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>>717333357 (OP)
I like both

>>717333621
fify

>>717333621
>>717333357 (OP)
so how come gamers and game designers/producers shit on the left while praising and romanticizing the right?

>>717333468
Same. Console war fags trying to drive a wedge between Gothicfags and Morrowindfags.

>>717333730
Because the right one is easier and cheaper to make.
It's better to make the right one and psyop normies thinking it's good, than it is to make the left one

>>717333730
Low IQ retards think it's always better when you can literally run into any direction.
The game producers do it because it's technically more demanding, or at least used to be, so it's a marketing point just like a higher resolution is.

>>717333621
Elden Ring is actually like this

>>717333621
Elden Ring's open world is filtering me mang. I tried following the Grace beams but it sent me straight to Maggy or whatever and showed me that I'm underlevelled. Do I just run around randomly and kill everything until I die?

>>717333803
it being harder to execute and more costly are literally the main downsides. that's why so many open world games are overambitious projects that have to cut so many planned features and end up emptier than originally visioned

>>717334010
Walk around and explore the map while trying to remember which locations you've visited and which you have not, if you see something that you want to check out on the map mark it so you see where it is while playing.
There is no reason to rush Margot at the start.
You have a lot of things to explore before doing Stormveil Castle. However, I suggest beating Margot once you have a +3 weapon so you can access a smith who can upgrade your weapons further.
I recommend focussing on dodging in his second phase until he starts using his weaker moves again.

>>717333726
based

>>717333970
small correction

>>717333621
elden ring filtered me because i didn't see the big arrow on the map and decided to go to the right into the red land instead of left to the forest which made me overpowered when i did get back on track and ruined the whole experience for me

>>717333357 (OP)
mark + recall

>>717334621
>>717334010
>boss that takes literally 4 hits to kill and is only marginally harder than the average hollow to beat
>boss that you deal almost no damage to who has constant spam attacks for days
This has been my elden lean experience.
For this reason the bosses in the other games always felt way more fun for me. In elden ring you actually have to make so much effort to be the right level or whatever to make the fight not too easy or too hard to be enjoyable.
Feels like a chore.
The benefits of the open world are really overshadowed by all the shittiness it brings. Not worth it.

>>717333357 (OP)
Increased mobility is closely tied to the progression in Morrowind. The more you play the faster you become.

>>717335218
I can immediately tell its a man, even without clicking on the image.

>>717333803
Exactly this. The “freedom” in the right kind of design is mostly smoke and mirrors. You slap down some generic cliffs, throw in a couple ruins, add a checklist of copy-pasted objectives and suddenly you’ve crafted a “massive open-world sandbox.” Meanwhile, actually designing a tightly paced experience like the left one takes effort, direction, and intent-things most devs can’t afford or don’t want to risk anymore. It's not even about artistry anymore, it’s about maximizing engagement metrics and keeping whales chasing the next dopamine breadcrumb.

>>717333357 (OP)
I don't know why. They're different games with different structure.

>>717337907
>The “freedom” in the right kind of design is mostly smoke and mirrors.
yes but that's still what some people want. even if it's an illusion. there's merit in just having the freedom to walk around in a realized land mass. immersion factor is just important to some people at the expense of everything else.

>>717338035
The first Dark Souls has way more freedom than Elden Cockring, you zoomie

>>717333468
This, they both have their own merits

>>717333726
>Dark Souls
>Also Dark Souls (Demon Ruins & Lost Izalith)

what games?

>>717335142
i had the same issue with enemy difficulty inconsistency
i accepted the irrationality of it and overleveled my character to make the remainder of the game as easy as possible
i'd rather have a predictably easy game because i overleveled my character, over having an inconsistent experience because i tried to play "honorably" and immerse myself in the experience

>>717334427
Erase more.

>>717333357 (OP)
GOATHIC

>>717333357 (OP)
>left: OOT
>right: BotW

>>717333468
I don't see why anyone wouldn't

>>717333357 (OP)

>>717333468
Always wanted to get into Gothic but the controls filtered me. Wonder how it feels now that they've included gamepad controls in the PC version.

>>717333357 (OP)
>>717333621
>>717333970
>>717334427

I enjoy playing all of these

>>717333357 (OP)
*gothic 3 enters the chat*