Thread 717172861

>I SUFFERED THEREFORE I SHOULD... LE PREVENT OTHERS FROM SUFFERING!

Why is this such a common shitty trope in games? Japanese games especially are really cringe like this.

What a shit thread.

>>717172861 (OP)
Because they were buckbroken so badly by being nuked twice, they believe it’s better to be a pussy pacifist.

Suffering implies a lack of ability

The meme implies a surplus

>>717172861 (OP)
Name 5 games

>>717172861 (OP)
What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.

>>717172861 (OP)
because it's heroic
retard

>>717172861 (OP)
The real Chad move is to prevent or cause suffering regardless of your own situation

>>717173398
Faggot.

>>717172861 (OP)
>I suffered therefore everyone else should
literal narcissist tranny mentality

>>717173225
Metal Gear Solid 4
Persona 5
The Last of Us
Mass Effect
Metaphor: Refantasio

>>717173501
This image is INSANE

>>717172861 (OP)
Suffer, faggot.

>>717173501
I haven't jerked off in two weeks because I noticed I wasn't getting morning wood anymore and for the past 8 or so days I have been having an unhealthy desire for fat women. At work there's this fat Cuban tranny (FtM, or nonbinary, or something she keeps using different words for it) but 90% of her wardrobe are super tight dresses and she has giant tits and wide hips and I'm fighting for dear life to not risk my job on offering to fuck her (more) retarded.

>>717172861 (OP)
>I suffered therefore the people who cause suffering for other should be made to suffer, to prevent them from causing more suffering to those who didn't
Is the correct answer

>>717173225
GTA4, Red Dead Redemption, MGSV, Batman Arkham, Yakuza series

>>717172861 (OP)
You never felt totally alienated from every person you know? It happens to most people at least once or twice. Since OP has no life experience, il hook him up with a scenario

Imagine your best friends and family think you’re retRded because you did x y z. Now they start posturing like they are above you. Then they start alienating you. Oh also you have a demon blade that grants you insane agility and strength. That’s really all you need to make a bad guy

>>717173398
>>717173416
>>717173563
>>717173738
Suffering is necessary and part of life. You're gay.

>>717173863
This is a giant cope that people with crap lives tell themselves to feel better.

>>717173863
>t.

>>717173863
>wouldn't object to being assraped without lube because it's "necessary and part of life"
>calls others gay

>I suffered so I should help people learn how to suffer well
The most kino of all tropes.

>>717172861 (OP)
>I overcame my suffering on my own, why shouldn't they?

>>717173863
Ok. Give me all your money.

>>717174081
It's the cope for when antinatalists/philosophical pessimists tell you life sucks and we should stop bringing more kids to suffer.

>I suffered so I'll do my best to create a world free from suffering :)
>*causes unimaginable suffering*

>>717174081
Is that why you avoid working hard and bettering yourself through effort fatty?

>I suffered and now I am a broken, mentally-ill shell of a man
Games for this feel?

We really are becoming a society of schizo sociopaths huh

Won't last long like this

>>717174170
You have the mindset of a weak cuck. If you had an ounce of T in your body your mind would have thought about making the rapist suffer instead. Thus it is inevitable. That's why you're a loser and a bitch who deserves to suffer. I'm the rapist, you're my victim.

>>717174081
>to feel better
Retard

>>717174297
>Projecting retard thinks exercise is suffering

>>717174423
If you weren't such a raped individual you wouldn't have to worry about rape at all. If you're raped, it's your fault, lmao.

>>717173225
Live A Live

>>717174421
>Won't last long like this
for u

>>717174423
>Suffered so much it turned him into a homosexual

>>717174352
Braid

>>717172861 (OP)
The real Chad is the guy who kills people with zero justification other than "I enjoy it"

>>717174560
After hes done raping you I'm gonna have consensual sex with your esophagus.

>>717174423
Autism: The Post

>>717173987
i smirked

>>717172861 (OP)
Just because you sucked your dad's cock doesn't mean everyone does.

>>717174481
>projecting
Struck a nerve I see. If you actually hit the weights and got a clue you'd know that the pain of exercise is why it's enjoyable.

>>717174129
kek
Who is this talking about?

>>717174598
>Shoots you in the stomach twice
Heh, I guess you're raping days are over
Bleed to death while you think about all your reprehensible acts

>>717174674
>Projecting retard thinks exercise is suffering

>>717174206
:( sent

>>717173987
Me on the right. I've mcfucking had it but I go on because fuck it why not.

>>717174694
Roman Emperor Nero's personal catamite Sporus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus

>>717174297
>>717174674
If you think "hitting the weights" is suffering, you either barely do it (or don't do it at all) or you're actively damaging your body by doing it wrong.

>>717173863
suffering is le inevitable, so i should inflict it upon others
kill yourself nihilist cunt

Experiencing pain first hand makes it easy to empathize with others suffering from the same pain. Sociopaths cannot internalize such knowledge.

>>717174702
>*kills his consensual lover*
I die for love.

>>717172861 (OP)
"I suffered so they should also" is literally my boomer parents mindset about office workers being able to work from home. Even though they bought their 4 bedroom standalone house for 150k back in 2000 with office jobs that made about as much as I'm making right now.

>>717174704
>so BTFO he repeats himself
KWAB

>>717173863
Sure, but humans exist to solve problems. Smallpox was once a part of life, but it now only exists in laboratories.

>>717174797
It also makes sadism towards your enemies that much much enjoyable knowing how it feels.

>>717174176
>On the contrary, I'm weak, quite weak in fact - which is why you need to learn this lesson and learn it well. Everyone has their breaking point: you, me, even dear sweet Sasha. What separates the strong from the weak is the ability to take the beating. Hell, to love the beating - no matter how great the pain, never wavering from what needs to be done. Think you can remember that?

>>717174421
Most people here are too fat and pussified to actually do anything so it doesn't matter.
Maybe worry about when Gen Alpha and Zoomers start handling nuclear codes in 20-30 years though.

>>717172861 (OP)
that's just a general sense of wanting to make the world a better place for future generations, so your children don't have to suffer the same shit you did.

>>717172861 (OP)
how many times are you gonna make this thread?

>>717174795
>suffering is le inevitable, so i should inflict it upon others
Correct. What do you think military service is? If you don't make your youth suffer a bit for the country, the whole country will suffer a lot more later. Same reason you inflict "suffering" upon your muscles to help them develop and grow stronger, or "suffering" upon your body by taking a virus inside you so you can develop immunity to it later (vaccines).
Imagine suffering as stress and it all fits into place.

>>717174918
>It also makes sadism towards your enemies that much much enjoyable knowing how it feels.
It mostly just made me feel bad actually.

>>717174790
But then by that logic suffering is good. Because it's telling you what your limitations are.

>>717175045
Again, weight lifting isn't suffering unless you're actively doing it wrong.
Suffering doesn't tell you what your limitations are- it forces you past them in a way detrimental to yourself.

>I suffered so all the people I don't like should suffer and the people I like shouldn't
>To this end, I should have the strength to inflict pain on all my enemies and protect everything I love
As simple as that

>>717172861 (OP)
Let me guess, you have no foreskin?

>>717174795
Yes retard.

Believe it or not there are people in this world who want to attack, torture, rape and kill you and your family. Are you going to let them do it? Or are you going to kill or imprison them even if it means them and their family suffers?

>>717174776
>Politician is useless and a pedofag
>Victim is a groomed mutilated male that acks himself
Many such cases.

>>717175045
When people talk about suffering they're not generally talking about your arms being a bit sore after lifting. If that's your perception of suffering then you're probably a trust fund kiddie.

>>717175023
>inflicting suffering on random people on another continent so the military industrial complex can make more money is... le good. vaccines are a necessary part of life too!
broken individual

>>717174985
>worry about the 78 different flavors of brown races ethnic groups and tribes inhabiting the west who hail from countries where they can't maintain clean water
Im sure they'll maintain the nuclear arsenal.

>>717172861 (OP)
"If you kill your enemies, they win." - Justin Trudeau
>and then everyone clapped

>>717175023
Military service is just as likely to turn your country into a broken society full of psychopathic retards as it is to toughen them up.

>>717173501
Trvke

>>717173312
Ow, the edge.

>>717175090
But you're just going round in circles.

You claim
>weight lifting isn't suffering unless you're actively doing it wrong.
then say
>Suffering doesn't tell you what your limitations are- it forces you past them in a way detrimental to yourself.
So according to you suffering has a purpose then. Because it's either keeping you within the acceptable boundaries or forcing you past them.

>>717175038
>I felt bad for hurting bad people
stop it get some help

>>717173312
So, the option on the right?

>>717175251
What if I want to be a good sport and let him win? Then everyone’s happy.

>>717175023
>What do you think military service is?
Dying for israel.

>>717172861 (OP)
I will end suffering

>>717175424
The point of prison, execution, etc. isn't to make them suffer nor to enjoy inflicting pain on them, but to remove a broken part of society so that it can't harm the working parts. That's why prisons often focus on rehabilitating less dangerous criminals, so that the broken part is fixed instead of scrapped entirely.

For me is
>I suffered so I'm going to make sure everybody else suffers a lot more

>>717175395
Nah, you're just an idiot seeking a desired conclusion.

>>717175424
Well it's more because I can see myself in their position and relate.

>>717175574
But he created it in the first place.

>>717172861 (OP)
>I'm a selfish sociopath
OK anon, there's plenty of self centered nihilist shit for you to consoom, especially in the West, which is unsurprisingly why it's falling.

>>717175776
>dad creates it
>son says no more
kino.

>>717175574
>"I am literally the son of God"
>Gets nailed to a cross and dies
>Somehow this means he won

>>717173225
Halo series (playing as MC)
Prince of Persia Sands of Time
Dark Souls
Metal Gear Solid 3
LOK Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance

>>717175820
What part of "if you kill your enemies they win" do you not understand?

>>717174684
She's right in this image. Why should a 8/10 settle for a 3/10? More so when the 3/10 person doesn't do anything in life other than stay in his room.

>>717175768
>We need death camps cuz there was body type a and b in a video game I didn't play but heard about on the internet

>>717175704
You lost the argument.

>>717175820
>ignores the fact he resurrected after 3 days
the whole point was to die in your place so you don't have to. get saved

John 3
>16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

>>717175820
>rose from the grave after the sacrifice
Yes, he won.

>>717172861 (OP)
>>717172924
Fpbp, how does a shitty edgelord incel thread get 94 posts.

>>717172861 (OP)
You are forgetting:
>I suffered, and I should save everyone else from suffering by killing them so they can never suffer.

>>717175795
Like what?

>>717175817
But the son is also god as well as the dad

>>717175636
>the point of society isn't justice
I know thats why I personally enact sadistic justice on my enemies.
>>717175731
>wont someone plz think of the evil people
sweden plz

>>717176049
underageb8

>>717175776
I'm no theologist but didn't Man create suffering by eating the fruit in Eden?

>>717175985
Get that demonic trinity slop out of here.

>>717175023
>If you don't make your youth suffer a bit for the country, the whole country will suffer a lot more later.
Which by your logic is good, since suffering is good.

>>717175935
>ignores the fact he resurrected after 3 days
This means he basically didn't sacrifice anything.

wow you're going against what your mother taught you that's so unique and interesting

>>717176091
He made humans with the ability to sin and also made the sin fruit in the first place. This is like me writing a program to do something then getting mad that the program does the thing I wrote it able to do.

>>717176075
>only underage people care about justice
unironically true, the concept of fairness gets beaten out of people by adulthood when they realize evil almost always wins in the end.

>>717176117
wrong

Also
>I SUFFERED, SO I WILL HELP OTHERS NOT SUFFER AS I DID
>EVEN IF THAT MEANS MAKING MY ENEMIES WHO CAUSE SUFFERING SUFFER THEMSELVES

>>717172861 (OP)
>I SUFFERED SO EVERYONE SHOULD SUFFFAH!!!!!!!
Image attached: white dude with a bad haircut and mouth open

>>717175935
>>717175940
>He raised from the dead I swear!
>Trust me bro! I saw it!
Dumbass schizos

>>717176110
Water is good for you, doesn't mean you can't drown. Stop thinking so black and white anon.

>>717176195
Yes, if I give you $10 and then you give me $10 back 3 days later then I haven't sacrificed anything.

>>717176167
he gave humans free will and made one condition so they could excercise said free will. they listened to the serpent more than God. it's really not hard to grasp

>>717174596
Supreme chad, is the one who wants to be left alone and kills all who disrupts his ability to maintain his comfy status quo.

>>717176167
Not really. Humans aren't computer programs. From my understanding the fruit was eaten because of free will. So basically it is free will that causes sin and suffering, but rather than taking away free will, God sends Jesus to end sin by suffering for the sins of all of humanity.

>>717176218
shalom

>>717176221
Drowning (or almost drowning) inflicts suffering, however, which is a good thing. We should aim to maximise suffering among the population, as per your ideals.

>>717176195
He didn't lose anything. Not even time because he's literally the all knowing, all loving, all powerful god that exists throughout time and space.
It was all a performative stunt he did ONCE for an extremely small audience.

this is the fastest thread on the board
it's just an image from twitter
no wonder /v/ is dying while /vg/ grows

>>717172861 (OP)
My existence is suffering, and since I cannot strike at God, I strke at his creations to show them His true nature and how little He really cares.

>>717172861 (OP)
How do you plan to prevent suffering without killing people that inflict it?

>>717176195
>I sacrificed my life!
>*3 days later*
>I'm back baby!
He sacrificed 3 days and everyone kisses his ass for it.

>>717175867
I dont think you read it correctly.

>>717176349
this post is antisemitic

>>717176259
He created the evil snake, or at least let it be in the garden.
He knew this would happen but didn't stop it.
Since he knows everything that will happen beforehand, doesn't that mean your free will is an illusion?

>>717175636
But the possibility of suffering from being imprisoned, losing rights or being tortured or executed is a deterrent in itself.

Countries that have harsher penalties typically have better social cohesion.

>>717176338
Most of the replies r from a giant evil brain in the sky. He uses 4chan like it’s a magazine, 2 control wat we read. He posts lots of porn Becuz he uses sex to cntrl us. He likes to hurt human males. He also has sex with girls with his clones. He is literally the king dude he calls himself Jesus. He kills the men n rapes the women.

>>717176091
That was the Jews.

>>717176338
Your pic made me laugh

>>717176349
Ship the people who cause it to some uninhabitable place like Australia

>>717176328
>If you talk shit about my Jewish messiah and my jewish fairy tales you are a jew!
Stupid fucking golem

>>717174868
>Smallpox was once a part of life, but it now only exists in laboratories
And look what """curing""" it with the vaxx did, hundreds of millions more people dead, mutilated or feminized to save a a few thousand who would have otherwise died

>>717176425
>Since he knows everything that will happen beforehand, doesn't that mean your free will is an illusion?
why would it be? lmao

>>717176425
Correct. He is the alpha and the omega. He is that from which all things flow, good and evil.

>>717176049
>Justice is when you torture scumbags for the lols instead of executing, imprisoning, or rehabilitating them to avoid further damage to society

>>717175023
>What do you think military service is?
Misandrist slavery

>>717176487
>doubles down on anti Christian narrative
>uses kike nomenclature
shalom

>>717176487
The isralites were evil white people who needed white jesus to reform them to let fake jews into christian countries to get rich off of banking.

>>717176479
Already tried sending them to Australia and America, but it didn't work

>>717176431
>Countries that have harsher penalties typically have better social cohesion.
Can you give examples?

>>717176330
>as per your ideals.
Can you remind me what my ideals are? Write them out again for me fella, since you seem to know more about them than I do.

>>717176519
Because he already knows everything you will do, and he already knows whether you will be saved or not.
It's like he's watching a movie. You just have the illusion of choosing, when everything's already set in stone from way before you were even born.

>A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in
The Greeks were a bunch of soi bois fr fr

>>717176534
>instead of things that never happen in your country
Someone's gotta do it.

>>717173987
“Everyone else suffered, why shouldn’t I?”

>>717172924
fpbp

>>717176649
Suffering = good, necessary, part of life

>>717176479
step 2:

>>717176349
>I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth... Ally to good!
Oh wow, Goku is so heroic!
>Nightmare to you! *beats the fuck out of Frieza, leaves him to die then kills him again after that.*
Oh

>>717176373
He sacrifices his mortal life and comes back as an omni being whom has fulfilled his birth function. He was a living, final sacrifice for mankind, that took everyones sin with him when he kicked the bucket. He had to suffer immensely for it to work, he died as essentially the final sinner who would go to Hell, but all his sins belonged to humanity. Him coming back as a force ghost, was to tell everyone that God is no longer going to punish humanity with crazy shit like floods because they were pissing them off with all their sinning.

Where is the videogame examples?

>>717176710
Drop a colony on new york?

>>717176167
Have you ever seen that video where Greenpeace protesters march into the grounds of a French nuclear power station to claim that the site is vulnerable to terrorists, only for the camera to pan out and reveal that a car full of armed police was following close behind them the entire time? The protesters then complained about being arrested.

>>717176686
>nobody is suffering so i should suffer

>>717176779
I mean, might as well while were making the trip to orbit

>>717173863
This, the government should also institute mandatory cock and ball torture (and its equivalent for Femnoids) to make sure everyone is on equal suffering standing

>>717176729
>was to tell everyone that God is no longer going to punish humanity with crazy shit like floods because they were pissing them off with all their sinning.
So he did it to protect the modern day sodom and gomorrah from gods wrath.
Think the old testament had it right desu.

>>717176707
Correct. So where in that statement do you see "you need to maximize suffering"?
Water is good, necessary part of life, but too much can still drown you. People need to suffer to develop but not eternal satanic torture or CIA MKultra mindbreak sessions.

>>717176479
Again?

>>717176425
It's all part of the supreme plan to breed humanity into a higher, enlightened species, equivalent to angels. God needs super soldiers to face the true threat.

>>717176874
I like the way you think, anon. Maximise suffering, just like that anon said.

>>717173738
based

>>717176431
Torture isn't really a deterrent because it's just something that sadistic faggots do for fun. The criminal justice system is obviously necessary, but not the only factor in maintaining a functioning society.

>>717176886
>Angels fuck humans
>Floods the world
>Humans get freaky
>Destroys once city in the middle east only once
He should've just started from scratch

>>717176643
In Muslim countries it's often illegal to be openly gay and can even get you executed. There isn't many openly gay people in Muslim countries as a result.

>>717176901
Why?

>>717176972
>He should've just started from scratch
That would've been the sensible thing to do.

>>717176886
Thats what Judgement Day is for. Those who haven't figured shit out in 2000+ years and actively seek evil with no remorse, get to stay on Earth when the demon rape squad comes on up.

>>717176926
>God is so powerless to stop whoever he's fighting against hat Angels are not enough.
>God is so powerless his creation he's trying to turn into super soldiers is often led astray and taken by his enemy

>>717176983
Thats definitely an upside to western europe becoming a caliphate.

>>717176983
>the famously stable, dictatorship and civil war free islamic countries

>>717176259
It doesn't make sense when you factor in omniscience

>>717172861 (OP)
>I suffered
>Why shouldn't I make the people that make others suffer, suffer?
>None of the people who haven't suffered or have made others suffer will never know about all the suffering going on around here

>>717177035
Meanwhile I have to be around degenerates my entire life. I got the raw end of this deal.

>>717176926
If he's omnipotent he could have just made them like that from the start. All of these apologetic arguments assume that the god of the bible is limited in his ability.

>>717176960
Torture =
Suffering =
"Gee you know what, I don't want that creepy weirdo torturer in the village jail who has sex with people's eye sockets to hurt me. I won't steal this apple."

>>717176495
>hundreds of millions more people dead, mutilated or feminized to save a a few thousand who would have otherwise died
Schizo bullshit.
Meanwhile in reality:
>In 18th-century Europe, it is estimated that 400,000 people died from the disease per year, and that one-third of all cases of blindness were due to smallpox. Smallpox is estimated to have killed up to 300 million people in the 20th century and around 500 million people in the last 100 years of its existence.

>>717176657
just because he knows all outcomes doesn't take away from the fact that an individual is allowed to and does choose their path

>>717177248
There is only one outcome thougbeit.

>>717177148
wrong

>>717177230
>when your source is the people selling the vials

>>717172861 (OP)
Yes, japshit is cringe, especially with:
>LE DEMONS ARE GOOD GUYS
die in hell, bandit

>>717176669
>Torturing people for the lols is a good thing because [headcanon]
OK glowie.

>>717177074
God is not compatible with physical reality. God birthed the universe all to its designs and it is the universe itself. Its like an author writing a story. Once the story is created and distributed, it can no longer alter whats in the hands of the reader. All of God's miracles and plans, were predetermined before existence began. It is just an observer. Humanity needs to overcome being led astray as a part of these trials to become higher entities.

>>717177230
>it is (((estimated)))

>>717172861 (OP)
>>717173312
Damn its like i'm 14 years old again

>>717177303
there are potential outcomes that may happen if the inidivdual makes a certain choice, and then there is the actual final outcome stemming from the choice the individual actually made

>>717172861 (OP)
>student loan seethe thread
You borrowed the money, you pay it back.
Simple as.

Suffering is essential to greatness. People who know how to suffer are the top of their field.

>>717177340
>The church/God is evil
>Demons are evil
>Our kindgom/politicians are evil
>All the other kingdoms are evil
>Rich people are evil
>Poor people are evil
>Science and progress are evil
>Nature is evil
>Men are evil
>Women are evil
Games for this feel?

>>717177376
You dont even know what its like to be 14 yet. Wait til you have sex. Shit is going to rock your world.

>>717177140
>Glowies have never interfered in other countries

>>717176960
It used to be necessary because our(civilized society's) ability to capture criminals was next to none, so when one was caught they were subjected to the most horrific shit imaginable. If you commited a crime you were probably going to get away with it, but is the slight off chance you get caught worth it? Advancements in the police state, forensics, and whatnot has afforded us the opprotunity to treat our captives more humanely.

>>717177489
What about the kids?

>>717177415
>Stop talking about video game tropes! We need to make the money printer go brrr for Israel, plebs!

>>717177201
>if God is all that he could've made beings with free will have no free will but be automatons instead
anon, I...

Suffering only works on non-stupid people, it's useful, but it doesn't solve the main issue of what to do with stupid people. So far there was and is only one solution found in the entire history of the world and nobody wants to do that anymore because we've become more "civilized".

>>717177140
they were pretty cool before ww1 tbqh degozaimasu

>>717177395
So there is one final true outcome which god already knows beforehand, rendering every other "possible outcome" meaningless.
You enter a room with two doors and you could walk into either door, but this is just an illusion of choice, since god already knows you WILL choose a certain door. it was already your fate since before your parents even met each other that you would find yourself in that room and that you would whatever door you were predestined to choose.

>>717177641
Shalom, Moshe.

>>717177201
Not the person you're replying to. I like to imagine that if there's an all-knowing omnipotent God, for the sake of mixing things up a little he can turn it off and genuinely be surprised by whatever his creations have come up with and be surprised.

Like maybe he closed his eyes for a moment, and when he opened them instead of a birthday cake it was the Holocaust
>WHOA time out, that's enough surprises for one century

>>717177354
So who's the enemy? Another aspect of god?

>>717177530
Zamn, muzzies are so weak that a single glowie can topple their nations like a house of cards? Sad, pathetic even,

>>717172861 (OP)
Because we think that goodness solely involves pleasing others without ever expecting to be pleased yourself. However, nobody actually seems to practice this except a few. Most people who say that it is good to please others despite your suffering simply have not suffered enough.

>>717172861 (OP)
Baby boomers didn’t suffer. In fact they had it pretty easy, and instead of ensuring the next generation had it just as good if not better, they went out of their way to dismantle their futures and their kid’s kids as well. Isn’t that more infinitesimally based? To be so full of spite and vitriol despite having no reason to be?

>>717177140
>no LGBT
>no feminism
>united under one religion
>zero tolerance for criminality
Yeah.

>>717177489
Lona RPG
One of the most disgusting games with exactly that feel of total despair
Picrelated: Lona is about to be sold into slavery because she listened to some suspicious merchants
>Poor people are evil
Poor people will be your fucking nightmare
>Nature is evil
This too
>Men are evil
Ooooh boy. You play as a young girl

>>717177201
The nature of the enemy, needs soldiers that reach enlightenment by choice. They need to be balanced beings. The enemy does not function on the same realm as God, but it is not supperior. They are on equal footing as powers that be, each with children that act as extensions of their will.

>>717173398
There is nothing heroic about pleasing others. That's just something brainless hedonists say because they want others to please them or gain pleasure from pleasing certain people.

>>717172861 (OP)
What exactly is "cringe" about a character wanting to make the world a better place?

>>717172861 (OP)
That's what's considered the healthy response in real life.

>>717177641
Nature is evil and society is evil too.
So kids are evil by default.

>>717177732
knowing the outcome does not influence, invalidate, nor does it make the individual's ability to choose an illusion, no

>>717177902
The game isn't actually hard. It's just autistic and edgy. Reddit would probably love it if it wasn't for the fact that it's a loli porn game.

>>717177849
>Baby boomers didn’t suffer
Erm actually no generation has suffered more then the Boomers, not only did they have to go through the artificial hippie movement their hero Nixon was undermined and stabbed in the back. So maybe put down the avocado toast and learn some empathy zoom-zoom

>>717177489
Why make a game for this feel when you can just go outside

>>717177849
Boomers simply delayed their suffering. They're going to get their asses wiped by jeets and niggers who beat and rape them in their old people's homes, and the younger generations despise them enough to accelerate their misery.

>>717177489
>everyone is evil
real life

>>717178035
The hippie movement of then is the Just Stop Oil of now. Both are glowie shills.

>>717173398
6th posts best post
bunch of retards in this thread trying their best to be contrarian

>>717177794
God represents the state of existence. The enemy represents the state of non existence. Reality is the result of something equivalent to a chemical reaction. The enemy exists to not-exist, so having to "exist" in "existence", is suffering. If the enemy can prematurely end the progress of creation, it will be a failed reaction, resulting it it non repeated, thus ensuring existence never occurs again and the enemy can be free of suffering.

>>717177986
How can there be choice if the outcome already exists?
When you rewatch a movie, do you think the characters will do something different?

>>717177945
How is he going to that? If you're helping people you are making life harder for others who don't receive the same help.

>>717173738
Correct take.
Violence is not amoral. Lack of violent repercurssions towards those who cause suffering is the direct cause of fascism.
Morality is a construct to uphold society. Calling all violence amoral leads to incoherence in the process of morality, where a society is made fragile by bad actors but no one does a thing. Violence only begets more violence if allowed to escalate, and it is only allowed to escalate if there are people accept and normalize the first injustice.
Lead to suffering those who first suffer others, and all conflict wnds with them.

>>717177828
>Creates a republic and bombards you with ballstic missiles
What now, Bibi?

>>717174352
Disco Elysium

>Suffer
>Become a broken man
>Don't suffer
>Becomes a entitled asshole
What is the middle ground?

Suffering isn't real

>>717178250
See someone you love suffer.

>>717178250
Hate

>>717178173
Some guy was doing bad things and was going to be killed by a snake that night, but because he changed his mind and did a good deed, the snake was instead found dead under his bed the next morning.

>>717177902
>>717178020
It's De Sade's Justine, but in video game form?
I mean I'll take it, but isn't there a game that is just pure misery without porn/sex to make it enjoyable?

>>717178250
Get into sadomasochism

>>717178270
Buddhism teaches to embrace and accept suffering.
>Master, how do we escape the pain of the fire?
>Go right down into the middle of the furnace.

>>717178349
You can play as a permavirgin if you are skilled enough.

>>717176921
>Brits got rid of all their rebels by shipping them to Australia
>performed eugenics on themselves making them all authoritarians
Kino

>>717178419
Buddhism teaches suffering doesn't exist on any ontological or epistemological level, only in delusion

>>717178340
There doesn't exist a world in which he didn't change his mind. God already knew he would do it.

>>717178250
The middle ground is empathy. You see someone's suffering and help them through.

And also you find a reason.
If you find culprit, you have them repair what they did and then punish them on top for the act. Then observe them for rehabilitation.
If you don't, then society on the whole should have safety nets.
Or you cna just be retarded and blame god. Doesn't really matter if you thank it or curse it, you were already retarded enough to think misfortune is planned.

>>717172861 (OP)
A man should plant trees knowing full well that he will never sit under the shade of their leaves.
If you cared about the progression of your species you would strive to make it better for the next generation. This has been the trend for nearly all of human history.
You have been brainwashed into anti-human thinking.

The reason you suffered is because not enough people accepted the second viewpoint. You're just creating and endless loop bad for society.

>>717172861 (OP)
It's funny how this meme minbroke chuds. It exposes none of you actually cared for Chrisitanity, and wore it's skin as a suit. Hell, no wonder you can't get a gf if this is the mind set you have.

>>717178461
Australians are also authoritarian. The entire thing with the payment processors started with the Australians.

I don’t care about the suffering. I just want to hit things until either everything is dead or something stronger kills me.

>>717175574
>Christianity is about Jesus fulfilling the Jews prophecy
>Judaisms founding myth is that God talked to Moses after Hebrew slaves escaped from Egypt
>Egyptians who have kept in depth historical record, have zero writings that cite 'ever having a large amount of Hebrew Slaves, or there ever being a large Hebrew revolt or escape'
then who was trinity???

>>717178020
>The game isn't actually hard
This is false. Sure, it becomes less of a constant nightmare when you get used to the controls, level up enough, and earn enough money to buy the necessary equipment. But you still have to be on high alert and reload often because death and things worse than death lurk around every corner. Plus, there are enemies and places in the endgame part of the map that will rape you anyway
>Reddit would probably love it
Retard. You've never even played it. The game is filled with rape, slavery, extreme degradation, fictional racism and actual racism toward niggers and jews (there's literally a joke about I CAN'T BREEVE) as well as hate toward faggots and troons. The positive characters are borderline retarded, and you're better off being a scumbag to even finish the game
>it's a loli
The age is not specified btw. She looks adult enough to me

>>717178632
Shut up faggot.

>see someone else suffer
>don't care but don't be a dick about it
What is this called?

>>717178879
Apathy

>>717174967
Dude was mind raped, he didn’t choose to be a bad guy.

>>717173398
>BECAUSE ITS... LE HEROIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moids are so fucking cringe.

Is this the Hatred thread?

>>717178772
>Racism toward niggers and jews
>Hate toward faggots and troons
And the white people?

>>717172861 (OP)
Remember: enjoying things is cringe, helping others is cringe, being happy is cringe

What is based is being cynic 24/7, don't feel any genuine emotion and complain about everything on 4chan

>>717172861 (OP)
>muh revenge
I thought this was a Christian board?
I get so sick of hearing teenagers talk like this: "Though I am only 20 I have experienced suffering on a scale no other man has before me, I am truly the Facebook meme of the guy full of arrows..."
Grow the hell up lmao, you think life will get better if you act like a bitter dickhead? Pure incel logic

>>717172861 (OP)
Because Japan has a culture of not inconveniencing others instead of being self-centered assholes. The US could use some of that.

>>717178879
Being an npc

>>717178632
The generations prior to me did not do this. Everyone can go fuck themselves.

>>717179215
And the cycle continues through bitter incels, nothing changes

I will give 4chan the same rethoric but better explained to reveal OP's true from


>the jews buck broke me so I will help them buck break everyone else
Chad
>the jews buck broke me so I will kill them all so nobody else gets buck broken
So¥

>>717178879
Pragmatic

>>717178349
>It's De Sade's Justine, but in video game form?
Kinda. It's way worse though. Every single misstep leads to either death or sex slavery (you technically can escape, but you'd better off just reloading a save). Everything is pretty graphic. Starvation, injuries and misery are your constant companions.
And the whole worldbuilding is pretty ruthless and grim. Life is hard for Lona until you learn how to survive
>without porn/sex
TECHNICALLY you can avoid all the porn. Porn is not actually the main point of the game. It's just that playing as a young girl has its consequences. I'd even say that you're supposed to avoid being gangraped, because the style is actually disgusting and very sadistic. You have to be an actual sadistic weirdo to enjoy it (but then again it's still pretty disgusting). But then there's still a "succubus" route, lol. Fucking everyone to death is an option as well. It's an actual RPG btw

>>muh revenge
>I thought this was a Christian board?
>I get so sick of hearing teenagers talk like this: "Though I am only 20 I have experienced suffering on a scale no other man has before me, I am truly the Facebook meme of the guy full of arrows..."
>Grow the hell up lmao, you think life will get better if you act like a bitter dickhead? Pure incel logic

Hobbes won, Rousseau lost

>>717178173
see: >>717177986

>>717178879
Chinese.

>>717179026
>And the white people?
None

>>717179151
Life actually does reward being an evil asshole tho

>>717179428
>superficial response based on vanity
Typical basedjakker

>>717179569
Do your family, friends, and loved ones reward you for it?

>>717179510
Typical disingenuous propaganda porn slop.

>>717175820
>anon has never heard of the term martyrdom
>anon doesn't understand what being a martyr means

jesuschrist won because the romans that crucified him ended up worshipping him and spreading his word which is what he wanted, a sacrifice for a greater good

>>717172861 (OP)
>I suffered. Why shouldn't they?
What games are actually like this and follow through with it?

>>717179151
It’s called being a Calvanist, not that an unchristian (probably C*tholic) worm like you would understand

>>717179783
>I le... need God to be good!
Lol please dont reply to me again Pr*testant

>>717179706
Hahaha, fuck off, nigger

>>superficial response based on vanity
>Typical basedjakker

>>717177376
>not getting the Alpha Centauri reference
You're the underage one here.

>>717179893
Oh no a disparaging image
The world must now suffer for this sleight

>>717173312
>not one person got the reference
/v/ really is dead

suffering is good when it benefits me

>>717173863
That's the point, fuckass. There are always going to be problems and hardships, so it's important to offer each other the respite we can. If I ask you to do 100 pushups in a row, odds are you can't. If you do 10, rest, do 10, rest, repeat you can go beyond 100 easy. Be that rest for each other. It's literally that easy.

>>717179783
>It’s called being a Calvanist
Coldsteel the hedgehog: The religion

>>717178754
>Egyptians who have kept in depth historical record, have zero writings that cite 'ever having a large amount of Hebrew Slaves, or there ever being a large Hebrew revolt or escape'
pure cope, the pharaoh of the Moses story is from the Ramses dynasty, the last dynasty of egypt ruled by egyptians, in that dynasty is that egypt lost its position as the biggest super power to the mesopotamians, egyptians were a bunch of butthurt faggots that erased all evidence of shit they didn't like, you can cope about egyptians never writting about it, truth is they got fucked in the ass in the Ramses dynasty and nobody knows why

>>717179883
>White people can't be evil in my evil porn game
I'm just very disappointed. Your despair game got some gay ass anchor. Let me guess, there's no evil Christians either?
Propaganda porn slop for coomers who wish they were nazis

>>717180070
Why?

>>717173729
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

I never experienced suffering so I ensure that everyone else does for uhhh character development or some shit

>>717179151
>you think life will get better if you act like a bitter dickhead?
Most of the misery and chronic frustration in society today is because people are pushovers and don't set aside their sense of morality, justice and sensitivity and have the willingness to hurt people.
If you went out of your way to have a side of being a Machiavellian piece of shit your life would tremendously improve as would the lives of your loved ones. Not to say being like that 100% of the team is wise, because it isn't. But revenge is necessary to create stability and discouragement of even worse suffering.

>>717179995
Correct.

>>717172861 (OP)
>left
boomer mentality
>right
good on paper but often taken to an illogical extreme (helping those who made you suffer)

>>717179026
>faggots and troons
>white people
tautology

>>717180164
proof?

>>717179569
the death machine does and it rewards you with mammon which is ultimately worthless

Mark 8:36
>For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

>>717180164
>You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Yeah but sometimes the gun is aimed at your feet.

>>717180259
>He thinks you can just flip a switch in your head and turn into a dark triad Chad
It doesn't work like that. Not even if you read the 48 laws of power every month.

>>717174776
>His victorious rival, Vitellius, intended to use Sporus as a victim in a public entertainment: a fatal "re-enactment" of the Rape of Proserpina at a gladiator show. Sporus avoided this public humiliation by committing suicide
Why were the Romans so evil? This is like Mesoamerican tier cruelty.

>>717172861 (OP)
I didn't suffer that much in retrospect. But I'll make others suffer cuz why not. LoL. Blame god for letting me live.

>>717173630
Why did you erase the N on his forehead

>>717180259
There's a huge gap between being firm and stoic and being a reactionary evil shitbag.

>Oh no a disparaging image
>The world must now suffer for this sleight

>>717177943
There's a world of difference between pleasing others and not inflicting suffering upon them, but you're a braindead nigger ape so there's not much use in pointing such obvious things out to an animal such as yourself

>>717180125
No, there’s no record of enslavement.
There are records of Canaanite guest workers, I guess would be the best description. Egypt was the main power around the Mediterranean. The Phoenicians were more traders and decentralized.
The Canaanites developed the first phonetic alphabet, using the simplified version of hieroglyphics. So that’s cool.
In the case of the Exodus, the scale of the events and the impact of the characters are simply too huge to not leave a trace (whether textual or archeological). So the fact they didn't is certainly a strong evidence for the accounts being legendary, meaning they might have a seed of historical truth in them (maybe a memory of Egyptian rule over Canaan during the Bronze Age or maybe a memory of a small group of a few thousands who moved from Egypt like the Biblical scholar Richard Elliott Friedman suggests) but that's it.
But it’s more like they’d come to Egypt, work, earn money, maybe stay for a while, then head home to buy some land and sheep. There were probably some who settled in, got married, had kids, and stayed for a few generations.
There’s a lot of conjecture about the various Canaanite tribes and their beliefs in different gods. It can be very interesting. The Jews/Hebrews/Israelites were a Canaanite tribe. That’s why they returned there

t. Reddit guy

>>717180373
>Why were the Romans so evil?
Aryan Faustian spirit

>>717180267
Machiavelli was good though

>>717174352
Fire punch

It's not a game but I don't care

>>717180571
Suffering is subjective, just don't let my actions bother you if they cause you suffering.

>>717172861 (OP)
OP just african american.

>>717180550
MILLIONS MUST PAY

>>717180070
>so it's important to offer each other the respite we can.
Why? Me offering you respite is a waste of time. I could shoot you in the head and rape your corpse because it's fun and benefits me in the long run since I take your money too. You sentimental low test tranny.

>>717180625
I'm also working for the greater good

>>717180750
Jewish spirit on this one

>>717180131
>White people can't be evil in my evil porn game
You're retarded, jew. Everyone is evil in this game
>nazis
The game is made by a Taiwanese, clown

>>717180113
>Objectively correct: the religion
ftfy

It's OK Timmy, the bullying will stop eventually and then maybe you will become a real man when you reflect on it.

>>717180584
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THERE IS NO RECORD
the record is Kemet and their culture ni longer exists while Israel is still there kek

>>717180889
All the more reason to seek revenge

>>717180970
I'd recommend finding a family to start and actualizing your superego
Not this dirt crawling tit for tat

>>717180848
there is nothing objectively correct about calvinism

>>717172861 (OP)
You're both wrong, somehow.

>>717181015
Why?

>>717180539
No shit sherlock. Except there comes a point where society being reactionary and causing some change is better than doing nothing. Being firm and stoic has its place but there comes a point where that doesn't create an optimal result.

>>717181079
I can't answer that for you, its a spiritual question answered from within
Anything i say will be a platitude to the revenge sick mind

>>717180791
And yet the Jews have enslaved you and are destroying your race and society. Cope.

>>717173312
Based an human hive pilled

>>717180848
Nothing objective correct about it, just a Christianity variant to appeal to narcissists and edgelords.

>>717181060
>there is nothing objectively correct about calvinism
…on opposite day

>>717180539
>being a reactionary evil shitbag.
>just lay there and take it, chud!
kek

>>717181153
>I'll become a Jew to save society!
And the world is reduced to rubble to satisfy your ego.

>>717173225
league of legends
dota
world of warcraft
starcraft
smash bros

>>717181153
Can't take your moral grandstanding seriously after you talked about raping a corpse.

>>717181206
Learn how to draw a line without crossing it yourself

>build platform that rewards outrage and viral garbage
>misinformation spreads faster than truth
>antivax memes, flat Earth, election lies, genocide fuel
>“we’re just a tech company, not responsible for content :)”

>let shady political firms scrape user data
>claim it was a rogue app
>actually encouraged it behind the scenes
>harvest billions of people's info, sell democracy to the highest bidder

>algorithm pushes people toward extremism
>“our internal study says it’s radicalizing users... anyway”
>used by authoritarians worldwide to stoke hate and control speech

>design platform to be addictive on purpose
>teens doomscroll, compare themselves, spiral into depression
>“Instagram makes girls feel worse about their bodies? oops lol”

>gut the journalism industry
>real news can’t survive Facebook’s algorithm
>local papers die, fake headlines thrive

> meanwhile
>had loving family, private school, early access to tech, no trauma
>never suffered
>caused suffering at a global scale anyway
It doesn’t get anymore based than this. “Le i suffered so you should too” is some limp wristed sissy shit.

>>717181206
You're proving his point right now.

>>717181149
You've given me no reason to listen to you then

>>717181195
Are you so weak that you deny your own will? That you would unstead bring order to the chaos of reality by embracing the children's fairytale that is fate or destiny? Calvinism is like hiding under a blanket at night, ceiling yourself from the scary monsters.

>>717179742
Your life.

>>717181359
There is no true reason to reflect upon yourself except spiritual growth. I can't give that to you.

>>717181060
Is that what the kids are calling sleeping with your mom these days.

>>717181257
You created the strawman of morality like a cuck, not me.

>>717181064
>2004+21
Rent-free to this day.

>>717181404
Then there's no reason to do it

>>717181470
Very ubermensch of you, homosexual necrophile

>>717172924
yeah, gets reposted constantly along with a bunch of other shit
>yeah... humans... they choose to make others suffer, every time, without fail, and you're a beta bitch pussy if you don't...

>>717172861 (OP)
because all intelligence, as it grows, understands that suffering is bad and reducing any and all suffering is the only coherent goal of life
edgelords will fight this simple truth tooth and nail even as we enter an age of abundant intelligence that seeks to do just that

>>717181509
Thats your call.
There's no real reason to be evil except vanity.

>>717181518
Thanks

>>717181552
It's all just insecurity. OP doesn't know how much of a weak loser he looks like.

>>717181552
This is only true on at the individual level

>>717172861 (OP)
because developers are afraid that making an evil route be enjoyable would result in them getting cancelled by kotaku et al

>>717181606
Vanity is more of a reason than what you've offered

>>717181552
>the only coherent goal of life
Is to propagate itself. Reducing suffering is downstream of that since it means more individuals live to reproducing age but it's still a derivative goal.

>>717173312
>it's a chink having this worldview
How did Sid Meier get away with it?

>>717181552
>understands that suffering is bad and reducing any and all suffering is the only coherent goal of life
Reducing suffering means making others suffer.

>>717174694
OP

>>717181710
Is it?

>>717172861 (OP)
I don’t care about the suffering a fictional character went through or inflicts on others, unless it’s presented in a humorous way

>>717182014
It is

>>717180889
You're a pussy. Real men fight back and make bullies suffer.

>>717182087
I hope it works out for you and you die surrounded by loved ones.