... are Valve the baddies?

>>717132986 (OP)
you lost, Luddite.

I do use generative AI from time to time for things like inspiration, but I don't know if I'd actually use it in the final product.

why do trannies hate AI so much? dont answer, it's because they buy hentai porn from tumblr artists or something, right?

>>717133201
yeah, their favorite furry knee inflation diaper shitting artists went out of comission and they are still butthurt about it.

>>717133201
A majority of people almost always hate and underestimate new tech. Just watch, 10 years from now, even grannies will be using it in day-to-day life.

>>717133201
It's actually the opposite. Think of who AI benefits: those with no skills. Tons and tons of losers who couldn't achieve anything. "I can't do that, I don't have the talent!" they cried. So they waited until it was literally a button press away so they could pretend like they can do something. People like you see Indians spamming AI slop and think "I wanna be just like them!!!" Think of why. It's because you're worthless.

AI fans are like incels who want people to think that them fucking their own hand is totally the same thing as getting a woman. It's hilariously pathetic. You lacked the will to accomplish anything. Or perhaps you just got a really bad hand in the genetic lottery and genuinely are too unintelligent. Sad.

I used AI to write an AI that plays video games for me, so I'll have more time for video games. It's a real load off.

>>717133201
every anti ai poster uses ai but wants you to stay behind.

>>717132986 (OP)
I wouldn't say that, but i've also been advocating for the use of AI in coding since it started getting popular in 2022, so i guess i'm just on Gaben's wavelength.

>>717133580
Wearing clothes is a sign of weakness since your body cannot survive the raw environment like a dog does. It's pure cope for incels.

You should get naked and go outside right now.

>>717133803
Based.

>>717132986 (OP)
wtf i love epic now!

>>717133580
a retard with a calculator isn't a mathematician. the only people who actually feel threatened by it are, ironically, talentless hacks themselves. mostly porn actors/artists.

>>717133803
Did ChatGPT generate that epic comeback for you? Sorry you chose not to develop any skills throughout your entire life and are now poor, lonely, and depressed. If only you tried earlier, huh? Enjoy your mediocrity.

>>717134116
I'm not threatened. I'm disgusted. And vaguely annoyed too, having to push all your garbage aside online.

>>717132986 (OP)
>are the guys who introduced 90% of everything wrong with current gaming the baddies?

>>717133580
>So they waited until it was literally a button press away so they could pretend like they can do something
You say as you use technology
curious

I'm not trannie but

1) Every single work of creativity I've seen from AI is the definition of soulless slop. The most bland shit imaginable--regurgitated.
2) Whenever I ask AI about something I know nothing about, it seems knowledgeable. When I ask it about something I know a lot about (but I want to learn more) it is full of shit, "hallucinating" right and left. Its the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect on steroids and we've alraedy seen the negative effects on real professionals who tried to use it in their field. We don't need more incompetent lawyers, doctors, or, god forbid, engineers
3) Ever talked to AI customer service? ASS.

It probably has its place in entry level something or other.

>>717133580
Nothing you said made any fucking sense

>>717134116
>a retard with a calculator isn't a mathematician.
A calculator won't solve an equation you aren't sure which you need to use for a problem, dumbass. Meanwhile, AI will try to solve your problem with a completely nonsensical answer. I've seen retards like you bring up the "hurr durr calculator" rebuttal a hundred times already, even though the applications of that kind of tech are nowhere near as damaging as AI has shown to be.

>>717132986 (OP)
I'm glazing hard here but that seems to be

1. Out of context, he likely said much more than just tell zoomers to learn AI;

2. gen AI is useful really, don't let retards that jettisoned their brains in favor of chat GPT fool you.

>>717133201
I just dont like how it looks and hate how it shits up every website. Also feeding it someone else's work without permission for profit should be illegal.

>>717132986 (OP)
Seeing someone actually use the AI coding features, I'd say AI coding is completely different to the AI art slop that pajeets shit out which the average normie is exposed to. This is what I presume Gabe is referring to.

>>717132986 (OP)
That picture of Gabe is like 20 years old

>ask ai some shit
>it obviously scrapes reddit and gives me shit answers
Can i work at valve now?

>>717132986 (OP)
>Use google
>Get "recommended" plenty of ads information
>Garbage information that doesn't help me
>Go to page 2,3,4,5
>Plenty of replicate garbage that I don't want
>Use chatGPT
>Gives me a list of directions of what to do, explanations & even links when I requested
And that's just the beginning. AI will be improved in the next 20 years a hell lot just like how phones went from a calling & sms machine to a mini computer that can take pictures/videos & surf the internet with ease.

>>717133201
AI can't do shit if you dont know how to use it, its a straight up upgrade to the search engines, and a error finder, which already existed before

>>717132986 (OP)
>cheat code for success in any field
>any field
How the fuck would he know? Brb going to go get a medical license with Chat GPT.

>>717132986 (OP)
Sorry gaben, not buying anything made with AI. If you admit AI use for HL3 I'll be skipping that too. I know, I know, I've been using AI myself since the mormon first put that AID colab notebook out, but I'm just not buying anything commercial that admits to AI use in the slightest. Now if you'll excuse me I have a busy evening ahead of me jacking off to incredibly specific text adventure scenarios I've spent hours perfecting. The biggest realization was I shouldn't track personal stats, I should track the village's stats. Gives me greatest personal freedom while making the AI even more reactive

>>717132986 (OP)
He's 100% absolutely correct.

>>717133201
Shut the fuck up zoomer. If your only "skill" is prompting AI then you're infinitely replaceable, which is the exact reason corpos like Gaben are shilling it so hard.

>>717135635
>its a straight up upgrade to the search engines
Kek, maybe in current dogshit search engines. It is still shit compared to what we had 10 years ago

>>717132986 (OP)
AI is a useful tool for people who have talent. If you feel threatened by it, you likely lack talent.

>>717136278
>talent
AI is literally just Large Language Models trained to simulate talent, retard.

>>717136427
You can't simulate true talent.

>cheat code for success in any field
>everyone and their mom uses it
its not a cheatcode anymore, its the new meta and its flooding the internet with slop

Three years ago AI couldn't:
>make a picture worth shit, just colors and blobs
>carry on a conversation, just kept reiterating the same things
>make music at all

Now AI:
>can make any picture in any style in 10 seconds
>can DM a D&D session giving dialogue to all the characters and fabricating a story
>can make any song with any lyrics in about a minute

I know it's not "good enough" for luddite complainers who think making things makes you special (it doesn't), but in less than five years it's going to be indistinguishable from anything a human created.

https://suno.com/s/sA3nkqZ99mZ47lvP

AI encompasses a ton of shit
they're just tools that can be used to get to end results faster
a whole industry has to learn how to "review intern code" as part of their skillset now

>>717134939
>AI will try to solve your problem with a completely nonsensical answer
Wow, it's almost like AI is a tool that's only good as the person using it, much like a calculator! :o

>>717136739
you are delusional as fuck man. AI makes fucked up fingers. weird blurry faces, and the technology has not fucking improved at all over the last 3 years lol.

>inb4 will smith spagetti

>>717132986 (OP)
It's post gen 6/ post-00s
Everyone is the baddies

>>717136258
yeah it's absolutely insane how terrible google has gotten (and still somehow its not as bad as bing). i've tried other engines.
i wonder if it was censorship, jeets, or intentional sabotage to get more people using AI?

>>717137145
its gotten significantly better over the past 3 years but its still a far cry from reality. i know the term "literacy" is thrown around a lot but the most annoying thing is the lack of AI literacy among normies - and people here. People will call clearly real videos AI or CGI, morso than they fall for fake AI slop. I hate it.

>generate AI image
>have human artist trace over the image
>it's now art drawn by an artist
you can't refute this.

>>717136546
You can simulate anything, humans aren't magical and brains are just extremely delicate lumps of meat that store data on a cellular level.

Valve could benefit this by being based and suggesting that people use
>FOSS AI models
Not proprietary shit living on megacorp owned data mining platforms. You want something self host capable (like StableDiffusion, Llama, DeepSeek etc) that's FOSS with open weights and training data so you can investigate and add to it.

>>717137145
Was the last time you saw an AI image 2023? It can do simple character portraits flawlessly now.

>>717132986 (OP)
You do need to learn how to use AI in just about any job that requires a skill, he's not wrong. They're bad for kneeling to jewish payment processors.

>>717136739
>DALL-E came out 2021 (4 YEARS AGO)
>GPT-2/AI Dungeon came out 2019 (6 YEARS AGO), and could run text adventures
>OpenAI's Jukebox came out 2020 (5 YEARS AGO),
You are retarded & brown, all of that shit has been possible for more than 4+ years now.
The tech is stalling and will result in a collapse that will be 10x worse than the dot-com crash.

>>717138229
>posts a picture with fucked up fingers, wonky eyes, and AI artifacts everywhere as response
anyone who posted in the DALL-E threads should be range banned.

>'cheat code' for success
can someone give an example how it's a cheat code?
i tried using AI to code something for me and it basically stitched together some code that didn't even work and i had to handhold the AI to fix its own code (it couldn't do it btw).

>>717138425
>and will result in a collapse that will be 10x worse than the dot-com crash.
That's the part that really worries me. The economy's already been fucked since covid and the orange retard wants to jump in with both feet on AI. In my more conspiratorial moments in the dead of night it's why I expect there's so much AI development going on in China since they're trying to coax us into a snafu

>>717139385
>US gets USSR to collapse by pushing them into wasteful ventures like space exploration
>China gets US to collapse by pushing them into wasteful ventures like AI
Kino...

>>717132986 (OP)
Maybe there's a reason everyone that's known to have a high IQ is pro AI, and it's only retarded masses on twitter that hate it?

>>717133445
>10 years from now, even grannies will be using it in day-to-day life.
That's already happening though

>>717133580
Dude you are throwing this shitfit on 4chan. You do not have a good life.

>>717132986 (OP)
Just treat AI like wikipedia, use it a bit but don't rely on it too much

>>717132986 (OP)
What does Timmy Tencent have to say about AI?

>>717133731
lazy
couldn't even skew the photo from the blizzard cosby room?

>>717132986 (OP)
I knew it was a matter of time before old age caught up with Gabe.

>Luddites still seething at AI

>>717132986 (OP)
No. I'm an SRE and I use Ai to help me write terraform all the time when I run into syntax errors. It's basically google but less digging through links and more direct answers.

>>717139518
>Space exploration ends up being a bust but still causes the invention of a ton of small things that see shit tons of daily use now
>AI ends up being a bust but... Now you can make your OC mpreg Sonic at levels of detail you could previously only dream
History really is cyclical and everything does get worse with time, both are true!

I suspect if you presented a set of real and AI generated images, 99% of people in this thread would end up failing it.

>>717132986 (OP)
Why do you people worship this guy? What does he know about game development? He's an out of touch rich guy living on a yacht.

>>717132986 (OP)
He's right you know. The only people against AI are the ones that will soon be replaced by it, mostly grossly overpaid IT fags.

>>717133201
lots of jeets use it very badly so low IQs and people who are afraid of the consequences of noticing patterns blame the tool instead

>>717132986 (OP)
he's right. I did comp sci and now I can animate despite zero art training. Get fucked, artfags.

>>717134125
Except you are a nobody because you are anonymous, and will never be anyone of worth since you hide behind anonimity to insult people. Cope and seethe, tranny.

>>717132986 (OP)
Here is an actual truthnvke.

AI is excellent for solving problems you already know the answer to AND can be verified objectively. It can't paint a picture, and it can't create a story, but it can code, it can calculate, and it can iterate and improve those processes way faster than a person can.

For example, I use AI to design websites. I KNOW what the final product looks like, down to the height of the text boxes in pixels and the hex code of the colors they use. Because I already know the answer, I just tell the AI to arrive at that answer, and if it gets something wrong, I explain what's wrong until its output coincides with my pre-existing vision. If that pre-existing vision is bad, it is a failure on my part as an artist, not the result of the AI. If I did it myself or hired someone else to do it, then the journey to get there might be different, but the end product is objectively, quantifiably, measurably identical. The thing is the AI does it minutes while me or some flesh and blood code monkey would take hours or days to, again, get to the same place.

That said, I'd never use it for music or art right now like so many retards do because it can't iterate on those things. If it generates an image, and it doesn't match your pre-existing vision, you can't say "change this detail" or "make the colors darker/brighter". You can only try to make it produce another image from scratch using additional instructions, meaning you'll never really be able to take part in the creative process, just continually ask a retarded genie to give you something approximating what you want until you give in and say good enough. It's completely different.

>>717140134
lots of jeets use it because they're retarded drones who need an internet browser to create something for them, like you.

>>717133580
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

>>717139960
>OC mpreg Sonic at levels of detail you could previously only dream

(it's not lewd if he has no genitals)

He's right, somewhat.
AI (with corresponding machinery of course) is expected to take away somewhere around 30% of US jobs within 10 years, and will impact at least half of all jobs. This is the standard number given by several major financial firms - and it's on track to do so.
Basically it's solid advice, only AI is meant to save labor. You aren't getting rid of 10 million jobs, only to hire 10 million AI engineers. The actual number will be literally 1 percent or less at the end of the day - that's not an exaggeration or anything, AI is meant to save labor and the jobs it replaces will be GONE, and the jobs it supplements will stick around in a reduced capacity.
Basically you should have some decent, flexible computer and AI skills because there's a 50% chance your job will be using AI in some shape or form, so for a future job it will be necessary - the only jobs this won't happen on are jobs where you work in the field - plumber, painter, ect.

Basically you all have been hyper-focusing on art and other stupid shit without realizing that the office workers are gonna go away, the McJobs are gonna be greatly reduced, and in certain areas they're gonna start rolling out automated stores entirely - likely they'll start getting their shit together and loading / unloading trucks automatically somewhere near the end of this.
>>717140456
More or less, apply the saying "50% of solving a problem is figuring out what the problem is" and you've got a good estimate of what AI can do - it can solve said problem probably.
And as most people work a set job where we know the problem they're at risk of AI taking them away, they aren't creatives and they aren't piecing together million-piece abstract puzzles.
People get too caught up in art and chatbots and don't realize that when industries start tweaking models to suit said industry it's gonna wind up being more efficient than hiring some guy to work for 2,000 hours a year.

>>717138425
>all of that shit has been possible for more than 4+ years now
And it was shitty then. Fuck, photoshop has had smartfill for over a decade, doesn't mean it looked good at first.

Every day we get improvements on what AI programs can do, millions of people are training it around the clock.

>ur brown!
Nope. You just can't rotate an apple long enough to describe a unique picture. You think anyone who "resorts" to AI is some kind of swarthy foreigner to cope with the fact you couldn't even put DALL-E to use if you had to. A total blank slate to make anything you can dream up and you turn your nose up at it like it's beneath you. Hard cope.

Even with a magic paintbrush that can create anything you can imagine and you still can't create. Aphantasic drone.

>>717133580
Lmaoing at all the seething replies who'll amount to nothing in life and die having learnt nothing, having created nothing, and having taught nothing. The only people who defend ai art are unironically brain rotted pornfags, corporation cucks and zero skill failed artfags. Any ai fag I see out in the wild, I automatically assume they're retarded and their sperm count is low.

>Haven't made a good game in over a decade
>Fell for the VR meme
>Fell for the AI cancer
Nu-Valve can suck my dick

>>717140845
>AI (with corresponding machinery of course) is expected to take away somewhere around 30% of US jobs within 10 years, and will impact at least half of all jobs.
I'll believe it when I see it, they said the same about self-driving cars and shit. Techbros sell you the moon for $$$

>>717138229
Looks like shit, bro

>>717141384
>frogposter
>worse possible takes imaginable
Unsurprising.

>>717141691
Draw your version.

I'll wait.

>>717136739
AI can

>make songs nobody wants to listen to
>make pictures nobody wants to look at
Wow, amazing!

>>717141635
The thing is that 30% of jobs over 10 years isn't even a lot - that's just 3 percent of jobs every year. They are trying to sell the moon, but at the end of the day industries actually are implementing AI in a wider scale now, and most people don't actually work a real, necessary job.
The number one thing they can cut will always be seen as people. This is true of pretty much every industry. Grocery stores especially are gonna be a big domino to fall, and I think once that happens people won't be able to deny it anymore - that will also be the canary in the coal mine, self-checkout has already been rolled out to the point where there's sometimes only one worker in said store on the registers in a given night, something unthinkable a decade ago.
Now start gradually replacing people in said industry, 30% over 10 years could be literally 1 guy every couple years for a medium-sized business.
>Self-driving cars
Realistically automatic taxis are already on the road and electric trucks are soon to follow, and that major dock on the west coast was planning to automate a huge amount of its workers away but was struggling to break the contract with them. Currently in regards to cars it's more about regulations on them than the actual technology itself.

>>717133580
>I can't do that, I don't have the talent!" they cried. So they waited until it was literally a button press away so they could pretend like they can do something

KEK, I can say the same about 90% of the STEM professionals today who will be absolutely useless if you remove their internet access.

>>717141754
Calling out aphantasic thoughtless bores isn't a "take".

It's literally what you are and why you seethe at AI. A million pictures/songs/videos waiting to be created and you can't even describe one. Go do some math homework until eventually AI surpasses you on rote memorization of formulas too. Then come back and bitch some more about how only losers use it.

All you are capable of is parroting ideas someone else had 2500 years ago and bitching endlessly about a future that's coming no matter what and you can't stop it.

>>717142154
>In a press release, Aurora said the first of its "regular driverless customer deliveries" took place this week between Dallas and Houston. The company had been operating its trucks on this route with safety drivers for four years, delivering over 10,000 customer loads across three million autonomous miles. Now, the safety drivers have been removed, and Aurora has completed over 1,200 miles without a driver.
>Initially, just one self-driving truck will be used on the route, but Aurora has said they plan to add additional vehicles later this year. Each truck is fitted with a combination of sensors and computers that should allow it to see over an area the length of four football fields.
>Aurora has said it plans to expand its self-driving trucking operations to El Paso and Phoenix, Arizona, by the end of this year.
Overall this stuff is coming out now, like literally as we speak. The numbers aren't huge, but if the technology works - and it's already gone through its initial safety tests and is now looking at profitability - we will have literally 10's of thousands of self-driving trucks by 2030. The number of self-driving taxis will be larger, the only reason it wouldn't be is if the various taxi driver unions don't let them operate.

>>717141635
do you not have waymos? i hadn't seen one irl before but a month ago they started showing up everywhere in town

>>717132986 (OP)
Fat people always are.

>>717141774
>>717141774
My chickenscratch version of that that looked like a child's drawing would have more sovl than any AI version. AI art is digital pollution that nobody wants to look at that clogs up every search engine and forum thread. It's slop for degens with zero aesthetic sensibilities who hate human creativity. All they want is their reconstituted slurry and endless deluge of digital sludge "content". Go live in the WALL-E pod and get jerked off by a robot

>>717142154
>Realistically automatic taxis are already on the road
Yeah and they're driven by someone in fucking Bangladesh kek

>>717137924
And your stomach stores copious volumes of semen... What's your point?

>>717142663
NTA
They've only rolled out in specific cities, same with trucks. They're gonna start showing up in huge numbers though as long as they don't get killed by regulations - I'm willing to bet a computer actually DOES drive better than some brown taxi guy listening to pop music.
At some point they'll be implemented purely because they can reduce congestion somewhat.

>>717133580
/thread

>>717137591
It has been like this for years before ai

>>717134116
Isn't this just admitting how fucking useless AI is and will always be?

>>717132986 (OP)
>4 Years Ago
>Hey this AI stuff is pretty neat I can't wait for AI powered tools that will automate all the tedium out of gamedev like retopology, UV mapping, rigging, breakdowns, in-betweens, audio mastering, texture atlas, memory optimization, multi threaded code...

>Now
>So ummm, we trained our AI on all the creative stuff so the only the thing for you to do now is all the soul crushing house keeping stuff, also the code is spat out scales like flies on dogshit so you need to spend the weekend incorporating it back into the main branch, also you're getting laid off in two weeks so we need you to hurry up lmao

>>717137591
The censorship and intentional sabotage 100%, they outright blacklist topics they don't like, I have to use yandex to search for text erotica.
Same reason youtube made it impossible to keep scrolling down when you search for something to refine what you want to find - they want their algorithms to direct you to things that make them money, and some specific thing you remember from 10 years ago probably doesn't.

They are literally destroying the value of their sites because it gets them more ad revenue.

AI is great. I have no animation experience but I can make stuff like this fast.

AI is only a shortcut to success if you compete with mostly non-AI users. If use of AI becomes commonplace, and assuming it will be as good as they believe it to be, it will only result in devaluation of labor, just like with retarded immigrants willing to toil for pennies. Why hire a specialist when a cheap amateur can suffice, or even better, you can do more or less everything yourself? Equalization only benefits the lowest of the low.

>>717143216
>Retopology
It can do this but not the actual initial topology, so the guys doing the topology are still needed and are expected to use the AI now to help them
>UV mapping
It can somewhat do this but often stretches things to absurd proportions
>Rigging
Again can somewhat do this, but often times someone spends all the time that would have been saved fixing a mistake. Good for prototyping maybe.

>>717133580
You're getting replaced, Chud. Night as well learn to make fries and take orders. And enjoy sharing stories with your McCoworkers how you used to code
LMAO

>>717143292
>ad
the what?

>>717132986 (OP)
Gabe sees the future and is giving good advice. AI isn't going away so if you work in tech being AI illiterate isn't a good idea.

>>717133201
They sperg out about AI "stealing" their art even though most art is just r_34 of existing characters which artists themselves "stole".
It's just the death throes of a community on its last legs. AI will have replaced every amature digital artist by the time this decade is over.

LLMs are interesting and can be used for all kinds of things without them being made entire out of stolen data. The problem is theres no realistic way to stop corporations and individuals from raping their way trough the internet and doing whatever they want because theres no laws against doing that right now. Its like someone only now invented a crowbar and theres no specific law against breaking into peoples houses with it. Anyone who is against LLMs just because their being used by assholes is in the wrong.

>>717132986 (OP)
Anyone who was around for when Steam was originally forced on us PC users (before they made that store decently good) always knew they potentially were from that point forward along with their intro of lootboxes and other gacha elements to Western markets when it was previously immediately decried, even if we were in denial for awhile because we liked CS and Half-Life.

>>717143415
uhm this is a bad thing actually because you stole someone's job and burned down a forest and evaporated an ocean or something

>>717143451
AI is a tool like any other. Smart people with skills who can prompt > retards who can only prompt a dog photo.

>>717132986 (OP)
No, luddites are.

>>717143767
>AI will have replaced every amature digital artist by the time this decade is over.
and is that a world you want to live in? Where all art on the internet is made from AI incestuously xerox printing itself over and over and never making anything new, only Habsburg sloppa for total retards?

Without AI stuff like this would never exist
https://files.catbox.moe/v1wstm.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/9z0t4q.mp4

>>717143882
>smart with skills
>using AI
kek, it was already bad with people unironically calling themselves AI "artists", I guess it was just a matter of time where they confused prompting as being some sign of intelligence

>>717134939
20-30 years and AI will be part of the math world the way computers, programming, set theory and imaginary numbers are today.
AI gives you nonsensical answer just like program will give you bullshit answer if your logic is flawed while building it or when there is bug. The only problem is how convincing the bullshit answer will sound to someone who knows nothing on the subject.

>>717143990
normies can only type shit into chatGPT which they pay for

it's people good with computers/apps who can use AI as a tool the best: for example, a good programmer can do more with AI than some dumb jeet with 20 IQ.

>>717133580
this argument can literally be used with ANY technological advancement

>>717143986
Yes I'm sure this is going to make some degenerate furries very happy.

btw Andrew Yang warned you all
The masses would've welcomed AI and further streamlining work in general if it didn't mean people would be left without income

>>717143962
Why not? Digital art is already soulless garbage and an insult to actual art. Digital slop getting replaced by AI is the best thing that has happened to real art in decades.

>>717144114
No I tried sharing it with them and they think its too weird even for them ,
:(

>>717143882
>Game engine is a tool like any other. Smart developers with skills who can code > retards who can only push out asset swaps.

>>717133201
>ask question
>"don't answer it's because of this thing that validates my opinion"
it's because there's still not an AI filter on every website I use that lets me easily ignore what the pajeets and talentless retards with no taste spam upload everywhere actually, and even when there is they still try to worm around it to force me to look at their unappealing dogshit
you can do whatever you want with AI on your own time I really don't care just stop making me wade through even more sewage than I already do just to find the shit I want, I already have to wade through the posts on this shithole

You know you are dealing with the biggest retard possible when they are hating AI.

>>717144067
AI literally saves me hours with just listing relevant libraries, functions or projects I can use. That alone is enough to make it worth using.
Retards ITT can't comprehend how much the fact that AI can "intelligently" comb through ungodly amounts of info for relevant stuff will completely change the world (probably for worse).

>>717144261
exactly, AI is a tool like any other app or computer, the reason there is a lot of "slop" out there is cause most people are too fucking stupid to use it properly or in a good way. Same reason some people make ugly gens and other people can trick normies into paying for patreon AI art.

>>717144349
even if you ignore image or video generation, an LLM can do basically anything with prompts, or any task, faster than an assistant could.

LM studio + uncensored models are so fun to use, and useful. can use uncensored llama 3.1, deepseek, whatever.

Give it 10 years and normies will tire of AI slop in the same way they're tiring of TV slop and movie slop. They'll finally be mad when corpos replace their jobs with AI, but it'll be too late. Fortunately, anyone with a brain knows AI won't ever actually be able to replace human beings and the cost will likely be catastrophic. It'll cost human lives at some point when some retard puts an AI in charge of a nuclear reactor or a heavy equipment movers or something else that seriously needs human beings to run. It'll kill a lot of people or at the very least cause the total collapse of some major company or infrastructure. Then people will hate it or there will at least be regulations put in place. The grift can only last so long before there's genuine consequences to rushing this unfinished and unreliable tech to market.

Thank fuck I work a job that cannot possibly be replaced by this current iteration of LLMjank that isn't even actual AI. Feel bad for all the mid-level tech and office workers that were convinced their basic computer literacy would net them a stable gig forever when it was foretold in the 90s that any job that was basic coding or data entry would be automated at some point.

Art made by humans will never be outdated. Slop always fails eventually. Just gotta sit back and watch the entire capitalist empire burn for a while once this shit fails.

>>717133201
Trannies are a clique and 99% of them are coders or artists who draw shitty anime porn. You think any of them work in a factory lifting heavy shit? No, they are all in a "creative" field. If anything causes their "friends" to lose their jobs then they ALL have to defend each other to destroy it, even if AI is ultimately good. They don't weight the pros and cons or any of that utilitarianism stuff. That's why they say shit like killing is bad but then will celebrate whenever a normal white "cis" guy dies, instead of treating all lives with some kind of dignity and solemnity. Psychotic behavior.

>>717144312
>if I reverse it, it'll totally work
kek

>>717144453
Marvel movies are slop. with AI you can do ANYTHING, you are only limited by your imagination/prompts.

>>717132986 (OP)
The anti ai push is just luddites being upset that they are getting outsourced by something superior to jeets and women.

>>717144349
sure, if you are comfortable following the advice of the redditor that the AI got its answer from

>>717144453
>Thank fuck I work a job that cannot possibly be replaced by this current iteration of LLMjank that isn't even actual AI
except for compsci fags, everyone is saying the same thing as you lol

>>717144542
And it'll still lack human soul, every single time. You can train a computer model for 100 years and it'll never make a woman give you a look that tells you she's in love with you.

If you think AI can do anything you're a husk incapable of real human interaction (autistic).

>>717144667
Until they build a robot that can crawl into industrial machinery and diagnose a mechanical problem using visual input and touch/sensory feedback or troubleshoot an electrical issue using a multimeter and paper-only manuals from the 90s... Yeah I think I'm good for a while.

>>717144693
humans are using computers to do CGI, it's the same shit, AI can do anything and crazy shit so it opens up even more possibilities.

nsfw artist here
I still get commissions but it's kinda sad to see the most soulless and obvious AI users get ton of followers
fuck, even bigger artists that I follow share AI slop and I don't get it

>>717144453
companies only want to force this so badly because it's an infinite money hack, costs will literally just go up forever in their minds because they'll always be able to cut one or two more people and have AI fill in for them as it gets better over time while all products become incapable of flopping when they're made for pennies on the dollar, the endgame is always wrenching out more money and perpetuating/widening the class divide and the AI/Anti-AI sentiment is yet another way of splitting up the common man and distracting from the true enemy as they consolidate further power

it's been so worthless on everything I tried it for

>>717144797
you... you know nothing about automation and AI, right?

>>717144821
Lemme use words your retarded stunted intellect might be able to process: You'll never be able to beat the uncanny valley. Hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution can't be defeated; you will ALWAYS be able to tell if something is fake.

>>717144667
when they have AI that can actually do physical jobs via robot bodies, so yeah not in this lifetime

>>717144823
similar reason so much modern music all seem to use auto-tune and lose the more interesting imperfections of the natural voice

enshitification comes to everything, AI will just help us get there faster unfortunately

>>717144931
And you know fucking nothing about maintenance and repair. AI ain't gonna fix your car either, chet.

gabe jewell hasn't been relevant for 15 years

>>717144823
A lot of artists just don't have an identifying style that makes their shit worthwhile. I have a handful of favorites and they're mostly favorites because they do weird things that AI still can't, or they're good at the story/facial expressions/emotion that make the scene work. Just drawing a cartoon character getting railed was quite frankly NEVER good enough to set someone apart, it was just that a human artist was the only option and the sheer volume of consumers meant some level of business was guaranteed even for the mediocre.

>>717138670
gabe's been fooled by the scammers and jeets, unfortunately.
anyone that knows what they're talking about knows that AI is snake oil for coding.
>it cant correct itself (even with help), cant even see critical errors that prevent the script from running
>it makes code thats WAY too complex for humans to feasibly work with (meaning you cant build on top of what the AI made). note: this does not mean that the code is even remotely good
>it wont design secure systems (ex: the tea app was "vibe coded" (made with AI))
>the way it interprets things is too erratic and unreliable. if you say "make a system to use consumable items" in several instances of the same AI you'll get a wildly different output every time, and there wont be any reasoning for the differences
>has severe problems with long term memory, even if it has full access to your entire code base it'll constantly forget that things exist
>doesnt care about the actual user interface, it wont try to organize it for a better end user experience. the end result could be unusable outright
>same goes for gameplay, the AI doesnt have a metric for "good", "high quality", or even "tolerable". chances are if you use an AI to help you make a game everything it generates will be atrocious to actually play through or interact with
>wont optimize. if you try to make a pixel game chances are that it'll run like an over-bloated UE5 game
thats just off the top of my head
at its core, all this AI crap comes from prediction algorithms that have been trained off the entire internet (which we have had FOREVER, fuck we even had chatbots more than a decade before this AI crap)
doesnt matter how far the shills take modern AI, its biggest problems will never be solved because the flaws exist within the foundation itself
and as the cherry on top, it being a prediction algorithm means that it'll always give you the mediocre solution.

>>717145116
The artists that survive AI will be the ones with incredibly unique and bizarre styles. We're going to see a resurgence of surrealist, absurdist, dadaist, etc. works of art because computers won't be able to keep up. And people who value art will become automatically dismissive of anything that can possibly be replicated by AI.

Physical art will also start having far more value.

>>717144931
Hey dipshit we all know that factories have robots in them, that's not what he's saying. The robots can't fix themselves when they break down. The 5 ton robot arms can't climb into a hole to replace a fucked motor or a burned up relay. There is zero AI in industrial automation, and it's regulated that way, because massive machinery doing unexpected shit that some LLM hallucinated is unsafe for the human employees. There will never be an AI driven robot doing industrial tasks unless it's small and weak enough to be overpowered by an average man, and then what's the point of it?

>>717133580
>Effort is inherently valuable because... it just is, ok?!

>>717134104
Tim Swiney is an AI fag as well and personally ruined ArtStation on top of it

>>717145116
>because they do weird things that AI still can't
like?
honestly I always try to improve my content but as someone who started just before AI got big and the internet decided to go to shit, things look grim and I wonder if there's even a point

>>717145057
right now it's still extremely worthless for all handyman shit like carpentry, auto/similar mechanical repair (HVAC, small engine, etc), plumbing, electrical stuff. Even just in terms of information not like robot plumbers. They just point you to shitty non-sequitur youtube videos you'd find if you just put the search in youtube instead of an AI.

Coding is really all that is worth talking about yet

>>717144584
Most web searches require reddit after the query simply because the internet is flooded with shit for at least 5 years and google fucked up their engine on purpose. It doesn't change much.
The problem is that it lies way too much. If you ask it "does esp32s3 provide better pwm functionality than the old esp32" it will strait up lie to you and say that the newer version is better.

>>717133201
Because its only usage is either pumping out github tier shit code or making the creative process easier for non creatives.

Imagine every game having ubisoft tier dialogue and art that was created without any higher purpose but existing in the game.
Devoid of any creativity or meaning.

>>717145273
It's so funny how most people think AI = Language models with DL, when even a PID controller could be classified as AI depending on the definition.

>>717145317
>like?
Decent looking stomach bulges is the tamest example that comes to mind.
I've seen AI make a bulge and it's garbage.
But also, comics or consecutive images in general. It can make one image, but trying to get a second image with the same characters, with the same proportions, with the same clothing and hair, making a specific facial expression or pose, nearly impossible. So most AI is just one-offs with no context, boring.

a common ai shill talking point is the ridiculous claim that ai is just another "tool"
they like to sell the idea that ai slop is like invention of cars and anyone against is a horse fag
but that's hilariously inaccurate. ai slop is more like crypto or nft. in reality it's yet another meme tech and not an essential invention like wheels and engine.
a spoon accomplishes things, a wheel moves things, an ai slop wastes internet bandwidth. there is a clear difference here.

Never relax around tech niggers. They are nefarious and only care about profit thus will do thier best to shill this shit to general public so investors don't dump their scam

>>717143986
This was playing through my head the entire time while watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLQ_h_LaqA

>>717145494
ah I see yeah I actually try to draw multiple characters interacting or comic stripes as AI seem to strugle with those
good to see it's appreciated

>>717133201
It threatens commission artists because the gooners who would otherwise keep them in high demand to justify charging hundreds of dollars for simple drawings are abandoning them to generate AI smut.

>>717145452
No it fucking cannot. A PID controller is not AI. A PLC cabinet is not AI. A safety circuit is not AI. A Fanuc six axis robot arm is not AI. They're barely even boolean. All of these things are so rudimentary in their design and operation that a particularly smart highschool student could design them.

>>717133580
>Tons and tons of losers who couldn't achieve anything
Like how trannies will never achieve being a woman?

>>717144931
if we got to the point that fully autonomous robot bodies with AI pilots would be capable of doing physical, blue collar jobs while regular AI could handle digital and white collar ones, we would have much bigger ultimate issues on our hands, those being how much all that shit's gonna cost, who's gonna fix them in an industry that will be absolutely flooded with repairmen, and what you're going to do with a constantly bloating population that now doesn't need to work because the AI is doing everything of note? Just sit around all day collecting UBI welfare checks and spending them on corpos of choice while they constantly force out more and more and more content to keep the line going up? Shareholders suddenly disappear? The markets don't matter? None of you think the shit you say on this Polish dogwalking forum through, you just kick the can down the road and that fixes everything until you walk up to the can again

>>717144938
AI can make video that doesn't look unnatural, and CGI can often look shit. It depends on the user using the tools.

>>717145526
This a billion times over. It's the next tech bubble and it'll cost at minimum billions of dollars when it fails, and at worst actual human lives. Right now the video production is still stupidly uncanny, and the tech side of things are unreliable and barely better than a basic search engine half the time.

>>717145526
>Only care about profits

But most people are using AI just for shits and giggles, while it's the traditional artists that screech about ownership and livelihood. Sure, there are grifters that make money with AI generated art, but you can thank hopeless coomers for that because they almost invariably peddle smut.

>>717145297
To a certain point, effort and skills are intrinsically valuable. Trying to pinpoint HOW valuable it is however is tricky, but also an ultimately worthless exercise.
It's why people get medals for running fast while you can achieve much higher speeds with your car and get a speeding ticket.

>>717145619
>stuck to drawing clients self insert OC's with popular characters to live now
coomer artist future looking grim

>>717144821
It's completely different. With any CGI program, vocaloid, etc. You have complete control over what the output is. With prompting, you are just asking an LLM for something until it shits out something that resembles what you asked for.

>>717145526
Ironic post given that now they can use AI that will immediately flag conversation like this
>Government is introducing chat control what do we do? Are there petitions?
>meguminSmile.jpg Maybe there are petitions, idk

>>717145526
people saying AI is a tool understand you can use it locally, giving you control over it
the online services aren't usually tools because the interfacing is so basic and you have no agency over the implements

>>717145273
>>because massive machinery doing unexpected shit that some LLM hallucinated is unsafe for the human employees.
>its entirely possible that we could get a wave of industrial chink death videos that are born because they decided to shove AI into their factories
i now support AI (for third world countries only)

>>717145623
NTA but I'm not sure your point here. I agree that none of that stuff is AI but you definitely couldn't throw a GED 19 year old at a Fanuc robot and say "here ya go champ make it move this carton from there to there" and expect them to do it. You still need very specialized knowledge and real world interaction for that to happen.

>>717145640
If we get to the point you're talking about where the question becomes "who will buy everything the robots are making since no humans are employed?", let's be real, it will not be the fault of anybody who is worth less than a billion dollars. The dumb fuck shareholders are going to push towards this future without realizing it because they are dumb fucking kikes. "Line go up" will bring us to the future where nobody buys anything because robots tooker jerbs.

>>717145619
every artist i follow still seems to be swamped by commissioners, i have to wait for two months before my next one is even addressed. AIslop merely ruined the internet and created the most delusional and infuriating faction of parasitic retards on the internet yet.

>>717145623
There's no strict definition to AI anon, automation algorithms have recently been into the debate of whenever they should be considered AI or not (which is a boring debate since it depends on semantics). Even if you're confusing Machine Learning with AI, a simple linear regression can technically fall into that category.

>>717140021
>use art from an artist with an artstyle that resembles the usual ai slop
>prompt an ai to make intentionally shitty lineart
Unironically works every time.

>>717145805
with image to video you can get specific stuff, you can even specify the last frame to get exactly what you want in another model.

these are simply tools, they can give shit outputs or good ones, it depends on the user.

>>717145952
>>prompt an ai to make intentionally shitty lineart
Ironically, most people who hate the "AI style" just hate how the works are super rendered and finished looking. When you lower the aesthetic value of the AI art they can no longer discern that it was generated and they WILL praise it once it looks shitty enough.

>start learning to draw so I can make my own porn game
>AI slop gets popular
>get somehow decent enough for something that looks good
>credit card companies and gay countries want to ban porn
honestly fuck this gay world already

>>717145619
It will never cease to amaze me how much people are willing to pay for porn when there's already practically infinite porn on the internet easily available for free.

>>717145732
In the context of artistic endeavors, effort and skills can be impressive to the individual but they do not ultimately add value to the finished product for the vast majority of consumers.

A good song is a good song no matter how it was produced. An aesthetically pleasing painting is an aesthetically pleasing painting no matter how it came to be. When there is an end product for the consumer, it's rarely more important to the layman how it was made than is its relevant quality.

>>717145952
last time when someone posted 8x8 image square with images from human and AI, anons started guessing which one is the human.
No one guessed that all of them were AI

>>717146034
the more complex an image is, the more AI shits itself. It's not just because of the rendering, AItard

>>717145874
>you definitely couldn't throw a GED 19 year old at a Fanuc robot and say "here ya go champ make it move this carton from there to there" and expect them to do it
You actually could because the japs made them dead fucking simple to use. Again, they are not AI, but they've taken the computer science out of the equation and converted the compound motor signals to a retard-friendly language that's actually harder to type with a keyboard, than enter with their special tablet. All the operator has to worry about is 3D point coordinates and how fast it moves towards them.
But I do believe a highschooler who's got straight A's in math could also do inverse kinematics (the part the japanese hid from users).

>I'm not sure your point here
My point was
1. I said AI will never have a place in industrial automation
2. Some dumb anon said "ayktchually AI is already there because tyechnikually this thing that's not AI could be called AI from a shertain point of view"
3. I told him off and I hope he kills himself.

>>717146098
source? I remember seeing a thread with something like that, that was so funny

>>717132986 (OP)
Learn to Code

>>717146057
exclusivity
a decent faithfull girl is better than 10 cheap whores

>>717133580
Why does it have to be an all or nothing thing? AI is just a tool that can be useful in a variety of applications. People using it as a complete replacement for shit they can't do will quickly be out-competed by people using it to enhance things they can already do.

>>717145895
Drink bleach you semantics nigger just admit you were wrong.

>>717146057
what percentage of that exists because people paid artists to do it? :)

>>717146181
There's literally no difference in complexity, it doesn't know what it's doing either way. People just hate that they can't measure up to AI but when the art looks like the crap they make then they feel like they can relate to it.

>>717146057
Sometimes you want something incredibly niche, or with specific characters, or in a certain style, or just plain because you jorked it through everything that was available and need new material to force yourself erect.

>>717146098
>"hey! some of these are from humans and some are from AI. can you guess which one is real?"
>"eh sure, that one looks real"
>"HEH WRONG I LIED ITS ALL AI! ALL OF IT!!!"
note how the AI nigger can only persist through lies and trickery.

>>717146235
why lmao? AI would get eventually get good enough so learning that wouldn't be needed

>>717146204
It was like few months ago, I think it was square with old fantasy game or book posters. You know, one with hot woman and hero.
Didn't save it but it was funny

>>717145895
that's exactly why I've always despised this brainless misnomer

>>717146321
If AI creates bad and instantly recognizable slop, such trickery should not work, no?

>>717146321
the one I was thinking of went
>you can't tell
>"I can always tell"
>*posts pic*
>20 people guess incorrectly, raging hard that anon won't grade them

>>717146089
> it's rarely more important to the layman how it was made than is its relevant quality.
I don't think it's that rare. Upon learning a piece of art was AI-generated it is not uncommon for a person's view of it to shift negatively. Specially when you try to pass it off as human-made.

>>717145297
>I DONT WANT TO PUT EFFORT BUT I WANT TO GET PAID
how are you this shameless
even neets put in effort
if you don't put in effort you are worthless

AI is good cause it will replace retards and useless jobs like HR, or entry level idiots who aren't good at computers anyway.

It supplements smart people with a tool to make neat stuff.

Is digging a ditch with a shovel a more worthy pursuit than digging it with an excavator?

>>717146321
no shit, they're deceitful scammers only proving how scummy they are. in a different time they'd do the same with fool's gold

>>717146492
>Upon learning a piece of art was AI-generated it is not uncommon for a person's view of it to shift negatively.
nta but this is called mental retardation. it's completely irrational behavior by retarded dogmatic morons. this mentality will age like milk.

>>717146510
>It supplements smart people with a tool to make neat stuff.
the opposite
it gives brainlets and grifters a tool so they fuck up things for others

>>717133201
Wtf I want to do the cool hard computer thing not have a computer just do it for me automatically... more precisely be paid to do it.

>>717146057
the human mind is an extremely fickle thing

>>717146025
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. If you are animating something in Blender, you have precise control over everything that's happening. If you are doing this with an LLM, you can't make minute adjustments to a single keyframe to manually improve it. You need to give it another prompt and hope that it looks better.

>these are simply tools, they can give shit outputs or good ones, it depends on the user.
The only reason you'd use this tool over conventional ones is if you're too lazy to do it the old-fashioned way.

>>717146498
Who said anything about getting paid? Every single time it is the anti-AI crowd that seems to care the most about monetizing art.

>>717146631
>you can't make minute adjustments to a single keyframe to manually improve it.
yes you can

>>717146325
are thou not aware?

>>717146190
nah, any work requiring any sort of logic cannot be trusted to retards. I design nuclear submarines, and do you know what we have to give sailors to control shit? a literal xbox controller. and we have to make everything retard-proof because you underestimate just how fucking stupid the average person who will only do menial tasks their entire life is

>>717146553
Nah. It is a reasonable reaction to being deceived. If the assertion that it didn't matter who or what created it carried more truth this mentality would not exist.

>>717146391
>reduce image quality to fit in 4chan's image limit, crunching it so hard that most AI artifacts arent noticeable
>ask the AI to create images with an inherently shitty artstyle so that it has an easier time and has much less to fuck up on
>"heh, why cant you tell the difference?"
again, note how the AI scammer can only persist on lies and trickery.

>>717132986 (OP)
When he says learn to use AI. Does he mean learn to use chat gpt or learn to implement AI in your projects?

>>717146643
Of course it's about money anon. AI slop is being pushed down everyone's throat for a reason. Can't let retards figure out the truth regarding ai slop and scare investors away.

>>717146727
>deveiced
They saw a picture and they liked it. The only deceit is coming from themselves, the mental gymnastics to make them stop liking something they liked.

It's fucking retardation.

>>717146734
Leap that wall if you are so great

https://www.realornotquiz.com

>>717146553
>nta but this is called mental retardation. it's completely irrational behavior by retarded dogmatic morons. this mentality will age like milk.
kek get a load of this retard. you do realize that humans have evolved to despise cheating and scamming for obvious reasons right? we're talking here of hundreds of millions of years of animal evolution. good luck waiting for scamming to become inherently acceptable, you might as well start selling pyrite rings

>>717146776
both

>>717146840
not clicking your IP grabber, sorry rajeesh.

>>717146727
im sure people who saw photoshopped images thought the same thing. now its a standard tool

>>717146190
Gotcha. I have one of those robuts in my workplace but I haven't been trained on how to program it. It seemed like that stuff was set up from the manufacturer to be user friendly, I meant like the initial setup n such. But again not my wheelhouse, I fix the bearings and the belts n shit. I also hope that anon kills themselves, as well as all AI simps.

>>717146734
>note how the AI scammer can only persist on lies and trickery.
It's nft/crypto all over again. I fucking hate these hungry jackals the world would be better without them.
fuck /biz/ fuck /g/

>>717146510
>replace useless jobs
>useless
what makes you think that they want to replace the useless jobs but couldn't do it before AI? If they wanted them gone and they were useless then they would have removed them.
They want to replace jobs that can completely stop the corpo if the guys decided to stop working one day.

>>717139749
Holy shit i didn't even notice the cosby picture.

>>717146846
>you made something I like, you cheater!!! scammer!!!
Someone like you hasn't evolved past monkey level.

>>717146783
>I base my argument against ALL use cases of AI on the grifters

>>717146563
smart people > stupid people with AI or a computer or a pen and paper.

stupid people will still make slop with AI.

>>717146975
there isn't a legitimate usage of ai sloppa
you are a shill/useful idiot by default by associating yourself with this filth and deserve to be shoot at a wall

>>717146949
suppose i give you a smoothie.
you ask if its laced with drugs.
i say no.
you like the smoothie.
then i tell you that its laced with enough drugs to kill an adult elephant.
you'd still be happy, right?

>>717146663
By "minute adjustments", I'm talking about stuff like moving an object in a specific direction and ensuring that it stays in those exact coordinates until I tell it otherwise. LLMs do not work that way.

>>717146846
>humans have evolved to despise cheating and scamming
Only certain kinds of humans, it's entirely acceptable to others

>>717146631
one neat way of using AI for art/design is to conceptualize stuff with a sketch -> image to image, or video. you can rapidly prototype stuff or get ideas with the click of a button, from a basic outline.

>>717146920
you dont understand the massive bureaucratic bloat that exists in government and large corporations. like 10% of the workforce does 90% of the work, and the useless people dont get fired because
1. it looks bad to shareholders
2. they are friends with other useless people higher up that are looking to mooch off the system

>>717147092
notably, the "others" have created third world countries.

>>717146864

>>717147090
LLMs output images, code, or text and you can edit all of this. You're being dumb.

>>717139385
trump jumped in on ai because china and india will happily cull half their population to make it work. america is tiny in comparison, and while a good goy country that will die for israel at the drop of a shekel, properly enslaving americans is more difficult. obviously everyone in intelligence knows americans would sooner shoot themselves than the people in charge, so guns are absolutely not a factor, it's just that the government can't just gun down millions of people. china and india can, and no one will bat an eye. america has to compete with 2 slaver countries that have no rules.

>>717132986 (OP)
why do people keep using gabe's pic from 20 years ago

>>717133580
AI fags have to do such mental gymnastics to convince themselves and those around them they don't sound like a retarded loser

>>717146796
Ask yourself why that happens instead of throwing a fit.
A person can look at a beautiful vista, and admire its beauty even though it is not human-made.
A person can lay by a river and listen to the sound of rushing water and be relaxed by the music, even though it is not human-made.
Why is it that when learning that a previously-assumed piece of visual art was made by something other than a human, a person's opinion of it changes? Hell, if you told them a monkey painted it they'd be more impressed, but if you told them it was AI they'd mostly go "Oh."

>>717146870
Whenever you look at pictures, specially of gymbros and gym girls, people point out that sometimes it's possible to see that they photoshopped something. It's typically not a positive observation, because it implies deceit in the same way. Now when it's used in other contexts it's much more appreciated.

Low IQ 'people' should be denigrated and used as slave labor.

>>717132986 (OP)
remember when valve tried to monetize player made mods on steam (valve would get a 30% cut, of course)

>>717133580

>>717146840
This one is a bit too easy.

>>717146796
that no one made and you tried to pass it off as your own. sorry but the AI novelty already wore off and what gets left behind is another generated picture among the billions that were already generated in mere seconds and that anyone can do. you know what else everyone can do? take a dump in the toilet, except you AI jeets of course
>>717146949
>you generated an image that looks like a digital painting that's not actually a painting
>you pretend to have made something in the first place
nice try
>look at this pretty ring, it's made of pyrite and the gemstones are moissanite! it looks like a golden ring with diamonds so why do you care?
nice try

>>717147180
nta but you think the average retard could manage that? probably not

>>717143735
Anon, advertisement revenue.

>>717147116
And they are trying to replace that exact 10 or whatever percent just because the whole system relies on them.
If bunch of dudes said "this system doesn't work for us, fuck this, we are not working" the entire corpo collapses and if more follow the entire everything goes to shit.

I have AI fatigue.

>>717147092
even even the scammers hate being scammed. they're just opportunistic scumbags, another evolutionary trait of course

>>717147270
Because people with the IQ beyond that of a potted plant can very clearly think 2 steps back and realize the basic fact that anything AI generates is just derived from blended up garbage that an actual human made at one point. "Oh" is the appropriate response because it has zero fucking value at all. It's SLOP.

Your weird comparison to the splendor of fucking nature to AI generated images tells me you're an NPC goon with no capacity for complex thought.

>>717147453
fun fact: the AI ghibli craze ended up adding a permanent yellow tint to all generated images. sometimes its not noticeable, but its always there.

>>717147180
The initial point I was making was that comparing LLM usage to any program you'd create CGI with is completely different because you have control over what's being created, whereas you're letting the LLM do the work when prompting. Editing stuff after the fact is a skill in and of itself. Why not do that for something you've had complete creative control over from start to finish instead?

be honest with me anons
is drawing porn even worth it at this point with the amount of slop around?
I really wanted to make my porn fantasy game with shortstacks

>>717147270
It happens because humans have developed a culture of effort worship due to it historically having been necessary for success.

Now that tools are beginning to crop up that drastically decrease the effort necessary, the monkey brain gets confused and lashes out because how could pretty picture exist without ape exerting itself? Ape must have cheated!

It's literally a lizard brain reaction that only showcases how many of us are utter slaves to primal impulses and abhor change for no reason other than that it is change.

>>717147270
dont bother, anon.
the subhumans that shill AI will NEVER be able to understand the appeal of something real and genuine.
if they could, they'd hate it.

>>717147270
>instead of throwing a fit.
\Its a waste of time trying to reason with an illiterate retard.

>>717147343
>that no one made
jfc

>>717143882
>I watched a playthrough so I beat the game myself

>>717135139
>>717147214
It's a good picture

>>717147324
Said anon, while not posting his score

>>717147579
You have control over what LLMs do too.
>Why not do that for something you've had complete creative control over from start to finish instead?
Because it can be thousands of times slower.

>>717147587
It'll be worth it to the niche audience that actually pays money for porn. Fucking zero porn patrons are paying for AI sloppa porn.

>>717147406
obviously thats the end goal, but to replace those people with ai is 100x harder than replacing the "useless" people that just do shit like sort emails and sift through excel docs. the entire system of uselessness revolves around the massive infrastructure necessary to facilitate the small portion of useful people, and you think once their gone the uselessness is going to stay around?

>>717147587
>I really wanted to make my porn fantasy game with shortstacks
dozens of those exist already and theyre absolute garbage

>>717147497
Anon, I'm agreeing with you. The comparison was to meant as something for the AIjeet to reflect on.

>>717147693
>Fucking zero porn patrons are paying for AI sloppa porn.
there's some ai accounts with tons of retarded supporters

>>717147587
it is something that you want to make, is it not?
so you should make it.
have some ACTUAL gameplay and let em be fat like atlyss, you'll have my dime

>>717147497
>anything AI generates is just derived from blended up garbage that an actual human made at one point.
It was a very clever marketing trick to call it "generative" AI when it's really just derivative more than anything.

>>717133172
>>717133201
The sun will vindicate us when it micronovas

>>717147660
1 of them was because I pressed the wrong button.
It's too easy because it's 3D stuff, the ones that were AI generated were lacking in context or were just fucking weird. It wasn't so much about the image quality but rather the subjects and stuff.
The second run was a bit harder though so maybe it's fine.

>>717133201
>why do low-skilled click bait journalists hate AI so much?

It's a mystery

>>717132986 (OP)
You'll see, Gaben won't run things forever. And steam did try to ruin PC modding in 2015.

>>717132986 (OP)
>... are Valve the baddies?
Always were.
>>717133201
I am straight, white and European and i hate AI more than you can imagine.

>>717147728
exactly why I wanted to make a decent one

>>717147857
you are a gay whiny incel

>>717147734
Oh sorry. Your post definitely could have gone both ways. I'm just eager to shit on AI fags, sorry you were collateral. AI simps make me see red.

get mad at AI all you want, I did comp sci and didn't waste 4 years on an art degree.

my prompts > your degree.

>>717132986 (OP)
gAyI is troon coded

>>717147497
of course, ai cant currently replace anything requiring any sort of genuine ingenuity. its just shitty artists seething

>>717147921
If you got an actual compsci degree and not one from DeVry you wouldn't be defending the use of prompts.

where do i post lewd ai art that will get me tons of likes and donators?

>>717147701
Too many people without job = trouble, that simple.
Too many women without job = double trouble.

>>717133201
AI is only good when it comes to field that actually helps society, like medicine. Cancer research gets a huge boost with AI. Meanwhile you retards clap for AI because rich suits don't want to pay workers and you feel entitled to free entertainment. No wonder libshits held the industry by the balls.

>>717147921
its honestly hilarious, art degrees have had a stigma of being useless for decades, and now are they reaping the consequences

>>717148002
ITT

>>717147497
Human inspiration basically boils down to "blended up garbage that an actual human made"

>>717147898
Sorry anon but i am going to disappoint you. I like women. Women with big tits especially and i hate AI and i love videogames.

>>717147990
why? AI is a useful tool like any other, you shouldn't rely on it 100%, but use it to do various tasks. I can't animate or making every keyframe would be tedious, but image to video is simple and fast.

>>717147675
>You have control over what LLMs do too.
Once again, giving an LLM a really detailed prompt to "control" it and manually animating something in Blender are not the same thing.

>Because it can be thousands of times slower.
That's a bit hyperbolic.

>>717148131
>Once again, giving an LLM a really detailed prompt to "control" it and manually animating something in Blender are not the same thing.
It's exactly the same thing.
>That's a bit hyperbolic.
Not at all. I was precise in my words.

>>717148010
and again you are missing one of my points, that its too hard to replace the actual indispensable people because they actually innovate. im an engineer at a major corp, and there is no push to replace us with ai. there IS a push to use ai as a supplement to the "useless" people. it wont be a sudden shift, but it will happen, because
easier = less money for corporations and executives

>>717148116
>AI is a useful tool like any other
Not really. AI is an extremely limited tool and has real use in very few real world cases. What AI is broadly used for is stealing and regurgitating stolen art and stolen literary works.

>jeet thread
>dall3 general retards flood in posting garbage
burn this place

>>717148274
why are you lying to yourself bro

>>717148164
Not even remotely close to the same thing and speaks volumes to how retarded, uneducated, untalented, unaware, and brainfogged you are. I genuinely wonder how you husks feed yourselves without assistance.

>>717132986 (OP)
AI as it is has existed for decades in many fields, you've used it multiple times and you didn't even know it was generative AI because it wasn't marketed as such.

Nonetheless he's completely right, just like many other things it's just another tool, it allows you accelerate shitty workloads and focus on quality.
Just because pajeets are using it to make shitty no style no substance porn doesn't mean it's not an amazing tool, but it won't magically give you good quality, AI just magnifies what's already there.
This is specially true for the up and coming devs, you combine it with the insanely low resource intensive engines and what they can do nowadays and AA/indie developing has never been this easy and accessible.


If more people spent their time learning, using and taking advantage of it instead of crying like retards they'd be insanely ahead of the pack and their personal projects would be popping off but that'd require effort.

>>717148274
and thats exactly what modern artists and writers do lmao. most of the good ones existed hundreds of years ago

>ai art
>worthless
>llm's
>lowered the quality of 90% of online text media, only useful for simple questions that google is too retarded to answer
>video interpolation
>still can't do animations
AI is the most useless fucking technology

>>717148321
>ad hominem cop out
It's exactly the same, they're both tools you have to learn how to use.
You don't know how to use either of them apparently.

Replace 'AI' with 'Infinite Porn Machine' and it's very easy to see why certain people love it and other people hate it. All else is cope.

>shitty artist with ugly artstyle and plain ideas starts posting more complex poses and obviously ai inspired rendering
>people eat that shit up and say it's good
I hate dumb coomers so much

>>717148297
I am speaking the truth. The truth stings doesn't it. AI is mostly used to steal the work of other and claim it as your own. No white man would ever push for AI.

>>717148435
>people like good things
>"REEEE"

>>717147693
>Fucking zero porn patrons are paying for AI sloppa porn.

lol
lmao even

Gonna be fun seeing you trying to argue that that is not enough to be classified as success

>>717143986
Nah, someone would make this even without AI.

>>717132986 (OP)
AI is like a draft animal, it's going to shit and piss all over your floor and you need to constantly monitor it as it works, but if you can wrangle it proficiently you can absolutely blow anybody else out of the water in sheer throughput of content. WITH the caveat that the work itself is not highly specialized and niche.

>>717148274
>AI is an extremely limited tool
hmmm

>>717148471
>good
morning sir

>>717148435
reminder

>>717148449
carmack, timmy, and gaben all push for it
only self-hating liars like you hate it

>>717148328
>it allows you accelerate shitty workloads and focus on quality.
stfu nigger
all AI does is skip all over the creative process
I'm tired of reading stupid faggots like you telling everyone
>ai is le tool

AI is a powerful tool but sadly the world is mostly composed of retards

>>717148391
Lmfao holy shit that webm
>furious prompting with what looks like at least 10 iterations on each thing the AI is shitting out
>all for basic primitives that any competent 3d artist could create in actual minutes
Thanks for hilariously proving my point, retard.

>>717147867
everyone thinks that

>>717148567
>so mentally gimped he can't fathom the implications of that and how it destroys his argument

>>717148612
you don't understand anon
it'd appeal to my tastes and that's why it'd be better than the others

>>717148647
anon.....

it's funny how AI gets associated with jeets only because there are a billion of those retards.

Actual functioning humans can do amazing things with AI. You can not animate 100 frames in a minute or two for example.

>>717148378
>This technology that has properly existed for less than a decade is not perfect already! Fucking pathetic!

Reminder that this is what AI image generation looked like four years ago.

>>717148687
Sure you can animate 100 frames in a minute and it looks like total ass. Your point?

>>717148687
>You can not animate 100 frames in a minute or two for example.
neither can AI without it looking like shit

>>717148687
ai can't do it properly either
>but it keeps getting le better and better!
brag about it when it's good then because it's dogshit now

>>717148560
honestly most of that shit isnt surprising, I had to browse through research papers like that at a job I had in the past, and like 80% of them are bullshit "compilations" that essentially grab a bunch of data produced by ACTUAL research projects and combined them to draw some sort of useless/derivative conclusion. people just make those because in a lot of research roles there is a quota for "research" papers so a lot of bloat exists

>>717148730
i didn't say that
and it's still fucking useless and absolutely valueless
ai tards at their brightest

>>717135635
This picture makes me seethe, and I -LOVE- AI shit of all kinds, from text to video to audio, great tech and I hope it shoots to the moon.
Still, this AI bro shit needs to go.
>you know whatd make this pb+j better?
>ai
>well call it pb+j+ai
>with ai well have the best pb+j ever made n evolve it passed the traditionl resipe
These niggas trying to cram AI into everything just pisses me off. It's like some kind of magic bullet to fix everything ever to them.
Literally every company is doing AI shit right now for basically no reason. I think my least favorite is the AI call centers / customer support.

>>717136739
I still like that time Glaze+Nightshade grifted the hell out of the internet, even if it's annoying they're still getting away with it.
>"just use this tool and they can't make AI of your content!"
>"look at our results in this little infographic, this dog is now a pickle!"
>"our tech literally poisons the AI, chokes it out forever and 100% works"
>"what do you mean it doesn't work, see? [shows the infographic again]"
>AI bros begin testing G/NS to try to break it, but they realize it simply doesn't do shit
>both G/NS only work under very specific circumstances under the absolute best case scenario, even when the AI bros do their absolute best to give the tools the best possible chance of working
>things like Twitter/Facebook/dA have compression, and that alone breaks the NS/G effect
>just makes the art look like shit for no benefit

>while this is going on, people are swearing that AI will never ever be able to make hands and that AI's hit a ceiling
>video AI is better than image AI was a few years ago
>most AI does well with hands unless you're using shit out-of-date models/services for your images

>>717138229
>posting this as proof
>image has D-tier AI eyes
>hands aren't great either
>tech greeble shit hides some of the AI-isms
Kill yourself in Minecraft, and take your old-ass AI model with you.

>>717148532
>2022
I honestly forgot about that period of time when image gen AI came on the scene before chatgpt. When I think of AI now I just think of when chatgpt came on the scene first.

Anyone remember back in like 2015 or so when google had that creepy imagegen that would put psychedelic eyeballs and dogs into everything? Dreamgen? Deep Dream? Something like that. Waifu2x came around that time too, that was a fun time.
Man we've come far huh.

>>717132986 (OP)
they're just being realistic
and calling it a "cheat code" isn't really accurate, more that knowing how to use AI is going to become a requirement to even get the job in the first place

>>717148778
how would you do this without AI anon? make every frame then animate it in premiere/whatever?

you cant beat the speed of a computer or the rapid generation of content.

>>717148815
>80% of them are bullshit "compilations"
...so a paper review?

>>717133201
Brown, shit-covered hands typed this post.

>>717148815
um, meta-analyses?

>>717148932
of course it's one of the anons posting this deus ex faggot that thinks AI it's good

>>717148936
sure but they dont actually review or scrutinize the assumptions/methods etc, they just take the data and results and rehash them for good boy points from whoever distributes their funding

>>717133580
>those with no skills
Which is why the only people who throw a fit when you mention AI are talentless ”””artists””” on twitter.

>>717144453
Two more weeks

>>717148859
deep dream was great, turning peoples hands into squirrels.

>>717148391
>half the webm is him reprompting to try and get the wings that he wants
thats actually fucking hilarious.
reminds me of rimworld, where i'd keep pressing "make new pawn" until i got one that i liked, and usually spent two fucking hours on the colony start screen trying to get a good starting crew.
and then, when i got sick of gambling for the output i wanted. you know what i did instead?
i downloaded a character editor so that i could just hand make my starting crew from the ground up.

anyways jesus fucking christ thats way too many polygons for a plane that simple.

>>717149075
but I'm talented
I can draw my waifu with a nice fucking fat ass

>>717149047
it's an example. that can be done in a little over a minute. now would you rather spend weeks or months to keyframe animate stuff, or use AI image to video to do it fast?

of course I prefer non-AI anime for example, but for content creation it has MANY applications.

>>717148932
he wouldn't, people like that are worthless even in a post-AI world

>>717149008
you are overestimating the content of those types of papers, they say shit like "this compound was found to have good antioxidant properties and so was this other compound, so if you combine them they might have even better antioxidant properties!"
real deep and profound analysis

>We literally have technology now that was the stuff of science fiction in earlier decades
>Instead of being stoked, most people seem to be disgruntled or outright angry at this development

What the fuck is wrong with people?

>>717148532
>it totally real guys

>>717149117
So you're acknowledging the webm proves you wrong... But moving the goalposts like a loser.

AI is fun cause you can do creative shit with it. I'm not going to render a fucking cat in blender and animate it slowly, when I can do this in minutes.

>>717149187
>We literally have technology now that was the stuff of science fiction in earlier decades
I don't see we having robo sluts, flying cards, teleportation devices
instead we got
>shitty AI that steals from others and does derivative work
how is that science fiction you dumb fucking nigger

>>717149187
we know that it will be abused by corpos and governments

>>717149251
wtf is that real?

>>717149297
same thing is happening with the internet sadly

>>717148932
>>717149136
>>717149251
>this is what AI shills, pajeets and grifters deem as "creative"

>>717149374
and you?
you're creative right?

>>717135661
Gaben was studying medicine before he quit Harvard to join Microsoft. I'd say he knows a fair amount. Chat GPT isn't going to get the medical licence for you but it will be used for things like Kenhub to train your brain in understanding medicine. It will also be able to help in your bioinformatics work immensely.

These tech boomers know what they are talking about because they grew up in an era where there were fuck all distractions. Most boomers are utter retards but the tech ones are smart as fuck boi.
>Learn coding from the ground up, normally as a side hobby
>Become incredibly rich at a time when everyone else in the west was kinda rich
>Are so rich and pathologically seek to learn so you just dig into the most arcane science
>Carmack built rockets for fun
>Gaben builds submarines and does neuroscience R&D
So yeah, I would say these guys know a lot. Only issue is the wealth gap.

>>717149374
it's an example. how would you make the cat holding a katana otherwise?
>make a 3d model
>render it
>keyframe animate it
>make sure the fur texture is good
>do all this in a 3d space
can you do all that in 1-2 minutes? cause that's what wan 2.2 can do (video model).

>people actually PAY for AI porn when they could generate for free.
>it's not even high-quality AI art using a super computer. Not even touched up. Literally just slop.
I don't get these people. I've heard of "thinking with your dick" but jfc. This has to be the lowest bar in porn ever. Maybe donating to twitch thots is still worse.

>>717149296
>shitty AI that steals from others and does derivative work
That’s just art in general.

>>717149296
How is the ability to prompt a computer for a visual representation of ANYTHING and getting it in under a minute not something you'd see in an 80's sci-fi flick?

>>717149353
It took many years for it to start going really bad, with AI it's so fast that we won't even have golden age

>>717149374
social media is flooded with those garbage videos
the only thing AI is actually doing is ruining the internet with endless trash

>>717149491
opposed to the endless crying from fags like you?

>>717141635
>I'll believe it when I see it
See
>>717140456
People who already use AI for the sort of thing you used to give an intern. It's maybe not replacing jobs as much as it's preventing new ones from coming out, but that's still basically the same thing.

If everyone are cheating you are get raped by better cheaters

>patreon artist rips off manga artist
>fine
>AI image to video does something similar
>BAD!

>>717149517
kys jeet bot

>>717148219
They won't cut too many unless there is shit like UBI.
Maybe AI won't replace engineers in the next 5y, but what about indians with AI?

>>717148490
There are a lot of them, and they get a lot of money.
Turn out, generating huge tits/cocks everyday gives a steady revenue.

>>717148391
I was that initial anon you replied to. This illustrates exactly what I was talking about. You keep asking Claude to make a plane for you, only to end up with a sausage with horrendous topology. You would have done a lot better making it yourself. It's the hard way, but it's a better way. I think the only tool getting used here is you.

>AI generated content is soulless and terrible
>BUT also I'm endlessly seething at its existence for some reason
Hmmm...

>>717149238
... what?
not only am i not that anon, its not even remotely close.
the webm shows a guy gambling with AI in an attempt to get the output he wants, its half guessing game for the AI's correct trigger terms for the output and half genuine RNG because of how unpredictable the AI is.
a proper tool doesnt require you to play a guessing game.

>>717149609
oh sorry i wasn't talking about the braindead indian computer "engineers" i was talking about engineers that actually design new, innovative systems and processes
and it will come, just look at the biotech field right now. they massively overhired because of the wuhanic panic, and now they are laying off thousands of people. and where are these people coming from? primarily admin/hr/other support groups, not the people actually making/designing products

the people most mad about AI are people threatened by AI.

aka patreon slop artists. or worthless HR employees.

>>717149891
>there is no trial and error or learning phase when you use tools
the absolute state of this retard

>>717148567
we'll you're forgetting to factor in the 5+ years and the money it took for the 3d artist to become competent enough to do this in minutes

>>717148537
>carmack, timmy, and gaben all push for it
>a bunch of faggot hacks and industry plants are pushing for yet another cancer
LOL! LMAO even!

>>717148510
no one would make photorealistic 3d renders of that

>AI faggot get's to the pixiv top
so what now?
it's slop the way to get popular now?

>>717148490
AI slopers deliver better stuff and do it faster. The consumer has spoken.

>>717149974
imagine the shit carmack can do with AI

>>717149974
elon musk, jeff bezos, mark zuck do too :)
name some impressive white men

>>717149943
trial and error =/= having to play a guessing game every time you use your "tool"

>>717149806
but it's soulless and terrible. In dalle threads are these pics looks similar

>>717150117
In that case, you have nothing at all to worry about, and no reason to be mad. Right?

>>717150117
just add in the prompt "make it soulful and not terrible"
easy

>>717133580
Damn dude you didnt have to fucking kill them like that

>>717150105
>retard with no argument plays a semantics game hoping I'm retarded
you are retarded

AIchads won
Trannies lost

>>717150343
>these things are fundamentally different because [explanation for why they are fundamentally different]
>SEMANTICS!!!
christ just kill yourself

>>717133201
Because most antist are trannies and now they're scared that they had to find a real job

>>717150442
>>these things are fundamentally different
they aren't

>>717132986 (OP)
I used to be against AI, and then I found out that some fans used AI to dub Super Dragon Ball Heroes, and the dub was pretty accurate but I realized creatives are the real monsters because that story was fucking terrible.

>>717133201
I think its incredible but it wont make things better, the will use it to reduce costs but that wont mean better games or savings on the consumers end.
The investment is so high that it'll all be absorbed as a temporary gain for shareholders and all that will happen is game design will get lazier.

>>717150481
Kek. Agreed. Imagine AI starts a new renaissance and creates AI Rome with art that would take a man 100 lifetimes to create.

>AI generated content is soulless and terrib-ACK

>>717150670
>tranime slop

>>717150463
they are.
once you learn a tool, you never need to guess or learn it again.
with AI, you'll need to play that guessing game every time you go to do something.

>>717133201
>Sup fellow 4channers why are you hating on AI? Are you some kind of tranny? C'mon saa-I mean, bro, let's not act like trannies around here hehe.

>>717150709
>once you learn a tool, you never need to guess or learn it again.
this man has never used a tool in his life

>>717150670
>no sankarea

>>717132986 (OP)
Always have been.

>>717150727
Example?

>>717150727
no anon, im just not a subhuman that forgets things as soon as i learn them.

>>717150795
>>717150802
>I learned how to shoot a gun
>I never miss
absolute giga retards

>>717144312
You can't possibly be more retarded than a jeet.

>>717150670
Why is the perspective so fucked?

>>717150851
it's based on human art

>>717150602
Stop playing AAA slop, retard. Of course they will make the games cost 100 dollars and AI will be used only to shit out games sooner with less quality.
For small devs who actually want to make something good the AI tools will give them
>any texture they would ever want for free
>zero time spent on useless shit like modeling desks and chairs
>full voice acting
>NPCs with an actual AI and not just having to draw rails on the ground for the NPC to follow and like two triggers of friendly/hostile
>any soundtrack the dev could ever want
Any dev who cares about what they are making would make their own models, write the story and make the levels. But now you don't need to spend millions on voice acting and be an expert at making 100 different chair models.

>>717150883
Actual tranime usually has semi decent perspective
That looks like images spliced together, the girls in the midground are like 2 feet tall

>>717150851
it's a fisheye kind of lens. Not exactly a fisheye though

>>717150723
>Saar ai bad because it will make me lose my job, also how will millions of my fellow saaars be able to immigrate to the west on h1b if there is ai?
>but i am not a pajeet you are one actualy

>>717150904
>useless shit like [details]
See this is it right here, AI will always just be "good enough".
Yet all the classic games were made by small teams of dedicated artists focused on details, so unlike you I can't handwave them.
I appreciate the ease and access it provides, ill give you that.

>>717133580
Based and gets to the root of the issue: AI is dysgenic as fuck. It not only elevates the ego of the arrogant useless, but it actively makes everyone who uses it even more useless and helpless. There's this notion that those against ai are some kind of dumb neanderthals, but ai normalization, much more so than smart phones even, will only serve to accelerate us towards idocracy.

>be artist
>search for waifu on booru
>find high quality AI art of her doing giga numbers
>great construction, pose, scenario, anatomy, and style (not that hyper-rendered AI style)
>only issue is that the cum has perspective issues (forgivable mistake)
>you will never be able to draw something at this level
Learning to draw in the AI art is demoralizing ngl

>>717150945
>y-you are the jeet
Grok generate me a better comeback please saar

>>717148932
I am sure I saw a typing animation in Deus Ex, you could just re-use assets in-game.
>>717148730
That's open source image generation, this is what DALL-E looked like 4 years ago on the left. Even then SD1.5 came out shortly after, you are being disingenuous, anon.

>>717151028
in the AI art era*
fuck

>>717151020
you are such a pitiful loser

>>717151103
Asians always get so personal lmao

>>717150831
nta but you are retarded.
AI will lie to you and if you already don't know what it's talking about you will not catch it because it lies with confidence. AI is like being thrown in forum full of trolls and asking for help.
Still, it's a tool.

>>717150831
anon, maintenance of a skill is not the same as knowledge of how to use a tool.
if a gun has a very specific reload method and i learn it, i'll never need to relearn how to reload it because its been committed to memory
>inb4 "so AI is a skill then!"
AI is, for the most part, you guessing what specific phrases will get you your desired output
skills are also not like that. you learn how to do something and then you can RELIABLY get your desired output.

we told you not to study art in school. now you know why.

>>717151082
>first image is of the cookie being dipped in milk per the prompt
>second image is not of the cookie being dipped in milk at all
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>717151168
>>717151161
>I learned how to draw
>now I can draw anything
fucking RETARDS

>>717151194
Why?

I just don't get boomers, they have tools that can make their lives easier and still choose to ignore them

>>717151212
>I learned how to draw
>now I can draw anything
YES YOU FUCKING NIGGER THATS HOW IT WORKS.

>>717151212
Yeah, with enough time and effort

>>717151238
There's nothing satisfying about generating art.

>>717151256
>>717151261
my god you're fucking stupid, you can't draw shit

>>717151212
I'm usually pro AI use but the more I interact with AI fags the more radically anti AI I become.

>>717151302
>you can't draw shit
>says the retard who generates "art" trained by real artists
The ironing

>>717151217
because tech makes 99% of artists obsolete, the only people with value are japanese manga artists who can create nice things and the other 99% are just copying them for patreon bux.

>>717151302
because i am not an artist

>>717151168
>you guessing what specific phrases will get you your desired output
That's as stupid as saying that shooting a target is you guessing over and over where you should point the gun until you eventually hit it. I mean, you can say that, you are in a way, but then it still devalues your argument.

>>717151345
draw this

>>717132986 (OP)
I used AI for my resume and it got me hired. So Gaben is correct that AI is a cheat code.

>>717151349
>artists are obsolete because they dont get paid
you dont even understand what art is or why humans make it at all, I question if you have a soul

>>717145732
selling cars makes much more money than running fast because people value being able to be fast way higher than paying someone else to be fast

>>717141635
It will replace a lot of jobs. But not all of them. The rich people will still need human servants for example. The factories will still require a couple of people to service the robots and check up on the servers running them. Stores will still need a human or two to make sure the automated facial recognition is working correctly and to step in if it fails. Companies producing software will still need a couple of humans to check up on the code the AI generated. They'll still need humans to service the self driving cars and janny robots cleaning things up.

But we're talking about a huge reduction in jobs. Take the average office with say 50 employees. They will be reduced to maybe 5 or less people. The rest are "useless eaters" that will no longer serve any function and have no skills to work in the post-automation world. Even if they train and try to obtain skills to find a new job there will be so few of them that it'll be nearly impossible. You'll have to have a very high social credit score to qualify for the right to work in the first place. Only the trusted will be allowed anywhere near the robots and servers running the so-called AI.

The only question is will they buy off the "useless eaters" and feed+entertain them until they die. Or will they just murder them all? They've been talking about reducing the population for decades now. So I'm interested to see which way they go.

>>717151397
>yellow fever coomer webm
Fucking KEK
So these are the people making these threads, the porn addicts from /gif/

>>717151297
but AI can be used for more than generating porn...?

>>717151461
you dont need money to make good art, im saying most people on social media complaining about AI art are making derivative slop.
>noooooo dont generate art
>i'll use paint apps to copy existing art and sell it

>>717151485
You fundamentally misunderstand what AI getting good means.
It means catgirl slaves grown in tubes.

>>717151545
I dont use social media and I dont care what happens on it

>>717151550
>muh dick
I should have known it was retarded cumbrains making these ai threads lmao

>>717151523
Correct. There is nothing truly satisfying about prompting "art". You created nothing.

>>717151594
the most vocal critics of AI see AI as a threat. if AI is "slop" then surely these people can make infinitely better art, right?

>>717151461
AI isn't stopping anyone from making art just because it will be economically unviable. Artistic expression is a LUXURY and no single person is entitled to financial compensation just because they go after their passion.

>>717151684
Slop isn't in reference to the art. You can look at any booru and see that AI outclassed 99% of tranime artists.
Its about the human spirit, its about why humans make art in the first place. Asians literally cannot understand.

>>717151082
soulless/soul

>>717151706
the only way for artfags to make money is through porn, now AI does it better than most.

>>717151773
yes, humans do make art: but AI is a tool, if you use a sketch and AI to make something neat, how is that different than people using a wacom tablet and photoshop? both are using digital tools to create.

>>717151706
This. Aritst produce their best works when they're desperate and starving anyway. AI will prevent many from being able to become sellouts which will improve overall art quality since the AIs can then train on their work again.

>>717151082
left captures expressionism far better than the right, AI researchers being autistic techbros will hold it back

>>717151594
>>717151521
it's always so sad to see anti-AI troons resort to posting like this as if they aren't the most degenerate fucks alive

>>717151773
Art is liked because it looks good.
Art with backstory is better but most art that is consumed doesn't have anything to do with the human spirit.

>>717132986 (OP)
He's literally right though. Being anti-AI may as be like being vegan. Your complaints and lifestyle choices are not going to change the fact that the thing you hate will remain the way it is until the day you die, at the VERY least. And while everyone else is enjoying the fruits of mankind's progress, you can just sit in the fucking corner and cry about it while you pretend like doing the boring parts of anything actually makes your project more "soulful" despite the fact that no one will ever see or know that you spent more time doing that than the people who took a shortcut.

>>717133580
Why did you post this on a website?
If you can't write it by hand then you're clearly a no-talent hackfraud retard when it comes to expressing your opinion.

I expect a handwritten letter about this topic in my mailbox by next week or this conversation is over.

Guessing the AIfags in the thread want to see more 7 fingered zombies like in CoD, because that's what is going to happen with industry adoption.
>>717151684
Even if you can make better art, you can't match it in speed unless you have a simple artstyle.
>>717151835
It does a shit job of interpreting your sketch, that has been my experienced with ChatGPT. Only thing I am willing to call a tool is people using Stable Diffusion with ControlNet, and even then you are beholden to RNG.

>>717151773
>It's about the human spirit

There it is. Muh divine spark of creation!

>>717151345
>>717151521

You still can't draw lmao

>>717151461
If you don't need to get paid why are you crying about AI you fucking faggot? Just keep doing your art for the "passion".

>>717152001
AAA trash was bad before AI. thinking CoD games are suddenly on a downward trend is like crying over a burning house because someone is peeing on the flames

>>717151014
Tranny freak wants dev teams to employ 100 people for useless shit like modeling desks all day

AI is the future
>just spend a month animating this bro