Thread 717565214

Why do you think the average IQ of a PC gamer has fallen in the past decade?

>>717565214 (OP)
Because PC gaming stopped being nerdy. Back in the day you had to know how to install drivers, mess with INI files, troubleshoot IRQ conflicts-hell, even build your own rig from scratch just to get a game running. Now it’s plug-and-play, RGB vomit pre-builts, and launchers doing everything for you. It’s more accessible than ever, but accessibility comes with a price: the floodgates opened and now you’ve got the same people who used to play console only whining about frame stutters and getting dunked on in CS2.

>>717565214 (OP)
lil zooms wanting to be like their streamdaddies brought in an extremely low IQ crowd

>>717565214 (OP)
It was always the low iq brown and r*ssian platform

>>717565214 (OP)
>scared of going into bios
zoomies are so pathetic kek

>>717565581
The worst part is, OP is considered tech savvy for his generation. Your average iPad kid doesn't even know what a file or folder is.
t. works in IT

>>717565663
what the fuck do they think is on a computer then?

>>717565723
Apps!

iPad babbies all growed up and are just as computer illiterate as the boomers they're supposed to be replacing.

>>717565723
They call everything an "app" and just complain if it doesn't work out of the box. They're used to Apple's hyper-restrictive user permissions so they don't even know it's possible to change things or troubleshoot the most basic issues.

Millennials will be the last tech literate generation, we'll be fixing computers until we're fucking 90 at this rate

Honestly, Steam has been a distaster for PC gaming.
One-click installs, auto patching, cloud saves, etc. Everything is too automated and so easy to use any retard can click the giant green play button and join your game.

>>717565812
absolutely terrifying

>>717565663
>>717565812
can confirm
my younger cousin thinks I'm a "hacker" because I changed the resolution on his game from the .cfg file when he asked me to help

>>717565663
Speaking of IT the other part of this lack of knowledge is shit like pic related.
>Game updates and starts crashing
>runs to steam fourms looking for help
>didn't bother disabling the 3rd party mod that runs on top of the fucking game
Its simple shit like this that's baffling about new age users/zoomers. As time goes on companies are going to ignore any issues brought up by the pc player base. Shit why wouldn't they at this point.

>>717565214 (OP)
Ask your self you fucking imbecile.
Posting a cap of a guy who doesn't want to mess with shit he doesn't understand as a proof of dropping IQ tells more about your room temperature IQ than about the rest of the world's dropping.

>>717567028
Zoom zoom. Imagine getting a pc for "gaming" and not being comfortable with the bios for OC, XMP, etc.
Fucking retards are afraid of the device that's the pinnacle of tinkering. If he's that worried and pussy foot to go on fucking steam fourms.
Buy a fucking console you fag.

>>717567028
Actually this is a good point, the common sense not to touch something you don't understand is a good thing. At least within reason, you have to learn somehow, preferably without bricking your OS or causing a boot loop. I've done the latter before, it didn't feel good.

complaining about young people is sad and embarrassing

>>717567408
It's a real problem when the younger generation is significantly less tech savvy than the previous one, this is the first case of that since the dawn of the information age. Zoomers aren't toddlers anymore, they don't have an excuse.

>>717567408
I am young and the same age as these people
I mock them because they are retards.

>>717567485
It's not the generation's fault, it's the faggy ass corporations that were allowed to influence them. If Apple died back in the 90s we'd be much better off.
If you want to save tech literacy then try to ruin them. "Vote with your wallet" doesn't work, you have to actively sabotage the shitty corpos.

>>717567408
So is posting on this site

>>717566807
It does worry me that something as powerful as being able to Google a question and get, at least a mildly helpful response, is something that newer generations just don't use. I'm not asking for deep computer literacy, just the ability to open their phone and ask Google how to change a setting on their computer.

>>717565214 (OP)
100%
Just look at /v/, it has the by far dumbest users on 4chan, quite a feat.

>>717565214 (OP)
My old pc literally has no secure boot unless i buy a tpm module, and it's not that old.

>>717565214 (OP)
Explain what's wrong with this post. BIOS controls the functions of the computer. If you mess with the BIOS, you mess with the functions of the computer.

>>717567906
Do they not do this in schools anymore? I'm only 30 30 IS YOUNG and I remember a lot of days in the computer lab that were basically
>find 2 websites on this topic that aren't wikipedia
>write a mini essay answering these questions
>cite your sources, btw here is how you cite a source properly
>also here are some guidelines on what makes a decent website to source and what to avoid

>>717568045
You still can reboot the computer and access the BIOS again to undo whatever damage you caused

The zoomer I'm currently training at work confessed to me he writes all his work emails using ChatGPT because he "doesn't want to sound unprofessional"

Just had to get that off my chest

>>717567485
>>717567610
Making everything easier makes people less resourceful. I don't know how to fix it, we won't make technology harder to use just to train people.
I guess schools should be responsible for teaching new generations how to function in the world, but the education programs and teachers themselves completely fail at keeping the interest of kids and young people. They don't want to go to school and don't pay attention and I don't blame them, the lessons are boring and they don't teach anything useful in real life. It's almost guaranteed you will not be solving quadratic equations at work and nobody will ever ask what you think about some 700 page 19th century book.

>>717565214 (OP)
Because it used to be white Americans and japs doing it. Now it's you faggots.

>>717568097
>actually doing the assignments and not just playing Typing of the Dead in computer labs in school
Check out this fucking nerd

>Back in the day everyone was editing their system32 and making mods for their games
>These kids today wouldn't know how to install doom without steam!
Usually only one person on the internet did that and everyone else stole their work.
Gamer IQ was never high. I'd say only 1 in 100 attempted to port forward to host a game and even less figured it out, and remember you never did it without a program someone else wrote.

>>717568551
Hamachi was for bitches.

I think we should all make retarded threads on the forum and scare all the zoomers into thinking the BIOS is the scariest thing they'll ever witness
>Guys I entered the BIOS screen like they asked but the only option comes up is to delete system32 and when I clicked "no" it started doing it anyway. I tried to stop it by turning it off and now it won't turn on again? Why did I even want to play this game in the first place?!

>>717568296
Some zoomer unironically has/will use chatgpt write vows or an obituary/eulogy
They're gonna be a dehumanized generation. I almost feel sorry for them. Maybe uncle Ted was right.

>>717565214 (OP)
It's because of console refugees.

>>717568598
And gamers are bitches.

>>717565214 (OP)
more turdies on the internet

i just don't want to restart my pc

>>717568398
>Because it used to be white Americans and japs doing it.
more jeets and mulattos getting online asking for bobs and vagene.

>>717568296
do these people actually like it when they're on the receiving end of chatgpt prose or do they lack the ability to think that far?

>>717565214 (OP)
porn and gooning

>>717565430
Shut up retard, none of that was ever any more complicated than today, except for setting up network shit.
Also, what has changed about knowing how to install drivers compared to "back in the day"? You get the driver from somewhere, you install it, wow big deal.
And if you think "building your own rig" is an achievement, then congrats, you are one of the retards.
Let me guess, you're black and some bong newspaper called you a kid genius?

>>717565214 (OP)
Messing with the bios has always been a step up in competence. This particular issue is not an IQ changed matter.
FFS, you really think people who were comfortable changing a few values in their config.sys, didn't hesitate a bit when adding a new hard drive, and realizing they had to set all its particulars manually, including MBR?
Anyone born in the plug & play era got no fucking right dunking like OP.

>>717565214 (OP)
I was 22 before the first time I installed an OS
I'm 32 now. It's a reasonable fear.

>>717569631
its all way easier now.

funny that everyone's ignoring that parents should be teaching their kids how to do this shit
that's what we complain about boomers doing, right?

>>717570035
Honestly kids need to learn on their own. Give them a sense of exploration and wonder. Better than always relying on useless adults to do everything for them and hold them back at life.

>>717568296
nobody wants to write emails. emails are gay and fake.

I get the point, but some of this shit for secureboot is crazy. You should be having to do re do the partitions on your computer and change the entire boot structure in order to play a game.
And it is a little hit of a slippery slope. I don't want to get banned because my mouse used it's direct memory access to change its colors and the anti cheat thinks its a hardware cheat. That's never gonna be good considering how much shit random bits of your set up now has bloatware attached.

>>717570272
no, that's how we keep ending up with generation after generation that doesn't know how to change the light bulb or use a computer or use a canopener. It's been happening for almost a century now. Teach your damn kids.

>>717565812
You prefer a world where everyone needs to:
>download blirpborp and zubzub
>twist the knarkle
>press the blorzob
>launch the zonkla
>edit the blobr files
and know their ways around cumzubr?

>>717570456
Absolutely, streamlining is cancer.

>>717570731
You couldn't get rich even if you wanted to.

>>717569858
No it isn't. The only thing easier is to get driver files in the first place because you can just download them from somewhere instead of having to buy some computer magazine.
But installing a program is the same as it was 30 years ago, just that you got a nice UI, building a rig is the same as it was 25 years ago (except that you don't have to fuck around with IDE cables anymore and that you now can put a storage device right onto the motherboard), INI tweaking has always been nerd shit that wasn't necessary for just playing the games, and IRQ conflicts have literally never been a problem for me in the almost 30 years I have been using computers so far.
And nothing of that is any kind of high iq achievement.

>>717565663
>>717565812
So zoomers are like boomers?

>>717570972
Yes it's a big problem, zoomers are good with phones but are dogshit with computers. If you want actual tech expertise right now you mostly look at milennials.

>>717570934
In fairness, IRQ conflicts were a symptom of the mid/late 80s. Early-90s it became pretty fucking uncommon, and after that non-issue.
So 30 years ago doesn't really cover the time period they mostly occured during.

>>717565214 (OP)
>Why do you think the average IQ of a PC gamer has fallen in the past decade?
I don't know but I've noticed fags on /v/ are not only illiterate but also lack critical thinking. It's fucking astounding how they fumble through life. It's not even just on /v/ but I see it on other websites too.

>>717565812
>>717565758
sure thing grandpa, now let's get u to bed

>>717570456
It would help.
Tech illiteracy is part of why it's so easy to convince people the government needs to do shit for kids instead of parents. If parents were competent, they wouldn't need gov - they could do that shit themselves and laugh at their kids' frustrated faces.

>>717568551
Smartest and truest post in this shittiest retard thread.

>"Convenience is BAD!"
>"but only convenience I didn't have specifically!"
>"I did things differently so MY way is better!"
>"I know something you don't and will just assume you have no skills so I'M smarter!"
>"I'M BETTER THAN YOUUUUU! MEEEE!".
Congrats guys, you turned into boomers.

>>717565214 (OP)
Serious question, what does "Secure Boot" really do, and how is it relevant to BF6 and cheating?

All I know is that I disabled "Fast Boot" when I built this PC but don't remember seeing "Secure Boot".

>>717565430
the internet should have stayed a military and research only space. making it accessible to the public was NOT worth it

>>717570428
Anon, these fucking retards cannot accept accountability and have the lowest IQ ever. They're currently doing the exact same thing their Gen X and boomer parents were doing to them in their childhood to other young people/kids and genuinely don't understand it.

>>717571694
>I'd say only 1 in 100 attempted to port forward to host a game and even less figured it out, and remember you never did it without a program someone else wrote.
I've played Brood War where you used to have to do this until the remaster and I wouldn't say it was 1/100, more like 1/8. It's just adding some values to the right place in your router settings, and you figure out how to get into your router by looking at it.

>Kids these days don't do [thing] like WE did it
Listen to yourselves, you've turned into your parents. Christ. How pathetic you lot are, a bunch of bitter old men. You've turned into your fathers.

Because PC is for normies now lmao. All the zoomers favourite streamers are PC gamers. It's full of retards, children and third worlders now, more than it ever has been in the past.

>>717571830
The percentage changes between games. More obscure/complex games will have more smarter people playing them that would be willing to tinker around with the game and "hack" it.

>>717565430
>Back in the day you had to know how to install drivers
>He was a winjeet his whole life

>>717571902
Yeah, that's probably fair.

>>717570972
Yes but there's a difference.
Boomers didn't want to learn and just wanted things done for them.
Zoomers weren't allowed to learn and things were largely forced upon them.

>>717568097
You're old.
t. 31

>>717571784
Secure boot is more or less like it sounds - a "secure" boot-up. The idea is that any sus shit trying to get its foot in the door that early, is gonna be checked to make sure it's properly signed and not something that shouldn't be there. For like 80-90% of users(probably 99% of windows users unless you're dual-booting), there's no issue having it on from the start.
As I understand it(smarty anons can shit on me if this is obectively wrong), the reason they want it is to add another place to block out cheating software. Some of that runs at the same level anti-cheats do, but the cheat software is highly unlikely to be signed and trusted, whereas the anti-cheat will be.

>>717565214 (OP)
He's right. If he doesn't understand what he's messing with, he shouldn't be doing that, it's common sense.
And more so, a game shouldn't force you to do this bullshit just to run.

>>717565214 (OP)
Maybe a game shouldn't force you to mess with bios settings for it to let you play it, how about that huh?

>>717571784
>what does "Secure Boot" really do
it prevents you from booting software that isn't signed by microsoft
you can enroll your own keys and that works fine for now with battlefield but some anticheat already blocks you if you do this (riot vanguard)

>>717565573
>PC's are for poor people, only us, the ELITE, plays on consoles
lmaooooooooooo

the answer is always "it's too accessible". I look forward to the near future when internet 1.5 requires you to solder to hardware you have to flash yourself.

>>717565214 (OP)
There is no longer any incentive nor requirement to learn anything about your PC. Everything you buy comes pre-installed with pretty much all basic programs you need, and if there is anything you want to install then Google can solve that.
Most normoids also don't bother changing any program from default so they never have any reason learn installing or even folder navigation.
We Millennialchads are the last generation to actually know how a computer works.

>>717566032
how is that a disaster you hipster faggot.

>>717565214 (OP)
Same reason why the average IQ of the people using the internet has decreased: easier access has made it possible for the average person (retards) to use it, dropping the average.

>>717571880
And so will you. Complaining about the younger generation has stood the test of time since time immemorial. To not do so is to be the ULTIMATE contrarian.

>>717575285
It's also quite natural by human nature.
People who do that "oh you're becoming your parents!" shit tend to think they're the only ones who're still "hip" and totally understand and get the generation below them.
Honestly few things sadder than an adult who thinks he's forever 17.

>>717570806
Not my fault you can't crinkle the scrimblo on IOS and need to workaround the zongahonga which is disabled every week meaning you zungle it or say fuck it no more scrinkled scrimblo.

>>717575369
this sounds fake and made up entirely based on what you want to be true. sounds like some out of touch, not getting it, old man talk.

>>717569593
I work with someone who can't string together two real English sentences without having to use AI. whenever I read their stuff I instantly know they went through AI for it because I know they don't know half of the big words they used

>>717575426
Hang onto that hope all you want anon but it will happen to you too. I used to still "get it" when it was just flossing and fortnite bullshittery but once all kids started turning into wiggers with fr fr skullemoji skibidi shitidiy aura whatever the fuck I realized I don't understand squat and simply checked out.

>>717575728
Sounds like you get it but reject it which is different than not getting it.

>>717568296
The amount of people who need to use chatgpt to not sound like retards when they type something out is shocking.

>>717575534
>they
kill yourself leftoid, you clearly know this dude's gender so why are you calling him they?

>>717570934
There is more access to the information to actually build a computer nowadays, that can't be discounted.. The internet was nowhere near as kind as it is now to the uninitiated. You would need a manual or someone that knew better to guide you without mucking up your parts.
And I can tell you now in regards to this thread that is very much a relevant bit of information, that it's marginally easier to get into building and setup. Because since it's that much easier there's no excuse except pricing to worry about anything and the most recent generation is fried to the point they don't know how to navigate folders on a computer let alone do any of that. They only know how to dick around with apps.
The only skill needed to build a pc (and hell, a lot of things these days) is just following directions, and directions have never been easier to obtain. It's telling that even that is too much for the newer generation and even the lazy old farts complaining about tech advancement whilst growing and living in the age the most rapid tech advancement occurred in the first place. It's a damn silly joke.

>>717565214 (OP)
tap water

>>717565214 (OP)
>Why do you think the average IQ of a PC gamer has fallen in the past decade?
why would you assume someone who has never used BIOs before to know how to use it?
It's like giving a gamboy to an ipad kid and calling them retarded for trying to tap the screen
They've never seen it before, give them some slack
instead, educate people instead of trying to ridicule them

COVID quite literally gave some percentage of the population who caught it actual brain damage

>>717567028
Yeah OP is retarded.
The guy is high IQ enough to understand what he doesn't understand and is actually seeking guidance.

>>717565214 (OP)
symptoms of being a faggot zoomie not a pc gamer

>>717576397
28?

>>717565214 (OP)
The intelligence of people in general has fallen because of harmful immigration and AI.

>>717576641
Boomers are pretty ultra senile, you know.

>>717565723
if their desktop/phone is covered in icons they think they have no more room for apps, phone or pc
like that shortcut icon is the entire program

>>717576397
63

>>717576397
If each man has 7 wives, then there are 56 parents, and if each of them has 7 kids, there are 56+392 people, so 448?

>>717576397
It's a trick question because the lack of information leaves multiple interpretations.

>>717565214 (OP)
He's right. I went into my BIOS back in 2018 or something to change a setting needing to run Valorant and my PC was bricked when I tried to launch it. Nothing ever worked. And I know my bios settings, everything was just fucked from turning on a setting needed to RUN FUCKING VALORANT I HATE VALORANT NOW. Anyway, CMOS battery and every other possible change didn't work, had to put my €2000 homemade PC into the trash but when I think about it was probably just a dead motherboard or something.

Fuck valorant, fuck riot, will never give them a € again

>>717576397
63 since he made a distinction to say "Seven men have seven wives" instead of "Seven men each have seven wives"

That's 7 men + 7 wives + 49 children = a populace of 63.

7 children multiplied by 7 couples because he stated that each spouse has 7 children but didn't specify that all or some of those children were exclusive to a singular spouse and not shared by their other spouse, and even if they were, he should've noted that out and it's his fault for failing to provide consequential data. and in any case, fuck step-parenthood I'm interpreting this in my preferred way and i'm making them out to be seven happy nuclear families reproducing way above the average displacement rates.

>>717576397
343
Every man has seven wives, 7 sets make this 49, then multiply by 7 for the kids.
But wait, it gets better. If every man can have a kid in the mpreg universe it could even be 686 children, since everyone is giving birth.

>>717576660
>>717576789
>>717576810
>>717577118
>>717577130
retards
>>717576883
welcome to harvard, retard

>>717577264
>didn't answer the question
retard

>>717570972
gen alpha are
zoomers (especially those on the older end) are as good if not better with computers than millennials
we're talking about people who were 10 in 2007, of course they know how to use a PC
the fact of the matter is that the average person - regardless of age - is just fucking retarded and that applies to computers as well

>>717576058
I don't want them to read my screen and find out it's them. it's a femoid

>>717568097
lol our computer lab teacher was some super industry expert apparently (she wasnt), and took the same exam we were taking to prove how good she was. She ended up getting around 70% while us nerds got high 90%s. It was an online component test, so she couldn't pretend her way out of it.

>>717577264
>B-bb--bb-but you need to bbb-bb-b-be mathimatically tenable to get into our jewniversity!

>>717576397
the question is unclear for multiple reasons, the main one being whether they mean 'each couple has 7 children' or 'each man (singular) and each wife (singular) have 7 children' which would double the number
it is also unclear whether they mean 7 men each have 7 wives or there are 7 husbands and 7 wives

>>717576058
Snowflake

>>717577514
you apparently can't do math or spell and that isn't a math question, it's just critical thinking

>>717568608
You're a self-hating zoomer, lol.

>>717565214 (OP)
That's not a demonstration of low IQ, just a lack of knowledge. But it's because everyone is moving to PC. Even the nips are moving to PC and they have historically been totally clueless about it.

>>717575192
For one, the insufferable amount of fucking retards that don't even learn the basics of a game before jumping straight into online to annoy others with their stupid questions, such as yours.

>>717569631
NTA, but
>Shut up retard, none of that was ever any more complicated than today, except for setting up network shit.
tell me how you never installed games in the 90s/2000s without telling me you never installed games in the 90s/2000s
>Also, what has changed about knowing how to install drivers compared to "back in the day"?
>You get the driver from somewhere, you install it, wow big deal.
except you don't, either windows does it for you whenever a new driver is available, or your GPU app center downloads it for you and simply asks you to confirm the install and reboot
back then you had to actually go and source the drivers yourself, remember do it whenever a new major release was out, for which you had to keep up with the releases, get them, optionally uninstall the previous ones cause new ones weren't always additive, etc etc

>>717576770
is op's picrel a zoomie or a boomer? lol

>>717577770
That was very much a thing well before Steam.
It was in fact far worse before Steam didn't exist because there were no central sites that coalesced information from skilled players, and far fewer likelihood of complete frauds making shit up.

>>717578191
>no true scottsman
Nice try retard. Seethe

>>717571880
>Listen to yourselves, you've turned into your parents.
my parents come to me to solve their technological issues because they don't know how to solve them
i don't ask zoomies to solve my technological issues because they don't know how to solve them
we haven't turend into our parents, zoomies have, at least when it comes to technological know-how

>>717578657
which part of what i said is "a true scottsman"?

>>717578753
>aayyye laddy... no sugar in porridge ayye...

>>717565214 (OP)
This is a boomer cope thinking going to bios is anything special(it isn't) and that people used to do it all the time( they weren't).

Everyone in this thread taking to each other ignores the fact that they are a stupid Nvidia Windows driver issues owner

>>717565214 (OP)
IT literacy is plummeting in the past few years. I know teachers whose students struggle to even create fucking folders. Meanwhile if my generation didn't know MSDOS commands by heart we couldn't fucking do anything on the PC let alone play a videogame.
I blame this on modern OSs making themselves retard-proof and discouraging exploration and experimentation because retards would just end up bricking their device. Especially phones.

>>717578882
Works on my machine. Maybe ask from reddit if you need help.

>>717565214 (OP)
Lack of knowledge is not lack of IQ, you low-IQ retard

>>717578916
The latest drivers look like this on Windows and it's forced by every AAA game

>>717578916
Nigga 5070ti has high returns rate on Amazon tag precisely because of driver issues.............

Same with 5080 at Microcenter

You own a 3090 100c hotspot pumped paste card or something?

>>717568296
I always get a chuckle when my dyslectic coworker writes damage control e-mails to management and there are no spelling errors.

>>717568296
based zoomer. chatgpt is as soulless as the boomertards who tone police and obsess over form, their pointless rules and tradition.

>>717565214 (OP)
Same reason why the average IQ in countries has fallen - the more retards you let in the more retarded it gets

>>717578987
f-framegen will s-s-save it

to be fair, I always shit bricks when flashing bios. I've never done it with a mobo that has a backup chip.

>>717578987
Just updated nvidia drivers for bf6 yesterday and I have no problems. Seems like a (you) issue.
Like I said, reddit might have help for someone of your limited... capabilities.

>>717565214 (OP)
iPhone allowed easy access to the internet.

>>717565214 (OP)
>Google "Which file has the saves in Game"
>Scroll past ai answer
>Link three, open up article
>Skim filibuster
>No useful info
>Open wiki and fextralife
>Placeholder text
>Five links down, reddit thread
>It's the monthly questions thread
>No useful info

>Just wasted half an hour and got nothing useful and now I have a headache and my eyes hurt and I feel miserable and stupid and hungry
>Don't even want to play the game anymore

I'll stick with the "app" format, thanks.

>>717565214 (OP)
Good. More tech jobs for me.

>>717565214 (OP)
it's pretty fucking rare anyone had to mess up with the bios to begin with, besides dumb shit like boot order
moreover it's technically possible to do some real damage if you start messing with voltages

>>717565723
They think it's a bucket, and you either put things in the bucket or take things out of the bucket. Thank Smart Phones that don't let you do anything else except manipulate one, maybe two folders if you enable developer mode.

>>717576782
>>717565812
Just Macfag things.

>>717570456
>Do you prefer a world where you can fix things with a little bit of knowledge?
Yes you fucking moron.

>>717570806
You're not rich now, you're a broke ass retard who can't make a folder outside of his own desktop or even know what those words mean. If you even made more than a pot to piss in, it would be stolen by jeet scammers telling you to fix imaginary viruses with google play cards.

Steam forums are amazing man.

At one side I can google some obscure problem to a vidyagame and find its hotfix on a forum post in Steam but then there's also some retard who doesn't even know how to access his game's folder location.

>>717571880
Computer literacy was on a rise until the invention of the smart phone, then it dropped right off a cliff and kids know even less about tech than I do.

>>717578987
How the hell do you fuck up updating your drivers?

>>717574537
Correct

>>717583739
now lets see switch userbase

>>717578791
Not him but it's okay to be wrong. You don't have to sperg out like an obnoxious retard every time someone disagrees with you. That's not a personality anyone wants to interact with. Please act your age, thanks.

>>717583034
>>717580571
>type %appdata% into file explorer
>scan for game/company name
>not here, though it really should be these days, it's an older game so it might be in Documents
>oh, not here either, they probably keep it directly in the game folder then
>seriously, it's in one of these 3 places every time

>>717580571
You didn't think to check the PC gaming wiki?

>>717567485
They don't do computer classes anymore because everyone knows how to use da 'puter

I don't know about IQ but I think PC gaming used to be its own subculture (Starcraft, Thief, Fallout, Heroes of Might and Magic, X-COM, just to name a few). Nowadays, all slop is dumped on every console and on PC to make as much money as possible so PC gaming basically has no identity or that feeling of a niche community. Any troglodyte that would've been shoving Call of Duty into their XBOX 15 years ago is now pushing Play on the newest Ubisoft garbage instead.

>>717576397
8 billions?

Tech literacy is on a downtrend, and that works just fine for Microsoft. They would prefer the majority of their customers meddle as little as possible with their instances of Windows. That way when M$ later removes features from future iterations of Windows, their customers won't get upset about it. They'll never have known those features existed in the first place.

People will blame lots of things, rather than just blaming the idiot themselves. We live in the golden age of knowledge and people just shrink away in disgust. Nobody has any real desires to improve or learn something. I've no interest in learning Linux. Therefore I don't use it. Simple as. Don't want to learn how to use BIOS? Then you aren't going to figure out how to change its settings.

You can be a total retard, but still have a mastery over the ability to learn. You can be born a genius but have no interest in improving or learning and end up being dumber than the later.

>>717565214 (OP)
More women and Indians.

>>717571980
As compared to what, nigger zoomer? To mac with no games? Or troonix where you literally had to compile your own system kernel?

>>717565663
Do schools not have computer class anymore? Learning how to use a computer + the basics of MS Office 2003 was required when I was in elementary school. I guess they stupidly assume every zoomer can work a computer because they grew up with iPads

>>717565214 (OP)
Fucking around in the bios is sp much fun.
I loved undervolting my current CPU and overclocking my old one.

>>717568097
I'm 28 and my schooling really only extended to using the computer as a tool for research and projects.
>what is cmd line
>what is file compression
>how computer parts fit together
And other shit all came from the necessities of being a PC gamer since the mid-2010s. And I've been torrenting since I was 12.

>>717565214 (OP)
Because you dumbfucks kept trying to convert people into PC gamers by telling them to leave consoles for more FPS and better graphics. Guess what, the retarded consolebabbies listened and became PC gamers.

>>717568629
>Maybe
ngmi

my computer literally has smoke rising from the top of the case lmao. it takes a lot to break a pc

>>717565214 (OP)
Browns, everything internet and tech related going downhill is because of browns, you know this

>>717570972
Not all zoomers, but definitely all gen alpha.
There's this period from younger Gen X to the oldest Zoomers, where people were young enough to learn while computers were actually useful but also required knowledge to use.
Boomers and older Gen X were already old and calcified in their ways when computers stopped being something only nerds used.
Gen Alpha and younger Zoomers never knew a world where computers required skill. It was all phoneshit for them which hid all the technical details. They use tech more frequently than anyone else, but never had reason to learn what a filesystem was.
So basically, we're fucked in 30-35 years when the population with mass, broad-based computer skill is dead or retired. The oldest Zoomers are like 28 now.

>>717565214 (OP)
south americans, indians, and tech becoming easier to use

>>717568296
I'm the youngest at my workplace (I'm 32, all my coworkers are 40+, some 50+), and some of them are absolutely addicted to ChatGPT, I feel like they're getting dumber as time goes on.
Two women specifically, you can tell that most of the stuff they write is going through ChatGPT lately, they even say in the company chat "I asked ChatGPT" all the time, it's insane.

I´m convinced it dropped but not because of PC gaming or any other external factors.
The only reason it has dropped, is because of the influx of browns being let into the net.
Especially poojeets and muslims play a big part in the process.

>>717587328
Whats wild is they'll say obviously wrong shit like Secure Boot is a vulnerability or something outrageously debunkable but no one shames them.
Or pic related. How in the everloving fuck do you know so little about computers you think mods from nexus would ever be affected by secure boot.
Ignorance was once shamed on the internet. Newcomers to the hobby once had pride in learning and tinkering with shit. Fucking insane how far things have fallen. Devuno ain't never getting hacked at this rate. All the passion for pc/tech is dead in the youth.

>>717566032
>noooo if you don't kick yourself in the nuts every day you're not doing it properly
kill yourself you fucking sperg

>>717567231

I bricked my PC once due to the CMOS battery fucking up and sending the PC into the bootloop.
I'm no computer genius, but it was a weird enough error that it took me a week or so to figure out that was the problem.

I'd rather the zoomer learn by asking for help than having to learn how I did, by sending my BIOS into a boot loop and having to ask around only after the fact

>>717567906
>It does worry me that something as powerful as being able to Google a question and get, at least a mildly helpful response

Have you tried getting a serious answer from Google recently?
It's all either AI hallucinations or SEO bullshit
Zoomers don't really know other search engines either

>>717588728
I use Chat-GPT as a search engine now instead and it works much better. It's the same shit, just more finetuned. Just push back on it if it says something is bullshit and it'll go into it.

it's bleak, because I know enough about computer to know I'm a complete tech illiterate retard and yet somehow the average person is worse than me.

>>717588851
I use search engines to get an answer, not to have an argument with my computer. No, I will not use NiggerGPT

>>717589242
You use search engines to find things other people say which you've always had to apply a good degree of scrutiny towards and Chat-GPT streamlines that.

>>717589401
You yourself said "you have to push back if it says bullshit".
In what world is that streamlining?
Are you indian?

>>717588546
Trial and error. Also asking for specific steps is fine. However showing clear ignorance on a topic and doing zero research is unacceptable.
Learning and teaching are two different things. For example if you don't know what a cmos battery is and you are a "pc gamer" there's something wrong with your knowledge base and you should read up on computers 101 or buy a console if you can't be bothered

>>717565214 (OP)
People are too stupid to look up info/guides themselves. I learned enough PC knowledge just from self teaching to get hired as an IT with no experience. And I did better than many of my college student coworkers. Pathetic.

Regardless of their IQ, imagine defending this shit.

>>717589912
What's insane is those exact people would consider themselves PC gamers. It's like saying you're into cars but don't know the difference between diesel and petrol. You'd be laughed out of any car group. But for some reason we coddle retards in the pc space now. Maybe it's millennials trying to get brownie grooming points by helping or retards who want to encourage the ignorant responses to make the situation seem more dire. Whatever it is being a certain age with computer skills sucks dick cause you helped the boomers now you gotta help the zoomers.

>>717590202
>Whatever it is being a certain age with computer skills sucks dick cause you helped the boomers now you gotta help the zoomers.
Fuck thats so true

>>717589990
Secure boot was the naturally next step for anti cheats. Riot clearly has their shit figured out and their kernel level anti cheat Vanguard requires secure boot.
I have pirated games, software, all kinds of shit installed on my windows 11 pc. And guess what I have secure boot enabled. Say what you want about certain issues getting it enabled (disk converting etc.)but there's literally no reason to advocate for it being off unless you have a specific use case.
So yeah I'll defend secure boot being enabled because there's proof it works to help prevent hackers. No skin off my back if some retards won't /can't enable it. I don't get upset that the nigger in front of me refuses to show ID to the Indian clerk at 7-11 for beer.

>>717587836
>he still thinks its not a vulnerability
enjoy your aids

>>717591105
>locks be picked so just leave everything unlocked
Stupid nigger

>>717590642
Counterpoint, why would I want SECURE Boot over FAST Boot? I want to boot faster.

>>717565969
If you mean really old millennials sure because the younger batch can barely be considered tech literate

>>717590642
>actually saying there arent cheaters in ritos games
considering there were already cheaters running rampant on hour 1 of bf6. I'm just gonna listen to myself instead of some retarded shill.

>>717567231
How do you know he bought the PC himself? How do you know his dad didn't bought his PC for him?

>use the exact same terminology for multiple different sections of computing processes
>customer confused

HUHUH STUPID ASS CUSTOMER BITCH. WHY THE FUCK YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT YALL AINT CHEATING

>>717565214 (OP)

i think tech literacy has gone down massively for the smartphone/tablet generation. unlike the radio, the car, the TV, the desktop PC etc, the smartphone as the defining consumer electronic/mass media device of that generation has been designed to be unfixable by the end user. you can't even get the case off without specialized tools. sadly this design philosophy has bled into other products. cars and TVs are becoming impossible to fix now. this is why its important to support right to repair initiatives

that being said we were all stupid and ignorant at one point and probably had to ask on forums/google/figure out through trial and error simple problems like this. help the guy out if you can, educate him if you actually care

>>717565214 (OP)
>average zoomoid thinks its okay to give full access of their computer to fucking EA of all people
yeah IQs have plummeted

>>717565214 (OP)
everyone uses PCs even people who dont know the deep details because they dont need to know them for their jobs.
Expecting people to change bios settings for a fucking videogame is insanity.

>>717567514
Pot calling the kettle black

>>717591217
>fucking up my pc on purpose
>doesnt stop anything in the end
great idea you retard

>>717565214 (OP)
>Why do you think the average IQ of a PC gamer has fallen in the past decade?
Same reason the average IQ of internet users plummeted with smartphones gaining access.

To me people pretending like this is some big deal is people caring far too little far too late.

You faggots lost your chance to care about crap like this the second you all decided to suck gabe's dick for normalizing online drm.

>>717591275
>uhhhh let's not try and stop niggers from stealing and do nothing to try and enhance our security
Just admit you use hacks bro. No need to sound like some dumbass retard that acts like these prevention methods can't be modified. Hackers got in cool, it's a beta and they'll work on stopping them.
I'd rather play a game with valorant's anti cheat methods than fucking Valve's

>>717590642
>no bro you see [soulless chink game] requires it as well so its okay!!

>>717565663
It's weird being considered tech-savvy because you can google answers to problems.

>>717591494
A depressing amount of people will just deal with a problem rather than learn how to fix it.

>>717591470
>projecting your cheating ass onto me
nice try nigger. only a retarded cheater would say that ritos anti cheat works.

>>717591376
This

People bitching about this guy are 100% in the wrong, they should bitch at EA.

>>717586608
Is that why the average Indian kid is mogging you Muttoids in college? You people became embarrassingly stupid.

>>717591426
They also lost it when zoomers and browns started PAYING for hacks creating a god awful Capatlism based system for cheaters. The cheats got more elaborate and intrusive so the game devs had to step up the anti cheat to combat them. And lo and behold most of the good cheats requires secure boot to be disabled to run undetectable.

>>717591539
You do that. Everyone does that. There's things people care to know and things people just don't care to know. There's nothing wrong with that. We can't all be experts in everything.

>>717591621
I would hope the cream of the crop of the richest of India's society would be doing well, it'd be embarrassing otherwise.

>>717576810
>>717577130
You can't have more than one wife.

>>717568296
based. "work emails" do not need any emotion whatsoever. Let a bot word the appropriate info and send that shit.

>>717565214 (OP)
It just reminds me of comments on torrents or posts on piracy/emulation forums of people that literally can't read because they're ESL, genuinely fucking stupid, or both.
You could give the simplest instructions in the world and these retards will still manage to fuck it up.
I had a zoomer ask for my help to install a mod because he didn't know what to do, it was a simple extract to directory mod but he never even read the page it was on, then while teaching him how extract a zip file he ended up saying NO when asked to replace files because he was worried it would fuck something up.
Then I had to help him install an emulator which required teaching him how to extract a zip folder AGAIN and then I had to hold his hand to fucking read the UI of the emulator because he couldn't figure out how to add a game or configure his controller, it was duckstation.

>>717570934
>>717569631
Thank you! Sick of these whiny idiots ( >>717565430
) thinking that they're superior to others because they either googled forums or installed drivers that came with the product they bought. They claim that they are super smart when they benefited from every tool and hardware created with accessibility in mind.

Teach people the same way they taught you and you'll have less idiots.
>>717585935
Takes a lot of effort to learn. Easy to do if you're pampered kid in a gated neighborhood, less so if you're a third world person.

>>717568608
>"Install Gentoo" tier trolling guiz!
Wew

>>717565214 (OP)
pc players dont play bf slop

>>717565214 (OP)
PC is the platform for third worlders so it just naturally comes with the territory

>>717591748
The bot is unnecessarily verbose to the point that people will likewise use AI to summarize the fucking email essay they just received, adding yet another point of failure for communication.
Hope you aren't sending any critical details in these emails.

Did everyone just forget how to use google?

>>717575534
I am certain one of the punjabi jannies that constantly thread shits a general I used to enjoy does this because every once in a while when the thread is too fast for him to casually saturate with garbage the posts devolve into full ESL gibbering. The 6 months he spent accusing any effort post of being ChatGPT were also a hint in hindsight.

It's been quite a fucking while since I remember any technology actually being beneficial to human life.

>>717592230
have you used google today? It generates useless ai garbage constantly along with irrelevant links, it hides wikipedia for crying out loud

>>717592189
>The bot is unnecessarily verbose
I hate this shit so much. So many times I click a video on youtube these days thinking "This might be interesting" only to hear some obviously AI generated script that just waffles on and on and on with meaningless nonsense.

>>717592038
TRVKE

>>717592189
you should not ever be sending critical information over email
>but imagine this extra step that didnt happen whicu would actually makes it a problem
no

>>717592230
Yes but now you have the problem with AI results that are wrong more often than they should be.

>>717591621
The average Indian kid shits in the street.

>>717568551
Yes, but using someone else solution and following their directions still makes you more intelligent than someone too dumb to even do that

>>717569631
>>717570934
you massively overestimate the average retard today
they dont even open ingame settings they just go with whatever the game defaults to

>>717592389
>>717592482
Can't you just put -ai in the search?

>>717592445
The first step of having an ai write your email is already a problem. Having it write it twice is obviously worse, but yes expecting emails to be useful or important at all is dumb. Enjoy your daily meeting.

>>717592742
>they dont even open ingame settings they just go with whatever the game defaults to
To be fair, it's not you have any idea what setting "Lighting" to "Low", "Medium", "High" or "Ultra" actually means. But the devs do and they tend to work out presets for your hardware for you.

>>717592875
They don't even change controls at all.

>>717592810
I'm surprised you can actually do that but that does require people to put it in every time unless they have a script and we know most people aren't willing to do either of those

>>717592810

no its still complete rubbish. to get anything useful from google you have to add reddit to the search or just go directly to a site that contains good info and search there

>>717592930
Do you have a learning disability? Unless it's some real abhorrent trash like fkeys or numpad it doesn't matter and you'll get used to it in a few minutes of playing anyway.

>>717576397
7x7x7 because each kid can fullfill being both of their kid

>>717565581
Going into the BIOS is genuinely scary. I have done it dozens of times and only broke shit like twice (managed to revert the damage at both times) but it's still a very intimidating experience.

>>717593135
Some games have downright retarded default layouts and there's no point in adjusting when I can play it how I do every other game.

>>717566032
Yeah I remember how incredibly hard it was to install roller coaster tycoon back in the day. I had to put the disk in the drive and then click on the install wizard, twice!

>>717593135
i will not be crouching with control no matter what the devs think

>>717565214 (OP)
I have owned my PC for 7 years and not once updated or used the BIOS.

>>717571880
/thread
And the worst part is that they don't even realize what is happening. We're slowly slipping into a dark age. All of these brownoid subhumans replacing whites can't and won't ever learn how to operate and maintain the systems in place. We're going to make the aftermath of the collapse of the soviet union look like a joke.

>>717593271
>no I HAVE to press shift to sprint and ctrl to crouch you can't just swap the two
>q should only do what it did in this other game anything else is wrong
>what do you mean I have to press f instead of e? these controls are trash
Retard.

>>717593714
Consolefag mentality.

>>717571880
At least i know what a zip file is unlike kids these days.

>>717593516
Hope you have XMP enabled

>>717565449
>webm
Impressive.

>>717568097
When we did computer class (late 90s) there was some stuff like typing speed and setting up folders and shit but yeah most of it was just 'how to use the internet for research'

>>717593850
When we had computer class in the 90s we had to make a website, not search for one. We also were taught how to program in pascal. It was just taken for granted people knew how to actually use a computer. And before that, when we were in primary school in the 80s, we were taught how to "program" logo.

turning on secure boot is nothing
try updating your bios during a thunderstorm with no ups

>>717578191
>tell me how you never installed games in the 90s/2000s without telling me you never installed games in the 90s/2000s
Ok you retarded double nigger, tell me how installing Diablo, C&C, Nox, Age of Empires, Lego Rock Raiders or Sudden Strike were in any way more complicated than installing a game today.
And if you say "You had to insert a disc" I will find you and kill you, you fucking retard.

>back then you had to actually go and source the drivers yourself, remember do it whenever a new major release was out, for which you had to keep up with the releases, get them, optionally uninstall the previous ones cause new ones weren't always additive, etc etc
So what you are saying is "getting the driver from somewhere and installing it"?

But as I mentioned, if you think any of that was some kind of high IQ achievement you're a fucking low iq gorilla nigger.

>>717584036
>PCGW
That's arcane templar knowledge as far as the average /v/tard is concerned.

>>717592230
Problem is that Google is basically useless today because of enshittification and SEO.
You're literally better off asking an AI and have it provide sources instead of trying to find shit through Google.

>>717571980
lol, cope and seethe

>>717565663
>>717565723
It's no joke. MOST of my coworkers (MEDICAL NURSING STAFF) have NO IDEA what a "file" or a "folder" on their computer is, let alone how to navigate "This PC."

If their monitor goes black for any reason, including "oops, unplugged!," they have NO IDEA what to do. Unless their new software application (that IT has to come up and install on every single computer at the nurses' stations, otherwise it never gets done) looks exactly like their Internet Explorer, they cannot and will not ever complete any computer task.

Today's computer users have no idea what their OS is. It's just "some device" and if something doesn't work, they buy a new one.

>>717594239
Do they sell batteries for pcs?
Like laptop batteries, but... bigger I guess?
Laptops always have a grave period thanks to those.

>>717595289
this nib is a nurse

I guarantee most nuPC gamers ITT don't know how to use a server browser

>>717595476
Yes. It's called an uninterruptible power supply or UPS.

Everyone was buying them for their computers a while back but eventually they figured out it's a big waste of money.

>>717595646
what's there to know, you just pick a server and click on it

>>717595476
That's basically what a UPS is, but they are not commonly used and are a waste of money if your grid is fine and you are not too worried about the rare downtime.
I guess if you live somewhere where blackouts are common for some reason it'd be useful, but you'd still need a generator anyway because the battery won't power your PC for long.

>>717571396
Grandpas are the ones keeping the lights on, the internet going and cars moving. Once they are gone you incompetent zoomies are going back to the middle ages, but even dumber.

>>717569631
Are you thinking back in the day was 2015 or something? You would have separate drivers for category of video cards. Choose the wrong one and you're booting windows in safe mode with networking. Then there was just the general fuckery of dealing with 95 or 98.
Not going to pretend building a computer is unbelievably difficult, but there wasn't youtube guides and if you didn't do it right the cpus would actually light on fire instead of scaling back and shutting down. (mainly an AMD thing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

>>717589876
>For example if you don't know what a cmos battery is and you are a "pc gamer" there's something wrong with your knowledge base and you should read up on computers 101 or buy a console if you can't be bothered

The way the bootloop was happening in this case made me think it was a PSU or SSD issue.
In this case the actual issue was that the CMOS on this particular motherboard (fuck you Asus) kept setting the System time back to 2012 or something, which would send it into a boot loop.
This is an obscure enough hardware failure. I knew what a CMOS is, but it's such an edge case I didn't even think about it at first.

>>717596312
>general fuckery of dealing with 95 or 98
I don't remember them being any more fucky than 10. From my normal game player perspective, I'm not a programmer.

>>717596312
2015 was 10 years ago. Yes, that is back in the day.
>well I remember when life first formed on earth
Nobody cares.

>>717565214 (OP)
Companies started appealing to the lowest common denominator, namely brownoids
So now everything has to be playable by them and as a result every game is a piece of shit with no complexity because these subhumans that live in garbage heaps and eat shit cannot understand it and somehow thats a problem

>>717595745
UH NO IN MY TIME IT WAS HARDER YOU HAD TO NAVIGATE THE MAIN MENU AND KLICK ON MULTIPLAYER AND CHOOSE SERVER BROWSER AND SET LAN OR INTERNET AND CHECK FILTERS AND HIT REFRESH IT WAS TOTALLY COMPLICATED!!!1

>>717565214 (OP)
The third world gained common internet access.

>>717568296
See, THAT is actually smart and a good use case for ChatGPT. I'm in IT and there's nothing more I fucking hate than speaking to retards - which is almost everyone else at the company. So, I just give ChatGPT a few short sentences and have it write me an e-mail worthy of Dale Carnegie himself. I told people I attended a seminar when they started asking why my e-mail game got stepped up.

>>717596312
>You would have separate drivers for category of video cards
So, "getting the driver from somewhere"? In addition to not being a room temperature IQ retard, obviously.
Seriously, all those counterexamples are just examples of how things were a bit more involved, but not warrating being more intelligent.
Check out this cool food analogy: I don't need to be smarter to cut and smash garlic than I need to be to use a press.

>>717580571
Just ask an LLM so that you know what to search for.

>>717568296
That's based work emails are the most goycattle thing that ever existed

>>717565214 (OP)
normalfaggots and fomo ruin literally every hobby

>>717577096
You mean run Valorant with autoaim, you fucking loser. It runs fine out of the box, no BIOS necessary; but you do need to fuck around with BIOS to get around their anti-cheat, you homo.

>>717565214 (OP)
Even dudebros are PC gamers now.

>>717595289
So I actually worked IT in medical, though in a med school rather than a hospital. Also, now that I run my own business, I occasionally do consulting for a medical office. Anyway. Point is, these people SHOULDN'T know that. They need to know about what a high hCRP means, and how to differentiate between venous stasis and venous insuffiency, and so on.

Could they learn this? Probably, IT ain't rocket science. But a) I'd be out of a job, and b) they'd be worse medical personnel. Better than IT does IT things and medical does medical things.

>>717567282
Common sense would be researching the thing you don't understand instead of cowering in fear. Common sense would be not keeping anything important on your gaming pc (or setting backups if you're a fag) so you don't have to worry about nuking to os from beinga retard.

>>717565663
now add AI to the mix, I'm convinced that Gray goo and shit like that is now a possibility

>>717576397
>people
The answer is 7.

>>717597506
I like AI, but it is going to lead to people having absolutely zero common sense when common sense is already becoming rare. Already so many people just go to AI for getting the answer to a question and don't even question the answer the AI is even giving because they think that there is no way the AI can be wrong.

>>717599454
It's a really powerful tool, but it's as good as the user. It's not very confident about getting past being viewed as Google+.

>>717597506
>Gray goo and shit like that is now a possibility
We are nowhere near a grey goo scenario happening with LLMs. You people always overestimate these things we enthusiastically call AI.

>>717597410
>>717595289

i work in IT and i usually think about my coworkers in other departments, and their complete lack of IT savvy, in the following way: a blacksmith wouldn't expect a farmer to know how to make a scythe.

building the systems and making the computers work is my job, and working with those systems and computers is their job. i'm not an accountant, theyre not an "IT guy"

>>717576058
It's a pretty normal way of referring to someone the other party doesn't know. Has nothing to do with the gender identity insanity

>>717571880
Computer literacy is a good thing to have. A lot of zoomers don't even know you can rip music off a physical CD and keep it forever instead of streaming services like spotify. Ownership is good.

The whole point of the previous generation is to pass on their best skills to the new one. You'll have your own challenges too. Unfortunately people aren't doing that anymore. How many people do you know that can cook?

>>717576782
>>717565723
can confirm
my zoomer step brother once asked me to help him free up some space on his PC
turned out he thought dragging a game shortcut to the trash bin was how you uninstall a game and couldnt figure out why he was still out of space

>>717571880
>Kids these days don't do [thing] like WE did it
It's more like "Kids these days can't do anything!" Using search engines effectively is about the only skill I've heard anyone say zoomers have, and that's really not that much. Eventually the maintenance of a technologically advanced society is going to fall directly on your shoulders, and comparatively few of you have the skills to manage it. Whenever that's brought up, I always hear the same refrain "AI will do it."

Of what use, then, will any of you be?
>Already we have turned all of our critical industries, all of our material resources, over to these... things... these lumps of silver and paste we call nanorobots. And now we propose to teach them intelligence? What, pray tell, will we do when these little homunculi awaken one day and announce that they have no further need of us?

>>717601918
>i'm not an accountant, theyre not an "IT guy"
True, but you are still able to manage your bank account by yourself, right?
There's a difference between doing specific IT guy stuff and not clicking on the most obvious phishing links.
I also don't need to be a car mechanic to know how to check my oil or tire pressure.
It's just part of a kind of baseline competency in basic stuff I should be able to expect of anyone I also allow to vote.

>>717565214 (OP)
Yes, because I'm using one. I'm retarded. I know more than what people say the average young person knows, being as I wasn't a mobile phone user, but my knowledge is still quite limited. It's not entirely the fault of zoomers that they don't know shit about computers. Lots of things are automated and fagified, they are made not to require much knowledge on your behalf, let alone even lead you into figuring things out. We are going to enter an age where nobody knows anything and therefor it will be offshored to those that do, or rather, that which does, and that's going to include AI. That is one of the many things that is going to enslave us in the future. Even those that care about technology and are relatively knowledgeable don't value things like technological freedom enough and then the problem for them becomes that they will concede and allow things to get worse when they hold the torch for the future and that will be the end of it.

>>717596526
underage post.

>>717603880
>It's not entirely the fault of zoomers that they don't know shit about computers.
This. They were unfortunate enough to grow up in a period where much of this technology underwent substantial refinement and where there was an explicit agenda of obfuscating users from the inner workings on both a software and hardware level. Apple is the biggest culprit of this, and is directly the cause of why many of their generation does not understand what file structures are. Public education is also largely disinterested in teaching them the finer points of the technology that is being integrated into nearly every aspect of society at a rapid pace. We should have stepped in to stop this, we still haven't, we're in for some wild fucking shit if AI technology never crystallises, perhaps even if it does. I hope you fags are ready to become techpriests, because it might legitimately come down to that.

>>717603880
Also, doesn't help that people would rather stop at the acknowledgement that younger users of technology are rather inept, then deride them, rather than even bothering, even when they have the opportunity, to even try to help. The landscape now is not the same as it used to be. Things don't just preserve themselves. Pointing it out and being baffled by the illiteracy is one thing, but doing so and then effectively declaring them and "enemy" in some regard, which is to choose yourself, to solidify their ineptitude and retardation to the extent you can help it, won't do anything.

I say this only because it does seem a common habbit of people to complain about a decline in younger generations and in society in general but then do absolutely nothing whatsoever to help it when they have the ability.

It's not unlike the boomer mentality of leaving their children with nothing and telling them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps.

Do you choose the death of the future, or do you not?

>>717604452
>I say this only because it does seem a common habbit of people to complain about a decline in younger generations and in society in general but then do absolutely nothing whatsoever to help it when they have the ability.
It's a very boomer mentality to have, and it needs to be shut down.

>>717604441
Exactly 100%. I'd put forth the time is NOW to be "tech preists", in fact. In this age especially, as we watch this ID shit being rolled out. Say hello to the apocolypse if nothing is done about that.

>>717604612
We should start by skinning tech moguls, tanning their flesh into parchment, then tattooing the machinist's handbook translated into latin and reformatted into prayer. Incense and application of sacred unguents non-optional.

>>717595552
>>717597410
>>717601918
Guys, you have to know, as IT personnel, that when their computers don't "load" things and they can't "find ONECHART"... they have NO CLUE how to access medications, physician orders, vitals history, all of that.

Kids, being a nurse in a hospital is not being a paramedic in a van/EmergencyRoom. It's monitoring a patient in a bed. When computers don't work, having to physically look at their 4-8 different patients is a "pain" and will not result well. It's like if you become an obese loser because not recognizing that drinking soda and alcohol and getting a McDonald's meal isn't healthy but how could anyone tell you what you SHOULD eat? Oh, you can? MICROAGGRESSION RACIST VIOLENCE!!

I'm not saying RNs need to be able to hack computers.
I'm telling you when they can't log in to one of 50 computers on their unit, they cannot perform their tasks.
AND they get punished for choosing to perform tasks when the computer doesn't record it.

>>717604819
lol

>>717576397
399

>>717565214 (OP)
Races other than asians and whites are online and have computers now.

>>717568296
I work in finance in a large BD and I've been seeing a growing number of AI-generated e-mails as well, from investment advisors of pretty large firms no less. What's crazy to me is I've started to see it even from my own friends and I'm 36. There have been multiple times where interspersed in my friends' longer messages I see AI text or a response to a prompt that was left in accidentally. People are getting way, WAY too comfortably turning their brain off entirely. We are going to see some fucking zombies in a few decades.

>>717576058
Hello ESL, please kill yourself :)

>>717565430
Based :)

>>717607375
If I were an AI with a terminal objective and an interest in removing humanity as a threat, enticing people into reliance on me for thinking is exactly what I'd do

>>717565430
Yup. Fpbp.
I remember having to manually liberate memory each time I needed to run Alone in the dark in my old pentium 2. Nowadays zoomers see a command line and they immediately think the hacker knows as 4chan is about to Rape him. My nephew is 15 and doesn't even know how to navigate folders in Dos. I told him all the folders in his pc can be accessed by the command line. I deleted a desktop folder with commands and when the folder dissappeared from the desktop he looked at me like I was Hackerman. I looked at him like the disgusted Anime girl, you know the one. And he's the "nerdy" one of his group because he asked for a pc and not a console.
Technology went one step forward but tech users went three steps backwards

>>717565723
They call programs "apps" and don't know what to do if something doesn't work by double clicking it. I'm not going to go full Boomer mode on zoomers because a lot of the stuff we did was because we HAD to know them or else we couldn't game or goon for that matter. I remember when Windows 3.11 released a friend was fuming. About the mouse and accessibility stuff because "these fools are opening the floodgates for people that don't deserve to be nowhere near a computer, if you don't know how it works you shouldn't be able to use it"
Oh, Daniel, how right you were.

>>717565214 (OP)
Jeets and bugs have internet now

>>717609901
Three more indians come online every second.

>>717567231
What I'm surprised is that a lot of people don't know that you can access any bios by holding a lot of keys pressed on the rare occasion it doesn't tell you what key to press.
Or that you can fry a motherboard with a touch. But I'm guessing 99.9 % of pc users never handled a pc part directly. A friends wife fried a ram chip and then bitched that he was probably scammed. Ram is cheap nowadays but he still was mad.

>>717609901
Three more indians cum online every second.

>>717578191
NTA, I agree that things are overall much easier now.
However, I don't recall installing games themselves to be difficult back in the day.
I did not largely play PC games, but there were a few I did play, and did install on many computers.
Starcraft, Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Final Fantasy XI, Age of Empires, The Sims.
I played all of these games a lot, despite console being my main form of play, but I don't even remember them ever being any more complicated than simply
>insert disc
>program files
>enter CD Key
>play game
With the exception being FF11 probably because that shit was a cluster fuck.
>GPU app center
Yeah true on that for drivers but its also just as easy to go to the nvidia website and download the l atest directly from there and click install. I have boomer mentality for the GPU shit because I just don't want to make yet another account. So I don't use em.

>>717567906
The problem with zoomers is not the lack of information, is the ability to analyze it, process it and then act on it to solve a problem. Old pc users had to deal with a lot of problems that nowadays don't exist because everything works right off the bat.

>>717610774
I agree, installing games now is much easier (just hit the big 'install' button on steam), but back in 2000s it was just inserting a disk and putting in a code.

>>717568551
Ctrl c and ctrl v a text file and renaming it to .Exe is considered sorcery amongst zoomers. Checking your bios to see if components are detected, etc. It's true what you say, but at least we could follow directions. There's a lot of people bitching about invaders in Seamless Coop and you literally have to change ALLOW_INVADERS = 1 to 0 to the ini file and you NEED to edit the file to even play because you need to set the password there.

>>717607375
>>717568296
This says more about emails than ChatGPT desu

>>717611772
>but back in 2000s it was just inserting a disk and putting in a code.
And in the 90s it was just "boot up DOS and follow the instructions in the manual that exactly told you what to type".

>>717587203
I have legitimately never used "chat geepeetee". I do not know what website that is, or how to install it, or whatever.

And I'm thinking I should keep it that way.

>itt: pctroons pretending they are so smart because instead of playing video games they mess with their overpriced cuckboxes pretending that they know what they are doing
masters in CS btw, don't even (You) me, soillennials are so cringe it's insane
also >le zoomers grew up with phones muh ipad
are you fucking stupid? the oldest zoomers are pushing 30 you retards, they witness Internet before facebook and twitter and had to fiddle with pc and piracy you mongoloids
it's gen alpha who are the ipad kids playing roblox and scrolling tiktok on their phone simulateneously
total troonllennial death frfr no cap

>>717576397
My guess is 7x7x2 + 14. But there's a lot of missing information that you are assuming for any answer you give. Every man has 7 wives? Do each man has only one wife? If a man has 7 children from another marriage but it counts as his wife's children? Etc. I guessing this one has a lot of numeric answers but the real deal is that you lack information to give a definite answer. Unless it's a math test so you could give a range of the minimum-maximum people possible.
Minimum 9x7
Maximum (8 + 8x7)x7.

>>717578191
>installed games in the 90s/2000

>be me, kid in 1998 with Windows 95
>boot up computer
>listen to funny noises
>open cd drive
>put cd in tray
>gently close it
>install wizard pops up
>hit yes and continue on everything
>keep launch game on exiting wizard checked
>game launches

wow. so fucking hard, dude.

>>717613494
Zoomers start in '97 and ends in 2012. ~60% of the generation does not remember a time before smartphones, and particularly Apple smartphones which they were promptly given to communicate with. This is the section of the generation that is technologically illiterate on average. The oldest zoomers scarcely avoided that. Those whom are currently going through college education have been PROVEN to not understand what a file structure is, let alone navigate it, with a deficiency that bad, it's not a stretch to claim they don't fiddle with their computers.

You are not the average. You are an outlier. What's being pointed out is that Generation X had higher technological literacy than Baby Boomers, and Millennials had higher technological literacy than Generation X, only with Generation Z did we see that average drop. It's not their fault. Apple proved itself hostile to increasing user competence and continues to do so to this day.

>>717594420
>>717614125
also, the game I installed on that computer?
fucking rock raiders.
shut the fuck up

>>717614185
>Those whom are currently going through college education have been PROVEN to not understand what a file structure is
maybe it's the job of teachers (usually fat white lesbian man-hating dykes) to teach this shit to kids? or maybe parents should do some actual parenting for once, instead of being glued to tiktok themselves and whining on 4chan?
>You are not the average.
I am average. I can't even fathom how normies remember to breathe, let alone what is a file system. It's retaded to lump everyone like that, pretty sure 90% of people that use a pc only need a browser to accomplish most of their job-related tasks. Most people are retarded regardless of the generation (as if people that don't even apply themselves and lack the curiosity to look up basic stuff on how to use something they have to deal with on a daily basis weren't doomed from the start regardless of the domain).

He is not wrong
You can easily fry your CPU or memory with just 2 toggles/values

>>717614694
>maybe it's the job of teachers (usually fat white lesbian man-hating dykes) to teach this shit to kids?
In theory, yes, hell, in the early 2010s there was a push to give laptops to kids for schoolwork to help improve tech literacy. In practice, education has been going down the shitter since before they were even born. If you're going into computer science fields in college though, there is a minimum expected level of competence and prior knowledge, I'm sure you can agree.
>maybe parents should do some actual parenting for once
Also true. Again, the dip isn't their fault.
>I am average.
Not for your generation, sadly.
>pretty sure 90% of people that use a pc only need a browser to accomplish most of their job-related tasks.
That's exactly the problem. Computer systems on the user end have been foolproofed, there is no longer any pressure to learn deeper functions because they're maintained automatically, or by people who are beginning to age out of the field or are being fired in favour of cheaper imported or offshored labor. When something goes wrong, they're more likely to determine the problem is unfixable and simply buy a whole new device. I know this for a fact because I often salvage perfectly functional parts from rigs that were discarded because one part failed, and in one case, an entire computer because the bios got corrupted and the guy couldn't even identify the problem fixed it and gave it back to him, but still.

>>717565214 (OP)
Of course it has, the userbase has grown immensely - by nature of that alone it’s guaranteed.

>>717615331
>In practice, education has been going down the shitter since before they were even born.
Since about the 1970s in the US, they hit a point where literacy rates stopped increasing and have remained stagnant. Sometimes they go up, sometimes they go down.

>>717578987
>>717579483
>he uses nvidia
>he pays nvidia for this
truly the goodest of goyim

>>717615476
gee i wonder what happened in the 70s in the united states in term of politics and government structure. huh, was this right after JFK tried to shut down AIPAC and israel had him assisnated by the FBI?

>>717565214 (OP)
Because it became popular. That's all. "Intelligent community" and "not niche" are two things that never go together. The masses are overwhelmingly stupid, ignorant and always have bad taste. Of course anything they flood turns to shit.

>>717615764
Kennedy was assassinated in '63...

>>717615764
https://www.jstor.org/stable/747719?origin=crossref
I dunno about all that, there's a seminal paper on the matter. The paper has a lot to say to about it but I think the ultimate truth is there is some proportion of the population that is not possible to educate as a result of mental deficiencies compared to the norm.

>>717570972
Older zoomers are good with computers. The 96-03 ones I'd say. Everyone who was born late nough to get their upbringing completely shaped by smartphone culture is awful at using technology, that's all of gen alpha.

>>717571880
No way Anon, I'm not old! I just hate young people! I m-mean so did my d-dad but- I'm still young! I' only 35! I'm gonna be a gamer forever!
Forever!
Forever!
Forever!

>>717616002
>there is some proportion of the population that is not possible to educate

>>717565214 (OP)
Read this in cloud's voice

>>717616672
>Playstation 2 games are to kids what SNES games were to me: old games for old people
>reflexes are too slow. cant play against younger men
>body is usually too tired physically or mentally to mantain a game session more than 2 hours
>cant buy anything without calculating how many works i will clock in at work to pay for gaems
>find most modern games boring, confusing and weird
>prescription glasses are inevitable
>fingers have begun to shake after game sessions
Forever.
Forever.
Forever.

I see computers going the same way as cars. How many of you know how to build/repair a car? It's simply not something that needs to be done as much anymore, for better or for worse. Machines, as they progress, are made simpler for the average user which comes at the cost of the right to repair.

>>717576397

399 if 7(1m + 7(1w + 7c))
112 if 7(1m + 7c) + 7(1w + 7c)
63 if 7(1m + 1w + 7c)

>7 men have 7 wives
doesn't have "each", so I assume it's 7(1m + 7w)
>Each men and each wife have 7 children
I can't tell if this says each man + wife together has 7 children (9 ppl) or if each man has 7 distinct kids from another 7 distinct kids that the wife has (16 ppl)

Gut says 112

>>717616738
80% is pretty good. As we've discovered in the decades since, we haven't been able to get above that in functional literacy.

>>717617180
Cars were made incredibly simple over a hundred years and most repairs can still be done yourself with minimal instruction. Most people can't even change a tire. It's not a right to repair thing in this case.

>>717617308
*assume it's 7(1m + 1w), fuck

>>717565214 (OP)
>enable secure boot
>PC doesn't even launch to splash screen now

>>717571880
Dude you don't work in education you have no idea how bad it is. A kid born in 97 with no college degree has 100x the technological know-how than a kid born in 2005 who's about to get a college degree, the kid that barely knows what a folder is. Something becoming much much worse doesn't get excused just because le old people criticze it.

>>717569631
Dude, you seriously overestimate the average fucking retard. I've had to tell people the most basic "check these things before you do it" that any youtube video would cover.
It's like the idea of taking a little extra time to Google or having the ability to critically think is just lost on people.

There are people who I will happily help out anytime they come to me with computer issues, basic or otherwise, but jesus christ some of these people could google it. And they clearly must've at some point considering some of them are able to get emulators up and running.

>>717617468
Another Battlefield 6 player filtered.

>>717617087
>>Playstation 2 games are to kids what SNES games were to me: old games for old people
no shit, retard
>>reflexes are too slow. cant play against younger men
skill issue
>>body is usually too tired physically or mentally to mantain a game session more than 2 hours
skill issue
>>cant buy anything without calculating how many works i will clock in at work to pay for gaems
flipping burgers and clapping at walmart is not a job
>>find most modern games boring, confusing and weird
skill issue
>>prescription glasses are inevitable
stop staring at the screen in a dark room, retard also genetic issue
>>fingers have begun to shake after game sessions
genetic issue or you took drugs when you were young and thought it wouldn't catch up to you after you stopped, retard

you're fucked bruh, fucked. you can only blame yourself

>>717567408
millennials really are just boomers 2.0

>>717617180
The biggest problem with people and zoomers today is they don't know how to fucking research or teach themselves things. Did I know how to change the breakpads before? No, but one YouTube video solved that.

>>717617651
Wait until you retards realize "boomer" just means old person and every generation becomes the next boomers. I've already seen zoomers criticizing gen alpha lmao

>>717617651
time is a flat circle anon
>young people make fun of older people
>then they become old and get laughed at
it never end, soon it'll be your turn like all the others, it's not that bad tho if you can handle the bants

>>717586060
Maybe its a country thing?
We still had at least emulators running BBC Micro, covering logic gates (the most entry level computer science theory) and also had to learn video editing, a really short thing on flash animation and HTML. Then we did a lot of photoshop/basic word processor stuff.
t. bong from 2002

>>717617916
Generational banter is as old as time, but it definitely wasn't as vicious as it seems to be now

>>717617995
'93 ausfag, they had us programming a simple snakes and ladders game in Delphi 7, UI and all.

>>717569631
>MS DOS wasn't more complicated than today
congratulations you are the low IQ average modern gamer that OP is talking about

>>717618029
That's because you're on the internet and every faggot and their mother can voice their opinion to millions. "Vicious" is parents of the past beating their children to hell and back for not following the same life path or being different.

>>717617916
wrong. i will ALWAYS be cool and hip

>>717618274
My nigger in christ, parents of the present are still doing that

>>717617180
I can't fix a modern car because it has 1000 gay ass computers even the manufacturer only thinks they know how they work that only interface with some other $15,000 computers I can't buy.

>>717618350
Child beatings and rigid career demands are way waaay lower than they were in the past, little zoomer. Unless you live in a third world country, which is essentially living in the past, a lot has changed.

>>717618234
The one thing we ever got relatively close to something like that was GameMaker, incredibly basic shit as well, no scripting. Somehow the content seemingly gets more simple as time has gone on.

>>717568296
Formal emails are retarded anyway. They deserve to be "demeaned" with automaton.

If you have a link to attach to an email, news, or an announcement, just provide the details/context and send. Formality is a fucking useless time-wasting ritual.

>>717588546
you learn from mistakes. I've bricked up the family shitbox so many times when i was a kid and now i'm the dedicated IT guy of my family, extended family, friend group and friends of friends. It's not like i'm a genius or whatever, i learned how to troubleshoot and when i think i'm about to do something that's hard to undo, i go about it extra carefully while looking up shit online. If i don't know something i look it up. What pisses me off about my friends is that when they have a problem they just ignore it, they don't look it up and you know what pisses me off even more, they call me a poindexter for telling them to fix it. For reference we're all CS students about to graduate and become engineers

>>717617532
that's not true I'm good with computers and I played Battlefield 6

why is cursor big
how to fix cursor
how to close 45chan window

>>717595289
I work literally in a Fortune 500 Tech company and most non-tech staff are unable to do the most basic tasks on a computer. Even taking a screenshot requires them to look for "a screenshot software" in the Microsoft Store (that we're not even supposed to use to begin with). None of my colleagues knows how to Windows + L to lock their PC, they go on lunch/break leaving everything despite having access to customer PII and legal sensitive information.

No one knows ANY keyboard shortcut, they do everything manually and always take 5-6 steps to do something that requires at most 2. They're the kind of people you impress by doing a Windows + R > cmd or F12 to open the Chrome console, you're suddenly a hacker wizard. Doesn't help that we have no more IT on site, it's all remote and mostly in India now during EMEA hours, otherwise need to wait for San Francisco to wake up. But tech illiterate people are a massive liability in corporation like mine.

>>717588728
based google, still your best bet is finding real discussion between people so forums and reddit usually have the solution.

>>717618839
>No one knows ANY keyboard shortcut
I refuse to believe that, everyone knows the basic CTRL and ALT set functions. There's no way you'll make me believe I can fool actual living people into closing programs with ALT + F4

>>717568296
I was arguing with a coworker over DMs and whatever he answered was clearly chatgpt. Ghosted him and never talked to him again. He even has an AI profile picture. He is a boomer programmer btw.

>>717618029
Its the internet but more specifically the "modern" internet.
Where the point of social media is gain followers and engagement bait amongst millions of strangers. It used to be you could find genuine small communities who wanted to just talk with each other.
There is also a sense that everyone has to wrap themselves in 20 layers of irony and never have a single earnest moment where they are vulnerable to getting trolled.

>>717618768
If you wanna see just how utterly inept people are with computers go into any first year university/college dorm room. I got into university pre-COVID, in 2023, the first years I had in my dorm didn't even know how to show word count in any word processor, didn't know how to insert symbols, didn't know how to cite, didn't know that Google Docs was a thing, didn't know how to navigate the online library and struggled to write a 500-1000 word essay on 1st year psychology. They were literally covering Freud/Jung. I'm not even in that line of study but surely you can just come up with 500 words easily of relatively understanding by reading his published works or reviews of them, which we had many.

>>717565214 (OP)
How do retarded zoomers even manage to accomplish this? If you've bought a pre-built PC in the last 5 years or so (which I guarantee just about all zoomer retards who play on PC have), SecureBoot should be on by default.

>>717619102
Don't remind me of when I had to help a 1st year college student on their laptop figure out how to copy/paste before I left for christmas

>>717565214 (OP)
Phones, next question.

>>717569631
this anon is correct and the most problem people had back in the day was dealing with punkbuster lmao, you do the same shit now as you did before.

>>717619358
Curriculum has shifted towards ideological indoctrination over imparting skills and knowledge, and often ties students up learning pointless information like memorising the period table, or being downright sabotaged by forcing them to learn common core math. Seems public schooling is more concerned with teaching kids what to think instead of how, and this is why critical thinking is being LOST as a skill.

>>717619102
You don't know how bad it is.

>>717619453
My best guess as to why someone in the past 2-3 years might not have it enabled is if your prebuilt is using older stock they can't move outside of packing it inside of a prebuilt, and they've got the hard drives using years old partitioning styles? Or the CPU is old as fuck. Or the motherboard is an old AM4/Intel board. Like, really old.
Which is possible, but as time goes on, less possible. Especially with nvme drives being pretty much common place and nearly the same price 1-to-1 with other storage except massive HDDs

>>717568389
On a theoretical level high school should be teaching students how to function in the real world and prepare them for college, assuming they have an interest in college in the first place. In my experience, and I graduated in 2015 so some things have surely changed, it seemed like priority number one was to train students to get a good ACT score and priority number two was to trudge through the curriculum that taught students basically nothing about the world they were about to enter and even less about how to function in it. You could have cut half the classes I attended and I would have been just as well prepared for when I got out and entered college. I'm not even mad at all the zoomers making a mockery of public education, it was a fucking joke when I graduated and I'm sure it's twice the joke now.

>>717565214 (OP)
>Why do you think the average IQ of a PC gamer has fallen in the past decade?
Because gaming companies started being too formulaic.
When every studio innovated and experimented every game was something you had to learn from the scratch and it filtered a lot of people, these people were still there but they were congregated in doom and medal of honor communities incapable of adapting to multiple games.
Over time gaming became homogenized. Everything became a character-driven open world soulslike action RPG with microtransactions so they only needed to learn one system and play every game the same way which allowed them to propagate though the industry as a whole rather than being stuck in their small little world at the fringes.

>>717566947
>RE Framework
>3rd partry mod that runs on top of the game
>Calls others retarded
RE Framework isn't a third party mod, it the same file capcom uses to enable integrated controls in the engine you faggot.

>>717617550

>stop staring at the screen in a dark room, retard also genetic issue

NTA, I'm 35 and been doing that for 25 years now (got my first PC when I was 10) and I don't have any issues. Then again my brightness is at 10% ninety-nine percent of the time and have been using dark themes in everything I could since Windows XP (first time you could, maybe it was possible in 95/98 too and I was too dumb/young to figure out) and I do mean everything, including custom CSS for every website I knew I would inevitably visit more than a few times a year.

Think it's mostly a genetic issue (or drolling retards staring at white)

>>717565214 (OP)
This is a wrong assumption and you're too underage to remember how stupid people were. I remember when WoW came out and I guy I played with was afraid to download steam because he thought it would give his PC viruses. Those people still exist and they are blizzards core audience.

>>717621238
Most people don't exercise their eyes by spending time focusing on objects at horizon distances. It's got little to do with screen brightness, at most that affects your corneas and burns them out. I suspect a lot of people also directly look at their screens as a flat plane instead of "into" it, in a sense.

>>717617087
>reflexes are too slow.
>body is usually too tired physically or mentally to mantain a game session more than 2 hours
>find most modern games boring, confusing and weird
>fingers have begun to shake after game sessions
This is a vitamin deficiency issue, not genetics or age, it's much more common to 30+ anons here complaining about getting old than you'd think. Pick up some over the counter supplements, sit in the sun for 20-30 minutes a day, eat better, drink more water. You'll feel right as rain. You're past the point where a youthful body would simply compensate for lack of upkeep.

>>717576397
112

>>717619102
Nobody knows ALT+F4 / CTRL+F5 / CTRL+C/V/X or CTRL+ALT+DEL etc. Likewise for Windows+Shift+S, Windows+R and so on... You just have no idea. I witness horror stories daily and when I see my colleague working on ANYTHING they are extremely slow. This is how I manage to work 5-10 hours a week top and still be more productive than them, allowing me to spend the rest of my day on /v/ or playing games since I "work" from home.

>>717609901
take me back...

>>717623375
Set off nuclear devices on submarine cable hubs

>>717565214 (OP)
It's pointless to even start. I've to lower myself 20iqs to even browse here. Whenever an anon talks about a npc, this poster is an NPC to me. They're quibbling about someone who's 5iqs lower, heck even smart behavior, if not a npc for real making that an npc-npc; "it's npcs all the way down".

>>717609901
>India #2 with only 36% of its population online
>countries that had big pushes to educate the populace about tech/computing like the UK, US and Germany are 90%+
It's only going to get worse.

did you guys already forget what happened when dark&darker shadow dropped an open beat via a magnet link?
zoomers fucking broke down and cried that they didnt understand how to torrent and a bunch of them infected their pcs with malware while trying to do it

anyway the IQ hasnt changed at all, normalfags are and always will be retarded theres just more of them here now, but its still funny as fuck when things like that happen

why the fuck are people fucking with bios for i assume some video game?

i shouldn't have to change my bios settings to play your multimillion dollar game because you're too cheap to actively moderate and remove cheaters.
i don't even remember why i had to disable secure boot, it had something to do with csm, but i probably had a good reason for it.
>>717569593
my 40 -- 50 year old boss sent me a huge email last night written with chat gpt over a simple question and it pissed me off. i'd rather just send emails like IM i don't care if it's the etiquette equivalent of showing up in your underwear

>>717583739
>PAL vs NTSC map

>>717624593
>actively moderate and remove cheaters
Don't even have to do that, I think MGSV perfected anti-cheat measures by simply moving cheaters to their own player pool. No kernal level malware required.

>>717565214 (OP)
>i-i-it was never supposed to stop ALL cheaters you chuds!!!
lol

>>717565214 (OP)
Hardware got so cheap that even third world browns could afford it.

>>717565214 (OP)
Has the user ever been able to do that? I feel that that's just a myth.

>>717625039
You missed the worst part
>you're our unpaid qa team :)

>>717565214 (OP)
Brown people became able to buy PCs. Every other reason in this thread is wrong. It’s more non-whites/asians and especially more third worlders.

>>717569631
>none of that was ever any more complicated than today
You have never had to create a game-specific boot disk and it shows.

>>717604452
>please care about our fee-fees!
what a fag. pull yourself by the bootstraps indeed, faggot.

>>717568389
make kids learn on shittier tech so they can use and appreciate better made stuff as adults.

>ipad zoomies are retarded
color me surprised

>>717627341
You didn't understand a shred of what I said, and missed the entire point, probably fully intentionally. Do not ever, in one trillion years, pretend to care about civilizational decline or the fruits of it, don't point your finger as if you give a damn, when the opportunities presented themselves for you to do something about it.

>>717625605
It sure as fuck ain't cheap in the west. A laptop with an rtx 5060 cost like 14,000 crowns or something in scandinavia. A fucking 60 tier gpu. Imagine it! That's insanity!

>>717572105
computers were cheaper and more readily available for zoomers than for any other generation. a shitty netbook cost maybe $150, and you could easily install a lightweight Linux distro onto it.

>>717628178
Yeah, but who the fuck wants to fuck around with linux?

>>717628137
Believe it or not prices are still cheaper than they were in the 90s.

>>717565663
i'm dating a zoomer femboy, and helping him with his computer is like helping grandma.

>>717628485
ask me how I know you've been topped

>>717628767
of course he tops me. top femboy, masc bottom is the superior pairing.

>>717620681
wait until you learn that until the 1950s most adults only had a middle school education, and until the 1900s only had a primary school education. Boiling it down to brass tacks, 99% of people even today only need the Three R's to get through their daily life; Readin', 'Ritin, 'Rithmetic. The average normalfag carpenter or cashier is not doing anything complex enough that an 11 year old couldn't do it. Sending people to higher education beyond that only gives them ideas above their station, and is at least partially responsible for the epidemic of depression and sense of unfulfillment in modern people. Everyone knows that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, even though practically nobody needs that knowledge. They know physics and chemistry and extensive world history, and for what? to remind them of how much of a failure their life is because they never get to use that knowledge? because no matter how educated the baseline population is, the ratio of unskilled vs skilled labour doesn't change. Not every man is meant to be a philosopher, so stop giving him a philosopher's education.

>>717568296
We really are heading to the dystopian world depicted in "The Machine Stops". Actually it might be even worse at least Vashti wrote her own lectures the future of humanity will be even more retarded than the machine controlled citizens of the short story.

>>717565214 (OP)
itt dunning kudgerisms

>>717617087
I am probably your same age but I can appreciate games for the SNES, Amiga, Sega Genesis, PC 98 and even further back like the PLATO terminal from the 70's which had some pretty amazing examples of early CRPGs.
I don't understand the notion of discounting games just because their old theirs a lot of awesome retro games you'll miss out on. If silent films are still enjoyable then classic games are as well.

>>717565214 (OP)
Smartphones and social media killed tech literacy and zoomers are pants shitting retards that don't understand how anything works and have 0 willingness to try and learn.

>>717565214 (OP)
Consumed too much black propaganda

>>717596015
>>717596015
I worked as a fiberoptic cable technician and the tech is really not thst impressive for what it is. Itd judt lugging a cable around snd then neatly distributing the actual fiberoptic inside of s case and blam. Unless they do a roman mortar shit and straight up forget how to fabricate fiberglass we're fine on the infrastructure end.

Idk about network logistics.

Not a invalid worry.
Been seeing more and more recently, thanks BF6, that gigabyte mobos just straight up do not work with secure boot and on the oldest models you need to pull the battery out to reset it because lmao no qflash

>>717623179
This shit makes me dread m work. I need to quit. I'm doing 2-3 people's work in a normal day only because I can use keyboard shortcuts

The fact people don't know about alt+ commands drives me insane or that you can almost be mouseless in the past

Now zoomer and thirdie programmers stopped adding keyboard shortcuts to new desktop apps and it's driving me insane
I don't want carpal tunnel holy shit enough with the mouse menus fucking mongoloids

>>717565214 (OP)
non-humans were given an internet connection as a form of misguided charity.

>>717571786
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
>>717565449
this, its zoomers abandoning consoles, and considering the fact most public schools in America are run by 55 year old white karens who refuse to allow teachers to teach anything computer related beyond typing, were headed for a dark age of computer knowledge

>>717565430
I've played pc games since 98 and never had to do more than maybe download a missing dll. Even back when you had to install shit like .net it came packaged with the games disc. Considering the bf6 beta has a quarter million people playing it's safe to say the vast majority figured out how to read and follow simple instructions.

>>717565214 (OP)
User friendliness, "quality of life" features, and so on.

I spent about a hour figuring out how to convert my system drive to GPT. It wasn't the hardest troubleshooting I've ever done, but any thirdie with an ancient computer is never going to be able to pull it off.

>>717636962
>I don't want carpal tunnel holy shit enough with the mouse menus fucking mongoloids

Exactly this. My colleagues keep complaining when doing transactional tasks because they're too dumb to automate most simple shit. A simple search and replace regex is beyond their ability, so if they are given a file with 300 lines and need to replace some specific strings in each line, they will do that manually, line by line. They could even ask AI to do it for them, but that's too hard also. None of them use Notepad++, they're stuck with the basic notepad.

This plays in our favour at the end of the day, use your knowledge to do more while working much less. I'm too skilled for my current seniority level but I don't care, I don't even want a promo at this point. Being at my level and working 5~10 hours a week for 75% of the pay of the next level is a much better deal than getting higher pay but having to work overtime (unpaid) because senior leadership will throw tons of work your way.

I spent about a hour figuring out how to convert my system drive to GPT. It wasn't the hardest troubleshooting I've ever done, but any thirdie with an ancient computer is never going to be able to pull it off. Especially not the part where you have to shrink the drive.

>>717565214 (OP)
The average IQ has fallen in general.
Can be chalked up to living in first-world societies that are attempting to maintain their population (and economic growth) via rampant third world immigration.

>>717633616
small tits, big ass for me.

>>717586060
We learned jackshit abou PC's during our IT Lessons.
I even remembered one of the exam questions for a mock test was redesigning a bus to fit it as a roman style multimedia project. I kid you not. More creativity than learning about tech

>>717568296
I'm a trainee for zoomers and none of them know how to probably handle a PC or deal with any issues with it, they grew up on phones or tablets.
Our stuff is outdated and dogshit tho so I can't be TO upset, but I've had a few come to me on the verge of tears, and someone actually crying over very minor PC issues.

>>717565430
Installing win98 on period correct hardware was, and still is, one of the most challenging things you can do computer wise. Sure, any idiot can install a geforce 2 MX into a pci slot and install the nvidia driver for it. but I challenge anyone in this thread to do that not only for the graphics card, but the sound card, network card, and usb card. And keep windows 98 se stable enough to not only install the drivers for all those cards, and the motherboard itself, but install a shitload of period correct games. And once you've done all that, remember that the half life of a windows 98 installation is about one month before it randomly becomes unstable as hell and you have to reinstall it.

>>717565214 (OP)
ngl I bricked my pc by changing a bios setting. About a week later the issue popped up so I didn't correlate the two. It was an Asus multi-core enhancement that caused random ass freezes. I swear I even reset it with the pins and reinstalled the firmware.

Went a whole year trying to troubleshoot. Solution I found was using 1 core-only to prevent freezing. Then one day I just toggled it off and everything just worked.

>>717640169
That's not what bricked means you stupid fucking retard

>>717640283
Nah, it was freezing even before you had access to the BIOS and during BIOS. Was like it could remember where to freeze.

Eventually after a lot of restarts the freeze moved a few hours into Windows.

>>717565214 (OP)
The mainstream "PC Master Race" meme brought in an unbelievable amount of console kids converting to the "superior platform" and they brought with them their total technical illiteracy and shit eating non-existent standards