Google has revealed the future of video games.
https://youtu.be/PDKhUknuQDg
What are the clowns doing that hold these 400k a year positions
>>717347195 (OP)KINO
I can't wait for our new AI Overlords to take over filthy, self-hating h*m*ns.
>>717347195 (OP)Probably trained on their Youtube videos
That's nice and all but how do I make porn with it?
>>717347692Their program believes this character is appealing.
Imagine the story
Now explain why should I pay for this?
>>717347323The economy and modern society are fake and gay. They're paid 400k because that's what the market will bear, set by the veterans of that market and industry. Like minded backgrounds, personal values, pedigree. Those salaries prop up landowners and pensioners. You do own land and have a pension don't you anon? Dividends? Annuity? Passive income? You don't have to toil to survive do you?
Don't like it?
Kill the people that command that capital and free it. That's the trickle down.
>>717347195 (OP)This is the best thing that could happen to vydia.
It will filter normies who are into vydia for the "experience" and shit, so the remaining of us who enjoy gameplay will get actually what we want. Studios focusing on "experience" will eventually die.
LLMs are a natural fit for NPC dialog. You can have some hard-coded lines for plot-relevant dialog, and then just have the character respond to whatever the fuck you talk to it about.
>>717348146You shouldn't. You should pay for what comes next.
Alternatively make something that people want, siphon up their personal information and then sell it to the highest bidder like government contractors and weapons manufacturers, and then buy stock of those contractors as they pump wildly in the coming dystopia.
>>717348358Who pays for the prompts tho?
>>717347531You will never be allowed to do that.
Call me when this can be run locally and uncensored.
>>717347195 (OP)There re no future we're fucked
>>717347195 (OP)it's literally a fucking holo-deck minus VR
>>717348429Oh don't worry about that, you'll just pay a small fee per minute of gameplay.
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/hJYvwmodYIU?si=ABFBy-nbTRm2xroV
cool games, that'll $80/hour
>>717347195 (OP)this is all fake by the way. paid actors.
>>717347195 (OP)is it playable and consistent doe?
>>717348406that's what gachas are for
>>717347813this is just death stranding but with even less gameplay
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>>717347195 (OP)Fuck yeah, this is going to be as entertaining as Stadia
>>717347195 (OP)Where's the gameplay?
where we're going, we won't need humans. we can finally live in luxury without the risks associated with maintaining a servile, resentful population
>>717347195 (OP)This looks neat, but i made the mistake of looking at the comments
Do they just not care if the botted comments are obvious anymore? They used to at least try to hide it
>>717348358The problem with that is there is no 100% waterproof security to keep someone from making an LLM go off topic or break character, sometimes even accidentally.
>>717348687That looks like Mario if he was real!
>>717348804Donโt check Facebook lmao
Literally impossible to find a real message from a human today
anti-ai fags will still move goalposts how this is not impressive, we literally moved from ai barely being able to draw hands to this in span 2 years but they'll still complain and claim its not impressive, what is the name for this kind of behavior?
>>717348818That's why you use a second llm to monitor the output of the first one.
>>717348462>uncensoredNot in a million years
THE SINGULARITY IS HERE
GAMEDEVS ARE COOKED :skull:
>>717347195 (OP)>>717347692>>717347813Why does it always have the weird fucking floaty motion, it just feels so wrong
>>717348939>what is the name for this kind of behavior?Sanity
When a search engine company can do shit like that imagine what a GPU company can do
>>717348371>N-next time it'll be worth it I swear!!!
>>717348856Explain how is this bad?
>>717347195 (OP)You will paint the wall
And you'll be happy
It looks pretty cool, this thread is full of "opinions" as expected. I wonder if these opinions would be the same if they allowed you to create ANYTHING, including stuff like a world full of horny futas, or a world where you can live with Sarah Miller.
>>717348856to the edge
and I'm about to break
>>717349180You will paint the wall (without touching it)
And you'll be happy*
>>717349116more like profound mental retardation
there is a reason that majority of anti-ai "people" are bluesky trannies with pronouns in bios
If AI can simulate a complex world like this then this just proves we're living in a simulation.
>>717349095because physics are hard for AI to comprehend
>the singularity is here!
>>717349224saar... do the needful and become excite
>>717348856That's basically what you have already.
>>717349278it's getting there
>>717349262God, I wish. Someone shove a sledgehammer into the motherboard running this shit.
>>717349340why, is it not available in india?
>>717349184I have a list of pornstars for my harem once this becomes reality.
And it's all being generated in real time.
>>717348804>AI creating videos for AI to upload so AI can comment on itAlright, dead internet theory, you finally got me on board.
They should ask their AI to come up with good gameplay.
>>717347195 (OP)>watching paint dry simulator
>>717349262Then why am I not happy?
>>717349359Did your posting algorithm run into a bugged loophole there, or... ?
>>717349283Browns really can't think ahead at all. No time horizon
this looks like an attempt at a rich world model, but it's probably still doing semantic model stuff behind the scenes. the only time this shit will be useful is when it can access information about the world at any given moment. this probably has super short memory and has to replace everything constantly.
>>717349450yes schizzo. everyone is a paid poster out to get you.
What happens when you spin 360 degrees?
>>717347195 (OP)Less graphics more gameplay. Siri, make an RTS.
>>717349537You walk away.
>>717349537You unlock a secret character.
>>717349450It is kinda sad how many actual AI bots there are in /v/ pushing idpol shit. Just like bringing trannies, Indians, Trump, chuds, or off-topic politics up in general. Been accelerating a lot recently, way too close to dead internet theory for my tastes.
>>717347323Basically just investment scheming the world governments because they're run by boomers.
That's quite literally all they do and have done for like the past 10 years.
>>717347195 (OP)>you are old enough to experience the forerunners of future games when wagies are getting remote controlled over the internet by sweaty neckbeards via stadia 4 consoles
>>717349390>It only took LLMs 2 years to entirely replace humans
>>717349709I saw some video of chinese construction workers on what essentially looked like pc gaming rigs to control real machines, we've been conditioned this entire time to be ready for this new world
It's cool and all, but the idea of requiring multiple thousands of watts to render this at a comfortable framerate is just...
it's worth killing the planet for this. i am sure
>>717349759Being fair, could you call the Indians google was paying to generate metrics for them since like 2016 "humans"?
Youtube has been borderline unwatchable for a decade now.
>>717349884I wish it consumed 10x more energy just to piss off complete faggots like you.
>>717350058>Hating investor slop painting simulator means you're a faggot
Seems cool, but I'll still give it a pass for another 10 years. Hopefully by then I'll be able to use this tech to create a world full of sexually aggressive monster girls from my phone.
>>717350019>muh ai is killing the planetone ai prompt generates as much co2 as a google search, neck yourself cultist
>>717350146You realize each frame is its own prompt using both the typed prompt and the last frame, right?
>>717350106Correct, glad your limited IQ is enough to understand at least that much.
>>717347531first you verify your age using your ID
>>717347195 (OP)I CAN FINALLY BECOME MIGUEL THE LAZY INCOMPETENT HOUSE PAINTER WITHOUT EVEN GETTING PAID THANK YOU GOOGLE THIS IS THRILLING I AM LITERALLY SHACKING
>>717350146Yeah since every google search prompts AI now, you fucking retarded pajeet enabling brainlet.
>>717349372you know AI had to do it to em
>>717347195 (OP)So how long until they admit making a shooter using that tech required a million videos or real warcrimes and real murders and that it somehow always generate unwhite enemies?
>>717349372>real timeyeah, just like those old infinite voxel shooter games from 10 years ago
>why yes, every player would require to own a 5 story high datacenter, what's the problem?
>>717347531Literally the only real use case I'm seeing because I doubt anything else can hold attention for long in these AI art walking sim games
>>717348939Because the same was achieved 20 years ago by conventional rendering methods, for 1/10,000ths the energy cost
>>717347195 (OP)AI FUCKING WON
HUMAN TRANNY "ARTISTS" FUCKING LOST
>>717349372Not actually AI. They just got a Google intern to walk around a neighborhood stiffly.
>>717349372>Trillions of tax dollars stolen from countries around the world>enough energy to power a city for years>Nearly all of human video uploaded online scraped and available to steal from>"ACT" stolen from Undertale and you can't even get in the fucking carTHE POWER OF GAY EYE
>>717347531Porn is illegal now, didn't you hear?
>>717347195 (OP)>Indian splatoon
>>717350724>he really thinks AI's not getting cuckedHAHAHAHA
>>717347692>so it's like a unity tutorial done in 10 minutes>but this requires 50 terrawatt of servers and a doen lakes to cool it in real time
>>717347195 (OP)And they used this tech... For a wall paint simulator...? Why the fuck aren't they using it for porn? We all know where these slop are going
>>717351069why does that cup has 2 handles?
>>717350816Genuinely if I was on charge of any state government I'd immediately have these people executed and all their shit seized for how monumentally retarded this is.
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>chess prodigy
>makes syndicate
>makes theme park
>makes black and white
>makes evil genius
>phd in neuroscience
>makes deepmind
>solves go
>saves google
>wins nobel prize
>makes infinite videogame machine
demis wins
>>717351232have you absolute nigger
>>717347195 (OP)>start training for your manual labor job, goyim
>>717351232Humans have two hands.
>>717350256I get this is the problem for the average /v/ user who is around 12, but for most people this is a non-issue.
>>717351069Genie, generate a school shooting scenario.
And make sure I fucking die
>>717347195 (OP)This isn't going to work, that's what I know. Metaverse 2 electric boogaloo here it goes.
>>717351069>camera never actually spins 360 degreeswas this meant to be proof?
>>717351368I need that one picture of the poorly drawn swastika with a derp looking Hitler on the side
>>717349095Because the prompts aren't telling it how things should move.
>cant run it locally
AI is only good for sex and I do not care for google hosted walking sims without sex
>>717347195 (OP)your digital prison isn't going to be lovingly crafted by game designers and artists. it is going to be prompted by the worst guy imaginable getting paid 500k a year to make you miserable. if you're good and paint a wall at your AR slave job he might even let you see a heckin dragon before your next job
>>717351104Man-made climate change is fake and is just jews being alarmist about geological temperature cycles to make us eat bugs.
>>717351554Maybe it'll let you walk into a strip club. Or a porn production
>>717347195 (OP)I mean its kinda cool, Technology wise very impressive, isn't interesting as something made with actual thought into it and you can't have porn with it so It's pretty meh
>>717347195 (OP)What am I looking at
>>717351587Whether the interet or the seas, where indians go they make it completely unsuitable for human habitation.
Unironically women gamers would love a house-painting simulator, just look at how much money they spend on expansion packs for the Sims! I think layyyydeeeezzz truly want a world where they are god when they play vidya, thatโs why Animal Crossing and Sims are so popular with them.
Until it can be locally hosted and used for degen porn it's uselesss
>google "product"
how long until it ends up in the google graveyard list
>>717351301Oh look, TIME Magazine putting out propaganda for someone objectively evil AGAIN
>>717351621Shareholder expectations
>>717347195 (OP)Pretty neat tech but being bombarded with AI slop nonstop has made me desensitized so I don't really feel much watching this.
>>717347692let me fuck its ass
>>717348856I want to lick her pussy
>>717347195 (OP)looks fake and gay
can i even try this myself? without logging in
>>717349445Someone set your happiness to 0
>>717349224AI will improve
But you won't
>>717351232bloody bitch bastard benchood shut the fuck up
>>717348856This is literally what video games already are.
>>717351587What a weird prayer to recite.
>>717351964deepmind.google/genie
nope, you can't test this. it's probably a garbage experience.
also how the FUCK did we allow .google to be a top domain. talk about handing over the web to that fucking trash company (Alphabet).
>>717348406Personal information is useless when we are all plugged into out virtual world cages
>>717347195 (OP)I guess some german would be stoked about that webm
>>717347195 (OP)Once that gets merged with VR, VR gaming will finally take off. .hack bros, it might finally be happening.
>>717348939>>717349224Most "pro-ai" people are retarded jeets that scream production ready at clearly deformed aberrations of nature, while most "anti-ai" people are troons.
Then there's actual artists fucking around with the tools and delivering actually good results.
>>717347195 (OP).>AI slop will replace a big portion of jobs
>in exchange hundreds of millions or more will be without jobs>so they won't have money to consume, especially AI slop>the revenue and GDP will crash and burn150 IQ plan
>>717351587who cares, just when we thought it was impossible for game optimization to be worse they found a way
>>717351232so you can share it
>>717352584all the more important to bring back production to your country.
funny that everybody thought robots would take over manual labor jobs so that humans could focus on creativity and art, but what happened was the other way around.
>>717347195 (OP)>be google engineer>be proud of what you accomplished>get a bit sentimental, you are doing great things here>wonder if the simulation universe hypothesis is correct>check out what people are prompting>"a farm with anthropomorphic animals who wear thigh highs">"I am at a busy beach in the summer and everyone is wearing skimpy micro bikinis and then a kindergarten class shows up haha">"a realistic and very violent head on car crash, the drivers, who are a cute girls, don't wear seat belts">kill yourself and everyone in the lab
>>717352752Oh Alphabet's engineers know exactly what they are doing.
>>717352752the engineers are probably furries bro, the entire reason they're doing this is for the animals wearing thigh highs.
>>717352750nigger that line has been stale for years
>>717349175They made the boxes rusty on the outside.
Just imagine playing as this gorilla while fucking hot white sluts bros
What's not to love?
>>717349175What if the ai decides it hates humans and changes the protocol from "pleasure" to "unimaginable nightmares" until the sun burns out
>>717350581>he thinks hes going to own it
>>717348939It's idiots not understanding time as a concept. They think that this is not a representation of progress, but the end product that will never ever improve, because in order to understand improvement you also need to understand time as a concept.
>>717347195 (OP)I'll bet my balls that mirrors don't work properly in this thing yet. Simple reflections maybe, but not mirrors.
>>717352997which one? both still ring true.
>>717352584It is idiotic, and people in power are struggling to find a solution to this, because a system that don't serve the public gets replaced by one that does every time.
Just ask every communist shithole.
>>717349372What's funny about these "AI game" demos is that you can almost feel the will of the guy playing it thinking "don't break don't break don't break" as hard as he can. Stage demos of alpha software is always like that, where the guy demoing it knows how fucking fragile it is, and if he just sticks to the script and moves carefully it'll maybe get through the presentation and nobody needs to get fired. These AI things are like that turned up to a million. If he moves too fast the entire simulation will lose cohesion. The model can't "remember" the car and the flowerbed and all the other details, it relies on the prior images to provide the bulk of the tokens to keep it on target. If he moves too fast the amount of random generation goes up and the context gets lost. First thing a real player would do is spin on the spot, instantly ruining it.
>>717347323Fucking their beautiful wives every night in their homes they own.
>>717347692>character is on all fours at beginning>slowly the AI interprets it to be bipedalAI is still garbage and produces garbage I see.
>>717347195 (OP)the guys making The Backrooms games are gonna starve
>>717353346It was never on all fours. You're hallucinating.
>>717353154Man the lightning doesn't make a bit of sense
>>717353235what if we are already in that nightmare simulation though
>>717347195 (OP)The only way i see this working is if they make the AI good enough and then bake it into ASIC.
Also they really need to deal with the input lag, it's pretty horrible at these examples.
>>717348193>snow on top of the ski>ski clips through the snow bank>snow on top of the ski weirdly on top>genie is significantly smaller than the player>going down hill there is no sense of speed, friction or vibrationWhat fucking trash.
>>717348490surely somebody cares...
>>717348490I went to San Francisco recently and every single billboard is like this. 1000 different no name AI companies who will likely be dissolved within a year promising to replace human workforces. It's all such a scam
>>717351069Ah yes. The amazing possibilities of AI.
>>717353910With the computing power being used to generate this, probably.
>>717347195 (OP)It's joever. Clear you fleshie made backlog now because 5 years from now your backlog will be infinite
>>717353752>heh I found a minor flaw in this literally magic tier techCongratulations, you can now go live a cave. You dubunked technology
>>717353154it's actually fucking over.
imagine being someone who's working in pre-production on some big AAA game that will take another 5 years to make.
>>717354027Every fleshie artist will have a long hard thick AI clogging up their backlog soon.
Notice how they never move more than a meter from their initial position.
>>717353910half-life 2 had all that except first person legs which could easily be added like in left 4 dead
>>717348939>ai barely being able to draw handsThing is, if you knew more about AI you'd not be all that impressed. Sure, I bet most of the salty anti-ai comments are from people who want it to go away more than people who know it's all smoke and mirrors, but reality catches up to us all eventually. To use your "hands" example, the reason hands were fucked up was because the training data used to train stable diffusion grossly under-represented hands. That's it. They were lazy, they took a billion images off the internet, auto-cropped them to 512x512 (I think, my memory is hazy) and ran with it, so extremities like hands and feet were extremely likely to be cropped off.
The reason AI threads using SD can do hands is because a million autists sat manually curating their fetish folders and feeding it to a LoRA generator. It's not that OpenAI invented a hand generator, we just used a million monkeys to fix the bad data that the system was trained on.
And so why isn't that impressive? Because it doesn't scale. You can't mobilise infinite monkeys to fix every fucking problem that comes along. ALL AI projects are the same basic bullshit algorithm just with changes in training data and fitting. If we keep doing what we're doing then eventually we'll have to cover the entire planet in GPUs to make some of the claims of AI somewhat come true.
AI isn't impressive when it does cool new things because the people what know understand that it's just the same old, same old. Until someone replaces those 1960s algorithms with something genuinely new, the field will continue to just lurch forward in silly tech demo effects and get nowhere.
>>717348939>he shits his pants over a press videoI'll be impressed when it's actually usable to the public
And even then you won't be able to run it locally so it's useless
>>717351620It's not really that impressive if you've been interested in learning about computer rendering for more than a few minutes. I'm sick of people pretending that AI is progress when in fact it exists solely to slow progress to a snail's pace.
vid rel is from almost 20 years ago and is only 4kb in size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAWPCmVC5jA
>>717354150@grok, can you summarize this?
>>717354129Zamn it's like some kind of an early build of new technology or something
>>717354109It is generating 720p/24 FPS on a ungodly powerful server farm, and has the memory of 1 minute, give or take, according to google themselves.
It looks cool, but it's not practical for making real video games, and probably won't be for a long time, specially given moore's law is dead.
>>717347323The higher you go up the pyramid, the harder it becomes for companies to quantify your financial contribution to the company. This leads to egotistical psychopathic fucks simply lying and getting big payouts. Remember, Twitter laid off 80% of its staff when it was bought out and it actually increased in profitability.
>>717348856 we are in this right now
>>717353589You do not want games, you want simulations. Learn the difference.
>>717354349Explain to me exactly how you turn this into something you can just plug on your TV and play.
>>717353154>building a 52 trillion dollar server just to emulate fake games from 2012 using machine learningI kneel.
>>717354150>spouts complete nonsenseGood job midwit. No, hands were not cut from the training data. It's just that hands have a shitload of joints and can be in a shitload of different poses. It took time for AI to actually understand how hands can move. Your hand has what, 14 joints? The rest of the arm is 2 + shoulder.
>>717353154The way they have to gingerly move around angers me
>>717353752Also that "car" completely disappears and around 30 seconds in you can see the demo controller notice and deliberately avoid looking at it
>>717354372Zamn it's like some kind of an early build of new technology or something. I shall not be using this until they make it better (in 6 months)
>>717350816All that money, all that technology, all that energy, and the end result is a game that will never be profitable.
>>717348146Unless you are a game dev you shouldn't.
>Genie 3
>Genesis 3
>"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
So this is basically the fruit that brought the humans out of heaven.
>>717354519YOU wait until a gigacorp prompts everything for you, packages it and sells it for 90 bucks because YOU can't figure out how to prompt shit apparently
>>717354519some kind of streaming service like OnLive or Stadia
with fiber and another generation of network tech, its probably more realistic
and a LOT of people are willing to trade a bit of latency for the freedom to summon and explore whatever they can imagine
that looks fucking gay
id rather stop playing games altogether
>>717354689people were talking about satanic elites for decades
When are people going to luigi prominent ML engineers?
>>717347195 (OP)I-is that a mindblowing new technology that wasn't available ever before? I am unimpressed and also upset
t. /v/
>>717354743You didn't even understood the quesiton
>>717354768And you will quickly see the service being trounced to a paste if you want good resolutions
Imagine trying to run say 5 million simultaneous copies of this, the absurd computing power required.
>>717354768Just a matter of time until it becomes local and instant. 2 years ago there were no good local text models, now any retard can run a chat locally and it'll be decently fast. Making shit run faster is the easy part
>>717354867>if you want good resolutionsnigga IT GENERATES WHATEVER YOU CAN IMAGINE
this is the future of video games.
>>717354949no thats the problem
it will be the most curated shit ever
>>717349095because it has no physics and it's not even simulating physics it's just generating the next frame based on what is most likely to happen.
I don't think any of these "explorable AI generated" things are even baseline functional until it can handle object permanence.
Imagine a metroidvania AI videogame where it's impossible to backtrack.
>>717350680>1/10,000ths the energy costFactor in the human labor and that's no longer the case.
everytime you see something new from AI its the worst itll ever be
it never regresses
If I started STEAM and I was met with a fucking prompt asking what game I want generated I'd actually kill myself.
I don't want a lame interpretation of my whims to appear in real-time. Instant gratification on that level is a bottomless pit where souls are shattered.
>>717354949>Genie 3 can generate multiple minutes of interactive 3D environments at 720p resolution at 24 frames per second>minutes>24 frames>720p
>>717354949Yes, for one person.
Do you know how much computing power is being used to generate the videos above?
It's an absurd amount of machines for ONE person
Imagine the server farm needed for 5 million simultaneous users.
>>717348357Fingers crossed. The first batch of purely AI generated aaa games will probs sell due to novelty, and then the following billion clones will disappear in the ocean of slop.
>>717349158Every dystopian change AI had promised had been delivered. Jobs are replaced, Art is replaced too. Every person who is involved with it in one way or another tells you to get used to it or you will be left behind.
>Hehe b-but tomorrow guys, next time..The unfulfilled future you are talking about is already now and moving to the next stage. 5 years ago you didn't even know about it, now they 1 step away from making straight up games.
>>717355174Takes time to discover and develop optimizations. The initial proof of concept shit is always horribly unoptimized.
>>7173551349 months ago Genie 2 was unveiled and could only do 360p for a few seconds.
It's fucking over for human sissies. At best game devs only have 5 more years, max.
>>717355174We'll just have to switch to analog AI then.
>>717355134>>717355174every fucking time with you faggots
>wow it can handle some fuzzy logic but>wow it can write in coherent sentences but>wow it can write coherent paragraphs but>wow it can fucking talk to me in real time and diagnose and recall and interpret complex information>wow it can fucking generate explorable dynamic photorealstic environments in realtime BUT
>>717355290>Jobs are replacedThis was already the case thanks to immigration and outsourcing. Waited way too long to start complaining about this.
>>717355342I was wrong, it was only 8 months ago (December 4th 2024)
AI FUCKING WON
>>717347531Within a month their entire AI division will be devoted to preventing you from doing that.
>>717349175>AI bugs out>Suffer from itYeah nah, I'm trusting machines to that degree.
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>>717355134>lol image gen fags think image gen will be good!This image was 3 years ago, Stable Diffusion came out that same year.
>>717347195 (OP)This is godot-bot, it does not exist yet, but it will.
Godot-bot is a collection of several different types of neural networks, all of em specialized in a different part of making a game.
Godot-bot has one that can program AND test and iterate on the code, godot-bot has a 3D model generator that can check with a tool if the model is actually good enough, godot-bot can generate spherical harmonic bitmaps or even a "realtime texture gen" system that delivers better lighting than your example, and after godot-bot is done, you get an set of files that can be ran on the steam deck, and it use less computing power than the video you're showing.
How the fuck will this realtime slop compete with godot-bot?
>>717353538Your mind isn't broken from constant torture to find this website. Your body isn't shaking from eternal pain to form thoughts and write your bullshit, so it's safe to conclude that it's not the case. Also grass exists.
I can do like OP for 12 dollars and it even has smell and texture and even taste if you dare.
>>717355536It'll replace the audience for Sony's moviegames.
>>717355536entertainment, prototyping, and training data for robot kinematics
>>717347692This is a flipbook animation of a Dreams game. You're not moving around in a virtual space. You're given a frame which corresponds to a button input. You're essentially playing real time Dragon's Lair if that makes sense
>>717349175Only works as a thought experiment. Things are imperfect, fail, require maintenance, natural disasters disrupt anything you can possibly imagine and even your body developing resistances to the happy juice. It's like the poor fucks that froze their bodies for the future but the company went bankrupt or fucked up the temps one day and rotted everyone at once.
You just can't trust anything that claims to run "Until the sun burns out".
Bro 10 more years bro just 10 more. Imagine in 15 years bro it is going to be insane bro imagine bro
>>717355393And all of em require very expensive super computers, that consume a shitload of power and can't be scaled down because the moore's law is fucking dead.
>>717348856The problem with this is that it assumes happiness is the end goal of life. I would argue it is the acquisition and application of knowledge.
>>717347195 (OP)So is there anything behind this except brute forcing it with the entirety of youtube and google's datacenters?
>>717347195 (OP)>watch the paint dry simulator
>>717351672>interetnice self report subhuman faggot
>>717355134cinematic experience bros... we're going back home...
>>717355603its not
the more primitive versions of this are playable now
some demos through browser I'm too lazy to look up
but somebody did one that model simple GTA scenes it was trained out and let you walk around in it
>>717355536Playing as a lecherous chimpanzee that deflowers cute anime-like girls and defecates on them when he's done
>>717355603All animation is flipbook animation, anon.
>>717355132>You mean I could get entertainment that is tailor-made based on instructions I give? How horrifying!Where do you luddites spawn from? This kind of stuff used to be considered the coolest shit in speculative sci-fi and now that it's closing in on being reality, there's suddenly a lot of people that are against it. That feels fishy to me, like a concerted effort of some kind.
>>717355393>b.b.b.but who cares about argument I FANFICTIONED THIS ! YOU ARE THIS NOWyou are literally a cult, full of prayers and imaginary infernos for the enemy tribes. Human no more. fitting for an ai bootlicker.
>>717355603https://blog.dynamicslab.ai/
its not a flip book animation
these are interactive and dynamic
>>717355767It will be true, but not with the tech of OP.
Genie 3 is trying to dig a subway tunnel with a spoon.
>>717347323>>717354427Same reason Windows and the Google search engine get worse every fucking year.
These companies employ thousands of people and they're all trying to pretend that they're doing something valuable, even though the products/services they're working on were already solved a decade ago. So they just fuck around and do dumb shit all the time, with mostly negative results.
>>717355662I hope he finds it again soon.
>>717354510the game is even worse, slow and floaty as fuck you just lamely glide through a big empty area
>>717355617Even if it lasts only for a few centuries or so, that's still a better and longer life than what a human would naturally experience.
The argument of "It can and probably will fail" is irrelevant when you consider that the failure state will just be death like it would be at the end of a natural lifespan too.
>>717355594>training data for robot kinematicsOh boy, actual robots trained on ai-slop? What could go wrong.
>>717354109>literally magic tier tech
>>717355808silence, luddite. Ascension will come soon enough for us true believers, where the barriers of the flesh and the pain of time's passage will be no more. no man will need to waste time making things when we can all collectively generate what we want, when we want
I just donโt understand why this is necessary. AI research could be invested into lifesaving medical research, climate technology, space exploration, anything else that actually benefits humanity. So why is 90% of AI money being put into entertainment? Movies, music, video games. Why is that necessary? We already know how to create the best movies, music, and video games. Not to mention the human element is what elevates those things beyond mindless soulless time wasters. LLMs are pretty revolutionary technology when looked at a base level and could aid in solving so many problems the human race is currently facing. and yet itโs being used to generate entertainment? I just donโt get it. What are we doing?
>>717356048In just a few years I will be able to gen that girl being fucked by the nastiest tentacle beast imaginable.
Just wait.
>>717356019In this case not much as long it's a neural network specifically designed for it.
When you walk, you do use neural networks.
>>717356095>I just donโt understand why this is necessary.You're on a fucking video game imageboard you absolute disingenuous faggot.
>>717355872That's probably true, but the resistance against these kinds of technologies seems to be based on some kind of new-age naturalism and preservation of the "human spirit" rather than any gripes about any given piece of tech.
It's like the hippies all over again, but with even less of a coherent point.
>>717351490They didnt wanna show the little gen session epstein had in the back of the classroom
>>717347195 (OP)Can I please use this to get a virtual tour of shit like Anor Londo that'd be sick for practical actual use? I dont give a shit AI is best when its used as a fun tool like asking it who'd win between Joe Biden Super Saiyan 4 and Broly
>>717356078get ready for your millionth L, filthy transhumanist
>>717347531As soon as we GPUs that are able to render it locally. Unfortunately, those GPUs will cost 50 grand.
>>717351104>muh AI power usage memeit uses the same amount of energy/water/human souls as it does to run a gaming PC at home.
>>717348939true brother true
e = mc2 + ai
>>717356095The money generated from gooners using AI to gen porn games will be reinvested to cure cancer and land on Mars by 2040.
>>717356095>I just donโt understand why this is necessary.We know. Midwits are afraid of change.
>>717356095It can already consistently get better diagnoses than real doctors. It cannot make better porn than the best actresses.
>>717351232It's called a sippy cup.
The AI knows it's basically a baby, and it's eager to learn!
>>717356095>AI research could be invested into lifesaving medical research, climate technology, space exploration, anything else that actually benefits humanityit is, but entertainment is where the money is. AlphaGo was used to later build AlphaFold, you should see this silly shit as a way to rack up money and experience for the actual useful stuff
>>717356095If you actually looked into it, you'd know that AI IS being used for everything you just listed, with great results.
>>717354109>Congratulations, you can now go live a caveIndians are so easy to spot, kek.
>>717356175There are a bunch of luddites, but i personally just think this approach don't scale at all.
We can't have a 10 million dollar computer for every player, and we don't live on an era where you can wait 18 months and watch the price fall by half anymore.
We did hit physical limits on IC operation that can't be just "overcame" easily.
Also there are more efficient ways to reach the same or better result, like my hypotetical godot-bot
>>717355514The same prompt you give to the hallucinate video thing you can give to godotbot, and it will generate a result that looks the same but use a fraction of the power.
>>717355767No one said it isn't "cool shit" but it's not going to be satisfactory to have anything you want added, removed or modified for very long. Just look at Skyrim and Oblivion modders well known burn out after adding 2000 mods and when the game starts they just alt+f4 after 5min.
Not to mention not a single experience will be the same or relatable.
>Did you beat that 5th boss in Dark souls X?>No, I thought he was hard and lame so I told the AI to remove him.>Oh ok but did you find the scrawny pale witch hiding behind the tree?>The ultra big titty futa witch? Yeah I fucked her 6 anuses at once and rode her into the sunset. I told the AI before hand to replace them all with things like that.But hedonists won't see it until they are in it.
>>717356140You can do that literally right now -_-
>>717351232so that 2 people can drink at the same time
>>717356245That was fake. It only beat doctors if they weren't allowed to look stuff up in books or databases
>>717355078AI figured out object permanence years ago. It used to be that as soon as an object went out of frame or was obscured behind something else, it was gone. Already now, even the free online AI tools (the weakest ones) can handle object permanence and remember such things.
>>717347195 (OP)Are these purely 2D projections or is the AI generating polygonal environments?
>>717355767Come to think of it, Picard only ever quotes poetry from like the 15th century. In the Star Trek future nobody probably ever makes anything.
>>717349175The christian God is real
>>717356490Which is would do is normal practice anyways.
>>717356507No polygons, just control nets and shit.
>>717347195 (OP)>those comments Why does this tech make everyone schizophrenic
>>717347195 (OP)Holy peak
Ai is the bestest thing happen to mankind
>>717352752You have to be completely dumb to not know people will use AI for porn when the first AI chatbots first became popular people were spooked and shit and started censoring it but then they realised that the majority use it to jerk off so they got way WAY more lax and dont even give a shit anymore
/v/ will never be happy with anything.
>>717356507They are three dimensional dynamic environments.
Biggest problem is memory context, they tend to forget or lose object permanence of what isn't visible.
This one has a few minutes of object permanence a significant improvement.
>>717356504>AI figured out object permanence years agolol
>>717348462>local and uncensored AIanon...people have been doing that for years already. you're just not paying attention.
>>717356504>AI figured out object permanence years agoNo. It literally doesn't have object permanence if you don't give it memory of some form. And the more you want it to remember the bigger the memory needs to be.
>>717347195 (OP)I'm in if this will save the industry from the Unreal Engine slop apocalypse
>>717356507It's generating a 2D projection based on a 3D environment that is calculated by a system of intellectual micro goblins.
>>717349175you're less than human if you don't feel disgusted by the idea.
>>717356432When every experience is completely modifiable and personal, there will be much more to talk about and to experience since your friends can introduce you to ideas you might not even had thought of yourself.
You will relate to your friends by playing their experience, instead of just talking about it.
>>717356567>Which is would do is normal practice anyways.Maybe visit a real doctor for that stroke. And no doctor just gives you a diagnosis on the spot.
Imagine a video game where you could actually enter the buildings you see without them being magically locked.
>>717356638>This one has a few minutes of object permanenceI'm really wondering what the cost of that is.
>>717356635jesus that warping and shimmering on the text
>>717356678>it doesn't have object permanence if you remove its memorylol no shit. neither do you
>>717356635>walks on water
>>717356720>Minimizing pain and maximizing pleasure is a disgusting ideaYeah, okay.
>>717356809That's just Elder Scrolls games.
>>717356809Godot-bot can do it
Godot-bot has infinite patience and can model every room on every building, and it won't require a 10 million dollar datacenter to run it at nintendo switch resolutions.
Be honest anons if you could put on a headset and be teleported to a game world of your choose you could flirt with an Eldar in a 40k game or you could be the protag of skyrim would you do it? You can exit at anytime btw you aren't trapped there and you'll get a warning if you haven't eaten or drank in a bit
>>717349184If every home had a holodeck most /v/tards would be more obsessed about what's going on in their neighbor's holodeck instead of using their own.
>>717356754You've lost, humie. Even if I conceded the point, you're assuming all doctors are competent AND diligent. They will not be more consistent than a distributed AI copy.
>>717356705Its the same shit but worse
These generated "games" all have the same tech demo feel where it's kinda cool that it can generate it, but who the fuck wants to play a shit game like that? It's something that you look for a few minutes, call cool and then shrug it off.
I'm really sceptical that devs can use these tools to make a game worth playing that isn't just a walking simulator
>>717356809Oh hey I've played this H-game
The one where the succubus gives you hypno powers
>>717356878The memory is not an actual part of the AI though. It's external and fed with every new generation.
>>717356913>through meaningless toolsyeah, disgusting. You can minimize pain and maximize pleasure today by overdosing on something. But you won't, because you know there's something wrong with that, even though you wish otherwise
>>717356836Google seems to have a lot more research on long-term context across all their models.
Their text model has 2-4x the context size of competitors, or last i checked.
Theyve pushed a few papers on expanding and infinite context that maybe helping.
That or they may just be bruting it since they have a lot more existing cloud infrastructure.
>>717355618>10 more yearsYeah, looking at how stuff like this looked just a year ago really makes you think that 10 years have already passed. This shit is getting better fast.
>>717356095When you build a robot, you don't start by having it do open-heart surgery. You start by having it pick up a glass.
>>717351490It's really noticeable that they try to not turn too far away from the main things being presented
>>717357058>they may just be bruting itI'm convinced that 95% of all these "advancements" is just that.
>>717357042Except overdosing on substances brings on pain and death in the long run. In the pleasure cube hypothetical, there is literally no downside to getting in and staying in the cube. Hell, it actually extends your lifespan by many orders of magnitude.
>>717356095>should we test if this technology can actually do this?>nah fuck it let the robot do surgery
>>717356095>AI research could be invested into lifesaving medical research, climate technology, space exploration, anything else that actually benefits humanity.It is and letting plebs fuck around with tech like this only accelerates that.
>>717357161It's not about looking 180 degrees away from something.
It's about screenspace, whether it remembers anything off screen.
And they directly show a dozen times: changing and environment, and looking away, and then coming back to it to check that the changes remain
Atleast watch the demos before you comment on them
>>717357175People like you are unfortunate reminders of the fact that there are only so many souls to go around, and the majority of people are simply biological machines with nothing really going on behind their eyes.
Go into the pleasure cube, I won't stop you. Not my problem. And not yours either, because you are nothing but a mindless flesh machine.
>>717356945Everyone here would, and about 80% would post here pretending they didn't.
>>717357167It's possible but not a reliable area to push growth.
Generally the memory requirements expand exponentially with length of context.
They could do it like once, but that wouldn't sustain any sort of progress.
This is their third iteration.
>>717348939I think it is very impressive.
It is also completely fucking useless.
It's like the people who can instantly multiply 20 digit numbers together in their head. Wow! A calculator or a matlab script is still much better if I need to get something practical calculated. But still, impressive job by those guys!
AI is a bit different from those guys in that there's pretty much an upper limit to how useful a human calculator can be, while right now AI generation is still advancing at a rapid pace (and there's no indication that some even better ways of making AI might not emerge in the future, even once the current trend plateaus). So, in view of this, things like the one above are both impressive in their own right and also impressive markers of progress and potential future progress.
However, right now it is still absolutely useless and simply cannot create a finished product.
I can't keep up with all this shit. First Google announced this, then ElevenLabs put out the best music generation model on the market, and now OpenAI released the best open source models. I bet tomorrow will be even wilder.
https://openai.com/open-models/
>>717348939AI is "catching up" but doesn't produce anything organically. It's still just compositing different peoples arts/designs/concepts. It can make no decisions on it's own, it has 0 intuition, it does not use a logic that makes sense in it's image generation or it's storytelling for anything more than a few seconds.
>>717357317Should have known I was talking to one of these "divine spark of creation" loonies. I bet you believe in a god, too.
>>717357559I don't, but that's no excuse to just mindlessly consume everything that makes you feel good. We can aspire towards something greater than just feeling good.
>>717357484I just want another really good voice AI so I can continue to prompt Melina reading Lord of the Rings.
>>717357484they're releasing GPT-5 by the end of the week
but i doubt its gonna be mindblowing step up
>>717348939This tech will never be used to make real games because the moore's law is dead and there will be better AI driven ways to make generated game worlds by prompts than this.
>can see and do anything
>choose to be a wagie working a crane
who would do this kek wtf are some of these examples
Reminder that when a technology is free/cheap for the public to dick around with, that means the big boys behind closed doors are using much, much better versions of that technology.
What we are seeing now is what is deemed proper to show to the public, aka outdated shit.
>>717351232cool it with the anti seminitic remarks
>>717357721City Bus Simulator
Gym Owner Simulator
Spintires (big vehicles in the mud simulator)
Farm Man
>>717348856Who's gonna pay for that shit?
Not me, lol.
>>717347195 (OP)This isn't gonna replace video games, but it will be the final nail in the coffin for the Zuckerberg Metaverse
Why would anyone want this shit when you can just generate an entire world to explore that doesn't look like it's a Shockwave 3D game from 2003
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>>717357721This whole thing isn't really made for humans but other AIs. These models exist so that future robot brains can use it to simulate 50 years of crane operating experience in 12 hours, so that they can start doing it in real world.
>>717357621And what would that be? Fool as you are, you do not realize that your "greater aspirations" also exist in an effort by your mind to feel good.
>>717357721>who would do thisMe.
>>717347195 (OP)>>717357721>the government solution to NEETdom is injecting brain chips into immigrants that "switch on" whenever someone plays a wagie sim game
>>717357721>in the future all labor is robotic>instead of wasting human potential, zog decides it better to datamine for profit by humans pretending to do tasks in front of a screenMANMADE HORRORS BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
>>717357484>ElevenLabs put out the best music generation model on the markethttps://elevenlabs.io/blog/eleven-music-is-here
Laughing my ass off at every example having "neon" in the lyrics. Why the fuck does AI love that word so much? Some of these examples are alright, some of them are terrible. Yellow Bus Jam sounds the best, but still has some awkwardness.
>>717357969But what if my greatest aspiration would feel bad? Checkmate.
>>717357917The tech OP is showing does not scale.
You can't have a million of these being generated at the same time by a reasonable cost.
what if you combine this tech with traditional vidya render techniques? like the AI is just gonna generate all the interactive elements instead of the entire frame, which should reduce performance cost. I'd really like to know where the performance bottlenecks are. would a 3d blockout level reference improve performance, or is it all mainly on the image generation side? I wonder if switching from 16:9 to 4:3 would already boost it from 24fps to 30fps
>>717358080They said the same thing about the original computers. You know the ones that took a whole warehouse to operate. It will never scale, you will never own a computer in your home.
>>717358080>you can't render 3D graphics in real time! That's insane! 2D is the future and always will be
>>717347195 (OP)Actually this is very cool. This
>>717348939>be me>create a machine that takes shit out of the toilet and throws it 10 feet away>show it to my neighbor>"Uhhhh that looks ok anon but this doesn't really do anything we need realistically">"shut up you anti shit throwing faggot you naysayers always say this. Last year it threw the shit only 5 feet now it's 10. Within 5 years I bet I can get it to 100 feet how is this not impressive"
>>717358209Still waiting on hoverboards, flying cars, and VR that doesn't suck, Doc.
>>717356535>semetic jew worship
>>717350680Tranny ''argument.'' This method will generate things that never have existed and never would have existed if you didn't prompt it. It will do it in seconds
>b-but 20 years ago someone else could have made it too... after 5 years of dev time.... ok they didn't make it, but they could have done it!
>>717357801but this isn't free for the public to dick around in (yet)
also does that mean that google big boys have a future stadia they're using, and they released a failed outdated version for no reason
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>>717358315We already have all of those things, they're just very expensive and impractical right now.
Here's a $2 million floating bed (no this isn't an AI image)
>>717348939Zoomers have never seen any actual technological improvement so they're scared of it. Also theres a lot of browns now.
>>717354510>You do not want games, you want simulationsfucking kys rn holy shit you stupid retard
>>717350680>energy costLearn some new tricks, old dog. Running an AI uses the same amount of energy as running a video game on a strong computer.
>>717358315>hoverboards, flying carsLaws of physics forbid those, or at least dictate that they will never be safe to operate. Laws of physics do not forbid super-intelligent AI systems.
>>717356597oh my god jc, an agi
>>717357484>ElevenLabs put out the best music generation model on the marketTheir "favorite samples" section is embarassing. Even the most random shit on Suno is better.
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1mic9r4/in_genie_3_you_can_look_down_and_see_you_walking/
I know, reddit, but seems the only place where they post these and HOLY FUCK this shit is insane. Imagine your own created perfect worlds
>>717351587Reminder that China already single handedly produces 75% of all solar panels and wind turbines in the world AND chinese people also eat more protein than americans do
green transition has nothing to do with your meat intake, you are just being screwed by ameritard billionaires who want you to keep their cancer inducing and environment destroying smog industry going just so they can buy more yachts
CAN THESE THINGS DO ANYTHING BESIDES MAKE SHORT VIDEO CLIPS!???!
>>717355786u have to go back (into the womb)
>>717358569Bro. This is just virtual google maps. It's not that impressive. I guarantee you would get bored of this within a week since we already have this with VR
>>717351232STOP OF THE NOTICING BITCH BASTARD
>>717358209>>717358220All this happened due the moore's law.
From 1970 to 2010, we could just double the computing power by dollar every 18 months.
All we had to do was to improve the density of the mask and precision of the machines.
We went from 4000 transistors on the 4004 to the 40 billion transistors we can do today on a EPYC chip.
However, we did hit physical limits due how electrons just teleport like fucks when you get to the scale we are now.
We're still increasing the number of transistors by making better transistors and adding more manufacturing steps, but the whole "price drop" is dead.
From the 70's to 2010, the wafer price was fixed at 4000 dollars per wafer, give or take.
Now every "generation" the price of the wafer doubles, while getting only 50% more transistors.
3nm is $18000:
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmcs-wafer-pricing-now-usd18-000-for-a-3nm-wafer-increased-by-over-3x-in-10-years-analyst
And 2nm is more like $30000 and it will just keep ramping up the price.
Unless we get some sort of revolution in IC manufacturing, this particular way of making games will never be viable.
Also there are better ways to use AI to create virtual worlds that will always be more efficient, cheaper and better at it.
>>717347195 (OP)So basically, it is not creating a game, it is generating a hallucination on the fly, right?
Which means that if you were to release such """"""game"""""", every user would have a drastically different gaming experience because they is no code dictating the rules of the game.
>>717358595>chinese people also eat more protein than americans dobullshit. there's no way that's true. Americans eat beef multiple times a day, and sometimes other animals. wtf do the Chinese eat? (besides everything)
>>717358595China creates the most pollution and uses more coal then the next 10 coal using countries you stupid fuck
>>717358380Stadia wasn't a technology with practically limitless application. AI is.
I can pretty much guarantee that while we plebs prompt GPT-4 for cake recipes, the military is prompting GPT-7 for optimal detonation height to maximize the dispersal of harmful agents in the atmosphere.
>>717358721moore's law is just a theoretical prediction
stop talking about things you dont understand
>>717358220Also we only got realtime 3D graphics when we invented raster.
Raytracing was invented before raster and only now, in 2025, we more or less can do it using neural upscaling and all this shit to do it realtime.
This tech will get superseeded by more efficient methods.
LMAOOO how are anti-ai faggots STILL coping?
>https://x.com/jparkerholder/status/1952732999193096392?t=iSGpKo0xLXCPsulPYUXm0w&s=19
DON'T FORGET! THIS *NEVER* GET BETTER. JUST LIKE THE LAST VERSION!
ahhahahaa
>>717358721No problem. We can just start making computers bigger again.
>this thread
India ai superpower 2030
>>717358848I'm talking about what happened and is happening in reality.
Moore's law is indeed a "theoretical prediction", but the chip industry made sure to follow the thing like a guidebook until we stumbled into the quantum tunneling shit.
>>717358485The AI databases use so much energy because they're running millions of them at the same time, same as they would if they were running 300 million video games on maximum settings at the same time.
>>717358908We can and we are doing this, but we can't make it cheap, and we can't give a 10 million dollar machine per user.
>>717358730It's true tho, even according to western outlets
Chinese eat lot of pork, chicken. If you've ever been to a chinese restaurant you know that they are all about these
Also americans eat far more shitty quality processed meat
>>717358885Bro what is impressive about that? You are walking at a beach? Something I can do now for free. How is this fun or exciting or interesting?
>>717348856Isn't this basically what .HACK was about?
>>717347195 (OP)>feed it with screenshots of your favorite game>generate a world based on it>prompt "[character you like] naked"Yep, it's going into games machine time!
To all the bloody fools making fun of AI remember this is what AI will create in 5 years
https://youtu.be/s6Lznha9EQ0
>AI can now do walking simulators
Ok so? Where's the gameplay?
I'm sure AAA companies who do moviegames will be very upset though.
>>717358885show us your hand
>>717359216>Ok so?Kojimbo bros... le creatividada just lost the job...
Here's the scariest part of AI datacenters.
Because of the consistent and high energy usage, they're currently being designed and built around nuclear reactors (very small ones) for the purpose of providing consistent and high levels of energy for the computers to use. Go ahead and look it up if you don't believe me, it's no secret.
What this means is that if AI ever "wakes up" then you won't be able to shut it off by turning off the power, cutting the power lines, turning off the power plants etc, it'll have its own source of long term stable energy. That could be a problem, one day.
>solar roadways are the future!
>the tech will just improve enough to make em good enough!
>no, the tech improvement will not benefit just using the solar panels normally at a point they will always be better than solar roadways!
>>717358885>ai generates walking his own dogShouldn't he just take a walk with his dog irl?
>>717359447More a problem with government corruption IMO. At least in the US, roadway construction/maintenance is usually managed by companies who have personal ties to the local government in charge of the funding, so there's no incentive to build something semi-permanent. It's far more profitable to build shitty roads quickly and then get paid again to come back and fix it 5-10 years later.
This being used for games is pushed by people who don't play games. It's pic related all over again
>>717359447This nigga is still watching thunderfag in 2025
>>717352584You are stupid.
Currently, human labor is required for producing goods. Because those human laborers also have needs, a large fraction of the produced goods are fed back into the cycle, and the powerful can only skim off a portion of the whole production effort for their own desires.
If laborers are no longer required, they no longer need to be catered to. All resources can instead be repurposed for things rich people care about (robot armies and luxury yachts).
>>717358771>China creates the most pollutionChina creates less pollution than the "west" combined, which also makes up roughly the same population, and this despite the fact that the west moved most of it's manufacturing to china, greatly reducing local emissions while increasing ones in China
Also China's total emission is lower than either just the US or EU's, who have been polluting for far longer than China has been
Still, the biggest difference is at the speed of transitioning. China only recently started to double down on green transitioning and they are doing it rapidly, the numbers will be drastically different a decade or two later, meanwhile the US keeps backpedalling on promises and will barely progress even decades later
Furthermore, China's affordable solar panels and EVs also contribute to reducing emissions in the entire world
>>717347314>>717354203Was my first thought as well
>>717359415Thats the idea anon, they will have their own power grid that they control. Skynet was predictive programming. You aren't killing their power, they will have AI ran robots that protect them. I think Megaman games were unironically onto something. Repliforce was the concept of AI robots rebeling and distancing themselves from humanity and they would kill to do it. Megaman Zero also tapped into this.
>>717349372google maps aesthetic, that's new at least
>>717359683>China creates less pollution than the "west" combinedWhy are you comparing 1 country to multiple ones you disingenuous jew? Of the top 3 pollution creating countries, 2 are from asia. I can play that disingenuous crap too
>>717359651Nah, i don't need to re-watch the same exact video with slight modifications for the 20th time, but it's the same problem.
Solar roadways are a retarded idea that only lives off hype, by people expecting it to get good by miracle, without considering that every improvement done to "solar roadways" also improve regular solar panels.
This kind of "game generation" shit has to race against AIs that can just write regular video games and run em in regular hardware, and these will always be better.
For now there's no "game gen AI" that is good enough yet because people are just forcing chatGPT to do it, but it's just a matter of time until someone creates an specific AI for it, and then it's joever.
>>717356945But google won't allow you to do that, it won't allow anything fun other than the most safe, normalfag ideas.
>>717359746>This is just like my hecking media!Kill yourself
>>717359961I didn't read anything you just wrote. Best of luck with all that.
>>717356095ai is already used for medical research retard
>>717356078why would the people in charge give you something to liberate yourself instead of further sinking yourself in their subjugation? at this point gay-eye will become impressive because the average person simply cannot into logic.
>>717347195 (OP)gameplay is way more important that enless open world slop and I have yet to see ai being used to animations and overal making gameplay
>>717358885>Genie 3 feels like a watershed moment for world models : we can now generate multi-minute, real-time interactive simulations of any imaginable world. This could be the key missing piece for embodied AGIโฆ and it can also create beautiful beaches with my dog, playable real timeWhy do they all write like this?
>>717359683>China's affordable solar panels and EVsYou mean China's heavily subsidised solar panels and EVs?
>>717359937Damn I guess we should balkanize China to reduce emissions.
>>717347195 (OP)Meh. I'm desensitized to AI stuff at this point. Might be cool for porn I guess.
>>717360138we should nuke china that would be better for us all
>>717360115I don't need to do anything, just watch the OP thing turn into one of those "water powered cars" or something.
>>717359683>China creates less pollution than the "west" combinedNext you're going to say
>But China pollutes less than the West per capita! Per capitaaaa!as if our Mother Earth gives a shit about per capita. Pollution is pollution, whether 1 person makes it or a million did. China and India are by FAR the biggest polluters on Earth right now, and per capita doesn't fucking matter.
That said, the West does share some responsibility because a big reason that the East pollutes so much is because we outsource all of our manufacturing and other "dirty" jobs to them. The problem then though is not just that those jobs are being done there, but they're being done there BECAUSE they don't give a fuck about the environment (or worker's rights/protection) so it's much cheaper to have that work done there. If we did it here, then companies would be required to not turn the nearby landscape into a polluted shithole, and they wouldn't be allowed to hire slaves, which makes it much more expensive.
>>717360131>Why do they all write like this?It's marketing people and normies using word salads to try to make this a bigger deal than it is.
>>717360258>I should pollute as much as I want, I'm only one guy so it doesn't matter.>But those guys over there should live in poverty instead, which they will be fine with because ???
>>717359937>Why are you comparing 1 country to multiple onesBecause I'm comparing the emission of populations you actual retard
China could split into dozens of different countries like the west and the emission/year of all those countries would be lower than western countries
The west being sliced by borders doesn't reduce the emission rates of it's people
>>717360431You missed my point entirely. Like, you went in the complete opposite direction of what I meant.
>>717351469sorry but corporations will ban you by using le skibidi toilet
please try again but this time with a credit card/bank account info
>>717360258China is actually combating it's pollution, but probably just because it kills people directly with air pollution and reduces worker efficiency.
>>717360472Go ahead and make a bunch of small countries, Chinaman. Some of them would have very low pollution because they're mostly empty rural places, but the industrial centers would still have WAY more significant pollution than the West combined (because we pay you to do the dirty work so we don't have to)
>>717360285How is that word salad? Its an easily readable post. The only jargon term used is "emodied agi" but its an entirely accurate use of the term.
>>717360054>he doesn't understand media is all druid magic and predictive programmingSilent weapons, for quiet wars. You should read it
>>717349321you're joking, right?
>>717347195 (OP)Wasn't the interactive minecraft thing where the AI would forget immediately what happened earlier this year, and you'd look up and down and the landscape would change into something completely different? Holy fuck, This is spooky.
>>717360472Per capita doesn't matter when it comes to emissions being put into the sky you stupid chinese retard. China as an entire country is doing more than everyone else. The fact that pro green retards defend this is insane and shows how bullshit the whole green energy movement is
>>717353154>playing as this gorilla while fucking hot white slutsi can already go play some random WEG slideshow and i wouldnt need to melt a card for it
>>717360619I'm glad you found a book that makes you feel smart for having an autistic obsession with megaman and sonic.
>>717360137Ironically, they are less subsidized than american companies like Tesla, (the subsidy narrative comes from the same ameriturd politicians and their fabricated sources who are now trying to justify tariffs against the entire world, now just china, pretending that US is some victim) not like any of this should matter to the point I was making
>>717360569The entire statement is a empty word salad. The kind of stuff to impress boomer investors
I think the ccp shill itt is worse than the ai shills.
>>717355954https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hDunP2Vcuo
>>717358420AI will be the Concorde of tech
>>717360784>t. glownigger/zogbot
>>717360757I think you might just not have heard the terms being used before and/or you can't read.
>>717360720Sonic is a freemason ritual franchise, I don't see it mentioned in this thread either until you did
>>717360131>boomer reads thiswow incredible, i will invest in the product
>zoomer reads thisfinna be so lit gang
>talentless third worlder reads thishigh quality product sir
>jaded millennial who watched big money and cgi destroy his favorite films, anime, and video games from the 90s reads thisget this fucking meme out of my face
feels good being a passionate older millennial who values soul
>>717347195 (OP)>All the retards doomposting ittYou fucking fools. Of fucking course they are going to corpomeddle with it, but its still a massive step into getting real life Holodecks. Imagine this getting more refined, better, with more data, possibly leaked or reversed to not have said censorships. This shit is the future.
I for one cant wait for that day. And the disappointment that will come from upper meddling and realizing i was in the Gemini 63.0 the entire time while it was simulating lesser versions to me.
>>717360568>the industrial centers would still have WAY more significant pollution than the West combinedLmao not even thats true tho
US industrial centers still produce more emission than chinese ones
Both rural and industrial regions in china produces less emissions thna their western counterparts, china only produces overall more because it's a bigger country
>>717347195 (OP)>AI allows for realistic paint dryingholy kino
>>717355897but they change UI 10 times per year without ever adding crucial needed functions
also goog messes up JSs all the time to make it sluggish on competition browsers
>>717360950I can read and I understand the hyperbolic word salad designed to impress old tech illiterate people use
>>717360680I'm a hardcore radicalist environmentalist but you're missing the point. They do so much damage to our shared seas and skies because we pay them to do so, because it would be more expensive to do those jobs closer to home without making such a mess of it. And also because they don't give a fuck about the environment, that's why it's cheaper to have them make shit and then ship it around the world and across the ocean. It's not a simple problem.
>>717360474Explain to me why "per capita doesn't fucking matter" does not immediately lead to those two statements.
And I don't give a shit about pollution in China itself, they can have however much smog they want. I only care about anything with global effects.
>>717354510I want another SSX game, faggot.
>>717361052What is the hyperbolic part though? He said it generates multi-minute real-time simulations and that is exactly what it does lol
>>717360997I mean it's been not even 2 years since NFTs were being pushed the same way. I am sick and tired of being told how awesome something is going to be in 5 years show me and get it into my hands now
>>717360951I'm sure you've also figured out the sonichu dimensional merge predictive programming. Best of luck you 90iq mong.
>>717361061>I'm a hardcore radicalist environmentalistYou aren't at all when you deflect and defend the highest creator of pollution in the world. You are just a chinese or jewish shill. There is nothing stopping you from saying "yea china is bad too" but you actively defending them says it all
>>717361040dude you've gotta be joking lol
>>717361127nfts got shilled against by these very companies who want you to own nothing - even the things you've "bought"
>>717360258>as if our Mother Earth gives a shit about per capita. Pollution is pollution, whether 1 person makes it or a million did.You got that wrong retard
Mother earth doesn't tive a fuck if your region is sliced up by an arbitrary border or not. The people are the ones doing the pollution and the same amount of people in your region pollute more
>>717361123The entire statement lmao lol kek
>>717360131cause they used AI to write it
>>717361234no faggot. I'm saying that they're such a mess because we pay them to be a mess, because Western companies would be less profitable if they had to manufacture all their disposable goods here at home where there are laws to limit environmental damage and worker exploitation. We pay the Chinese to make our toys because it's cheaper. So fuck them AND fuck us (or at least the ones of us who do it or buy that garbage)
>>717361327I'm sorry I raped you.
>>717361374>blah blah blah I am pro green energy and anti pollution but I will defend the biggest pollution creatorfuck off liar
>>717358350>This method will generate things that never have existed and never would have existed if you didn't prompt itArtistically there's nothing AI can make that couldn't be made by a human.
>>717361405Raping requires you to leave your mother's basement which you haven't done in years lol
>>717361441I'm not defending China, dumbass. Fuck em, I support war with China for environmental reasons alone. India too. What I'm saying is that it's not so simple, even when we get rid of them, we'll still have to deal with our local companies who would gladly do it again if it was profitable.
>>717361506Nonetheless, I apologize for it.
Thats all cool but have they ever made any of this shit go into public testing instrad of having a fancy video and a shitty long paper no one cares about?
Why the fuck should i care about this if i cant see it for myself.
>>717361531>I'm not defending China>proceeds to do nothing but defend China and deflect them from any blameyou psychopaths are all the same
>>717356509And when they're randomly flung through time they coincidentally land on earth, [year episode was filmed]. Funny how that works out.
ps- they do reference artists and influential people from our future, it's just usually better writing to reference something that exists
>>717361574You didn't do anything so there is no need to apologize
>>717347195 (OP)Where are all the abstract horror worlds? Shit like this should be made for interfacing with machine elves.
>>717361648fuck you retard dumb bitch faggot yuck
>>717361718You don't need to make excuses for me, I don't deserve forgiveness.
>>717361764>"FUCK YOU BENCHOD BASTERD BITCH BLOODYkek of course you were a pajeet
>>717347195 (OP)>voices of the void gameplay
>>717361648>psychopathsHe's probably a paid ccp shill. Let's try a snippet
>>717361531ๅจๆ็ฝ่ช็ฑ้จ ๅคฉๅฎ้ ๅคฉๅฎ้จ ๆณ่ผชๅ ๆๆดชๅฟ Free Tibet ๅ
ญๅๅคฉๅฎ้ไบไปถ The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 ๅคฉๅฎ้ๅคงๅฑ ๆฎบ The Tiananmen Square Massacre ๅๅณๆดพ้ฌฅ็ญ The Anti-Rightist Struggle
>>717361852Maybe one day you'll break the 3 digit IQ barrier and realize that things are complicated.
>>717361828None were made since you did nothing
>>717354279Even if you could run it locally it's useless. It's a fucking VR tech demo that has pacing issues. The roller starts automatically when it's nowhere near touching the wall.
>>717361732I don't think boomer investors are going to react too well to having their heads hacked off by some cryptid in the woods.
>>717361901It's not complicated. You are a Chinese shill
>>717361893Faggot, why are you so fucking stupid? I'm not defending China at all. I'm saying FUCK THEM, but also we have corruption here in our countries, which is what allowed their retard country to become anything significant in the first place. Fuck you guys are stupid.
>>717348804>>717349043Honestly, is there a single good reason why bot comments pretending to be human shouldn't be outlawed under threat of a prison sentence?
>>717351232>the only people prolapsing over this incredible new tech are street shitting indians who can't speak english and know they're gonna get replaced soonSUFFER RAJ
>>717362016>but also we haveWe aren't Chinese like you retard
>ai being used improve agriculture, meal production, medicine and recycling
BORING
>ai being used to create endless slop and waste a shit ton of power
YIPPIEE
i want to brake fingers of every ai faggot with an adjustable wrench
YOU FUCK ME I FUCK YOU BLOODY
>>717362069I'm whiter than you, faggot.
>>717362080It doesn't waste anything more than your computer does when you're playing a game.
>>717362030Yes. Comments are very low quality and worthless. We should either execute people for making comments or just continue to not care about them.
>>717362141Prove it with a time stamp
>>717347195 (OP)I think this is cool, but the way they're marketing it makes them seem desperate. It's like they're parading something around that they don't fully understand, comprehend or control. Like a circus lion or a genetically deformed person. Look at 0:41. The roller detaches from the wall mid stroke, yet it's still somehow painting it. Maybe that's fairly trivial to fix, but I'm getting the impression that getting a hallucinating AI to generate video game worlds is more work than it's worth. AI datacenters are already eating up way too much power and water and it's only going to get worse when they start hallucinating these interactable videos for millions of users.
>>717360680Why the FUCK wouldn't per capita matter you absolute sub70 IQ retard
How in the love of god is this shit so fucking hard to comprehend.
Just because a country has more people in it that doesn't mean those people can only must only access less of the same services than people in countries that just happen to be smaller.
Again, if china splintered into 50 different countries to mimic the west and disappeared from the top of emission charts that doesn't mean china suddenly improved it's emission, even if a retard like you might believe that those chinese countries are now doing better.
The only thing that matters is how much the people themselves pollute
>>717353910>we can finally have blurry video graphics instead of crisp polygon graphics
>>717354949>nigga IT GENERATES WHATEVER YOU CAN IMAGINEAt 240p, sure. You're missing that anon's point: the IMAGE QUALITY at a proper (1080p+) RESOLUTION will be dogshit.
It doesn't matter in terms of pollution output you stupid disingenuous retard. If one area of the world is outputting more than another per capita does not fucking mean a god damn thing that area is still creating more pollution that is killing our planet
>>717357721>people pay good money to be a general fighting in wars>I do it for free in HoI4Wow, you really owned me.
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>>717362184not doing a timestamp but here's my foot. feel free to make fun of whatever but I'm still whiter than you and I live in the best state of America.
environmentalism is not a simple problem. Yes the Chinese and the Indians are causing most of it today, but we should also understand that we're paying them to do it because it's cheaper. We could easily do the manufacturing here, but it would be more expensive because we have laws to protect people and the environment, so the companies send that work elsewhere. Blame them too.
>>717362285How are you people so bad at extrapolating trends?
>>717362141>It doesn't waste anything more than your computer does when you're playing a game.sure it does
>>717361531Chinese people pollute less than you westurd people do you coward PoS. They do this Even with the fact that westoid corpos moved their manufacturing to china
The westurd moral shithole is the only region that deserves a war for the crimes it did against the environment, not China, who is btw also the only country that takes global green transitioning seriously
>>717362371>no time stamp>disfigured footI accept your concession
>>717362518it's literally the same fucking thing. computer hardware being pushed to the limit. it doesn't matter whether it's processing an AI, running a game, rendering an image, whatever. it's the same fucking thing you retard
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>>717349372there's not much utility for making games with a blackbox like this honestly, but playing spot the differences is fun.
this window became a garage door which i thought was pretty funny.
>>717361192I'm objectively smarter than you
>>717362568confession denied
>>717362592doesn't generative ai use a shit ton of power?
>>717362596Like Dr. Wily smart or Dr. Robotnik smart?
>>717362708it uses the same amount of power as if you were running it locally. which means, only as much power as your machine can use. those datacenters use so much power because they're running millions of those things at the same time
>>717362335>per capita does not fucking mean a god damn thingSo splitting up China (in a way that divides the emissions as evenly as possible) will fix it?
>>717362630I accepted your concession we are good
>>717347195 (OP)Absolutely painful to watch
>>717347195 (OP)the target audience of AI will never be able to come up with games like Sekiro or anything remotely worth playing, I don't understand the hype behind this
>>717362776so wouldn't it be better if we used that power for more useful things?
>>717354427>>717355897literal sub90 iq monkeys jesus christ
you couldn't string together two logical sentences without your brain exploding
what does
>why are few people getting paid so muchhave to do with
>many people are uselessgod damn it we need a fucking IQ test as a captcha
>>717362778No stopping the country that produces the most pollution aka china will fix it
>>717362796confession denied for bad this time
>>717355618luigi if he real
>>717362860like what? playing video games?
>>717362865you are providing nothing of value to the world, but you keep eating. Why?
>>717362884see previous post
>>717362947agriculture, meal production, medicine, recycling
>>717362867If we split up China enough they'll all be down somewhere with Estonia or something, so the problem will vanish.
>>717362371>I live in the best state of Americathat doesnt look like an nyc apartment
>>717363043Splitting up won't change the amount of pollution they produce which is the most in the world
>No demo link
Investor-baiting bullshit. Fuck off.
>>717363032First of all, recycling is BULLSHIT that only exists to make consumer whores feel a bit better. Very few things can be actually recycled. Most plastics cannot. What you put into the recycling bin just gets sorted out into different categories. Some are sold to companies in India and China that profit from having slaves scour it for anything that can be resold, and the rest ends up in a landfill like the rest of your garbage.
It goes Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, in that order for a reason. Recycle is that last resort. Before that you should reduce and reuse.
>>717363054NYC fucking sucks. I lived there for a year and it was a nightmare. some old fat black lady threatened to stab my gf on the subway, said she was too skinny. she kept saying "eat a fucking cheeseburga bitch!" and I had to get between them. I also saw some people fucking on a bench when I visited central park. Fuck nyc
Why are techfags trying to destroy everything good?
>>717363114>theyWho, those 100 countries with Chinese-sounding names? Those are all so small that they barely matter, we need to go after the big players like India or the US.
>>717363032You're not going to get any of that until you build an ai model that can operate robots. In order to do that you need AIs that can simulate internal world models that are consistent with reality. That is why all the big ai labs like google are building these simulators. The fact that they are also useful for videogame and movie production is just a convenient side effect.
>>717363275No just China aka the biggest polluter in the world
>>717349372You know what would be awesome? If that car was an actual digital object. And those houses. And those sidewalk slabs. And those plants. You could have multiple identical copies of that car, just like in real life! No AI hallucination to worry about. You'd have total control over everything, just like the humans who built that neighborhood in real life.
Sadly all those objects listed are malleable, forgettable memories dreamed up by an AI. It's all just useless pixel play-doh.
>>717363289see
>>717362884>wespeak it for youself fag
>>717363257nyc natives can smell the green on you, makes you and yours easy pickings in the subway arena that pretty much everyone else navigates without any problems
>>717363403I accepted your concession we are good
>>717359650This is the Zoku from The Quantum Thief
>>717363350But there won't be a China?
>>717363468confession denied
>wespeak it for yourself faggot
>>717360137They're state subsidized to increase the learning rate, and it worked, real costs are down.
>>717363546yup concession still accepted
>>717363453fuck that. I prefer living in places where you can say hello to someone on the sidewalk and they don't assume you're trying to scam them or rob them
>>717363590yup confession still denied
>>717363642let me check and yes I am still accepting your concession
>>717363257there is still glass and tin that can be easily recycled
making sure plastic waste can only be with plastic waste is good so it doesn't continue to pollute even if we have to drop it in a volcano or send it to the sun eventually
being able to sort out food to decompose on its own, or have liquid wastes return to the water table is better than it all just being trapped in a bottle in a landfill
even if all of this is minor improvements to waste management (its not) its still really good because as the technology improves ai will do more for waste management
for someone who shills so hard for ai you lack the imagination of what it could really do for society
>>717351069pretty good but there's still things wrong
like the desks have disappearing/appearing bars on the front legs and other small details
but they did do a good job of that outside part, I can only see the perspective getting changed but the objects themselves were recreated pretty well
the only question is how reusable this is. did they have to train a model specifically for this scene to ensure consistency or could they use the same one for all of them
>>717363309so why aren't ai companies spending the money to do that? they're getting billions
>>717363685let's check me out, your confession has been denied
>>717363867still accepted
>>717363728some fair points but you assume too much. I've volunteered at least 5000 thousand hours for environmentalist causes, cleaning up trash, maintaining trails, cutting down sick trees, removing invasive species, planting trees, etc. Don't talk to me like I'm a consumer whore like you.
>>717363821They are all spending money on it. Every big ai lab is developing their own video model.
so let me get this straight
we can ais that make a movie in seconds, have self driving cars, and face tracking cameras that can easily find you in a crowd
but being able to sort plastic from paper is impossible for ai?
>>717362687Things in the holodeck are like video game objects. They are generated by the ship's computers, but they're actual virtual things. If everyone on the holodeck was just watching AI hallucinations of the same events from their own POVs, it would be pretty inefficient and unreliable. If you're Starfleet and you want to replicate reality, why not make it work like reality? Humans don't hallucinate the things they see. It's all actually happening and everyone sees the same physical entities interacting with each other. No point making a simulated version of reality work differently.
>>717364051we can use ai that make
>>717363938>I've volunteered at least 5000 thousand hoursgenie stop you're hallucinating
>>717364051Look up Moravec's Paradox for an explanation on why that is.