Thread 717433220

Why does it seem like 90% of the things I do in this game amount to literally nothing aside from a bit of lore flavor text?

>>717433220 (OP)
you came to the right neighborhood fren

>>717433220 (OP)
I got like 90% through the game and just dropped it. Zero motivation to keep going through the same repetitive motion chasing red herring dead ends for zero payoff aside from my ship log updating.

Got to the sun station (which I probably reached way later than the average player) thinking SURELY that was the missing link that I had skipped over that would make everything connect... but nope.... just another completely pointless dead end that does nothing except give a bit of flavor text and a ship log update.

What a miserable, tedious, repetitive, obnoxious game

>>717433220 (OP)
Why has this game upset you so much you need to keep telling everyone how much it upset you? Did it bang your girlfriend or something jeez

>explore attlerock
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore the underwater tunnels under timber hearth
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore interloper
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore sun station
>dead end that leads to nothing
>find all the reddit spacemen
>dead ends that lead to nothing
>explore white hole station
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore entirety of giant's hollow
>rewording of what you learned in the tutorial of the game, except emphasizing that for some reason you can't both look at a quantum moon and land it on it at the same time (...wut?)
>explore the core of giant's hollow
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore hanging city
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore sunless city
>dead end that leads to nothing
>explore all the ash twin warp pads
>dead end that leads to nothing
boy howdy do I love this gay fucking game, totally not a waste of my fucking time

You've been at this for like 4 days right?

>>717433220 (OP)
The DLC is even worse. I feel like the fans of this """game""" have more fun talking about it than actually playing it.

>>717433220 (OP)
don't worry it's just ancient aliens.

>>717433220 (OP)
>mom i posted it again!
Why do you keep making these threads after being told you are a retard?

You may be suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning, OP. Please call an inspector or something.

>>717433220 (OP)
>the same anti OW thread for a week straight, slightly modified
>can't decide if I should hate the guy or the absolute fucking state of the internet making genuine conversation impossible

>>717433220 (OP)
What do you expect it to amount to? It's a video game.

Im loving this literal retard spamming its autistic shitfit. Great content.

>>717435805
Can't blame someone when I try and be earnest with what I want to talk about and get ignored.

>>717433220 (OP)
I guess because you're stupid, The game is wide open from the start. The only thing limiting you is your ability to perceive things and experiment. You can beat the game in like ten minutes on a new save if you know everything.

>>717435973
Still it's impossible to have any ground on this corpse of a website to talk openly, all the replies itt are going to be mainly antagonizing OP over just talking about the game. The short timeframe when 4shit was down was a gift because on alternate chans users were real people. And the post volume was low enough but not too low to let people think before they would write something.

Now they're back to being dead

>>717436649
That's what happens when you have a mod team that gives zero fucks about the site combined with a massive website made solely for the purpose of shitting this site (and more specifically, this board) up.
Not that it will matter in the near future. The internet as we know it will disappear when you will be required to identify yourself going online.

>>717436127
>you can guess this number 1-1000 correctly on your first guess if you already know the correct number
Do you realize how completely fucking stupid you sound??

unless your an emotional person the game sucks

One day we'll get a genuine thread on this game

>>717437413
We already did. The alpha threads were amazing and the threads during the weeks after the base game and then the DLC were released were also amazing.

>WHERE'S THE YELLOW PAINT???
>WHERE'S THE TUTORIAL TEXT???
>WHERE'S THE LOADING SCREEN TIPS???
>WHERE'S THE QUEST MARK???
>I CAN'T PLAY THIS SHIT

>>717433220 (OP)
Because it is an exploration game, if you're trying to sell a game where you uncover what an ancient civilization did before you, and all the text you find is not lore but directions like:
>Log 1: Dear reader, go to point A and do B. End of log.
>Log 2: Dear reader, machine C needs component D. End of log.
then you’ve failed at selling the atmosphere.

Look at Metroid Prime. It is an action-exploration game. Everyone in those threads has a good laugh reading the Space Pirate logs, even though they are nothing but "a bit of flavor text." There is also the Chozo or the designated local alien life lore, wherever the mission takes place, and 100% of it is optional. However, it helps make the world believable.
If it’s not for you, then refund it. No one is forcing you to play it, OP.

>>717436127
It takes the average player 25 hours to beat, not 100%, just the base game, not the DLC, even with occasionally looking things up. And for 100% or DLC or totally blind, it's way longer. And those come from HLTB and gamefaqs so casual players are much longer.

You can see 95% of the game in first 1-2 hours so that's a LOT of fucking padding and tedium and red herrings

Fuck outta here with your
>muh perfect knowledge perfect foresight WR speedrun!!!
You fucking retarded subhuman

>>717433361
>>717433443
It’s one of my least favorite games. Not one of the worst games I’ve played, but one of the games I’ve enjoyed the least. It’s so boring. The music sucks, the art style is repugnant, the gameplay loop sucks. I like the general idea (hence why I tried to make it “click” so many times) but good God is it so boring.

So this thread was just made so that three Anons could feel good about themselves knowing that there are like two other people who didn't like the game and they can act like Gods for not liking it?

I played Outer Wilds and Pathologic 2, which were both requested by one (1) anon.
Both were quite amazing and made it into my top 10.

>>717437826
It's amazing how the first week or so of a new game release is filled with genuine conversation and interesting discussion, and then it's like a switch gets flipped and the quality of conversation plummets like a fucking rock.

>>717438848
>B-but Criu-
Nah I'm gonna save gaming.
Pathologic 3 is going to be KINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyTrlYLMyKc

>>717433220 (OP)
The game is one big clockwork puzzle, with a series of smaller puzzles to collect clues for the big puzzle.
There is nothing to unlock or progress except knowledge of how to solve the big puzzle.

>>717436902
The point is that there's nothing artificially gating you from making progress.

I wish I could erase my memory of playing Outer Wilds to play it all over again

>>717438351
Yes you can see all the puzzle pieces, but you have no idea how to put them together or what the final picture is.
God damn you people are bummers

>>717436902
Outer wilds is not a guessing game. If it was for you, I'm sorry to say that you're stupid

>>717439114
Im forgetting more and more every day. Maybe in five years I'll forget enough to play it again

>>717438848
>Pathologic 2
did u get the fever dreams?

>>717439079
Yes, instead it's
>follow the hundreds of red herring dead ends to find the few that actually matter in any way

>>717439297
The meta commentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjCAF6bnuYM
>But what you think of as zeroes and ones are actual people
Kino

>>717438943
It's, mostly a combination of the initial wave of people interested in discussing the game wading while the usual suspects discover the threads and start shitting it up, making it next to impossible for people who were a little late to really discuss it.
I think the last good example of this was Signalis? I'd say Snoot Game, but that game had its own problems (the mods being humorless candyasses).

>>717438351
>that's a LOT of fucking padding and tedium
There is legitimate tedium in the game. Let me list it:
>Hourglass Teleporters
>Fish area inside Bramble (since you have to go slow)
>DLC puzzles that are tied to the water level
>Tower of quantum knowledge (Even though you dont need it and even then you can reach it with by orbiting the black hole and your jetpack)
I am fairly certain that everything else in the game can be completed quickly. Once you've explored a hard to reach place once, you either have everything you need from it (meaning you don't need to repeat it) or a shortcut is revealed at the end for future use (reducing tedium).
The ship's computer is specifically designed for players who can't be bothered to sit down and analyze what they've just read. So, even that part of the "tedium" can be skipped if you don't want to think for yourself.
So no, it is not a LOT of tedium, as you claim, Anon.

>>717439414
>I'd say Snoot Game, but that game had its own problems (the mods being humorless candyasses).
Initial Snoot treads were a fucking gas, man I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
>it's been 4 years since Snoot came out

>>717433220 (OP)
I have enjoyed this game in vr immensely. The problem is the performance is absolute garbage. I have an iron stomach, but even though the game has low fidelity, it pushes great hardware to the brink, so frame delivery is ass, and it causes dips below 90 way too often, which is the only time I get nauseas. I can jetpack and do flips in the spaceship all day if it’s locked. The devs should release an official vr version, and then I’ll actually finish the game.

>>717439556
>>it's been 4 years since Snoot came out

>>717439289
95% of the game is just pointless dead ends with some lore flavor text
4% is knowledge, much of which you could just figure out yourself
1% is actual critical path

Seems like a guessing game to me

>>717433220 (OP)
>play lore game
>why is most of the game lore?

>>717438529

the music? really? I thought it was really good. I get not liking the game, but I'm surprised that there are people who don't like the music.

>>717433220 (OP)
>nothing aside from a bit of lore flavor text?
you should read the text anon, often it just guides you to where you have to explore, or how to do it, or just when to do it
everything the game gives you only serves exploration and advancing you to your final objective

>>717439736
>95% of the game is just pointless dead ends with some lore flavor text
NTA, but it sure sounds like you failed to pick up on many, many clues.
The clues the game holds aren't even hidden solely in the text. They're present in the surroundings as well.
In fact, you could ignore ALL text present in the game and figure out what to based on observation alone.

>>717433220 (OP)
that's because that's the entire game
it's a walking simulator with a shitty gimmick so midwits cream themselves over it

>go to planet a
>do skyrim-tier puzzle
>get boring ass exposition about the type of toilet paper extinct aliens use
>tells you to go to planet b
>get to planet b, start to do another skyrim-tier puzzle
>time runs out, start over

You do this over and over until you find the one actual right path in the game. That's it.
It's a fucking shit game, of course nu-/v/ loves it. It's the slightly more pretentious equivalent of normies loving Souls games because they think souls games are 'hardcore', even though they're piss easy.

>>717439998
>you could ignore ALL text present in the game
It's been a while since I played, but could you really figure out the quantum gimmick without text?

>>717440218
Yes, considering the text in the tower only serves as a hint.
You grasp the concept entirely yourself through experimentation and practice.

>>717439893
I had redneck banjo music. I have a deep hatred for the South, being a Yankee and all.

>>717439685
I hope Wani was a suitable replacement.
>>717439534
While there are a few tedium-based events that require you dick around and wait for specific timepoints, it can be a little tedious if you're not fully understanding what you need to do and continue to bash your head against an obstacle instead of doing something else. I was guilty of this when I first started because I had been conditioned by most modern puzzle games to think that the solution should be at the same location as the puzzle.

>>717439849
>find scribble on wall
>translate
>it's a bunch of ancient alien drivel about doink wanting to ask zoink out on a date

>read ancient alien lore that delves into the mysteries of the universe and imparts the knowledge to reach new and interesting places.
kino

>>717440323
>you can figure it out via trial and error
Isn't this the case for, like, any puzzle?

>>717433361
>>717438529
the game rewards you for putting in the mental effort
it can be obnoxious when you try to fill in the blanks or you crap out and get unlucky and miss a key puzzle but once it all clicks it's very satisfying and the final run is one of the most memorable experiences in gaming

>>717433220 (OP)
why havent you beaten it yet then?

>>717440365
average outer wilds enjoyer argument

>>717440429
>realizing the Sun Station Project failed to work

>>717433220 (OP)
>I NEED TO SEE NUMBER GO UP

pathetic

>multiple veetards getting filtered by a game that even fucking redditors are smart enough to appreciate
Grim

>>717440773
>legitimately bragging about enjoying a r*ddit game
man, this place has gone to shit
i remember when /v/ used to shit on undertale every thread to the point it was impossible to discuss it here
now we have generals for it
i miss that week or so 4chan shut down, you 'people' are such subhumans, just go back to r*ddit where you belong

>>717440201
>puzzle game has narrative
>WTF THIS GAME IS FOR BABIES WALKING SIMULATOR NORMIE SLOP WALKING SIMULATOR
in better times we'd just shoot retards like you

>>717439360
Fine fuck off. Don't play the best puzzle game ever. Stay in your anime corner

>>717441037
>>legitimately bragging about enjoying a game
how dare they
on /v/ of all places
dumb nigger

I played this game twice, the second time because of the DLC, and both times i landed on the sun station by suiciding into the sun like 10 times with my ship until i got a stable orbit, i still don't know how you're meant to get there legit.

>>717441171
iirc there's a warp pad that gets you across from the room where you're supposed to go
I wouldn't know though because I still died trying to jump the chasm every time

>>717433361
unironically filtered

>>717433220 (OP)
>constant barrage of PLAY OUTER WILDS
>play outer worlds instead
>got much better game

>>717440461
the final puzzle is statistically highly improbably to do by trial and error
even if someone pointed you in a general direction you couldn't get halfway there without some very specific prerequisite knowledge

>>717441037
While it is true that some games have a horrendous fanbase that make discussion impossible. This one is kind of the opposite: You got some fun enjoyers like >>717441171, and then you have people that open the thread for the sole purpose of shitposting
So whats the big idea. Forbid any thread that it get shitposted hard enough?

>>717441098
>best puzzle game ever
The Witness mogs this game from outer orbit

>>717442286
I love the witness so much but outer wilds is way cooler.

>>717441697
The only thing that isn't probable is to figure the hourglass teleporters work. It is not impossible, but everything else is likely to be done by accident. I found the Vessel by messing around for example.
What makes it "improbable" as a whole is that just by messing around, you're likely to find clues. These clues would then invalidate the trial and error run since you have the knowledge now, wherever you wanted the knowledge or not.

>>717441171
One of the teleport towers on ash twin goes to the sun station. The puzzle is that the hallway to the teleport pad is covered in cacti so you have to either be good at using your jetpack to fly past them or get there just as the door is revealed by the lowering sand level so the cacti on the floor are still covered by the sand

>>717442370
Zoomers can't "mess around". They have had a tablet glued to their face since birth, constantly drawing their attention. If the tablet turns off for any reason they cry and mommy fixes it for them and they go back into stupor. They dont understand "play", they need a guide at all times, preferably someone else playing for them and commenting. I've seen this in the workforce now too. People can't figure anything out because they refuse to play.

>>717442370
you can't just "figure out" the password lol

>>717433220 (OP)
if it's not for you, it's not for you

>>717442928
No, I actually quite enjoyed the exploration at first when it was new and there was that sense of wonder, awe, and tension.

It was only after I started doing the same loops over and over for hours tying up all these dozens of loose (dead) ends, retreading the same areas, waiting for tiny timed windows to have a small chance to read a few lore tidbits or solve a pointless puzzle, chasing YET ANOTHER red herring that amounts to absolutely nothing, that I ultimately realized this is just a waste of time and the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I've seen the vast majority of what the game has to offer and the honeymoon period has worn off, now it's just become tired and tedious

>>717433220 (OP)
>>717433361
>>717433443
Sorry, this game isn't for brown people. You can't enjoy it without a drive to explore and uncover the truth of the universe.

>>717443287
See >>717443243

>>717443065
Oh right, forgot about that part. My bad

The only thing holding this game back from being a 10/10 is the god awful writing. They just HAD to get the lead designer's faggot sister to be narrative lead. You have the ideal game structure to serve as the backdrop to exisentialism and grappling with the fear of death, and instead we get they/them aliens and whedon quips.

>>717440386
>I hope Wani was a suitable replacement.
I dodged that corpo-product like it was hot lava.

>>717443428
it's endearing
that's the smart direction to take it, to contrast the gameplay and setting
doubling down on edgelord or 2deep4u writing may seem complementary but it would significantly detract from the experience and it would unironically insist upon itself

>>717443820
>it's endearing
No, it's not, it's insipid and above all, unfunny. "Insisting upon itself" is just cope for millenials who are afraid of sincerity in their writing. Hence their love of irreverent Marvel garbage. You can have both endearing and more sobering writing in the same game. The Hearthians could be jovial and naive, and this could contrast with the cold distance of the long dead Nomai. But instead, everyone comes across like a faggot.

>>717444232
well the DLC did away with writing altogether for people like you and I happen to like visual storytelling better anyway
a bit bleak though

>>717444673
>a bit bleak though
such is life