unfunny forced meme
sex with susie's fat dino ass btw

>>717142068 (OP)
>asriel gets a tard younger bro
>family regrets it instantly and repeats the Dess-truck special
>replaced with a quiet sociopath

Cursed family.

>>717142068 (OP)
Reading that made me think of toe-gore and I had a sudden flashback of that one Spongebob episode where Squidward rips his toenail out.

>>717142068 (OP)
Pluey was funnier.

Erm, actually the knight isnt dess because that would be a red herring and also dess is human

>>717142785
Carol is the red herring

>>717142068 (OP)
I don't get it

>>717142882
Erm actually carol is a double fakeout. She's "the knight" as far as the form and actions she takes in the dark world to appear as the prophecies "roaring knight", however, the real knight still exists and its not carol or dess

Ramb.

Giving a LONG sensual kiss to Dess's fat chocolate donut.
- Kris Dreemurr

>>717143427
>toby writes a character that i like as much as spamton, burgerpants, and sans
>"yeah uh he's even more out of the story than a schizoboss, he literally gets abducted and you cant recruit him, also everyone hated this nigga for loving kris that much so his life was always shit"
What the fuck bros...

Why does timmy hate assgore so much

>>717142068 (OP)
i'm surprised it took this long to become a meme, surely it was everyone's first thought upon noticing asgore + toriel = asriel

>>717143968
He's his strongest soldier, so he gets all the hardest battles. He will redeem himself while Toriel will crawl at his feet begging forgiveness.

>>717143427
why did they make him look like jerma?

>>717144409
>later that night

>>717142068 (OP)
tom your best friend

>>717142068 (OP)
Ralsei is Togore's ashes.

>>717144916
REALLY? I can't even have THAT? Even a used up, idiot christmas cake will be PRYED from my CLUTCHES? What's mine is his, and what's his is also his own???
THIS IS YABBA DABBA DOUBLE THE FUN! IM SUCH A HAPPY KEK!

>character revealed as straight
>/v/ immediately loses all the interest

>>717143775
>Reminds him of a certain... Y'know
>HIS game is kind of a bust
I know he's probably talking about the game show but it makes me think he means the game Asriel was working on that he never finished

>>717142068 (OP)
Kris is Togore

Bring back COONsei

>Psst, Kris...
>Have you ever seen Neon Genesis Evangelion?

>>717145734
I guess I'm not /v/ then

>>717146085
Why is Zapper Kris?

This fandom is the King of forced and unfunny memes

>>717146139
* Equip

THE SECOND HERO
THE GIRL

>>717146198
Admit it, nobody cares about Asriel anymore after Ralsei became the main character

>>717142068 (OP)
Can someone give me a QRD? Is this some copypasta meme?

>>717146085
This artist should draw them having a hot gay threesome as gijinka

>>717146139
Kris will be filled with my cum.

Gote

>>717146538
Kris kope. She will never have a pair like Toriels.

>>717142068 (OP)
I will only accept this meme if Togore is treated as Asriels second creepy imouto.

>>717144916
ceroba would shoot kill sans and whoriel though

>>717146330
The only thing holding back Asriel is Toby keeping his appearance secret.
The second he's on screen the fans will go "holy shit, 2 gotes!"

>>717146659
anon that role's filled by kris

>>717146357
another shitty unfunny meme from twitter like the asgore truck one
at least this isn't toriel propaganda like that one

>>717145734
whatever
still would

>>717146835
That's why I said second. Kris having a gap moe little sister thats potentially as weird as her would be a cute dynamic.

>>717146853

>>717146771
shes more likely to shoot herself LMAO

Berdly is the Angel

>>717147253
NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717147253
It seems... in your anger, you killed her.

>>717147397
Berdly?!
BERDLY?!

thoughts on -lings?

>>717147067
Sorry, he's only into tomboys and scalies now.

so how's all this going to end?

>>717147397
THE BIRD WILL COME INTO THE CAGE

>>717142068 (OP)
a shitty copy of a shitty meme that was never funny.
kill yourself.

>>717149084
Normal route is a soppy ending where the world is saved, but everyone accepts that Dess can't come back and they try to move on with a better life
Weird route is the prophecy and everything Hometown stands for comes crashing down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYil-CsbEU

>>717143492
Hey Kris, how heavy was that doe?

>>717149084

>>717149780
kek

>>717145734

>>717149454
>weird route is the prophecy
dumb fuck

>>717149910
>no Elle
Lmao, hope she's waiting somewhere.

>>717150160
Anyone who thinks "LOVE finds it way to the girl" is Susie instead of Noelle takes things at face value way too much.

>references asriel's burn in despair drumbeat
>references asriel's hyper goner
>references flowey swooping in and killing asgore after you defeat him and he talks about the family getting back together
>"erm actually it's the MOM of the character who dated asriel because she haz a sord and red fishes or something"
why are deltarune fans like this

>>717150262
it's simple subtext anon
weird route is meant to be played after normal route
ralsei's dialogue about another, worse outcome

>>717150160
>Knight tries to drag Noelle into Dark World twice
>Knight seems to follow the Prophecy
>Ralsei doesn't wants Kris to be left alone with Noelle
>Ralsei was trying to break the prophecy
The dumb fuck is you in this situation.

>>717150262
depending on how you look at it, LOVE finding its way to the girl has already happened

>>717150398
It's because of stuff like this that I don't really trust the "will changing the prophecy make everything worse" dialogue
Literally everything except that one line points to the weird route being closer to the prophecy

>>717150402
>femkris

>>717149753
about 350

>>717150262
To be fair there IS some foreshadowing to Susie being controlled by the soul ("Kris likes playing as me better anyway") but that specific prophecy line is absolutely screaming Noelle getting controlled

>>717150512
you know it makes sense
it's tomboys all the way down

>>717150598
susie on normal
noelle on weird. it's not hard

>>717150398
>The weird route that is like a creepypasta and is about glitches is the one that follows the prophecy
>The normal route where you don't do anything to veer offcourse is the one where you break the prophecy
Dumb as fuck. You're going to have to at least collect the shadow crystals to change the prophecy or Seam's pessimism and Gerson's talk about going the wrong way giving you good ideas will make no sense.

>>717150779
For some reason, a lot of people are just incapable of comprehending that a role in a prophecy can be interpreted multiple ways depending on route
>NOOO THE ANGEL CAN ONLY BE THE PLAYER IT'S NOT NOELLE
>NOOO THE ANGEL CAN'T BE THE PLAYER THERE'S SO MUCH ANGEL SYMBOLISM WITH HER
It's fucking stupid considering everyone was able to easily comprehend Asriel only being the Angel in True Pacifist

>>717150859
seriously. people love to latch onto theories that are possible but don't mesh with established narrative concepts

>>717142068 (OP)
So the thing people have been calling the "Freedom motif" i probably just Dess's theme right? Like if this game was really supposed to be Undertale before Undertale we can assume that this is actually just this games version of Flowey's theme? Has any one actually tried to do a cover of this theme alone like as a regular ballad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxjaG5HN9o

>>717150965
The freedom motif actually is part of Lost Girl yeah

>>717150262
Yo does LOVE still mean level of violence in the prophecy?

>The prophecy doesn't say anything at all about using Noelle to kill people but Ralsei knows letting you be alone with her is dangerous because uhhhhh he just does

>>717151162
based on how the prophecy can be interpreted in multiple ways and still be true, yes
but can can also mean romantic or platonic love and still work

>>717151202
when does Ralsei suggest he is aware of your weird route actions or try to prevent you from being with Noelle?

>>717151273
* N... Noelle?
* Kris, I...
* I think that's...
* ...
* A bad choice.
* I mean, I'm sorry! A bad choice to, make alone.
* Noelle, might want to go with Susie...
* I hope you can... figure out a nice solution!

>>717151162
I doubt we'll get another set of acronyms-- toby probably knows they were one of the more ridiculed parts of undertale-- but I'm sure "love" is going to squeezed for all its potential meanings, and "level of violence" will be part of that, probably subtextually

>>717151346
Why didn't he do anything when Susie dragged him along with her in chapter 2 and left you alone with Noelle when that is the very thing that made the Weird Route possible?

>>717151395
Level of Violence is probably still what LV is in the light world
Kris's light world LV always stays statically at 1 no matter how high his other "LV" gets in the dark world

I want Kris to kiss Asriel

>>717149084
The world(in either a good or bad ending cause good can just mean we get there by our terms) caves in and creates the underground kingdom of Undertale. IT sounds fan-ficy but just given the context that Deltarune was the OG idea when Toby created most of these characters and the fact that he still kept them around when REALLY with hindsight he could have made the cast completely original and forego the fanservice, but he still chose to keep the OG cast cause the ending will probably link these two worlds up. Maybe the actual in game DELTARUNE is something akin to Sephroths casting of Meteor which ends up giving a rebirth to the world, OR to keep it in line with Tobys faggot interests this will probably parallel Mother 3's ending where we see a rebirth as well. My bet is that Susie just gets that fucking pissed that she conjures it up somehow.

>>717151609
>black fingernails
GET HIM VESSEL

>>717151609
>Just get in the fucking bath Kris, you smell like absolute ass. You know you could've ripped me out and taken a goddamn shower at any point, right? You could've done that instead of slashing your mom's tires.

>>717151498
I agree, though I really doubt it'll be stated as such in Deltarune's script. I don't think it ever needed to be stated in Undertale. The terms "level" and "experience" are sinister enough when enemies are treated as people

>>717145734
I don't know anon, I'm gay and I dated girls in high school

>>717151609
kris's faggotry gave the true rise of vesselposting
(You) are the true self-insert, not this gay ass emo

>>717151782
lole

>>717150859
>The weird route that is like a creepypasta and is about glitches is the one that follows the prophecy
Our entire point of being in this world is to break the prophecy and create the new future. That's why Gaster brought us in. Weird Route is the way to see how it was originally suppose to go down.
>I don't want Weird Route to retread Genocide, I want it to subvert my expectations
>NO NOT LIKE THAT

>>717151451
it's likely he's reacting to weird route rather than predicting it. He doesn't act like he knows what the "worse outcome" really is

>>717151451
What CAN you do if Susie is dragging you along?

Kris
>Colorful exterior
>Black lace bra and panties
Vessel
>Drab exterior
>Rainbow polkadot bra and panties
Do you see the vision?

>>717151825
Weird route being the prophecy ending would be lame and feel wrong. Even if you can invent a narrative reason to make it possible, it would never feel right. So if Toby does it he's a bad writer, and so are you for suggesting it.

>>717151907
>Ralsei thinking he can be raped
>Ralsei thinking Darkners have enough importance in the universe that consent is needed to fuck them
Out of character

>>717151940
my vessel has a cock so I can impregnate monster women. Human women are for chumps and autogynophilia is gay.

>>717151940
No. Kris wears stripey boxer shorts and wife beater, Vessel wears v-neck shirt and questionable tightey whiteys.

>>717151825
You have to break the prophecy by taking actions against it, not by playing on autopilot. The Weird Route is what happens when you use a sledgehammer instead of a scalpel to deal with the prophecy.
>>NO NOT LIKE THAT
Faggot.
>>717151837
Yeah Ralsei has to know something's up when Chapter 2 gets seriously derailed after you wander off with Noelle.
>>717151907
He could have bullshitted a reason to go looking for you. He sure didn't seem panicked when he was eating cotton candy with her.

Rudy gets to have THIS?

To think we all thought Spamton would be dethroned once the new chapters came out

>>717152064
>Kris wears stripey boxer shorts and wife beater
Honestly more sitting considering her tomboyish demeanor
>Vessel wears v-neck shirt
Under her regular shirt?

>>717151940
No way the Vessel isn't wearing heart boxers.

>>717152259
>her
>her

>>717152249
Honestly even if Toby tried to continue the schizoboss pattern, I always thought it would be hard to outdo Spamton

Do you think Aborted Snowgrave is gonna do anything significant?
I mean, I'm sure Toby knows it's possible to do and keep the thorn ring into a neutral playthrough
If it was unintended he would've just made it so Chapter 3 or 4 delete any Snowgrave items you have from your inventory, but they don't
Noelle coming to Castle Town is basically guaranteed by unique unused dialogue for her being in the party, so you can probably just take the ring off to make the Twisted Sword in a full weird route, I doubt aborting it would be the only way to get the sword

>>717152330
Context on that gif

>>717152414
it's the gif used here: >>717150512 but in grayscale

>>717152508
What is it from

>>717152549
it's the gif used here: >>717152330 but with color

>>717152330
Yes, her.

>>717152259
>>717152461
>>717152608
do you have a job or friends?

>>717149084
For me, it's the secret DS "earthboundlike" with the player as a real character, of course!
https://youtu.be/2JAYe7R6nmM?t=8m27s

>>717152330
>4chan gets just as angry about people interpreting a gender ambiguous character differently from their headcanon as reddit, tumblr and xitter

>>717151986
How's this:

On normal route, Susie's "white pen of hope" overwrites the prophecy and the normal gamers get an ending that is happy within reason. Ralsei is happy but still needs to be sealed away along with all dark worlds, Dess might get a few lines but doesn't truly come back, and most importantly, whatever tragedy caused susie to shatter that panel doesn't occur; no lightners who are currently alive in the story die. that's the "heartfelt journey of humor and friendship" that the 3+4 trailer were talking about.
but the "weird" gamers know something is up (play along with my hypothetical in which they haven't already datamined weird route several years in advance). they knew something was strange about that noelle and kris section in ch2. they read that the forbidden path began with ice magic. and, most importantly, that tragedy in the prophecy was diverted, and they want to know what would happen if it wasn't. so they go back and experiment with ice magic until they find an alternate path. a bunch of cool edgekino later and the payoff is that they get to see what was supposed to happen. they become the arbiters of fate and see the characters they loved get torn apart because they had to know what was possible. you know toby loves that "because you 'had to'" shit. I bet anyone who likes the geno route gets a tickle out of it

>>717152586
>>717152508
I’m jumping your unfunny tomorrow when you’re sleeping

reminder that everyone who hates femkris doesn't actually have an argument outside of 'i can't self insert if kris is a girl'
ignoring the point that kris isn't supposed to be a self insert to begin with

>>717152738
That would be lame because making the "defeat the prophecy" ending be the one where you follow the script by the letter instead of the one where you tear the script up, stomp on it, and light the set on fire, feels wrong. Its also an exact retread thematically of the Undertale genocide ending.

The weird route being the only ending where you're truly free, even if it is the bad ending. would feel right, and would be new territory for the series.

I'll draw femKris fanart only after chapter 7
As long as Kris is my vessel, he's a boy

>>717152953
If Kris didn't to be a self insert then he shouldn't have summoned me.

>>717152953
>game goes out of its way to agender them
>act like OTHER people are wierd for not insisting on your fetish based headcanon
fuck off

>>717152953
Fem Kris is only good for bearing my children
Simple as

>>717153017
>>game goes out of its way to agender them
Then why do you flip your shit whenever people don't call Kris a boy?

>>717152963
I like the idea of the Weird Route ending with the town being frozen, and the freedom you get is the freedom to wander around a dead world.

>>717153065
thats my first post you fucking retard.
kys schizo loser.

>>717153017
>Twitternigger argument
I bet you play Deltarune with the Highlighted Kris Pronouns mod

>>717152953
Why would parents let a brother and sister share a room well into teenage years?

>>717152249
ngl I thought he would still be king until like maybe chapter 7, it's ard to top SpamGOD.

>>717153140
no i just play normally and dont trawl tumblr for shit you "allegedly" dont care about.

>>717153105
A softlock is still freedom from the prophecy. Its not completely dissatisfying either. There's a certain catharsis in flipping over the table and shooting all the other players if you know you're gonna lose no matter what anyways.

Kris is a guy but female Kris fanart is good

Those PlayStation achievements are sussy as fuck

>>717153227
there aren't any other rooms in the house

>>717153263
>"N-no I don't care, YOU care too much chud!"

>>717153227
If theyre poor and dont have enough bedrooms?
desu with the whole theming about you not being in control or whatever i think i makes more sense that Kris have a specified gender to be revealed later in the story, moreso to emphasize that (YOU) arent kris

>>717152963
I don't agree man. Why would Gerson talk at such length about susie's white pen if she isn't going to use it?
also don't agree on your point about retread of geno route. "the only ending where you're truly free, even if it is the bad ending" sounds just as similar to undertale's commentary on freedom of choice to me. in any case, it's the execution and exact character arcs that would truly set weird route apart from geno

>>717143968
He is a child of Divorce and sided with his own mom.

>>717153295
Man you really can't do jack if you're gunning for no achievements

>>717142068 (OP)
>>717145621
What almost 2 months of no new Deltarune content does to a mofo

>>717153375
>susie's the protagonist
>suselle happens on normal route
>weird route lets us steal both susie's role and her girl

>>717153553
Asgore YABBAposting in particular started like a day after the chapters came out though

>>717153291
I just really like the idea because you are practically a schizo boss at that point. Jevil freed himself from fate by getting locked in a room.

>>717153553
Dude you should've been here earlier

>>717153375
>it's the execution and exact character arcs that would truly set weird route apart from geno
No they wouldn't. If the theme is the same then its the same.
>Why would Gerson talk at such length about susie's white pen if she isn't going to use it?
Time loop. Or maybe she'll fulfill the prophecy in a not so terrible way. Or maybe it ends with her failing despite what he says.

It makes no thematic sense for a story about breaking the prophecy to have the breaking of the prophecy be pre-destined. Its the worst kind of ludonarrative dissonance.

>>717153731
its 100% not a timeloop.

>>717153858
Cut Chapter 1 opening dialogue says otherwise.

>>717153731
>Everything can be looped back to the time loop
>How does the Phone Voice know about future events?
>Time Loop
>How does Ralsei know the prophecy?
>Time Loop.
>Why does Kris keep going the set path despite the weird route?
>Time Loop.
>Susie changing her attitude completely between Chapters 1 & 2?
>Time Loop.
>Goner Maker parts?
>Time Loop.
>Carol saying YOU in big red text?
>Time Loop.
>Kris is in a Time Loop
>Ralsei's in a Time Loop
>Susie's in a Time Loop
>Even this post is...!

>>717142068 (OP)
>togore

>>717153858
there's some implication for it, susie's cut dialogue after the vessel creation, susie telling gerson that she doesn't want the story to end and telling kris she wants every day to be like the previous, and the next day to be the same
it might not be something anyone is aware is happening, but susie might be resetting the week every time it ends when she gets to the end

>>717153731
well, I see your side about the ludonarrative dissonance.
I think "maybe she'll fulfill the prophecy in a not so terrible way" sounds like the situation I described, since "fulfilling the prophecy but in a better way" is close enough to diverting it in terms of narrative tone. I want to ask you to elaborate on that and the thematic differences you see between geno route and weird route's commentary on freedom, especially considering that weird route opens with a clear allusion to geno route and is open-faced about being the "wrong" route--no one will play it expecting to see a *better* side of the prophecy, so why position the route as its diversion?

>>717149084
It's going to end exactly the same on normal and weird route.
If you finish on normal without touching weird, it seems like a perfectly happy ending.
But if you've done weird, you know you know you know fuck fuck fuck.

>>717153910
>>717154160
no claiming "load game" or "new game" counts as a timeloop when it doesn't happen, okay anons?

>>717154160
I get the vibe that a true ending if one exists is going to require us to do a bunch of timeline hopping for key materials allowing us to actually work with Kris.
I think this because out of our main cast Susie is leaning towards the timeloop, Ralsei to to tied to the nature of the setting as game, and any freedom Noelle can give us is likely going to be a softlock.
That leaves the tripletrucie to be the real pivot point if we can solve whatever conspiracy bullshit there is.

>>717154859
i dislike the vast majority of time loop stories, the only one i can say i actually like is majora's mask
i hope deltarune doesn't pull one but it does have a little bit of set up for doing it

>>717154859
Only one ending, bro. Doesn't matter what you do, it's gonna loooooop.

>>717154632
Susie is looking at big fluffy and probably apple scented Asgore, Dess is looking at young and impressionable Kris, Undyne is looking at submissive and handcuff-to-the-bedable Asriel

Kris on Noelle and Human Dess on Asriel.

>>717143492
based, but get rid of kris. I NEED that doenut
>>717149753
holy shit she's so fucking FAT

>>717154950
I don't think we will be timeline hopping too much because this game isn't really structured for swift replays.

>>717150571
NOT ENOUGH

>>717154783
>since "fulfilling the prophecy but in a better way" is close enough to diverting it in terms of narrative tone
Only one has a ton of ludonarrative dissonance and the other has none.

>I want to ask you to elaborate on that and the thematic differences you see between geno route and weird route's commentary on freedom
Genocide isn't a commentary on freedom, its a commentary on completionism. Freedom is presupposed there, its never mentioned or brought up in the story because its merely the setup to the completionism question. The weird route is about freedom, and what you're willing to do to get it. The geno route casts you as Flowey, the person who can do anything and has done everything, so now he does all the horrible things just because he's bored. The weird route casts you Spamton. The downtrodden nobody who can't do anything, but desperately wants to do SOMETHING, regardless of what that something is. Are you desperate enough to destroy everything you hold dear if it means you get to make one real choice? Can you even hold things dear to begin with if none of it is really yours?

The question whether you'd rather have a guilded cage or a miserable freedom. Which is very a different theme from genocide's.

>>717154980

>>717154859
What if toby actually makes you resetting the ending though? He made you putting down the controller the ending in Undertale, he's got a track record for this kind of stuff.

>>717149084
Umineko

GOOD
GOOD

>>717155117
Is the sauce anthro or feral?

>>717145621
>not KEGG
krillin posters are getting lazy

>>717155214
... well, I think we're on the same page except for that you're very interested in semantics, lol.

>>717155395
Explain to me how its a semantics issue.

>>717155214
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY SOMETHING IS A COMMENTARY ON A THING WITHOUT SAYING WHAT THE COMMENTARY IS

>>717155378
Shark is an animegirl, the one the futa is assbanging is Von Lycaon, furry anthro butler wolfman.

>>717155557
The commentary is that completionism sucks the soul out of a game and kills the enjoyability and immersion of it. By the end your just moving pixels on a screen to make a number go up.

The commentary here isn't so much a commentary as it is the game asking you whether a pleasant prison or a horrible freedom are better.

>>717155610
>futa
damn, I was hoping it was some exotic upside down vertical cowboy action

>>717155431
"Diverting the prophecy" is different from "subverting the prophecy." "Freedom to complete" is different from "freedom to alter fate." I don't think these points are inaccurate, but they are semantics--they fit the dictionary definition of semantics, I mean. Matters of meaning. If a narrative chooses to blur meaning, I think those two sides of prophecy and freedom can become similar enough to play the same narrative roles. We'll have to wait and see what Deltarune's semantics are like.

>>717155857
I think semantics matter quite a bit when dealing with themes and prophecies. A lot more than they do in normal conversation. The only place they matter more is law.

Dude this car
Car kicks ass
And I dodge your axe while I'm driving

>>717155187
What do you think is another gamemaker update that Toby needs? It's probably something related to that.

>>717157283
fuuuck another year added until ch 7.

>>717142114
>Sex with deltatroon Barney btw

>>717157386
susi is for hug, not fug

>>717148513
>Tomboys
Those don't exist except in anime, bro... and most anime nerds become gay.

Deltarune's ending is Ideon

>>717155374

>>717145850
>the game Asriel was working on that he never finished
I need this boxart with the Hypergod of Death

nerf the knight

>>717158598
smart race war now

>>717143968
He has tried to make assgore morally complex or interesting in two timelines now and failed

I'm almost certain Deltarune will have a shitty ending. It's gonna be some Stephen King dark tower level dogshit ending.

>>717158765
Trust in Toby

Susie: Deltarune... Deltarune is a story about breaking a curse
>cuts to Kris having dinner with the Holiday family

Send Toby to jail already, c'mon Nitendo

>>717149753

>darkners form based off of how valued they were/are as an item
>even the whole deck of playing cards could become darkners
>even spam mail and computer programs, they meant something to someone so they became.
>not a single phone has become a darkner yet
>at least three have been in dark worlds (kris's, noelle's, toriel's. susie probably doesnt have one)
what the fuck is the deal with phones?
they're smartphones, so they hold enough value to become darkners. but they dont.

>>717159230
I've been wondering the same thing for a while since it's clearly abnormal

>>717158905
i will never not seethe

>>717159230
phones seem to be special in dark worlds, trying to use them only has garbage noise on the other end and spamton's contact was entirely over the phone
we know it's still important because tenna mentions checking spamton's phone after he got his last call

>>717159230
toby forgor *raughs*

>>717143427
Why did he start turning to stone?

>>717159230
Susie doesn't have a cellphone. Kris' cellphone is completely lobotomized from him constantly wiping its memory. Noelle and Berdly didn't thought to look in their inventories in Dark World

In fact, now that I think about it, Kris is always the one who is completely in charge of the inventory, outside of equipped items.

>>717159459
Kris is also capable of concealing items from the inventory considering he hid the thorn from us for a whole chapter on weird route. The inventory is clearly not a trustworthy representation of what is being carried around.

>>717159289
>>717159323
right the garbage noise. what annoys me is that we dont have enough there to conclusively say anything.
>the most glaring thing is that it prevents contact to the outside world.
>the garbage noise implies that the dark worlds are emitting some kind of signal that fucks with electronics. would tenna get the garbage noise if he tried to connect to a real channel? would queen when she tries to connect to the internet?
>the garbage noise is the same as gaster's
the only thing i can say is that, off of the first one, its another implication for dark worlds being more than ralsei's explanation of "they are just extra darkness allowing you to see again, none of it is real" if it was just shadows in darkness, then it wouldnt fuck with phones enough to cause garbage noise.

>>717158851
>Look up the Wikipedia page
>Mods in a perpetual war with Toby Fox fans because they refuse to use the foam image
Not sure if I should be annoyed at the fans' autism or the mods' autism.
Just kidding, all jannies deserve this

>>717159540
kris can also hide things we know he has on him too like his knife
interestingly enough i don't think he got it back from susie, i wonder if that was on purpose

ZUN, creator of Touhou is depressed. Touhou 20 could be the last Touhou game. There is a nonzero chance that Toby will become in charge of Touhou after Touhou 20.

>>717159230
I don't think anything that was in a lightner's inventory the first time it was exposed to Darkness has turned into a darkner, has it? It seems like that turns them into equipment or some kind of consumable.

>>717159352
either the effects from being originally in the library started kicking in
or his desire to serve Kris was fulfilled

>>717159793
I don't care if tohou never gets another game

>>717159793
Toby might be a hack and a plagiarist but Zun is on another fucking level.

>>717159540
>>717159657
Another thing to note that many item usage descriptions are written with assumption that Kris is in the party and he is in charge of inventory still. So if (You) ever get to control Susie or Noelle, most likely it won't happen in the Dark World.

>>717142114
based

>>717159924
I don't want to control any of these gay niggas

>>717152953
Kris being a girl fits in with Toby's Lesbian fetish but I feel like Kris would be male specifically to avoid making his fetish too obvious

>>717159979
HIS FETISH IS BDSM, NOT YURI

>>717160047
A man can have multiple fetishes Anon. It's obvious to most people that he's into lesbians hence why they're the LGBT group he choose to have among the main cast twice in a row whereas other gay shit gets put on side characters

>>717160196
It is obvious to retads. Undertale didn't even had ANY lesbians, Alphys was explicitly bisexual and Undyne most likely too, considering how she turned Papyrus into her boytoy in her ending. Don't even get me started on Deltarune.

>>717160362
>Oh you think I'm into lesbians?
>You fool! I'm into bisexual women!
>...please ignore how I only showed the lesbian stuff on screen and the bisexual stuff is barely mentioned at all

>>717142068 (OP)
This mimiga' stare looks creepy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_-FFzk-l_E

>>717160554
>does one canon lesbian relationship
>somehow it means it's his fetish

Alphys was originally male her hooking up with Undyne barely counts

>>717160815
Lesbian relationships are the only LGBT relationships between main characters in both games so yes it's significant

>>717161324
>in both games

>>717146538
kris is a autistic chestlet

Tenna

post undyne

>>717161531
reverse bunnysuit tenna sexo

>>717159793
Touhou has been going downhill in recent entries. The series has had bumps along the road before but the last Touhou game I liked was 17 (and I'm biased because it had Youmu with her TH13 shottype, one of my all-time favorites in the series, so I was inevitably going to like it). 18 was messy with the card shit, 19 was terrible to the point of feeling unfinished, and 20's demo was one of the worst times I've had playing Touhou because of how absurdly disruptive and uncontrollable the Wonder Stones are. If ZUN doesn't have any motivation left then I would probably be fine if he stopped making the games himself and oversaw their creation by other developers. It's not like Touhou is going to die, the fandom will be here at the heat death of the universe, far outliving any FotM slop that overtakes it in popularity for a couple years. There will be plenty of fangames, doujin et al for decades to come.

>>717159793
There is a 0% chance Toby will become in charge of Touhou get real man

>>717161623

>>717161623

>>717152208
I want THAT

>>717161623
The more hair she has, the weaker she gets. When I get my vessel back and rescue Undyne from the shelter I will tell her Kris is the one who looted the librarby computer room. Fuck that nigger for getting her kidnapped.

>>717159879
Even Touhou fangames aren't original they just copy other better games

>>717162247
Lil' nigga tried to warn her twice about dark worlds. Maybe she should have, as they say, LISTENED?

>>717142114
I kneel

>>717162621
That was me and she was locked in a cutscene no amount of warnings could have helped her. I need to rescue her before she gets sacrificed to the underground volcano.

>>717161623

>>717142785
The Knight is Dess' unborn fetus that was inside her when she died in the dark world. He's only kidnapping potential Mother figures for himself. It's all coming full circle.

>>717162891
>That was me
He didn't try to stop you in any way, therefore he also wanted that.
>she was locked in a cutscene no amount of warnings could have helped her
She could've investigated the dark world reports two days ago instead of trying to pass the buck.

>>717149934
You called?

>>717163383
>He didn't try to stop you in any way, therefore he also wanted that.
Now I'm imagining how Kris would sabotage an attempt at telling someone about Dark Worlds
> <3 Dark World
>"The world would be a very dark place without you stopping all the crime"

>>717159230
I'm starting to believe that Gaster (or another entity) is clearly conducting an experiment on Hometown, and that the town is cut off from any real interaction with the outside world. All means of communication (phone or internet) are monitored to ensure nothing disrupts the experiment. Sea's song is probably a hint that something is definitely wrong.

Fuck Ralsei
Marry Kris
Kill Susie

Kris (futa)

>the ending of the weird- and normal route is the same
>but the weird route reveals what happens is actually fucked up and that the normal route lives in blissful ignorance
>once you have done all routes you can sacrifice (You)rself for the true ending ala Nier
>and finally get a real happy if bittersweet ending
Kino…

>>717145734
>inb4 ralsei also turns out to be straight
only middle aged men are gay in toby's world

>>717142068 (OP)
He's a shitty reddit meme. Super unfunny.

so what the hell even is ralsei? is he kris' headband, a plush, a titan spawn, something else entirely?

>>717145734
Why are you /v/ goatfags so obnoxious? He was always straight and he's more popular than ever despite having no screentime in the game.

how could chara do this?

>>717146635
Flat chest is better than Whoriel's balloons.

>>717142068 (OP)
A guy asked me if I knew who Togore was at dinner yesterday and I was completely baffled because I never heard of this before

>>717149084
Stone Ocean esque ending. It's the most fever dream of them all.

>>717142068 (OP)
>make joke character
>instantly decide to do the same joke over and over again so you can give him a boyfriend and make it gay