I just tried these 2 for an hour each and uhh... I don't get the appeal.
Do I need to be autistic and/or a leftist to enjoy this game? cuz the fanbase is full of them.

You need to be a woman to enjoy these. Just go play Outer Wilds, it's alright and it's easy to play. Plus it filters women because it offers too many choices.

what do you expect lol
>>717419490
>women
lmao
captcha: YWNB8

>>717419490
This is correct, you need to be an ugly fujo and be very into shipping

>>717419629
Idk, but when I asked /v/ about these 2, everyone answered
>it's actually good

>>717419356 (OP)
And Jewish.

>>717419356 (OP)
No joke you have to be a zoomer teenager going through a period of mental unwellness. I say this as a zoomer who played both when I was a teenager. I don't give a shit about either anymore as I realized they are both kind of slop, but that is because I'm mentally better and older. This is stuff that only exists because certain ideas can go way too far online and trap people in essentially a blind obsession. It is like the demiurge of gaming. Even when I was blind, I still felt disappointed after beating Undertale because it is essentially just a pathetically short visual novel.

>>717419695
The "people" you were talking to were women. No men go in threads for either of these games, it's a waste of time. They're filled with /co/ rejects.

>>717419695
/v/ and 4chan as a whole is filled with twitter trannies
>>717419796
>women
lol

Amazing how these game's mere existence mindbroke /v/ for a decade

>>717419356 (OP)
Which means I wouldn't even try Deltarune.
I really don't get this kind of quirky games that are popular with normalfags... I guess I like Class of 09 but that's an exception.

omori sux but undertale is actually charming

why didnt you just post ingame pictures instead of header images if you "played them"

it mindbroke nothing doebeitever
these games are all meaningless trannybabble
only tranny freaks cared about them

>>717419795
>you have to be a zoomer teenager going through a period of mental unwellness
the fanbase is full of middle-aged men.

>>717419972
wait.
here.

>>717419356 (OP)
if you don't make it out of the ruins then you didn't even really try the game, if you did feel free to drop it, click here to understand the appeal spoonfed from a timestamped eceleb
https://youtu.be/FFIs6LsV0a4?feature=shared&t=302

you shouldn't play omori at all.

>>717420023
Because Undertale released when they were in their 20s. Keep up. Time passes.

>>717419795
i hate to quote reddit and morty but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvK6KsLkPUs
undertales theme is literally about letting go of the fucking game.

>>717420023
This sort of still fits with what I say. Online there is a phenomenon of groups that are comprised of mentally ill teens or tweens that also includes middle aged basement dwellers for some reason. Take all the moralfag shit over sex. It is spearheaded by retarded youths who think they are more pious simply because they don't have the desire for it yet and can thus ayo sus away without care. There are also middle aged cucks in this group too though that make long ass videos about why female characters in videogames need to wear burqas or how evil they think "gooners" are. The two back and forth in a very pathetic and immature way that creates a self-sustaining group.

linking a youtube video from a tranny youtuber
undertale trannies are unreal

>>717420313
its necessary since mods no longer permaban newniggers who post "whats the appeal" threads. if you need someone else to form an opinion on a video game such as /v/ then you genuinely do not belong here.

>>717419356 (OP)
>or a leftist
You are not?

this nigga doesn't have the gif to post
he has to link a yt link
lmao

its /v/ culture doe
trannytale is not

>>717419356 (OP)
You have to be mentally ill.

So that's why...

>>717420492
no? undertale is for chuds anon. only undertalefags i can think of who aren't.... are sans/reader fic authors.

>>717420518
sorry but I only save things onto my computer that I like.
>>>/co/mmie

>>717419880
They're still mind broken about it.

If you like books and reading, you will probably like Undertale and Deltarune, if you don't like books and reading, you probably won't. The only people that think Undertale or Deltarune are trannybait games are the people who don't understand how to write a narrative from an open perspective, Toby is working within his limitations as a game maker and compensating for what he lacks by making you use your imagination for a lot of it. This isn't to push some non-binary narrative, but to establish a connection with the player.

test

>>717419356 (OP)
If you're not a leftist (aka get triggered if anything goes against your world view like the modern day rightoid) you won't like Undertale because it preaches understanding and has gay characters, yeah.

this tripnigger is actually so embarassing lmao
why do trannies and normalniggers impede on our SAFE space so much
i don't understand geg

>>717420592
Omori would only be 4chanesque if the creator stuck by her shotacondom. Absolutely ridiculous that she lets a team of faggots she hired get in the way of her forever development dream game.

>>717421104
I like reading, but I did not care for Deltarune

>>717419795
You're retarded.

>>717419795
This post is proof a lot of the posts crying about zoomers are self hating zoomers

>>717421946
it's trannybabble
the fact you read his post in the first place says a lot
be sure you're not getting your "egg" cracked anon
i know you must be girly and feminine

>>717421240
>undertale preaches
you have the literacy of a nigger fyi

>>717422130
It insists upon itself, Anon. Honestly I didn't even finish it

>>717421795
omori would fail to be a good game even if it was 4chanesque because the actual story is shit what a tweest bs

>>717419795
>because it is essentially just a pathetically short visual novel
that's what makes it good, however.

>>717422067
I don't self hate and totally agree with your sentiment in fact. I am proud of my generation and think it is better than any before it. I was just pointing out the precise demographic that finds the most appeal in the quirky games. Of course, with something like Undertale I'm sure a larger group could find some appeal in it because it has a few universal themes. But the people who are super obsessed and subscribe to a reddit for it and make references to it all the time are mentally ill and/or young. I'd even give Omori that the part of its story surrounding the siblings specifically is tragic and touching. Most everything else with it is kind of shit though.

>>717421795
omori as it was in the early conceptual stages was incredibly boring, have you even looked into it? it wouldve been another unimaginative slightly coomer-coded indie slop in a sea of unimaginative coomer-coded indie slop that got maybe 100 sales. it already has plenty of allusions to /ss/ anyway, you cant just straight up put porn in a video game unless you're a AAA western developer where theres enough actual good content to offset the porn to the point people dont get turned off. omocat is also a pretty obvious kawoshin fujo and had voiced her liking for it back in the day, so i highly doubt the sunflower stuff was external influence.

>>717422357
>tragic and touching
>someone fell down the stairs
>better hang em!
anon you seem unwell you should talk to a therapist

you need to be a loser tumblrina that narcissistically worships your own romanticized depression. you can be a chud or tranny, it doesnt really matter.

hanging your non white sibling seems pretty based doe

is Earthbound any good? or is it just the same garbage as Undertale & Omori?

me onions gay

>>717422982
No, it's total garbage. If you want to play a quirky anti-RPG, play Linda Cubed.

>>717422495
I was more talking about just the sentimentality of childhood and a lost sibling relationship. It is ridiculous to suggest a physically mature and healthy girl in most ways would die/be knocked out for a long time by being pushed one story down a wooden staircase. Even more ridiculous to suggest that two boys would try to stage a suicide instead of either saying she simply fell, calling an ambulance, or hiding the body if they felt too much shame. Needlessly edgy and randomly finding an excuse to shove suicide into your game is not a good look for quirky indie games. I suppose I can't even give it the sibling thing though because most of that is probably just my mind entertaining me. Random deep thoughts about sentimentality that aren't actually present in the game. This loops back to my initial point though. These games are kind of shit and the fanbase mostly just doesn't know better. A large amount of what they like about the stuff is not actually part of it and is just stuff they imagine. A large majority of indie games, even popular ones, are overhyped garbage.

>>717419356 (OP)
all indie games are like this, you have to realize that the indie game audience is mostly terminally online zoomers who don't like playing games more than they like socializing about their schizophrenic game plot with other terminally online retards

>717423682
trannybabble

>>717423682
anon you are talking up a shit in the middle of my cornflakes. Undertale never shat in my corn flakes.

>>717423701
I'm sorry you're brown

>>717423980
>no argument
hit a nerve eh' nigger?

>>717424103
no?

Nah. I'm autistic as well as a leftist and I think both of those games are extremely overrated. Undertale at least has some witty writing, Omori is just shitty manipulative melodrama.

Play Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass instead.

>>717424493
HAHAHAHAHHAYHAHAHAHHAHAHUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
https://www.reddit.com/r/wendigoon/comments/1g81ane/reminded_me_of_our_favorite_white_man/
HAHAHAJHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
epic fail geg

>>717423701
Maybe try playing some actual video games and not these story simulator things.

these niggas man
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAAAAAHHAAAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHHHAHHHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHASHH

geg actual worse than a nigger or a tranny
holy fuck

i share the same site as these niggers LMAO

>>717422417
>Kawoshin
Based dev, I will now buy your game

I have not played Omori but as a grown man I'm not ashamed to enjoy whimsical games. Does that mean everyone can or should enjoy them? No, but that's okay. Different gamer archetypes exist for a reason.

kill yourself
you're a homosexual
why should anyone listen to you

no offense to the op but i swear theres a thread like this every day

>>717427831
There is a thread like this every day because some autist schizo or another feels the need to ensure there's always a thread up about how much of a hack Toby supposedly is.
This is somehow less of a "general" than trying to discuss Deltarune at all.

>>717428089
I think it's a response to how some people will praise Toby's games like they're the second coming of Jesus. So people feel the need to counter balance that retarded shit by saying everything he's made sucks balls. Understandable, really

some people really make this game their life XD

>>717428620
I think feeling the need to "balance" online discussion against people who aren't even on this website is a lot more retarded than overly praising a couple games.

>>717428792
just feels a bit pointless doesnt it. just let people like and dislike what they want to, idk

>just let people be a bunch of tranny freaks and chop of their dicks
ok buddy

>>717419356 (OP)
you need to be a gay furry for undertale and a pedophile for omori

>>717429337
that is not at all what i said?

that's what you said in my mind

>>717419356 (OP)
No, you just have to be willing to look past the bias that you "should" only enjoy a thing if you're autistic/left leaning. For Undertale especially you've got to look past the knee-jerk response of "they want me to be NICE to the things on the FIGHT screen? but they're there to die!!!" Which is apparently near impossible for most people.

>>717419490
>>717419796
>>717419854
>>717419795
Retards

>>717419356 (OP)
If you want a serious answer, you have to someone who's both interested in turn-based RPG and someone who enjoy stories and characters. If you're some pleb who plays only, i don't know, the latest and most mainstream shit, then I doubt you'd enjoy the games

It's easier to get into Undertale than Omori because Undertale has more interesting gameplay and is way more well-paced then Omori

>>717419356 (OP)
Sorry OP but only white people can appreciate these games.
Maybe go play FIFA or CoD or something meant for your own kind.

>717429729
>you have to someone
>reddit spacing
>717429842
>toby fox
>white
you niggers don't even try

>>717429903
>"They call you names but they never say you are wrong"
Your skin is the colour of shit

>>717419356 (OP)
I find that Undertale gets better as it goes on.
I didn't like it much during the tutorial area.
But 2 hours in you should be at Snowdin which is one of my favorite part of the game.

>>717419926
Class of 09 becomes repetitive in 5 minutes and insufferably annoying in 15. Somehow enjoying the whole thing once the shtick is played out is crazy.

>>717423701
Blasphemous, La-Mulana, Pizza Tower, Balatro, Hotline Miami, etc. are nothing like this.

>>717430417
Undertale and Omori are also nothing like this.

>>717428792
>people who aren't even on this website
If we're talking about Toby Fox fans, those people are pretty much only on /v/ these days

>>717421104
>if you like books and reading
Holy fucking underage detected. Before the ipad existed little zoomer reading was not a distinguishing trait. There's a world of a difference between consuming the clasics vs. cozy mystery slop, romance slop, or fantasy slop. To say nothing of oprah slop or god forbid booktok slop.
>if you like books or reading
Fucking christ the implications of this comment man. What the fuck.

>>717430708
Oh look, another self hating zoomer post

>717430183
i have a10 eyes, and i am your better. redditfrog
>>717430695
you mean twitter?

>>717430695
How delusional can one anon possibly be?

>>717430708
Are you really gatekeeping reading?

I like Omori. It told a nice story with good characters and an enjoyable combat system.
It's really well constructed in a way that I don't see much outside of stuff like Elder Scrolls.

undertaletrannies don't belong in this site.

>>717431282
>in this site

>>717419356 (OP)
you can be normal and still enjoy undertale
omori is for actual trannies though

>>717419880
Yeah and CoD and FIFA too, don't forget the ponies

>>717422982
It's kino

>>717419356 (OP)
The real /v/ tumblrcore is Hello Charlotte.

I'll say that, while I don't like Undertale anymore, I still hold immense respect for Toby Fox. Man made himself rich off of such a small thing. He just managed to hammer some nail the right way and make something that appealed to millions. Every game dev should hope to achieve success like this.

>>717430828
>you mean twitter?
If you use twitter that's on you
>>717430873
Anon compare the popularity of chapter 2 of deltarune with chapter 3 and 4, it's not even close. Undertale is a different story, but even that isn't what it once was in terms of popularity

>>717422417
>-coded
I'll have to add a regex for this

>>717419356 (OP)
Are you trans?

>>717431113
Are you seriously ignorant to the actual content of books?
>if you like reading
Is the gamer equivalent of your well meaning grandma buying you Stray because she heard you are a gamer and play rim world. It is a gross simplification signifying nothing. What it does imply is zoomers don't even read enough to understand differences in literary diet. Zoomers are as ignorant about books as the hypothetical grandma is about game genres.
>the game has words so you have to "like reading" to like the game
Holy fuck dude. This level of mental deficiency should not even be possible.

>>717422357
Every generation is going to get increasingly worse with no reversal in sight. The drug at work here is internet access. The peak for internet access was somewhere between 1990-2005. Peak generation was already 10-20 years old wherever that point actually was. Each generation after the peak declines in quality every year. Humans cannot interface with mass communication tech in a healthy way. It's not zoomers' fault specifically, it's a factor outside their control. Nobody is or should blame zoomers for being born past the peak. The degradation effects all of us too.

>>717431921
>compare the popularity of [free product] with [paid product]
... it's all the same game, people who like ch2 are still fans of Deltarune.

>>717432237
Yes, but chapter 2 was unavoidable, not so for these new ones. Except on /v/ 2 months ago, but even that went away way faster than all the buzz around chapter 2 did

>>717430708
>There's a world of a difference between consuming the clasics vs. cozy mystery slop, romance slop, or fantasy slop
Lmao
I never understood what faggots are trying to prove by saying shit like that.

>>717419356 (OP)
tranny game: the post

>>717419356 (OP)
You don't have to enjoy every piece of media. It's ok to not like things

>>717433281
>piece of media
just say game, you homo

>>717432193
>Is the gamer equivalent of your well meaning grandma buying you Stray because she heard you are a gamer and play rim world. It is a gross simplification signifying nothing.
Oh I get it, you're just some faggot poser who needs to gatekeep a hobby because you don't like people engaging with something you don't consider "hardcore".
Also that anon's original point >>717421104
was that if you're into reading, you may enjoy a text heavy game. Nothing about what kinds of books one is into
>What it does imply is zoomers don't even read enough to understand differences in literary diet. Zoomers are as ignorant about books as the hypothetical grandma is about game genres.
Lmao that anon was right >>717430792
It really is a self-hating zoomer

>>717419356 (OP)
Omori is good, undertale is shit.

>>717433697
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BEING INTO READING. NO ONE ON EARTH SAVE FOR SOMEONE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS IS INTO READING. EVERYONE WHO READS HAS DISTINCT PREFERENCES FOR THE CONTENT THEY CONSUME. IT'S A FALSE PREMISE.

I'm done with undertale faggots. The bar has crashed through the floor into hell. It goes without saying that a game should be judged on THE FUCKING CONTENT OF THE WORDS just noting the presence of words is actually insane. That's a complete non factor and the fact it is being treated as a factor implies a lot about the fanbase.

>>717419356 (OP)
>playing the faggot starting pack
I'll agree that toby makes good music but that's it

>>717434626
uh oh
anon is having a melty

>>717434852
The OST of Omori is fucking great too.

>>717429729
actual serious answer, you need to be a faggot with no taste to like these games. good on you OP for not being that

>>717435446
you sound insecure

>>717429729
>Undertale it's mainstream
Kill yourself faggot

>>717419880
>Mindbroke
Okay tranny gooning to a furry goat bbw isn't mind breaking shit.

>>717420286
Faggot just post the shit next time fucking redditors and their bullshit spoilers

>>717432798
>but even that went away way faster than all the buzz around chapter 2 did
only because a seething janny kept deleting Deltarune threads despite not breaking any of the rules here
>inb4 muh general
any new big releases will constantly get new threads.
it's unavoidable.

>>717436625
>nooo dont spoil things you need to ruin it for everyone else!!!!
pound sand

>i played 2 hours of Omori
Nigger you didn't even reach the first Farwaway section.

>>717419490
>It offers to many choices
Such as? Genuinely curious as someone who finished Outer Wilds.

>>717419356 (OP)
o fug

>>717437852
He probably didn't even finish the prologue

>>717419356 (OP)
deltarune is better

>>717419490
Omori is better written than outer wilds

Undertale has a moderately interesting premise, the concept of having your choice to fight/flee against enemies have consequences isnt done often. The game works as a deconstruction of its genre - however, your only method of knowing that the game works like this is by killing toriel on your first playthrough and then resetting. - The main premise of the game is done at this point, anything post doing that exact sequence of events is fluff. It is somewhat interesting, if you have played enough of the genre for a deconstruction game to have any effect on you. Otherwise, its of little to no value.

Omori is a game that explores a character being "depressed", however its written terribly. "Oh no me and my buddy killed my sister by accident, lets go into the garden and hang her from a tree so mom thinks she killed herself" is such a leap in logic. If they accidently killed the sister and just pretended she fell down the stairs? Sure, that works. But thats not what the game did. None of the gameplay in the game is any good, its purely a story game, and the story is not well written. A depression simulator with a scenario no one can relate to, is inherently flawed. Mediocre game at best, and thats being generous.

>>717438060
>>717437852
all for the better, the less time anyone puts into WHAT A TWEEST the better

>>717437962
The choice of which planet to go to, rather than the utterly linear slop of Undertale's couple of routes.

>>717438183
Might be true, I haven't even bothered playing it. Outer Wilds isn't a game you play for the story though, the story is awful.

>>717438289
It's not really an interesting premise. Nier did the same thing 100x better.

>>717438289
Another retard filtered who didn't understand the game, come back when your not a retard

>>717438413
You like outer wilds for the gameplay? Ok lmao

>>717438579
No, I like Outer Wilds for the exploration and progression. That said, it's still only a 7/10 game, it's just easy to recommend because it's easy to play.

>>717438487
which one didn't he understand

>>717438786
Omori, undertale is shit i agree

>>717438173
Deltarune is way fucking worse and it's not even close

>>717438487
Aww, did I dislike the game the youtube video told you was a masterpiece? :( Don't worry, you can always play Heartbound next hombre.

But thats just a theory, a Game Theory!

>>717439031
Nope, your just a retard who got filtered, but that's just a theory!

>>717438289
Undertale is the only game I've played where reloading your save file actually gives you unique dialogue. I'm not sure if Deltarune has that aside from the Knight's game over screens

>>717438413
>The choice of which planet to go to, rather than the utterly linear slop of Undertale's couple of routes.
First off, any person who unironically uses the word "slop" is automatically retarded
Secondly, it sounds like you're complaining about the game being linear, which is not what that anon is talking about
i haven't played outer wilds, but does the game gives you different endings based on choices you make?
Undertale does that when you kill certain characters

>>717439271
>Secondly, it sounds like you're complaining about the game being linear, which is not what that anon is talking about
He was asking what the "choice" was in the game. Undertale is completely linear aside from a couple of early choices that put you on one of a couple of routes, which are 90% identical in terms of level layout.

>different endings based on choices you make?
Not really, the ending changes slightly based on your optional mission completion. But the point I'm making is that having basic freedom to pick where you go next is too much choice for the kind of retard who loves Undertale, because you cannot survive without a guide telling you how to get onto each route.

I'm well aware what Undertale does, I've beaten the game. It's absolutely atrocious, one of the worst highly rated games I've ever played. I'd put it up there with turds like Not Treasure Hunter, and yet it's probably sitting at a 90% rating due to overweight women like you.

both these games were great fuck you niggers

>>717439854
Obviously, but you can't say that in an OP on /v/

>>717437390
Speaking of it, is this the thread, now?

Can someone explain to me what omori is about and why it's so highly regarded? Spoil everything for me

>>717423701
Industrycuck

>>717439690
>He was asking what the "choice" was in the game. Undertale is completely linear aside from a couple of early choices that put you on one of a couple of routes, which are 90% identical in terms of level layout.
Choices doesn't mean the entire structure of the game changes.
You're still making choices because the game acknowledges what you've done through character interactions and endings.
>But the point I'm making is that having basic freedom to pick where you go next is too much choice for the kind of retard who loves Undertale, because you cannot survive without a guide telling you how to get onto each route.
You could've said just said you prefered non-linear games and be done with it. Acting like an insufferable faggot doesn't make you look good

>>717439854
They're not even games

>>717441047
>You could've said just said you prefered non-linear games and be done with it.
I don't. The point I was making is that your average undertale fan would struggle with Outer Wilds, which is an easy game for children, because it offers player agency instead of telling you where to go. I'm sorry you took this as some kind of slight against linear games, when it was purely derision aimed at undertale fans.

>>717440960
Generic allegory for depression. Not much more to it.

>>717441513
Anyone who thinks omori is about depression either missed the point of the game or didnt play it, why are /v/ tards so fucking media illiterate?

>>717441275
>people who are a fan of a game will struggle at playing a different game of a different genre
Damn bro, that's crazy
Are you also gonna say Kirby fans will struggle at playing Ninja Gaiden Black?

>>717441930
did you really just say media illiterate? lol gay

>>717419490
Outer wilds is a straight white boy to trans BBL hypno sissy pipeline game.

It happened to me.

>>717441930
Incels are too subhuman to have any kind of culture, education, or imagination

>>717442051
Not my fault your a fucking retarded faggot

>>717438865
this

>>717442117
Go back, resetard

>>717419695
You gave them a half assed 60 minute attempt when you weren't even really into it in the first place. It's fair that you don't like them, i didn't like omori personally, but you didn't have an honest attempt at enjoying them.

can we all get along please

>>717442123
did you say something gay and now you're trying to make up for it by calling me a retard? that's also gay

>>717419926
>won't touch deltarune
>didn't even get to the actual story in omori
>got to snowden and quit undertale
>I love class of 09
That explains everything, you're brown.

>>717442279
Not being a retard is not gay, being a retard however, is

>>717442006
No, I'm saying that undertale fans are legitimately mentally retarded. Someone who has only played Kirby has a better chance of beating any Ninja Gaiden than someone who is a fan of undertale, because the Kirby player has a chance of not being retarded, while the undertale fan has a 0% chance of not being a retard.

>>717440984
>if you don't like A then you surely like B
this is console wars/politics/religion all over again

>>717442429
Did an Undertale fan raped your mom or something?
You seem to be very fixated on shitting on them

>>717439854
No omori is better.

>>717432193
>The drug at work here is internet access
Yeah, not SSRIs and birth control? Not fluoride, rapeseed, and blue light? Not prenatal and childhood malnutrition? Not lack of exercise and education? Not people being locked inside their homes for a year?

>>717442986
I just hate the game on such a level that I can't consider anyone who likes it to be human. I don't care about the fanbase or anything.

>>717440960
omori is more like a jhorror. It has nothing do with depression people say it does are lying or don't understand the game.

>>717441930
I did play Omori and I don't know how anyone could claim it isn't about depression. As I see it, the real difference between it and other indie depression games is that Omori is actually good about it because the vast majority of them are about some privileged ass fucker who has depression for zero good reason written by some myopic white woman that's never known hardship. Omori's way more legitimate in its take on it.

>>717443705
Omori is less about depression and more about guilt desu

>>717443206
Your spot on, though you forgot the V word

>>717443229
That's incredibly pathetic, anon.

>>717419356 (OP)
>autistic
yes
>leftist
not really

Yeah both of these games aren't for me. But they sell a shit ton of merch. Something about the subject matter really appeals to the wallet, which I always thought was interesting

>>717419490
>it filters women because it offers too many choices
why does this happen. i've seen it before.

>>717419356 (OP)
I don't think an hour of playing is enough to really make either of those games show off their best aspects but honestly just give up if you're not enjoying them and play something you'd actually like instead of torturing yourself.

>>717420637
Hey I love Omori and wear merch of the game. If I see anyone else wearing omori merch I see it as a red flag because they're mental.

>>717446972
Women do not see choice as a good thing, they love being told what to do. This is why when your chick says "I'm hungry, let's get takeout", you do NOT say "okay, what do you want?". She wants you to decide for her.

>>717421104
>If you like books and reading
you've never read a good book in your life faggot. just slop. pretty clear if you think like this. ridiculous shit.

the fanfare surrounding undertroon and ontrooni are evidence that gamers are genuine retards of the lowest common denominator. see also detroit: become troon. absolute slopperino

>>717429729
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand fuckin undertale kek

>>717421104
This post is so deeply insane and up their own ass.
> Toby is working within his limitations as a game maker and compensating for what he lacks by making you use your imagination for a lot of it
How can you type this and not realize anything?

>>717419356 (OP)
/v/ will seethe endlessly when games they don’t want to play become popular and critically acclaimed. You don’t have to force yourself to play games you don’t think you will enjoy. Not all games are for everyone. I find strategy games boring but I don’t seethe about it.

>>717432820
of course you're too retarded to grasp it. nigga, it means you can't tell a classic novel from slop - which you just said

>>717419356 (OP)
The appeal is that they are pretty decent games but a select demographic of irreparable autists decided to revolve their lives around them for no reason

>>717419972
You're reminding me of the deadlockfags who got butthurt that I posted a screenshot I grabbed off a google search because I couldn't be assed to load the game itself just for an image. Nowadays no one is in denial that plenty of people who don't like the game have actually played it.

>>717442986
>Did an Undertale fan raped your mom
esl. opinion discarded.

>>717419356 (OP)
they don't get good until 30 hours in

>>717447674
>otrooni
>has all straight male characters except for mc's love interest and mc's sister, both of whom are straight
>another retard filtered kek

>>717448605
>it's not a troon game because it has straight characters!
huge argument. don't look at the game's fanbase tho. it def doesn't appeal to troons and reddit discord fags btw.

>>717448858
>it appeals to troons cuz i said so!

>>717419356 (OP)
Homestuck and its consequences have been a disaster for the internet

>>717419356 (OP)
>Do I need to be autistic
Yeah being furry and gay also helps

>>717449020
it appeals to troons because they make up a considerable part of its audience. saying that that isn't the case is just disingenuous. you have no argument retard faggot.

>>717448482
>still liking golem
uol, opinion discarded

everyone in this thread should agree to disagree, make up, get along, and walk into the sunset together

>>717449281
>mostly troops like this game. My evidence? Reddit! Cuz that place isn't all troops!
Kill yourself you dumb autistic retard faggot

>>717449463
sure, the stormtroopers. you can't even speak english. what you say makes no sense and you can't even understand what i'm saying. get better at english before talking shit. beyond retarded esl nigger.

>>717449463
>>717449729
can you two kiss already

>>717449729
>muh spelling mistake
Like I said, autistic retard faggot

>>717449952
>stormtrooper

>>717449281
all games are made for troons doe
gaming is a tranny hobby

>>717450124
>reddit

>>717447098
>wear merch of the game
Cool, what kind of merch?
> I see anyone else wearing omori merch I see it as a red flag because they're mental
That's exactly what I would assume too.

>>717451854
I've got t-shirt, keychain, and stickers on my smartphone case from omori. I know it's hypocritical but again most people that like omori that much have to have something wrong with them.

>>717419356 (OP)
you have to be a a gay brained narcissistic likely from childhood trauma

>>717452095
Nice. I don't think it's hypocritical, most of these people are genuinely insane. I love Omori but I absolutely wouldn't want to have anything to do with other western people who are into it. I especially don't want to see their posts online. Exactly the same as my situation with Deltarune.

>>717419490
>You have to be a woman to enjoy omori

>>717449281
Nothing about Omori appeals to trannies.
It's your average RPG Maker game, and trannies hate omocat for being a shotacon.
>it appeals to troons because they make up a considerable part of its audience.
That's now how it works, dumbass.
By this logic, TF2 and Sonic appeals to trannies because they also make a portion of the audience

>>717440960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlKEMQeDoM
Omori isn't (you). And (you) are not Omori.

>>717419356 (OP)
I don't get the appeal of Bethesda or Rockstar games, but you brainlets ruin the board every time one of their piles of shit comes out.
>Do I need to be autistic
I don't think autists particularly like these games more than anyone else. Autists are usually drawn to simulators.
>a leftist to enjoy this game? cuz the fanbase is full of them
Every video game fanbase is full of leftists unless it's gamerbro or coomer slop. That said, I know a lot of right wingers who begrudgingly love Undertale/Deltarune.

sex with omori and frisk

>>717440960
>what omori is about
Split between two modes, Headspace where you play as Omori, traveling around a world of imagination trying to find your lost friend, and the Real World where you play as Sunny.
As Sunny you've got 3 days before you move away, and your old friend Kel is banging on the door trying to get you to come out to hang out one last time before you leave.
You gradually learn that no one has seen you in 4 years, ever since your older sister committed suicide, and no one knows why twist is that you accidentally pushed her down the stairs and your closest friend Basil decided that making it look like she hung herself would keep you from being taken away.
You explore the town and find what happened to your friends after everyone split up, and why they even split up even though you were all closer than family.
After discovering and confronting the truth, Sunny has kind of a mental break and confronts Omori, who is his mind's way of protecting him from the truth.

Dismissing it as another quirky Earthbound clone about depression doesn't do it justice, it's a really well crafted game.

>>717420023
>>717420298
>middle aged basement dwellers for some reason
Autism. Seriously. I'm not dicking around. If their interests weren't undertale they'd be talking about MLP, thomas the tank engine, Bbuey, or furstuff. You can actually hear it in a way a lot of them talk. Many have the autism drawl lisp indicative of whatever form of brain damage autism is. They can't understand normal social nuances, that complexity makes them mentally unstable, so they gravitate towards simple and immature messaging, which is usually found in content meant for kids and teenagers.

>>717419795
how the fuck is undertale, a game made and composed by 1 dude in anyway shape or form slop. do you even know what slop fucking means. just call the game bad like a non autistic retard that gets his entire vocabulary from 4chan.

>>717455673
>they gravitate towards simple and immature messaging, which is usually found in content meant for kids and teenagers
People say stuff like this all the time, but then when you ask them what sort of stuff is adult, mature, complex or serious, they respond with shit that falls somewhere between "boring" and "degenerate," and the message is still either simple, or no one agrees on what it is.

>>717455948
I used the examples of bluey and thomas the tank engine anon. You can't particularly defend serious adult interest in those shows at a content level (interest in animation or woodworking/electric hobbies, should not result in purely an interest in either of those subjects it would be more nuanced, which is what separates an autist from a non-autist). It's very clear there what I mean. However, kids media in general operates by A-B formatting. It has to be procedural and standard, no atypical story telling at all, and nothing too complex in terms of concepts. So if you do time-travel lets say for example just one example, it just has to happen, you can't go too deep into how it works, or potential impacts of it. If you do political commentary (even evil organization) it has to be limited to 'bad guy,' 'good guys,' and you can't have too many characters involved. Personalities need to be basic. Hero must be hero, all good, all virtuous, if the hero is mean they need to resolve that with 'their besties' very quickly. You need archetypes that are basic. Main character, friend group, villain (or no villain not a requirement), each character easily fits an archetype, and the overall mood of the story is 'we are besties, family, even though not related, and we get through problems together,' (you can't take that 100% literally I'm exaggerating to try to quickly summarize what kids media entails). It won't leave lose emotional ends everywhere, everything must be resolved. You'll also find kids media even if it explores 'dark themes,' glosses over those themes, so you can't have kids media have a character talk about anything of depth, you might get a 'I'm sad my mom died,' on a rare kids show, but even that language it's baby language. 'Oh I'm sorry about that I did not realize how much it was effecting you.' 'It is ok,' then they never mention it again, but most of the time it's just a 'it's implied they're sad,' with no narrative acknowledgement of it.

>>717456981
That type of really simple format appeals to autists, because if you have say basic male adult character who is the main character but a bit of an edgy whore (pretty standard in entertainment), the autist and child response is 'well how is this person a hero when they act like that? It's bad writing!,' because they can't understand nuance or complexities. There's a secondary issue on this though where companies obviously want all consumers to consume kids media, because then they get to double dip on profits. That's why some kids media is actually tolerable for adults, but not in large quantities as normal functioning adults just want some complexity somewhere. So adult is just narrative complexity somewhere that can be in complex character relationships/interactions/behaviors, adult themes like violence or sex, or just an atypical narrative (for example constant flashbacks/forwards, unclear timeline, multiple main characters, or moral ambiguity). 2/2

>>717454850
Fuck off Mari stop posting from heaven

>>717419356 (OP)
I wouldn't call omori leftist. it has the wrong fetish's for one thing.

>>717456981
You don't think Undertale and Deltarune supersede your description of kids media when it has characters like Flowey, Asgore, Kris, Susie and Noelle? Undertale has you free a bunch of monsters from imprisonment in spite of them relishing in the idea of genociding humanity. I'm not sure I'd call it typical storytelling either when it breaks the fourth wall so much. Deltarune also clearly has a lot going on that there's no way a kid would understand. I'm sure Undertale does as well, but I'd have to think it over since it's been awhile.

>>717457236
>if you have say basic male adult character who is the main character but a bit of an edgy whore (pretty standard in entertainment), the autist and child response is 'well how is this person a hero when they act like that? It's bad writing!,' because they can't understand nuance or complexities
I get what you're saying, but honestly, I don't see that as adult or mature, I see it as cope. That's the coping of normalfags when confronted with the fact that they're incapable of living up to the ideals adults asked them to aspire to growing up. Normalfags will look at a genuinely good character who would never lie or cheat, doesn't drink or have casual sex, and go, "Pfft, yeah right, nobody acts like that!" But plenty of people do, just not them, because they're peasants. I love A Song of Ice and Fire, but I would argue literally none of the characters are good people. I don't look at the cast and think, "Wow, isn't it awesome how REAL they are?" No, I think it's awesome how interesting they are, but I would never be friends with them. They're awful. Makes for a fun story, but I don't relate to them.

>>717458406
I mean, asian girl from California, I don't doubt she's a Dem voter, but I get what you mean.
It's got Shotacon baked into it's foundations, but that's it.
Sunny is straight, Aubrey didn't transition, Kel doesn't have vitalligo, nobody's black, none of that stuff that the left worships.
Closest is Basil who *could* be gay, but doesn't really give any indication in any direction, and he's fully supportive of Sunny's crush on Aubrey.

And speaking of Aubrey, there's even her famous bit of racism.

>>717459201
Not only that, but Aubrey goes to Chruch to mourn for Mari, the church and the preacher there in general are shown in a pretty positive light

>>717458589
>description of kids media when it has characters like Flowey, Asgore, Kris, Susie and Noelle?
It's the 9-15 market into it as opposed to the really little kids, but given its that market they still add basic kids content to the fandoms so there's enough for autists there to latch onto, because they have the same problem with complexity but not as bad as complete autists.Like they'll do random shit like Sans meets Loud House characters for example, which makes it really obvious its a kid. Nearly all of those cringe ocs or cringe headcanon art (think words like 'soft-boy,' 'big gay,' or 'small bean') are created by kids. Kids don't want kids content to be seen as 'childish,' and they will gravitate towards something with a bit of edge to it that still has basic concepts, but that edge never goes over basic shit. It's why avatar is so popular, and people defend it as deep content. It's really basic with a bit of a bite to it, because they never got to redeem Azula like they want and it's implied people die. It's a solid A-B plot though.
> Undertale has you free a bunch of monsters from imprisonment in spite of them relishing in the idea of genociding humanity.
But that stuff is not the actual focus, the presentation is 'haha silly date with skeleton boy,' and cutesy writing it's not actually focused on that plot. It doesn't treat that plot seriously. That's what media that is for kids does, and is exactly what I meant by my kids media won't actually talk about 'adult' concepts it brings up.
>I get what you're saying, but honestly, I don't see that as adult or mature, I see it as cope.
It is adult on the pure basis of you can't do that in kids content, because kids get upset by (or so is held by corporations) by moral ambiguity, and adults just want some complexity somewhere. The personality example was only one example, and not all adult media is going to be competent. A bunch of adult animated shows obviously suck.

>>717458589
>Normalfags will look at a genuinely good character who would never lie or cheat, doesn't drink or have casual sex, and go, "Pfft, yeah right, nobody acts like that!"
Oh and it's not that nobody acts like that being the problem with these characters. They're boring. They're just not what adults want to watch, which is why adults don't get much out of preschool shows for example. Adults just want more complex entertainment. It's not about them being real. It's as you said about being interesting, and being interesting to an adult is story complexity somewhere.

>>717458406
>>717459201
OMORI is very fujo-coded though, which often has a large overlap with leftism. Basil is pretty much tailor made to pander to BL lovers, and the shota designs of Sunny/Omori and Basil only exacerbate the appeal. Literally just look at pic related and try to tell me that Omocat wasn't getting off hard to it.

>>717460079
>that edge never goes over basic shit
Isn't that a good thing? Edgy shit is cringey.
>It's why avatar is so popular, and people defend it as deep content
I think ATLA is good because of the fight choreography.
>the presentation is 'haha silly date with skeleton boy,' and cutesy writing
Yeah, 'cause that's funny and fun.
>It doesn't treat that plot seriously
Well, a couple characters tell you with a straight face that if you die to Asgore he will wipe out humanity, but obviously since it's a game you're not going to die.
>That's what media that is for kids does, and is exactly what I meant by my kids media won't actually talk about 'adult' concepts it brings up
But that stuff is also not very interesting to begin with. Undertale explores the purpose of video game characters, and how it's difficult but more beneficial to you to be a pacifist when violence is so easy, which is true to real life. It doesn't explore the idea of whether it's a good idea to free someone from imprisonment if you know they'll go out and murder people because, well, there's really only one answer to that question.
>kids get upset by (or so is held by corporations) by moral ambiguity
Asgore murdered six kids to free his people and Toriel considers him a terrible person but everyone else loves him. Sans doesn't blame you for killing in self-defense, but Undyne does. Is that not moral ambiguity? I think if a movie or TV show is morally ambiguous, some people will point out that it isn't saying anything, it's just pussyfooting around without taking a stance; but if you do take a stance, other people will call you a propagandist.

>>717460295
>Adults just want more complex entertainment
Not him but you have no idea what an adult wants, adult want to watch football and sleep in the middle of the match, you are completely delusional if you think that the average adult wouldn't chose the newest Jurassic Park movie over over an actual complex movie, hell I would even argue that adults are the ones that want their entertainment to be as simple as kids media

>>717462162
Basil in particular is very suspect, I personally don't buy into shipping him with Kim one bit.
But the manga, drawn by a woman whose portfolio is mostly toxic yaoi shotacon, is a slightly different matter than the game.
That said, Nui Kono is definitely leaning further into it than Omocat did, just look at Sunny here blushing at Hero like he thinking he might catch his sister's ex on the rebound.
Little slut.

>>717462162
I was too busy enjoying both Aubrey's and Mari to care. If it was only a shota game i wouldn't play it.

>>717462162
>which often has a large overlap with leftism
Well there's still zero leftist or woke shit in Omori, so I don't see how this is relevant in any way.
Of course the boys are cute, it was literally made by a shotacon fujo. This isn't the only strong point about the game though.

>>717462842
I'm still waiting for some kind of confirmation that Headspace Aubrey is nopan.

>>717441275
>it was purely derision aimed at undertale fans.
Anon, why are you judging a singleplayer game by its fanbase? This metric works only for a game where the audience affects your enjoyment. For example, you might justifiably hate Rust because it's a glorified griefing simulator. When it comes to Undertale you can shut the curtains and let only the game itself affect your perception of it.
That said, story-driven RPGs like Undertale are not for everyone and it's fine to dislike them for reasons of taste. Some people will like wildly different genres of games, like Deltarune and BC Piezophile and Dwarf Fortress. Others will not and filter out disliked genres. Going rabid because a game within a genre you don't like is popular is insanity.
>>717447231
You've never seen one play the Sims in Create-a-Sim or build mode.
>>717456981
>>717457236
Go watch Gargoyles and come back. Kids' content should not be dumbed down which you're implying.

>>717463029
Do you think Sunny would not imagine that scenario while dreaming?

>>717460295
>They're boring
I think a retard who just wants to sail the ocean and eat meat or a kid struggling to not to just solve their problems with violence when they're so capable is more interesting than a school teacher who decides to start cooking meth or two alcoholic detectives who are cheating on their wives. Those latter guys aren't interesting, they're just assholes. I see assholes every day.
>They're just not what adults want to watch
Right and I'm saying that's not because they're adults, but because they're normalfags. They're the average masses. And in modern society, since we're in civilizational decline, the average person is a degenerate rube. This is why they love GTA so much, they're one argument away from committing crimes themselves.
>Adults just want more complex entertainment. It's not about them being real. It's as you said about being interesting, and being interesting to an adult is story complexity somewhere
I'm 99% sure mainstream television is not complex. Those adults aren't watching Law and Order or 24 because they're "high IQ" or "deep", they're watching them because it's real people doing real things, and average person like that because they struggle to understand a story beyond whatever is literally in their face. They don't look at a cartoon and go, "Ugh! What is this? My brain is FAR TOO DEVELOPED to be dealing with such SIMPLICITY!" No, they just dislike it because they're rubes.

>>717462473
The whole point I'm trying to make, which you're sort of agreeing with is kids content doesn't touch themes in depth. Any deep/edgy/adult content is hidden behind very cutesy writing, trying to dodge directly tackling those concepts, and that is what all kids shows do. To your
>Isn't that a good thing? Edgy shit is cringey.
You like kids content then. You like that it's simple. By edge it's just a word I'm using I just mean anything with depth, edge, maturity, depth, etc, anything not common in kids writing. You like that. It's fine. It also appeals to children, because they don't understand complex themes yet. They get upset by them. For the same reasons it appeals to autists, because they'll never understand those themes they're incapable. I actually like undertale. It's fun. I like turn based combat. I'm just not obsessed with it, and I get why children like it.
>Undertale explores the purpose of video game characters, and how it's difficult but more beneficial to you to be a pacifist when violence is so easy, which is true to real life. It doesn't explore the idea of whether it's a good idea to free someone from imprisonment if you know they'll go out and murder people because, well, there's really only one answer to that question.
It's more of 'it's implied,' because that's what kids writing does. You can't argue in presentation it is dorky skeleton, cool girl, and nice mom lady. Yeah sure it's fun, that's why I had fun with it. That's also why it's kids and autists flock to it though.
>>717462605
I've already addressed that. I've said children's media can be enjoyable for adults, because adults don't want complexity all the time. Football is fun because adults get drunk, and hang out. Jurassic Park would scare the shit out of certain children, so there's some depth there for adults. It's just on occasion adults also want to consume media that isn't kids media.

>tfw you know the real inspiration behind Omori
RELEASE THE FILES

>>717463142
>Go watch Gargoyles and come back. Kids' content should not be dumbed down which you're implying.
I've seen Gargoyles. Yes I like gargoyles, but I was also a kid when it was on, so I don't know if it holds up. There are exceptions, but you can't really argue that what I'm explaining isn't the norm, especially nowadays. Kids content did used to have way more edge yeah.

>>717419490
>Plus it filters women because it offers too many choices.
Nope, my Dutch girlfriend beat it and loved it.

>>717463270
>I think a retard who just wants to sail the ocean and eat meat or a kid struggling to not to just solve their problems with violence when they're so capable
I've already addressed that it's presentation. Kids content presents itself in a way it doesn't play with any more adult concepts it brings up. It glosses over them simply, or does this whole 'implied' thing everyone has already mentioned. And for like the fifth time simplicity is A-B plot, standard plot structure, etc. >>717463481

>>717463481
>By edge it's just a word I'm using I just mean anything with depth, edge, maturity, depth, etc, anything not common in kids writing. You like that. It's fine. It also appeals to children, because they don't understand complex themes yet
I get the idea that little kids can't comprehend how someone saying they like the taste of blood or going on a mass killing spree out of vengeance could be a "good guy." Like for them, these things are black and white, whereas for an adult, the real world is shades of gray. But the reality is those things genuinely are bad and so you very much so are a worse person for them. People who watch Breaking Bad and True Detective aren't "adults capable of handling complexity," they're "kinda' shitty people who relate to other kinda' shitty people." Once they hit puberty and realized their parents were hiding sex and alcohol from them, sex and alcohol became their entire lives. They didn't throw away cartoons because their brain matured, they just found their true calling. They're eternal 13-year olds.
For the record, I know you don't think something is complex just because it has sex and gore in it, but what I'm trying to say is that I think you're conflating the average adult enjoying a game because they're an adult with the average adult enjoying a game because they're average, and the only reason they didn't like that stuff when they were a kid is because their parents tried to stop them from seeing it.
>it is dorky skeleton, cool girl, and nice mom lady
I feel like you really want to simplify it because it's a cartoon, but most realistic casts can be described in similarly dismissive ways. If Muffet were 3DPD, would she actually be a different character? No, she'd just look less fuckable.

>>717442986
>You seem to be very fixated on shitting on them
There's a lot of people on here that shit on the fanbase. And can you blame them? They've been non stop ruining the website for the past ten years.

>>717419356 (OP)
As much as people tell you to go in spoiler free, Undertale is really only fun you you now about the 2 routes and pick one of them. Pacifist if you enjoy narrative heavy games with multiple distractions and some comedy, genocide if you enjoy grinding and a couple of difficult battles.

Haven't Omoried yet

>>717467486
Yeah I think at this point it's best to just play the best route in Undertale as your first one.
As for Omori, it's the same. Just play the good route first. Actually it's even more important in Omori than in Undertale. If I played hikki first, I definitely wouldn't have enjoyed the game nearly as much as I did.

>>717466979
>They've been non stop ruining the website for the past ten years.
Ah yes, it's the Undertale fans that ruined 4chan
Not the /pol/faggots who make culture war threads, not the fags who make twitter screencap threads, not the shartyfags, or the incompetent jannies have ruined the site.
It's the fault of the people who are fans of a viddo game

>>717463029
>subtle camel toe

>>717467759
Judging by your image I'm not even going to bother reading your post because I'm sure it'll be biased trash.

>>717467915
Concession accepted

>>717419356 (OP)
Yes

WELCOME TO MR (ANT) TENNA'S MAGICAL MYSTERY THE THREAD!

>>717466979
>They've been non stop ruining the website for the past ten years.
Ah yes, it's the Undertale fans that ruined 4chan
Not the /pol/faggots who make culture war threads, not the fags who make twitter screencap threads, not the shartyfags, or the incompetent jannies have ruined the site.
It's the fault of the people who are fans of a viddo game

>>717455839
It's slop that he cobbled together from the shitty OCs of his donators and stuff he ripped off from earthbound. Seethe harder, retarded fanboy.

>>717468314
>Good writing is when your story has no structure or themes to direct it and everything is random bullshit so nobody can outsmart you
Reminder that "Kris isn't the knight but is working for the knight" was a niche theory among here. It is in fact possible to write something someone could guess without it being something everyone guessed.

>>717467486
>Haven't Omoried yet
Go in as unspoiled as you can(nearly impossible if you've skimmed the thread, but there's still a few things you can still be surprised by).
And remember these tips-
>Open the Door
>Water the flowers every day
>and help every one in town
For the last one, about the only thing you don't have to bother with is the Pet Rocks game, but there's an achievement.

>>717468969
>shitty OCs of his donators
You mean 3 characters? 2 of which being ridiculously hidden away, one needing you to walk back and forth for 2 minutes and the other needing you to enter a specific room on a specific day at a specific time?

The plot twist makes no sense
The police would have easily known that Mari didn't kill herself via the autopsy report

>>717469021
>It is in fact possible to write something someone could guess without it being something everyone guessed
Yes, but does it necessarily makes story better?

If Toby gave a shit about "outsmarting" his fans like they think he does, Chapter 4 wouldn't have been the church
People were calling that shit for YEARS

>>717469290
Yes.

>>717469353
To be fair, that would be too massive of a change. Now, scrapping the OBERON SMOG...

>>717469480
I'm imagining Toby sweating bullets after hearing about the Oberon Smog theory
>"Oh shit they've figured out Gerson is gonna be revived as a Darkner-"
>"Oh nevermind, they think he's the Knight and that it connects to Asriel being secretly dead, it's all good."

>>717469704
If he didn't wanted people to get suspicious over Alvin and Gerson, he wouldn't have included that scene in the graveyard.

>>717422357
>But the people who are super obsessed and subscribe to a reddit for it and make references to it all the time are mentally ill
That's true of basically everything not unique to these two games

>>717469239
I was always under the impression that the adults were fully in the know. Thats why the Dad says Sunny isn't his son and is seeming missing. They were probably too young to actually convict and the authorities could probably handwave it as an accident and some kids felt too guilty to tell the truth.

>>717419356 (OP)
If you can get into them, and play them unspoiled? It's pure unfiltered kinography.

>>717467915
He's right though

>>717469239
autopsies are only done when foul play is suspected, typically not in cases where the assumed cause of death was suicide

>>717463606
>>717463768
I am of the mind that although there can be separate entertainment for kids and adults, it would be nice if there was more overlap. Tolkien cut his teeth as a writer publishing The Hobbit which was a children's story. It ended up so popular among adult fans that they begged him to come up with a sequel, and that's when he started on The Lord of the Rings which was narratively more complex, but which is still appropriate for children to be exposed to. Television under the Hay's Code was pretty much for the whole family, and although police dramas like Dragnet or complex westerns like Have Gun Will Travel were written with adults in mind, children often watched them too. When the Code ended was when a major rift in "childrens'/family" and "adult" entertainment started to arise. Animation, whether that be western cartoon classics or anime, actually went against that trend for a time. I would say that the 2000's and onward, with crackdowns on content and boomers insisting that "animation is for kids" is when the concept of universal entertainment finally fell out of the mainstream. Nowadays, we have to look to indie games for it. Nevertheless, I would say that Deltarune isn't a game for kids, and even Undertale can be questionable at points for a younger audience.
>>717465089
Eh, I don't think you are a worse person for liking morally bad characters in fiction. Shakespearean tragedies are still enjoyed and studied and they tend to have morally grey protagonists who fall towards evil deeds. There's room for that sort of media.

>>717470370
only if you're a retard
you realize there can be more then one cancer killing this board right?

>>717435446
you sound based

>>717467759
not even the thousands of threads made by people just to complain ABOUT undertale!

>>717470789
Nah, those are fine

>>717447231
You watch too many movies, my gf writes down in detail what she wants

There's a sort of pretentious vibe with those two games that are mainly loved by tumblr zoomers. They can never be better than the ones they were heavily inspired by (Mother series, Yume Nikki, etc.)

>>717470980
K keep us posted

>>717471128
Yume Nikki is basically a high schoolers gamedev project. There's rpgmaker games made before it and after it that are better games.

>>717470595
I'm having trouble figuring out exactly why I have such a disinterest in things like GTA and live-action TV shows about terrible people, but I love ASOIAF and HxH which is also full of morally gray characters. I think the difference is one feels more grounded in reality so it comes across as gross and exploitative to me, like it's just pandering to sickos. But I'm not sure. I don't know everything. A lot of people say something similar to what you're saying now, so you might be right. I'm just trying to figure out why. I'm not being argumentative because I think I'm right and you're wrong, I'm trying to understand why you're right, because I'm open to having my mind changed and I want to be right, too. What you're saying just doesn't sound right to me.

Let me put it in a simpler way
>sex
>drugs
>murder
>complex writing
Do you think those four things are the same? I think one of those is not like the others, yet you're saying all four are bundled together under the "adult" label. I don't think complex writing attracts people of an advanced age, I think it attracts people of an advanced intelligence, and adults are smarter than children, but the average adult is still not very smart. I also can't help but notice that when you see adults who are interested in anime and video games, they're not mentally challenged and frozen in their progress from liking "children's toys" instead of "adult toys," I think it's actually the opposite. The same way IQ is correlated with sensitivity and how much you enjoy sweets. Kids become adults and their taste buds die so they start losing their interest in sweets, but smarter adults lose their taste buds more slowly and so like sweets more - which make them seem more childish in that sense. I think the same thing's happening with an appreciation for unrealistic art. A normalfag can't get into something that doesn't look real but intellectuals can spend all day talking about The Lion King and Pinocchio.

>>717471128
Omori is way better than yume nikki

>>717419356 (OP)
you need to be an autistic gay teen

>>717419356 (OP)
I liked Undertale, Deltarune, and Omori.
I'm pretty sure I'm not autistic, I'm definitely not gay or trans, I'd call myself a Leftist but I'm also extremely racist.
I also liked Steven Universe but I did not care for MLP now or back in its heyday.

>>717476129
fim was just precure for westerners.

>>717475410
Structurally yes.
Spiritually it's Shotacon Yume Nikki.
And that's a good thing. Look at how precious this boy is.

>>717476129
>I also liked Steven universe
The depths of faggotry on display in this thread are endless