Never forget.

>>717358171 (OP)
Great game

>>717358214
>what we were promised
vs
>what we got

>>717358214
we literally got all of this though?

>>717358171 (OP)
Why did they remove all the GRIT

>>717358925
lol

>>717358971
CDPR's good devs, aka the dudes who made the Witcher games and pitched the original Cyberpunk idea, all left after Blood & Wine because of the company's shitty management and were replaced by blue haired American women

https://www.cdprojektred.com/en/diversity

>>717358214
made this a while ago.

>>717358171 (OP)
Shouldn't have overpromissed. Still a good game though.

>>717358171 (OP)
I will never forget the embarrassment of /v/ hyping themselves into a delusional frenzy at a fucking CGI trailer. As soon as they showed gameplay, it was obvious exactly what the game was going to be.

>>717358171 (OP)
never forghetti mama welles spaghetti

CD Projekt Red screwed over the Cyberpunk 2077 fanbase by launching a broken game in 2020, delaying key features and promised content, and abandoning meaningful updates for last-gen players. They hyped a living, breathing cyberpunk world, then left us with a glitchy shell for months. They do not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

I need some competent studio to make an actual cyberpunk RPG like the one that was promised. Unfortunately there are no competent studios in the West anymore, and nips wouldn't be able to do it properly either.

>>717360232
Mayhaps peruse the indie titles?

>>717358171 (OP)
the 2013 traler really had the Neromancer/Bladerunner feeling, from cops to art to buildings, shame we will never get something like that anytime soon
>>717359757
i remember when virgins believed a leak of a video with the view of the city, pic related but it was video but i can't find the video ( it was amazing, but it was just CGI shit) they though it was from the game itself, that shit won't run on modern console or a 5090 without them being on fire

>>717360348
I mostly play indie games nowadays, but they wouldn't be able to make what I dream of.

cyberpunk cities just shouldn't be sunny. they shouldn't be dark, rainy, and neon
>b-but muh cyberpunk ttrpg says th-
don't care

>>717361610
meant
>they should be dark

>>717360218
I pirated it before the dlc and it was still dogshit despite being "fixed", the game is bad at the core, bad dialogues, no rpg elements, bad story, no meaningful decisions, not a single likeable character or a character with good reasoning, the entire universe itself is just our modern one too, there's nothing that makes it look futuristic.

>>717361610
The day/night cycle shouldn't be in your game if your NPCs don't have a schedule. The game only utilizes it three times for missions. Redundant.

Remember that night city was called such because it was meant to be filled with so much pollution that you never saw daylight. Devs fucked it up from the start because they decided to follow the GTA trend.

>>717358171 (OP)
One of my friends (legit has IQ problems) was loving the game at release on older gen (the console where it eventually got removed from because it was so bad). I feel like in a way he represents most consumers. Happy to fill his life with absolute garbage if it had cool advertising.

>>717361883
>the game is bad at the core, bad dialogues, no rpg elements, bad story, no meaningful decisions, not a single likeable character or a character
Yeah that was my issue with it. It just felt like an Ubislop game but with 100 times more long winded dialogue said by NPC's you don't care about.
If you can't write interesting characters making an RPG is just a waste of time.

>>717361610
nah they should be sunny
>b-but muh blade runner
don't care

New Shadowrun game when?

>>717362089
It’s Night City because the dude’s last name was Night retard.

>>717358214
>2026
>Still the most dishonestly marketed game ever

These fucking polacks were literally talking about faction alignment and other shit like that a few days before release in the Night Wire...

>>717362089
most intelligent cyberpunk 2077 hater

>>717362572
NIGHT City at DAYtime looks terrible and reminds me of Fallout 4.

>>717363250

>>717363250
>NIGHT City at DAYtime
do NOT wiki who Richard Night is in universe

>>717363250
Having worked in seattle a lot, that is just what I would expect of Night City.

>>717363250
What a shame. We could have gotten something good

Why can't we make fun of troons in this game? It literally broke my immersion. 0/10

>>717358873
>Aliar Pearce mogged by a tranny
Grim

2.0 gutting the skill trees made this game a lot shittier, Tranime fagrunners fans who never played it before then sucking CDPR cock about how good it is was were retarded

Does CP2077 have a good amount of explorable interiors or is the city just set dressing? Like going into buildings, houses, etc.
I don't like a lot of the choices they made for the game, but if that aspect is present I might give it a try.

>>717363250
shit should be foggy and cloudy constantly for how polluting everything is in the future the clear day lighting was retarded and took away from the atmosphere of the city

>>717364460
Set dressing.

>>717363860
The one tranny in the game is a homicidal rage filled maniac

>>717364460
Indoor stuff is usually for missions or side quests.

>>717364265
It’s annoying that the abilities they added were good but they also removed all flexibility in builds.

nooo why didn't a real game deliver on the impossible and ever changing expectations of my imagination?? nooo it was supposed to change my life nooo

>>717363316
>took away the grittyness from the previous faggots
>turned it into generic dishonored bioshock while having it overly 1950s when fallout was always a blend of 40s to 60s
>continue with this with 76 slop and the dogshit slop tv show
>normies will now associate fallout with this bethesda bastardization
we gotta kill todd

>>717358171 (OP)
I wont. Like that anon with Mass Effect 3, I will never not be mad. And while Cyberpunk ended up being OK looter shooter, it's not an RPG in any way or shape

>>717364858
See
>>717358214
>OUR PROMISE
>OUR PROMISE
>OUR PROMISE
>OUR
>PROMISE

>>717359375
>your life is so worthless you had time to make this
kek you are like the people you claim to hate, chuddo

>>717364460
The city is set dressing and almost all of the actual content is in interior spaces. But every interior space you can go into is an ad hoc level effectively. You generally can’t go into random places unless there’s a point.

>>717364614
>>717364697
>>717365067
Ah, that sucks. Thanks anons, guess it's not for me after all.

The most annoying thing is that nightime lasts for 6 hours in-game. Totally incomprehensible.

>>717364460
what these two anons said
>>717364614
>>717364697
I almost wish the sequel takes place in the same city, but now the interiors of every building exists, you can enter any floor, see how people live. And if they were really OP you could break glass and jump out of buildings.

Another thing I dislike is how much it's like GTA but with magic. I want to slink around corporate headquarters and steal stuff and raise shit, not aggro some civilian wagies.

>>717358171 (OP)
I wish they had made THAT game, to play as a MaxTac dealing with a cyberpsycho-related conspiracy. More like an edgy Deus Ex.

>>717365252
>I almost wish the sequel takes place in the same city
Set it during Johnny's era too.

I bought and played this recently because it was on sale. I had obviously seen all of the reviews, the letdowns, the actual gameplay and generally seen enough to not be disappointed with what I got
2077, with no expectations for it to be any groundbreaking RPG, is a solid 7/10 game. it's fine. Fun, in a lot of places. But, it was over hyped and undercooked. Keanu Reeves is likeable as Silverhand, and I guess he got them good publicity, but I can't see that the character would have been any less interesting if he had been played by Some Guy. The game would have been better served if they had spent the money and a little more time polishing the game they actually made.
>The inventory system is kind of a mess
>Cyberware is underwhelming and hardly lets you change your appearance
>The cars are basically pointless because bikes are just so much easier to ride around the city
>There's a severe lack of romance options
>the dance animations in V's apartment with said love interest is laughable
>the main story is woefully short compared to how many little sidequests there are
>Night City is too bright
>sliding feels sluggish and unresponsive
>police shootouts hardly escalate. MaxTac teams should show up if you go on a rampage
>Adam Smasher just kind of shows up in a room at the end
>life paths hardly matter aside from odd dialogue choices
>cars sometimes just fall out of the sky when called

>sell the game for last gen + current consoles
>uuuh yeah we wont be supporting last gen and wont update the game, have fun

Fucking pollacks.

>>717364905
>"boohoo boston isn't an extremely derivative grey-brown collection of crackhouses and NCR forts like NV and literally every 7th gen fps was"

>>717364858
Did they poorly pace their development? Yes but I can forgive them for that.

Did they have people pay full price for a buggy product it took them 4 years to fix? Yes

>>717365283
>I wish they had made THAT game
We all do, buddy

Reminder this is a LOLI
Reminder she is CANONICALLY a child PROSTITUTE
Reminder she is THE most POPULAR character of the entire cp2077 IP
Reminder ESG cocksuckers at CDPR wanted her GONE
Reminder THIS is what total MAJORITY of the audience WANTS
Reminder THE LOLI MUST STAY

>>717364460
theres also very little interactive stuff. The most interesting being (some) vending machines and the metro. Otherwise the game couldve been linear game with levels. The NPCs are lacking too

>>717365373
>sliding feels sluggish and unresponsive
this looks so good on paper but I can never execute it in combat in a cool way. Severed Steel had a better sliding mechanic. It was funny seeing me slide upstairs or over cracked sidewalks.

>>717365373
If you want sliding to look even a little bit satisfying you gotta crank up the FOV to make it seem like youre going faster.

>>717364817
It's not just the abilities, so much was changed that wasn't necessary.
>Ripperdocs lost their custom Legendary wares
>Specific weapon skill trees gone
>With the loss of skill trees and sub trees you lost a lot more skill point potential
>No more special Legendary weapon arms
>Builds heavily limited since buffs in 2.0 just want to slap evasion on as an additive perk to everything instead of actually interesting interactions from pre 2.0 builds like the poison knife nuke build. All they had to do was adjust multiplies to the original trees to make them less potent for balance but nope.
Not all of 2.0's changes are bad but the biggest ones really sucked the fun out especially in the late game.

>>717358171 (OP)
YES SHE DESERVED TO DIE AND I HOPE SHE BURNS IN HELL

>>717365373
>sliding feels sluggish and unresponsive
Play Vanquish

>>717365742
At least the PL dashing is good. Never tried airdashing though.
Don’t know what the fuck they were smoking with the original double tap dodge.

>2025
>faggots still seething about cyberkino

>>717363250
why does it look so washed out

>huge blade runner inspired city to explore
>bethesda-like interactivity (items, npc schedules, etc)
>deep rpg mechanics
>sandbox and life sim elements
>open ended, tons of side quests
>encouraged to explore the city and game world
>can enter all buildings
Is there any chance of a game like this being released in the next 30 years?

>>717358214
What exactly took them 15(?) years?

>>717358971
Grit isn't anything masses like

>>717366534
This is easily feasible but then the normalfags will throw a fit if the graphics aren't hyper realistic instead of embracing a lower fidelity art direction that allows for the city to be fully explorable inside and out. If you took the specs for running 2077 but had the graphics at PS1 or PS2 level you'd have a lower cost shorter dev cycle with everything you listed.

>>717365992
Weapon trees are still in the game. Body gets shotguns/lmgs, reflex gets ARs/SMGs, etc.
The problem is that they changed all the skills from
>makes you better with shooting this gun type
to
>do some active ability to get this situational benefit
Which on paper sounds more engaging, but in practice it means you HAVE to play in a specific way to derive any benefit from skills.
So with shotguns, your capstone skill gives you a damage boost if and only if you melee smack people after shooting them. Your shotgun playstyle basically requires shoot-melee-shoot-melee. Or the SMG capstone is no reloads but you need two SMGs to switch between. There’s just no flexibility in how you actually play because so many skills dictate what you have to do rather than what you can do.
A counterexample is Quake for blunt weapons, which is awesome.

Reminder that if you don't help this guy then you're dooming all of humanity to AI hell.

>>717362756

2013

>>717366534
Kirkblade was an anomaly. You will never find a better more creative writer that can do non-linear stories and elaborate world building. Everyone is just set dressing their games with pretty graphics now, but it just makes their controls look even jankyier.

>>717359375
Shouldn't we help Ill people, instead of mocking government propaganda victims?

>>717365009
Its pretty easy when entertainment, banks, supermarkets and the government all line up to kiss the arses of perverts who insist they be referred to as something they biologically aren't

>>717360391
>Neromancer
Necro or neuro?

>>717366893
Can't be much worse than what they have now.

>>717365009
"Kek" you are butthurt. If you are on /v/ you are wasting your time. That text probably took 10 minutes to put together. Do you have trans friends or something? Wondering why you'd get offended by that post

>>717367026
It's a lot worse. It's like I HAVE NO MOUTH BUT I MUST SCREAM worse. Yeah their world is already fucked, but what the rogue AIs will do to them is unimaginably worse, like some Lovecraft horror.

>>717366679
You don't get it bro, it's hard to make a shitty GTA clone
On a more serious note, I doubt they started working for real on the game before they were done with W3, and after they were done with W3 the core devs all left the company. Current CDPR is not much different from BioWare: different devs just using the name

>>717366893
>coudn't root out a couple of niggers on his own
>needed an entire fucking mall full of animals AND a guy who found them with just a fixer.

That glowie was just wasting tax money.
I took down the apes with my gorilla arms after I wiped off his blood.

>>717366876
Yeah but severely less involved with alternate playstyles like you siad, those trees also had their own separate skill points you could be rewarded with rather than what we got with 2.0. Pistol used to work really well with the Cold Blood perk tree to turn revolvers into a god particle gun or a ricochet machine. But like you said now we're pigeon holed to weird locked playstyles in 2.0. It's worse than Borderlands for RPG character elements and actually made me stop doing replays of 2077 when before I was eager to try new builds out with the more expanded trees of pre 2.0

Cyberpunk 2077 is a better game than The Witcher 3. CDPR fans have severe attachment issues for the Witcher games. Everybody who disagrees with me is a fucking retard.

>>717366928
David Gaider?

>>717367287
Witcher 2>2077>Witcher 3>Witcher 1

>Cyberpunk 2077 is a better game than The Witcher 3
why are you comparing it to an rpg instead of a gta clone? cybershit isn't even better than saints row

how woke is this shit?

>>717367520
2077? Not at all. There's a lot of degenerate shit in it but that's the point, it's a degenerate future where everything is fucked

>>717367520
>>717367601
high tech, low life, that's the main creative idea for the setting.

>>717365992
>Specific weapon skill trees gone
>With the loss of skill trees and sub trees you lost a lot more skill point potential
??????

>>717367520
Only two female romance interests, one is a lesbian, the straight one is brown

>>717361610
Ah yes, the sun no longer exists in the year 2077.

>>717367760
Panam is a sun kissed goddess you fag

>>717367520
(you) can get into gay romances if you want
There's one tranny billboard with cock bulge
There's one tranny character you can interact with and do a series of side quests who has a tranny flag on their truck
That's about it.

>>717367760
yeah but they're both just distractions. The true ending for V, the best ending, is a solo assault on Arasaka Tower. Anything else is just coping poorly with the inevitable death and decay.

>>717367887
she's brown and we all know it.

I finished Cyberpunk on the PS4 and it was fun

>>717358171 (OP)
>personal, responsibility

>>717361610
I don't know about all that, but cyberpunk city should be a nightmare to live in, filled with dopamine-raping shit in it, making the lowest of the low think it would be a cool and fun place to live in, but in reality it's a soul-sucking experience to live in. Cyberpunk should be a critique on modern life.

>>717367936
>the tranny race revenge quests
Dumb faggot literally entered into a DEATH RACE and then got mad because his husband died in the race. Dumbass, that's literally the whole thing, people die in that race all the time.

>>717367132
>after they were done with W3 the core devs all left the company

You guys keep repeating this even though it's very clearly false. What's next, all the "core devs" are now making the vampire game?

>>717367946
You are brown

>>717367706
Pistol had it's own skill tree that came with perk points. Every sub skill tree came with a perk tree instead of the base 4 you get in 2.0 which means your extra skill points are less in 2.0 than pre 2.0

>>717368102
I'm white and that's why I didn't like Panam or Judy, they're both kinda lame. I tried to hang out with River but he started getting gay so I stopped.

Point remains. Solo tower assault is the true ending, and you know it's true because it's the only good ending, the rest suck.

>>717367946
None of the endings matter anyway since they all share the same pattern: V disappears from Night City.

I wonder who had the idea of making Judy a full on lesbian. Having just 1 (one) romance option in your game for straight male V is just dumb.

>>717362756
Shadowrun is spineless trash, it pushes off negative human traits off to fairy tale creatures and blames it all on dragons and magic.

>pick up cyberpunk to enjoy my AGP
>V talks so much I can barely enjoy my fetish

Voiced protagonist was a mistake

>>717368370
Meredith should've been the other option

You have to be a hollow soulless husk of a man to think the Arasaka assault ending is something good.

>>717368238
I'm white and you sound like a fag

>>717368421
so only troons can't stand voiced protags
explains why fallout 4 is hated so much

Instead of adding more useless cars and paintjobs they should have added a bluemoon romance.

>>717367132
>shitty GTA clone
it's much better than gta 5

>>717368370
There's actually all the info and data in the game already to have her as a bisexual romance option. For whatever reason, they made her into a lesbian only option at the last minute. The mods that make her romanceable for males basically just re-enable stuff that's already in the game, they don't add anything new.

>>717367936
the craziest part about the tranny is that there's no reason for that in the Cyberpunk setting. You can actually change your sex in that world, on a genetic level. They even have true furries who have merged their DNA with various animals. There's zero reason to be a tranny as we know them today, because in that world they can go all the way.

>>717368621
>explains why fallout 4 is hated so much
It's not just troons, anon. Fallout 4 is a just shit game.

>>717368621
Explains why Morrowind is so well liked as well.

>>717358171 (OP)
PERSONAL

>>717368421
beccafags everyone

>>717367601
why can't we have future without degeneracy? there's no rules that futuristic game has to have troons in it

>>717368621
troons love 4 more than vegas with the modding

>>717368860
retard

Panam is just kinda ugly...
>>717368738
>For whatever reason
The game came out in 2020, the height of wokeness in gaming. They probably thought they'd get praised for having a romance only for lesbians

>>717367936
You forgot
>Watson Whore ad
>Fingers
>Kerry
>Playing Female V with the Johnny possession sequences where you fuck that one random woman and Rogue

I built my PC especially to play this and I NEVER will
>the patches fixe-
Nope, they didn't make Cyberpunk 2077.

>>717368994
The game even has voiced lines for Judy romancing a male V, they just removed the option at the last minute. Kinda nuts

>>717368860
there's only one tranny in the game, an e-celeb cameo

>>717368912
NTA but you're wrong, NV is the number 1 trooncore game

>>717369083

>>717368097
Nope, not false. When that faggot Badowski got the greenlight to jump over to Cyberpunk he basically pushed out all the original Devs working on Cyberpunk (the ones who wanted it to be a super deep RPG similar to the tabletop). He brought in his own team to turn the game into the normie faggoty slop we have now.

>>717369083
>the patches fixe-
Some anons are arguing that they made the game worse

>>717368989
nice argument

>>717369234
ok

>>717369083
This, based. It would be a "redemption arc" if they actually released the game they fucking PROMISED
>>717358214

>>717369132
see>>717368036 and >>717367936

>>717359204
>IT'S DUH AMERICANS
europeans just can't into immersive sims except arkane

>>717369083
You're missing out. The game was a trainwreck when it was released, but now it's a completely different game. And some people really don't like the changes, because the updates have changed a lot. It's on version 2.6 or something like that right now

>>717358214
and what we got was this

>>717369359
Sometimes I think new movies are gay and full of social engineering bullshit, so I watch older movies. But then I see it's the same shit, just more subtle. All about accepting lower standards and working hard, in various contexts. Accepting shit in return for your best efforts, but you have to smile for it.

>>717369204
So the old CD Projekt is basically dead? I wonder how shit the new Witcher game will be

>>717368860
Anon, look around you. We live in the present and there is so much degeneracy going on everywhere. You are living the dystopia right now. Make a change.

>>717369619
NuCDPR had a menstruation award day or some bullshit
They are fucked

>>717367991
>>717368841

>>717369815

>>717369204
that pic has to be false. First of all, no proof, and second of all, bullshit
>choose background and heroes
this was just a concept of customizing your origin. These things were never gonna be in the game and seem like they would change even less than the lifepaths. Starting off in a desert as a nomad or a corpo in arasaka tower is more interesting than "blackhand dood!". The whole Keanu Reeves thing is false too. Bringing a legend from the tabletop game as a ghost on a chip is a kino concept and a great way to connect the new game to the old tabletops. Keanu was always gonna have a large role. The "Keanu asked for a bigger role" is literally a lie they made for marketing. This pic makes no sense, its literally a fanfic

>>717370280
you sound like you're coping

>>717370008
unc wants to be Sam Houser so bad

>>717370415
youre pulling shit out your ass because it fits your narrative buddy

>>717369719
that can't be real

>>717363340
>Having worked in seattle a lot
This has relevance why? I swear, you Seattlefags are the most insufferable people on this website.

>>717370803
Can't be worse than australians

>>717370791
Had to go to shitter for this

>>717358214
>>717358171 (OP)
Yep...

That was the last game that ever got me excited and I didn't buy it because it way undershot my expectations. It could have been a REAL game and a creation that felt worth a damn but no.

>>717371067
>eligible REDs
They really went through a lot of effort to avoid using the word "women" in that post.

>>717371103
I remember being so hyped for it too. In the end, I didn't buy or even play it.

>>717371067
There's a whole "meta-industry" of critics for all creative artforms, who want to police the messages and ideas that people express. Video games, movies, poems, even websites, they have an opinion on all of it.

It's no use negotiating with them, or trying to be neutral. You can only ignore these parasites, or they will take something from you.

>>717370803
because every fucking big city with skyscrapers looks like a bunch of dull concrete and shiny glass under the sun.
Bellevue is the same thing in minature.
everything blurs together in ugly dull colors no matter what.
anyone who lives around a city with some big skyscrapers can tell you this shit.
cities have always looked better at night since lighting became a thing.

>>717358873
We still get plenty of sexy women in the game. Several missions take place in strip clubs and brothels for gods sake.

>>717365373
>police shootouts hardly escalate. MaxTac teams should show up if you go on a rampage
this literally is what happens when you get max wanted level

>>717372461
If they played pre 2.0 then he's right. 5 star was nothing then.

I'm playing this game for the first time right now. I'm having fun, but it's really striking that this game feels very mis-marketed. V is mostly a very preset character. He's a lot closer to the type of protagonist that Geralt is rather than a typical WRPG create-a-character, like the Baldur's Gate 3 protagonist. You have some choices but frequently the options all make sense in the context of who V is as you meet him in act 1. Your background is shown on all your saves but it doesn't seem to affect anything but an occasional optional dialog choice.
The RPG mechanics of the game is really more about what method of violence you use.
I'm already at 20 Intelligence and then I've got Technical Ability up to 10. Reflex is at 8 i think, I'm trying to get both of those up since they seem like the most important for dialog options and opening optional doors.
I recently got the double jump implant which makes it feel like a different game. Any other really cool optional mechanics i should know about?
One complaint I do have is the difficulty. I'm on Very Hard but you can really destroy people with mind hacks and smart weapons. You can also cheat stealth with hacks because Memory Wipe makes you selectively invisible.

>>717363250
Most cities look terrible in daylight.

>>717372659
Gorilla arms can bypass certain locked doors and acts as an additive for Strength checks

>>717365563
>Reminder she is CANONICALLY a child PROSTITUTE

Only in your head canon, chomo.

>>717372659
at 20 int you are basically endgame, anon.
the game is a bit too easy and needs a number of mods to shore up things.

>>717373026
She's got the Mox gang symbol on her thigh. A gang of former working girls who came together to stand on their own rather than work under the abusive gangs of night city

>>717359375
someone should share this next to a pic of the tranny they put in Phantom Liberty.

>>717373184
I looked at the nexus mod page for most popular and it just seemed like a whole page of like engine tweaks or other technical stuff you need to get other mods working in the first place. Looked cumbersome to deal with.

>>717362756
hopefully never. the Harebrained Schemes trilogy might not be an absolute perfect series but it's easily going to be better than anything the nigger, faggot and tranny infested industry could possibly create today.

>>717373391
for netrunning it isnt as cumbersome, but it also doesnt give you as much.
there are a few core mods that massively change things, but it takes time to go through and find and set things up.
it was worth it for me

>>717373391
There’s a lot, but it’s just drag and drop. There aren’t a million mod managers and other utilities you need to figure out.

>>717373339
>Mox gang
Not all of them were whores, you just want this one to be because she's underage.

I'll keep the wood chipper topped off and ready for you.

>>717372659
It used to be way more broken. You used to be able to passively reboot the eyes of anyone that looked at you with a breach protocol daemon. So you could Laughing Man walk past everyone instead of doing any stealth. I really miss that.

>>717358171 (OP)
>They spent a fucking decade since they did that trailer
>Still released a mediocre, buggy mess that couldn't even be played from start to finish
How the mighty have fallen...

IIRC there was an interview shortly after this teaser where they already declared that the game itself would have a completely different aesthetic.

>>717373871
>Not the fictional chil-
>Age: Around 20
Hope the chipper rental was cheap retard lmfao

>>717374931
Becs Sex

>>717361610
Ah, yes, the sun doesn't exist in Cyberpunk.

You're so mind-broken by a fucking light. Jesus.

>>717358214
They delivered on ALL of those lmao why are you crying.

You will never be a woman.

>>717366410
Because they didn't bother to contrast the sun. It's like RGG in Hawaii where "noon" washes everything out because they don't turn the sun down a few shades in post-processing to where shit gets blinding.

>>717375295
NC is in California so it makes sense to have that blistering washed out look

>>717369210
They did.
>REQUIRES a SSD now because they can't figure out streaming from 1970's tech like developers twenty years ago did for GTA3-VC-SA
Patrick K. Mills (a developer on the notoriously buggy Neverwinter Nights 2 and Cyberpunk) is the kiss of death on games.

>>717373871
>>717374931
>Retard loli pearl clutcher utterly BTFO

>>717375046
I'm a kiwi appreciator but the Becca is a child! faggots need to fuck off

If I liked Deus Ex, Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, will I like this? My biggest gripe with the aforementioned games are that I really really like stealth, and I felt that having the option to be covert, while also having the option to be overt, led to the games feeling like a somewhat mediocre mix of both. If they chose one or the other, the games could have been designed properly around one style, and it could have excelled. Of course, I enjoyed the games, and I enjoyed that they tried, I just felt that it left a lot to be desired for stealth gameplay.

>>717369204
Neither version would be good because:
>You can't fridge yourself like Rache did and hack the planet™ from the other side of the world (or in space).
Fuck them. I wanted a Netrunner paradise and instead I get a Solo module. Not even a fucking Rockerboy (Johnny), just a fucking Merc (Solo).

>>717363250
>>717363316
If this game took place at night for the entire game and it was constantly raining it would be a better game

I'm just mad that they didn't let us use the Bite dances in game. I wanted to experience virtual porn. They could have done a lot more with that.

>>717376174
I'd appreciate more dust storms or even fog/mist

>>717359375
Pfft ha ha ha, saved.

>>717375504
My argument is that the daytime looks like shit because they didn't bother to tweak the post-processing to make it look less shit, Anon. It's got nothing to do with the location. The RGG example was just an example, not because of the location, but because a developer that works primarily in nighttime (bars, criminal activity) started always doesn't tweak the daytime (Dragon engine looks like SHIT in the daytime) becuase they can't be assed to post-process daytime.

>>717376018
You have shit taste, so probably not.

>>717358171 (OP)
Seethe more.

>>717376018
No, they cucked invisibility in the 2.0 changes to just mean detection time reduction vs actual stealth or actually doing anything with depth like stealth working for non eye augmented enemies vs chromed out enemies like the maelstrom.

>>717361610
wasn't night city in the ttrpg dark as shit anyway because it was so huge that most of the buildings literally obscured sunlight unless you were on one of the highest levels?

>>717375228
>They delivered on ALL of those
kek

>>717376018
the game is VTM Bloodlines fused with Far Cry, not DE
I mean you can play the run fast, jump high, smack people with melee build of the first Deus Ex, but that's about it
stealth is encouraged and rewarded (more loot, more lore), but also completely overpowered if you spec for it
it's a solid game go get it

>>717358171 (OP)
>>717358214
This is basically a scam.

I've played this game for over 4k hours and I don't regret a minute of it.

>>717377653
Nothing wrong with having bad taste, anon.

>>717376408
The weather systems in the game are criminally underused

>>717377870
indeed, /v/ needs to remember that.

>>717377453
If the retarded investors at CDPR didn't try to shackle the game to run on PS4/XBONE we probably would've gotten what they envisioned. Every day I pray for consoles to die off.

>>717377653
>>717377653
I really like the game but wtf did you do for 4k hours

>>717379448
Hookers and Panam

>>717379617
Panam is a stupid bitch, honestly. If she didn't have plot armor then she'd have gotten her entire clan killed.

>>717367520
the only good guy in the whole game is a literal CIA nigger can't think of a more woke game desu

>>717379683
Shame she's your only choice for a straight male V playthrough

>>717381079
V is dying. Forget about women, do something that means something. Just fucking a girl means nothing.

I hope fucking shitskin edgerunnerfags spammers get burn in eternal hellfire

>>717381595
There's a guy in my town who rides a motorcycle and wears that yellow edgerunner jacket, I see him sometimes. I've tried to make contact but no luck

>cyberpunk
>look inside
>modern day california

>>717381749
good for you

>>717378615
>xbone and ps4 can't do rpg systems
You learn something new every day

>>717381770
They are about to split off the internet and AI is getting scary, so yes we actually live in the cyberpunk universe now.

>>717358171 (OP)
you could still see hints of what they were going for, potentially a crpg. like the choice between voodoo boys and netwatch could have had more interesting implications if they didnt chicken out

>>717381770
That says a lot about Society™...

>>717381965
disingenuous gigafaggotry as expected of a consolecuck

>>717382359
I accept your concession

>>717382607
You accept Microsoft and Sony cocks up your ass

>>717358214
>non-linear story
>life and detail
>advanced rpg mechanics
ah, what could have been...

Is Cyberpunk even worth playing now? I don't care about GTA, if that matters.

>>717367520
>does it have woke stuff in it
A ton, it's Cyberpunk
>does it portray woke shit positively
Fuck no, society is literally falling apart due to mass degeneracy, people are drug-addicted slaves to corporations

Is holding up a mirror in front of some crackhead's blasted out toothless face pro-crack? I'd say no

>>717384389
Yeah, it's a great game.

>>717363250
Holy shit it actually does look like Fallout 4, lmao.

>>717366302
>brown people with dyed hair and baseball caps
Wow, so cyberpunk! :O

>>717363250
Dunno if it's intentional but if so, the artists did a good job with designing a fucking ugly city that only looks good at first glance, which is enough for the corpos. Take a glance at that image and notice how your eyes/gaze can't remain anywhere for long, it's always being drawn towards somewhere else. Perfectly disgusting.

haven't played cp2077, is the city at least fun to explore

>>717385236
Unironically, yes.

>>717385716
What a shame.

>>717385553
Some parts are. Others feel horrendous. The DLC is a lot better designed in that regard but it's a much smaller area. Honestly kind of pissed they didn't design the DLC to be completely self contained because going back into most of Night City after spending time in Dog Town feels like shit.

>>717385553
Yeah if you're patient enough to just walk down the sidewalk and look around. If you need constant interactions then no. It's a very immersive world and it doesn't give a fuck about you.

>>717358171 (OP)
They should have focused on PC and never released it on consoles until years later with a goty edition, this way we would've had multiplayer

>>717385753
The Cyberpunk TTRPG aesthetic is fucking terrible, bro. There's a reason Blade Runner is the standard.

>>717385941
>It's a very immersive world
It's not immersive in the slightest. There's nothing for you to do to engage with the world outside of generic ubisoft style crap.

Where is he at now?

>>717385960
>They should have [...] never released it
Well said

>>717385995
>There's a reason Blade Runner is the standard
They had that aesthetic in the original trailer. Why did they abandon it? GTA V's release must've had something to do with it; the aesthetics of the two are too alike to be a coincidence.

>>717386180
Scan the advertisements on the street. Listen to what people say. Remember, you're not you in 2077, you're V.

>>717386261
Wow iylt's like I'm watching YouTube ads in the future!

>>717386261
>just scan the tranny advertisment, and you'll be immersed
Sounds like such fun.

>>717386234
You left out some words, anon.

>here's your cyberpunk city bro
What the FUCK were they thinking?

>>717386583
Don't you know Brazil is the most Cyberpunk place in the world?

>>717386583
Maybe someday...

>>717386583
A half finished planned resort town for the rich abandoned halfway through because the developers went bankrupt that is then inhabited by people who are unwelcome everywhere else is very cyberpunk to me

>>717386921
>the developers went bankrupt that is then inhabited by people who are unwelcome everywhere else is very cyberpunk to me
I thought the megacorporations were supposed to be too big to fail? They couldn't even build a handful of skyscrapers Where are all the megastructures?

>>717387239
Happens in real life right now, like this monument to hubris in LA.

>>717386456
>>717386489
You don't even walk around IRL, do you?

>>717387407
so cyberpunk 2077 is just current year california? lol this is why people prefer blade runner, that is actually cyberpunk

>>717387407
Real life isn't cyberpunk and mexican gang culture isn't cyberpunk either.

>>717358171 (OP)
I won't forget that Cyberpunk 2077 is the most kino video game I've ever played.
t. 35 year old boomer.

>>717387586
Post your top 10 favorite games.

>>717363250
Turn the settings up on your potato you fucking retard.

>>717387586
>t. 35 year old boomer
Sounds about right.

>>717363250
this looks like absolute shit, jesus

>>717387643
Is doing that going to fix the art design?

>>717387586
embarrassing
t. 38 year old grandpa

>>717387638
Legend of Dragoon
Shadow of the Colossus
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Dark Stone
Super Metroid
Yoshi's Island
Halo 3
Left 4 Dead
Guitar Hero 3

Cyberpunk was worth it for the secretary alone.

>>717389129
you actually went accidentllly gay for ANGEL MAN

rita my beloved

>>717388998
Wait, where's Cyberpunk on the list? Also, all shit games.

>>717389334
literally a prostitute. good thing she has exchangeable vagina mods

>>717358171 (OP)
>COMING: WHEN IT'S READY
So that was a fucking lie.

>>717389334
>random girls all look better than the only love interest for 90% of the players (panam)
fuck cdpr

>>717389436
I once overheard my gf complaining to her friend, "It's not fair, he's always good at everything he does" because we were at my friend's house and he had the new guitar hero, with top and bottom buttons and I beat him on my first try

>>717389210
I'm one of the few who had the ability to remember dialogue from a moment previous apparently, because I went to the woman first time.

>>717358171 (OP)
I like what we got but it wasn't what was promised.

>>717362798
There surely needs to be some sort of legislation specifically for false advertising of game features under existing false advertising laws. So many developers do this shit. Fact is they can lie through their teeth up to the finish line and then piss off the preorder slush fund and initial sales before reviews start spreading around and then promise to maybe sort of half deliver on what was promised at an undefined point in the future

>>717389750
in less than 5 years nobody will remember or care about how fucked up 2077 was at launch, because now it's a great game

>>717389797
It was genuinely fine for me even from launch. I had zero notable bugs throughout my entire playthrough. Closest I came to a gamebreaking bug was some floating trees near one of the motels.

>>717389797
lol

>>717389797
I'm not talking about the launch I'm talking about the reveal being far more open-ended and the game narrowing in scope further and further as the development went on and more was shown.

>>717358171 (OP)
im just mad that the main storyline wasn't like morrowind or FO:NV
like the whole thing calls for recruiting factions to your side for that assault on Arasaka
they should've pulled a botw, told you exactly where to go very early on
and then had it be impossible to pull off until you've upgraded your cyberware, and won-over a faction or two

>>717389768
Retards are lied to every day. It's called real life. The entire console industry is just about milking retards

Battlefield 6 is just battlefield 4 with less features

>>717389927
>the reveal being far more open-ended and the game narrowing in scope further and further as the development went on
I've said it before, but the insistence on voice acting really hamstrings these A/RPGs. It's just not possible to have those sprawling branching non-linear narratives we used to get with CRPGs back in the 90s and 2000s if you have to have 100 actors doing voice work. Any small re-write needs to be VA'd again, often at great expense, as opposed to just typing out some new written dialogue.
I really hope games can get away from this trend, though with AI voices probably being a thing very soon I imagine it'll get better but not in a good way.

>>717390019
Yeah people are burglarized everyday, and it's rightfully made illegal and prosecuted. The very fact that his behavior has become so prominent among devs and publishers is only more reason to punish it

>>717389927
They didn't lie. The prologue is in the game, like a facade covering up the unfinished mess beyond. I knew there was no way they could create realistic cities when Witcher 3 had such horrible NPCs

>>717389797
>because now it's a great game
It's a 6/10 and that's generous. Not even mildly comparable to the legendary game that was promised, which was the sole reason it sold so well in the first place.

>>717358171 (OP)
Already forgot

>>717390259
erase the marketing memories from your mind. Play the game. See the truth.

>>717390259
It sold so well because it's CDPR. They could've promised a dogshit game and it still would've done gangbusters after TW3.

>>717390327
fuck off retard

>>717390327
The truth? Does it still have only like three augments?

>>717390389
keep frozen in 10 year old events. never learn or grow. you are strong. you are enough.

>>717358171 (OP)
>>717358214
what is even funnier is that they said at the time that they wanted to make this game for a long time, but finally they could with current day technology and then when it released it's an unfinished buggy unoptimized game that deliver 10% of what they promised
I'm sure they wanted to make that, but were too ambitious and couldn't, similarly to peter molyneux and todd howard

>>717390481
Cdpr are professional bullshit artists

>>717390327
I was stupid enough to buy the game on release. I finished it once on release and got halfway through it after trying it again a few months ago.
The bugs were never the issue for me. The issue was that the game was just mediocre.
Minimal, tacked on skill tree, little to no interactivity in the open world, whiney voiced protag, okay story but I personally don't think it holds up for a second playthrough. Oh and even the fixed cop spawns and behavior are abysmal. Rockstar did that better over a decade ago.
>>717390330
Nah, some people refuse to remember that this game was being touted as so revolutionary that is was basically an earlier instance of Ubisoft's "first AAAA game" claim.

>>717390602
>Nah, some people refuse to remember that this game was being touted as so revolutionary that is was basically an earlier instance of Ubisoft's "first AAAA game" claim.
Everyone understands the context. I'm saying that even if the context was entirely different, it still would've sold gangbusters because of TW3.

>>717390602
>complaining about the cops
It's not a GTA game. If you play it like that then yeah, you're gonna be disappointed.

Has this game diminished your overall opinion on polish people, /v/ ?

>>717390709
I'm from the UK. My opinion of Polish people was already in the toilet. Pun intended.

>>717390709
wtf does Poland have to do with it? The game is in a shithole southern California city

>>717390709
Kinda? It was pretty low before, then it raised because of the Witcher games, then it fell to rock bottom with Cyberpunk.

>>717390709
I want to visit Europe sometime and I'm going to go to places like Poland, Austria, Albania, stuff like that. Not going to waste me time in the big city because they're gay everywhere

>>717390689
The fact that it isn't GTA has no bearing on how a police wanted system should operate. The police should pursue you, and they should behave in a way that is somewhat believable and (at least appears to be) intelligent. This makes the interactions with the police enjoyable for the player.
At launch the system simply didn't exist, with police simply spawning infront of you when wanted.
After three years of post launch development, the overall system has improved, which isn't saying much, but is still subpar and disappointing to engage with. The roadblocks was a nice addition, but the police AI is lobotomized to the point of it feeling like being chased by lemmings rather than a police force trying to catch a man that just through a grenade into a crowd full of dancing trannies at a street party

>>717390957
I played the fuck out of this game and never had that problem, because I wasn't pretending it was GTA.

Are the cops fucked? Maybe, I don't know. It was not an aspect of anything in my experience.

Cyberpunk 2077 sucked because it ditched the furry bodymods from the trpg meaning I couldnt romance a cute fox girl in it

>>717391191
it has a reptile guy but he has no story significance, you just beat the fuck out of him and that's it

>>717391025
You're fixated on GTA purely because I mentioned that Rockstar already did this mechanic a thousand times better and trying frame this mechanic as somehow being only relevant to GTA and irrelevant in Cyberpunk to deflect the criticism because you're too dishonest and emotionally attached to simply agree with my completely factual assessment of it.
There is nothing strange or unusual about a player provoking the wanted level to attack and escape the police in Cyberpunk, either purely for the wanted level of through interaction with the open world. CDPR failed to make this experience even acceptable, let alone good.

>>717391532
You're wrong. Totally wrong.

They have MAXTAX hit you if you just start kiling random people and making a big scene, but why woulld you even do that? Go play another game if that's what you want.

>>717390795
It's made by poles, you fagtard

>>717391737
>why would you play the game
to have fun?

>>717390907
Nice, you're actually choosing euro countries that are worth it and not the browned-up tourist traps like Paris and London

>>717391737
>They have MAXTAX hit you if you just start kiling random people
Yeah I know motherfucker, I actually engaged with this mechanic. This is funny coming from someone who keeps claiming that they barely interacted with the wanted system and keeps feigning surprise that other players are doing so.
MAXTAC runs around like headless chickens just like the rest of the cops. I've watched a line of about 12 cops all approach my exact location that they didn't observe me running to in a conga line. Shit is a fucking joke

>>717391931
it's not GTA and never wanted to be. go play a different game, retard

>>717391983
it's literally a shitty gta clone lmao

>>717391983
>resorting to repeating his own nonsensical cope
I accept your concession CP2077 tranny.

>>717392020
it's an RPG. GTA is not.

>>717392056
It literally isn't an RPG.

>>717392102
my cock,your ass rightnoe fool it's happeigin yeah

was good but need a major DLC to play again. probably wont replay till closer to cyberpunk 2. currently playing CRPG's on a craptop more than anything else

>>717389334
My fucking man
Rita my wife...
That one jaakr8xp cosplayer is 1:1 Rita

went back to playing it recently. i'm liking all the changes and new stuff. although, i think they changed the siren sound of police cars, i distinctly recall it sounding different, with much more of a deep bass whirr sound, kind of preferred the old siren.

>>717387527
>>717387569
It seems you're focused on your particular version of cyberpunk - the aesthetic. All the themes are current day realities extrapolated into the future with exaggerated aspects of that reality examining potential dangers of the current course of history. How that translates aesthetically is extremely up to the artist, as no single style definitively and objectively represents those underlying themes.

>>717393679
>no single style definitively and objectively represents those underlying themes
Wrong. Look up Blade Runner.

>>717393967
based

>>717393967
Yeah dude I've seen the movie(s), but that doesn't really disprove what I said about how the aesthetic is defined through the lens of the themes being explored through the medium of cyberpunk. Have you read any William Gibson?

>>717358873
>spherehunter gets a cyber-goatee
Fucking kek

>>717359375
Based

>>717393679
>with exaggerated aspects of that reality examining potential dangers of the current course of history.
So when does the story cover the dangers of liberal sexuality, transgenderism, race mixing, and cultural dilution via immigration?
>How that translates aesthetically is extremely up to the artist
No, when I play a game called "Cyberpunk" I expect it to look like all good Cyberpunk, dark, gritty, neo-noir, and not a modern LA slum with neon lights everywhere.

>>717394619
I'd say that the answer to both of your questions would be that the only person who could present the setting and themes exactly the way you want them to be is you or someone with the means to create it who will listen to you. I take the game for what it is without projecting my vision upon something I didn't make, and I think it means it's less likely to disappoint me.

>>717358214
Fpbp

>>717394619
Actually I think you could get pragerU or brietbart to fund this version of cyberpunk no sweat. Go pitch to some old billionaires with aligned agendas.

>>717395989
>Go pitch to some old billionaires with aligned agendas
You mean like the ones who funded Cyberpunk?

>>717396163
Sure! Although I don't think those ones in particular will go for your brand

>>717394937
>without projecting my vision upon something I didn't make
It's not my "vision" those are literally the hallmarks of the genre it's attempting to represent to and it fails at doing so miserably.
>I think it means it's less likely to disappoint me.
It's literal slop so that isn't a point in your favor.

>>717396391
Both what you consider hallmarks based on your experience with the genre and you considering the game to be slop are your opinions and irrelevant to my judgements

>>717390481
>but finally they could with current day technology and then when it released it's an unfinished buggy unoptimized game
Scope creep is a hell of a drug. That plus crazy mismanagement as suggested in >>717369204

I feel like the only good thing about it is the city. Everything else (story, gameplay, level design) is very mediocre. To be honest the game is very overhyped, but it's not *that* bad. They shouldn't have started the entire marketing campaign because people got too high expectations.

>>717396440
>based on your experience
It is a fact that Blade Runner wrote the book on cyberpunk aesthetics, and any game advertising itself as such should have matched or exceeded it and not replaced with an inferior style used by unrelated genres in an effort to appeal to fans of GTA.
>and irrelevant to my judgements
Your opinion is literally meaningless. The qualities of works advertised as fitting a certain genre are judged based on the exemplars of that genre, i.e., Neuromancer, Blade Runner, Deus Ex, etc, and not on your subjective opinion of the game you are clearly biased towards defending. If the game was called "Night City 2077," it could be seperated from this consideration; however, they decided to call it "Cyberpunk 2077" which naturally caused it to be judged based on what came before. Finally, considering what came before was better in almost every possible metric, it is perfectly reasonable to have expected it to be better than it is.

>>717396948
>Neuromancer
It is interesting how much stuff was lifted wholesale from Neuromancer by Pondsmith when he first wrote CP2013.
>Night City (Neuromancer)
>A narrow borderland of older streets, dividing Chiba Port and city (not clear if the city is Chiba City or Tokyo). It has no official name.
>Life in Night City is an intense and fast race for survival of the fittest; its black market has a fragile "tension" that requires an intricate protocol. Whether business became careless, lazy or slow, or too fast and daring, it is an unforgiven mistake. Those ending up dead, end up in the clinic tanks as organ transplants.
>Ninsei is its center. Cheap Hotel and the cheapest coffins (capsule hotels) are those nearest the port, beneath the quartz-halogen floods that light the docks.

>>717396256
>The evil corporate elites who funded Cyberpunk would hate your ideas! Therefore, you must find support from fictional rightwing billionaires so I can say you're just like them! Checkmate!
Right...

>>717381770
you haven't played the game

>>717394619
>I expect it to look like all good Cyberpunk
You mean you expect it to look like your expectations of specific entries in the genre of cyberpunk. You like Neo-Noir, and that's fine. A cyberpunk author like Bruce Sterling doesn't really fit your definition, despite being probably the most prolific of the genre writers.
CP2013/2020 (which 2077 is based on) has always had a "Style over Substance" approach to the aesthetic. A Hair-Metal-meets-Bowie-meets-MadMax thing. There's a whole section you can read about on the wiki if you're interested.
>https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Fashion#Styles_(2020)

>>717397114
Pondsmith is a black man

>>717396948
>It is a fact that Blade Runner wrote the book on cyberpunk aesthetics
Blade Runner is a neonoir film, not a cyberpunk film. It's only way after the fact that people tried to shoehorn it into the genre.

>>717398173
Correct but not entirely relevant.

>>717398173
That explains it

>>717366534
If you can assemble a team akin like Rockstar's RDR2 team maybe it's possible also no first person faggotry, make it 3rd person

>>717367026
Are you sure anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTHBrcFP-sE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LD5z3GmQRXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqtV9aqIDk

>>717386583
>>717386921
>>717387239
If you actually want to know the real reason.
>NC Holocaust happened: All the poor-ass refugees from the city center flooded Pacifica and started shanty towns, tanking the appeal of a fancy-pants resort suburb.
>The uneasy legal status of NC after 2023 and into 2045 resulted in a stagnation for investment, so Pacifica pretty much languished.
>By the 2050s the radioactive center had been cleared so money started flowing back in to the city. Thousands of Haitians were brought in as cheap labor.
>The rebuilding of Pacifica was going well until a massive underground explosion halted everything. Sections of Pacifica were walled off in the late 2050s/early 2060s due to this "gas leak explosion" (real reason was the Militech Cynosure facilities buried deep underground being breached on accident).
>2069 the Unification War happened and all construction halted yet again. In this interim period the dispossessed Haitians informally took possession of Pacifica West, and BARGHEST took possession of Petrochem Stadium and the Eastern suburbs.
>2072 NC tried to push the squatters out but the violence was immense and NC gave up. They cut all services to the area hoping to force the squatters to leave but didn't account for the resourcefulness of the VDB and BARGHEST.
>Bonus: NC debated selling the whole district to Kang Tao for $1 in 2077 provided the corp would quell the unrest and return the district to order.

>>717366534
you can do it with a good team of 200-300 people and AI slop in 2030, but it will cost you 9 digits (200 millions or more) and there are only a handfull of companies who can drop that kind of money (EA/Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo) without going bankrupt
You know that saying, keep dreaming

>>717366534
>>717399976
You can do all of this, but as I said here >>717390092 it's the VA which kills these games (and a never-ending pursuit for graphical fidelity). Drop the VA except for choice phrases or moments, and current studios could easily make this.

>>717396847
I feel like the worst thing about the game is the city. Combat's fine, stealth is okay, but the atmosphere is all off.

>>717364905
Microsoft just needs to give Fallout to a different studio.

>>717396163
Doing this right after Cyberpunk gained some good will back after Edgerunners was hilarious

>>717404625
I'm still puzzled how the anime even helped the game's image, considering Trigger had to fight to keep one character (I think it was the twin tailed one?) because CDPR wanted her gone for being too sexy.

>>717405076
>CDPR wanted her gone for being too sexy.
They wanted her to be gone because she was a "loli"
But the anime makers said either the loli stays or they cancel the anime

And well CDPR backed down.

>>717405252
The polish writer of the anime avenged CDPR's humiliation by ruthlessly crushing her in the final episode
it was very based of him, ngl

>>717359375
BASED

>>717358171 (OP)

Open world was a mistake
Daytime was a mistake
Random weapon drops were a mistake
Romance options were a mistake
Fake urgency brain chip was a mistake

>>717407782
oh and the niggercore soundtrack was a mistake

>>717366941 >>717367052
gottem

>>717367854
DADOES had the city described as a desolate, dead wasteland of architecture.

>>717364905
Not only that, USA was somewhat getting back on track during 2, as in you have New Reno with a porn/casino economy, Vault City and Shady Sands are fortresses with clean streets, energy field gates and sentry guns/bots all over.

>>717407782
>>717407862
This.

>>717358171 (OP)
ghay

>>717396163

>>717367601
>There's a lot of degenerate shit in it but that's the point
No it fucking isn't. Have you ever played another Cyberpunk game? Everyone knows degenerate shit is going on somewhere but the point of the narrative is to explore the human condition, not drown you in obnoxiously unpleasant imagery and noise constantly like this game does.

>>717410492
First of all,use less wordsl

>>717398229
>Blade Runner is a neonoir film, not a cyberpunk film
Oh yeah, because lots of neonoir films address questions of losing one's humanity to technology and corporatism, don't they? It literally started the genre, hence why a new term was coined for it. Nevertheless, I expect a game called "Cyberpunk" to keep the themes and visual aesthetic intact as a homage and not do away with it completely. All the more damming is this opinion implies you prefer the game to look like neon GTA V instead of something like Blade Runner and if true, you should kys.

>>717410492
That image is brutal. How did it all go so fucking wrong

>>717410761
I have to assume Blackrock or some other "investment" group came in after Witcher 3's smash success and started mandating "changes" to the original concept, hence the scope creep and massive tonal shift. Blackrock does own about 4% of CDPR currently.

>>717358171 (OP)
looks way too sci-fi for cyberpunk, im glad they went with the more grounded look that better represents the tabletop

>>717410852
Funny considering the trailer's night city looks almost identical to that image.

>>717410852
?
That cover looks way closer to the OP image than to what we got in the game

>>717410852
Uh...

>>717358171 (OP)
Did that even make it into the game?

>>717358214
They delivered.

>>717411070
You see that guy for like 5 seconds shooting some people in one scripted car ride in an intro mission if I recall the game on release.

CDPR are a linear story driven game studio that just happen to place them in open worlds for some reason. They suck ass at creating the kind of sandboxy mechanics & reactive AI needed to actually make the open worlds feel alive. Their NPCs are basically empty shells with pretty idle animations attached, there's zero logic going on beneath the hood, they lack interactive abilities that other games were doing 20 years ago.

>>717358171 (OP)

>>717410492
>in a shithole city
>IT'S TOO LOUD
>TOO MUCH IMAGERY
>AAAAAAA IT NEEDS TO BE QUIET AND POLITE AAAAAAAAA

Go to bed, grandpa.

>>717412309
>shitty music blaring 24/7
>brown people everywhere
>graffiti on everything
>every character spouts mexican slang constantly
I have good news for you, you can experience Cyberpunk 2077 for real! Just go to Brazil!

>>717411070
this >>717411142
and also you meet the cyberslut in a side gig

why the fuck is the base game so weird
what's with these 2 minutes long cutscene side quests all the time

>>717358171 (OP)
Funny how people are still hung up on this single piece of concept art that was made before the game even existed

I hope the sequel isn't so tryhard/edgy with it's endings. There's basically no good ending for /v/ on purpose. Some people will claim "but its mature!!". Is it really? That kind of negative outlook aligns with edgy teen views, not mature adults.

>>717413276
Yeah, some of the endings felt contrived to me.

>>717413276
I really lost a lot of hope in the sequel after what pondsmith said
>it doesn’t feel like Blade Runner, it feels more like Chicago gone wrong
Seems to me like the 2nd game is just gonna be gta with hacking. Very disappointing

>>717413114
>concept art
my brother you are retarded

>>717413276
>There's basically no good ending for /v/ on purpose
It was that way until the DLC came out and gave you a way to resolve everything in the best way possible
And ironically it's the one government aligned ending in a cyberpunk game

>>717413612
>resolve everything in the best way possible
death is unironically a better outcome than the dlc ending. state enforced normiefacation blows ass and thats not even considering how dogshit life is for regular people in the setting

>>717413612
wasn't that the one where they rip out all your augs and made you incapable of getting new ones so you're just a washed up loser who can't even beat up two street thugs in the end?

>>717413731
that's the one

>>717360232
Wasn't there an isometric one a couple years back that looked promising? I remember seeing the trailer and thinking it looked cool.

>>717413612
even that ending feels contrived as fuck, the way even your nicest ex-friends like vik & misty basically abandon you. It feels forced, illogical.

>>717414052
You don't even contact any of them beforehand right? Even though you easily could.

>>717375123
>>717367854
The fog from industry would've darken the city

>>717411113
a slop

>>717363328
I don't give a fuck, pussy. Cyberpunk is an inherently night time aesthetics setting and if you disagree, you're comically wrong and clinically retarded. They chose Richard NIGHT for a reason. Think about what that means for the themes of the setting and universe.

It should always be night time in Cyberpunk because the game looks best at night
I literally don't give a shit about any other arguments, if you make a point of how the sun will still exist in 50 years your opinion is worthless to me

I don't care if there's bright daytimes, but the nighttimes do feel oddly short? Like it only gets dark very late and gets bright very early. If they just made the nights longer I think it would be fine.

>>717366934
Yes, we really should, but I'm fine mocking the exceptionally predatory and obnoxious ones.

>>717390907
Poland is really, really nice in the cities. Krakow's one of the nicest places I've been.

What do normal people do for day jobs in NC? Everyone who's not a criminal, a suit or a vendor just seems to loaf around all day.

>>717401882
What don't you like about the city's atmosphere? I really liked it.

>>717418097
sounds like everywhere in the west. real answer, they're all the bottom rung of the corpo ladder probably doing menial office shit.

>>717362798
>polacks
The cyberpunk game they originally announced was canceled after the success of Witcher 3 and they started making it from scratch.
And at that point it was just another Western studio. All the Poles had left during the development of The Witcher 3 DLCs so the technical part was completed by Russian studio

>>717362089
No, it's because it was made by Richard Night. Just like most towns get named by the last name of the "founder" than change.

Old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why they changed it, I can't say. People just liked it better that way, etc.

>>717418927
>Why they changed it, I can't say
Because the English took it over by force and changed the name to an English town; York.

>>717390709
No but I will never care about paying gog a dime again.

>>717390709
My opinion of polaks is way lower than any game could influence me
t. german

>>717418298
t. russian trying to take credit

>>717418108
It's not grimy and shitty enough. I want it to be more like the anime, where the streets are just littered with disgusting lifeless husks. An average day in modern Skid Row is more dystopian than Night City.

>>717366534
not happening
battle passes are more profitable

>>717369619
>I wonder how shit the new Witcher game will be
Any game that's a sequel to used to be good games is going to be absolute trash. Just full of troons, nigs, and stronk wamen.
Enjoy Witcher 4 and GTA 6. They'll both show the new standard of awful we'll have to expect going forward.
I think I'm just going to take up drugs and reading.

>>717423181
I don't entirely disagree tbf. The game could've done with more scum on the streets, mental homeless people etc. But I think it could be argued that the reason the anime has more of that vibe than the game is because David is poor and therefore lives in a shithole area.

>>717358171 (OP)
the worst thing was all the bullshit they said in interviews that was going to happen like the gang wars will shape the map and they will change over time and it will be unique each time

that paolo homo faggot is the biggest liar of them all i dont know what that little shits deal is with lying on the spot about everything then the CEO came out and cried on the spot begging gamers not to suduko his company

>>717358171 (OP)
Dogshit game

>>717359390
Its very okay. How and why are some of you fags so into it?

>>717426428
Good graphics.

>>717358171 (OP)
The story is so extremly bland yet plebbitors love the story which for me is laughable.

>>717424657
they cut a massive amount of stuff. in the beginning, the whole montage you see for each path was originally planned to be playable, but couldn't finish it due to time constraints. then all the paths converge onto the Johnny timeline, where we start playing.

>>717428397
see you say that but they were saying this a couple months before the launch of the game so they knew it wasnt going to be in the game

I was so incredibly hyped for Cyberpunk. Even though they made some decisions I didn't really agree with (rap music, e-celeb cameos, etc) I was still sure it would be an amazing game.
In the end, it was abysmal dogshit. I'm not even mad anymore, it taught me a valuable lesson to not get hyped up for anything, ever. Now I just simply have zero expectations for any kind of media.

I thought cohhcarnage did a pretty good job in his role as the tinfoil hat guy. I actually got right to the end of his questline before thinking "wait I've heard this guy before" then realised it was him.