Thread 717201474

What is the best RPG of all time and why is it Wrath of the Righteous?

>>717201474 (OP)
itll never be wotr because the combat is dogshit
fun game though

Canon KC is
>Aasimar
>Female
>Bard
>Chaotic Good
>Azata
>Romance Arue
>Ascension ending
>Impregnated with twins

I liked Kingmaker better.

>>717201474 (OP)
Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal.
>>717202097
Are you just being a contrarian on purpose?

>>717201474 (OP)
This is so far from "flawless" that i dont even know where to start lmao

Actually, lets start with "dogshit combat". Just compare WOTR to a game like BG3 lmao, in terms of how encounters go. BG3 isnt perfect by any stretch of imagination but holy shit the difference is like theyre different genres, or like WOTR was designed by someone who has heard RPGs have mechanics and rolls, but never considered they also have whole bunch of other options other than "prebuff and attack, if you roll higher than enemy AC then you win"

And then theres the RTWP meme -- why they still included that shit as an option in a Pathfinder game, a turn based system, is just puzzling

>>717201474 (OP)
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/Vwy_YygriC-ZfygtqvLwkQ/
>>717201917
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/BM5uBUqCq4oN1cpgPyn4Mg/
Why are Owltards like this?

>>717202254
this, the only good thing about them is the waifus and mythic paths.

>>717201474 (OP)
How do I position characters well because that elf chick from the beginning keeps fucking dying.

>>717202254
>BG3
I stopped reading there. You're clearly a tencent shill with clear ill intentions. WotR is the best CRPG made to date.

>>717202220
Is there one single thing that Baldur's Gate 2 do better than Wrath?

WOTR shits on it completely.

>>717202626
>the only good thing about them is the waifus
They're literally all shit besides Arueshalae and even that one is mediocre

>>717202765
Cuck opinion

>>717201474 (OP)
more like woke of the self-righteous

>>717202926
He gets off to Arue cucking him so you'd be right

>>717202220
>Are you just being a contrarian on purpose?

No, I've always preferred more personal goals, saving da wurld is so fucking played out, it doesn't feel important anymore. This is also why my most favorite Mass Effect game is 2.

>>717202765
The problem with BG3 is that its way too easy and its unfortunately based on a retard-friendly 5th ed DND, which is literally a system made for normies who never played an RPG before

And it still manages to create encounters that are from a different league compared to WOTR, if only just based on the amount of interactivity with the environment if nothing else

/crpgg/ was a mistake. These people are retards.

>>717202254
(also, about encounters: I would have mentioned Solasta as an example of DnD combat encounters done right instead of BG3, but 1) most of you normies in here have never played it 2) Solasta has horrible production value, animations, dialogues etc. overall jank, which opens me up to being ridiculed from that angle)

>>717202926
>Cuck
Why I'm not surprised the bear fucker is projecting his fetish
Also not argument so I accept your concession
>>717202963
Read above. And my Azata post while you are at it.
>>717203162
>Encounters that are from a different league
Encounters the player can exploit a million different ways and just skip any all mechanics it could have, BG3 has no difficulty. Meanwhile WotR forces the player to learn the rules and engage with them if they wish to win. None of them have the power of stacking barrels or dropping a heavy chest on an enemy head.
BG3 is shit. Even the writing is terrible since voice acting shrinks the amount of roleplay you could have because of the costs of paying actors.

>>717202709
>that elf chick
Where?

>>717201917
based azata yurifag
inb4 farquad having a melty

>>717202789
BG2's companions and party banter blow wotr out of the water.

The best RPG is the one (you) enjoyed the most

>>717201474 (OP)
RTWP is awful. And the game simply isn't designed around turn based, unlike Rogue Trader.

>>717203314
>Solasta
I played it BITCH and I liked IT. Have you played Dark Envoy or Tower of Time?

>>717205372
lol no

>>717205372
Wenducucks don't even know the character their waifu ripped off, Owltards haven't played BG2 and don't know the companions.

>>717203314
What? Everyone agrees Solasta encounter design is bad

>>717205892
Edwin is trans btw

>>717206110
>succubus had sex
Stop the presses

>>717205929
Solasta's base campaign encounter design is GOOD since the fights encourage you to use different spells and abilities due to the different enemy types and their weaknesses, plus the game having actual verticality means theres a lot more freedom with positioning

>>717206103
Edwin is forced to troon out with a curse and he's treated like a joke, everyone makes fun of him for it, as it should be.

>>717206302
You are the first to say that, literally making shit up.
Everyone knows Solasta has one of the worst encounter design in games.

Give one single example of this good encounter design, show a single webm, i'll wait.

>>717206110
>Arue was raped
>Wendu tries to cuck you
>Cam cucks you
Why is Owlcat like this bros???

>>717206110
Worst character ever

>>717206620
9/10 portraits
-5/10 actual ingame models

>>717206482
Not my gameplay but should suffice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwwKkiueo6c

>>717206482
I see what he means with the verticality stuff atleast, none of that in Pathfinder

>>717206625
I'm sorry that Arue is better than your waifu anon

All they had to do was make a proper mommy route, is that so hard?

Just finished rogue trader and immediately bough kingmaker and this and all their content. What am I in for?

>>717206620
>Wendu tries to cuck you
>Cam cucks you
explain

>>717206715
>Random long walkthrough from Youtube

Anon i asked you to post an example or webm not to do lazy copy paste youtube link and its not even a clip its literally a 35minute gameplay walkthrough.

>>717207252
It's gameplay of a single encounter, ya idjit.

>>717207338
This just proves you have nothing.

Try again.

>>717207216
>>Wendu tries to cuck you
Refer to the image
>Cam cucks you
Camellia keeps killing people off-screen and she likes to have sex after her kills, at one point she even starts sneaking off to the brothel behind your back and never intended you tell you about it, pretending to be a first timer when you go with her during her act 4 quest, you only find out because the owner rats her out

>>717207360
It's gameplay of a single encounter, how is it not proof?

>>717207428
Because it doesn't prove the game has good encounter design.
You are required to post a webm or a clip or at least post an example and explain why its good.

Instead you resorted to the easy and lazy way of dumping a random Youtube walkthrough link that features basic and random battle which can be found in any turnbased game ever.

>>717207160
Less fun combat but more opportunities to roleplay.

>>717207557
Again, it is gameplay of a single encounter not a random walkthrough. Being dense is not an argument.

>>717207653
Explain why the encounter you posted is good, give reasons why.

>>717207252
You're a stupid nigger expecting people to jump through hoops to entertain your shitpost.

>>717207875
>Makes retarded claims
>Gets asked to prove the claims
>Sends the first random walkthrough link he found via search
>Gets asked to explain his example
>Retarded screeching

ok lol

>>717205827
NTA but are those like solasta? I absolutely loved that game.

>>717207985
by your own logic, you should explain your claim with evidence instead of going lolno youre wrong.
should be easy after since "everyone" knows.

powerscaling in wotr was just too high, end game wotr is just 50 million buffs that isn't even enjoyable without an auto buffing addon.

PF2E is a much better system and I hope someone makes a real game with that. The BG3 mod is nice

>>717208241
I hear Dawnsbury Days is good

>>717206103
>Ablegaurd, please let the crew know that trans rights are human rights

>>717206767
is this slop?

>>717208545
No

>>717207160
in for a big learning curve and a slow start. melee classes get an extra attack at lvl 5 and thats about when mages start getting fun stuff so tough it out till then

>>717207705
The encounter starts you off with you being harried by long range enemies, including a mage, seperated from you by a chasm with a small choke point guarded by the strong mid-close ranged enemies which makes you have to check positioning to avoid getting AoE'd or mass CC'd. The game gives you multiple options and tools to allow you to deal with this such as teleporting or flying towards them, engaging in long ranged duels with them with your own long ranged fighters or using CC to keep them down until your heavy hitters can get in range of them.

The ones guarding the chokepoint all have unique quirks to them such as the hard hitting slealthy one, the giant enemy who's body covers a lot of space and the one who pokes at you from behind with poison darts, you're encouraged to use CC to keep them down and you have plenty of options since they don't have any hard immunities to anything.

The 2nd half of the encounter is about dealing with the flying mages who have counter spell and the vrock which also serves as the intro to a new enemy type that helps you learn the abilities and weaknesses of said type for later fights in the game.

>>717208161
Similar level of jank but they're RTwP games where they tried to make movement and positioning more important, they're pretty solid games

>>717203314
Solasta encounters are mediocre.
They are: Repetitive, Rigid, Predictable, have Poor use of Environment, No Roleplay Impact ,Poor Pacing, No Signature Moments, No Mid-Fight Evolution and the game ignores & punishes inventive strategies.

Even Wasteland 3 is better. GTFOH with this Solasta crap

I really want to enjoy the game, so many people laud it as amazing but I get so bored with it almost immediately. I figured that the boring combat must be the price to pay for an amazing setting/writing, but neither of those appear to be there. The dialog is like two levels less than Pillars of Eternity, which in itself isn't particularly good.
You literally have one of the characters say, "girl, you must be ---" in this gay overly sassy Californian manner within 10m of the start. Who reads this shit and thinks, "yeah, this is worth my time"

>>717208618
ah yes i knew i recognized that art style. one day i need to dive into 2ch and beg for esoteric pathfinder art

Purely from gameplay, Gold Dragon or Aeon?

I abandoned all the companions and just ran 5 mercs.
It's nice without all the drama.

>>717209567
aeon, in plot and gameplay

>>717209068
Uhhh yea, Wateland 3 is a masterpiece. Solasta is worse but still amazing.
Randomness is never as good as designed fights but I appreciate the replay value that BG3 legendary designed fights dont have. Once you know what to expect there is no thrill, chance, or much fun to be had.

>>717206691
Rogue Trader has the same problem.

>>717209396
As a past hater I get the hate. After 200 hours it just clicked though and became the greatest games I ever played.
I understand most people would choose not yo suffer for 200 hours...

>>717209068
>>717209650
I liked both Solasta and Wasteland 3 BITCH.

>>717209436
>2ch
Yeah I got it from there, sometimes I see fanart posted that isn't on mion's vk and I have no idea where it is from

>>717209636
whats Aeon even get to make it good?

>>717209650
>Wasteland 3 is a masterpiece
Good joke

>>717208491
the game is fine but the artstyle and story are horseshit.

>>717210430
I dont know if my tastes off or the DLC really is that next level absolutely atrocious. Ive heard its bad.

>>717208161
Theyre RTWP with extreme time slowdown

I tried to like them really hard, since especially Tower of Time seems peak soul, but they werent for me

Might go back to ToT at some point, maybe

>>717207252
>a webm of turnbased tactical game
Gee, I wonder how amazing that must look

You know what your doing with asking for a webm presentation, as if fireworks going off on screen were indication of good combat system lul

>>717209853
What exactly clicked? What made you love this game?

>>717210339
The free dispels are nice for a martial, lowering enemy dcs is nice too.

>>717210804
You need to really embrace minmaxxing to enjoy wotr.

>>717210646
Steeltown is fine. Holy Detonation filters people since it focuses around objective based encounters rather than just straight up killing enemies, which ended up filtering a lot of people because if you didn't complete some objectives enemies would respawn infinitely. Final Boss of the DLC was also a filter for similar reasons. Holy Detonation is fun though so long as you PAY ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING OBJECTIVES

Final boss song btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQDlOvm6hNs

>>717201474 (OP)

AY *smacks lips*

Lemme tell u somethin white boi. We wuz the original knights in Europe.

>>717201474 (OP)
Underrail.

>>717211005
me too dylan. They made me realize my shit was bricked on my first playthrough

>>717201474 (OP)
One of my favorite games but
>flawless
Come on

>>717211103
Hey at least Underrail is kind enough to add a filter (Junkyard) so you know if your build is viable for the rest of the game

>>717210980
>Europefag
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

>>717210980
>has zero perception
>still the one who I SEEN... SOMETHIN' all the traps

>>717210804
Once you finally understand the mechanics. The issue is its ridiculous learning curve and not all of us are autistic zoomers who watch build guides or streams. I like to go in blinde which made it tough.
Once you know how everything comes together and how to adapt to the challenges the difficulty and massive options in overcoming are unlike any other game out there. Absolute fucking horse shit before hand though, especially with the over the top overly aggressive autistic looser fanbase who'll telll you its easy becuase they watch guides for hoursca day and have spent their life not having sex playing DND.
That and I play with permadeath as Im a degenerate gambler and it makes everything 5x more thrilling. 3 Houses broke gaming for me,

>>717204089
It's after you get that black girl Paladin.

>>717210902
Absolute kino. I still listen to battle hymn of the republic.

>>717201474 (OP)
KOTOR II.

>>717211493
Unfortunately I'm one of those no sex having dnd playing losers who understands the system perfectly well. I don't see the game being worth the pace and time invested after having put in several attempts at starting up runs in the past. Too slow and writing isn't good enough to compensate for the boredom
Thank you for your thoughts tho, I'm glad you enjoy the game

>>717211682
just give cami a bow for now. she's one of those characters people dip with a pile other classes and need 5mins of prebuffing to stamd at the front without melting

>>717211682
The elf becomes a great dex tank but for that first bit I just send in the mighty nigress with the extra blocking option first, make sure all enemies are targeting her. Than advance the other melee.

Aeons fine for martials, Gold Dragon is good for any build.

>>717201474 (OP)
should i buy this game?

>>717212090
>300 hours in kingmaker
Sure.

>>717212027
Do one last run, put the difficulty down 1, and don't revive any dead companions. Quit the moment your MC dies. I promise it will be your best run.

>>717211493
Pathfinder is a shit system that attracts the worst kinds of autists. Still, I also like WOTR despite it's unfortunate system.

>>717212223
if I liked WotR would I like Kingmaker?

wotr is good game yea
original sin 2 was good too, if you play solo on hard

>>717211493
>Once you know how everything comes together and how to adapt to the challenges the difficulty and massive options in overcoming are unlike any other game out there
Literally just prebuff and watch everything die, maybe use dispel magic if you're playing on hard or above

>>717212313
Than go pick up a black big titty chubster on tinder.

>>717212450
I didnt know about the mod. Yea that made a huge difference as well.

>>717212356
yeah but kingmaker feels very dull after youve experienced the mythic paths. the mythics gave you progression until the very end but in kingmaker your party will be as good as they'll get halfway through the game and progression dies

>>717201474 (OP)
I wish Owlcat would hire a decent composer for their games, they're a big studio now, surely they have the money

>>717212223
Kek

>>717212356
Opinions are all over the place on that one. Just try it.
>t. despised Kingmaker but really liked WOTR

>>717212739
Biggest mystery to me will always be fromsoft. Yea its ok, each game has a good song and the ER theme song is killer.
Still for such a perfectionist studio they are way behind the other jrpgs.
I thought it was cause they started with a mid guy but every game has a new composer. Why?

>>717212880
Which one did you start with and was it the kingdom management?

>>717212739
AFAIK they don't have an in-house composer (which is pretty weird given their size nowadays), they outsource music instead. Lately, Owlcat's been collaborating a lot with Pawel Metelica who also wrote that goddamn awful Dark Heresy theme, and apparently he's also writing music for the Expanse project as well

>>717213092
Started with Kingmaker
Kingdom management contributed to it. It's not too bad in and of itself but there are too many time gates, and there are times where you will just be fast forwarding through days so some decision you made can get enacted so you can progress some quest.
The bigger issue for me was the writing just feels too...whimsical? If you ever played the first Divinity: Original Sin, it's like that. Wrath is a lot more down-to-Earth, relatively speaking.

>>717212959
>>717213496
Owlcat is more on the "music as a background noise" side of things. Their soundtracks are servicable and that's more than enough for the kind of games they produce.

>>717212959
>Biggest mystery to me will always be fromsoft.
i mean they had musical group ''freQuency" and Kota Hoshino to write godlike osts for armored core, until 2009 demon souls. dunno why they doesn t have good music now. thoug 2009 was 15 years ago ye

Why are there so many dogshit repetitive encounters featuring the same enemies over and over. What a bland-ass game.

>>717210980
DEY HEA

>>717213667
>Divinity: Original
Im 80% though that game and for the life of me can't find the fucks to give you beat it. Great start though.

>>717201474 (OP)
It's fantastic. I'd say top 4 is wotr, dos2, kingmaker and bg3. Each of them is worthy of being the GOAT. WOTR is definitely the most EPIC rpg ever, and pretty much the ultimate power fantasy rpg. There's nothing else on the market that offers the same experience.

>owlcrap
>best anything
do you get paid to spam this shit?

>>717216010
That's the worst part, he does it for free

>>717203162
>And it still manages to create encounters that are from a different league compared to WOTR

Exploding barrels and electrifiable puddles, such incredible encounter design lol

The verticality is admittedly fun, although that was done better in Solasta

>>717215696
Because they don't know how to design them, the gameplay is purely focused on build the characters

>>717201474 (OP)
I still get angry thinking about how bad this game was

>10
>03
I willll not fall to bait such as this! Knights, we have faggots in our midst!

>>717216583
What bait, it's literally true >>717202296

>79
>he's a new to the threads
You insult me? Better to have not posted at all. For this offense, you must die!

>>717210804
He kepts playing it nonstop until he finally convinced himself that it was good so as to pretend he didn't waste his time

>>717203162
Tactician is about on par with kingmaker/wotr core difficulty. BG3 just doesn't have the equivalent of unfair mode. Then again, unfair mode is not relevant for the average player who struggles with core difficulty in pathfinder or tactician in bg3. From the perspective of 90% of playerbase who play on normal difficulty I doubt there is much difference in difficulty between these games.

>>717201474 (OP)
this is one of the worst rpgs I have ever played

>>717212356
it's weaker from a gameplays standpoint, but kingmaker is more SOULFUL

>>717202789
Companions
Combat system
Encounter design
Story
Writing
Ruleset
Exploration
Lack of shitty minigames

All are several magnitudes better in BG2 than any Owlcat trash. All of their games feel like a cheap Russian Unity Engine bootleg because that's what they are.

>>717220173
>Baldur's Gate 2
>Combat system
>Encounter design

lol, lmao even

>>717220806
Yeah, they're way better. You can actually move around during combat and it feels responsive. A 25 year old engine feels better than Owlcat's Unity Engine slop where the companions all feel like they're moving underwater while they bump into walls and spin in circles as they're trying to flank enemies.

>>717221352
Delusional

>>717221497
You've either never actually played BG2 or never tried playing a single Owlcat game in real time mode.

3rd game never ever and it makes me sad, I just want to do Ruins of Azlant as a crpg.

>>717221662
Because their games suck. Using Bag of Tricks to bypass bugs and terrible game design shouldn't be a requirement.

>>717220173
Encounters in BG2 are just
>walk into room
>get CC'd for 30 seconds
>check which CC it was
>reload
>buff against that CC
>walk into room again and win instantly

I would love a 2e owlcat game

>>717221804
Don't care the games are still comfy and cost $40 less than the crap major studios put out.

>>717221994
You barely have to use buffs in BG2 except against vampires, mind flayers, and select "boss encounters" like dragons and liches. Against beholders, you just have to wear a shield that reflects their gaze attacks and they kill themselves.

>>717220173
In what way is any of those things better in bg2? You've obviously never played WOTR, or any modern crpg. BG2 is a good game, great in its day, but it's mid-tier now and is mediocre in every single category you listed by modern crpg standards. AD&D is simple and bare bones system, and bg2 has no encounter design to speak off. No builds, no challenge in combat, auto-leveling due to lack of any input you can make on your character's progress. All you do in combat is buff up when necessary, spam wand of summons to create meat shields and autoattack enemies to death.

>>717222121
What are you talking about, every other room has dudes that will paralyze you for half a minute. It was completely ridiculous.
Rooms without any CC casting guy were over immediately so yes perhaps the many encounters with heavy group CC stood out more. It was a silly amount though.

>>717222253
The Wand of Monster summoning sucks ass in BG2. They die instantly since the best one only summons 6 HD monsters. The only summons worth a damn in that game are skeleton warriors against mind flayers and Devas in Throne of Bhaal. I can tell that you watched a BG2 streamer once or twice without having actually played it.

>>717220864
i will never understand how the fuck they believed ac 50-60+ enemies were okay holy shit
>y-you just have to buff for about 5 minutes before every encounter and have this specific 2-3 builds to beat the game
zzzzzzz

How's this game, fellow RPG autists?
I like build autism and it looks like it has that. The game is almost offensively ugly but I'm tempted to give it a shot when it hits like 40% off

>>717222372
>every other room has dudes that will paralyze you for half a minute.

You're talking about the mind flayers and you just have to cast a single spell to avoid their paralysis--chaotic commands. One fucking spell. I'm playing Kingmaker again and I have to cast 20 fucking buff spells every single time I enter an new area or I get owned late game.

>>717201474 (OP)>Want to play this game for the first time, already started creating custom portraits with AI slop as it's downloading
>it doesn't run on my dogshit PC
>boughted on xbox, can't use custom portraits
>Go create my character, there's no literally me character among the picks, I can't create my cool chad OC anymore
For fuck sake, the male portraits are all ugly as fuck. How can I self insert?

>>717222806
>>it doesn't run on my dogshit PC
Just how garbage is your toaster?

Lich is proving to be a pretty fun caster once you start progressing, my only regret is not meta gaming and going LE and getting a level of Scaled Fist instead of just 20 levels of Sorcerer.

>>717206691
Seriously why do 90% of the outfits just look like you're wearing 10 layers of rags?

>>717222915
Because it's unity asset trash. I've seen most of the same assets in other games like Solasta

>>717222706
I think part of why I didn't find it fun is that the CC is insanely long so it's frankly faster to just reload rather than deal with the hand you've been dealt. The fact that you have to open up your guy's status page to even check which exact debuff you've been hit with doesn't help.
It's just not a fun system at all, you either win immediately or you sit there for 20 seconds while your party is disabled. I don't remember any tense encounters where I had to specifically think about how to tackle them whatsoever, all I did is reload and apply the one spell.
I also don't love buffing in Kingmaker but to be honest it really only got annoying to me near the end of the game

>>717223049
Ahh I see, makes sense. They made new models for all their OCs but not unique outfits for the most important character (the player character).

>>717222880
>Just how garbage is your toaster?
Calculator tier, apparently. It runs Kingmaker just fine.

>>717202789
off the top of my head, time sink things in wotr.

for instance, the army manager. cool idea, but in practice is just a shittier dumbed down version of heroes and might magic.

to that end, kingdom management in general is tedious and often feels pointless and unsatisfying as your choices make no discernable difference 99 percent of the time.

in fact the only meaningful decisions (what items you can research) are hidden, so you have to randomly guess should you turn a relic into a ring or a cape and then hope you don't get the shitty one. oops, you picked cape of +1 magic missile bolt instead of ring of summon nuclear warheads; your fault for not being able to predict the future.

also the main hub felt like a city more.

i'll also say i think irenicus is a better villain than areelu, but only because areelu isn't really a villain to your characters, she's more of a protagonist to you in many paths, but i do like areelu

also fun to be a thief and pickpocket people

also spells felt more powerful, i mean nothing beats time stop

>>717223332
>but only because areelu isn't really a villain to your characters
She literally caused the entire mess to begin with and tries to kill you at the end of the game

>>717221563
Here's a tip retard: when a guy responds to you with no actual argument and one word he's baiting you.

>>717223191
You "didn't find it fun" because you don't understand the rule system or how any of the spells work. If you had just read what chaotic commands did, you'd have avoided the being paralyzed by the mind flayers. 95% of the fights in BG2 either required no buffs or just haste for my fighters. The other 5% were niche cases such as mind flayers or dragons which may have required 4 or 5 buffs. In Kingmaker or WotR, I am casting 10+ buffs on EVERY FUCKING MAP and most of them only consist of a couple of fights before I have to go through the same process again. All of the encounters in Kingmaker spawn monsters out of thin air as soon as you see an enemy all around your party where there weren't any before. It's so fucking stupid and immersion breaking. Why are there a billion enemies spawning behind me to attack my casters when I had just cleared that area?

>>717223415
she caused the mess to 'the world'. to you all she ever does is give you more powers and shit and give you tips.

also at the end she doesn't really want to kill you, and if you do the secret route will technically kill herself.

i mean, i like areelu, im just saying comparitively, in a lot of playthroughs she's got your back.

irenicus consistently tries to fuck you over the entire game while calling you like, an ant and a bug and a mageling and weird shit. if i remember right he wants to suck your soul out then kill you or whatever.

areelu is more like, gee i hope youre my son and remember me

I have tried like 10 times to play this piece of shit and every time I get to the boring wannabe might and magic combat I just stop because I realize I am not enjoying myself

>5 Levels Demonslayer
>5 Levels Spawn Slayer
>2 Levels 2H Fighter
I think my build is kind of ruined, I did the two level dip for feats and now I want to add another dip from Disciple of the Pike since they specialize in using Fauchards

>>717223609
No, she definitely does want to kill you, she sees you as a failed experiment and tries to kill you to try again, she even goes out of her way to put a spell to kill herself to force you to kys to close the Worldwound

>>717223581
When you play BG2 for the first time you do not in fact know which rooms contain mind flayers and thus when to cast chaotic commands before entering

>>717223439
Here's a tip retard: kill yourself.

Kingmaker was significantly better.

>>717223932
There are a grand total of two areas in the game that contain mind flayers. In the sewers, the game tells you that you're about to enter a very dangerous area with floating text. For the other area, you are definitely warned about the ones in the underdark because you go through a series of cutscenes after being captured by them. You'd know that if you had actually played the game.

>>717223689
it is pretty hilarious how egregious it is

>>717210229
LOL

>>717224414
sloppa doesn't count

>>717224248
I don't remember dude I don't think it was only the mindflayers. Being warned about mindflayers in the next hours of gameplay does not help much when the counter spell only lasts like one encounter.
I even liked the game, I just think the combat encounters are shit.

>>717224494
There is no sloppa there :)

>>717222507
This is exactly thing is why I prefer BG1. I remember basic sinhle monster summons just kicking ass, than you play BG2 DLC and you use that wand that summons 9 strong monsters just to by an extra 2 seconds of time against a boss. Just total over the top.

>>717224589
chaotic commands lasts 1 turn per level, 1 minute per level

>>717224414
Fucking kek

>>717224589
You just need chaotic commands and haste to clear every single mind flayer encounter with zero problems. That's a grand total of two buffs to clear the entire area and those are some of the hardest areas in the game. In Owlcat games, you're casting 20+ buffs by that point in the game during every goddamn map unless you're playing on normal and below.

>>717224640
let's see then

WotR is the more polished game, with a better campaign, and less annoying companions.

>>717224794
1 turn a level is kind of useless for anything but a room.

>>717224989
>one minute per level is useless
Just how slow are you nigga

>>717224794
Look, it's been a while since I played so I'll take your word for this, but I distinctly remember recasting it a bunch. Maybe I was just retarded and resting a bunch. Or maybe my encounters lasted more than a few turns.

>>717224694
I feel like this is essentially what I did. I don't remember having a particularly hard time in the super specific-enemy heavy areas. The beholder next place was also fairly ok once you've cast your buffs.

>>717224989
There are like 4 rooms with mindflayers in them per stronghold. Two buffs for an entire map and you're rewarded with amazing loot. In Kingmaker, there are so many areas with some kind of insane encounter requiring a million buffs and you're rewarded with 100 gold, a +1 weapon, and some mushrooms. It's terrible encounter design with exploration that rarely pays off.

>>717224850
No? Why should I share personal commissions I paid for myself and requested the artist to not share them? Or why I should spoonfed you art you can find yourself if you learned to navigate Russian sites?

>>717225192
>commissioned 4000+ images
right

>>717225121
Incredibly becuase im always looking for those 1 shot traps. So glad CRPGs didnt carry baldurs legacy forward on that.
I still wake up screaming thinking Im in Durlags tower.

>>717212356
They're not the same.
Kingmaker is a fully realized world and actually feels like you're interacting with the setting and have some effect on things. It has some mediocre optional companions but they're otherwise fine.
WOTR has a paper-thin setting where you get some high-power power fantasy options none of which has as much weight as just taking over after the Stag Lord does in KM.
It has a few decent areas, like the Abyss, which are heavily marred by all the extremely terrible companion quests there like the one about whining at the demon lord and the terrible roguelike dlc. The only good parts I could name are a few side-areas, areelu's voice actor and when you take Drezen and pick your path. Most of the companions 1 or 2 excepted are actually atrociously bad.

>>717225246
There are a few animations too, including an Arueshalae POV of the animation made by Darker Gray, that one is my favorite.
You are just seething now because I refuse to let you see my treasure stash.

>>717225189
Everyone bitches about the buffs and yea, there's no defense. Its even wilder they expect you to use a mod than program anything themselves. I didnt know that my first two runs, kept wondering whynI found the game so hard everyone else said it was easy.
Worst was spending 5 min buffing to discover it was a puzzle location.

>>717225431
>WOTR has a paper-thin setting where you get some high-power power fantasy options none of which has as much weight as just taking over after the Stag Lord does in KM.
>retaking a city that's been overtaken by demons for 7 decades doesn't have as much weight as fighting off some bandits
I get it, you're a KMfag and you're mad that WotR is so much more popular, but do you really have to say retarded shit like this?

>>717223689
you can turn it off

I like Kingmaker, WOTR, and every single Baldur's Gate. yes, all of them. CRPGs are great.

>>717225601
>Worst was spending 5 min buffing to discover it was a puzzle location.
Nothing makes me rage harder in these games than that bullshit. I'm trying to play through Kingmaker again and after finishing Varnhold's Lot, I'm about to drop this trash. I didn't play that DLC back when it first released. It straight up takes your rogue and wizard away from you after locking you in a dungeon. If you didn't have anyone else that has arcana: world or trickery, you're just fucked. Good design. So much better than BG2. Amazing game and developer.

>>717225875
>arcana: world
I meant Knowledge (Arcana) lol. I'm a bit buzzed right now.

Fuaaarkk this game has so many fucking options what the fuck is this shit. I just want to make a cool mage why does every class have 20 different options when you click on it do I really need to spend 2 hours reading through this shit and making a proper build to play this? CRPGfags what the fuck is this

>>717225875
I just played that! It's actually not that bad except for the endless spider room. They don't fuck you with traps and its just lots of blobs.
Your pretty much at the end.
Except for the endless spider room... I just ran away.

Too bad Owlcat won't make another Pathfinder game and we're stuck with Warhammer 40k games with no roguelike mode

>>717201474 (OP)
Nobody mentioned Rogue Trader.
You guys are tourists.

>>717226105
It's so boring and tedious. Every room is just mimics and slimes and adamantine damage reduction so all of your fighters take forever to kill shit. Its "mixed" reviews are well earned.

>>717226275
Yea, I was disappointed. Only cool thing was the werewolves.
WotR second DLC was much better. First one with all the environment triggers was meh.

>>717227135
The first half of varnhold's lot was cool. I don't like the final dungeon. Taking your wizard and rogue from you with no prior warning that it was going to happen is complete bullshit. I don't like to complain about "game design" because I'm not a game dev, but that's just stupid. You shouldn't be required to google spoilers about the game just to get through it. Now I can't even identify items. Thankfully I still have someone with trickery so I can disarm traps and open chests.

>>717225716
>fighting off some demons
And it feels like nothing because it's a paper-thin setting.
Same as you feel nothing when clearing out Blackwater. It's just another thing.

Chance the next 40k game has a roguelike mode so I can fulfill my build autism without boring story in the way?

>>717223901
Stop dipping and just be a lvl 20 demonslayer chad

>>717228449
I like Studied Target

>>717206691
>not using AI to make better portraits for the companions

Pic related,

>>717228956
Not sure what happened w/ the upload of Seelah's portrait.

>>717201474 (OP)
>flawless
>the game with army that management mechanic

>>717225170
You only need to cast chaotic commands and haste 1 or twice per mindflayer stronghold. I just ran in there with Korgan, used his berserk, and cleared the entire place out. You can also just summon skeleton warriors since they're immune to psionics and haste them. None of the mindflayers stand a chance against them. For the beholders, I just wore the shield of balduran and they killed themselves with their own beams. Owlcat prebuffing during every single map and having all those buffs vanish as soon as you move two inches on the world map is demoralizing and makes the entire thing feel like a dreadful slog. People claiming these games are better than BG2 remind me of Diablo 4 fans that prefer it over Diablo 2 or comic book fans arguing that ant man is superior to batman or some shit.

>>717206331
>woke tranny propaganda is fine if it's portrayed in a way that i like
you can't make this shit up

>>717219040
Nah tactician is way easier than WOTR on core

does Charge get bonus damage from the spears/polearm group, or specifically Longspears?

>>717230210
Old duke nukem also made fun of bitches, by your demented logic it must've been wholesome feminist propaganda, retard.

>>717231376
>furiously copes
why even reply anon

>>717205929
Solasta's encounter design is good. I only disliked the story in that game but it wasn't a big deal since I just treated the entire thing like an Icewind Dale tier dungeon crawl. Once I stopped taking the story seriously, I actually found the badness funny and it added to my enjoyment of the game.

>>717209068
Wasteland 3 is good. You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

>>717201474 (OP)
Give me moar games with KINO moments of rejecting godlike powers!
I've already played D:OS 2 and Throne of Bhaal.

I liked kingdom building