50 hours in and im kinda amazed, locations are gorgeous, weapons rock and leveling system is fun

Kinda just exploring each corner at this point already since there's so many hidden pathways.

Does it get worse?

>>717359180 (OP)
it is generic slop, at least Black Myth Wukong had the gameplay mechanics of Sekiro with a bit of hack n slash from Devil May Cry, but this game right there is straight up slop

>>717359180 (OP)
The last area is pretty obnoxious, but yeah overall good stuff.
If someone uses "slop" to describe something they're not worth listening to.

>>717359373
sounds like you got filtered bro

>>717359180 (OP)
Probably the worst level design I’ve ever seen in a souls like. The devs really took from the philosophy of ‘more is better’ here.

>>717359180 (OP)
took me 44hr to complete first playthrough with exploring every corner, tf are you doing for 50 hours
if you okey with janky combat - and it seems you are - then no, game is pretty good in every other aspect

>>717359373
BMW had a horrible level design with million of invisible walls on every corner of the map but also much better combat system so its really depends on which poison you prefer to pick

and both games suffer from silent protag brainrot, in both of them there wasnt a fucking single reason to make them silent because they arent customizable self-inserts

>>717359180 (OP)
Cloudspire Outskirts was the only area that rustled my jimmies with how obnoxious it was. Landmines, tactical nukes, suicide bombers and cannons was to much.

>>717359373
This game is way better than Wukong
>Actual level design on par with fromsoft titles
>You play as and fight humans instead of furries
>Grotesque designs not afraid to show real uncensored history
>Unique OC story instead of aping journey to the west for the 500th time
>Graphics are just as good

I find the weapons a bit too same'y within their own category and there really are just too few of them.

It's honglan time

Humans = weak to corruption
That echo that spawns icicles = busted OP on somewhat weak targets
Blight = super strong to delete 20% hp of a boss at the beginning of a fight

Unfortunately paralysis sucks

>>717359772
>and both games suffer from silent protag brainrot, in both of them there wasnt a fucking single reason to make them silent because they arent customizable self-inserts
AI limit perfected the autistic murderbot protagonist

>>717359772
>took me almost 50 hours to complete first playthrough
>tf are you doing for 50 hours
welp...

>if you okey with janky combat
How is combat janky? The combat in this game is miles ahead of elden ring's for example. And I'm not even trolling.
All the clash mechanics, feather skills, overall dynamics make it really fun

i need more games that pander to me

>>717359964
i tried to like axe but its so shit

>>717359373
The combat was fantastic in that one, it made you addicted

I also loved the last chapter where you could freeroam on the cloud like Son Goku

>>717361038
I'm enjoying it in new game+ with max strength and all pendants that up my attack

>>717359373
holy filtered

Mercury Workshop can kindly fuck off.
>haha, lets drown the whole area in a status effect that drains your health
>haha, let's then keep spamming a bunch of obnoxious enemies that keep decreasing your healthbar
What is this Miyzaki bullshit?

>>717362805
Don't stand around in corruption puddles?

Just beat the game.

+Combat feels good. Frustrating when you're getting dominated, but when you're in the zone you're dancing all over the enemies.
+The Might system is more engaging than a traditional mana bar.
+Free unlimited skill resets is a godsend.
+Fashion souls

-Madness could use some balancing. Almost completely advantageous to keep it maxed.
-Exploration might feel good, BUT you're almost always punished for it. Locks you out of multiple quests, bosses, summons, gear, endings, etc. This is sadly one flaw I don't think they can patch since it's the game's design. If there were branching paths each with their own unlockables, that would be better. But here, there's strictly a right way and a wrong way to do things, and they're often obtuse when the in-game NPCs straightup mislead you.
-I would've preferred Canto/Mandarin/whatever voices, simply for immersion.

Overall I really enjoyed the game, but I'm too exhausted to attempt completion. I'll definitely play any DLC they release, and hopefully by then they patch up the performance and QoL.

>>717362805
>>haha, lets drown the whole area in a status effect that drains your health
Not true, it wasn't even a swamp

>>717362871
I am TRYING to avoid them, but the ridiculous hitbox of those puddles keep inflicting corruption anyway, even if I'm nowhere near them.

>>717359373
>Black Myth Wukong had the gameplay mechanics of Sekiro
No it didn't.

>>717363045
Niggas just be saying anyting nowadays

>spend 3 hours on Vermillion not-Sephirot
>Kill Bo Magus in 2 tries and I would've got it in 1 if I didn't get cocky
>her shield let me 1 try the Emperor
NICE FUCKING BALANCE

>>717363029
>>717362871
Nevermind, turns out I've been running around in the Ming armor all this time that literally has negative resistance to corruption and blight.

>>717359453
But the only apt description of this game is that it's chinkslop?

>>717364686
lel, at least you realized. gotta watch that, good armor tends to come at the cost of resists.

the words "chinkslop" don't even mean anything

>>717359373
Is this a bot?

>>717359180 (OP)
why is this game cheaper than everything else?

>>717359373
>calling it by full name instead of just wukong
bot post

>>717363476
Vernillion took me 2 attempts and Magus took me 1. Emperor felt more like a miniboss

>>717366339
I'm told Vermillion eats shit to Axe but I was a stubborn nigga and wanted to kill her with the longsword

>>717359180 (OP)
from should totally copy the mana system of this game

>>717363476
I died countless times to this chick just to find out giving her bag to her crush just leaves her depressed, then one shot the bird mage and final boss.

don't ask how many times the white elder took, he was a motherfucker

>>717359964
>get stuck for a while on Honglan like many others
>on the verge of quitting the game
>would literally be the first soulslike for me to not finish
>pull through and finally beat her
>scared shitless about the fights that are yet to come
>to my surprise, relatively smooth sailing
>Perfect Bride only took a few tries
>getting the hang of this
>end of chapter 3: new brick wall
>have explored everything and NEED to kill Bird Bitch or Tiger
>on the verge of dropping the game again
>after a while it clicks
>beat both by the skin of my teeth
>read threads on /v/ - know about another Bo Bitch and Honglan Round 2 Feathered Boogaloo
>beat literally every boss 1st try except old white guy (nearly no damaged him after I finally saw through his pattern)
This game is amazing but it really takes a while to get the hang of it. Once you do, it's easier than other Souls games.

Fuck that centipede.
I don't know what I find the most offensive. That my character does only chipping damage to it, that its attacks are some hitbox bullshit that make the Fume Knight look fair or that it is a blatant ripoff of Queelag.
I am starting to get offended how much this game rips off DS1 almost beat for beat at times.

>>717367561
Centipede in a mine area is a Nioh 1 ripoff if anything.

Slop game.

Just got the axe with the crazy jump attack and cheesed the bird-faced bitch with it. Please tell me the rest of the bosses wont let me get away with that.

>>717367940
You can use this on most of them I think. There is 1 boss where it's recommended: You later fight a stronger version of your demon self and she literally cannot be poise broken or backstabbed. Was a pain in the ass to fight her with longsword.

>>717367940
axe is ultra based and you can cheese most bosses with the rampage healing. If the bosses get hard just use it and enjoy the game. Doesn't look as kino as duel swords or spears though

>>717362805
I did the whole thing with armor on that made both of the status effect there apply instantly, and only switched armor on the boss. It isnt that bad

>>717362805
>he's too stupid to equip full corruption gear
you're supposed to change armour for stuff like that. You also get unlimited corruption removing flowers so no idea what your problem is

>>717368085
Huh, I killed her on my 2nd try with longsword spamming crescent arc.

>>717368513
It's kinda fascinating how everyone struggles with different bosses in this game. I've seen anons complain about certain bosses that felt way too easy and had issues with other bosses that people breezed through.

>>717359180 (OP)
GOTY for me. There's a dedicated jeet squad against on /v/ for some reason.

>>717366240
He's probably not, just a schizo or a paid shill.
There's a hate campaign against this game, not sure why.

>>717362927
>-I would've preferred Canto/Mandarin/whatever voices, simply for immersion.
You can play in ching-chong though, do you mean you'd prefer these dialects?

>>717359180 (OP)
It was OK, but not good enough for me to keep playing. I'd rather just play Nioh.

>>717369306
probably just spammed enter at the start of the game and didn't change English to Chinoid because he's retarded. Also too retarded to look in the settings

>>717369043
Why don't Indians make their own games instead of shitposting everyone else's?

managed to beat it before the big patch... i guess its alright, though certain boss fights sure are annoying, as is bo capital

>>717370221
That's hilarious

Most annoying part of the game is the startup messages with epilepsy warnings and autosave icon. Shit runs like molasses.

>>717359180 (OP)
Locations are great, except for mines and tunnels.
They are dull, samey and way uglier than outside areas.
First time exploration is great, only trouble is that you can't really tell where you should and shouldn't go and in what order so you don't fuck up NPCs' quest lines.
Kind of common problem even for From titles.
If you're going for 100% completion / platinum, guide is a must, though I suggest save scumming for second play through because while the game is good, it's not let's-do-4-full-playthroughs good.

the most hilarious part about this game is watching axefags get completely lost when they catch one knockdown because they aren't used to timing dodges and running away to heal

>>717363476
Shield bubble is broken.
You can literally kill endgame bosses without suffering any damage because you regain Skyborn Might fast enough to continuously re-cast the bubble even if you fuck up some dodges.

What kind of gear do I want against Vermillion Feathers - Honglan so she doesn't twoshot me? Feather resistance?

>>717371536
I used full centipede set.
Worked wonders because it also has physical resistances not just for specific debuffs like most slut wear.

>>717371536
Yep and physical resistance. If you get chipped to much go for leech enchant otherwise fire for big damage.

>>717370278
>as is bo capital
I liked the part that you can just beeline it for the boss and ignore like 95% of the area if you're going for bad end for example.
Made things more bearable.

Where does the human boss gear vendor go in chapter 4? The one with glasses.

>>717371958
well... i only figured out that the long way round was optional only after jumping down and looping back around. dying in god knows where down there was just hell

>>717359180 (OP)
It's fantastic. And completely derivative. The best, genuinely competent Dark Souls clone. If you consider Dark Souls one of the best games of all times, for reasons that have more to do with overall game design than simply the combat system, and just want more of it, then this is the best all-around clone on the market. It does things that other clones, and even from themselves, have forgotten or abandoned, and it does them really well.

The combat system is really good, very solid with a few cool new little ideas and mechanics here and there. But there are other clones with combat and bosses just as solid or more fleshed out. That's not the main draw.

The real star is the level and game design. Levels are sprawling, maze-like, fulls of branching, winding, narrow paths, twists and turns, nooks and crannies, interconnected shortcuts and runbacks, verticality. Full of tension, falls, traps, hazards, ambushes and tricks. You have to engage with game mechanics and use the tools in your arsenal. You have to pay attention to your surroundings. You have to be patient and methodical. It's about overcoming obstacles and problem-solving.

And this is where things get confusing, because there's this shift in the fan base. Despite loud consensus claiming DS1 remains an all-time best/favorite game, in reality, consider:

Demon's Souls: 1M copies
Dark Souls: 2M copies
Elden Ring: 30M copies

Loudest voices in soulslike convo now only played ER, and have NOT touched DS1 or DeS. But if you're an og DeS/DS1 fan, you know what's been subverted (see Matosis).

When you see reactions to Wuchang, it all makes perfect sense. Negative complaints don't meaningfully critique the game design or address what it's trying to be. Low IQ shitters are simply complaining the game is confusing or punishing. Most of them not paying basic attention to anything and blaming the game for it. This is not critique, this is just them failing at IQ tests.

ER was cancer. Wuchang is chemo.

>>717370278
When is the big patch?

I dont give a fuck about "you didnt beat the game". Get up animation is bullshit

>>717372093
he's in annalum and so is wu gang, just gotta look around a bit

>>717372093
Everyone is in Annalum.

>>717372129
"As of today, we're aiming to launch Patch 1.5 during the week of August 11th. Once we have locked in a concrete date, we’ll let you know!"

>>717359180 (OP)
Any AAA game that releases without a demo deserves to be pirated.

>>717372129
Yeah I wouldn't recommend the game for the combat in its current state. I'll check out update next week and then we'll see.
I still enjoyed the game overall but the boss fights were not fun to learn.

>>717372129
>Get up animation is bullshit
?
Saved my ass many times when I fucked up and first sword shockwave knocked me down and remaining 3 flew over my not-dead-yet body.
You just have to lean to 'wake up' dodging following attacks instead of letting it play out and eating hits.

>>717372121
One of the only actually good assessments of the game. The jeets will just call you chang though

This is easily the most shilled game on /v/ currently.

>>717359453
>If someone uses "slop" to describe something they're not worth listening to.
Same with "obnoxious".

>>717359453
>last area is pretty obnoxious

>>717359779
>how obnoxious it was. Landmines, tactical nukes, suicide bombers and cannons was to much.

Shit like this is the core DNA of these games. Dungeon crawlers, three dimensional trap-fests. The terrain is your primary enemy. If you actually PAID FUCKING ATTENTION, none of these would be "obnoxious" AND you'd realize the FUN in the game design is about finding the ways to overcome these obstacles. You can SEE the mines in the snow if you take your time insteadof running mindlessly. You can bait and dodge the suicide bombers instead of just trying to fight them like every single other enemy, that means you have to ADAPT and use different methods, that makes the game MORE interesting and varied. It's also what creates TENSION. And what makes the game more unpredictable, funny, surprising than simply "roll at the right time to avoid attack". Dealing with cannon bombers in the distance or on elevated positions force you to actually consider the LEVELS themselves, not just the enemies. The terrain, the topography, therefore strategize about how to move, space and approach. Which can be done in numerous ways since you have varying tools and maps offer non-linearity.

If all designers listened to mongs like you, games would be nothing but pure flavorless convenience and mindless power fantasies where you'd just rush through flat empty corridors and press X to win against enemies for shallow dopamine hits. Go play DMC retards.

Also
>>717359772
>silent protag brainrot
How does that matter. 99% of the best games ever made have silent protags or are wholly non-verbal AND are better for it. Of all the things you could possibly bring up, you bring up the most shallow, non-gameplay non-game design-related thing imaginable that no sane mind would give a shit about. Dare talk about "brainrot". Go watch a movie retard.

Besides the bait and shitposting, shitty games don't get constant threads after one week into release with anons playing and talking about the game.
My wife Wu-chan has a fat ass and I love her.

>>717372121
There are some good points there but I wish the sprawling maze like interconnected levels served other purpose than to fuck up various NPCs' quest lines.
During my first playthrough I found the debris covered 'hidden' entrance leading to Mt. Zhenwu region and decided to look around before going through Cloudspire.
Broke like 3 or 4 NPCs, not that it mattered much since I was fucking up from the beginning, killed Centipede before Glutonous monstrosity and gave wrong item to slightly mad girl standing between two merchants in Shu Sanctum.
>>717373121
>1 relatively slow thread ongoing
>most shilled game on /v/
Not sure if retarded or just pretending.

>>717372121
I like hearing all of this. Where do the bosses and enemies align on this scale? More DS3/ER rollslop with feints and tracking or more grounded similar to DS1/DeS?

>>717359373
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
seethe

>>717371536
i used either ming or northern general, or a mix and mash whichever piece gave most slash and stab

just beat zhao yun in NG+ but it was my first time fighting him.
really fun fight, especially as a spear user. loved how he used a ton of spear skils. probably my favorite humanoid boss.
but why do i get some gay blight spear for beating him instead of his awesome ice spear?? i feel a kinda cheated

>>717374498
ah, eurojank souls. I've soft spot for it, must be the accent.

>>717373473
You really like to hear your self talking retardo, huh?
How much you're getting paid for shilling this garbage and pretending that ambush behind every fucking corner while you're wading through poison pool and 2 cannons, one archer and one guy with a gun are shooting at you simultaneously is some world class game design?
There's this thing called moderation, look it up.
Also the retarded bullshit about engaging with game is just that, pure bullshit.
You can just sprint through 99% of that ''''''engaging'''''' content while grabbing occasional purple or golden item, or chest once you finally get tired of 5 ambushes per second.
And before some of your imbeciles start to spam 'filtered' or other buzzwords, already finished the game 3 times, saw all 4 endings using save scumming during the 3rd run because game gets worse every successive playthrough thanks to annoying bullshit overload.

>>717359180 (OP)
Agreed, world design is really good. I loved the salty tears of the haters.

lol get shielded scrub

>>717373834
Yes that's annoying and too arbitrary. But I also don't like how Lies Of P for example completely streamlined side quests to the point where you cannot fail anything. I failed plenty of quests and missed out on optional content during my first DS1 run years ago and it didn't make me love it any less. I love unconventional/cryptic design but not when it dis-incentivizes and punishes exploring or has zero logic communicated to the player.

>>717373995
Sadly the bosses are rather uninspired, there are a couple of basic puzzle gimmick bosses but most of them are duels in empty large arenas with no level design. Most of the bosses are definitely more in the DS3/Sekiro/ER style in terms of fast pace and flashy combos, etc. but they're all fair and easy to read, they don't have insanely inflated health pools or cheap moves. I find them fun and satisfying, as pure combat encounters they're all solid, but in a generic DS3 way.

The thing people complain about the most in terms of unfairness is they can continue to string attack you during knockdown/getup, but this forces you to always prioritize healing to remain at max health in case you get caught by two hits.

But I also noticed most complainers, as usual, don't pay attention and do not engage with game mechanics, RPG systems or any kind of strategies for the bosses. They don't wear appropriate armor to counter status effects, they don't use additional health consumables or buffs, they don't use all the potential attack/defense synergies to focus on weaknesses, they never respec to try a different weapon style or try out different optional skills when different enemy types have obvious "rock paper scissor" strengths and weaknesses, they don't explore thoroughly in the first place so they miss important upgrades and tools in previous areas and come to boss under-prepared, they don't pay attention to the skill tree and how to use it optimally so their builds are shit and then they blame poor balance, etc.

>>717375028
>I hate it so much, I finished it 3 times

>>717375775
>but they're all fair and easy to read,
you can't be serious dude
i've only got zhao yun in recent memory but he has like 5 hit combo bullshit, a jump and then a instastab that tracks at 360 with pinpoint accuracy
like there's nothing interesting about just grinding the movesets and iframing everything and trying to find an opening for a backstab

>>717375960
There definitely is a lot interesting about learning a boss and finding openings in their abilities to strike back. It's not for everyone I suppose.

Game is pretty fun but I'm too tired right now to make any good progress on Bo Sorcerer. Gotta wait till tomorrow.

>>717376047
there is but I find it more interesting to have a battle of attrition, picking the right gear and stats and combat strategy to get an advantage
i would 100% rather die because I run out of post from playing like an idiot and not learning patterns than having said patterns 100 to 0 me in 3seconds where I'm completely overwhelmed
when you're in 2-shot range all the time, get hit and then on the defensive hitting 5 iframes in a row JUST to get a heal at the end it feels like ass

>>717376296
Maybe it's the FFXIV raider talking in me but I find it satisfying to learn a boss like that when the price of a mistake is high but only as long as you progress a little bit each attempt. If it's so badly designed you feel stuck that's when it's really bad, but always being one or two missteps away from failure is exciting and makes a victory more satisfying. It's a matter of balance I suppose.

>>717359567
filtered?

>>717359772
Isn't it because it's a chinese made game and CCP expects people to be quiet in situations where in the west there wouldn't be the same expectation? Or they git tiannamon'd

>>717376428
I understand why you like it but I like the monster hunter approach much more. I think nioh 2 while still being pretty brutal is more mellow in its balancing as well and I would have like the balance to be more like that, at least for the first ng cycle. If they want to introduce batshit movesets in ng+ then I'm ok with it.
I believe the first impression in a playthrough you give to your player is the most important because if it's too easy then they won't play more and if it's too hard they bother to play as well.

>>717359180 (OP)
How is performance now? Is it fixed?

>>717376808
It's the same and it's not gonna change. It's an UE5 game.

I just did Bai Kru and it took me like 5 minutes, does he have a ridiculous amount of HP or is my build just shit?

>>717377190
He is very tanky

8.5/10

I`m Wuchang`ing
https://files.catbox.moe/cbcvui.mp4

>>717376808
80 fps 5700x rtx 3060 1440p what else do you need nigger ? or are you trying to play on a fucking i7 3770 gtx 1070 ? you cant possibly be this fucking poor in 2025

>>717377272
Is it just so we hear all the dialogues? Yeah very sad but the boss is quite plain.

>>717377310
God I love Asian womens' asses.

>>717377310
Sorry man I can't hear you over the sound of you gargling on chinaman cock.

>>717377310
did you install the performance mod?
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/27?tab=files

>>717373995
I think the bosses are pretty in line with DS3 for the most part, mostly in terms of their moveset complexity and stuff like tracking, where they can turn to face you for most attacks and you will need to get good at dodge timing but there's also quite a few that they will whiff if you strafe around them and you can get hits while they slam the ground to your right. A couple endgame bosses are Elden Ring tier, but you have more options to deal with those IMO then in ER.

>>717377564
Not him but its a good game. Sorry you can't see that because China bad.

how far in am i, i just encountered FangLing, also this game really likes putting shortcuts to shrines slightly away from bosses i keep missing them before i die

did i fuck something up?
i beat the poise cunt and it told me to dream and receive a primordial beings guidance or whatever tf but i teleported a bunch of places to progress side quests and when i rested nothing happened?

>>717375960
I don't know then, either I finally git gud or this game combat is just clicking more with me for some reason. But I do think it's more generous with i-frames, feints, etc. I have shit reaction times/reflexes, had to grind memorize late-game boss fights in ER or LoP Overture. But in Wuchang I'm doing OK just observing, reacting and adapting gear/strat.

Also, an example but... in terms of strategizing during bosses, something I thought was cool and somewhat unique (closest equivalent is DS2), I haven't seen anyone else mention... I equip three healing types, the main flask (largest heal but slowest), the raven pill (medium), and bunny buns (fast heal, but low health amount). I'm not sure if raven pill and bunny bun have the same consuming speed. But, trade-offs. You get the implications. Gives you more choices.

And because of the knockdown/getup issue (whether it's a meaningfully intended mechanic or not or will be patched out...), it's critical to always be topped up. Even if you only take a small hit. But if you take a small hit in DS3 or ER or LoP, you don't want to waste a full estus dose, so you might wait and take the risk. Here you get to mitigate that kind of risk with more intermediate options.

But at the same time, that implies a secondary trade-off: you also may not want to immediately use raven pills or bunny buns, because they are not only your "heal for small hits" option. Due to their speed, they are also your "heal fast during emergencies" option. You don't want to waste those either. So perhaps, a small hit but with a longer opening, it may be smarter to waste your larger flask, yes?

And to complicate things, you have to mentally count and remember your usages now instead of just relying on the UI that only shows a single item. Because you don't wanna get stuck in the empty item animation.

So that makes healing during boss fights more pro-active, dynamic and strategic. Such trade-offs are excellent, subtle, under-appreciated design.

>>717377859
plenty to go. best maps are ahead

>>717377893
You have to reset for Fang Yao and the Storyteller to appear in the room, you can just dream at the same shrine
If Fang Yao isn't there you didn't give her the scarf when she was hiding in the city and so fucked up her questline

>>717377840
Try reading comprehension.
I don't know if it's a good game or not, I didn't make any claim about that. I called him a sissy for chino dick because he was unpromptedly overly defensive about someone asking about performance. Not even dissing the game over its performance, just asking.

>>717378017
there were two people there, old nigga talking about go to this "new" area and the bitch at the illuminated shrine area
but i didn't dream for that, maybe it just reset when i teleported back after side questing

>>717377859
Depending on if you're doing full exploration or rushing you could be about 1/2 way done

Finally...

>>717378285
based
nta but how long did it take you to get to this point
i'm at about the same place, just found the refugee camp and beat the 3rd(?) inner demon and i've played like 25 hrs

>>717377273
Honestly surprised how much gore and skellingtons China allowed, but apparently it's fine as long as it's portrayed as a bad thing.

How hard is late game in NG+?
I'm doing one, to get all the bosses I missed in my first run. But I am worried that I won't be able to beat them in NG+ due to their increased damage.

>>717359453
Slop is an appropriate term to describe some games. People just like to promote a newish term to a buzzword and run it to the ground.

>>717378349
bitch put on some clothes

>>717378349
Cute butt.
>>717378369
Most people beat the game in about 30-40 hours.

>>717378392
>mfw the bubbling woks full of chinks

can i play this chink game like i play nioh? aka, defence max with an axe and never dodge anything and still win by spamming charged heavies

>>717378496
damn i'm slow
probably overleveled too, p sure i'm close to lvl 60

>>717378405
NG+ enemies have 1.6x multiplier and ++ has 2.0x but there's stronger pendants and benedictions so it's unlikely to really feel harder and until the tiger none of the bosses have enough HP, the double scaling can kill you faster though

>>717378620
Oh. I didn't realize the pendants and benedictions were +
Guess that helps. Still scared of going against Mistress Yan, though.

>>717378584
defence isnt a stat but you can improve it by equipping armors. you need to swap it around often based on the enemy you fight. you can increase hp though. stats like str and agi barely improve resistances too but not by much. u cant target a specific stat to level up each time because all the levelups are done through the skill trees
>axe ungabunga
very much a thing

>Bound by Fate ending
>Check conditions of the other ones
>Only thing i missed for the true ending is the riddle gate at the bo capital

>>717375960
Then don't fish for a backstab. No idea why it's so common to blame the game and call it broken instead of acknowledging that either the player isn't good at it or they simply don't enjoy the game.

>>717359180 (OP)
Last soulslike game I enjoyed is Code Vein. Will I like Wuchang?

>>717378369
It's kind of hard to know for sure since it's been a bit, I'm trying to use steam achievement time to tell.
I think I beat Fang Ling maybe a bit over 15 hours in and it took me around 35 hours to finish the game.

>>717378985
sounds promising, guess i'll give it a torrent

>>717378584
there's an entire play style called clash that should be right up your alley and made for nioh fans, but it uses double blades instead of the axe and you cant just face tank

>>717379002
The Bound by Fate ending is the true ending I think anyway. I consider it
>Successor of the Bo
Evil or short ending
>Jarful of Medicine
Bad ending
>Bound by Fate's Threads
True or good ending
>Dream's Sweet Deceit
Extra or obsession ending

>>717379153
>it uses double blades instead

>>717379153
I haven't played it yet, but can't you face tank pretty good with the axe if you use leech tempering since it has extra poise when attacking?

>>717379153
>>717379201
Axe literally does the same thing?

>>717379192
Dream's Sweet Deceit requires extra steps (killing the Demon of Obsession and forging the ring of rebirth) so it's considered the "true" one but one can indeed argue accepting the real world is the better outcome.

>>717379303
oh shit really!?

>>717379340
Yeah, though it's closer to Wo Long axe where it blocks attacks mid swing and follows through.

>>717379083
Axe, and dual blades also get "clash" which basically is a soft block you get while attacking. And with dual blades, you can get life leech and defence while clashing.
In other words, you can just go full unga bunga, because some of your attacks counts as a block

>>717379402
I wish the longsword was like in Wo Long, it's like playing with a stick after those delicious charge combos

>>717379303
Does axe get clash as often as dual blades? And, isn't it too slow to get it regularly?

>>717379504
If you do NG+ with dual wield, use Blade Master and the Benediction that gives leech when earning Might the whole game becomes insanely easy.

>>717380130
That's what I'm currently doing.

Entered Chapter 4 and fucking hell i'm getting blown the fuck out by demon of obsession. Not only is fucking fast and hits like a truck it has a shitton of HP and fucking heals.

What the fuck?

Big fan of the "go back to the beginning but it's all fucked up" meme though.

>>717359180 (OP)
I hate that it praised here so much (like any gooner trash)

>>717380570
Have you played it?

>>717380440
Oh that's not the demon of obsession. That's just the weak version

>>717380570
The goon fuel has no impact on well people like the game and it's literally just fan service.

>>717380737
That's wrong. Of course, it has an impact. It would be a good game regardless, but watching Wuchang run around in her stolen panties, absolutely improves the game.

>>717380667
>That's just the weak version

>>717377273
I thought skeletons were b& in china

>>717380440
Use dual swords with the leech skill.

>>717359607
worst take on /v this year

>>717359180 (OP)
it gets better. the game is unironically a masterpiece to me

>>717381374
One of the biggest myths ever
They're only ""banned"" for foreign products (that is, not banned at all but something CCP comrades can use to deny a game made overseas sales in the country)

>>717381617
Love this game but I think it's too flawed to be a masterpiece. 8/10

>>717367283
Honestly, Honglan 2 and Bo Magus are way easier than Tiger and Honglan 1. Both took only a few tries. I think I got Magus in three.

>>717381617
In my overall top definitely. I wonder if there are unfound secrets and interactions

There's no way people unironically liked Lies of P more than Wuchang
I refuse to accept that as even a possibility
Best non-From soulslike (no, Wukong and Khazan don't count as soulslikes)

>>717372121
elden ring's open world with maps and teleport anywhere anytime are the natural conclusion of the direction the souls series has been progressing in, harder bosses and casualized exploration. it's not clear if fromsoft will ever go back to ds1 design.

>>717382750
there isn't a single boss from lies of P that I looked at and went kino, while wuchang at least has cool looking malenia swordsmen bosses. apparently the level design in P is really basic too. no idea how it got so much free marketing.

>>717383003
P's level design is trash. Fine game though.

why not barefoot with that anklet reeeeeeeeee

>>717382750
Lies of P:
+++++Music
+QoL and boss rematch
+Weapon combination
+DLC elevates the game

Wuchang:
+Free resets
+++++++Sexoooooo

Both have linear design, Wuchang just gives you permission to brick your playthrough. Hoping Wuchang gets QoL patches and DLC content.

>>717383515
>Wuchang just gives you permission to brick your playthrough
how so?

Haha! Get fucked!

>>717383538
Missing an early quest can have massive domino effects on multiple other quests, ultimately locking you out of certain bosses, gear, endings.

>>717383538
you can literally skip all of act 2 and go to act 3 and i'm p sure it skips over all the side quests you would do in act 2

>>717383684
>>717383697
guess i'll play this shit with a walkthrough then

>>717383730
meh that takes all the fun out
if anything just look up specific things like the doors that make you choose between 2 options

>>717383831
i don't think being locked out of content for not knowing the "right answer" in advance is a fun thing

>>717359180 (OP)
Buy an ad
Could've fooled me until
> leveling system is fun
What leveling system? It's just a generic skill tree with infinite respecs because the devs just copied every soulslike.
Game should've been more like an action game like Ninja Gaiden in that regard

>>717383697
Pretty sure you can go back and do most of the side quests, it just fucks up the order and makes you teleport all over the place.
I reached the temple in chapter 3 before realizing something was wrong and still managed to clear most quests.

>>717383892
Don't forget to break the carts that block a tunnel when you see them + explore it before continuing

>>717383697
No side quest in act 2 is conductive to any boss or ending afaik.
It's just Yonder Gang shenanigans, old fart, Nian Suichang and the taoist girl.

Now you need Fang Yao for an ending, but you can still do her quest even if you entered and activated shrines in act 3, so i'm unsure if there's a point in which you brick her.

>>717362805
Just run past enemies, my dude

>>717368374
Oh, that's what you were supposed to do?
I just rawdogged it

>>717383730
>>717384087

In my case, I was progressing on a quest, but I missed 1 of the triggers along the way.

I lost:
>the ability to summon the NPC for a boss fight
>2 additional boss fights
>key item needed for the final Temper slot
>armor set
>1 of the endings

>>717384087
>taoist girl
what?!

>>717384210
The girl that you first find at Shu Sanctum, having gone to "exorcise" the evils there. She's part of a 3-act long quest in which
she either goes mad and fights you or she just an heros after going on a rebel fucking shit killing spree at Zhenwu

So is the story happening in a dream loop or not? And if not why is it that even having all the chisels and the ring of samsara Wuchang can only resurrect her sister in what seems like a dream?

so nobody knows what the hell are those swords icons on top of each item?

>>717383905
It's idiotic posts like these that make me wish 4chan had a way to block individual users. When a person says something so utterly retarded, you could safely block him and literally nothing of value would be lost.

>>717384481
The moral of the story is Wuchang will never break free of the loop as long as she remains obsessed over her imouto,

Accepting reality and adopting sexy sexy Fang Yao is true happiness.

>>717384481
The point is that you shouldn't fight causality, plenty of bosses are the result of trying to fuck up with it, mostly by resurrection.
Bai Wuchang has two meanings here: first is the mythological soul reaper of Chinese mythology, hence why she goes around killing resurrection attempts and putting them down for good, and Wuchang means "impermanence", making her an agent of change, fighting against people trying to preserve things (dead people) against the flow of causality (being dead).

The most coherent ending is her finally realizing this and abandoning his quest to violate causality and resurrect her sister.

Haven't played it since I beat it but have been watching other people play it and I'm starting to get the itch again. I think I might start a fresh run with spears or axes...

How do I make the game not look grainy as fuck? I don't get it. I tried several settings already.

if your game looks like this i will play it.
end of story.

>>717384917
get a mod and or set the scaling higher

Look at me. I'm John Three Kingdoms now.

>>717384958
I tried 100% and it's still like this. What mod?

>>717384917
get the ultimate engine tweaks file from nexusmods and paste it accordingly to the description and don't forget to set the file to read only
and don't use fsr if you don't use nvidia gpu, use tsr instead

>>717384943
The first chapter definitely gave me these vibes, but actual ink aesthetic would've gone hard. Maybe not full-on Okami, but some of those Street Fighter ink splotches on hits.

>>717385058
still the king of aesthetics

>>717385081
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/107
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/5

>>717385201
God I would love a more another Sekiro with fewer consumables/bloat, the level design/exploration of Wuchang, and the Combat of Sekiro/Khazan, with more empasis on stealth a la splinter cell

>>717384514
And yet you replied without refuting even one thing

>>717385201
i should get back into sekiro

some day

>is the best Soulslike in your path

>>717385354
Both? Are these compatible with each other?

>>717385108
Thanks

>>717385597
lol
lmao, even

>>717385479
and you're a vtranny

>>717384349
Oh, yeah her
I gave her the centipede thing before I remembered there was a whole ass area across the invisible bridge
I assume that means she went bananas already
I wonder when I'll see her again. Just finished Bride.

>>717385597
>so bad I refunded it twice

>>717384917
optiscaler, then enable dlss from graphics options and use xess from the optiscaler menu. much better than fsr.

>>717385597
That game is dogshit and they did it twice.
Like they just repeated every mistake or doubled down on it

>>717362805
Dont let the other fags get you down
I hated the Mercury Shop too. The corruption shit's annoying and the spiders are even more annoying.
Also being early on and still figuring out builds sucked too. But once I got out of that place and leveled up more, I felt like the game suddenly opened up way more and Istarted to actually enjoy it.

>>717385540
>i should get back into sekiro
ive completed sekiro 3 times since elden ring came out. i still haven't completed ER all the way to the end even once.

>>717359180 (OP)
Fighting feels great, all places so far look amazing (the snow was blinding when the light hit it right, the sunsets at rebels camp, the hauntingly beautiful forest at mount Zhenwu), characters are beautiful, animations smooth - just by that it gets a solid 8/10.
Thing is, this is the best level design that's been developed in the genre since Bloodborne - every single hub area is so rich of lore, interconnecting pathways, even the freaking enemies tell a story with their positions & what they do with each other ... the game is perfect, you can even block like Sekiro, nevermind the cool magic tricks, combos, etc. I'm quite the fan of Fang Li's costume ... hehe.
Idk if it gets worse, but I'm taking a break - this is one game I definitely don't wanna burn out on, and the Bo Bird is gonna get it ;dd

Where's the old white robed fuck after fighting the birb?

>>717385540
>tfw still need to beat Isshin Sword Saint

>>717385959
>the sunsets at rebels camp
What? Is this a difference place
Rebel Camp is just part of the snow area and I never saw sunsets

>>717385717
Nice, I just had to shut off the game after progressively getting worse at Bride after playing for 12 hours straight. Too tired to track all the quick movements now. That giggly fuck will die tomorrow.

>>717385959
why do you write like that

>>717385767
>>717385872
why did they release the game twice? why not just try to make a sequel and improve there?

>>717385959
p.s. (sorry for samefagging) - they stole bosses left & right, there's Malenia, Genichiro, Taki & the Emperor's mother was so cool ... the fight with the bride, the story of her, the level, the atmosphere - it was masterfully crafted. It's righ tup there with the Guardian Ape, and that one didn't have the buildup and/or story leading to it.

>>717385820
Don't do this if you have a 9000-series card, just use FSR and set optiscaler to fsr4

>>717386051
there's more than one

>>717386101
According to my screenshot timestamps, it took me 47 minutes to finally beat Bride with Axe. 36 minutes of that was beating the first phase before I even saw the 2nd phase

And by beating with Axe I mean just using "Rampage" and literally no other skills.

>>717386225
fsr4 should work out of the box without the need of optiscaler in wuchang. doesnt look like he has a rdoa4 gpu anyway, so xess injection is his best alternative.

Wuchang owes me sex.

You know what I went back to check my timestamps for Mistress of Night too

Also 40~ minutes

But Ming General took me 56 minutes, fuck that guy

>>717386189
> they stole bosses left & right, there's Malenia, Genichiro

Wat?

>>717385597
wuchang, pinochio, steelrising, enotria are all 10/10

>>717386304
Lol, I spent like an hour with Flamebringer and that's all I'll be using. I can do it, just need rest because my reaction times have gone to complete shit and I can't dodge most things anymore. Brain stopped working during the last 4 or 5 attempts.

>>717386646
Steelrising should have been a coomer game

>>717386304
>>717386674
I just used Lashing Whip with leech needle for most bosses. Don't get tempted to parry her, focus on dodge and backstab. Took me maybe 4 tries. Phase 2 only took 1 try.

>>717385597
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717386645
not literally, but the inspiration is obvious - tell me the pond ninja isn't Malenia, or the opening of that frost general with the spear isn't like Genichiro's opening. The vibe is there, but more than different enough to be enjoyable.
The Bride remains top tho, I cannot imagine the game having a cooler boss. I smell Isshin on the horizon with grandpa-sama, the one who gives you crystals & hunts God knows what, but could be mistaken.

>>717386167
probably copied a reddit post

>>717386185
The first time it released, it was the first soulslike.
They thought people liked it I guess

>>717386167
like what?
>>717387034
what's with the insult? I just really enjoy the game & share the sentiment.

>>717386473
Oh, shit. Missed that on the driver update. Nice.

>>717386975
There's nothing original about Sekiro anon
It's all just ripoffs from China and Japan myth/fantasy

>>717386975
>not literally, but the inspiration is obvious - tell me the pond ninja isn't Malenia,
No. You might have a point with the winged version. But none of those things were invented by From.

>or the opening of that frost general with the spear isn't like Genichiro's opening.

Not at all.

>>717385959
I recognize this writing style

these soulslikes with actual level designs are starting to make me hate openworld slop so much

>>717359180 (OP)
>50 hours and not done
strange thing to lie about

>>717387990
i'm more worried about going back to r1/r2 slop with limited magic/weapon art after wuchang

>>717359180 (OP)
>kinda
>kinda
ummmmmmmmmmmm ywnbaw

i defeated bo magus, what do i do next?? the game told to to ender the dream, i did but nothing happens

>>717385959
>hauntingly beautiful
up there with "visceral combat" and "living, breathing world" for meaningless NPC slop phrase. Do better.

where the FUCK are my new costumes???

>>717387990
>nioh 3 is going open world
i truly hope they don't fuck it up

>>717388556
I'd love to say I fully trust them. But Wo Long really damaged my confidence in Team Ninja.

>>717388680
TN did pretty well with Ronin already, I just think that game was stretched a bit too long.

>>717388796
>TN did pretty well with Ronin
no they didnt lol

Hear me out

>>717386975
>>717386189
People like you are literal NPC's.

>>717389332
>game title is 3 randomly generated words
shan't

Yes or no on my chances of the game running well on my hardware? Or should I just wait for optimization patches?

Where the FUCK do I go in the snowy area bandit camp?? I lit the two bonfire things in the towers and then...???

idk? I've been wandering around for 45 minutes

>>717390109
i finished it on a gtx 1060. man up bucko.

>>717390304
theres a third tower light it up

>>717390446
where

>>717390478
you can see it from the second tower, follow the path to it, at a fork going left is the rebel camp, right is the third tower

>>717389332
Waiting for a sale. I heard they fixed it. Steam reviews are positive now.

>>717389332
It's pretty good now. Was a bit of a mess on release.

>>717390109
just pirate it and try it out retard

>>717390478
There's a total of 4 towers. Climb the last one and look around from the top, then go in the general direction of the next one.

>>717390712
>>717390912
I have 3 versions of this game. Release, after a big patch, then latest version on steam. I unironically like the release version the most. It was the most unique, no lock on, no leveling, with original art direction. The newest version changed a lot visually and feels too much like souls game. Still great, but I'd torrent release version if you can.

So, beat the game today. Watched a lore video to explain what the fuck I just saw.
The Bo were actual people from ancient China that the modern day Chinks genocided to extinction?? And they portray them as objectively evil demon birds banished to the underground? That's fucked up. The coffins being based on their tradition is kinda cool tho.

>>717391242
Many cases bro.

>>717390478
Use your eyes. The map is not THAT complicated to the point where you're running around for 45 minutes. So many people have come out of the woodworks to display just how fucking retarded they are. Do you have a working memory? Do you have eyes? Do you have the ability to read? Holy shit, man

So I'm at Avian Marsh fighting Bo sorceress. Can I still do the white robed dude's questline without summoning him for it? I want to do every fight without summoning, and he makes it piss easy.

>>717392421
He was of zero help to me. He died. If you really want, just summon him and let him die. He'll get obliterated by the bubbles

>>717392421
Dude is straight worthless as a summon. I finished his quest without beating bo sorcerer with his summon.

>>717392421
>>717392624
I found it useful to summon him during the phase transition. Trying to do so at any other point is a liability though.

>>717392624
>>717392580
Ah cool. I'm using a longsword and pretty much just fish for obliterates, so him being a distraction trivialized the fight. I actually quit out so I wouldn't beat her that way. I'm glad I don't have to summon.

Got all 4 endings and bosses and finished NG+++ 9/10 game
Would've been 8/10 but gets an extra point for making shitters seethe
Wonder when the NG cycles stop

>>717392580
>>717392624
Zilong came through for me.

>>717393105
Why is fucking everyone using longsword

>>717359180 (OP)
LMAO ChatGPT shill

>>717359180 (OP)
Did this game flop so hard that they couldn't even afford to hire real human shills?
>>717315427

we truly did get the true ending in wuchang: fallen feathers...

>>717393242
>>717393409
GOOOOOOOD MORNING SAAAR

>>717359180 (OP)
>>717393242
>>717393409
THis is embarrassing LMAO

>>717359373
BMW plays absolutely nothing like DMC even at its most actiony. Also I know you didn’t play the game because there’s nothing Sekiro about the game at all. Nice false flag though you stupid faggot retard.

>>717359180 (OP)
Yeah the game is fucking great minus its performance issues.

>>717372121
I loved ER and mostly agree. The problem is that Wuchang is fixing an issue that mostly old heads of the genre miss that new heads don’t give a fuck about. The fact that level design being deep and sprawling was brought up as a negative shows me that there’s been a legit split in the base. This is also on top of the people bitching about places like Brides location or some of the hazard areas. I thought people wanted the tension of those places? Lies of P and Khazan both do poison swamps but the tension surrounding those spots aren’t even close to being as ridiculous as the one’s in Wuchang.

>>717393202
Canon weapon

>>717394824
Mercury shop sucks dicks and it’s too early in the game
Switch that with the mining tunnels in Cloudspire and I guarantee there’d be less complaints since you’ll actually running a functional build by then

>>717393242
>>717393409
>>717394061
good morning

>>717393105
>controls UI still on
>easy mode (longsword)
>summoning
>still eating shit the whole webm

>>717393202
It's fun

>>717373995
>>717372121
While I think that Wuchang is just alright, I have to agree somewhat.
In ER the bosses are big and move very fast, they're on crack. Meanwhile the player character didn't evolve as much as the series progressed.
Wuchang is more like dodge/rollslop but at least you're faster and mobile.
Sure, it's just iframes but still. The hitboxes in this game aren't really good either but the timings are also very lenient.

The bosses are so far are all kinda different. I like the idea but the execution sucks.
For example, at the low point of the game you meet the Commander bitch. It's supposed to be this cool 1v1 battle but it kinda sucks. Her attack damage is very (maybe too) high and you're supposed to parry her (at least 1st phase) but you can't parry those fist/kicks so you parry, hit 1-2 so you're not stuck in an attack animation and dodge the fist/kick attack. Also she basically has 0 windup for her tells, it's just too fast when you're close. It feels more like a lame Sekiro boss and you have to unlock/equp the parry skill
But then you have bosses like Big Tree where you just dodge and blast it with the fire magic got earlier. Or the bird lady who is just zooming around and barely has stagger build up and a lot of hp, you can just trigger a stagger by attack her from behind. So you just dodge her strings and hit her back.
It doesn't matter which way you skilled because you have infinite respecs anyways.
So the whole level up/build mechanic is just bullshit.
Should've been more like a classic action game where you unlock more skills or increase weapon powers.
I really enjoy that some bosses have such strong weaknesses but it feels conflicting at times with the respecs.

It's a solid game

>>717359180 (OP)
Fucking stupid shill, i swear

>>717359180 (OP)
Put on hold for the week, but chapter 2 felt like downgrade that barely rewards exploration

>>717396242
Is there any memorable bosses and character like Fromsoft game? Like, it been 10 years but people still remember Isshin, Owl, or Malenia, Gwyn, Nito whatever

>>717396454
Not yet, at least for me.

>>717359180 (OP)
i like it a lot. it has just enough going on with combat, which has really fucking awesome animations, to make it feel a bit more like Nioh to me. the weaving of skills and magic without having to worry about consumables and stuff (you consume a power-up which is easy to get from both defensive or offensive actions, not limited reagents on mana)
i'm probably in a bit of a minority to most trying a "soulslike" like Wuchang though. i like Nioh2 more than any Souls game, i'm not the absolute biggest Souls fan, and I don't like a single other Soulslike.

the levels are actually fun to explore and feel like classic video game design. they aren't too labyrinthine or an absolute ball ache. and whilst its grim and gore-y, it's kind of chill, it doesn't feel like it hates the player.
yeah it has some typical corner jumps, but generally it's not gonna be some 1HKO that loses you hours of progress. the traps are easy to notice, it well lit and the paths are easy to figure out.

but maybe the most lacking aspect is hitboxes and telegraphs. you're very mobile and enemies do have huge recovery, and you do have easy access to weaving weapon skills with iframes/autoparry for example, but yeah just the basics of clearly seeing the timing for an attack and dodging is pretty fucking bad.

i can totally see it being like 6/10 for some as yet another soulslike - but since its more of the side of my preferences it bumps it up to like a high 7.x or more - more nioh/martial arts mechanics and animations, sexy asian women, eastern folklore/horror theme and enemies, not too stupidly difficult, etc

>>717393097
NG+++ is next level. Maybe required however if not save scumming

>>717396454
Nobody remembers 10 year old bosses unless it’s an actual dark soils thread

>>717396929s
What do you mean?

>>717359373
The bosses In wuchang are harder, that's all i can say about that

Damn, that bird was a bitch and a half to beat. Had a ton of fun though. Legit the best boss of the game so far.

>hey remember madness from the popular Fromsoft game Bloodborne?

So they just put everything from every soulslike in this game?

>>717359180 (OP)
MEIRA?!

>>717398912
You mean Insight? That has absolutely nothing to do with the Madness mechanic in this game.

>>717359180 (OP)
How's Wuchang's Mouse and Keyboard controls?

love fang yao so much it's unreal

>>717400436
there's some retardation but it's a soulslike so you just lock on and press left click

heres a good poast https://steamcommunity.com/app/2277560/discussions/0/600784815203144489/

>>717398912
Madness is from Elden Ring. Bloodborne has frenzy.

>>717395674
Mecury Worshop was based as fuck and that’s not even the most annoying spot in the game. Those fucking corrupted summoners that can infinitely spawn ads were fucking bullshit. But that shit is fun. That’s the whole god damn point. This is the tension we want. I don’t wanna have cake walk sections I want to be annoyed I want to get mad I want to feel frustrated. These games aren’t CAG’s they shouldn’t just be hallways to bosses.
>>717398912
Frenzy is easily one of the most aids status effects in gaming period and that’s why I fucking love it when these games do it. AI Limit had their own version of Winter Lanterns too and it was great. Tension is fucking great I want these games to spank me. The issue is when the devs have no idea how to do enemy placement and just copy paste ads everywhere. This is why people hated Lords of the Fallen when it first dropped.

Wuchang much liked Lies of P and Khazan understood good enemy of placement so clearing out zone feels rewarding because then you can chill and run around looking for secrets.

>>717401836
not everything is from fromsoft retard bitch

>>717401843
I liked the lotf enemy ganks tbqh. With the ultra greatswords with the right build it was like playing musou game.

>>717392624
>Dude is straight worthless as a summon.
lol what were you even doing
he flawlessly tanked the 2nd phase to the point I didn't even really need to do it just did a couple backstabs and that was that, barely even took damage, that old coot

do you faggots seriously summon for bosses and feel no shame

>>717402190
Lore summons are absolute fucking kino, imagine fighting Yhorm without Siegward or Bayle without Igon

>>717402190
summons are hard mode raterd

imagine losing access to gaining dragonborn might from perfect dodging because the ogre is focusing the summon

thats called hard mode idiot. if you didnt summon you didn't beat the game

>>717402190
>m-muh Souls cred

I'm going to start it pretty soon, but I've heard mixed reactions. Some say it's really fun and they love it, and others said it was garbage and boring.

I'll just have to play it and decide for myself at this point.

>>717402551
its fun if you arent shit at video games

>>717402551
DS1 gods love it, others are filtered by it

I think the levels and moment-to-moment gameplay are best-in-class, truly astounding. The bosses are complete and total ass.

i fucking won

>>717402605
>>717402661
Is sword viable? I'm kind of a "sword guy" I like Chinese swords and katanas. I know the game doesn't have katanas, but I'm just asking if one handed sword is a good weapon. I don't like using axes and spears and shit like that. I know a lot of games are like "Hey, we're giving you multiple weapons to use!" but even then, I use the sword if it's available. In Nioh I basically mained 1kat and 2kat and also gauntlets because of how fun it was.

I've always been a "DEX" player I guess in general. Never cared for STR weapons or heavy stuff, so just hoping the "DEX" weapons are viable in general. Chinese swords are cool in their own way, not as neat as katanas, but maybe we can blame anime and the Japanese culture for making them like that.

Do I need to summon the Elder for the Sorceress fight to progress his quest?

>>717402840
Get a job, lose weight, shave, get a haircut, take a shower, and go for walks through nature in the sunlight.

>>717402964
1H sword is basically a magic wand
It can't reliably knock down without a certain spell and the best early to mid game one-hander is a deluxe edition DLC
You're gonna struggle trying to bruteforce the game with the lil knife

>>717402987
No, you're never forced to summon to progress

>>717402840
>>717402840
something is missing

>>717402964
1h sword is more than viable, it gets stronger and stronger as you progress the game. but its best used with spells else you'll be doing quite low damage physically, so this isn't exactly 1kat. there's a dual blades option but its more of a face tank than 2kat. the starting long sword is like a balance between the 1kat and the odachi

>>717403056
>>717403084
The duality of man. I don't know who to believe!?? So what weapon would you suggest I start off with? How many sword types are in the game? I thought it just had like a one handed and a dual wield option, also maybe a two handed sword option but I figured that was a STR type weapon? I'd rather not use those kinds of weapons. That other anon made it sound like most DEX weapons are shit in the game, which makes me nervous.

>>717403076
hehe another save scummer bites the dust

>>717403208
Look man respeccing is free just try and see whatever works for you, I would say every spec is viable but some might struggle on some enemies compared to the others

>>717403208
you get spear, axe, dual blades, longsword, and 1h sword. the DEX weapons are going to be 1h sword and dual blades. both are OP in their own way. in fact each weapon is OP in their own way when used correctly in situations

>>717397117
People only talk about them in spuls threads. No ones gonna pull up Isshin in any other thread.

Malenia is probably the most memorable in recent times however and I'd say Zhao Yun is in part inspired by Isshin (the arena, spear weapon, whack moves etc.)

>>717403451
Is a "longsword" not just a one-handed sword?

>>717403529
no its a 2h sword, swings a lot slower

I'm up to zhenwu temple and I still haven't found any axes other than the starting halberd. Have I somehow just missed a bunch or is the weapon pacing just fucked

>>717403629
there's an axe in chapter 1, its on the rooftop above the fire bird guy in the courtyard you meet for the first time. i'm at end of zhenwu and i have 4 axes

>>717403529
In western terms a longsword is a 1h weapon but clearly they use the term differently in chyna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IehoWuH20dg
kino...

how the fuck do I get to this "bandit leader" boss I seen people talk about? I went to bandit camp and lit the 3 fires, I fought and killed the spear ice guy and now I explored that snowfall town and am near the snowfall palace or something?

is this the right way to get to the bandit boss..?

>>717394149
>image

source? love the thighs and belly

I'm just gonna go 1 handed sword, and if it's shit then I'll probably stop playing the game, unless I can find another weapon that I somewhat like. They should made all the weapons "viable" or at least to a certain degree. It's not really fun for people that like to use certain weapons if said weapon is purposely made to be garbage without relying on "magic" and "spells."

tfw no capcom-styled ingame model viewer

unreal devs really lack creativity

>>717404602
He's in the back of the camp. You can summon Nian Suichang (het guy) for him.

>>717404602
climb down a well in the camp which is at the end before it loops back to the entrance

is this game a poignant example of the soulslike community being absolute shit at boss fights?

>>717404794
I see the well...there's no way to climb down it?

>>717388796
I like Wo-Long. But Ronin was genuine slop.
Literally just a copy+pasta ubislop game, with lacklustre combat tacked on.

>>717404690
1h + magic was what people used a week ago before the learned how to play. I don't use magic at all. I stack skyborn might with shimmer and clash and then use heavy attacks. It's much more intense and fun.

I've got lost in the snow village place with all the unlockable ladders.
When I respawn I have no idea which direction I should go in to reach my souls.

>>717405061
I don't like STR and heavy weapons, granted I'm not shocked that they do way more damage, or have higher damage potential/combos.

>>717359180 (OP)
I like a good boss fight but how's the level design and exploration? Exploring and finding items/weapons are the best parts when I play souls games.

>>717405082
That might be the best outfit in the game. The cloth is rendenred so beautifully. It looks fantastic billowing in the wind.

>>717405130
You'll probably like dual blades

>>717405169
Level design is the best part. They fucked up making it possible to fuck up several quests if you explore the wrong area early, though.

>>717405130
that's the neat part, I'm not using heavy weapons rather dual blades and a weapon skill that grants faster attack combos. literally spinning around like a madman melting enemies away. It's really fun.

>>717405169
Level design is the best part about the game. It's branching, and interconnected, much like early Dark Souls.

Newest AMD driver update seems to make this run a bit better bruvs jfyi

Where can I get some jade pendants that work well the fire longsword? I assume there's just flat "increases fire damage" pendant somewhere but all the pendants I've found are mediocre as fuck so far

help me out firebros

>>717406193
is putting wuchang pendants into google too much these days
alright I'll spoonfeed
pendant that boosts fire damage is in Zhenwu, it's on the Buddha statue near the shrine where the drunk guy is, you have go through most of the temple so you can get to the rooftop of that building and drop onto the statue from up top

just Evasive Maneuver bro

Wish the OST wasn't so generic. Some of the creepy ambiance tracks are decent at least

>>717406976
if you think cradle of the abyss is generic you are genuinely retarded

>>717407056
Have not beaten the game yet but I am 30 hours in and so far I only remember the music from the underground segment in chapter 1

>>717406976
Ehhh boss tracks feel good in the moment
Not the kind of material I'd listen to separately but it's serviceable

guys, you know what to play after wuchang.

>>717403512
>People only talk about them in spuls threads. No ones gonna pull up Isshin in any other thread
People are still talking about Isshin and other sekiro bosses everywhere though

This trash is dying faster than Khazan: The first tranny LMAO

>>717407515
How is it? I do enjoy the occasional Spider jank. I'll probably buy on sale and cheat the moment it gets slightly inconvenient, though.

>>717407786
>people beat the game and move on
woooaaahhhh
kill yourself, it's preferable to shitting in a river, trust me

>>717407786
and yet you're seething over it?

>>717359180 (OP)

>>717407831
it's pretty fair so far while still offering a challenge. i'm using a heavy secondary weapon and it staggers even the biggest guys leading to pretty easy fights if properly timed. on top of the typical soulslike stuff there's a metroidvania element and you can properly jump & mantle leading to pretty interesting exploration. there's also a sense of freedom because the game gives you multiple main missions, each of them in a different location, and you get to choose in what order to do them.

>>717406772
is that shit only available on a single sword? because if that's the case I'm using it the whole game

>play mage
>boss suddenly sucks all my projectiles
fun

>>717408931
Sounds cool, the fantasy revolutionary France setting is also appealing. I'mma give it a go.

>>717398060
>people beat the game
lel
https://steamdb.info/app/2277560/stats/

>>717407786
Ok. So what?

Steamstatfags should be permabanned on sight, the absolute most annoying low IQ niggerposters on 4chan ever

forced high heels killed this game for me

kek

>bamboozling

>nooo you can't revive the dead! that's bad!
>why? because it just is okay!

is there any spell i should use if i dont spec into feathering/magic at all?

>>717410607
the one from panda is really good for utility. straight up reduces all dmg received by a ton

>>717410607
damage reduction, healing seal and bo magus bubble don't seem to have actual scaling so they're probably all goodge
since weapon scaling only goes up to 50 per stat on the lotus display I would still put some points into magic and feathering whenever there's any free because that also gives you defense against those

>>717359180 (OP)

>>717407786
You do realize most of the sales will be on PS5?

>>717410676
I need to get into using this with my axe build. I could be recasting it after every light combo. How long does the spell last? And is there an active spell icon I am missing? I never know when the defense spell or blademaster has finished.

>need the achievement for summoning a npc during boss fight
>npc summons have actual new dialogue post boss
just noticed that Nian has additional dialogue after the priest boss fight, now I have to summon them whenever possible, gonna do it on a new run though

>>717412012
u should see it in bottom left as a tiny icon when its active, no idea about the actual duration tho

>>717410601
Well it's the mandate of heaven, innit? Find peace with it chud - defilers of causality will be punished.

>>717412021
>Not looking for the optimal moment to tactically deploy your npc ally during a boss fight to make the event more kino and provide additional dialogue afterwards.
You didn't beat the game.

>>717412750
so far only summoned for the Bo chick, fight would be too long otherwise

Clash is really balanced.
Also, how the fuck do you make webms under 4mb without them looking like this shit. I see people posting 1 minute long webms with good quality. I can't. Tried reducing bitrate, resolution etc etc. Nothing works.

>>717413313
Is this NG+? Did I miss a lifesteal rune? Because I didn't have lifesteal by that point in NG

>>717413581
Yeah. It's NG+
I missed out on 4 bosses in my first run. So I'm doing NG+ to get those. Thought I might as well try the meme build for it.

>>717413581
There is no life steal rune but life leech temper from skill tree

>>717413313
i think this game is biased towards long swords. Parrying and clashing is so easy with it compared to the other 2.

>>717413965
I'm not using leech temper in that webm. Dual blade has a discipline buff that gives you leech on clashes

>>717413965
Iirc there 2 stones that give you hp for attacking from behind and executions.

>>717413983
Nothing is easier than spamming Evasive Maneuver every two attacks to be virtually untouchable. However longsword still has the edge because the damage output is probably better.

Should I upgrade 2 weapons or focus on 1?
I realized there are different stats in each weapon skill tree.

>>717414280
You should claim early +5 nodes in different specs then focus on utility and your main, but late game you can branch out easily. Nodes you can +1 multiple times are a scam because you could be progressing towards more +5 instead

>>717359453
it's overused for sure but it's a perfect description for generic oversaturation of everything lately.

>>717414280
I thought it was better to focus on 1 weapon the first playthrough because the upgrades are all shared plus limited resources. You can have 2 long swords at +8 and use weapon switching buffs or 1 long aword +8 and a weak spear at +0 that does no damage.

>>717414812
There's enough resources to +10 two weapons in one play through if you so want

>>717414975
That's hard to do for a first playthrough I imagine. Without a guide you will fuck up the quests and doors.

>>717411802
Steamniggers never think beyond their little PC statistics page.

>>717359180 (OP)
I've heard mostly mediocre things, and the difficulty's apparently a rollercoaster of constant ups and downs that don't make a lot of sense.

>>717415261
Also shit like
>durr player count cratered after a month dead game
As if single player games aren't literally designed to end
Chartfags are maximally retarded

Does this brick my quest, or just give an alternative ending for it, if I don't reunite him with the gang?

>>717416073
second option bricks the questline

>>717409407
17% is high for a game like that damn

>>717416139
Huh!? Doesn't that just send him over to the gang?

>>717416267
his master is the tailor, Shen is the gang leader
explore/read/nigga

>>717416139
That's not a "brick" retard that's a failed state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kng4ZsDuIXc

Holy shit FUCK Commander Honglan.

>>717411802
>You do realize most of the sales will be on PS5?
>WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers (#9) sold 291 K copies on PS5 in July, in just seven days. To date, WUCHANG has sold 326 K on PS5 and 660 K on Steam.
Get with the times granpa. Consoles are DONE.

Anyone remember how to get to this item/shortcut? Obviously, I need to go over the bridge in the building somehow. But I've searched everywhere without finding it. I've cleared the entire map, up until the mansion.

>>717417321
Isn't it at the end of the Bazaar?

>>717417321
>1902x1042
?

>>717417321
you get to it by going down the ladder instead of up where the butler is, it's just to the right after you leave the house that's direct to the shrine

>>717417445
You mean the one to the bazaar? Or the one below the butler?

>>717417509
below the butler, city shrine

>>717417341
Yeah. It was. This is my second run, and I didn't find that last run either. I just focused on all the riflemen, and never looked back, where the hill was.

>NPC icon shows up at earlier zone
>Now have to look through the entire area to find him
I hate this....

Missed the panda in bo capital, is he selling something cool there?

What is the gate and why did it appear out of nowhere? Where does it go and what is behind it?

>>717419136
I guess the gate is somehow connected to resurrection, hence why you also see it on Zhang Xianzhong bossfight.

Fuck Zhao Yun. Goddamn it, he was a pain.

>>717419136
Which gate?

>>717419284
It was also in the chest of Fang Ling and Bai Kru I think, the symbol at least.

So the final boss is the doctor? How did I get jarred then? I killed him

>>717420715
If you didn't complete He Youzai and Fang Yao's quests (ending in dialogue at the Reverent Temple in ch4) you get jarred
If you gave him the jade chisel you get jarred

>>717420937
I mean how is he alive? his head was there when he picked up the sword to stab me

>>717420715
You killed the him from another cycle in which he jarred you and ascended through drinking an elixir made from your armpit sweat.
By getting jarred you guarante he'll ascend and be killed by a Wuchang from another cycle.
This is until one breaks the cycle and escapes.

>>717421129
Another cycles Taoist that drank from Wuchang Jar juice

Drinking Wuchang's feet sweat to obtain immortality!

i wanna murder the guy who put that mad spearman on top of that beacon tower

>>717422998
Wish granted but you turned into an avian abomination and lost your mind in the process

>oneshot all bosses with axe + rampage
>general lei
>die 5 times and take a break
I thought it was invincible with this shit but it turns out I was wrong

>>717422998
You asked for immortality, but all you are getting instead is being trap in the cycle of samsara.

>>717363476
This bitch was an absolute nightmare for me on ng+

>>717363476
Missed her completely. When and where can I fight her?

>>717423495
ch4 past the tang palace

I am stalling on the Chimera bitch, any tips? I am a counter/2hander user, is it easier with other builds? I just get knocked once and get combos before this vapid cunt can stand up again Yes I know everyone is complaining about that

>>717424205
2nd phase? I honestly just went full aggro there
Use leech temper and unga?

>>717424454
I haven't touched Leech yet, its it that busted?

>>717359180 (OP)
>50 hours
how
i finished in 20, and i looked into every corner
and even the average on long to beat including people who 100% and beat it 3x is like 25 h

>>717385597
Not even close. Wuchang and Lies of P quite literally make this game look like a troll.

>>717417321
walk through the door oposite the shrine, turn left, walk the first ladder up ... and instead of going up the second ladder, just walk straight and fall down, there is a cave on your right, keep going and eventually you will circle back and meet another NPC there

>>717427609
bullshit, i liked lords of fallen, its pretty short but the double life is great since it allows you to fall down a ladder and not rage out, and the dual worlds make for more interesting exploration than just running forward blindly
i died more time in wuchang fallowing down a narrow path than to bosses .. made me realize every game should have some extra chance for such cheap bullshit

Any tips for lady of the night? I understand her patterns, I simply can't get any attacks in. I'm endlessly running after her only for her to i-frame dodge and either fuck off into the other corner of the arena or start a 360 degree kick string

Any news on the new outfits? Will do NG+ then

>>717428083
Exclusively go for backstabs, play incredibly safe.

>>717428131
>Exclusively go for backstabs
I try, but by phase 2 I have a success rate of maybe 10% every time I go for it because she can just iframe dodge and then start another untouchable pattern. I seriously do not understand the combat in this game

>>717428083
stack best magic res armor, put on lifesteal, you can stun her by getting behind her and just put dmg in
also put curse resist food on quickbar in case you get cursed

think you can turn her around and stun with spear, i beat her with word and dual daggers, shes much more annoying on new game + since she 1 shots you with many attacks

>>717428209
Combat isn't that hard. Try to find a weapon you actually understand. Oh and you NEED to gear according to boss damage, don't be a retard wearing random gear. She shouldn't be too hard to backstab with the whip longsword + a feather for a fast charge attack.

>>717428294
Exactly what I'm doing. My fatigue with this boss is probably exacerbated by the dumb elevator, actual humiliation ritual.

Also just to clarify, by "backstab" people just mean charged heavies in the back, right? Or the actual finisher?

>>717428209
also do NOT stand in front of her or play very aggressive, she can one shot you with her cursed balls spell, if you're close it's basically a shotgun in your head. I first tried second phase so I can't give you more advice, I found the first part harder

>>717428430
Charge heavy, well done, will put the boss down. Then you do that little cinematic attack.
Yeah the elevator is a bit annoying but it's not that long.

>>717385597
LotF 2023 is the Dark Souls 2 of modern soulslikes, it's not really a bad game but it gets mogged hard by other souls clones.

>>717428686
all soul clones feel the same ... and soul games themselves
its all a sea of mediocrity and dated design, and elden ring is the worst of them all, somehow it combines a boring empty repetitive open world full of reused assets and reused bosses

What the fuck was his problem?

>>717430781
You taunted him so now he's gonna fuck you up to prove he's a real hero

Game is easy but my fuckin god the amount of gotcha moments and downright frustrating bullshit in this game make you want to uninstall it. There a point of challenging the player versus annoying the fuck out of them for no reason.

>>717430845
>You taunted him
I did?

>>717431058
Game hammers in that you gotta attack walls whenever you enter a doorway to check for enemies. Same with shrines. It builds up a constant feeling of paranoia, and it's not a game flaw, it is intended by design.

I do think the AI being stupid with environment collision is a flaw, though I'm not complaining about it cause it's the only time you feel like you're not being oppressed.

>>717406380
thanks.
Idk wtf is zhenwu is I just finished cloudspire

>>717431058
>Game is easy
Axe or magic?

>>717434176
t. longsword faggot

>>717434338
Spear actually, but I respect LS users more because they at least need to learn the boss patterns and not just mash R1 or hide behind 900 layers of alacrity.

>>717382750
I'm playing P right now and it really does seem like all it takes is sprinkling some gothic bullshit on a steaming turd to get the BBsloppers to go apeshit and scream goty. The combat feels like garbage, 95% of the enemies in the game are doing their best Margit impression, the camera is a fucking nightmare especially in dlc fights like the croc or Markiona, there are so many mechanics like the cube and tree that feel unnecessary and halfbaked. The assembly system also strips a lot of the individuality away from the weapons since there aren't any stat requirements.

Where the fuck is the missionary nigga on the Tang Palace on chapter 4?

>>717434825
LS is honest until you realize you can just Temper Leech, spam Crescent Arc and trade until the boss falls over. That's kinda every weapon though.

>longsword
>needs to learn patterns
*Laughs in crescent arc*

>>717359180 (OP)
I don't play ching chong chink shit, anon.

>>717435604
>>717435576
>>717434338
>>717434176
You realize EVERY weapon has a cheese strategy, right?

I just wish there was a kungfu mode.

>>717431635
He was bullshitting, Suichang is actually broken because of the feathering, and since you exposed his cowardry it broke his self-image of being a hero. Ironically he's genuinely one of the only good guys in the game.

>>717435698
Demon of Obsession fights with bare hands so I wonder if at some point they wanted to add that fighting style
Maybe for a DLC

>>717435698
>You realize EVERY weapon has a cheese strategy, right?
>>717435576
>That's kinda every weapon though.
Yes? I do?
>I just wish there was a kungfu mode.
Just one more weapon type would be kino. DLC, hopefully.

>Finish game
>never got to see wuchang naked
This is the worst soulslike.

>>717436037
what a TORTUROUS game indeed

>>717436109
wtf how do you get white hair

>>717436167
Break the carts that are blocking a road (a sort of grotto) ASAP and rush towards Zhenwhu temple basically.

>Beat Bo Sorcerer
Get fucked bitch.
Now to check out the rest of Zenwhu Temple!

>>717436314
get ready for hilarious level design that makes normies piss and shit themselves in fear. Get some despair armor btw.

>>717436167
you get Zhao Yun (Elder)'s set when you beat him

>>717436543
Shame you never get Honglan's hair, or even Bo Magus' hair when you equip their headgears.

>>717436748
I'd also like the two brothers who leave through the port's armors. Budget constraints I suppose.
Remember that some article (maybe PC something website) said the game would have a premium shop. Westernoids really have something against this game.

>>717435698
Spear doesn't

>>717436421
I'm sure I have a set somewhere that has okay despair resistance.
Thankfully I can fashion over it with the bridal set!

>>717437431
steampowered spear can rotate enemies

>>717435604
didn't get to use it much yet, can you tell me what's great about it?

>>717359180 (OP)
How jank are the animations?

>>717437449
Actually I think bridal has the highest despair res kek

>>717435350
Lying down in a grave. I missed him at first too

>>717437619
They're great if you manage to imagine it's a Fromsoft game.

>>717437618
It's a shimmering (i-frame dodge) that can also as an option get you back to the enemy. Its iframes feel more generous but it consumes more stamina. Before enemies become really relentless in late game and sometimes even then you can just spam it if you're unsure and get distance between you and the enemy.

>20 hours in
>starting Zhenwu
What do you all think
Half way? 60%?

Those fucking birds
>grab
>paralysis
>REEs at you and can instantly corrupt you to death if you are up close attacking
>flies away
>endless claw combo
Why.

>>717437841
Depends if you skipped Cloudspire. Around half or so.

Any toaster bro in here? will this run well on a 3060?

>>717437895
Completed that yeah

>>717438008
yeah

>>717438008
Probably, just don't expect the highest settings. It ran well on my 4070 with sloptier dated CPU at Extreme settings, so I guess 3060 will do fine with mid to high. The devs will optimize it for lower VRAM anyway.

>>717438008
do NOT get this game if you're brown or elden ring fag btw, it's unironically not for you

>>717378405
It depends, some of them like Hong (Bird) really benefit from being a little bulkier.

>>717438292
elaborate?

>>717438605
big chance you'll say the game sucks because you find it le unfair or hate exploration/can't change gear or read

NOOOOO I WANTED TO SEX THE BO MAGUS NOT BE THE BO MAGUS

>>717372129
Will the patch be fixing how easily the quests are broken?

>>717438790
Doubt it. It's pretty much part of the game design. Maybe they'll add some pop-up BE CAREFUL messages but that's it

FUCK YOU NIGGER BIRD

>>717437619
Janky but looks like a masterpiece compared to FromSlop

>>717438857
Is there a list anywhere of what not to do or where not to go so you don't break the game?

>>717439751
The only non obvious stuff is:
>don't go through the cart-covered cave entrance at the start of Chapter 2
>don't go to the right in the chapter 2 palace before going to the top
>on Reverent Temple in chapter 4 talk to Fang Yao first before entering and talking to He Youzai

Out of these three, I think only the last one decides endings. Besides that as long as you interact with every NPC that appears on the teleport menu you'll be mostly fine, might only brick minor stuff.

>>717359180 (OP)
Bump