Thread 717413878

>>717413878 (OP)
In Persona 3 Reload, step into the shoes of a transfer student thrust into an unexpected fate when entering the hour "hidden" between one day and the next. Awaken an incredible power and chase the mysteries of the Dark Hour, fight for your friends, and leave a mark on their memories forever.

Persona 3 Reload is a captivating reimagining of the genre-defining RPG, reborn for the modern era.

>>717413878 (OP)
Only if you like Removal of anime cutscenes

It's an ok remake of an absolute dogshit game

Some things are lost, but most people don't have a PS2 or know how to emulate. I'm not personally a fan of how bright and colorful it is and the loss of stuff like the little chibi figure animation is really a shame. I think they changed some of the music, too.
Really, though, I can't be unbiased because I played it back the original came out and nostalgia is a hell of a thing to compete against.

>>717413878 (OP)
There is no such thing as a good remake. It's serviceable but FES still has more charm and personality and they censored a few things. Reload is also much easier and in line with P5, the original could be brutal at times.

Maybe try emulating the original and if you really can't handle it go for Reload?

anybody got an in depth comparison of the differences?

>>717414039
FES was already a downgrade to the original with the fatlus touch of adding irrelevant social links and "true endings" for irrelevant characters with irrelevant stories

>>717413878 (OP)
It's more or less a side-grade to FES - better in some ways, worse in others. But it's much, much better than P3P and a decent way to experience the game.

>>717414079
It's just persona 3 fes in unreal engine

>>717413878 (OP)
It's a good remake of Portable's male route
I would still put FES above it, and while Reload does have some nice QoL over it, people have modded most of the best stuff back into FES, so you may as well emulate
At the very least even if you can't rub braincells together to set up FES, wait for Reload to go on a significant sale

>>717414135
Peak retard who never played either

>>717413878 (OP)
>deload
kill yourself

>>717413878 (OP)
It's the 500th release of this garbage and it still doesn't have all the content and charges you 30 bucks for shit that was in the previous releases

>>717414273
doesn:t the dlc put it on par with fes?

>>717414292
>female MCfags still butthurt

>>717414276
I've played both before you were even born, zoom zoom. Aigis is a shit character, the answer is the worst dump fatlus ever shat and you should kill yourself.

>>717414392
Peak retard who never played either

>>717413878 (OP)
I thought the new versions of the music were worse then the old ones. And how come I can't equip any weapon as the protagonist. What the fuck Atlus we need to take a break clearly.

>>717413878 (OP)
The wide popularity of this series detracts me from ever wanting to play it. I tried some short lived gachaslop years ago called aster tatariqus that had a similar mechanic of doing chores throughout your day and it was a fucking boring. That seems to be the main thing people gush over when they talk about this series asides from the turn-based jarpig combat and music.

Tldr I don't get it

>>717414135
It's the same game, you can ignore The Answer, it's even separate in the main menu, in fact that's what I did when I first played it because I found the ending bittersweet but perfect. It's not like P4G where they fucked up the visuals and forced Marie on you.

>>717414658
it was fucking boring*

>>717414273
Although maybe 'good' is a bit much, maybe adequate is better (until I remember more weird/bad shit that I've forced myself to forget)
>>717414382
In terms of quantity of content, you get The Answer and a little bit extra, some hangouts scenes and a new boss battle
But even there you've got some changes that are more in line with what you'd expect from Portable, the main conflict being rewritten to cut down on some of the melodrama
Which isn't entirely bad but they really fuck up in other, important places too

>>717414658
Considering the image you've attached to your post, it's not surprising that you're a complete fucking retard. Kill yourself.

>>717414805
Answer the question, reeetard: what makes it good?

The wide popularity of this series detracts me from ever wanting to play it. I tried some short lived gachaslop years ago called aster tatariqus that had a similar mechanic of doing chores throughout your day and it was fucking boring. That seems to be the main thing people gush over when they talk about this series asides from the turn-based jarpig combat and music.

Tldr I don't get it

>>717414804
which important places did they fuck up

Purely visually, it's fine, though I prefer the gloomier cutscenes of the original more.

>>717414658
>persoyna
>gameplay
Lol

>>717415121
Lmfao Pokémon is more engaging than this shit

>>717414658
>doing chores throughout your day
You're not doing much, days pass fast, you're mostly talking to people. I guess if you don't like the high school setting you're not gonna like it. What makes it good is the modern setting, and the mix of VN with proper JRPG elements. The premise is that your group gets super powers and is secretly saving the world, that's something that appeals to people.
In terms of gameplay it's dumbed down SMT, which is a positive. Finally each game has a strong visual identity and a god tier OST.

>>717415028
cinematography is such insane downgrade from being insane highlight of original it's not even funny. Atlus should just hire Shaft or smth at this point to do persona 3 related stuff, cause by themselves they just produce garrismod cringe

>>717415028
sovl vs soulless

>>717414037
>but most people don't have a PS2 or know how to emulate
Huh???
its the most basic shit ever
if you can turn a computer on then you can install a emulator and download the rom.

>>717413878 (OP)
ost is objectively worse, massive downgrade
va is objectively worse if you play on en
atmosphere is completely different in practically every single room and location in the game, not even in the same ballpark
peak anime cutscenes mostly gone
has qol though

>>717413878 (OP)
Ye it's pretty good.

They are removing that shit from gamepass on 15.08 and I am still in September in in-game calendar
Question for Persona specialists: how many hours do I need to play per day to finish it on time? I am currently on 144 floor of Tartarus

>>717415008
Yukari trying to snatch the key from Aigis at the last moment is replaced with her simply collapsing to her knees
They changed the whole premise of the Big Fight by making it so that nobody else knows that Aigis dies if she loses, which personally I don't think is the worst change in the world but it definitely does lower the emotional stakes, especially since they just brush past it in optional dialogue after the fact
I'm sure people would argue that a lot of the hangouts are out of place but I didn't mind most of them, having something between all the dungeon crawling feels better than nothing
>>717415028
Now post the first cutscene comparison

>>717415121
>shoot yourself to use special move
whats the thought process here

>>717413878 (OP)
Yes, and also one of my favorite games last year. Exploring Tartarus actually feels great now.

>>717415186
I'm more into fantasy settings and "reliving" the high school experience doesn't excite me. Japanese game is quintessentially Japanese (duh). Granted I love other JRPGs this just seems like the one I can't force myself to play.

>>717415389
You're in the last third, I'm not sure about specifics but you could probably do that in a week

>>717415439
No harm in that the games are essentially "japanese high school simulator" meets SMT not everyone is gonna be into that. You can try Metaphor if you want to get a feel for how it plays both games are very similar but Metaphor is fantasy and removes alot of the cringier elements present in Persona.

>>717415434
Death is the main theme of the game
Most party members lost a relative or someone dear to them, almost every social link is about grief, MC's main Persona is Thanatos, MC himself is emo jesus and so on

>>717415654
I might try refantazio when it drops below $20.

I enjoy the occult elements of Persona but they basically disappeared after 3
Even 5 is shallowest version of 'cognitive psience' and 'Wakaba's research', it's so lame

>P3R
>Reloaded II
>original BGM mod
>original UI SFX mod
>welcome back fix
>AI can't use therugy

I will now play your remake

>>717413878 (OP)
I thought it was a good way of revisiting a game I had played 15 or so years prior. It does feel lazy at certain points, such as the summer vacay island scenery. It genuinely looks like it was made in a single day.

>>717413878 (OP)
Yes.
It's not a direct upgrade as there is still a few elements that the original does better, but overall, it's a way better game than any previous version of P3. The bits that the original does better are more inconsequential things like the lighting in some areas and I do prefer the 2D animated cutscenes from the original more.
But when it comes to the Remake, the main strength it has is that it greatly improves the gameplay which is straight up bad in the original games imo, the remake actually makes it fun to play along with a ton of QOL additions.

Most of /v/ will call it bad because this place hates remakes on principal.

>>717414039
>Reload is also much easier
MORE?! fucking Persona 3 being more easy? what the hell, it was a sony movie game tier before what the hell is now a twitch walkthrough?

>>717413878 (OP)
>DLC Music
>Its for P4 & P5, NOT PQ & PQ2 where the P3 Crew is also in this game

such a Shame.

Yes, but people will decry it as unredeemable shit because it's not perfect and gets some stupid things wrong.

>>717415434
Although nowadays the Carl Jungian aspect of the serie is basically lost, it means that you need to kill your ego to free your inner persona (mask) and they used a gun to make the point visible to any retard

>>717413878 (OP)
Yes, overall it is. It's a sidegrade overall to FES though, both versions have strengths and weaknesses but it's not a simple one is better.

>>717414039
>There is no such thing as a good remake
Trials of Mana, Romancing Saga 2.

Crack where?

>Persona 4 Revival
>On a Certain Day you can visit a Girl in a Hospital

But Sadly, Devs dont know their Game & Lore, are working on the Remake

>>717416763
Except she died a decade earlier
Not that we haven't had ghosts in the series but still

>>717413878 (OP)
FES is better.

The truth is, reload is a good game that is held back by the source material but P3 fans aren’t ready for this conversation yet and will try to argue the version that is 10 times more annoying to play and ugly with basically the same story with some things missing is the best one
Persona started with 4

I liked how they hyped of The Answer only for all the new players to learn it still sucked just as much as it did before. Okay maybe slightly less but not enough to matter.

>but I liked The Answer
well good for you. It ain't great. It's not even good. Great battle them I guess.

>>717414292
Irrelevant opinion with a fanfiction character

I prefer the Reload sountrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fusy_xrZ9E&list=RD7fusy_xrZ9E&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CELqNBjpdms&list=RDCELqNBjpdms&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT5Ck6bXBu8&list=RDdT5Ck6bXBu8&start_radio=1

>>717414894
Ew a wojak kid saved a Ruri image.
Judging by the way you speak I don't think you'd like Persona, no. You'd probably find the emotional stuff "cringe" or however you'd say it.

>>717419026
What's wrong with 'jaks? Did one touch you when you were a shota?

i like nufuuka

>>717420368
She's a cutie

>>717414039
>There is no such thing as a good remake.

if this mod ever exists then yes

>>717413878 (OP)
Its better than the original. Doomer faggots will call it a demake because of one cutscene at the beginning of the game that they think looks better cause anime and the removal of a tranny npc

>>717413878 (OP)
yes

>>717414658
>The wide popularity of this series detracts me from ever wanting to play it.
stopped reading there, try again when you've turned 18

>>717422331
Fuck you crabs carrying bitch

>>717421374
based

>>717422574
Tell me you love cock without telling me you love cock
Faggot loving nigger lmao

>>717415308
Late zoomies and gen alpha are notoriously tech illiterate on account of smartphone handholding

>>717413878 (OP)
>graphically improved in every way
>script stays the same so story was not altered
>new scenes added with male sees members that act as brand new social links
>more stuff to do at night thanks to party member hangouts
>party movesets rehauled to make them more useful and distinct from one another
>new trait passives that individualize each party member further, unlocked via hangouts you can do at night
>tartarus improved significantly and way less boring to do, more difficult to traverse in one night than fes as well due to sp limitations
>fusion spells turned into theurgies which make them more balanced but still broken sadly
>a lot of boss fights are massively improved but the broken things the game gives you will make them seem easy still
The only bad thing is that they ruined some of the tracks by remaking them including mass destruction and battle hymn of the soul, however they made up for that by adding new songs that are just as good and arguably better like color of your night

Im too biased because the original PS2 version is my all time favourite game of all time.
The remake is probably more servicable for people that only experienced p5, but I think the whole vibe is different, I personally vibe more with the Lain-ish 2000s vibe the PS2 games had at the time so I think its why I didnt enjoy it as much, still I think some of the new tracks a pretty good the same way P3P also brought nice music to that version.
Overall I'm happy that P3 also got a new audience and we also got new merch from P3 in stores because of it.

>>717416039
The gameplay is only "better" in Reload in the sense that it won't "get in the way" as much, not that it actually improves what's there.
>tartarus floors are small linear hallways with 1-2 chests, nowhere to explore
>p3's loot system where equipment had randomized effects is removed and equipment is usually just given to you in fixed chests on boss floors, no need to explore for equipment
>you now get enough exp from bosses that there's no need to explore for exp
>liz requests asking you to get certain weapons or shadow drops from tartarus are gone, no need to explore for items
But Persona fans will interpret Tartarus being more shallow and simple like this as an improvement since it lets you mindlessly button-mash past it and get back to the social sim sooner.

>>717413878 (OP)
played FES and the remake. both great games but just play the remake if you are getting into modern persona.