Thread 717102056

Which one is better /v/?

rt ig

even owlcat says wrath is their best work so far

Baldur's Gate 3

>>717102152
Source?

i preferred wrath in general but id rather get stabbed than do a second run of it. a caster officer for yoru crusade armies and a autobuff mods are mendatory

>>717102056 (OP)
Wrath, no contest. Pissed we will never get another.

>>717102056 (OP)
RT mogs the ever living shit out of Sloppafinder and it's not even funny, the difference in writing is staggering, guess that's what happens when your lead writer isn't someone who thinks pic related is funny

Wrath. At least in that game it was easy to do away with the LGBT and blacks.

>>717102509
I made it up.

>>717102964
Wrong. Do you hope that no one that has played both games will correct you or what?
Not only is WotR a million times more pozzed (in fact, RT isn't even pozzed at all outside of the token bisexual romance options and an implied dyke companion) but getting rid of what little wokeshit there is in RT is way easier than in WotR

>>717102964
Gay shit in RT? The only gay thing I've noticed are vox master & Idira and solomorne pretty gay chat options.
But niggers on the other hand... I don't know why they put them in every single game, since beginning and its always a woman (talking about WotR, RT, RT first dlc ( Jocasta, who also happens to be boat whore) and DH)

>>717103134
You can tell pretty much everyone to fuck off almost immediately in wrath. I can't get rid of the new characters owlcat shoved into rt for the life of me, that nigress lady is worse than the paladin in wrath by miles. The tranny in wrath is also easy to dispose of.
>>717103569
Vox lady is fine, I don't give a shit. The black security bitch is the worst fucker in the game, far worse than anything in wrath. She wasn't around originally, I don't know why they just shove in minority diversity points unless they get money from jewrock or someshit to do it.

>>717102870
Why won't we get another pathfinder?

>>717103814
>The tranny in wrath is also easy to dispose of
Oh yes, all you have to do is play an evil mythic path and way until near the end of the game to kill Anevia and Irabeth both. Or failing that, you wait until near the end of the game and let Irabeth dies so Anevia just leaves the Crusade, so easy
>You can tell pretty much everyone to fuck off almost immediately in wrath
You can do the same thing in RT retard, and in Idira's case you can outright execute her at multiple points and even give her to Heinrix so he can torture and kill her
>The black security bitch is the worst fucker in the game
Thought the anti-woke /vpol/ would have liked a fascist guard whose default reaction to the rabble getting too uppity is to torture and/or kill them all?

>>717103819
Because Owlcat got bored of it

>>717104232
and they will make soulless wh40k slop now?

Is Rogue Trader still putting expansions out? I've been waiting to play the full thing.

>>717102056 (OP)
Have they finished releasing DLC for rogue trader yet?

>>717104097
All you do is tell him to fuck off unless that's been changed since the last time I've played it. The "fascist guard" is just a nig acting like a nig and nigging out. Bitch has her weave on too tight and it's killed her brain.
>buzzwords
>/pol/ boogeyman
Fuck off back to where you came from.

>>717104694
>>717104816
haha... there's a new season pass 2 that runs till December next year

Protected sex with camelia and then surprising her with a creampie

They both have owlcat writing so neither

>>717104665
>soulless wh40k slop
Kek as opposed to soulless PFslop?
And no, they're making an Expanse AAA game too, and two new games from different IPs we don't know yet
Sorry lil bro they outgrew Pathfinder

>>717104665
>hurpadurpslopglurp
yes, theyre currently working on a Dark Heresy game
>>717104694
good luck, they announced a second season pass so it won't be complete for a couple more years

>>717104908
Oh well.

>>717105341
Just play it already, the next DLC isn't coming out until next year, and that's assuming it doesn't get delayed

>>717102056 (OP)
WotR is simply TOO massive for your average player, even RPG enthusiast, to properly stick with.

>>717104974
>Sorry lil bro they outgrew Pathfinder
too much drama with departure from ogl, paizo probably forcing 2e from that point onward, etc. which is a shame because there's so much material to adapt.

>>717105497
Owlcat has no problem with 2e

>>717104232
>bored of it
do people just ignore how much dlc wotr got? in comparison they pulled out of kingmaker because they lost all rights to it.

>>717105392
I don't like replaying games, especially when the reason for replaying is maybe 5% of new content. So I'd rather wait.

>>717105651
Yes, making a shitload of DLC (and garbage DLC, at that) contributed a lot.

Rogue trader for me. I found wotr to be too confusing when it comes to building. I almost always end up putting the difficulty down a little after I reach drezen.

>>717105651
>>717105840
>mfw I have to figure when to play each piece of DLC so it makes the most sense

>>717105774
>5% of new content
RT's DLC is actually long, even Lex Imperialis which was shorter than Void Shadows is longer than WotR's story content DLC

>>717105419
people just don't think to turn all the crusade shit off and play on easier diffs to avoid adding 20hrs to their run just to prebuff and play a trash minigame. even then, you can't move 1'' on the world map without getting stalled by ambushes destroying any flow the game has and pulling you back in the tedious molasses of fodder encounters. even the fucking party token moves on the world map at a snail's pace

>>717105970
I think it just took them longer to figure out what their audience wants as DLC.

Kingmaker is the best game. I finished them all on core, RT on unfair. Kingmaker captures the spirit of an RPG adventure the most.

>>717106058
Not when House at the Edge of Time exists.

>>717102956
Sloppa:
>a delicious but visually unappealing meal, usually cheap and easy to prepare. Simple or sloppy comfort foods

Slop:
>a low quality food or product, unappealing in every way, no redeeming qualities

learn what words mean before you make yourself look foolish again. Even Nenio would call you a retard for mixing up slop and sloppa

>>717104974
God Expanse looks like the most boring nothing setting ever and I seriously doubt their build autism gameplay is gonna mesh well with whatever jank TPS Mass Effect clone they shit out. We could've had Warhammer Fantasy or anything else and it would've been way cooler.

>>717106180
>House at the Edge of Time
NOT THE BELT
I'LL BE GOOD, I PROMISE

>you will never get to fight the evil bimbo queen and her personal guard of sexy all female knights
Its not fair bros...

>>717106180
>>717106439
It's funny because I had complete smooth sailing until that point and then it was like hitting a brick wall. Wild Hunt are just goddamn overtuned.

>>717105970
Whether it's 20% or 1% is irrelevant.

>>717102056 (OP)
Pathfinder and I'm a 40 k fan

>>717106267
Nah the setting is really good actually. It's grounded but full of cool sci-fi shit. Gets almost too wacky by the end of the TV show, which is an era they may end up adapting if they keep going

>>717102152
They'd be wrong. Kingmaker is significantly better than Wrath.

>>717107308
I finished Kingmaker and put WotR on the backburner. I liked it, but I'm just not ready for another massive CRPG.

>>717102056 (OP)

Wrath is so filled with gay woke companions that it’s unplayable. If you played that entire game with the gay Reddit science girl and the black ghetto paladin woman you’re a giant fag. Sorry. The writing is horrible. The dialogue sounds like redditors quipping to each other and completely breaks any chance of immersion.

>>717102056 (OP)
Wrath is the best one.
Rogue is OK but I always just stop caring after the first act.
I understand the appeal of Kingmaker, but I hate it.

AHAHAHHAHAHAH
don't show it to whbros
noononononon

>>717106267
warhammer fantasy is dead. enjoy your primaris age of sigmar

>>717107836
>PFsissy still coping

>>717107672
shut the fuck up, looser

>>717108050
You tell him sister! We love transbians married to half-orc paladins here

>>717108050

Lol struck a nerve? Enjoy your woke shit tranny

>>717107672
This. I played pretty much every crpg under the sun and Wotr has by far the cringe writing I've ever experience in the genre outside of turbo cringe BG2 fan content like the Saerileth saga.

>>717107978
>RT sold more
>It's DLCs were by far more successful, reaching peaks of 17k players
RT won.

>>717102056 (OP)
I have more fun playing RT but WOTR has far more roleplaying options.

>>717102056 (OP)
Kingmaker

>>717108752
>WOTR has far more roleplaying options
>Cannot stop myself from taking the Aeon pledge yet again
I do it for free.

>>717102056 (OP)
RTWP is awful and WOTR isn't made for TB so Rogue Trader is better.

>no minutes long prebuffing rituals before exploring every single time
>no Nenio
>no Wendu
RT wins by a longshot

>>717102056 (OP)
kingmaker

>>717109761
is this body archivable natty?

>>717109280
Janny...

>>717107409
They're quite different. Kingmaker really sells the setting while WotR is more for people who no setting to get in the way of mechanics and le being bad ass.
Which is why a few fey encounters in Kingmaker has more weight to them than fighting archdevils does in WotR.

>>717109761
>loses to a benched Amiri with a meme build

Game on Left is great
Game on right is the greatest CRPG of all time by a large margine.

>>717107672
The difference in quality is massive, WotR feels like if 80% of the cast was Jae.

>>717110373
>WotR feels like if 80% of the cast was Jae.
They aren't THAT bad.

>>717105936
Litterally me right now.

>>717107692
I've started Rogue 3 times. I lose all intrest in chapter 4 every time.

>>717110843
Yes they are.

>>717102056 (OP)
I haven’t played RT, but WOTR is so bad it made me stop liking CRPGs.

>>717102056 (OP)
As it stands Wrath is better. If they fixed the last two acts and rebalanced the combat then RT mogs easily.

>>717111710
>If they fixed the last two acts
Act 2 alone makes RT better
>and rebalanced the combat
As if the autoattack simulator didn't need rebalancing

>>717102056 (OP)
Which one has better gameplay? i know both suck but which one is better?

>>717108569
From fav the worst
Torment, BG1, Kingmaker, WOTR, BG2, Wasteland 3, BG3, Solista, Rogue Trader, PoE, Torment 2, Tyranny

Can you recommend me a new CRPG to play?

>>717111565
>iPhag
>zoophile
lmao

>>717111818
RT by a mile, Pahtfinder is nothing more than a build autism simulator, and it even fails at that because all the builds play the same AND they all pick the exact same feats depending on the archetype

>>717111778
>Act 2 alone makes RT better
It's got amazing buildup but then the end just cocks everything up, I think that's even worse.

>As if the autoattack simulator didn't need rebalancing
Unfair difficulty actually feels challenging in Wrath, hell even Hard is pretty hard at the beginning. But I do agree that once you know what you're doing the game becomes pretty brainless. The problem with RT is that you don't even need to minmax to 1 round every single fight in the game by the end of chapter 2 even on Unfair.

>>717111860
Arcanum is cool and you'd probably if you're a historyfag you'd probably like Pentiment, even if it isn't a real CRPG.

>>717112073
I hear so many mixed reviews on arcanum. Nobody thinks it's ok or 7/10.
Pentiment with a 10/10 on steam looks perfect. Wonder why I've never heard of it. Buying it now, thanks!

>>717111860
if you're open to broader concepts of RPG, I think Roadwarden is incredible. Haven't been immersed in a game like it in years.

>>717112837
For $11 why not. I've always wanted to try some of those 80s DND text games.

>>717111987
>Unfair difficulty actually feels challenging in Wrath, hell even Hard is pretty hard at the beginning
Unfair Act 1 is literally quicksave RNG simulator. Everything after that is installing a mod so that you can stack so many buffs pre-combat that you can instantly delete any encounter. Mythic classes then add an extra layer of limitation on top.

>>717112619
>>717112073
>>717111860
I played all of your list, and I can tell Arcanum is the best of the best; nothing will ever surpass it. I finished it over 10 times since 2001, and every time, I discover something new from that game. (only combat is shit tho i give that)

>>717113296
>Hmm I wonder what build I should try for this replay
>Just end up making a persuasion wizard again
Could be worse

>>717112619
Arcanum is extremely janky, even a 7/10 may be overstating it. Its only true bright spot is the setting and aesthetic, but it does that well enough that lots of nerds think it's a masterpice for that alone. If you want to play through a setting in which the gnomes run an industrial scale rape-program to breed half-ogres for bodyguards though, I can't think of many other games that offer that.

>>717113194
>I installed a mod to make combat easier and now the game is easier, how could this be happening to me?

>>717102956
I love Kitsune women. I hope the next Pathfinder game has a Kitsune lady companion in it who is aggressively Asian instead of being an autistic science nerd.

>>717113443
Nothing beats gunslider manipulative inventor tho. Pic related is the feel.

>>717113540
>I installed a mod to make combat easier
??? Prebuffing is what you do out of combat you idiot. Or are you going to argue that WotR's difficulty comes from having to waste several minutes buffing every character?
Well, technically you're not wrong, it is a pain in the ass, but that's clearly not the difficulty the game's supposed to have

>>717113540
It doesn't make combat easier, it literally just cuts out the time that you have to dedicate to clicking each buff individually before combat.

The "difficulty" in Kingmaker and WotR is knowing what buffs you need to stack in order to win an encounter. The entire games, unless played on lower difficulties, are just stat checks.

>>717102056 (OP)
Rouge Trader.

>>717102056 (OP)
WotR is incredibly woke and gay
I haven't even played Rogue Trader yet and I bet it's far better

>>717113832
Rouge is a sanctioned xeno.

>>717110284
Sorry but slightly modded BG2 still wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6HNvCPMGKE

>>717102056 (OP)
Rogue Trader. Although, I do have a special place in my heart for Wotr

>>717103569
>RT
>Not woke
Sure. Just ignore the biggest woke character ever made.

>>717114204
My man!

>>717114204
>Abelard, let the crew know that trans rights are human rights

>>717102056 (OP)
rogue trader because it's not a multiclassing simulator

>>717114549
Yea, Im playing kingmaker for the 4th time and it just hit me I should dip into alchemist on every character.

>>717114549
RT is more annoying with its level up every 15minutes of gameplay and reading 50 feats on 6 classes

>>717114858
>Annoying
That's the best part about RT.

>>717114858
favorite the feats you want so you dont have to scroll through the whole list every time, you big dumb. thats what the star icon is for

>>717102056 (OP)
Pathfinder WOTR is that game I keep coming back to when I want to fill the void between other games. I wouldn't say it is the best CRPGI like Wasteland 3 more but it is solid. I last played Rogue Trader when it came out but it was full of your typical Owlcat jank that I am simply waiting a bit more before doing a deeper dive.

I've put hundreds of hours into kingmaker, wrath and RT.
They're all...just okay, honestly. Mostly played them for nostalgia bait/build autism. RTs build mechanics are pure ass though and the game is hilariously easy even on unfair if you have any remote idea about what you're doing.

I have fun with owlcat crpgs, but the writing is pretty mediocre and the complete lack of actual reactivity in dialog and the near zero consequences for your actions is a big turnoff. My heretic run on RT was inexcusably bad.

Also lex imperialis in RT is so much lower quality than void shadows, its not even funny. I'm pretty burnt on warhammer autism, so I'm probably going to sit the next expansion out, and maybe the next game for a bit.

>>717115128
Isn't about time to play an actually decent crpg? You've been at this for years.

>>717115327
I am not entirely sure who you are referring to.

>>717105419
>massive
>look inside
>1/4th of the game is spent on loading screens
>another 1/4th on managing shitty crusade and fighting shitty wannabe homm battles
>another 1/4th on prebuffing on every map
>finally, the last 1/4th is spent on watching your party autoattacking
Broooooo... doooooood... this is hella hecking epic...

>>717111878
>if you have pictures of animals you must fuck animals
Telling on yourself

>>717115285
So what's good?

>>717102056 (OP)
RT has generally better writing but Pathfinder's character building is better, and it's less unfinished.

>>717102056 (OP)
Rogue trader is owlcat's best best work so far.
However, BG3 is the best game in the genre.

>>717115487
i made my best guess based on where we are
can you blame me

>>717104953
It's not like it matters since your cum is going to get drowned out by the demonic cum from her brothel escapades

>>717116016
BG3's story and companions suck, though.

>>717115731
For RT? The general overarching story is okay even if its filled with strange moments. Like coming back from Cammoragh and your companions who were destitute 2 seconds ago have instantly reverted to their normal selves despite undergoing intense torture just days prior, and your companions that didn't go are just acting like nothing happened
For some reason on my first run I really didn't expect the big bad was really going to be Calcazar fucking with you from the start. Basically every fucked up event that happened to you or your retinue or your empire he either knew about in advance and did nothing to stop it, or was actively encouraging these events behind the scenes

If you're into power fantasy, wrath actually does a better job storytelling wise. Kingmaker feels more like a classic rpg rags to riches type story.

>>717116175
Wow just like Pathfinder

>>717116016
>BG3 is the best game in the genre
lol, lmao even

>>717116175
They're fine, plus I don't really care - I play videoGAMES for GAMEplay, and the only other CRPG that can against BG3 in terms of gameplay is DOS2.

>>717116423
he's right

RT has THE worst "evil" path Owlcat has managed to write, namely in terms of reactivity. It's so bad, it's comically stupid.
And no, sadly not in a "ha ha heretic is so silly!", but in a "we didn't bother with this, so everyone in your party will just suffer an aneurysm and ignore everything you do lol" type of bad.
It was overall embarrassing.
Considering that Dogma playthrough is retarded for the simple reason RT may be one of the few Warhammer games where 90% of the people are aware the Emperor is bullshit and therefore you feel like you are roleplaying someone who is genuinely dangerously stupid, it leaves you with... Iconoclast.
AKA everyone's cumrag.

There should have been no branching paths in RT.

>>717116424
bg3 isnt even the best baldrurs gate game and gameplay is ass its literally barely above WotR pure because there are height levels.

>>717116558
>you feel like you are roleplaying someone who is genuinely dangerously stupid
but that's appropriate for 40k

>>717116424
>I play videoGAMES for GAMEplay
So you're a retard then, because the worst aspect of CRPGs is always the gameplay. The story, companions and role playing are the whole fucking point of RPGs.

>>717116558
>RT may be one of the few Warhammer games where 90% of the people are aware the Emperor is bullshit
What the fuck are you talking about? Every Imperial citizen you meet believes in the Emperor

>>717116558
>you feel like you are roleplaying someone who is genuinely dangerously stupid
Par for the course in the Imperium.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Herman_von_Strab

>>717116705
>The story, companions and role playing are the whole fucking point of RPGs.
CRPGs up until about BG2 were all about dungeoncrawling with little story thoughbeit

>>717116613
If you can't form a coherent sentence you should abstain from trying to argue on the internet.

>>717116705
>because the worst aspect of CRPGs is always the gameplay
I know, that's why I like BG3 and DOS1 and 2 so much. It's proven that CRPGs can have engaging gameplay.
>The story, companions and role playing
They're fine in BG3, as I said. Role-playing especially is better than anything owlcat's produced, that's for sure.

>>717116705
Anon, the roleplaying is the gameplay. You don't even know what roleplaying is, which is typical for an owlcat thread.

>>717116016
BG3 has the best role playing. Since, at least in act one, you can do most quest the way you want. And it has tons of meaningful choices. And obviously, it also has the best production. But everything else, Wrath and RT does better.
I like them all, but RT > Wrath >> BG3
Wrath is actually closer to 1k hours if I include pirated version

>>717116558
It's kino.

>>717116923
If you can't comprehend the sentence just because I used 'pure' instead of 'purely,' you're not worth arguing with

>>717102056 (OP)
I like WotR because it has a roguelite mode, if Rogue Trader had it I would play it more

>>717117023
>everything else, Wrath and RT does better
The gameplay (AKA the most important part of a videogame) is miles better in BG3. That includes both combat and exploration.

>>717117232
>encounter design
people beat bg3 solo honor mode

>>717117232
I honestly prefer right, left side just falls over and offer no challenge making the character building in your Crpg pointless

>>717117232
>AC 75 +57 to hit immune to everything
Yep, that's an owlcat game, alright.

>>717117383
>heh there are people that can beat X game blindfolded, that means the game is easy
And yes, BG3 is easy, so is WotR, but you're still retarded

>>717102056 (OP)
is there any reason to play kingmaker?

>>717117447
>I honestly prefer right
Honestly, that's probably because you were dropped on your head one too many times.

>>717117383
What's your point, retard? What made you think that image has anything to do with difficulty?

>>717117471
urn based combat in both games is fundamentally similar. I’d argue that Wotr has better system overall if it included elevation mechanics. Baldur’s Gate 3 has superior encounter design, but it becomes largely irrelevant due to how easily the game can be exploited through overpowered spells and items.

>>717117705
Owlshat cultists think "difficult = good" (for them "difficult" is when you have to pick 5 good feats ("good" = +1 to hit rolls) out of a pile of 500 worthless ones)

>>717117909
>everyone who doesnt like my faggy DOS3 lore rape game has to be owlcat cultist
the only cultist are deranged BG3 faggots who think its the best game ever just because its fully voiced and has mocap

>>717117849
>turn based combat in both games is fundamentally similar
It isn't, wotr feels like shit and it's still bugged (pit spells) years later, because it's an afterthought in that game.
>I’d argue that Wotr has better system overall if it included elevation mechanics
Peak contrarian retard.
>Baldur’s Gate 3 has superior encounter design
Yes, it does.
>but it becomes largely irrelevant due to how easily the game can be exploited through overpowered spells and items
Have you tried not exploiting them? Do you have so little self-control you need the developers to throw overtuned enemies at you so you can feel good about being able to add 1+1 in feat selection? Fucking retard.

>>717118115
As someone who doesn't like the lore rape (especially Viconia's), I can safely say BG3 mogs the shit out of WotR

>>717118115
You're literally the first person to bring up voice acting and mocap, so far I've only seen people saying they like BG3's gameplay more, which of course they do, because it is vastly better.

>>717117909
>implying these games are difficult
They're complex but not difficult. Just play them on easy

>>717117558
I mean it's unique. If you want a cRPG where you are literally a king managing the kingdom between quests, this is it. It's not just a gimmick, it's like half of the game

>>717118170
>Peak contrarian retard.
0 arguments, the turn based mechanics is better in wotr than retarded free/extra action abuse in bg3
>Have you tried not exploiting them
you could write a book with how many broken items,potions and mechanics are there in BG3 which trivialize the game

>>717116016
Fallout 1 mogs BG3

>>717117558
the story and companions are better than WOTR and the gameplay is basically the same. Kingdom management is fuckin awful though and encounter design is somehow even worse.

>>717118268
>BG3's gameplay
and majority of gameplay is watching dialogue and overly long cutscenes

>>717118668
>Kingdom management is fuckin awful though
I liked it. What I didn't like is that the only guy I could roleplay in that game is a king. It kind of limits your options, a crusader is a much more open ended role

>>717118372
>>implying these games are difficult
I am not, some other retard is.

>>717118474
>0 arguments, the turn based mechanics is better in wotr than retarded free/extra action abuse in bg3
What sort of argument do you want to hear? You literally just said "it better", it objectively is not. Wotr is a game made with rtwp in minde, turn-based is an afterthought and it shows, glaringly.
>you could write a book with how many broken items,potions and mechanics are there in BG3 which trivialize the game
Do it, then. Also, what are you even trying to prove with that nonsense here? Do you think that difficulty somehow elevates one game above the other?

>>717118763
Gameplay is exploration and combat, I'm not counting dialogue.
>majority
It's closer to 60/40, latter being dialogue. Act 2 for example is almost entirely combat and exploration.

>>717102056 (OP)
I dont need one to be 'better' I like them both
I have 5x the hours in wotr though
going to do another rt run when they finish dropping dlc

>>717102956
She is funny thoughbeit?

kingdom management and armies can be mitigated with the bag of tricks mod. Once addressed Kingmaker is the superior Pathfinder experience. The cast in WOTR is insufferable.

>>717119340
>I am a researcher!
>JK, I am a kitsune researcher!
>JK, I am a demon cultist!
>JK, I am a golem with the memories of someone who is all of the above!

The layers of OC Donutsteel are a bit too thick and they by no means intend you to find it "funny" that it ends that way, either, so it all sucks as a result.

>>717118115
I like it because I can make a barbarian, fighter, rogue, and have the game play differently each time, despite all 3 being melee-focused classes.
Melee characters in owlcat's pathfinder games play LITERALLY the same, every single one, no matter which of three bazillion archetypes you pick, it's nothing but fucking autoattacks. Even grappling (which doesn't have any actual animations or effects btw) is done by autoattacking, ffs.

>>717119562
>The cast in WOTR is insufferable
I get that it isn't great, but I don't understand how people compare it disfavorably to Kingmaker. Furry VS cucked half-orc. It's a draw.

>>717119239
>You literally just said "it better", it objectively is not
it using PnP system designed for turn based combat, im not saying that gorrilion trash encounter in Wotr is a good but that combat system is arguably better than the shitty 5e D&D BG3 uses, if you replaced it with wotr system the combat would unironically be better.
>It's closer to 60/40, latter being dialogue
and you think thats good? thats borderline visual novel tier and combat would feel like even smaller part of the game if they gave us animation speed option so i didnt have to watch 10 gnolls slowly go through their turns for 2minutes.

>>717109280
I'm probably going to start up another run this winter
only main mythic paths I haven't done yet are aeon and lich, probably going to flip a coin and then either go full melee or gish since my last character was a DC caster

>>717119963
It's not just the playable cast they are referring to.
WOTR does have literal cannibal whore from hell, another murderhobo bitch who goes around screaming I FUCKING LOVE MURDER but it takes you +2 acts to be able to act on it, traitorou spider slut and so forth, but what it mostly gets fucked by is how every single NPC from the crusade is horrendous.
The tranny, the orc lesbian, the fucking Queen.
It's all horrible.
The cuckorc and whorelf were at least unique in their dynamic if you want to salvage it with some excuse, AND they were presented as unhealthy PTSD ridden individuals in a toxic volatile situation for which you can execute them basically anytime.
WOTR barely presents any of its unhinged individuals with those labels and graces.

>>717120190
>it using PnP system designed for turn based combat
And it doesn't work, because the game is made for rtwp first, turn-based second. Or more like fifth given the quality of turn-based mode.
>combat system is arguably better than the shitty 5e
The fact is, BG3's combat blows wotr out of the water as it is, without any speculation and what if replaced this, what if replaced that.
>thats borderline visual novel tier
Visual novel is 0/100, how in the name of fuck is that "borderline", you hyperbolic retard?
I'm done wasting my time on you, piss off.

>>717120368
>WOTR does have literal cannibal whore from hell
Best PF girl btw

I liked WotR's companions more than anyone in Kingmaker

How is this even an argument? Are Owlcat shills that delusional? Combat is and has always been the worst part of their games. They cannot do encounter design to save their lives.

Canon KC is
>Aasimar
>Female
>Bard
>Chaotic Good
>Azata
>Romance Arue
>Ascension ending
>Impregnated with twins

>>717120895
But 99.9999% of the game is combat.

>>717120680
Which says a lot about the crumbs we are given.

>>717120368
>murderhobo bitch vs *holds up spork* goblin
>literal cannibal whore from hell vs I FUCKING HATE LIVING manlet
>traitorou spider slut vs There's No Option To Dislike Me halfling
Order in the balance, balance in the order

>>717121141
Nah, she's good

>>717120594
>And it doesn't work
it works just fine you are just too retarded to separate combat system from a game to judge it on its own merits
>Visual novel is 0/100
and BG3 is close to 10/90 if you realize majority of combat is spent watching enemy turns

>>717121207
>>murderhobo bitch vs *holds up spork* goblin
Nok-Nok is better
>>literal cannibal whore from hell vs I FUCKING HATE LIVING manlet
Arueshalae is better
>>traitorou spider slut vs There's No Option To Dislike Me halfling
Linzi is better, and yes there is an option to dislike her, it's just that you can't kick her out, but you can treat her like shit and ruin her questline if you want

Its crazy how /crpgg/ became less knowledgable than random people on /v/ and now has to make little outposts here where they get shit on anyways.

>>717121306
The works of a waifufaggot's brain truly are mysterious.

>>717121431
>/crpgg/
You mean the Owlschizo general?

>>717121465
Huh? I have male characters there. I even have 2 in A tier.

>>717121610
Yeah but your favorites are mostly girls and anti-waifufags get heavily triggered by that

>>717102956
>sloppa
Retard you've been typing this shit trying to fit in too much.
You don't go sloppa you use creativity with the fucking sibles Pathfinder is 2
You typed 3
Slopfinder
You've been leeching off stagnant memes too long. Probably a fucking redditfrog jak spammer.

>>717121306
>Snoresei completely forgotten
based

>>717121681
Rightfully so.

>>717121681
As they should, considering shit like that list putting la fucking lmao cassia, Argenta and the murder slut anywhere out of the trash.

>>717121940
>la fucking lmao cassia
Best Owlcat girl
One of the best RT companions
She just makes you mad because she's a pure and demure romanceable girl

>>717121313
>just separate this one thing bro just imagine it in a vacuum bro think hypothetically bro no it doesnt matter that the thing is in the game bro you just gotta think what if other thing was another thing also separate it :)
lilbro really thought he was cooking with this one

Why are anti-waifufags so deranged?

>>717122008
>>717122162
Back to your wanking corner, cumrags.

>>717102056 (OP)

Tried playing through WOTR twice and i was just kind of done, rather, fatigued with it by the time i hit alushinyarra in chapter 4. Just dropped it both times unfortunately.
Rogue Trader on the other hand hooked me from start to finish, and while i think the Commoragh stuff is the alushinyarra of RT, it's not nearly as bad, and way shorter. Plus i can more or less just kill all the annoying dickheads super fast.
Definitely considering another replay, if only to break the game again with a rock saw and infinite movement points+(slash) attack points.

>>717122380
I prefer WOTR but Chapter 4 is such a fucking drag that I don't blame you.

>>717121306
That's a strange list, better to post the real one instead.

>>717122162
They're so obsessed with hating waifufags that they immediately get triggered by any character that appeals to them, regardless of romance

>>717122474

>bros, we should make chapter 4 the Dragon Age 2 of chapters and force the players to run back and forth 500 times, but they can't just click a spot and auto-pathfind to the location, first they need to rotate the camera in the correct position 5 times in a row

i just can't understand WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>717122240
Cope

>>717121306
>Not including any of the black companions

>>717102056 (OP)
Just from a character and writing perspective it's Rogue Trader. Everyone feels like actual Warhammer characters who are relatively distinct from each other, and it's able to take itself seriously while still having some tongue in cheek humor.
WOTR's characters felt like tabletop gamers playing characters, which I get was probably intentional, but it meant that everyone was spewing out dumbass MCU quips all the time.

>>717121465
Sorry lil bro not everyone wants to bend over to your gnome husbando

>>717121306
Queen of CRPGs (Camellia Role Playing Games)

>>717122878
The fact that you associate tabletop players with that kind of behavior is repulsive in the extreme and shows you've never actually played a single tabletop game in your life, and are basing your perception of the activity and its players off of e-celebs and youtube videos. What a faggot you are.

>>717117232
This is accurate as fuck. It gets to my problem with BG3 though. I had much more fun my first round but once you play it and know what to expect its replay value is unfun.
Owlcat on the otherhand I find more fun the more I play it.
I don't like roguelikes but BG3 was the one game I think would be much better that way. It desperately needs a radomization mod.

>>717123219
Nah he has a point, it's undeniable that there is a nu-audience for TTRPGs and they DO act like that, precisely because they're aping e-celebs and youtube videos.

>>717123278
>I find more fun the more I play it
How though? There's no actual encounter design and every area is just a tunnel into a statcheck fight that contains no tactics or strategy, just an auto win or auto loss depending on whether or not you had half a brain building your characters and, in Pathfinders case, remembered to buff everyone beforehand. Can't see how shit like that "gets more fun" the more you do it, it's mind numbing in the extreme.

>>717121306
Edgy. Who's the dragon and why the undead lady?

>>717123006
More like the queen of cuck role playing games lmao

>>717117849
Isn't Mortismal Gaming who is the biggest fan of Owlcat and a very expert CRPG reviewer the one who said infront of millions and multiple times that BG3 is objectively the best CRPG but his favorite one is WOTR?
He also admits the gameplay in BG3 is the best in the genre.

Not my words btw, he literally said that on video.

>>717123957
That nigga liked Veilguard

>>717123457
Fair, but on the higher difficulties it is more tactical than you think. Plus there is resource management.
To counterback BG3 has actual no tactics or strategies on the second run. Even on the higher difficulties you already know what to expect and copy what you did last time, especially as you are more limited in options.
I have no excuse for the buffing though, you are 100% correct it is just awful.

>>717120907
based azata yurifag
incoming melty from farquad

>>717102056 (OP)
WoTR and it's not even close.

>>717123469
The dragon is Aisu, the companion you get as hippy mythic path.
Undead lady, you mean Jaethal? Because she is by far the best character. Looks, personality, story, quest resolution. She is a genuine S tier.
While Camellia is a perfect miracle of the universe, and my all-time favourite character, and the love of my life. I can understand why she is divisive. Jaethal, is just straight up a great character.

>>717123957
>objectively the best CRPG
That would be Fallout 2 but my favorite is Fallout 1

>>717123278
This is very stupid.
BG3 gets even better with more subsequent runs because the encounter design is highly dynamic and allows you to approach each encounter from multiple angles, i played the game four times and each time i played combat differently, i enjoyed trying out different tactics to achieve victory.
In fact my 2nd and 3rd playthroughs were significantly more fun than my 1st because i had more knowledge of the game mechanics and i was able to create more neat combos because of that.

>>717102056 (OP)
Rogue trader

>>717124116
I never used her cause of the whole healing bullshit. I don't get her class so I normally just turn her into a shitty tank so I don't have to heal her. Just wondering what I've been missing.

>>717124119
Good for you, but im talking about Mortismal Gaming. Are you Mortismal-san?

>>717121306
>Pasqal in C
>Jubilost and Daeran in D
Deeply unserious list, and I say that as a camelliafag myself

>>717123491
Why is Owlcat so obsessed with putting cuckshit and whores in their games?

>>717124375
Yeah, I was lying in that video.

Is the combat in Rogue Trader better than Wasteland 3?

>>717124375
Good for you but I'm talking about myself. Isn't it nice how we're all talking about whatever the fuck we want even when that's completely irrelevant

>>717124579
Why you got triggered?

>>717124632
Huh

>>717124190
Im sorry you are a lonely autist with a shitty memory and retard brain. Games a joke even on the higher difficulties, you know exactly what to expect. You are clearly a genetic deadend waifufag who let's talking to sim women cloud his shitty judgement, lol. I mean you'll never fuck a woman but if you did you'd see bg3 is just a meh game and no one should brag about 4 runs.

>>717123957
>Mortismal Gaming
>very expert CRPG reviewer
not only i dont recall this faggot ever calling bg3 best crpg ever he is also a unapologetic sellout with horrible taste in games, called Veilguard goty and his top games includes garbage like Elex

>>717105605
Player base does.
PF1e is fun because of the depth and autism.
PF2e is worse and dumbed down in almost every regard and players hate it

>>717124703
>waifu waifu waifu waifu waifu waifu
Absolutely obsessed and mindbroken, he's right btw and I don't like any of the girls in BG3 they're all shit (except Jaheira, but you can't romance her)

>>717124470
Clearly because CRPG waifufags seem to eat it up.

>>717124517
No. That said I found Wasteland 3 was all about getting the first suprise attack. So it was annoying having to chained to that. I did find Wasteland 3 better though.

>>717124703
You are actually stupid holy shit.
Unless your game is completely random like some Roguelikes then you will know what to expect on NG+ and beyond.
Game depth shines when the player is presented with multiple variation of interactivity to solve obstacles, this is why Mario Odyssey has better gameplay than Lost Levels despite Lost Levels being significantly harder than it.

And stop project your incel frustration on 4chan of all places, its pathetic.

>>717124707
Are you comparing yourself to the Mighty Mortismal Gaming? the legendary CRPG king himself? lmao
Show your steam page NOW if you dare, show me your achievements and trophies you whiny cuck.

>>717124974
Kek, but im right, you are a lonely incel loser who never went to college. Just some poor fag with shit memory, bad social skills, who can't even discuss another point of view without tossing insults. Thats why you played your shitty easy waifu simulator 4 times and bragged about it, lol.

>>717124470
They're russians

>>717123957
>Starfield is otherwise a very great rpg that is very easy to recommend
yeah I really value this guy's opinion

>>717124371
She isn't that good for combat. But I love everything else about her.
>>717124410
I find the way Pasqual talks to be annoying. And I don't like admech aesthetic.
Jubilost is an arrogant annoying manlet, and daeren is a one an even more arrogant, effeminate, sarcastic faggot.

>>717102343
Played bg3 for the second time with friends. It's honestly a buggy linear mess. Extremely fucking overhyped game.

>>717124783
Ummm Jaheira eh... You play BG1 at release?

>>717125276
>who can't even discuss another point of view without tossing insults
Severe lack of self awareness

>>717125363
It is a great RPG actually. Just one with a bad main quest, and most people never got over that. But main quest in Starfield is like a tutorial mission

>>717125276
>who can't even discuss another point of view without tossing insults
Have a look at your own posts.

>>717125363
But when Mortismal Gaming says that he actually 100% the game.
Did you 100% the game? lets face it you probably didn't play it.

He tries to be positive to keep getting copies, its called business you idiot. But at the same time when he ranks games there is no favors so its 100% his genuine opinion.

You are the type of idiot that can't read the subtlety and in-between the lines, and then act surprised when things happen.

>>717125456
I replayed it on honor mode and my battlemaster Laezel and Divination Gale raped every encounter before I could even do anything, the game's a meme and ballwashed by people who don't actually like crpgs (os2 is way better too since at least it's not afraid to molest the player a little)

>>717107409
I like Kingmaker more but there is a lot more downtime in it. Wrath is pretty much non-stop from start to finish rather than Kingmakers long form storytelling so it doesn't feel as long. Kingmaker also has like ~50 hours on Wrath.

>>717125492
No, but I still liked her even if she wasn't the best one (that would be Viconia)
Similar to how Leliana was best girl in Cisquisition even though she got mogged by Morrigan in DAO

>>717125515
>>717125571
Yea, I responded to the low IQ faggot. If you follow the conversation I was pretty polite at first. Incel just couldn't take it back.
Also hilarious me talking to this loser made you feel triggered. That says a lot...

>>717102056 (OP)
What kind of weirdo prefers RT? Just warhammer fags I'd guess. Owlcat's only saving grace is build autism. Their stories and characters are only getting progressively worse for every one they make.

>>717125638
I replayed WOTR on unfair and breezed through it no a single reload, it was too easy.

>>717125638
>I autistically followed a guide how to make a broken meta build and now the game is easy? WTF!

>>717109863
Prob not the pecs, but everything else.

>>717102056 (OP)
Can I start with this Pathfinder game?

>>717125823
I didnt know about buff mods and found the game way too hard. I still don't get why they released a game thats unplayable without mods. Just fix it in patches.

>>717125793
>build autism
Is that even a thing when 90% of the options you get are trash you never use?

>>717125983
>way too hard
How? thats impossible, its a retard proof game where you can breeze easily through it just by making Angel Oracle builds, i didn't even reload a single fight, i cleared everything first try with no challenge whatsoever.

>>717125638
We've been doing an "evil" run, and it's hilarious how transparent the lack of thought a morally evil playthrough got. You essentially just do a normal playthrough all over until the end. It's so fucking lame.

>>717125959
You can but if you love it your robbing yourself of kingmaker. It will feel underwhelming after.
If you can't get into kingmaker though than you lose nothing by skipping it.

>>717125997
The beauty of choice is "never use" is subject. I would never use student of war that becoming a hot target for buildfags. RT lacks that, the characters are their worst yet, and the story is hardly anything to write home about. I guess if you're only in it for 40k stuff it's probably nice to have a game not flop for once.

>>717126134
Correct, Wrath of the Righteous evil runs are so bad and lame. I completely agree with you.

Even PCGamer wrote an article due to how bad it was.

https://www.pcgamer.com/being-evil-sucks-in-pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/

>>717126134
How the fuck is joining the goblins or the cult the absolute the exact same as doing the good guy route?

>>717126141
Does it have obnoxious city management elements? I heard something about that but I might be confusing it with another game

>>717126114
Uh did you actually read my post you retard. Are you ESL, I litterally explained it. You must have the reading comprehension of a child which explains you bragging about copying a YouTube build. How brown are you? If you need me to use smaller words and explain more I can?

>>717126173
>the characters are their worst yet
Opinion dismissed

>>717126352
Because it doesn't fucking matter, since the game continually pushes you to be led by the dumb good guy Squidward in your head.

>>717121685
Retard.

>>717126378
>He thinks Wrath is too hard

>>717126464
The Emperor is not a good guy and you can literally just ignore him, what? And he has nothing to do with what you do in act 1 and 2, you can massacre the tieflings and join the goblins just fine, he doesn't care, you can join the absolute and decimate the harpers and what's left of the tieflings and again, he doesn't care

>>717126464
he manipulated you so hard you somehow think he's a good guy

>>717126363
Yes and it used to be awful. It's a lot better now but definitely go on easy and you can skip it all if you want.
It's not bad it just used to be way too difficult and a easy way to end your run.

>>717126445
I killed both Argenta and Yrilet in the Commorragh.

>>717126134
Yeah it's a joke considering a "good" player can just do 90% of the evil content goodishly until the "randomly kill everybody" option appears and then opt out. Even something like siding with Nere just results in gimped future content, less loot (objectively one of the best boots in the game), and the privilege of a generic zombie named "Nere" at Balthazar's room in the gauntlet

>>717126553
Without buffbot wrath is too hard. Crazy how your retard brain didnt catch that. Truly you must be braindamaged as im objectively correct.

>>717126685
>Don't bring Argenta to Comorragh
>Can't kill her unless I do
>Same for most characters
Thanks, RT. Makes perfect sense to only give me the chance to kill the people I like enough to actively use in my party.

>>717126786
>Without buffbot wrath is too hard
Average Owltard

>>717126891
just more genius decision from the ruskies. it's amazing how they get worse with each game instead of better.

>>717126607
>>717126583
The fact is you shouldnt have to interact with him at all through the fucking game if you choose not too. Why are you defending a linear roller coaster storyline

>>717126891
I mean as a demon why would I care if you sacrificed your bench warmer you found off putting. You might as well just sacrificed Ralph from HR.

>>717127042
>game makes you interact with an NPC
>"THIS IS BREAKING MY ROLEPLAYING IMMERSION!!!"
So do you take this issue with Pathfinder, or other CRPGs, or does it just bother you when BG3 does it?

With the Fifth Crusade, Owlcat Games has unsuccessfully attempted to create an expansive and immersive world. The overworld army combat and city building are merely copies of systems that are done better in other games, and it all ultimately ends up being a bunch of time-consuming rigamarole that destroys the pacing of the core RPG experience. Sometimes less is more.

>>717126973
Yea, every owlcat player says that. So you can't read, can't think, can't write so resort to pics, and brag about your youtube build.
Absolute pottery. Anyways thats enough English lessons for you, post another pic than fuck off.

Wrath of the Righteous mythic paths are not balanced, some paths have more content and care into them than others and thats the Mythic paths, the jewel of the game, because everything else is downright shit.

The wearer's melta weapon attacks cost -1 AP less and melta weapn range is increased by +2 cells.

>>717127256
You're wrong but instead of calling you a shitter I'll blame owlcat for not making them engaging. Filler can have purpose if it's filling out the narrative. Random battleship battles and the crusade shit were bad because they were only loosely related to the overall point of the game and barely move the narrative forward (or not at all in RT's case.)

>>717127236
Bg3 is insufferable with it and you're simping if you don't think so. It locks you into a cutscene over and over and an entire plotline that it pushes you to interact with for the entirely of the campaign. Are you fucking stupid?

>>717127571
Every time I play their games I hate them. Every time I replay their games I love them. I think its just the learning curve thats such bullshit.

Unlikeable allies, ridiculously long loading screens, -constant- disruptive pointlessly petty random encounters accompanied by aforementioned ridiculously long loading screens both before and after, voice acting apparently performed by Speak & Spells and anime hacks, absolutely tedious healing / quick item system...
Just awful. An irritating chore every step of the way

>>717102056 (OP)
I think RT is 'better' but WotR still does things that no other game provides.
I'm glad I have both.

>>717125778
>If you follow the conversation I was pretty polite at first.

>Im sorry you are a lonely autist with a shitty memory and retard brain.
>You are clearly a genetic deadend waifufag who let's talking to sim women cloud his shitty judgement
>I mean you'll never fuck a woman but if you did you'd see bg3 is just a meh game and no one should brag about 4 runs.

>>717125778
>I responded
You didn't respond you just cried.

>>717127749
Im thankful every day Im not part of the tik tok generation. This is litterally a list of attention span problems. Im trying to be a dick but your brain is so obviously broken and you don't even know it.
Please please please go on a camping trip with no electronics. I guarantee your life will be infinitely better after.

>>717127972
Yes, now post everything from before. Thats not how our conversation started.

>>717128045
The resident 4chan cuck is giving life advices.

Peak comedy.

>>717124775
2E is even more designed around character-optimization autism while being worse as an actual roleplaying system.
Stop being an old-good-new-bad retard.

>>717102056 (OP)
Rogue Trader has zero replayability.

>>717128107
I did. He called your ideas stupid, and explained why (This is not an insult, btw. It was targeted at your argument, not you as a person) and then you start flinging insults at him, like the ones I posted.
Go through the posts yourself, and try to look at them in an objective manner. You are the one with the issue, not him.

>>717128045
>game is poorly programmed
>HURR DURR DA TIKTOK
Stockholm syndrome? Retardation? Hard to tell.

>>717107836
4k concurrent players in a game that's fully single player, has no mountmogcheevos to justify multiple runs, has been finished and solved for years, has no updates and zero replay value other than people wanting to play the game for the sake of wanting to play the game is fucking insane even by far more budgeted games, which wotr wasn't. RT is unlikely to have such a retention when it arrives at that point in time.

I'm getting my ass kicked on core even with Bless up 24/7
what am I missing?

I'm on my first playthrough of RT and I think I'm almost finished (chapter 4). What should be my next game: WOTR, Pillars of eternity or Tyranny?

>>717129126
looking grim any way you slice it anon. should probably do the reverse of your order here.

>>717128045
Imagine defending 10 seconds long loading screens for every tiny location change (on a gen5 nvme ssd btw).
Please please please stop sucking owlcat's dick.

>>717104823
>noooo I can't do x
>gets told how to do x in 5 different ways
>REEEE BUZZWORDS

>>717129074
A million other buffs. What level are you? Bless is nice, but you need a myriad of other stuff to go along with it, namely Haste

>>717129351
>illiterate brownoid screeching about /pol/ can't comprehend English text
Run that shit through another algorthim rather than chatgpt or whatever you mudblood types are using these days.

>>717129715
I'm level 6 I don't have access to level 3 spells yet other than like one cast of haste per day that doesn't last for shit

>>717102056 (OP)
these games stay in early access for a fucking lifetime and yet they release so buggy as to be barely playable. how do they do it?

>>717130485
>I'm level 6
At that point you can get
>Barkskin on your tanks
>bone fists
>Animal stat buffs
>Elemental protection communal depending on what you're facing
>mage armor on your dex tanks
>prayer before harder fights
>heroism on your heavy hitters
And probably a few others too depending on your build

>>717130221
>illiterate brownoid screeching about /pol/ cannot comprehend english text telling him 5 ways to get rid of the characters he doesnt like
kek

It's really difficult to get into 40K autism games when you are forced to play the Imperium.
It's like being surrounded by retarded people while being aware acutely of the reasons they are worse than IRL subhumans but being forced to roll with it.
It's just dull even from a roleplaying perspective.

>>717130854
Faggot, I'm the one who said it was easy to get rid of the tranny and blacks in Wrath. Delete yourself from reality and try again in the next cycle.

>>717131946
Yeah, and you're still wrong, never ever forget that you can't get rid of Anevia until act 5 at the bare minimum lol

>>717132050
That's also not the case unless owlcat changed it.

>>717131946
no, this guy >>717132050 said that.
he also told you about how to do it for rogue trader, but instead you threw a shitfit screaming about pol out of nowhere.

>>717132120
Owlcat didn't change anything, it's always been this way and you're either lying or a retard that's way too sure of himself despite not being able to recall jack shit

>>717130737
but those only last for minutes or rounds

>>717132383
Uh, no, it was right at the start of the campaign. You just say fuck off and he fucks off.

>>717132501
Can you post a screenshot then? Or a video?

>which turd is best
Just play BG3 lil bro

>>717132608
Can you?

>>717132639
No, because you can't get rid of Anevia until act 5, as I said. Are you retarded?

>>717132741
And I said you can get rid of him pretty quick. At least I posted proof that I played the game, you obviously didn't or were too stupid to find the dialogue option. Probably because you're mexican or someshit. Lemme translate my post for you:

HOLA AMIGO
GET OUTO HERO AND PLAYADO EL GAMEO FAGGETO ANDALE ANDALE NIGERO

>>717102056 (OP)
>Pathfinder
>Actual pretty accurate depiction of the tabletop ruleset and lore
>Rogue Trader
>Not accurate at all to the tabletop ruleset and completely ignores 90% of the specific subsetting's lore

>>717102056 (OP)
I prefer epic fantasy over space fantasy, so wotr. Though i like playing both

>>717132926
There's nothing epic about kikefinder.

>>717132907
who gives a shit if its accurate to table top

>>717132859
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and convince myself that you're being retarded on purpose, but if you're serious, try replaying the game and kicking out Anevia before act 5, then pretend this discussion never happened once you realize you're wrong

>>717133157
Maybe you should replay the game and try not being a fucking brownbrain in the next life.

I get that it's the first crpg for Warhammer and kinda has to show off all the factions but I still hate that over half the party members are high ranking members of outside organizations that are just with you for their own goals and leave your crew after.

>>717106223
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

he called it shit for tasteless retarded unfunny people
because it's shit

>>717132926
Witcher 3 & Cyberpunk mog anything Owlcat made in their whole life.
Crpgs are very overrated when it comes to writing.

>>717102056 (OP)
Pathfinder WotR is ass. Garbage game

>>717133976
Filtered

>>717102056 (OP)
Pathfinder WotR is good. Amazing game

>>717121306
camellia was annoying mysterious and I didn't give a shit about her, her scheme or her milquetoast preppy pickme facade

ember was genuine, fun and spooky mysterious where I never really was sure what the fuck was going on with her and wether i should laugh at her, mother her or fear her

The black girl from wotr isn't on the list but she was sort of boring but atleast felt like a real person, had some flaws and doubts and insecurities and wasn't trying to actively be annoying 100% of the time

>>717121306
Awful taste kill yourself camtard

>>717129302
>>717128803
>>717128175
LOL! Boys, we both know your depressed with adhedonia. Im just showing you a door. Do with it what you will, I don't give a fuck. If im wrong than ignore, but Im not.

RTWP or turn based for WOTR?

>>717134594
Ember was the best written character in any CRPG I'd ever seen, but fell off hard in the final half.
Camellia was written for me the utilitarian, to see the hubris in my ways and reteach me the important lesson of sunk cost fallacy. Had my good character hunting the maid staff in the maze hedges. Outstanding writing.

>>717121306
My list

>>717135514
>to see the hubris in my ways and reteach me the important lesson of sunk cost fallacy
When did you learn that lesson? When she came up with the most bullshit excuse ever made as she orgasmed and ate human meat post murder?

>>717135563
Jae, Wenduag and Nenio I disagree with. Jae is a larper terrified of being nothing, Wenduag is le trauma and le trauma bonding, but well done, Nenio makes me laugh (shoot me, the Baphomet and Nocticula dialogue is great).

>>717133563
"statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged" is a phrase originating from a meme about how actual terms used in real scientific terms sound funny despite their real applications

that's twice in a row you've endorsed an idea you disagree with via not knowing the actual meaning of the phrases you're using

>>717135631
I knew she was evil the moment I saw the necklace. I was 51% sure she was full of shit the moment we went to the whore house. At the end I was 99% sure but a 1% chance to stop hells gate seemed worth sacrificing the cleaning staff gor.
Game theory is easy, bayesian game theory is fucking hard as hell.

>>717135715
>Wenduag is le trauma and le trauma bonding, but well done
No better way to cure the trauma than by humiliating her publicly

>>717136102
>Wenduag will absolutely cuck you unless you treat her like absolute shit and abuse her
What did the slavs mean by this?

>>717102056 (OP)
WoTR somehow made every hour experienced in a 120 hr+ crpg fucking kino. RT is good but it drags a lot more especially in the later acts.

BG3 bad. Pathfinder good. That's all I have to say.

>>717133505
You mean just like WotR?

>>717136201
>What did the slavs mean by this?
Wenduag is an official paizo character

>>717139625
>wandering paladin
>serial killer
>cave troll
>cave troll(girl)
>petty thief
>homeless girl
>Areshkegal's used goods
>noble fop
>clan chief of a dead civilization
>some cleric the queen found on the road
>a high ranking member of a knightly order
>succubus who seems to be on a first name basis with the entire abyss
>assassin for hire

I think on the whole their rank is less questionable than their capabilities

I just can't get into w40k. All that technobabble is unbearable and also the fact the game expects you to have strong opinions on the setting from the start. Like i give a shit about the emperor or heretics or whatever when i barely know shit about it

>>717139625
You are leading a crusade and everyone is either a Crusader or got attached to you during the fall of Kenabres. RT on the other hand has shit like an Arch Magos who leaves you to lead an entire fleet the moment the story ends.

>>717140876
>You are leading a crusade and everyone is either a Crusader or got attached to you during the fall of Kenabres
And then the game ends and they leave, in fact, all of them do

>>717140225
She's a minor villain whose only relevancy is serving as a boss fight

>>717116163
I was trying to sully her stuck up cunt but if she wants to play russian roulette with her womb she's already deep in dirt

>>717141268
I just checked and it's true, they literally all leave, the only one that's not mentioned to leave is Woljif (unless you make him evil, then he leaves) but even then it's not stated that he stays either

>>717140821
>also the fact the game expects you to have strong opinions on the setting from the start
You can literally ask for info about the most basic bitch shit that everyone should know such as what a navigator is

Any other games with KINO moments of denying godlike powers? The only games that come to mind are Divinity: OS 2 and Throne of Bhaal.

>>717136796
How the fuck does RT drag on? When the main criticism of the late-game is how short and rushed it is. Alushinyrra alone is longer than act 4 and 5 in RT put together

>>717104974
>And no, they're making an Expanse AAA game too,
Yeah no shit. None will ever want to make 40k AAA game

>>717148093
Space marine 2 came out not that long ago

>>717147746
>How the fuck does RT drag on?
Nothing happens and choices matter less up to the end. There's the resolution of Footfall and the very end but everything in between feels artificially padded out without much meaningful content. This becomes very apparent upon replay.
t.still need to start up lex imperialis

>>717148152
>Space marine 2
>AAA

>>717125849
I didn't even have to follow a guide the gameis generally pretty easy unless your a complete normalfag at rpgs.

>>717102056 (OP)
wrath, honestly. the writing and characters are somewhat more bearable in rogue trader, aside from the few strong standouts like Regil in wrath, but the system is mindless and you can get the the point where one character can solo entire maps with a few support moves from other characters. It's dull, and the build options are noticeably more limited.

>>717148338
>the writing and characters are somewhat more bearable in rogue trader,

>>717148338
>you can get the the point where one character can solo entire maps with a few support moves from other characters
Just like Pathfinder
>and the build options are noticeably more limited
Pathfinder build variety is a meme, they all play the same

>>717111860
>tyranny is at worst
>wasteland 3 is higher than it
Just why anon?

>>717148404
Yeah they're not more bearable, they're like a 100 times better.

>>717148497
You know why. Tyranny wastes it's concept and Wasteland doesn't. I wish it was the other way around, but it isn't.

>>717125823
what a retarded flex
this is a turd world loser for sure

>>717148497
I love Wasteland 3, truly believe its one of the most underrated videogames out there. So unique with consequences that I feel matter.
Tyranny I didnt give the fair shake it deserved but I had a hard time getting into it. Just felt like a more primitive worse PoE to me. I did tap out 25% in though so my opinion on it is worthless.

>>717126786
>Without buffbot wrath is too hard
Wasting one gorillion minutes prebuffing isn't difficulty

>>717145474
Why is demon the only mythic path that gets romance reactivity?

>>717151138
Small indie studio, pozhaluysta poymite.

>>717127429
who the fuck cares about melta weapons when a simple normal bolter on a arch militant will steam roll the entire game