I'm gonna fart and puke
>BRAAAAAAAP
>BLAAAAAARGH
Oh look, I just made another 2dhd game!

did some third worlder develop a new grudge after the last nintendo direct

>>717288460
Yeah, after 90% of people finally realized HD2D looks like horrible dogshit

>>717288460
To be fair it looks like shit

>>717288148 (OP)
why do devs do this
why do gamers fall for it

it looks hideous

>>717288460
Looks like it. I'd say it's a snoy but its more likely some square enix schizo drama

>>717288148 (OP)
can they not just make a good normal pixel 2d game

>>717288460
like many things here it's probably one autistic schizo who has made his special interest seething about it

>>717288460
>>717288460
It's multiplatform

if you can't enjoy slop then I pity you

>>717288148 (OP)
that's simply too many niggas

>>717288148 (OP)
>>717289907
Anyone that plays octopath for a couple of seconds knows whats happening

>>717288148 (OP)
>3D on 2D
kino
>2D on 3D
disgusting lazy garbage

>>717289706
so is monster hunter but that has never stopped anyone

>>717290005
>>2D on 3D
>disgusting lazy garbage
but breath of fire 4 is like the best looking PSX JRPG

>>717288148 (OP)
these look quite easy to make. like, easier than a real 2d ganme, and easier than a real 3d game. it's like it's trying to be maximally easy to produce

it looks pretty bad but at least they're trying to make games in a reasonable amount of time. everything else seems to take 10 years

>>717290217
It looks cheaply made and ugly like Ragnarok online or Grandia

>>717290265
yep, that's the actual point. its a budget sprite based graphics system that can be sold to a board of directors because it has HD in the name. we've suffered through 30 years of ugly 3Dshit because normalfags and investors are retarded, and now that someone is trying to revive sprite based games you get retards REEEEing over a little bloom.

>>717290713
why can't I just disable the bloom without fucking with some .ini?

>>717290876
Elliots demo settings show options to disable post processing. It's just disabled in the demo.

>>717290876
oh no you have to edit an ini. it's the end of the world!

>>717288148 (OP)
Imagine if the lightning and the UI were pixel art too. Even if it's not pixel perfect, don't tell me there is not any materials ou there hat can allow for a simili-pixel art lightning. I used to be on some RPG Maker forum back in the days and the autist here would literally HUMILIATE you if you had the audacity to mix 16x16 sprites with HD effects.
Even if it's a basic HD remaster like the FF they HAVE to put a modern UI with a HD font it's beyond my comprehension.

>>717291389
>the autist here would literally HUMILIATE you
Humiliate you how?

>>717289706
sonyfags still think unicorn overlord is a switch exclusive

Don't give a fuck octopath 1 and 2 are great and the adventures of Elliot looks promising

>>717290005
>3D on 2D
Examples?

>>717292024
this. octopath, star ocean remake, and triangle strategy are all kino. total contrarian cocksucker death

Thoughts on this?

>>717288460
The people who shit on 2d-hd will be the first one to consume them when chrono trigger or a final fantasy game get the same treatment

>>717291734
it was back in 2008 + they were too autistic too do anything weird they would just trash talk your stuff in a very cold way

>>717292364
seems pretty good outside of the stupid name.

>>717292364
why does rodger hand carry the sword instead of fixing it to a belt harness?

>>717292364
It's a good take on the 2D Zelda format with gameplay that mixes up the format. It does have a major caveat though. Square enix implemented a gacha system for magicite skills, which adds a level of tedium that didn't need to be there. The currency for the gacha is generous in the gacha and you can mitigate it in the demo with hard saves but things could change in the release version

>>717293326
>Square enix implemented a gacha system for magicite skills, which adds a level of tedium that didn't need to be there. The currency for the gacha is generous in the gacha and you can mitigate it in the demo with hard saves but things could change in the release version
be sure to tell them that here

https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8393249/AoE-Demo-Survery-2025

>>717293439
Thanks anon. I heard they were doing a post game survey but couldn't find it

>>717292805
Always be ready.

>>717292495
Incorrect. If they dare to attempt Chrono Trigger looking like this then SE goes under the next year.
Nobody is buying this shit and CT flopping would be the death knell.

>>717288148 (OP)
Whats really funny is that Square Enix 2d-hd games that look like poop probably have a bigger budget than expedition 33.

>>717289227
there was nothing wrong with how [2] looked

>>717293570
lol, they already did a much more important game in this style (DQ3) and it didn't bankrupt them, so its hilarious you think a game like Chrono Trigger would just because the west thinks its a big deal.

>>717293717
He's right though, when people think Chrono Trigger remake, they probably imagine it looking like DQ11. Live A Live's remake didn't get much fanfare precisely because it just looked like the SNES game but the sprites plastered onto HD 3D environments.

>>717293662
it probably doesn't. HD-2D games are cheap.

>>717293717
>Japan has dogshit taste and worships DQ like a sacred cow
Yes, we know this already.

>>717293897
>when people think Chrono Trigger remake, they probably imagine it looking like DQ11

>>717293708
what's with the downgrade

>>717294020
What's wrong with that? It's Toriyama's style in HD 3D and the closest approximation for what a 3D remake of CT would look like.

>>717293708
Yeah, that's the point. 2 looked amazing. Why's 0 look so bad?

>>717294112
the anime cutscenes in the PS1 version already look bad, i'd hate to see the whole game based on that. Toriyama's art was the least important part of Chrono Trigger.

>>717294003
>>717293717
>DQ3
>Chrono Trigger
ahh an old fashioned mid-off

>>717292364
Ugly seiken densetsu

This style isn't going to go away since the games keep selling, and they must be cheap enough to make a profit from since they're still making more. We're on like the 3rd Octopath game, and then there's two other HD2D games coming out. Chrono Trigger's 100% getting this treatment.

What engine does SE use for these games anyway?

>>717292208
every arcsys fighting game since xrd

>>717291898
the lower resolution version of the game is switch exclusive yeah

>>717294420
unreal

How many 2D HD games are there so far? How many of them are from team asobi?

>>717292364
Looks like a zelda clone if it had more action. Kinda like an old Ys game. I'll definitely play it.

>>717292364
Looks good, will it be on steam?

>>717293897
It really wasn't going to get much anyway. It was niche snes game.
Just look at Romancing Saga 2 remake, full 3D overhauled a lot of things and still didn't get much fanfare. Hell, Emerald Beyond far more discussion (outside of Sagafags) simply because of how weird and unhinged it looked.

>>717288148 (OP)
square needs to die already

>>717295237
to be fair basically no one in the west gives a shit about Saga

>>717295423
Good, the moment they start pandering to the west is the moment a franchise dies.

>>717295020
>How many 2D HD games are there so far?
gotta be like a dozen now
>How many of them are from team asobi?
exactly 0. Team Asobi are the astro bot devs. Team Asano are the HD-2D guys.

>>717288719
go outside you smelly retard
lmao

looks great
going to get it
another great game that /v/ will brown over

>>717295020
>Octopath 1, 2 and 0
>Traingle Strategy
>Live a Live
>Dragon Quest 1,2 and 3 HD
>Elliot
And that's about it, yes all of them by team asano.
Seriously. It's fine to not like the aesthetic but come on there are better things to obsess over.

>>717295423
Much like anything from Square Enix that isn't Final Shartasy

luv traveling 8 paths
luv strategizing triangles
gonna luv adventuring with elliot
luv HD2D, simple as

but where's all the 3Dx2D

>>717288148 (OP)
if the skill effects are so flashy they make it so I can't see what's going on then I simply won't play

>>717288460
2D on 3D background looks horrible
adding those special effects doesn't help its cause

>>717295770
what is the triangle in triangle strategy tho?

>>717292208
Resident evil 1 to 3
also Resident evil 1 Remake and 0

>>717288148 (OP)
>>717288719
>>717289227

I think this is the most disgusting "artstyle" I've ever seen.

Zoomers have absolutely no fucking taste, and I think this is proof of it. I don't think I've ever hated an artstyle more, it's so indescribably bad.

>>717296091
the three nations.

>>717292364
>we can't stop using FF6 character designs for some reasons: the game
fuck this artstyle. i want bravely back

>>717296091
The three main nations of the game.

i liked triangle strategy
that elliot looks like classic snes fun. i hope the fairy isnt evil since its made by the bd team if im not mistaken

>>717296075
The special effects and filters are just... insulting. The cynicism behind it. "Oh new players will only play 2D games if we slap some shiny over the top effects and post-processing on it!"
God the fucking bloom, it's ridiculous

>>717296228
>he thinks zoomers are the ones buying these games

>>717296265
>>717296337
>everything is 3
>scales of conviction only has 2 scales
this fucking sucks

>>717296416
damn, its like you have to make a choice or something.

>>717288148 (OP)
why cant they just make it like the DS games, that was my favorite artstyle

>>717296416
You can choose to be neutral during the decisions so there's technically 3 choices

>>717296412
I mean, I assume that's the marketing reason why they're slapping brown and bloom over a pixel aesthetic isn't it?

>>717296595
bravely already looks great for a more modern version of that artstyle

>>717292364
I'll pre-order on steam

>>717296827
yeah they should just do that for the next 50 years. I would play Ellliots epic legend if it looked like that

>>717295235
should be

>>717292364
day one

>>717288148 (OP)
>>717288460
How do people unironically think 2dhd looks good? It genuinely looks like shit

>>717288148 (OP)
I think dragon quest 3 on switch looks good. Does this cound as hd2d, or is it just really pretty sprites?

>>717297309
maybe the cartoony art just translates better

>>717296827
its amazing how much better this looks than Bravely Default 2.

>>717296686
>brown and bloom
Are you forgetting the amount of millennial era games like COD4 and Fallout 3 that had a fuckton of brown and yellow colors?

>>717296827
if only this game had better music

>>717294116
>>717293708
0 is pretty much a remake of the gacha. The gacha used a lot of assets from 1.

>>717297309
yes, it counts. It was literally made by the team who did the HD-2D games, and was announced as Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Remake.

>>717297631
the first game's OST was amazing though.
bravely second had the bad one

>>717296827
No THIS is more modern

>>717297758
so that's what the HD remaster is going to look like, huh?

>>717297631
come on man
https://youtu.be/ZDrp0k-11lM?list=RDZDrp0k-11lM&t=4469

>>717297758
just looks like a flashback of the first image. also you're about 20 years too late if that's your idea of modern. nowadays you replace that bloom with ray tracing that doesn't change the image at all but uses up 1000x more GPU resources.

did we rike this?

>>717292579
It's probably mid like the other games, but most probably enjoyable, my guess is that it will be more fun than octopath and triangle since it has action combat instead of turn based combat.

>>717298160
>mid
>since it has action combat instead of turn based combat.
holy shit kys faggot zoomer

I'm fine with HD-2D, I just don't like that they treat them as premium. They never go on sale for $20 or less, which is a bit bizarre. A lot of Square games that are newer and use modern grafix go cheaper on sale. How is Octopath historical low sale price close to VII Remake's?

They want $60 for DQ 1-2? Come on son.

>>717297863
Didn't they recently release a remaster on the switch 2, when is that shit getting ported to pc.

>>717297719
i got sick of the one dungeon theme. it felt like there was only 1/3 of an ost

>>717297994
it was good

>>717297214
It had its novelty when it was just like 1 series, and probably would had been cool if it wasn't done by someone as big as Square. Now that it's like 3 different series they just all look the same.

>>717296595
That's a controversial opinion, people used to hate this more than HD-2D. I used to hate this art style too, then I emulated 3 PSP and was surprised at how much better it looks in motion and actually playing it in person.

I just started playing Bravely Default, but it feels REALLY grindy. Should I just drop it?

The fucking "experts" say to use nothing but freelancer until job level 10 so I can get JP up abilities, but the freelancers are fucking awful, and I can't imagine trying to "experiment" with various jobs and shit when it takes a dozen hours to level up these jobs

>>717299026
playing like that in BD1 is a terrible idea, you get more JP later in the game iirc, so its better to make a team that works early on instead of rushing the bonus JP abilities early. BD2 fucked that up because of how JP work in that, so you can max out jobs in the first area. But in the first (and only good) game, you're better off just playing naturally until you get pretty far in.

>>717288148 (OP)
Octopath won
HD2D won
Tressa won
Final Fantasy lost
Dunkey lost
(You) lost

>>717299770
best girl

DQ HD2D was lazy as fuuuuck, the initial trailers showed some pretty decent pixel art but then the final product looks like an Unreal asset flip with sprites thrown in. I'm baffled that I don't see this complaint more often, the DQ remakes look like shit.>>717299183

>>717298465
They are still full-ass games with tons of content that can be played 100+ hours.

I was legit mad at these "games" being the main announcement, i mean, i dont mind them existing, i just dont care for them at all. But hell, Even Fifa 26 or Hello Kitty would have been better main announcements than HD2Dslop...

>>717298465
I waited for a sale personally but the Octopath games have a ton of content. On a dollar per hour played system it's quite good

>>717299026
Depending on how far you're in you can just cheese the game's main bosses with an infinite dragoon jump setup so at least you could finish the story if you're around that far in.

>>717300441
Maybe you won't accept this but Octopath is an established series with a fandom. Definitely good enough as the headliner for a partner direct at least.