Thread 717390173

Pikmin 2 is great too and i'm tired of pretending it isn't.

>>717390173 (OP)
The remake made out of Pikmin 2 is better.

>>717390173 (OP)
4 is better

>>717390173 (OP)
It's good but not that good, solid 7/10

>>717390589
...on opposite day

2 and 3 missed the point.
4 is a skinwalker.

>>717390173 (OP)
2 > 1 >>>>>>>>>>> 3 challenge mode >>>>> 4 > 3

needed pvp multiplayer

>>717390173 (OP)
I just don't like the time limit, OK?

It's not the greatest game, but it's a perfect game.

>>717390294
Who says it isn't? Other than no time limit, it's an objective improvement on 1.

>>717390589
4 is good but it's held back by Unreal Engine. The best game is 3 on Wii U.

>>717390901
The time limit doesn't even fucking matter because you have way more than enough time. Even on my casual-ass first time playthrough I got every single piece with 14 days remaining.

>>717390589
Every Pikmin's better, but Pikmin 1 fans are ready for that reality.

>>717391387
I've seen several anons saying it's the worst pikmin.

>>717390901
The time limit is literally the best part.

>>717391557
3 is too easy.

I just wanted more Pikmin 1, not stupid caves or that fucking dog

>>717390901
The timer it what makes it great and way superior game than the rest of the shity series you stupid fag

>>717390173 (OP)
Honestly 3 Deluxe and 4 is better. I will always tell new Pikmin fans to go to 3 Deluxe and then 4. Then work backwards because 1 suffers from pacing issues of needing to do everything in 30 days, and 2 although way better than 1 due to Caves being sort of infinite in the sense there is no time limit. This is hard for new players. 3 and 4 are way better at having no real time limit and just getting through it normally.

the insane fall off of the pikmin series after the first game should be studied

>>717397101
terrible bait

>>717390901
>get one (1) ship part each day
>you beat the game in exactly 30 days
Wow, so hard

Are there any other games that do something like Olimar's reports at the end of each day where he writes about something that happened in the gameplay?

>>717390173 (OP)
"greatest" is an ordinal determination, as long as 1 game exists then it has to exist

Anyone who complains about the time limit in 1 is legitimately retarded. I'm not even making a joke here, go file for disability now.

>>717397205
Not bait when I played through the game lol.

>>717397101
>”pacing issues” is when i can’t stroll around mind numbingly collecting shit instead i have actually to strategize and route
LMAO

>>717397561
i trying

>>717397561
>ditzy vtuber girls can beat the game in less than half the time limit
>/v/ cannot
The absolute state.

>>717397695
Who are you quoting?

So was someone at Nintendo really fucking mad back when Pikmin 2 was being developed and released? Something must have crawled up the dev team's ass because only someone really pissed would put in all those devious traps and random fucking bombs falling from the ceiling in Pikmin 2.
>falling bombs
>an invincible water monster creature that can spawn on your pikmin if you're not quick enough
>electricity that instantly deletes a pikmin
>a floor with a basic platform and the sides are full of water so as soon as you land on the floor RNG can determine how much of an awful time you have
>falling bombs WITH those enemies that scatter and panic your pikmin
>enemies that THROW bombs
>Spiders that ARE THE FUCKING BOMB
>falling rocks
>traps that only activate if a pikmin is nearby
>aggressive as fuck elemental enemies that sometimes feel like they require a spicy potion/bitter spray to beat reliably without losing a pikmin

Who the fuck on the dev team was mad at the world?

>>717397798
Whoever it was I hope he got promoted. That shit was kino as fuck and I wouldn't have it any other way. The baby gloves pikmin 3 and 4 put on are fucking lame.

>>717397101
>1 suffers from pacing issues of needing to do everything in 30 days
The time limit is at the core of the gameplay loop, if there's no limit you can just get in the map open a gate and go back to sleep every time, you might as well not have a day time limit, you might as well not even play the game.

>>717397252
Fuck, getting two pieces in one day feels incredible. Getting three just straight up feels better than sex.

>>717390901
In 4 they literally removed the time limit

>>717397798
This in combination with the slow decay of your pikmin as you travel 10+ floors was what made 2 so good to me. 4 turned caves into mario galaxy stages rather than a trek into the remains of human civilization

>>717397798
I ended up dropping 2 because of this issue. Maybe I could have powered through it when I was a kid, but it just wasn't fun enough to keep going knowing that every new dungeon and area was going to have one (or more) "lol bet you didn't see that coming, enjoy losing your last half hour of progress faget".

>>717398036
>>717391387
i didn't like that the optimal way to handle later-game cave floors was sending out captains with a tiny squad to trigger traps before grabbing the goods, and caves didn't really give you much incentive to multitask like the above ground levels.
A light timer (not to the degree of the challenge levels, just something to encourage you to keep moving) and/or not saving after every floor would have made the caves more interesting and given your choices more impact. Submerged castle was the only cave level that addressed the pacing properly.
Purples were also way too overtuned and shouldn't have been able to stack stuns. The game's still neat, but it doesn't hold up nearly as well as 1 under scrutiny

>>717390739
Their expressions are adorable.
I love Pikmin.

>>717397561
I find it truly baffling that it filters cunts.
How bad is /v/ at vidya? holy fuck.

>>717397798
>>a floor with a basic platform and the sides are full of water so as soon as you land on the floor RNG can determine how much of an awful time you have
>has a gatling gronk just to fuck you over on top of it all
Worst floor.

>>717396026
It's my least favorite of the series but it's still a good game. I just wish the caves weren't as prominent or were more unique like the one with the water wraith
When I played the series around 2018 it was very much /v/'s favorite, I guess it might've turned somewhat after 4's release

>>717391557
Fuck off, 4 has a ton of issues and none of them are related to the choice of engine

>>717391387
I used to believe that when it came out but after replaying both over and over I've come to the conclusion that 1 is better mechanically as well.

I want to pick up the switch version, but 1+2 haven't dropped in price at all. Fuck these greedy cunts

I tried emulating 1 but the widescreen hack is broken for me? Gives me a blurry image.

>>717390901
I don't normally like time limits for most games and in general, but with how Pikmin 1 is structured, it's not that bad, since everything is divided into segments/days. Just use a day to practice scouting an area and such, then redo the day with a game plan in mind, and you're good.

>>717397968
>he didn't unlock olimar mode
sad!

>>717390173 (OP)
https://youtu.be/BmPBA-rcwps?si=AH8SCC4pxbzeWajt

>>717400915
>None of the fault of Unreal
>What is performance issues
>What is locked 30fps
>What is toned down scale
>What is lower polygon assets
>What is smaller levels
>It can't handle 3 captains at once

>>717390173 (OP)
https://youtu.be/BmPBA-rcwps?si=AH8SCC4pxbzeWajt

the only problem with the Pikmin games is I can't decide which one I like the most.

>>717397957
Especially when you get an optional part somewhere in the mix. It's like an extra treat for just being proactive enough. It's great.

>>717397561
>people who never found the reset day option

>>717402674
I used to have this problem but after replaying them all recently I have to say that 1 is a bit above the rest. It's really just the perfect length for replayability and feels great to optimize your day count.

>>717397957
>get so good you get more than 3 parts in a day

>>717402927
Yeah, but then the dungeons are really fun in 2 and 4, and 3 and 4 have all of the fun bonus arcade modes.
I think 3 is the only one I don't love, and that's just because it's less spectacular than the others. It's still an excellent game.

>>717403031
Yeah the later games are definitely carried by their extra modes. I remember not really liking 3 on release until I played the mission mode. That said, I think all of the games are at least an 8/10 or better.

>6/10 game, Nintendo
>:o
Why are you manchildren like this?

>>717403510
Because it's a 10/10 Nintendo game.

The addition of extra commanders in 2 was a great natural evolution, it would have been the most perfect game in existence if it weren't for the caves and lack of overarching time limit.

>>717402579
>What is smaller levels
My brother in christ, each area in 4 is like three times the size of any other in the series. And that's a bad thing if you ask me.

>>717403510
Can you explain why Pikmin 1 isn't a great game?

>>717390173 (OP)
why couldnt pikmin 2, 3 and 4 be more pikmin 1?
the worst part about pikmin 1 is its only about 1 hour long. Even if you take it casually its pretty hard to feel pressure because of the long time limit combined with the short playtime.
2 was too casual with infini-time. the only people who think this is better than 1 are the cowards who got scared of the 30 day time limit instead of playing the game.
3 was too easy and the multiple captains, while letting you optimise and have them move and such much better than 2, broke the balance and made it even more relaxed
3D was even worse.
4 was a step in the right direction away from what 3 was pushing for , but was still waaay too easy even if you neglect the dog, plus some other minor issues.

give us a fucking hard mode / classic mode. Balance the game around having multiple commanders and doing 'dandori' runs. Fuck the casuals.

>>717402579
All of that pales in comparison to the rest of the issues with the game due to the intentionally fucked design decisions they made to appeal to casuals

>>717405760
Have you played Pikmin^s Louie mode? That was pretty close to what you want.

>>717391728
>Even on my casual-ass first time playthrough I got every single piece with 14 days remaining.
Press X to doubt, I agree with the sentiment, if you stop being an autist and just PLAY the game you quickly realise you have more than enough time, the "1 part a day" average is quickly offset by all the days you can get multiple parts.
its almost like the devs designed the game to be beatable

and even if you didnt, failure isnt a big deal, the game is like 4 hours long so you just go again on another sitting and do better, never knew what the fucking panic was.

but come on, no first time player finishes with 14 days left, when every area is new and you dont know where youre going, you dont know what bosses are coming, or what you need for a given part, thats just clearly an exaggeration. Most players will waste days on their first playthrough exploring things they cant get because they dont even know they cant get them yet.

>>717402526
>Just use a day to practice scouting an area and such, then redo the day with a game plan in mind, and you're good.
imagine being this autistic over a 3-4 hour game

just play it faggot. if you fail and lose, then try again.
jesus fuck american gamers are paralysed at the thought of loss.