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Anonymous No.717330516 >>717330587 >>717330635 >>717330950 >>717331346 >>717331357 >>717331930 >>717331993 >>717332108 >>717332203 >>717332216 >>717332998 >>717333946 >>717335624 >>717339365 >>717342389 >>717342929
Is REmake the best remake in the world?
Anonymous No.717330587
>>717330516 (OP)
Yes.
Anonymous No.717330635 >>717330652 >>717333205 >>717343314
>>717330516 (OP)
Yes and it's still worse than the original.
Anonymous No.717330652 >>717338139
>>717330635
But it has better gamefeel.
Anonymous No.717330704
Ninja Warriors Once again mog
Anonymous No.717330834 >>717330952 >>717331035 >>717337754 >>717339157
Iโ€™m really not sure why REmake is so beloved, while nearly every other remake is hated. Itโ€™s the exact same shit, butchering of a classicโ€™s artistic legacy because fancy graphics attached to recognisable IP will sell copies.

REmake is the Demonโ€™s Souls ps5 of the early 2000โ€™s. Itโ€™s a fine game. But itโ€™s not really an improvement over original, and whilst obviously looking way fancier, the original artistry is sacrificed.
Anonymous No.717330950 >>717331349
>>717330516 (OP)
RE1 wasn't good
And I mean that genuinely.
People in the 90s just liked it because of the early game aesthetics. Actually beating the game was an absolute slog (bad controls, badly telegraphed puzzles, and slow action). You most definitely had better PS1 titles to take up your time.
Anonymous No.717330952
>>717330834
Nah, REmake is just strictly an improvement in every way.
Anonymous No.717330954 >>717332036 >>717332743 >>717333204 >>717339276
Soulless Soul

RE1 is the only horror game that used color to be scary.
Anonymous No.717331035
>>717330834
because people played it when they were kids and mikami being attached gave it legitimacy (despite the things people like about re1 not coming from him)
Anonymous No.717331056 >>717331171 >>717331345 >>717331392 >>717334184 >>717334797
As someone who played REmake first and then RE1 I really don't get what people think is better about it than the remake
I've never actually seen anyone say why it's better either beyond preferring the art style
Anonymous No.717331171 >>717331376
>>717331056
I didn't think the original was better until I did multiple playthroughs of each, it's much more fun to replay and I like the Director's Cut Advanced mode more than the modes in the remake.
Anonymous No.717331283
The hunters are really hard in the original but definitely more lax in the remake
Anonymous No.717331345
>>717331056
i think everything with lisa is a poor addition.
Anonymous No.717331346
>>717330516 (OP)
If you like story and world being downgraded, yes. Everything added to this remake that wasn't in the original is fucking trash
Anonymous No.717331349 >>717338236
>>717330950
Absolutely this. RE1 was kind of ugly. The difference between that and RE2 was massive even though they were both on the same system. The whole thing was clunky and awkward despite having really cool atmosphere.
I'm positive the people here who badmouth REmake didn't play the original when it came out or are just retconning reality. REmake was and is the best way to play RE1. It's awesome.
I could totally go back and.play through all.of RE2 and 3 on PS1 right now but i couldn't do it for 1. It's just not nearly as good.
Anonymous No.717331357
>>717330516 (OP)
It's the golden standard, yes
Anonymous No.717331376 >>717331429 >>717331443
>>717331171
>Director's Cut
It's the one with the "improved" soundtrack by the scammer dude?
Anonymous No.717331392
>>717331056
Everything relating to Lisa and George Trevor is fucking awful
The new areas of the house are about 70% dogshit
Anonymous No.717331429 >>717331619
>>717331376
>LE HECKIN REDDIT FACTOID *TRUMPET SOUND*
No you fucking dipshit, that's the Dual Shock edition
Anonymous No.717331443 >>717331619
>>717331376
No, it's the Director's Cut Dualshock version that has the trash soundtrack. The first Director's Cut has the original soundtrack.
Anonymous No.717331519 >>717331667
RE1 > REmake
RE2 < RE2 remake
Anonymous No.717331619 >>717337351
>>717331429
It was just a question, what are you sperging about you schizo?

>>717331443
Ah that's the one, thanks.
Anonymous No.717331667 >>717332123 >>717338349
>>717331519
re2 remake is like 2 minutes long with everything cut out thoughever
Anonymous No.717331692
they fucked up the mansion aesthetics, looks like it was abandoned for years when people still lived in it days prior to the events of the game
Original > Remake
Anonymous No.717331930
>>717330516 (OP)
>DUDE
>GREY
>LMAO
Anonymous No.717331993
>>717330516 (OP)
No. Completly different art style. The old game looked like a real mansion with something creepy. Now the whole mansion is creepy and dark.
Anonymous No.717332036
>>717330954
>RE1 is the only horror game that used color to be scary.
Parasite Eve 2 is colorful too. Even has daylight parts.
Anonymous No.717332108
>>717330516 (OP)
Nope, System Shock (2023) is the best remake, and it's not even close.
Anonymous No.717332123
>>717331667
Played the original for the first time a few months ago and I don't know how to describe it but just the whole feel and atmosphere of the game was so much better than the remake
Anonymous No.717332203
>>717330516 (OP)
Yes
I don't get the autists that hate on any and all remakes though. The original game does not get overwritten or anything
Anonymous No.717332216
>>717330516 (OP)
Absolutely.
Anonymous No.717332275 >>717332859
tank controls?
*flicks broccoli hair*
damn thats crazy bro
*flicks through youtube shorts every 2 seconds*
fr no cap ong
*asks siri what tank controls are*
Anonymous No.717332743
>>717330954
>RE1 is the only horror game that used color to be scary.
lol? I guess its also the only horror game that used bad music to be scary. Get real my nigger
https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4
Anonymous No.717332859
>>717332275
Do they talk like this in those roblox and gacha threads?
Anonymous No.717332998 >>717333196 >>717333946 >>717339012
>>717330516 (OP)
For me its DS.
>New puzzles.
>Knife doesn't take space and its on the shoulder button.
>180 degree turn.
>Undoes shit like one way doors which were annoying.
>New enemy distribution like zombies with crows or dogs, etc.
>Map displayed at all times (Though I have the entire layout memorized).
>Can pinch Jill's ass.
Kino af.
Anonymous No.717333196 >>717333946
>>717332998
Also
>Can reload weapons from the press of a button.
Anonymous No.717333204
>>717330954
They were only colorful because you can hardly visualize shit with low poly graphics and shitty TV at the time.
Original devs weren't auteurs going for artistic expression of experimental colorful horror, are you fucking retarded?
They only did it so you can comprehend what the fuck is going on with the limited shit we had back then.
Anonymous No.717333205
>>717330635

spbp
Anonymous No.717333946
>>717330516 (OP)
Yes. It's the one that started the remake fever.
Sadly, it was also the last one of its type. Now we only get lazy UE slop, made to mimic TLOU, by some total newfag devs, for the modern ADHD zoomer audiences.

>>717332998
>>717333196
REDS is an enhanced port, not a remake.
Anonymous No.717334184
>>717331056
My go to example is the simple act of getting the Sword Key. in REmake, you go to the west wing, find an arrow, check it to turn it into a peridot, return to the main hall and enter the graveyard, use the peridot to get the book, then check the book and spin it around to get the Sword Key. In OG you fight through the west wing and pick up the fucking Sword Key. I'm not really even against how REmake does this process because it makes sense for police officers to use some detective skills in this situation, I just hate how it so pointlessly overcomplictes something that was originally fun to just pick up and play.
Anonymous No.717334797 >>717335468
>>717331056
>As someone who played REmake first and then RE1 I really don't get what people think is better about it than the remake
Oldfag here.

The REmake was designed as the "NG++" for the old time RE fans. It is designed to surprise and challenge experienced players, all while demonstrating the striking improvement in visual tech.

I dig the REmake a ton, but it has a number of sheer downgrades that make it less replayable IMO.
This includes everything from the base gameplay feeling more floaty and clunky (characters kinda float as if in slo-mo, bullet hits have next to no impact on enemies until they drop...), to the very early game being super linear and restrictive compared to the 1996 OG, which allows you to explore most of W. and E. sides 1st and 2nd floors right off the bat.
The cuts extend to late game as well, with a huge number of alternative scenes and ways of meeting certain main characters being simply removed. The ending itself is also diminished to a couple A/B choices during the game.
I also honestly believe REmake is a bit too easy, with the game providing too many Ink Ribbons + the emergency weapons allowing you to avoid a lot of damage altogether.

But once again, I must stress that I adore REmake, and it is the type of re-make everyone has asked for rest of the RE games (and literally any other "retro" classic) since 2002. It's just easier to do 1:1 comparisons with the OG game since both are now easily available and ultimately so close to each other on a surface level (gameplay, story, progression method).
Anonymous No.717335468 >>717335675
>>717334797
What about the crimson men
Anonymous No.717335624 >>717335675
>>717330516 (OP)
I'd say Black Mesa is the best remake I've played. It even shits the bed with Xen at the end, just like the original.
That said, even the best remake can't replace the original. At best I'd say remakes are a cool way of seeing your favourite games with nicer graphics or a reimagining. At worst, you get kids who never played the original claiming the remake is better because MUH GRAFFIX
Anonymous No.717335675 >>717335795 >>717338514
>>717335468
Crimson Heads?
Generally a great addition, that adds tension and an extra layer of fear-inducing strategic thinking to the gameplay.
The fact that the DEmake 2 skipped said feature (they were planning to introduce proper Licker evolutions) was one of its many missed opportunities.

>>717335624
Black Mesa is utter shit, that ruins EVERYTHING good about the OG.
And Xen was always great. BMS dropped the ball on that thing.
Anonymous No.717335795 >>717336253
>>717335675
>Black Mesa is utter shit, that ruins EVERYTHING good about the OG.
I understand it utterly fucked the HECU Marines because they're aimbots who run around like headless chickens now, but what else didn't you like about BM?
Anonymous No.717336041
Everything looks the same: the game
Anonymous No.717336113
Any remake before 2015 will be pretty good.
Anonymous No.717336253 >>717336305 >>717336417 >>717342794
>>717335795
>but what else didn't you like about BM?
Just about everything.

The art design is muddy and excessively dark.
Everything has that weird orange mist, which you'll be seeing through your flashlight's narrow beam of light most of the time, all while traversing through over-cluttered, weirdly shrunken environments, that don't follow Valve's set rules of guiding the player through clear world design + smart use of lights and color. There's often way too many fake doors, fake vents, and other trash mudding the world.

Every single character model is beyond amateurishly bad. Every human NPC has HUGE Orangutan arms and massive heads, and it seems like no one but me even notices this shit.
The aliens all look way more flat, with the final boss being essentially like a massive baby with some Blender shit thrown on top.

The gameplay is a clear step down from the fast and tactile feel of HL1.
You move slow, you NEED to crouch-jump on everything, and you waste extra time doing the same physics and electric cord "puzzles" the HL2 episodes introduced, over and over again.

Many iconic areas were simply cut, such as most of On-A-Rail (the only NON linear section in the game) and Surface Tension. The mod didn't even ship with a Hazard Course originally.
And then there's Xen, which became the devs' excuse to SELL their mod, and took them nearly 10 years to finish. Only to expand it to take 10 times longer, filled with those Portal 2 jump pads + forementioned cord puzzling, all while now have this generic, calming blue and "lol what if ayylmao planet is, like, our undersea coral beds, but without water?? :D" looks - rather than the truly eldrich nightmare landscapes the OG had.

The gunplay is simply worse, with worse animations and SFX, worse damage effects, and enemies that simply soak up hits until they die (lack of "pain" treshold and animations). The in-fighting is also practically gone, and like you said - HECU are absolutely broken aimbotters.
Anonymous No.717336305 >>717337820 >>717342794
>>717336253
>Every human NPC has HUGE Orangutan arms and massive heads
pic related.
Anonymous No.717336417
>>717336253
Oh, yeah. The On A Rail cut annoyed the shit out of me, as did butchering Nihilanth's design. You cut On A Rail down to about 25% it's length and then EXTENDED INTERLOPER? Jesus.
Anonymous No.717336707 >>717337168 >>717338808
I finished the RE3 remake recently and what the FUCK went wrong? It felt like it was made by the Tomb Raider reboot team.
Anonymous No.717337168
>>717336707
more than other games horror needs to be cool, the scenarios you encounter need to be compelling, if the game was a movie it needs to vaguely be something you would consider watching. re3remake felt like a sci-fi original movie, if it wasn't a videogame I would have switched it off after 5 minutes.
Anonymous No.717337351
>>717331619
>It was just a question, what are you sperging about you schizo?
You're talking to an OGRE autist. You have your answer already.
Anonymous No.717337754
>>717330834
I'd say it's two things
A) The time when it came out. Not only is it long before cash grab remakes, but also from a time when it wasn't uncommon to remake a game when porting to new platforms, so it's not as immediately held to scrutiny
B) Resident Evil in general is just a bizarre pit where all human perception goes to die, be churned up, and spat back out as the most random bullshit. Good lord, the fact that people still think ANY of the classic RE games were hard or heavily limited your supplies is just baffling, and it results in hilarious shit like RE2make zombies taking like, 20 hits in order to pander to that viewpoint, even though they would've died to only 5 or so in the original.
Anonymous No.717337820
>>717336305
Left arms are too short and right arms are just barely too long. Both suck
Anonymous No.717338139
>>717330652
Thats the one thing it doesnโ€™t have. Remake plays like shit, they made you far more stiff, and crimson heads are just a pain in the ass
Anonymous No.717338236
>>717331349
Re2 is just a lot faster and has more action segments to it. Far less key items to juggle, item box placements are closer to point of interests so its easy to swap things guaranteed 8-10 item slots
Anonymous No.717338349
>>717331667
Re2make is on average longer than the original? And i think speed run trannies finish bith around the same time. They removed 2 small shitty areas and extended the rpd by like 1/3rd to compensate. They moved some of the streets part to the midgame
Its pretty much all their in some form
Anonymous No.717338514 >>717344645
>>717335675
Theirs no way people think crimson heads are a good introduction. It just makes every zombie kill, something the game was against already take longer with more inventory juggling.
Nigga you fags have zero taste
Anonymous No.717338546
I like OG RE1, its a genuinely good game and everyone gets filtered because everyone started with RE4 and the shitty soulless remakes.
Anonymous No.717338808
>>717336707
They didnโ€™t want to remake re3, and wanted to move straight to 4 but you might as well since you can reuse so much stuff from re2 and those brand new assets you just made.
I think they massively changed the ending simply so they could reuse lab assests from re2 instead of having to make new park/clocktower assests.
It not having merc mode is the biggest indicator they didnโ€™t give a fuck. Its the defining minigames of the series introduced in this game, but nah too much effort
Anonymous No.717339012
>>717332998
>Not Game Boy Color
lmao zoomer
Anonymous No.717339157 >>717339345
>>717330834
you nostalgiatards are delusional
Anonymous No.717339276
>>717330954
You're posting the black crush REmaster version like everybody does every single time this gets posted. There's even a mod for PC that fixes it.
Anonymous No.717339345 >>717339595 >>717341823
>>717339157
Anon most of these people only ever played the remake or the remake was their first version. Its some weird mentality of having to pretend the oldest version is by default the best.
I mean i also prefer og re1 but thats because remake plays like shit plain and simple i really donโ€™t like how nerfed your movement feels in remake you canโ€™t evade nearly as well as the original also crimson heads is bad design that adds nothing but an extra 3 minutes of walking back to change items to burn it then walk back to rechange. Not some strange having to pretend the original ugly bright because the devs were bad at art environments fit the spooky mood better because lol no?
Anonymous No.717339365
>>717330516 (OP)
It's pretty good
Anonymous No.717339595
>>717339345
Also re1 is such a simple one note game that i have my filly pretty soon into a palythough and want it over. Og finishes up pretty soon after when i hit this point, remake has like 40% more content to sift though
Re2make > og re2 tho 100% and that's just objectively
Anonymous No.717341823
>>717339345
Whenever I think about replaying REmake, I remember the crimson heads and the. Play something else instead.
Anonymous No.717342253
REmake is great but the og is superior. The atmosphere, colors and aesthetic of the mansion shit all over DEmake.
Anonymous No.717342389 >>717343247
>>717330516 (OP)
No, it's just a different game. The burning corpse mechanic just makes it harder for no reason, and new locations are just bad
Anonymous No.717342794 >>717344645
>>717336253
>>717336305
post more pls
love comparisons like this
Anonymous No.717342929
>>717330516 (OP)
It's the only one.
Anonymous No.717343247
>>717342389
More tedious
Anonymous No.717343314
>>717330635
This.
Anonymous No.717343670
I liked the first one more when it still was uncool to think so. Fuck you
Anonymous No.717344645
>>717338514
>Theirs no way people think crimson heads are a good introduction.
1. Learn English, pajeet.
2. Every single RE fan loved Crimson Heads.

Believe it or not, that "inventory juggling" is a crucial part of RE experience, and something people LOVE.

>>717342794