Thread 717422810

Are video games art?

some are
99.9% isn't

>>717422810 (OP)
They're art for the masses, i.e. art with no value beyond entertainment

everything is art, even shitposts
art doesnt mean good, art can be shit

Yes
Reason: It is illegal to censor art, I hope everyone understands this now

Given how thin the definition has been stretched by modern art fags, yeah. Some are even genuinely good art, that actually use the interactivity aspect to accomplish a method of expression unavailable to other mediums. The discussion is generally mired both by pseuds and man children who want to glorify the hobby.

>>717422958
>It is illegal to censor art
boy howdy do i have some news for you

>>717422810 (OP)
Too old

>>717422810 (OP)
>haven't been on sketchfab in awhile
>shit ton of models that are just lidar scans of pornstars

>Music: art
>3D graphics: art
>writing: art
>Put them together in a video game: Some people insist the product is not art

>>717422953
This. I consider anything that could inspire me an art.

>>717423045
You'll have to equivocate on the definitions of art and artistic merit and all that other shit to justify censorship of particular things.

>>717422810 (OP)
Yeah.
>>717422953
This. Art isn't sacred, it's a normal aspect of the himan existence. Scratch some drawings into the wall of a cave. Animate big anime tiddies. It's all good.

>>717423080
A gallery is a collection of art, but is not, itself, art

This is art.

>>717422810 (OP)
Video games are entertainment products that contain art, but are not art themselves.

>>717422810 (OP)
Why is Pragmata treated so badly when statue sculptors do this shit?

>>717422810 (OP)
yes. Any video game with a little girl in it is art as little girls are art incarnate.

ive got a couple examples saved at home, very intricate detail of the art

>>717423197
don't let curatorfags hear this

>>717423187
>Art isn't sacred, it's a normal aspect of the himan existence. Scratch some drawings into the wall of a cave. Animate big anime tiddies. It's all good.
Is that really true though? The term art(s) often gets applied in contexts that denote some degree of skill. Phrases like medical/martial arts, I mean.

>>717423197
>what is multimedia art

>>717423457
If I put a bunch of paintings and a music CD in a box the box doesn’t suddenly become art.

>>717423197
designing a gallery is an art, the same way interior design is an art

>>717422810 (OP)
They're products.

>>717423540
If I put some paint onto a canvas, the canvas doesn't become art either

>>717423540
yeah that's also nothing like the process of creating a video game where the assets are made to make up a whole, instead of being random shit grabbed and put together, retard-kun

>>717423295
pragmata has actual pedophiles that use the threads to get together and share actual CP via catbox links. Its gotten so bad that catbox's owner has lost payment processor support so the entire hosting service is gonna die soonish if it doesnt stop

>>717422810 (OP)
by far the hottest statue ever made

>>717422810 (OP)
They're not. The god of vidya said so

>>717423420
i think what you're saying applies to calling yourself an artist or not more than if something is art itself. you can draw something and if it's bad it's still art, it's just bad. if you develop some kind of skill then you could reasonably call yourself an artist though.

I'm gonna buy clay

>>717422810 (OP)
why did you save this image?

>>717423621
Ok, but if I put a bunch of paintings in a box and when you open it the music CD automatically plays doesn’t make the box art either.

How does one commission a naked hebe statue?

>>717423786
I guess that's a fair distinction. I just hate how, without the imposition of certain standards, the modern art world has greatly degraded the concept as a whole. The lack of skill from someone who has the tools to be skillfully but chooses not to is what rubs me the wrong way. I can appreciate a cave drawing because it's a pure form of expression done as best as it can be by someone with limited means, same with children's drawings. But a PhD college grad making a giant scribble on the canvas is just insulting.

>>717423838
In order to be illegal it has to be made using a child.. not marble.
the law cares about hurting living humans. it doesn't really care if you molest rocks.

>>717423942
these days youd just take a picture of a girl
have chatgpt turn it into a 3d model and 3d print it

>>717422810 (OP)
Imagine if a ton of gooners started making lifelike statues once they ban all porn off the internet? haha everyone becomes a wicked artisan because they banned hentai

>>717423420
It's kind of the same with skill though innit, you can possess a skill to a lesser or greater degree but when people say "skilled" they generally mean exceptionally so. And we see the same with art, something can be good art or shit art, but people will say "now that's art" when they mean something is particularly artful.
And that itself is not too dissimilar to saying "now that's a coffee" when you've got a particularly good coffee

>>717422810 (OP)
Yeah, they obviously are.

>>717424008
Then why is loli porn illegal as far as the federal government is concerned?

>>717423420
>The term art(s) often gets applied in contexts that denote some degree of skill.
Art is the application of skill, doesn't mean you have to be highly skilled.

>>717424108
>Then why is loli porn illegal
it's not

>>717424025
good morning sir

>>717424084
From a functionalist perspective, yes, it's undeniable.

>>717424048
Gooners don't have skills or talent.

>>717424056
That's a good way of looking at it.
Also wow, /v/ is so much more pleasant to use when discussing literally anything other than video games huh.

>>717424152
It's illegal under federal law and is treated the same as child pornography.

>>717424180
lol

STATUE OF WHAT?!

>>717424281
>It's illegal under federal law
Wrong.

>>717424368
Retard.

>>717424413
there is no need to sign your posts here

>>717423735
Fucking damn. Isn't that a child

>>717424275
We are literally talking about if video games are art, retard

>>717422810 (OP)
she's 110 year old you sick fuck

>>717422810 (OP)
Wait. Is it legal to pay a child to pose nude for a statue or painting? I don't see how that would be acceptable but how else are you going to make a statue without or painting without reference?

>>717424357
limitations

>>717424281
You can look up loli porn on nhentai and nothing will happen. It's lines on paper. You're retarded if you think loliporn is illegal. Look at the guys posting sculptures of children in this thread. Nothing happening? Because it's all art.

Millstone around the neck and drowned in the ocean. Enjoy hell, pedo.

>>717424448
Got me good

>>717424464
It's a hunk of bronze modeled into a child. So no. It's not a child.

>>717423295
well, imagine if you broke that statue with a hammer, and inside it you found a stash of CSAM

>>717423735
where can I buy stuff like this to put in my garden

>>717424632
wouldn't have been possible in the first place if you weren't retarded and spreading incorrect interpretations of the law
here is a real world example
Fakku sells access to loli manga, Fakku accepts credit cards
If it was illegal on a federal level they wouldn't be able to do that.

>>717424582
Probably, you probably need to already have some kind of fame or recognition before you try it. You'd probably need to prove you're going to actually make art from it. I imagine this is easier in Europe.

>>717422958
It's 2025 now, anon

>>717424782
I'm not the one you were talking to...

>>717424830
she has an ugly face so I dont care

>>717424845
you either agreed to his point or were pretending to be him
point also applies to you

>>717424884
Post an attractive woman's face. The sculpture looks fine what the fuck is your standard lmfao

>>717423735
That's nice art

>>717422810 (OP)
Who cares?

>>717424830
>taryn kaur

>>717424950
jaw too big, nose too big

>>717424830
There are a fuck ton of little mermaid statues in Denmark though...

>>717422810 (OP)
No and that's a good thing. All of those that want them to be art are pretentious faggots and movie niggers that don't know what fun is.

>>717424915
No? I just liked the joke. Damn, you autists really can't take a compliment.

>We need to ban pictures of kids being raped because they encourage kids being raped
Okay what about pictures of naked kids who aren't being raped?
>Th-those are just as bad we have to ban them too don't ask why

>>717424884
Censorship apologist mindset.

>>717423634
feels like i've been randomly coming across pedophiles in threads more lately. they need to fuck off. and pointing it out will have other anons only half realizing it but wanting to stay in denial that there's an actual pedophile there.

>>717424830
the statue was causing rapestorms something had to be done

>>717424301
Now print and frame this post then sell for $$$

>>717422810 (OP)
What museums have hebe statue collections? I'd like to visit one someday. To appreciate the art...

>>717425000
Low T

>>717422810 (OP)
>>717423735
I have never seen statue of ancient Greece or Roman being this erotic, are these modern ones?

>>717422958
>Are video games art
>Yes, because I don't want them to be censored
You don't impose a definition to satisfy your demands, mouthbreather. get some logic.
>Yeah umm janitors is skilled work because I want to get paid more

>>717425023
a game doesn't need to be sony movieslop level in order to be art. Mario 64 is art

>>717424830
who deemed it, though?

Why is the human mind so utterly BTFO about the female nipple specifically? No one gives a flying fucking shit about the male nipple.

>>717425110
the pedophile problem exploded after ick on the eck poster started advertising his vpn service that gets around all the vpn blocks. That's what they are all using to ban evade

>>717425162
If T makes you want to fuck ugly women I dont want it

>>717425172
Look up The Rape of Proserpina. I've seen tons of erotic Greek statues.

>>717425208
Okay, janitoring is no longer work. Nothing is anything.

>>717425253
Oh trust me buddy, you already don't have any

>>717425252
hope they end up like that one pedo who thought hiding his face with a filter would protect him but he was caught anyway

>>717425373
The entire posting history was logged and leaked already.

>>717425250
>the human mind
It is one singular country that I won't name, but you know which one I'm talking about.

>>717425373
one can only hope. Catbox being at risk of being shut down because its been cutoff by CC companies for CP being hosted through its service (despite the owner's best attempt to stop it) is already grim

>>717422810 (OP)
should caravaggio be considered CP?

>>717425153
I actually found out that OPs pick isn't very far away from where I'm visiting next month. Might stop by.

>>717425448
No but I don't want to see anymore of it. Stick to female inspired examples please.

>>717422810 (OP)
>paint art in real life
>it's art
>put painting into video game
>it's not art
simple as
video game = artless

>>717425245
Nobody really. It's just clickbait about an artist calling both this statue and many others for ugly and poorly made.

>>717425373
I'm sure that was just made up by the FBI to make them seem like epic hackers because when in history has anyone ever tried to censor a picture with a swirly effect instead of just using a black square or cropping it?

I was expecting a thread about art

>>717425250
Our class of life is called mammal (mammaries). We live in the MILKY way galaxy. Titties and milkies are the most important thing to the human race from the moment they're born. White people are globally considered the master race because they have developed their stomachs to tolerate milk from any animal.

>>717425667
its like 50/50. Pedophiles doing stupid shit like that matches their pattern of behavior because they all have some kind of urge to essentially brag about being a pedophile and taunt that they cant be caught

>>717425715
People only started caring about nipples like 300 years ago. Rich women used to show off their boobs in fashion and poor women had their tits out at all times because they were always feeding babies.

>>717423735
hot

>>717425667
people get away with shit for a while and get comfortable thinking they won't get caught and don't have to be as careful

>>717424830
You can tell a flat roastie wrote this.

>>717425448
No. Naked little boys are universally agreed to be the apex of human arts and culture.