Thread 717410132

Call me a fag but I don't like the trend of Nintendo making open-worldish games where you have too much freedom.

I don't like being able to dig almost everywhere just like I didn't like being able to craft anything in TOTK. I find it overwhelming and not an engaging gameplay experience.

For me, Super Mario Wonders was the perfect sequel because it didn't try to reinvent anything but just improved what the series was about.

I hope that one day Nintendo will go back to the traditional, tight Zelda experience and same for DK.

>>717410132 (OP)
Maro Wonder blew

>>717410182
It was my GOTY

>>717410132 (OP)
>tight Zelda experience

The bigger problem is that Nintendo games are all babbyshit-tier easy, it's just so goddamn fucking boring

>>717410132 (OP)
mario wonder is garbage and you quickly can't "dig almost everywhere" because as soon as you reach the 5th layer there're environmental hazards everywhere including underneath the ground, never played the game award

>>717410247
They could use a hard mode true but you don't really buy a Nintendo game for the challenge, it's more about the setting, polish and fun gameplay.

>>717410276
Mario wonder is fantastic. What kind of jaded millenial can you be to not enjoy the best 2d mario game ever made.

>>717410132 (OP)
>For me, Super Mario Wonders

Good morning saar! Yes yes, Bananza is bad game, do the needful...

>>717410132 (OP)
>Nintendo making open-worldish games
I know what you mean, lacks focus, etc.
But MKWorld is pretty cool in that regard, every track being interconnected. Really pulled it off in that one.

>>717410132 (OP)
I didn't really care for Mario Wonder but I agree that the abundance of freedom the player has in TOTK and Bananza, make them really boring.
TOTK is at its best during the tutorial when you don't have all your game breaking skills yet, but if you're creative and resourceful you can still do some unintended things and sequence break. After that the game just becomes a sandbox where every challenge is so easy to break, the game feels like it lacks game design entirely.

I like this trend because it's much preferable to the time where Nintendo felt like the player's hand must be held at all times, but they could probably dial things back a little and provide a more focused experience at least some of the time. In Bananza you do have the parts of the game that are meant to be more linear. IN future Zelda games I would love for the freedom of BOTW in the overworld, but the dungeons should be a tighter more focused and substantial linear experience and not just a single puzzle room anymore, though I liked the shrines as they were.

>>717410410
>millenial
millennial*

>>717410247
These games aren't meant to be a challenge, they are ment to be a fun experience.

I kinda felt like this when I first played Oblivion when I was a kid. I don't like games with little direction, I dunno.

>>717410132 (OP)
Bananza isn't an open world game though. Like at all.
It is rather linear.

>>717410943
>but they could probably dial things back a little and provide a more focused experience at least some of the time
they've done that for plenty of their singleplayer games on switch but you mongoloids always act as if it doesn't count

bananza and totk aren't even remotely comparable when it comes to the kind of things you can anyway, bananza is fundamentally linear

>>717410785
>For me, Bananza

Good morning saar! Yes yes, Mario Wonder is bad game, do the needful...

See how silly you sound?

>>717410218
Ok, fag

Bananza could’ve worked in a DK style setting but instead Bananza just looks like a bunch of random shit floating around or platforms moving side to side. It looks like a discount ratchet and clank more than donkey Kong.

>>717411126
There is no game called "Super Mario Wonders". Stay mad.

>>717410247
Cute opinion. Did a Youtuber give it to you?

>>717410132 (OP)
linearity sucks ass. more freedom games is better.

>>717411078
I know, you basically had BOTW which was full blown non-linear and then you have games like Mario Odyssey and Banana that give you that sort of freedom, but in more compact levels while incorporating some linear section in them. OP specifically mentions Mario Wonder so it's not like they stopped making totally linear games, but I'm really just enjoying this trend where the game actually lets you explore things on your own and you find tons hidden things all over.

>>717410132 (OP)
this happened with me in odyssey. the moons felt like nothing, as a comparison in banjo you get jiggies for every important task you have in the world. on odyssey a butt jump onto something might get you a moon so can beating a boss or something. oh and there is like 700 of them. 700 mostly meaningless task around an open map. go suck my balls nintendo. How cant they know that more collectibles isnt more content. i'd rather play dk64 than mario oddysey any day of the week

>>717410332
fun gameplay and challenge can both exist at the same time.

>>717410785
>le saaar needful xd
It shits me off that we're bound by the "Americans discover one meme about India a year" rule when making fun of Indians as there is over a century of material just sitting there.

>>717411358
umm no.
false.

souls games have rotted your brain.

>>717411248
I agree, same for Bananza. Bananas are so common you get tired of the mini cutscene after like 10 of them. They're fucking everywhere and become meaningless.

>>717410943
This. I like the trend aswell because you literally get the best of both worlds. In DK and Zelda you have the challenge rooms, rehearsals and shrines which are linear more focused experiences. You can also follow the main objective entirely which also provides that feeling, or you can mix both and have the freedom and focused experience. DK does this very fucking well.

>>717411248
I also lost faith in nintendo playing odyssey for the exact same reason.

>>717411417
>Bananas are so common you get tired of the mini cutscene after like 10 of them. They're fucking everywhere and become meaningless.

One. That's entirely false. Two. Most of the bananas have some sort of gameplay design around it. Also, the game doesn't force you to get every banana retard. You can literally just play the main story and challenge rooms which negates your argument.

here's a little prediction: once metroid prime 4 gets released and it's confirmed to be structured like the trilogy games the cocksucking OP will then shit on it for being too similar to 20 year old games and being stuck in the past

>>717411613
>here's a little prediction: once metroid prime 4 gets released and it's confirmed to be structured like the trilogy games the cocksucking OP will then shit on it for being too similar to 20 year old games and being stuck in the past

Yup, welcome to social media. Everyone bitches about everything. The fucking zelda cycle and that miyamoto meme is spot on

>>717410132 (OP)
>Call me a fag
you're a fag
>I find it overwhelming
a gigafag

stick to 2D platformers, these games made for children are too complicated for you.

Playing through Bananza felt like I was barely awake. When I got to King of Rot I had to wake myself up and turn my brain on.
If at least the bosses would have all been like King of Rot, I would like this game a lot more than I do now.

you have never played the game, stop larping you faggot and no (You) for you

>>717411817
Stay mad bro.

>>717411817
But I am. Why are you so emotional for a video game lol

nice AI generated picture

still no (You), nigger-man

>>717410247
>The bigger problem is that Nintendo games are all babbyshit-tier easy
Why? because it has color? LOL

>>717412803
the only challenging bits in nintendo games i can think of are the secret boss in splatoon 2's DLC and 3's secret stage.
other than that, no. nintendo games are piss easy because they are literally made for babies.

>/v/jeets are so desperate the only thing they can spam now is le babby game as if it was a sega commercial from the 90s
yep, they definitely lost, based nintendo

>>717410247
Games are meant for kids anon. Not 25+ man children.

>>717413094
Donkey Kong Country was meant for kids too.

>>717410132 (OP)
>Call me a fag
fag

>>717413075
Can someone translate this post into English?

Games are fun when they provide a problem to solve, like “get the star”. It’s even more fun when the player has a robust set of tools that allow the player to solve that problem in multiple ways, like the multiple ways of platforming to any specific area in sm64. The problem is newer Nintendo games give you so much freedom it doesn’t even feel like you have a problem to solve, you just do stuff and then you win. You just wander around and find moons in Mario Odyssey. You just pick up some items and smack enemies to death in BotW, or you just walk around them because that will probably work too.

real ACfag time I see

when will this old nigger be killed

>>717413512
It's not that simple. I agree in principle, but at the same time I don't think it applies to BOTW/TOTK for instance. In Odyssey's case the whole game is more of a trip and what you said fits but it's still effective even like this. But the formula is growing thinner everyday and it's not looking good nowadays

>>717413323
a rough translation,
>REEEEEEE STOP INSULTING MY COMPANY THAT MAKES GAMES FOR CHILDREN
im surprised he didnt cry about one of his boogiemen.

>tranny samefagging
very sad!

>>717413273
Yes but games are better now.

>>717410132 (OP)
I think I can understand.
None of the open bananas were really memorable. The most I ever thought was "oh I think I came from the wrong direction for this banana".
A couple of the combat shrines were ok but most were just go unga.
I think I enjoyed the sub worlds the most especially the ones that forced you to stay in a certain bananza with the challenge built around them.
At least it didn't overstay it's welcome with like <40 hours so I am okay with it and had my fun with it.

It's obvious you didn't play this game. DK does allow you to "dig anywhere" but there's no reason to. There are very obvious places you are supposed to dig and while digging in such places you will occasionally find treasure chests which tell you where the fossils are buried. There's really nothing else to find besides the fossils, so if you're just digging around everywhere you're wasting your time.

I certainly wouldn't consider this an open world game either. It's much more linear in direction than even Odyssey was. It's certainlly no BotW.

>>717410247
Tbf I don't want to be spending 20 hours trying to do execute a bouncy hop double jump just to reach a golden star or banana or whatever the fuck challenge you need to do so I dont actually mind if it's made more easy.

When I was a kid yeah I feel like I had more time to waste on shit like that, but don't really want to waste time on gay little bananas and stars.

>>717414715
Lol.

>>717410132 (OP)
I really hate how modern Nintendo games look, there is something giving me very cheap vibes about that artsyle they have been using. It feels corporate and lacks any personality, and don't even get me started on that horrible flat UI. Nintendo UI design used to ooze with soul.

>>717411248
It requires a treasure hunting mindset. You grab the freebies and move on, but the satisfaction comes from finding the trickier ones and reaching the point of having no more moons to find in a kingdom. The platforming in the game is fun too.

>>717415986
>>717415307
>>717413927
>>717414096

You lost and got raped,,, Eric

>>717410132 (OP)
>I find it overwhelming
I don't find it overwhelming at all, I just dislike the the feeling of having to intentionally gimp myself to get the nicest gameplay experience, which then in turn worsens the experience.
Like in TotK there's a really cool gauntlet of obstacles in the gerudo valley but if you use Link's abilities to their full potential you'll never even see it cause you'll just fly over the whole thing.
It's the same with Bananza. You smash your way through walls and find a Banana only to see that there's a different "intended" path to the banana that would've been more fun to traverse than just breaking the walls.

>>717416935
You lost and got raped,,, Eric

I really feel like with both this and TOTK they were really struggling to come up with obstacles and puzzles that couldn't be completely broken in half in two seconds and they failed more often than not.

>>717410132 (OP)
>Bananza
>Open world
Retard

>>717417213
I don't think they even intended to come up with any. i mean I personally prefer restrictive game design but it would go against the developer's philosophy of le freedom of these games to suddenly restrict you, so that's probably why they chose not to even try

>>717417213
>>717417415
You lost and got raped,,, Eric