Thread 717637494

Sir, only the worst game mechanics imaginable are allowed entry.

Hunger, present!

Grass deterioration.

They call me...
Stamina

>>717637494 (OP)
Weapon/Item durability, I'll just head on in.

weather cycles

Encumbrance in non-survival based games.
It dosnt make the game more fun it just means fast travelling back and forth to camps to drop loot.

>kill boss
>he wins in the cutscene

3, 2, 1! DANGER

>>717637494 (OP)
Forced 100 percent collection in a collectathon

Inventory weight and limited ammo capacity

Open world here, let me just scooch on in.

escort quests

>>717637494 (OP)
timed missions

>>717638191
>>717638138
>>717638062
>>717638053
>>717637968
>>717637857
you haven't paid your tab

Content tied to time of day/weather/day of the week.

No gamer should be punished for WHEN he picks up his controller. Only how he uses it.

Reliance on iframes
Underwater levels in general
Long load times
forced stealth

Invulnerability frames coming thru

Weapon durability

fetch quests

>>717637494 (OP)
If you reload your gun while there are bullets left in the magazine you lose those bullets from your supply.

Let me show you my regenerating health with cover mechanics.

>>717637494 (OP)
Escort quests where the NPC has a different movespeed than you, I'll just let myself in.

>>717637494 (OP)
Weapon drops that can only be obtained by killing NPCs, including useful NPCs

Oh and half the NPC weapons aren't even cool

>>717638510
How many games actually do this?
I know some games where night/day cycle was tied to real life night/day cycle and there is that gba game that gave your character extra power of you were outside and it was sunny but this dosnt really seem like an issue based on how rare it is.

>>717637494 (OP)
Forced stealth missions in a non-stealth game.

Also meet my friend, conveniently placed chest high walls in a cover shooter game.

>>717637494 (OP)
Monster hunter world's clutch claw/tenderizing.

It was so fucking bad that it made me drop the game altogether.

How about having to follow walking NPCs but your walking speed doesn't match theirs.

weapon durability

>>717637494 (OP)
Escort quests and using joysticks to aim in FPS

>>717638947
>>717638856
>sir did you try rapidly tapping towards them during the whole mission?

>>717638208
This one, and the "trailing a slow NPC" stealth quests as well.

>>717638908
animal crossing

Real time combat

>>717637494 (OP)
I represent the union of arbitrary inputs to increase speed and wish to inspect your premise

>>717637937
You are truly the devil and my town will always look like a tan grid of shit thanks to you.

Backtracking in a dungeon you've just finished.

Looking at you Grandia.

>>717638334
>>717639041
guys i think this bouncer is some kind of fucking console playing zoomer

unbeatable enemies that only progress the story by you losing to them

aim assist and bullet spread that increases the longer you hold down the trigger

Only being allowed to hit the boss at certain times and you have to wait for its shitty attack cycles to finish

Now let me in bouncer.

>>717637494 (OP)
You have to lower the frame rate in order to solve puzzles. Through the settings.

>>717639339
name ONE game

there has never been a game with weapon durability where it wasn't just there to be annoying/artificially make the game take longer

>>717639364
Psychonauts.

Level scaling.

>>717639224
What??
Name 1

>>717637494 (OP)
Limited playtime per real-life day

>>717639537
apex legends

quest markers, minimap, quest log that isn't a vague diary

exploration should be diegetic ludokino

>>717639639
wtf, really? lol.

Vacc medics in tf2

endless respawn of enemies until you progress the story

dont waste my time

>>717637494 (OP)
Adaptability.

comeback mechanics in fighting games. if you're losing you should stay losing bitch.

QTEs.

>>717637494 (OP)
Real time combat with pause.

parryslop

>>717637494 (OP)
bonfires
dodgerolls
respawning enemies

>>717639974
yeah i hear those mechanics really suck if you're a faggot

>>717640010
you can always stop being one

Intentional low fps for forced animation sequences.

>Hey wouldn't it be cool if the entire game revolved around a character JUMPING?
So fucking retarded, every game does it and not realistic in the slightest.

>>717639974
TRUKE

>>717639974
don't forget: Boss moves faster and has more movesets than you

>>717638908
Any live service or MMO game does via massive FOMO events.

30-60 fps locks on PC ports

>>717639974
The fromsisters will never recover.

Thirst.

hitstop to make melee combat look "cinematic" but all it does it just make it feel unresponsive and clunky

anything Bethesda came up with

>>717637494 (OP)
NPCs who WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP WHILE I'M TRYING TO PLAY THE GAME!

boss battles in general

the story should be about me not some big faggot with scripted moves

>>717640328
fag

pay to win

>>717640328
but silent hill needed it

>>717637494 (OP)
Boss health bar that lies.

screen shake to emphasize impact

Preprogrammed execute animations
>Let me just stop playing the game so I can watch some super sugoi beheading or whatever when I could still be PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME
Fuck you nigger I didn't say stop I was just about to cum

forced weapon usuage on certain enemy types

stop messing with my play style because you want me to use a weapon that i never equip outside of this particular situation

having to move/organize inventory

Physical movement tied to momentum and weight, especially in an action game.

>>717640576
Blasphemous?

Hello, I have a reservation at the "shitstain piece of shit mechanic" table tonight?

Level scaling.

not a gameplay mechanic but
enviromental story telling

>>717637494 (OP)
bloody screen so real

>>717637494 (OP)
Weapon durability

>>717640635
Killing Floor 3.

>gender is body type a and b
ENOUGH WITH THE TROONS

>>717640794
wanna see a magic trick?

>>717640794
Sir you can leave.

>>717637494 (OP)
Soul Memory-based matchmaking

Corpse runs. It stops Hollow Knight from being the best game in its genre. The last thing I want to do in a game with a bunch of exploration is work my way back to the same spot.

Pendulum monsters from Yugioh

>>717637494 (OP)
Forced stealth sections with insta fail in non stealth games.

Depth of field
Camera motion blur
Lens flare

Technically visual mechanics, but they're so awful their presence can actively hinder gameplay. Stop doubling on the faults of the human eyeball.

>>717640794
Agreed. Character creation is cancer.

invisible walls on maps

either acknowledge it in some narration or have an object blocking my path

Silent/Non character protagonists. Writers re too lazy to come up with vibrant games which included narratives involving the mc.

>>717637494 (OP)
I think Yahtzee made a video on this one, it's the mechanic no one likes:
>Game has audio files for lore/quest/flavor but you can't play it and go do other things, you have to listen to it in the menu

>>717641126
It's one of the reason 1 was the better Nioh

>>717640985
This nigga can't imagine an apple, LMAO.

>>717641137
that shit is really the worst. in phantom pain you had it set up as a fucking cassette player too.

>>717637494 (OP)
collect x useless item quests

press button within cutscene to execute some action

>>717637494 (OP)
>Useless quest item has a weight value
>It's heavy/takes up half the inventory

>>717641381
ie tomb raider legend and metroid dread had it
>>717640627
think nomamsky or something like tarkov or project zomboid where the game is inventory management

>"deep morality system"
>eat kitten? y/n

>>717641886
I don't understand this post.

>>717637494 (OP)
Inventory management where inventory is limited by physical size.

>>717637494 (OP)
As much as I enjoyed MGSV: Phantom Pain, the obsession with developing weapons and items in real time (or you could pay more for Mother Base coins) was soul crushing.

>>717637494 (OP)
"Pursuer" style enemy

You need to beat the game multiple times to get the "real" ending

>>717640794
>"It's body Type A and B. Both are equal."
>"Then why is Body Type B censored regarding taking off their tops?"
>"Because that would be female nudity."

I can't wait for women and gays to be thrown out of the industry.

>>717637494 (OP)
Walking and talking with characters who are either faster than your slow walk or slower than your run never fails to make me furious.

>>717637494 (OP)
Beating a mini game is required to advance the story
Bonus points if the mini game involves dancing

>>717641985
>>>See all those developed weapons? You better not use well over half of them or you'll turn into a giant used tampon demon!!!

>hentai game
>you play as the raped instead of the rapist

>>717637494 (OP)
>Sir, only the worst game mechanics imaginable are allowed entry.
Don't know if it's a mechanic, but constantly having bosses win in cutscenes after you beat them up or run away is infuriating.

>>717642140
thank you for remain me of ff7 remake, fuck that game

>>717642060
I always like asking fags why should body type be kept, they always fall into a cycle of cognitive dissonance
>uhh why do you even care about that? It's so irrelevant
>no you can't change back to male and female, it's important to give representation to non-binary genders!

>>717638086
Hello deltarune chapter 3
>>717639537
Halo

>>717642183
Why don't they just make the bosses invincible or almost impossible like we used to do?

>>717642318
Or just do what Ninja Theory did and just have bosses that you beat or set them up in cutscenes that you beat later?

That's also a mark against games I like such as Metal Gear Rising with the first boss battle against Sam.

>>717640512
Screen turns red making it impossible to see when you are dying

>have to go into paintings to reach levels
yeah nah im out

>>717642183
that’s basically Xenoblade 2, it got so bad that it make my quit the game and i have 0 wish to continue it.

>>717641936
stop, you're going to get the Bad Ending, Alf!

>>717637494 (OP)
Zelda botw have 2 horrible designs.
First being the shitty weapons that break after a few swings.
Second being a UI that requires you to go through hundreds of items just to use the few items you want to attach to your arrows or weapons

>>717642060
>"These are Body Types A and B."
>"Do you mean "men" and "women"?"
>"No, that's sexist. There's not such thing as sexual dimorphism."
>"Then what makes them different?"
>"You're a bigot."

>>717637494 (OP)
Weapon degradation. It's NEVER used in an interesting way.

>get letter especially marked as important
>Read long ass text
>It's obviously the start of a quest with the text hinting at were I should go and who should I talk to
>Close letter
>Map immediately updated with marker
>Quest log immediately updated with talk to X character
Why the fuck did I read all of that?

>>717640794
I get that at this point the mere mention of the two sexes in character creation would run the risk of a "controversy" or get the company branded as alt-right or whatever which terrifies execs, but "body type a/b" is the worst, most tasteless way to do it. It's literally just newspeak for male/female, dystopian shit.

I can tolerate it when they at least try to be subtle about it, like the Fallout 4 way where you switch between wife and husband in the mirror, fuck even Wizard/Witch in Hogwarts Legacy is better than type a/b shit.

>>717642462
Why is this specifically an issue

>>717642462
fucking hate this shit

>>717642109
I dont even understand why this is/was a common thing in games.

>>717641936
"Complex moral systems" are often a telegraphed black and white decision and path rather than all paths leading to varying and conflicting positive negatove and gray results

>>717637494 (OP)
the option to play as either male or female

Lunar Dragon Song wins this easily with multiple issues.
>Running on the map drains your health
>Cannot target enemies manually, game does it for you so you can't focus fire
>Choose between XP or items after battle
>Your equipment breaks. Constantly.
There are other issues but I think that counts as VIP access.

>>717642672
>he actually reads lore
>doesn't just open and close letters so the game marks it as read and unlocks whatever quest/dialogue option/code it came with

>>717640654
This game was the most obtuse shit ever made.

>>717642736
>I can tolerate it when they at least try to be subtle about it, like the Fallout 4 way where you switch between wife and husband in the mirror, fuck even Wizard/Witch in Hogwarts Legacy is better than type a/b shit.

But that's just the typical male/female split in the character creator but with a twist on it that's makes sense at the end of the day (if you are a male magician, you're a wizard. If you're a female one, your a witch), so it isn't really offensive compared to using actual fucking doublespeak that "Type A/B", where we are supposed to ignore actual sexual anatomy because of the feelings of some trannies and attention-starved basic bitch females that make up a gender to feel special.

If anything, more games should do that or at the very least just keep the basic male/female split without the fucking nonsense Orwellian terminology.

>>717642672
basically, my entire playthrough of Inquisitor martyr
>read the entire thing to understand what is happening
>the mc just parrot the bullets points and move on

>>717642987
Here's a better one: the letter, email, or piece of lore reveals something important, but the character despite you inhabiting the character (who you made sure has read it) doesn't know the information and is surprised by the revelation of the information.

>>717640794
>ENOUGH WITH THE TROONS
hey dont blame us, we just pick female. This is the fault of enbies and gender abolitionists

>>717642183
but you can beat urizen and get a different ending in the first level

>>717642918
Fuck it I forgot a few things
>Have to breathe into the mic to run from fights
>In addition to items breaking, enemies can steal your equipped shit

>>717642162
The MGSV devs should have taken a page out of Splinter Cell Blacklist - if you want players to play more "ghost" or non-lethal, then give them more points into those styles of gameplay instead of giving Venom a giant horn and also covered in blood.

>>717643161
>but you can beat urizen and get a different ending in the first level
Elder runs away after the V fight, and let's not forget beating Vergil only for him to have a "draw" after he teleport slashes after the player beats him as Dante.

>>717637494 (OP)
Gradius checkpoints.

>>717641936
Infamous 1 has the most hilarious choices for this shit.

>>717642901
Anon the joke is the character depicted in the image finds cats to be delicious.

>>717642183
DMC4 is a better example of this since Nero never kills anyone except one of the frogs.

>f3
>"craft"
>0 results
i can't believe it. you cocksuckers actually like this shit?

>>717643594
you can craft a dildo and fuck yourself

>>717642183
I got over this one very easily.
>Wait a minute... I don't give a fuck about cutscenes!

>>717637494 (OP)
Forced stealth section in non stealth game.
Especially when its an rpg and stealth section is balanced around player having stealth build.

>>717643646
>Wait a minute... I don't give a fuck about cutscenes!
"The thing they put into the story? I'll IGNORE THAT!!!!"
There are companies that put actual consideration into that.

>>717643185
>>Have to breathe into the mic to run from fights
God, the DS mic was the fucking worst, this sounds miserable.

>>717643571
They keep having Nero beat bosses to be "fully" beaten later by Dante in DMC4. I wish they didn't do that.

>>717637494 (OP)
>Insert Foreskin into the disk tray to play

>>717637494 (OP)
limited consumables
skill trees

>>717643034
The only offensive part about it now is that you know they're specifically doing it that way to get around the words male and female

>>717637494 (OP)
>invisible enemies you need to use an item to see
>level scaling
>coop games
>input reading
>aim down sights
>ai cheats

>>717637494 (OP)
underweighting
it's nice going fast but my lightweight should not be slower than my midweight

>>717644792
Last Raven has this and it's shit.

>>717640794
mechanics?

>>717645280
Genuine question: how would you define "mechanics"?

>>717645120
it's the worst mechanic in 3.5 but in terms of actual gameplay mechanics scan mode is probably the single worst mechanic and nothing else comes close

>>717637494 (OP)
stun

>>717637494 (OP)
Massive Selection of weapons but you have to manually cycle through them all each time you want to switch.

>>717637494 (OP)
crafting systems

>>717645431
I didn't mind scan mode at the time but retroactively looking at it I probably agree, it didn't add much to the game other than busywork and made energy irrelevant.

>>717645327
The systems that determine how gameplay actually functions in the players hand?
The ability to choose gender is a mechanic
The gender being called "Gender A" is not a mechanic

>>717645327
Not a complete definition, but it has to have some impact for gameplay at least.

For example, in Mount&Blade choosing the gender of the player is a mechanic, but not in most other games as in most games it has no actual impact to the game part of the video game.

>>717645596
>(The ability to choose gender is a mechanic
>The gender being called "Gender A" is not a mechanic
How do you determine choosing a gender is a mechanic but being called "gender A" or "Gender B" is not apart of the mechanic?

>>717645571
honestly it's only problem is tying energy recovery to scan mode because i have to flashbang myself every time i want to recover energy, which is any time i'm not attacking

>>717638208

Is RE4 the only game where an escort quest is basically a huge portion of the game and it isn't hated? Though it helps Ashley stays really close to you, ducks when you aim a gun near her and I think in every fight where you need to hold out, there's a dumpster you can hide her in.

>>717645681
because choosing gender is an active decision made on behalf of the player that will alter gameplay going forward and "gender A" is uh... just words.

>>717637494 (OP)
Encumberance

>>717645656
>For example, in Mount&Blade choosing the gender of the player is a mechanic, but not in most other games as in most games it has no actual impact to the game part of the video game.
Is that not still a mechanical choice to determine the look of your player?

>>717642183
I genuinely don't understand people's ego over this. Who gives a shit, the character in the cutscene isn't me.

>>717642918
>>717643185
It's legitimately shocking how bad Lunar Dragon Song was.
Like if they just made the most cut and paste RPG out of RPGmaker or some shit, it would still be better. They actively made it more shit than a generic RPG.

>>717637494 (OP)
Check the list again... the name's Crafting.

>>717646000
>ego
Nothing to do with that.
It's just dumb writing and creating dissonance between the story and the gameplay.
Why have a boss fight if you can't beat the boss? Just have the character lose in a cutscene and be done with it.

>>717646000

I don't mind it too much, but it would be really nice if the game gives a little "nod" if you won the fight that you were supposed to lose.

>>717645969
No, not just because it's done before starting the actual game but mainly because it doesn't actually affect the game mechanics, as in, anything how a game is played.
It's a cosmetic change, that's how differences like these are classified, cosmetic vs mechanical. If being female made you weaker or your hitbox smaller then the choice would be a part of the game's mechanics, but normally the effect is purely cosmetic in games.

>>717643760
TIME
LOCKED
QUESTS

>>717637494 (OP)
Sup, it's time-gated research/crafting here alongside my buddy, gender-locked classes.

>>717637494 (OP)
difference between difficulties is just values

>Ctrl F "Lootbox"
>0 results
>Ctrl F "Gacha"
>0 results
Is it just so obvious that no one thought it needed to be said or what?

>>717646826
This is acceptable but only if the standard, intended difficulty is the highest one without value fuckery and the rest are lazy easy mode multipliers.

>>717637494 (OP)
Oh I'm sure you can make an exception for me, player character with less features than NPC variants.

>>717645810
Back when the original first came out, it wasnt considered too bad up until you entered that one big open hall area where you couldn't hide her anywhere. People back then famously hated that one specific area.

>>717637494 (OP)
Unlockable/annoying to use sprinting
T. Circle of moon

Smash dead enemies for ammo or item drops

-dead space 2

Know an enemy is dead because they dropped shit

-dead space 2, RE4

press any button to continue

>>717647264
>still no any button
>people still make these games you can't start for some reason then pretend they're real games

>>717638908
pokemon games do this alot

>>717637494 (OP)
loot and steal tables are different for the same enemy

>>717637494 (OP)
Splatoon 2 salmon run only being available for certain days of the week for a few hours at a time. ive never seen another game fuck it up this bad.

>>717646849
Gacha is it’s own genre and lootboxes have largely been relegated to competitive esports crap which i don’t play

So personally i just can’t be assed to whine about it anymore

>>717637494 (OP)
ALRIGHT, THE WORST GAME MECHANIC?!
YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW?!
Okay it's not really a mechanic, but it is a function, or lack of function, within a game, and that's being unable to unbind certain keys.
X4! I'M CALLING YOU THE FUCK OUT! I DON'T CARE HOW COOL YOUR SHIT IS, BUT YOUR CONTROLS ARE AAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

>>717640794
It would be fine if it inferred more model options, but it's just one masculine and feminine shape each exclusively. Wasted potential in not having extras.

>>717647954
We've been making games with rebindable controls for over 30 years now. If the devs aren't starting their projects with the assumption that people will want to rebind them, then they're fucking stupid. It's a SOLVED PROBLEM and fuckers keep UNSOLVING IT.

Short timers for individual sequences like a single level, quest or puzzle are fine to build tension.


Long, overarching timers like Persona, FTL and XCOM have them are absolute cancer.

>>717640654
>>717642990
What game is it?

Inventory where everything is contained in squares, the stack limits are low, and inventory slots take up physical space.
Also your unupgradeable personal inventory is like 16 slots and you automatically pick up any item you get near and also every individual minor variation of an item takes up a different slot and crafting anything has multiple steps which create items that do nothing but craft into other items and take up slots.

Rock-paper-scissors-based combat. I fucking hate Dokapon Kingdom so fucking much its unreal.

>>717637937
Fuck you I almost forgot about this

>>717637494 (OP)
in order to increase your health bar you have to collect hundreds of thousands of randomly dropped health kits from enemies (for a single tick)

FC2 malaria

>>717637494 (OP)
Cycles you need to pay attention to in order to gather materials and hunt.

>>717639137
But double jumps are cool!

>>717641936
Go back to Melmac, space nigger.

Spend 40 minutes in a Nightreign session, then die to the boss in a few minutes and not learn anything

In Battle Brothers, your brothers will never stop asking pay raises, can't chill in the late game.

>>717638086
that's not a game mechanic.

>>717637494 (OP)
>Collect kinstone
>Find kinstone partner to unlock treasure
>Treusure is another kinstone

>>717637494 (OP)
BG3 loot and inventory system

>>717640794
Seething over what the options in the fucking character creation menu are called will forever be the dumbest shit on this entire site.
Doubly so when you put it in a thread about GAMEPLAY MECHANICS

>>717637494 (OP)
RNG based progression.

seriously, what brainrotted boomer though this was a good idea?

>>717651479
Keeps people grindin'. Asian players love that shit.

>>717637494 (OP)
My name's quick time events I should be on that list

>>717652845
It's amazing how QTEs went from kinda cool to god-awful in less than a couple years.

>>717645810
I dropped RE4 over the escort bullshit. Absolutely hated that

>>717646849
I don't consider gacha to be video games

>>717645656
I liked how they did it in Mount & Blade. Though strangely there's a female character on the box, as if that's the default or expected choice. Actually playing as a female is way harder, the other lords don't respect you, you need to accrue more points to progress in the feudal system and overall it's just harder. I think originally they didn't want to have you play as a woman in a feudal knight simulator.

>>717637937
Goddammit. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>717640926
Also Link / XYZ monsters. Synchro I can tolerate (if we assume to ban the most blatantly overpowered ones) but XYZ, Link and Pendulum just straight up ruined the franchise. Needless complexity and power creep that you just can't choose to ignore, it's a shame because I loved yu-gi-oh when it was called the "Fusion deck" and not the "Extra deck", it was even possible to play without it but now the whole game revolves around who can fill up the whole playing field with monsters from their extra deck and win instantly in one turn.