Thread 717580170

The GOTY of MMORPGs is going to release soon bros https://www.youtube.com/live/e5p6M71bDL0

>>717580170 (OP)
can you make child-like sluts again in this it's VERY important

>>717580309
this isn't tera bro

>>717580337
why isnt it tera? who asked for aion?

>2025
>Still believing korean slops can be good
It's dead on arrival, like Chrono Odyssey or whatever.

>>717580170 (OP)
>KMMO
Who still falls for this shit? Throne and Liberty just bombed. Chrono Odyssey was bland as fuck.

>>717580170 (OP)
>Aion 2
>another situation of smartphone mmo being ported to pc at the last moment
>all the baggage of korean mmos
No thanks.

The west and east is just to different in what we are looking for in an mmorpg hence we can never reconcile.

>>717581107
they confirmed in the livestream that mobile is mostly for side tasks like crafting or stuff

LMAOOOOOO wtf is this loli

Ashes of Creation status?

>>717580170 (OP)
>lost ark died
>throne and liberty died
>chrono odyssey was poo
>bellatores beta test was also poo
>architect is mobile pc mmo, so automatic poo
>aion 2 is gonan save us!!!!!!
>archeage chronicles is goina save us!!!!!!!!!!
When will you idiots learn, never expect anything from South Korea but purple nurples. Where Winds Meet will be the only decent MMO that comes out of Asia for the next 4 years.

combat looks MID as fuck it's over

>>717580170 (OP)
Is the mech class back?

I can't wait to pay to win in another grindy korean slop that plays itself where the person with the most IRL money wins

Looks like ass

>>717580170 (OP)
Why is every skill icon the same color? And the player health and mana bar UI are plain bars.

>>717580337
Tera character creation was shit because you were tied to racial traits.

>>717580170 (OP)
boob slider?

>>717583740
how will that enhance the gameplay and system driven content?

>>717580170 (OP)
>f2p kmmo
yeah this shit is going to be fucking p2w

>>717582590
>wuxiaslop

>>717582590
Grand Chase is going to release its 24th character. Clearly being South Korean isn't the problem.

>>717580903
>>717580830
There's more successful KMMO's than western slops

>>717585701
If men have butt sliders, I'm sold!

>>717585701
i boughted. based koreans

>>717585827
Korean MMORPG releases
>"OMG IT WILL DIE LIKE THESE 2 OTHER GAMES THE PAST DECADE! SLOP SLOP!"
Western MMORPG releases
>"n-nooo this time it will certainly fail! Ignore the fact that all these hundred of western MMORPG's that died just the past few years"

>>717580170 (OP)
>still looks inferior to XIV
>still looks inferior to WoW
>still looks inferior to ESO
>still looks inferior to even NW
When will F2Pfags ever learn that all korean F2P MMOs are garbage gameplay made to milk you dry? The only exception is PoE for not being pay2win, and that one kills every F2Pslop each time it launches a new league, like it did to Lost Ark, Undecember, Last Epoch, the list goes on.

>>717586160
>PoE
>has to pay for stash tabs
>you NEED to do this to trade
>entire game is centered around trading
>not p2w
Hey Chang.

>>717580170 (OP)
>more cash grab wow clone slop
oh amazing truly goty

>>717585586
>GranChase
KoG killed it, re-released it to make their players start from scratch and suddenly releases a new character while putting Elsword into maintainance mode.

...GrandChase is still shit after Uno came out and killed the game along with shitty events like Pet Revolution.

>>717586538
Cry about it Elshitter LMAO

>>717586248
>conveniencefag whale
>"it's pay to win"
Every single time.

>>717580903
retards who are easily baited by red vs blue, see >>717585827

>>717585701
they put all this effort into character sliders but the gameplay is always shit

>>717586606
Elsword was also shit unironically at the same time Uno released in GrandChase of you ask. KoG is basically gookbrained in general, and killing GrandChase wasn't enough, as they also made Kurtzpel as DoA garbage with the beta full of clunky skills, lack of class identity, zero story development, and already heavily pay to win. Korean devs always ruin their games, no matter what.

>>717586248
>you NEED to do this to trade
I never did lmao

>>717583989
Korean mmo is all about doll customisation

>>717586160
Its so weird to see premade post pop on 4chan like it's just youtube's comment. Why even have catpchas when humans have become the bots?

>>717586248
>not using bank characters
OH-NO NO NO NO NO NO...

>>717587547
>Its so weird to see premade post pop on 4chan like it's just youtube's comment.
>posts like one
>also ESL

>>717585827
Yeah that usually works out when Korean is the #1 MMO producer in the world and pumps out at least 1 or 2 new one every year.

>>717587820
Yeah unlike western slop that releases 10 each year that dies within weeks

let me guess
>either delayed launch in the west or no confirmed launch in the west
>plagued by daily stamina, P2W out the ass, gacha, lootbox or so grindy that you require multiple characters funneling all of their resources into one just to stay current
if any of that is the case, I couldn't care less

>>717587870
Ah yes. Western MMOs! Go ahead and name off AAA Western MMOs yous peak off that have come out each year. It should be easy for you if they release 10 each year :)

Let me guess you're going to name off a bunch of indie garbage titles lmao. Stay mad, jong.

>>717588040
>MMORPG requires... grinding?
>AIEEEEE SAVE ME BLIZZARD-SAMA
I'm glad that gook MMOS still filters WoWbabies

>>717586248
bro, that's pay4convenience, and even then it's permanent yet guaranteed stash unlocks rather than unstable gacha upgrade rolls. not to mention that you can stash items on other characters to free space in your stash

>>717580170 (OP)
Only incoming mmorpg that might be good would be Guild Wars 3, if it even happens. And even still, this is being too hopeful.

>>717588106
>lvljump your character instantly to the maximum
>to hit the paywall faster
Good goy.

>>717588238
What do you win when paying in the Korean MMOs?

>>717580170 (OP)
Aion was the best MMO ever made that was killed due to NC's incompetence

The same people are still in charge and NC is doing bad financially so I don't see Aion 2 faring any better unfortunately. It will probably be like nuBnS.

>>717585701
show the moment with the loli

>>717580170 (OP)
I've loved Aion art direction and ESPECIALLY the amazing OST but if they don't get away with the disgusting KRMMO curses it will just be another flop.
>P2W as fuck
>Grindy as fuck
>Upgrading gear behind a massive RNG wall (the horror stories I could tell you...)
>Losing exp or level on death
etc

Also I know it was always the most popular faction but seeing as everyone look like a shitty Elyos/Pigeon, it probably means that Asmodian are out so I will never touch it anyway.

>Aion PC required minimum 30 skill keys
>Aion2 has cut this down drastically
RIP

>>717588106
Are you pretending to be retarded or a zoom zoom that doesn't know koreans mmos are grindy because they are p2w?

>>717589164
>Can fly everywhere
>Can't just fly away from PVP
Based

isnt this just a reskin throne liberty?
lthe lockon gameplay ooks boring af

>>717589440
>Separate server for races
On one hand, sucks
On the other hand like 50% of the reason why NA servers died was due to how comically unbalanced the factions were so I guess they learned something

>>717589440
They could have done it like base Aion where flying heavily reduce your defense/resistance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IMf__GAKA

RAVING IN THE ABYSS

>>717588106
either you have no idea how lost ark functions or you are intentionally ignoring the shit design of korean mmos

>>717586248
>if you like the game, pay 30 dollars to play the game more comfortably for 10 years
vs
>you need to gamble equipment upgrades to stay competitive, 1% chance to upgrade, costs $100 each time you do it

>>717589064
Asmodians hairy backs was a dealbreaker for me. Also fuck you nigger.

We'll never forget what the Asmodians did to Deltras Storm Legion.

>>717589064
>Apply for the event when Aion launched
>They will send you a special, limited edition poster!
>Get excited and apply, being a young lad full of hopes and dreams
>Get my prize
>It's a poster of a nigger Asmodian with nigger braids

>>717580170 (OP)
Why do people still try to make MMORPGs anyway? None of them stick the landing.

>>717590374
Well in this instance they are being safe and using an existing IP

NC is also shitting the bed left and right so they might be betting a lot on this. I don't think they have any other crutches left if this was to fail?

>>717589859
Competitive for what exactly?

>>717590374
Aion Classic was like in the Top 10 of MMORPGs in korea for quite some time. Makes sense why they would make Aion 2 when a game from 2009 was pulling such large numbers.

When it comes to KMMORPGs we (rest of the world) are always an after thought. You have to consider that

>>717589859
>>you need to gamble equipment upgrades to stay competitive, 1% chance to upgrade, costs $100 each time you do it
I hate that it's not even a fucking exaggeration
Between the fact that GOOD enchant stones would cost a fucking fortune, that past +10 you could lose multiple upgrade levels while failing one...
Shit, remember the feather? How the only way to upgrade them was from stuff you could only obtain from gacha or event from the store?

Shit, I remember selling and using all my wealth to try to upgrade my weapon to +15 before quitting the game.
I started +12
After 70+ tries and 0 money left I ended up +10

Keep in mind that to get enchant stones, you needed to destroy a powerful weapon, so to get the higher level ones you needed to break stuff on par with your own gear.

See old enchant system here
https://aion.fandom.com/wiki/Enchantment

>>717590743
I deleted my characters after failing to enchant to +10 (from +7) and getting down to +3 again. It was unironically the vest move because it freed me from wasting my time on garbage ass RNG.

>tfw quit right after draegonia or whatever came out
>people talking about upgrading gear
Maybe I left just in time

>>717590962
Enchanting was already in release, what are you talking about?

>>717591035
We only had the mystical runes or whatever to slot in gear I'm certain

>>717591190
Manastone and gear enchanting/upgrades has been in since release.
t. Played the CBT on the Korean servers back in 2008

>>717588470
The ability to actually win at endgame raid content in most if not all KRMMOs, also guaranteed yet effortless win at PVP against non-paying players.

>>717591350
>also guaranteed yet effortless win at PVP against non-paying players.
Ain't that the truth...

>>717591332
>https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=84189
>January 2009
lmao I guess it was so traumatizing I completely memory wiped myself

>>717590374
easy profit, koreans go full retard with p2w no matter how shit the game is
this NC fucker in particular has been using the same game system and possibly game engine from one of their lineage mobile shits to piss out more garbage, so it's only the matter of retouching old assets and swapping them in to make a new product for them

korea made good mmos from 96-04 and then something happened
theyve all been shit since

So is it tab-target combat or real-time?

>>717588470
>What do you win when paying in the Korean MMOs?
everything in the lategame once the paywall stumbles upon you

>>717591776
are you implying tab target isn't real time?

>>717591581
In most cases, sans glitch exploits, it does.

>Them showcasing fire temple
Fucking nostalgia overload

>>717591776
Real time dot targeting

>>717591581
>when the sorc casts inferno on your ass while tree'd or sleeping

>>717590374
Korean games are generically made as quick cash cows. Once the hype is over, they kill it so another new project takes its space.

>>717588470
>he doesn't know what a paywall is

just give me tera remade with UE5 stop with the slops point & clicks

>>717591581
>Tree'd so you can't do anything
>Slept so can't do anything
>Silenced so can't use your anti CC tool and since you're stun you can't use your dispel pot either
>0 to death without being able to do anything
We love Sorcs...

>>717592430
>modern
It's ironically outdated.

>>717592540
Well to be fair they are also glass canons. I think most classes can spec into Anti-Mage Stigmas which basically neuters Sorcs and Spirit Masters for sone time.

>Equipment have random stats
>Said that there is no auto combat, slipped and said that they were making one while in the middle of combat, then again said that there is no auto combat
idk man. They keep saying shit to allay people's fears like saying that auction houses will only use in game gold currency but NC has a track record of outright lying.

Having both tab targeting and non targeting modes is neat though.

>attack motion canceling is in the game
>pets dont have stats, shop will only sell skins
>main business model planned to be from selling cosmetics
donotbelieveherlies.jpg

>>717593134
didn't those fuckers say auction house will use the same premium currency like throne & liberty's lucent?

>Having both tab targeting and non targeting modes is neat though.
literally only retards use non-targeting mode when tab target exists in throne & liberty

>>717593659
Well the stream from four hours ago said that they're using only kinah (in game gold currency that will mostly be farmed from dungeons)

>>717580170 (OP)
Combat is such a clusterfuck, you can't see shit because everyone pukes out particle effects that cover the screen while it shakes violently, pure unfiltered garbage.

>>717594313
it's a tab target with lock on so it's fine to not see shit

>>717594313
>everyone pukes out particle effects that cover the screen
SOUL

>>717580170 (OP)
I know they'll fuck it up with their Yellow Jew shit like they always do but it'd be so nice to have a new MMO to get in on the ground floor of.

>skills auto aim at boss
PEAK

yep im thinking we're back

>>717583989
sounds like a no

>>717596596
LMAO

>>717596596
Preordered

>>717596596
GOBLINA

>>717596596
Ayy lmao

>>717596596
>back to zooming little gremlins on the battlefield because its actually advantegous in PVP
YAMEROOOOOOO

>>717597006
brb, gonna make glad with big wide head

>>717580170 (OP)
I vividly recall playing AION and having to genocide some critter in the first 20ish levels. Back-to-back 50er, 100er and 200er killquests, with some equally ridiculous fetch quests with 0.000001% drop chance mixed in, but never overlapping.

Also a reminder that Aion is doing a classic+ server in 10 days

https://aiononline.plaync.com/en-us/conts/250801_update#section-1

I'm going to be honest I just can't get myself to get excited for an MMO in this day and age, it's just not going to work

>>717580170 (OP)
I was excited until I saw this stream, looks really bad.
character customization is neutered compared to the original and the new base body design is absolutely horrendous looking.

They're bringing up consumable spam garbage and I saw icons for both sprint and flight scrolls so now you have that on top of infinite flight + this new shitty pseudo action combat system with a limited stam bar

koreans are retarded and ruin anything good they make, at this point you have to realize anything outside of the NA launch version of aion is just horrible korean jank garbage

>>717598363
The fuck is classic+?

>>717598363
this is the third time SURELY it wont go pure P2W yet again, r-right?!?!

>>717580170 (OP)
>f2p KRMMO
>GotY
buy an ad

>>717598363
has any korean mmo done a real classic version

>>717580170 (OP)
I never expected Aion of all things to get a sequel.

>>717598363
Interesting, I tried playing the game a few years ago but it seemed to have been gutted with most of the zones removed. The site doesn't say much though.

>>717598363
I tried their official classic server a few years back
it was P2W from the start
It was full of third wolder doing RMT shit at endgame
All the worldbosses were camped for RMT
There was a fuckton of wintrading for ranking and easy abyss points too for PVP gear.

I'm not falling for that shit again

>>717599189
worse part is how they allowed people to buy that cash shop stat candy that also happen to vendor to npc vendors for shit loads of kinah
they put a cap on how much you could sell to vendors but what people did to bypass this after hitting cap was open player shops near vendors and let F2P players buy the candy to do the same but at a slightly reduced rate so day 1 tons of people had millions of kinah lol

>>717600210
Yeah that's what I meant when I said "P2W from the start".

>>717600480
yeah
they also do that weird ass battlepass that has tons of p2w like +flight speed wings and shit

>>717580170 (OP)
You can see from the livestream it's going to have the same pay2win enhancement system as every other Korean MMO, as well as boring daily/weekly content checklist copy-pasted from other Korean games like Lost Ark. Anyone excited for this game is so fucking stupid they make RFK Jr.'s brain worm look smart.

>>717601671
they're also just reusing assets from the original which yeah I get it nostalgia baiting is a good way to pull people in but jesus why fire temple?
anyone who actually played has PTSD from fire temple
>aion launches in NA
>learn about extendable weapons
>sweet.exe
>get high enough and attuned to enter fire temple
>nonstop grind it for over 2 weeks
>never get my classes extendable weapon to drop
>ends up burning out my irl friends so they all quit
>settle on a inferior non extendable weapon so I can at least rift pvp and have fun
>waste all of my kinah only to fail enchanting it pass the basic levels
>quit aion forever after that
never again

that point and click gameplay is not it
looks boring as fuck

Aion 2 players when they wake up in the morning:
>Oh boy, I can't wait to spend $10,000 to downgrade my weapon from +12 to +11!
You are not even human, you are cattle being milked for all you're worth. And honestly, you deserve it.

AION was a game you run around in for a few hours and never play again. Why in the fuck are they making another one?

>>717602374
one thing I'll say though is aion was one of the very first games to do properly animated dance emotes with music
it's crazy more mmorpgs don't use that model and I basically never saw it used again until fortnite which makes billions from selling musical emotes

I remember paying someone like 5 bucks to get me a code from some korean magazine to use on NA for a cute k-pop korean dance I would use it after beating archers in pvp because they were so annoying to deal with.

>>717587810
>n.n.n.nNO YOU
Jesus. The absolute state of your life, child.

>>717591581
>level 50
how old is that shit lol. mages were super shit tier in solo pvp really quickly.

>>717603439
nta but mages could literally poly you then instagib you during the first year of NA aion.
You had to carry dispel pots that would auto dispel magic effects every couple of seconds to survive against them or immediately open with hard CC and try to gib them first.

>>717603439
It was from Classic Aion, where lv50 was the max and Sorc were OP as shit for that combo + 2k DP

>>717580170 (OP)
haven't looked or clicked on a single frame of footage but-
>inb4 hotbar tab target collect 10 shits crafting station 15 currencies and a kpop idol in jorts n sunglasses next to a medieval warrior

Why are ppl in this thread so mad about a game they don't have to play? Wowfags and FFtrannies feeling threatened?

>>717605167
nah I loved the original aion but you have to be a fool not to be weary of a korean mmorpg in 2025 a lot of people have kmmo fatigue nowadays

>>717605167
Anyone who love Aion know how fucking P2W it turned out

>people complaining about KMMO's
>when WoW is the single most p2w MMORPG in existence
It's sub based, bi-yearly fully priced expansions, you can buy GOLD for real money, has a cash shop and you can buy BiS BOE gear which you NEED to do if you want to compete in raid races.

>>717606847
Mythic raid trash drops have been BOP for years

>>717580170 (OP)

AION wonned?

>>717606847
No one is arguing against that though everyone knows token = giga P2W in WoW
It's sad when the ex blizzard president even sold in-game carries, completely scummy.

>>717606847
Remember that time they celebrated their 20th anniversary by letting the paypigs buy a $90 mount?

>>717604872
So yeah, not the real game.

>>717607382
well not the modern game but it was when the game was at its most SOVLFUL and had so many people playing it that it actually had blizzard scared enough to completely rip off it's armory system at the time

*record scratch*

looks like Korean Slop MMO

>>717607581
>meta will be midget characters again but now with beards
lol kino

>>717607715
clown makeup designed to confuse the enemy as well