more eceleb slop
>>717106975>I find that incredibly cringeYou're posting on Anonymous imageboard anon. Why are you hiding your character?
>>717106681>Why do people capitulate to all of this shit?Because the entire vtubersphere tries to mimic Hololive.
Even on /vt/ you can see this.
"Hololive Global" was made specifically because it was supposed to house discussion for JP, EN, and ID Hololive members (hence "Global").
If you go on /vt/ right now and filter "Global", you'll see tons of threads having it in their name for NO OTHER REASON beyond Hololive Global having it.
If there's a random term you see in vtubing (i.e. graduating, roommates, etc.) it's because of Hololive, and Hololive gets it from Japanese Idol culture because Hololive was built on Japanese Idol culture.
>>717107079Cover is Japanese and they never told her she couldn't be friends with one person or another.
>>717107207I'm all me. I say exactly what I think.
>>717106985There's a rolling desire to start e-celeb discussion threads even though they are banned after a few minutes, any time some stupid drama happens it does actually flood the board, its like porn, if it wasn't banned it would take over everything. I dont even know why we are arguing about this autistic, meaningless point. it is self evident that people want to gossip about internet people, this is the entire reason vt exists.
>>717077906 (OP)I don't know who they are. I can't identify one of them. The closest I get to garbage like this is when threads like this pop up in /v/. When I see references, I typically have no clue where it came from.
Why would I care if I have no clue what some random stupid "girl" pops up as a decal on a piece clothing I'll never wear on my characters?
>>717106497NTA but Hololive talents make dramatically more money than anybody else. It's the golden ticket of vtubing. Not just money either, but they get access to tons of resources that would otherwise be impossible themselves.
Building up an audience and leaving is fine, but it's less them "making more money" and more "making enough money and leaving".
>>717107283You're not me, Anonymous.
>>717107249>Because the entire vtubersphere tries to mimic Hololivethat's why its shit, the original streaming culture was from nijisanji jp and over time it is being warped into idols sucking money from their simps.
Was the V-tuber worshipper fag just the next step of evolution of the waifu fag? At least the waifu fag was indulging in a fantasy (sometimes pushed into their own distorted reality) but it was in the character entirely. With V-tuber fags, I find it more perverted because deep down, they know there is a person behind that persona/avatar they are idolizing and fapping to, and that person is not the avatar. Or it's a more hilarious version of celebrity worship, where people get whiplashed when they meet their "heroes" and said heroes are much different folks when they are not in front a camera.
>>717107673That's just nijisanji fault for not being interesting enough. Even they are copying Hololive now with concerts and attempting to garner western attention through sports collabs.
>>717107815There's nothing special about it. It's just celeb worship for weebs and Asians.
>>717107882They were interesting and dominated the Japanese vtubing sphere to the point where hololive stole their entire streamer format, they just weren't able to crack the western market like cover did.
>>717107815Its an evolution of CGDGT moeshit culture. so yeah it basically is a child of waifu culture.
>>717077906 (OP)I mean sure, it's cute
>>717107815>Was the V-tuber worshipper fag just the next step of evolution of the waifu fagNo.
>>717108074>stole their entire streamer formatYou mean streaming with virtual models?
???
>>717105890That's where you're wrong because my go to vtubers play games and do none of that gay shit
>>717108074>They were interestingApparently not since the only significant thing they did was nearly drive someone to suicide
>>717107815Male bad
Female good
Deal with it
>>717108338>Revenue (TTM)>Cover Corp 43.40bn>Anycolor Inc 42.88bnThe fact they are the same size tells me nijisanji completely owns the country it was invented in, why? because they have better streamers.
>>717108231mito pioneered the live 2d streamer format, before that it was weird 3d models and alot of pre recorded youtube videos.
>>717108470>The fact they are the same sizeCover is half the size with more revenue though.