Thread 717384769

Why did we let Nintendo just get away with killing physical games?

it was gonna happen sooner or later

>>717384769 (OP)
OP here, meant to post a pic of steam and use a valve pic, sorry!

>>717384769 (OP)
This has been standard practice on other consoles for years but Nintendo puts a great big warning about other publishers being shitty on the box and suddenly they're the biggest scum in gaming.

>>717384769 (OP)
Their own games are sold on cart and aren't keys though, so this was designed just to fuck over third parties

>>717384903
No the fuck it hasn't. Even compared to Switch 1, PS4/5 were still far better in terms of games on the disc and playing offline without hassle

Here's what happens: as it's already been reported last month, 3rd party games are selling "way bellow expecations" considering the massive sales numbers of the hardware. And they will contiue to sell like ass as long as they come out as GKC, especially niche games like, idk, trails, disgaea, the square enix smaller jrpgs, falcom games etc.
They are severely underestimating how much niche gamers prefer physical over digital. I don't mean just collectors btw, I mean people that have like 25 games for a system.

What will happen if nothing changes is that 3rd party will start to neglect the system because the software on it isnt selling well.
Then you have another wiiu but in slowmotion

hopefully that survey did something

>>717384975
Third party devs cut their revenues by like 75% by using regular cartridges which are way more expensive than discs.

Devs already earn a low cut on physical, and a 50GB cartridge is like $15 more cost to them per unit

>>717385080
Sounds like nintendo needs to get those cart prices down real quick

if anyone was gonn aget away with it, it would be nintendo cause of their cult

>>717385153
And PC vegans. They relinquished physical ownership decades before anyone else and basically brag about it

>>717384769 (OP)
Because we're gay cucks posing downward dog, ready to receive the big red that aims to FUCK EVERYTHING

>>717385186
Digital includes subscriptions and DLC

Also more niche gamers buy physical

>>717384769 (OP)
Can you not still sell it/lend it to a friend?

>>717384769 (OP)
I didn't, I haven't bought a SW2 and I haven't bought any GKC.

Kill all digitalniggers

>>717385237
>Also more niche gamers buy physical
So a demographic that is small by definition?

>>717385186
Reminder that the digital collumn includes dlc and online sub

digitaltrannies

>>717385313
Its an extremely important part of any successful game system

>>717384769 (OP)
Lol fuck you faggot. Steam paved the way for that shit. Snoy joined the trend last gen, everything you buy on a PS4/5 disc is just a download key. Nintendo, if anything, resisted this until the last minute. That's why we trust Nintendo. The only one of the big three that has some level of integrity

>>717384964
I can't play some of my ps4 games without a long download.

>>717384769 (OP)
people aren't buying them and won't buy them. they will bend the knee as they always do. Also there's been a big, gradual shift against digital distribution among normies because of their disdain for always connected appliances and other fucked up business practices

>>717385492
Shhhhh. It's better to just let the shitbabies cry until they pass out

>>717385147
Its not so simple. Memory yeilds take a while to stabilize. Its like people are forgetting the switch 1 launch and late years. Devs were finally given a cheap cart because of this

>>717384769 (OP)
>Nintendo
I think you mean third parties.

>>717385147
Which in lies the issue, since it’s brand-new tech naturally it’s more expensive. Overtime it’ll go down, and with nintendo actively using it for their games that process will move along faster with the demand, but for now this is what things are looking like. Frankly the situation isn’t ideal for anyone involved

>>717385663
NTA, but I love my switch and play mainly on nintendo consoles. Stop typing and acting like a faggot. Game keys while not awful aren't a good solution either

>>717385624
Not really. I work at best buy and one of the daily sellers is yakuza zero

>>717384975
It's not even niche gamers prefering physical.
The console itself ships with like 250GB of SD card space. ONE third party AAA game at 50GB will take up 1/5 of that fucker.
Those SD cards aren't cheap either.

>>717385573
Install* you fucking brainlet. It's INSTALLING the game from the disc to your console, you know, because it's actually ON THE DISC

>>717385696
Ok heres an idea until then: you make every single switch 1 physical game thar has a switch 2 edition update for free on the switch 2. Its bullshit to pay yo change the settings anyway.
This way, until then at least you the physical switch 1 version on cart until then.
But what do these kikes do instead? Not only dont provide free updates, some you cant even upgrade the fucking thing at all. So the switch 2 is stuck with digital only, or buy the switch 1 version. This is unsustainable

Apparently a thing is happening where there cartridges will get more space.

>>717385846
67$ for 512 isn't that bad. You're here pretending we reached ps vita levels of jewery

>>717384769 (OP)
It's a good thing because it makes it harder for pirates to rip the games, piratefags have gotten too entitled and expect every Switch game to be uploaded before it's even out and to have it without paying. I'm glad Nintendo have finally put a stop to it.

physical gaming died decades ago. imagine playing an inferior version of every game just so you can own a plastic box, KEK. they don't even fucking include manuals anymore.

>>717385907
We're already at vita levels of jewery when it comes to storage

>>717385901
And hopefully they'll charge more for the larger cartridges so that fewer people can afford to buy them. It'll make them rarer and more collector worthy.

>>717385770
Better solution than what PC vegans got

>>717386013
Kill yourself

>>717385858
False, Eric.

>>717385985
Please explain how and why? It shows how new and gay you are

>switch 2
>forced to buy the switch 1 version of the game and play with no AA and crap res
Yea, I'm not liking this. Might have to skip this gen altogether. By skip i mean I'll just buy 1st party and everything else I buy it somewhere else.

>>717385985
Nothing will ever be worse than the brownstation shita

>>717385858
I can't play my nip copy of gravity rush without a download

>>717386326
Mindless consumer cattle

>>717384769 (OP)
My copy of DK Bananza is fully on the cart though? Did Nintendo not make that one?

>>717386413
Imagine admitting to buying this piece of shit LOL

>>717385186
includes dlc of physical though

Gamekeys are only for third party games and so far the only third party exclusives are Bravely Default HD and Yakuza 0. Give it time and they'll be ported to PS5 with physical releases.

>>717386468
What game should they have bought instead?

>>717384769 (OP)
Because it pleased specfags with "4k" and "hdr"
It pleased casuals with mkw
And it pleased pleased tendies and general consoomers by being new/ existing
None of them care about the importance of truly physical games, ownership, or consumers rights
They. Simply. Must. Consume.
>>717384903
They're scum for stooping to that business model, as well as other similar models.

>>717386514
>so far the only third party exclusives are Bravely Default HD and Yakuza 0
and both are key cards kek
in their last direct literally every single game was a key card I believe?

>>717384769 (OP)
>implying physical games haven't already been fading away for the past decade or so

It’s the same thing chud. Digital sales are 02749201730% of sales. Sure you can just barf numbers out of your ass until the company goes under but it would take some sort of critical thinking or introspection from a man who was born with parents who gave him an entire business caring for one second which is

NOT

gonna happen

>>717384769 (OP)
Because you let PC, Sony, and Microsoft get away with killing physical games. Going for the bingo line is par for the course.

>>717384769 (OP)
I'm surprised it happened since for the last few years physicalfags have been victims of outright extortion thanks to LRG and others.

>>717385186
>digital gam e revenue
They're using Gachashit as a statistic and that only works with Gacha games. No one is spending the price of a small house on Mariokart and Nintendo is too chickenshit to make a Gacha with the things people want in it (marriage, hot girls, etc).

All of the Gachas they make already are Game Freak ones involving Pokemon.

>>717384903
I know it was on the switch because i bought la noire on sale for $10 and was very confused when i had to download the game. I dont understand why they exist for switch 2 except for gigantic unoptimized bloat gamres that cant fit on the cartridge. If companies want to save money just do digital only. The only things i can think of is that digital inly is perceived as less value so games without a physical release sell for less and have fewer sales so by doing a fake physical game they get to keep the value and save the manufacturing cost of actually putting the game on the cartridge. It seems asine to me because the profit margin of digital games is much higher than physical by not having to deal with manufacturing, logistics, and the middle man cost. The last point still gets that with the eshop cost but whatever that is will be much less than what stores get

I feel like this is a topic with people that might actually have a Switch 2. How are you lads feeling about your purchase so far? Genuine question, trying to feel out if it's worth buying one yet or waiting for more games/ a potential revision.

>>717387065
these cunts wants shelf space without putting literally anything on said shelf besides a pretty image on a box

BRING ME
THE TENDIES

>>717386468
91 critic score, 9.2 user score. Why would I hide that I own a seemingly universally beloved game?

>>717387131
the console is nice the key cards fucking suck.

>>717384769 (OP)
same reason we let valve kill physical games for pc, its just more convenient

>>717387210
>tendie bonus for critics
>tendie cultists leaving user reviews
lold
>>717386534
there are literally countless options

>>717387131
>How are you lads feeling about your purchase so far?
I'm not the biggest Mario Kart fan, and I was very quickly turned off from World, but I know Nintendo will pump out a lot of good games for the system as the years go by, just like they did for the Switch, so I didn't have a problem getting it at launch. Bananza has been fun, but otherwise it's been a Pokemon SV machine for me so far.

>Genuine question, trying to feel out if it's worth buying one yet or waiting for more games/ a potential revision.
I wouldn't particularly count on a revision. Maybe there'll be a Lite version later on with attached joycons, like the Switch Lite, but I wouldn't hold out for a New Switch 2. As far as the games go, ask yourself whether you'd like to play Bananza, Splatoon Raiders, and Mario Kart World. The others are still releasing on Switch 1, so you can play it there, or fiddle with Yuzu or something. I personally don't think I'm ever gonna purchase another Switch 2, so I'm fine with this one I've got.

>>717387290
Then you shouldn't have a problem naming a single game.

>>717387131
It was an immediate upgrade from my v1 Switch, but the library currently sucks. It will improve over time, and I take good care of it, so I think I'll get value out of it.

>>717387290
But all those Brazilian Portuguese 0/10s for Mario Kart complaining rhey can't afford it are totally legitimate right?

Switch 2 is the sole videogame platform that has a mandatory physical disc slot

>>717384903
>standard practice
No it's not. These Game Key Cards are an entirely new thing. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing, one designed to placate the anger surrounding digital keys in boxes by allowing the end user to resell them with this new format, while using the appearance of being a compromise in order to better get away with phasing out actual physical releases--which is happening much faster than it would with keys, as the way it allows publishers to save face and any amount of money (compared to buying even the cheapest real carts) while screwing over the customer in the long term means a shitton of the Switch 2 library is now game key cards, even when they're just 5GB releases.

These things exist to try to manipulate people into not having the same negative reaction to a code-in-a-box, even though it'll have the same issue of these games only being installable for as long as Nintendo supports it. People also have no reason to trust that Nintendo will support it for an extended period of time, as they're not only are they the quickest to end store support for old platforms, but they have a history of scummy tactics, like ending the existence of Virtual Console so they don't have to respect ownership of those purchases, and instead rent the same ROMs back to you.

That's why people are calling Nintendo scum for this. Because they're trying to be tricky scumbags.

>>717387462
nine sols, stellar blade, and Expedition 33 mog any tendieslop from the past 20 years

>>717387602
>one designed to placate the anger surrounding digital keys in boxes
Anger you don't hold yourself because you're a PC vegan who is ok with owning nothing. Only wolf in sheeps clothing here is you pretending to have an opinion you don't believe.

>>717387712
It's ok to believe that.

>>717387552
It also has less than one tenth of the physical games for the slot

>>717387268
>>717387448
>>717387463
Sounds like I'll wait it out a bit, thanks lads. Can't wait for this to backfire when they increase the price in a few months.

>>717384769 (OP)
>>>>>>>>>>Nintendo
>Sony releases the PSP GO, can't use any of your UMD games
>Sony and Microsoft release digital only home consoles
>Not once did Nintendo ever release a game that's just an empty box with a code unlike Epic, Ubisoft, Microsoft, Sony, EA, Activision

Fuck off. YOU paid for this.

>>717385186
>Revenue

Let's see the profits chart.

>>717385737
The options given to third-parties are digital-only, game key card, or full price for 64gb cards.
TENDIE SLAIN

>>717384894
Except if those games are actually taken from you, which has not happened, you can just pirate them. Or, you can just buy them on gog and not have to ever think about piracy. You don't have such options on the Switch 2.

>>717388264
Since third parties are the ones using key cards, I can just pirate those as well. Nintendo games will continue to be on the cart.

>>717384769 (OP)
You are 100% underaged if you think Nintendo started this.

>>717388158
>nintendo is wrong to give what thurds wanted
Snoy lolgic

>>717388264
I lost my games on Switch 2? Just checked and I have all of them. What a weird way to defend owning nothing on PC.

>>717385153
> LE tendie cult may may
Wiiu proves thats there no cult

>>717384769 (OP)
You could have a room full of faggots and they’d be less gay than a Nintendo cocksucker

>>717384769 (OP)
>Why did we let Nintendo just get away with killing physical games?
That's third parties. If Nintendo would have said no to key cards you'd be complaining about Nintendo not giving a hand to these "poor little" thirdparty devs. If you don't like keycard crap simply don't buy it and look for yourself.

>>717384769 (OP)
>Nintendo killed physical games
Nigga are you serious?
Nintendo who doesn't set any trends but instead makes them optimal?

>>717384769 (OP)
If you have to download a 20GB patch, you say nothing.
If you have to download a 5 GB system update, you say nothing.
If you have to download a 20GB game, you shit your pants.

Is this mental illness or just good old mental retardation?

No, I am not a Tendie and I don't plan on buying a Switch 2. I'm just laughing at you children and brown morons.

>>717384769 (OP)
because bingtendies have absolutely no standards

>>717393107
This but PC vegans

>>717387602
>These Game Key Cards are an entirely new thing
They're not, it's been happening since at least the middle of last gen. Simple example is literally any Xbone game that says it has a Series version. The physical disk is almost always only of the Xbone version and the Series version is only downloadable. Assassin's Creed Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, Mirage, Gears Tactics, Gears 5, and Halo Infinite are examples of this off the top of my head. I've only ever seen Spongebob Cosmic Shake be a counter to this where it was the actual Series version with no download despite being an Xbone disk.

If you want to point at other games then the Spyro Reignited Trilogy does not have anything other than STD on the disk. RR and YOTG weren't even finished when the disk went gold so those only exist as part of a digital download.
The Switch version is even worse despite coming out years after the fact. It only has the first world of each game on the cart and you have to download the rest of each game.
THPS1+2HD are digital only, your physical disk is just used to tell it to download the data, there is no actual playable game on it.
All of the more recent Call of Duty games are not on the disk at all, it's like 30-40GB if I remember right and you download the 100GB rest before you can even play it.
One of the more recent Doom games makes it so the disk is only a download for the game and the actual file on the disk is like 1 MB or something like that on both PS5 and Series.
Indiana Jones (Both Series and PS5) and Starfield are just disks that tell the system to download the game like Doom. There is nothing on the disk.
Hogwarts Legacy, even the more recent backported PS4 version, only has around 38ish GB of data on the disk and only allows you to play the tutorial. Once you get past the tutorial (I.e. reach Hogwarts) it forces you to download the rest of the game.