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Anonymous No.717669106 >>717669902 >>717669986 >>717670042 >>717670159 >>717672320 >>717672646 >>717672848 >>717672942 >>717672956 >>717673156 >>717673163 >>717673183 >>717673275 >>717673286 >>717673391 >>717673481 >>717673524 >>717673580 >>717673670 >>717673689 >>717673773 >>717673963 >>717673992 >>717674242 >>717674406 >>717674547 >>717674557 >>717676803 >>717677703 >>717677730 >>717678369 >>717679452 >>717679756 >>717680267 >>717680668 >>717683440
>game set in heavily Catholic Europe
>"le church is... le evil!"
Anonymous No.717669169 >>717677876
the catholic church was a ponzi scheme that tricked the plebs into donating 10% of their income
Anonymous No.717669620
>be one of the most powerful groups in the entire world
>a person with ill intent uses this group to gain power

DURR HURR FUCKING LIBTARDS HATE JESUS!

Yes it’s a played out trope but it makes sense
Anonymous No.717669902
>>717669106 (OP)
Gee, who would've thought an all-powerful administrative class with divine right could have corrupt actors
Anonymous No.717669981
It's a lazy, overdone trope and people have every right to roll their eyes at it after nearly 300 years of LE CHURCH IS BAD
Anonymous No.717669986
>>717669106 (OP)
More like an evil priest not specifically the church. The issue I had the most was it looked like the convent was heavily implied to be the bad guys but felt like a 180 later.
Anonymous No.717670042 >>717672631
>>717669106 (OP)
Don't forget to pay your indulgence fee so you don't go to hell, anon. God wills it!
Anonymous No.717670159 >>717671452 >>717673005 >>717675209 >>717676473 >>717678940 >>717679834
>>717669106 (OP)
Too many anachronisms going down in the one place. Felt incredibly farfetched.
>Ethiopian monk
>gay monks
>lesbian nuns
>slutty nun
>black magic monk
>innkeeper cuckold
>very intelligent gypsy man
>pagan witch
Anonymous No.717671452
>>717670159
This was my exact complaint. It feels like people are quirky just for diversity's sake and characters are so one-dimensional to the point of hilarity. I never heard of this game, and I'm Catholic, so I was pretty hyped going in not knowing anything. Within the first five minutes there's like three instances of blasphemy. Within the first two hours it's painfully obvious the game will be a "normal Christians vs. evil totalitarian Catholic hierarchy", and the fact that you have basically zero opportunity to side with the abbey is atrocious writing. Also:
>half the game takes place in a Benedictine monastery
>ONE (1) monk chants ONE (1) hymn from the Divine Office
>no Crucifixes
>no Mass (mentioned like two times, even more insulting that you're criticized for not attending)
>entire plot revolves around the scandal of the patron Saints of the town being Roman statues, something that has happened in the Church and it wasn't even that big of a deal
Anonymous No.717672254 >>717672631
There was one part where some woman starts bitching about women's rights and i cut it off there.
I was expecting something more than a Redditor's view of church authority.
Anonymous No.717672320 >>717672558 >>717672572 >>717680230
>>717669106 (OP)
Well the catholic church is doing everything backwards while wearing Christianity's veil to fool people so it is indeed evil
>praying to dead people so they can pray to God in your place despite Jesus saying he's the only mediator between men and God
>gatekeeping sainthood despite the Bible saying everyone who is saved is a saint
>works based salvation despite Christianity clearly being faith only, no deeds, lest anyone should boast
>call pope/priest father despite Jesus saying not to call any religious figure on earth father as we have one Father in heaven
>removed the 2nd commandment so they can practice idolatry
and so on and so forth. Just get saved anons. God made it as simple as drinking a glass of water because he loves us

John 3:16
>For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
Anonymous No.717672558
>>717672320
>works based salvation despite Christianity clearly being faith only, no deeds, lest anyone should boast
I'm not Catholic but this is just a big misrepresentation. Catholic and Protestant views on this are basically the same it's so dumb that they still argue about this part. Don't nitpick my lazy explanation but both believe that faith is the only way to be saved however your works show who you are on the inside. Both agree that someone who says they're saved but shamelessly sins is not saved.
Anonymous No.717672572
>>717672320
>protestant cope
The Bible also says not to be gay, but here you are.
Anonymous No.717672603
>play game
>gurl in game
>she’s competent

Completely fabricated
Anonymous No.717672631
>>717670042
>so you don't go to hell
It's been a few centuries. Surely that's enough time to look up the theology.
Hint: there's a distinction between eternal punishment and temporal punishment.
>>717672254
>I was expecting something more than a Redditor's view of church authority.
It was written by Josh Sawyer.
There was a zero percent chance it would cast the Church in a positive light.
Anonymous No.717672646 >>717672769 >>717672926 >>717673329 >>717675537 >>717676593
>>717669106 (OP)
/pol/ has done irreparable damage to the website.
Anonymous No.717672679 >>717672747 >>717672773
This game is kino and you're a brainlet if you disagree.
Anonymous No.717672747 >>717672787
>>717672679
Its not kino at all
>uhh we didnt actually make a real solution so whoever you pick is the actual killer, well done!
Anonymous No.717672769 >>717672912
>>717672646
>game done in a unique setting and style to pander to a specific audience
>completely fucks up basic truths of that setting to squeeze in your own story about how backwards and oppressive Catholics are to normal LGBTQIA+ folx and their comrades
Anonymous No.717672773
>>717672679
nu/v/ hasn't even played Pillars.
Anonymous No.717672787 >>717673030 >>717673116
>>717672747
QRD?
Anonymous No.717672848
>>717669106 (OP)
I enjoyed it
Anonymous No.717672912 >>717673052 >>717673841
>>717672769
>completely fucks up basic truths of that setting
It doesn't, though. It's anachronistic to get more shit in, sure, but that's just generally how stories work. Most stories are made of lots of zany coincidences to try to maximize the most out of the short time they happen in.
You cannot find another game that is as faithful to Bavaria as this. You're letting perfect be the enemy of kino.
Anonymous No.717672926
>>717672646
What's politically incorrect about a video game having bad writing?
Anonymous No.717672942
>>717669106 (OP)
The church was evil. But the game doesn't show Christianity itself as evil.
That said, the game disappointed me. Because it's set in our world and in 16th century, I expected the story to make more sense. And the structure of gameplay, where you basically need to talk to all NPCs after every story event to make sure you're not going to miss anything, is just boring.
Anonymous No.717672956
>>717669106 (OP)
the game doesn't even say the church is evil. did you play it? or are you going to act like there have never been bad actors within the church, or that even if there were bad actors, it's unacceptable to write about them?
Anonymous No.717673005 >>717673193
>>717670159
The actual biggest error in the game is that a small town like Tassing would not have its own print shop, but that doesn’t let you get mad at minorities.
Anonymous No.717673030 >>717673172 >>717673554
>>717672787
There's limited time to investigate. It's impossible to collect all the information to 100% determine a suspect.
But if you pay attention to the motive, means, and alibi of ALL the suspects over a playthrough, you can determine who is 95% likely the perp. The game doesn't come out and say it explicitly.
Anonymous No.717673052 >>717673259 >>717673309 >>717678940
>>717672912
Most stories are shit written by libfags to propagate their parasitic propaganda. This game is shot and you’re a cock sucking faggot if you can’t see otherwise
Anonymous No.717673064
Xtianity is so cringe gay and boring even its parodies are toothless and sleep inducing, yes catholics evil corrupt and le bad, yes pastor billy bob's rural cult is wacky, it's just all sleep inducingly boring, who cares about judaism + a book about some jews bugging jewish priests by claiming to be god until latinx kill them all

even all the JPN fantasy equivalents are boring, I have monotheism fatigue
Anonymous No.717673116
>>717672787
Its a murder mystery game where the murderer in canon is whoever you pick. You can't pick wrong, as the game treats whoever you point to as the culprit as being the correct choice.
Anonymous No.717673132
>catholic
>heavily catholic
>evil
Yes, thats how Abrahmic religions work if you are White.
Anonymous No.717673156 >>717674272
>>717669106 (OP)
it was so bad it spawned protestantism dude
Anonymous No.717673163 >>717673353
>>717669106 (OP)
>invasive foreign death cult trying to destroy native culture evil
Yes.
Anonymous No.717673172 >>717673264 >>717673554
>>717673030
I didn't finish the game, but on the first crime, I thought it had to be the smith guy. The old man. Part of the reason why I ended up getting less interested is because I got the feeling that they were gonna do a thing where every killer gets manipulated by that one priest guy. Felt like that was the twist.

Honestly, I should have finished it, I was actually enjoying it, I just kind of got burnt out a bit. These kinds of "Choose a path and miss out on whatever else happens" can bother my autism a lot.
Anonymous No.717673183
>>717669106 (OP)
>>>/lit/
theres why are failed writers and their products should be posted
Anonymous No.717673193 >>717673313
>>717673005
the actual biggest error is your existence
Anonymous No.717673243 >>717673328 >>717674308
>game set during the Protestant Reformation depicts the Catholic Church in a dubious light
No shit. How could it not? Even if you wanted to make aggressive pro-Catholic propaganda set in this period, you’d still have to depict some people who don’t like the Church, even if they’re wrong.
Anonymous No.717673259
>>717673052
>EVERYTHING IS... LE SHIT!!!!!!!!
Yeah, that's the cop out I thought you'd use. I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.717673264
>>717673172
>I got the feeling that they were gonna do a thing where every killer gets manipulated by that one priest guy.
Heh, close
Anonymous No.717673275 >>717673416 >>717673471
>>717669106 (OP)
Genuinely how do /pol/roaches go through their daily lives without having a meltdown at every random corner and cat walking by?
Read a history book, and make it one that isn't just jerking of adolf for once.
Anonymous No.717673286
>>717669106 (OP)
>create deliberately inflammatory thread for (You)s
I hate that trope
Anonymous No.717673309 >>717677478
>>717673052
>DEM LIBRULS
Go vote for your techbro emperor then lmfao
Anonymous No.717673313 >>717673392
>>717673193
I accept your concession. :)
Anonymous No.717673328
>>717673243
Admittedly, Josh Sawyer obviously set the game in that period precisely for that, but that's what makes the story so engaging, that is a very fascinating time period that has a lot of good clashes that make for a good story, and the Christianity vs Lutherism part is merely one of them that gets explored in the game.
Anonymous No.717673329 >>717673538 >>717673610
>>717672646
>common sense, basic logic, and understanding one’s culture and history has done irreparable damage to the website.
Anonymous No.717673353 >>717673434
>>717673163
indeeed!
Anonymous No.717673391
>>717669106 (OP)
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TruthInTelevision
Anonymous No.717673392
>>717673313
accept my cock *teleports behind you and rapes your ass*
Anonymous No.717673416
>>717673275
>Genuinely how do /pol/roaches go through their daily lives without having a meltdown at every random corner and cat walking by?
They don't go outside or interact with society, they get their ragebait served algorithmically on their phones.
Anonymous No.717673434 >>717673585 >>717673631
>>717673353
>Everyone is white
>One black guy that passes by and is completely respectful
>/v/ still finds a way to cry about it
Anonymous No.717673471 >>717673563
>>717673275
Being proud of eating shit isn't the worst thing about your sad life. It's the part that feels the need to pull others down to your level.
Anonymous No.717673481
>>717669106 (OP)
>using jesus teachings as a means to control people
the church is indeed evil
even to this day
Anonymous No.717673524
>>717669106 (OP)
thats absolutely not what the game was saying nor implying at all. this criticism can actually be levied at a lot of games, but this one is nonsensical and dishonest.
Anonymous No.717673538 >>717673625
>>717673329
/pol/ is nothing but ESL shitskins though
Anonymous No.717673554 >>717673650 >>717673816
>>717673030
>There's limited time to investigate. It's impossible to collect all the information to 100% determine a suspect.
>>717673172
>I just kind of got burnt out a bit. These kinds of "Choose a path and miss out on whatever else happens" can bother my autism a lot.
WHY DO GAMES DO THIS? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.717673563 >>717673694
>>717673471
Did your mom knit that fortune cookie line on your sweater before she died of covid?
Anonymous No.717673580
>>717669106 (OP)
True to life
Anonymous No.717673585
>>717673434
>black guy is respectful
Fiction truly has no limit
Anonymous No.717673610
>>717673329
>common sense, basic logic
>/pol/tards
Anonymous No.717673625
>>717673538
/v/ is nothing but ESL gooners in high school
Anonymous No.717673631
>>717673434
>Hmmm I dislike this game
>Indeed, sir although I contrariwise disagree there are indeed legitimate criticisms to dislike this piece of media albeit I enjoy it
(You): SAAAAAAAAR how can you dislike the redeemed game when everyone is a white brahmin bharat like me?!
Anonymous No.717673650
>>717673554
>It's impossible to collect all the information to 100% determine a suspect.
No it is literally impossible. There is no 100% confirmed to do the crime suspect.
Anonymous No.717673670 >>717673795
>>717669106 (OP)
>game developers making a religious organization evil
well of course they are, it's a day of the week ending in y
Anonymous No.717673689
>>717669106 (OP)
The Catholic church is evil.
Anonymous No.717673694
>>717673563
Epic comeback as always my man. Your gotchas are the pinnacle of dank memes and I cry now.
Anonymous No.717673773
>>717669106 (OP)
Well that's just true
Anonymous No.717673795 >>717673891 >>717673921 >>717673929 >>717673997 >>717676970
>>717673670
>Its okay when crapanese tranime does it but if actually good westkino does it I shit my pants and have never ending decades long tantrum
You weeb gooner tradcath altright groypers never fail to amuse, lmfao
Anonymous No.717673816 >>717673870
>>717673554
The point of the game is to explore the town over multiple generations, not solve a single crime in bumfuck nowhere.
Anonymous No.717673841 >>717673979
>>717672912
Yeah because 50% of Bavarian peasants were socialist pagans and 50% of Benedictine monks didn't even perform the basic duties of Benedictine monks. If your game is a story game built on immersion, having random girlboss moments and shitty writing will break immersion. It's really that simple.
Anonymous No.717673870
>>717673816
Irrelevant.
Anonymous No.717673891
>>717673795
i didn't say western game developers i said game developers, holy shit take your meds
Anonymous No.717673909
*gulp*
Anonymous No.717673921
>>717673795
kindly stop shitposting and find some shred of self-respect you autistic redditor
Anonymous No.717673929
>>717673795
Inshallah the fat zionist christian conservatives put them in camps
Anonymous No.717673963 >>717674067
>>717669106 (OP)
Also contains Niggers and females with liberal opinions. Jewish Slop.
Anonymous No.717673976
>/v/ since "brown" succeeded "tranny", "faggot" etc. as the word you use when you're losing an argument
Anonymous No.717673979 >>717674310
>>717673841
>50% of Bavarian peasants were socialist pagans
No one was socialist, retard. And those peasant """socialist""" revolutions literally happened at that time.
>and 50% of Benedictine monks didn't even perform the basic duties of Benedictine monks
What are you even talking about here? Which monks in the game did not perform their duties? Can you even name two?
Anonymous No.717673992 >>717674129
>>717669106 (OP)
Uhhhhh... bros?..
Anonymous No.717673997
>>717673795
newfag thinks his word soup buzzword newfaggotry is going to cause physical harm to people in real life LMAO
Anonymous No.717674067 >>717674194 >>717674263
>>717673963
>"females" instead of women
Buzzword bingo
Anonymous No.717674129
>>717673992
Take 'gay ass retarded shit' out of your filters then try refreshing
Anonymous No.717674194
>>717674067
thank you for standing up for trans rights when i see someone say female instead of woman i imagine them being a biooical essentialist who thinks only AFAB are women. TRANS WOMEN ARE REAL WOMEN
Anonymous No.717674242 >>717674397 >>717674546 >>717676785
>>717669106 (OP)
The older I get the more I feel like some sort of church/religion is necessary. I can appreciate the church historically doing at least doing something in curbing humanity's inherent vile nature even if it's just a generic carrot and stick approach.
Anonymous No.717674263 >>717674374
>>717674067
You sound like butthurt bitches who get mad that women are referred to as "females" in empirical papers (while men are referred to as "males" but men don't care).
Anonymous No.717674272 >>717674747
>>717673156
It wasn't a "reformation" either, it was a REVOLT. Martin Luther was doing commando raids to rescue nuns from the Inquisition and shit.
Anonymous No.717674308
>>717673243
So, according to the game, burning witches and killing your wives an daughters is cool and based? Because the Protestant reformation started the trend of killing women over nothing.
Anonymous No.717674310 >>717674460
>>717673979
They might as well have had an Eat the Rich banner at the rally with Otto. It's clearly supposed to be a narrative reflection of modern society from the eyes of a socialist.

>Which monks in this game did not perform their duties
One of the twenty monks says the Divine Office in the game and only a few of them have work assigned to them. The monastery has both men and women, something the game mentions as being illicit. At least three religious leave the bounds of the monastery without good reason during the course of Act 1. I'm sure if I read through all ninety of the Rule of Saint Benedict I could nitpick even further.
Anonymous No.717674374 >>717674478
>>717674263
>in empirical papers
This isn't a paper. You aren't a doctor and aren't a soldier enforcing martial law in an occupied city. Speak like a human, not incel autist.
Anonymous No.717674397
>>717674242
>religion
>curbing vile natures
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.717674406
>>717669106 (OP)
The fact that Catholics exist now is sickening. You are saved by Grace alone and faith in Jesus Christ's sacrifice that god raised him from the dead.
Anonymous No.717674460 >>717674601
>>717674310
>It's clearly supposed to be a narrative reflection of modern society from the eyes of a socialist.
Anachronistic nonsense. With the same mindset you would look back to Cathars and Euchites and call them socialist sects.
Anonymous No.717674478
>>717674374
>don’t speak like an incel autist
>on the incel autist board
lol, lmao, rofl even
Anonymous No.717674546 >>717674613 >>717674692 >>717674839 >>717678940
>>717674242
>church/religion is necessary in curbing humanity's inherent vile nature
Anonymous No.717674547
>>717669106 (OP)
Baseder is a turbo cuck and he honestly should kill himself to save the resources for niggers he loves so much
Anonymous No.717674557
>>717669106 (OP)
>Protestants singlehandedly saved the world from being a single globalist monolingually latin speaking rome larpers
Anonymous No.717674601 >>717674675
>>717674460
Yeah if I just spam a word from a thesaurus maybe I'll win online arguments too
Anonymous No.717674608
I enjoyed it well enough up to the protag switch. I didn't really get any church being universally evil agenda, rather it soberly depicted the grievances leading to the German Peasant War.
Anonymous No.717674613
>>717674546
>Kosovo
Lol
Anonymous No.717674675
>>717674601
>anachronism is a "thesaurus word"
Please inform me of your country of origin so I can make the appropriate "X education" post.
Anonymous No.717674692 >>717674830
>>717674546
>Only non homo/tranny nations
Anonymous No.717674747 >>717674951
>>717674272
luther told the peasants to fuck themselves, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_the_Murderous%2C_Thieving_Hordes_of_Peasants?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Anonymous No.717674830 >>717675117 >>717675147
>>717674692
>epically based and redpilled retard claims he'd choose death penalty for homosexuality over running water and electricity in a Western country
Go live a week in the DRP you larping faggot
Anonymous No.717674839 >>717675051
>>717674546
That's more just niggers, sandniggers and pajeets in general though, you could give any moral framework in existence to them and they'd fuck it up.
Anonymous No.717674951
>>717674747
The Frisian revolt was defeated in 1523, same year as that rescue mission.
Anonymous No.717674983
I didnt like the writing that much. Also the game entire point IS the choices you made and in the end you realise you are railroaded and forced.

I was understanding and tried to make peace with her wife and the memory of her son every choice i could and my character still seethed and didnt evolve at all. Its a very shallow game
Anonymous No.717675051 >>717675258 >>717675281
>>717674839
Okay, go on.
Anonymous No.717675117
>>717674830
who are you quoting?
whats a drp? Porea? Pongo?
Anonymous No.717675134
Anonymous No.717675147
>>717674830
*DRC
Anonymous No.717675209 >>717675406
>>717670159
>>gay monks
>>lesbian nuns
>>slutty nun
sounds realistic
only needed a pedo priest
Anonymous No.717675216 >>717675382
Remember to always ask a devs vult Christian tradlarper his opinion on Heaven being majority Black African (the most devout followers of Jesus).
Anonymous No.717675239 >>717675302 >>717675342 >>717675390 >>717675841
You can't be a Christian if you worship Cuckholism or Pootestantism. They are far from the word of God and what Jesus did.

All you need to do is believe in Jesus. follow Him and read The Bible. The fellowship ie the church is the connection between brothers and sisters in faith. Pre-Christianity in the book of Acts they met in people's homes.
Anonymous No.717675258 >>717675380
>>717675051
Now overlay that map with the density of blacks, beans, and black beans. Also economics, education, etc.
Anonymous No.717675281
>>717675051
That's more just niggers, sandniggers and pajeets in general though, you could give any moral framework in existence to them and they'd fuck it up.
Anonymous No.717675302
>>717675239
In the book of Acts they also held Mass, heard Confessions, and recognized Peter as having authority.
Anonymous No.717675342
>>717675239
Evangelism is every bit as carcinogenic as its more structured peers.
Anonymous No.717675362
there is no historical proof about the existence of Jesus
Anonymous No.717675370
shitskins talking about their retarded views on religion might be the most embarrassing threads on this sad corpse of a site
Anonymous No.717675380
>>717675258
>Also economics, education, etc
Why does high religiosity always correlate with low education and poverty, in every country, even adjusting for racial demographics? Even in random places like the Reformed belt in the Netherlands.
Anonymous No.717675382 >>717675529
>>717675216
catholic means universal church, prots and orthodogs are the ones who make ethnic churches, who cares? this is like expecting chritians to cry about greeks not worshipping hercules?
Anonymous No.717675390
>>717675239
>you can’t be Christian if you’re Protestant
>espouses Protestant dogma
Oi I’m laughing
Anonymous No.717675406 >>717675482 >>717675549 >>717675632 >>717675726 >>717675891
>>717675209
Or a subversive Jew, but unfortunately, they didn't put your likeness into the game
Anonymous No.717675482 >>717675726
>>717675406
touched a nerve church boy?
Anonymous No.717675529
>>717675382
American Protestant Evangelical missionaries are going ham in Africa and South America though. Mainly by promising them money from Jezzas.
Anonymous No.717675537 >>717675991 >>717676205
>>717672646
This thread is full of seething tradcath larpers, yeah. It's funny how many of them would essentially be sedevacantists. So much for "tradition" kek.
Anonymous No.717675549 >>717675753 >>717675835
>>717675406
Wait, no jews? I can't decide if that's based or not.
Anonymous No.717675632
>>717675406
Found the diddled guy. You're already celibate and gay, may as well become a priest yourself
Anonymous No.717675726
>>717675406
>>717675482
conspiracyslop would make great games honestly just like san andread had you as a black gangbanger and countless italian mafioso crime simulators exist a classic shylock dajooz would be a great protagonist being something between an evil wizard and vampire cannibal with lizard people and using magic to create golems, the jews chuds imagine would be epic awesome playable vidya protagonists.
Anonymous No.717675753 >>717675912
>>717675549
Of course there's Jews
Anonymous No.717675835
>>717675549
>15th century Bavaria
It would be unrealistic to the point of hilarity if the game had no Jews present.
Anonymous No.717675841 >>717676131
>>717675239
If you’re a christcuck, you’re following Paul and not Jesus. Jesus was a Jew preaching to other Jews, not to filthy Greeks and Italians.
Anonymous No.717675891
>>717675406
>aviation grade deflection
Anonymous No.717675912
>>717675753
Still can't decide. Tangentially, reddit was throwing up quasi-random 110s yesterday.
Anonymous No.717675991
>>717675537
vatican 2 was based for telling cucktholics their pope who they must follow declared they're gonna be just like the protestants they hated so muh and they must love all religions like genuinely its such a christian powerfantasy on the level of all the worlds jews and muslim converting to your particular pastor's church, cromwell couldn't have written a better GODestant victory over chudtholics
Anonymous No.717676131 >>717676687
>>717675841
>Jesus was a jew
Wat. You can't be a jew if you're not following the jewish faith thoughbeit. He denounces the practice and ideas that around being "God's chosen"
Anonymous No.717676205 >>717676426 >>717676528 >>717681259
>>717675537
Pretty much. The catechism itself (if they'd read it) would set them off. In fact, I had one guy tell me it didn't matter what was written in the catechism since it wasn't dogma.
Anonymous No.717676426 >>717676590
>>717676205
>taking anything written by late 20th century liberal pope seriously
Anonymous No.717676473 >>717677174
>>717670159
None of those are anachronisms, you just don't like minorities.
Anonymous No.717676528
>>717676205
why did they randomly go from stoneage romelarping basically islam tier backwards to just being generic christians in post muh vatican2?

genuinely why didn't this shit happen with luthor or any of the other reformers for thousands of years they fold under 0 pressure and stop being chuds?
Anonymous No.717676590 >>717676718
>>717676426
That section of the catechism was first laid out here. You either accept it or you're going against the Church.
Anonymous No.717676593
>>717672646
No shit, this place has been a shithole for a decade.
We are so far removed from our original culture and history. Which is ironic given the thread.
Anonymous No.717676687 >>717676827
>>717676131
“Jewish faith” encompasses a whole laundry list of different sects and some of those sects even used to war with each other. Early christfags were one of those Second Temple period Jewish sects.
Anonymous No.717676718 >>717676809
>>717676590
>taking mid late century liberal pope's politiking seriously
Anonymous No.717676785
>>717674242
>I can appreciate the church historically doing at least doing something in curbing humanity's inherent vile nature
Donation of Constantine Liber Gomorrhianus Pius XII 300 years of crusades Boniface VIII The Grand Imposture Witch Hunts Hernán Cortés Torquemada Burning of Joan of Arc Indulgence Jan Hus John Wycliffe Joust of Whores Benedict IX Exile of Dante Alighieri Mass Kidnapping of spanish babies Leo Taxil The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara Winnie the Pooh The Cholula Massacre Cosa Nostra Istituto per le Opere Religiose (IOR) Bernardino Nogara Magdalene Houses Mother Teresa Congregatio de Propaganda Fide Gregory I Humiliation of Canossa Pseudo-Isidore Sicilian Vespers Ignatius of Loyola Counter-Reformation Native American Holocaust Thirty Years' War Jurisdictional Immunity of the Holy See in proceedings relating to sexual
abuses by members of the clergy before the ECtHR Simony Index Librorum Prohibitorum Bernand Francis Law John Ray Report
Anonymous No.717676803
>>717669106 (OP)
Typical jewish propaganda

Rabbis today still get away with child rape
Anonymous No.717676809 >>717676958
>>717676718
So you are a sedevecantist, after all.
Anonymous No.717676827
>>717676687
Jesus told them to stop being Jewish and to instead worship God over their wacky tradition and rules.
Anonymous No.717676883 >>717676938
>Follow the pope religion
>"followers" who reject the pope and everything he orders
Actually why not just be a protestant, or a muslim or a LARPagan or literally anything other than following the popes orders religion if you won't follow them?
Anonymous No.717676938
>>717676883
Because they're not actually faithful in anything. They just want to be racist.
Anonymous No.717676958 >>717677013 >>717677159 >>717677232 >>717677391
>>717676809
I'm not even religious. The pope is just some political figurehead. He's not a scion of God or morality. Anything written in the past few centuries will have been written with political bent for the sake amd ease or reach
Anonymous No.717676970
>>717673795
None of these words are in the bible
Anonymous No.717677013
>>717676958
sake and ease of mass appeal*
Anonymous No.717677159 >>717677232 >>717677298 >>717677319
>>717676958
catholics have to believe the pope is literally god in human incarnation or burn in hell forever btw
Anonymous No.717677174
>>717676473
They are all anachronisms if seen all at once in some tiny little village. You just don't like facts.
Anonymous No.717677232
>>717676958
Matt. 16:18-19
>>717677159
Not true in the least.
Anonymous No.717677298
>>717677159
You're pants on head retarded
Anonymous No.717677319
>>717677159
I've listened to shitlibs describe religions and they always distort things to make their positions look better. I'm gonna have pull a reddit and demand a souce for all your claims
Anonymous No.717677391 >>717677909
>>717676958
>Anything written in the past few centuries will have been written with political bent for the sake amd ease or reach
>past few centuries
As opposed to all the other centuries when the Catholic Church was poor, humble and totally not meddling in politics in any way?
Anonymous No.717677478
>>717673309
>lmfao
don't pretend you aren't constantly seething about it
Anonymous No.717677703 >>717678136
>>717669106 (OP)
Catholicism is evil
Anonymous No.717677730
>>717669106 (OP)
>>"le church is... le evil!"
>Expecting any better from christian hating leftists
Why does it happen every single time?
Anonymous No.717677876 >>717679356 >>717679361 >>717681525
>>717669169
and also probably prevented our extinction as a species. can you imagine trying to reign people in before major civilizations were around?
Anonymous No.717677906
Not a christian but I hate "church le bad" themes in media because you know they would not do the same shit with Islam or Judaism, and there really no other themes to tackle in your media they act like there has been no other institution as corrupt as the catholic church in the middle ages.
Anonymous No.717677909
>>717677391
Last few centuries was when liberal ideologies began to spread among the masses thanks to the enlightenment period. Blank slate theory changed the a lot of people viewed for better or worse. [Current Year] it's the root cause of naivete with regards to genetics and cultural realities. Ironically people were better judges when they were "dumb and uneducated" because instincts and pattern recognition end up being a lot more accurate than ideological blinders
Anonymous No.717678136 >>717678995
>>717677703
Not anymore than Islam or Judaism so where are the anti rabbi games?
Anonymous No.717678274 >>717679292
>tradcath
Reminder that every time you see this word, it's a redditfag terrified that "christofascism" is around the corner.
Anonymous No.717678369
>>717669106 (OP)
>Believe in a flying spaghetti monster or we'll behead you
>Give us all your money or else
It is evil, yes.
Anonymous No.717678768
Replies to this thread prove that 4chan is majority Redditors now
Anonymous No.717678784 >>717678943 >>717679030 >>717679772 >>717681936 >>717683172
why are so many American prots furiously zionist when pic related exists?
Anonymous No.717678940
>>717673052
>Muh libs
Back to your containment board migger
>>717670159
Wait until this faggot opens a history textbook
>>717674546
>Poor people are poor and dumb
The Abrahamic cries out in pain as he strikes you
Anonymous No.717678943
>>717678784
Because Luther wasn't speaking ex cathedra?
Anonymous No.717678995
>>717678136
I agree with you.
Anonymous No.717679030 >>717679153 >>717680484
>>717678784
Because the existence of that thing can't do anything when your religion by its own admission came from jews and all its most important historical figures were jews.
I'm pretty sure the text itself isn't some medieval Mein Kampf calling for physical eradication of jews as an ethnic group, there's only usual bipolar screeching about how jews are parcticing the religion wrong and should convert to practice it right.
Christianity and Judaism are codependent, existential hostility is impossible between them.
Anonymous No.717679153 >>717679476
>>717679030
Well Jews are supposed to convent in the end times. Christians issue with Jews and Judaism is that they are not Christians.
Anonymous No.717679292
>>717678274
Since the spiritual patrimony common to Christians and Jews is so great, this sacred synod wants to foster and recommend that mutual understanding and respect which is the fruit, above all, of biblical and theological studies as well as of fraternal dialogues." (Nostra Aetate, §4)
The Church, therefore, repudiates all persecutions against any man. Moreover, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel’s spiritual love, she deplores all hatreds, persecutions, displays of antisemitism directed against Jews at any time and by anyone." (Nostra Aetate, §4)

"The discrimination which is so widespread in the world today, based on race, origin, color, culture, sex, and religion, is a grave injustice and must be eradicated." Redemptor Hominis, 1979

"There are some who consider themselves less human when they are deprived of the possibility of freely exercising their responsibility, and there are others who think they are more human when they impose their will on others." Populorum Progressio, 1967

"Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the state, or a particular form of state, or the depositories of power... divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God." Mit Brennender Sorge, 1937

There is no place in Christianity for recourse to racism. Nations must work together for a future founded not on race or blood, but on mutual respect and the recognition of human dignity.” Pope Pius XII, 1946
Racism is one of the most serious threats to human dignity. It contradicts the Gospel and must be eradicated from our hearts and from our societies.” Evangelii Nuntiandi, 1975

Racism is a sin that constitutes a serious offense against God. Every form of racism leads to the destruction of society and contradicts the very essence of human brotherhood.” JPII, 1989
Anonymous No.717679356
>>717677876
europe existed long before your jewish mind virus
Anonymous No.717679361
>>717677876
Cucked post.
Anonymous No.717679452 >>717679793 >>717680080 >>717683385
>>717669106 (OP)
>"le church is... le evil!"
always was but don't confuse God or religion with the church
Anonymous No.717679476 >>717679682
>>717679153
>Well Jews are supposed to convent in the end times
If that's the case, then I'm sure those American Christians just trust the plan and don't mind waiting two more millennia for those jews in Israel to convert.
Anonymous No.717679682
>>717679476
Well thats the plan they went to kick off the end of the world with the third temple.
Anonymous No.717679756
>>717669106 (OP)
>noo don't bully the poor church!!
Anonymous No.717679772 >>717679965
>>717678784
even a couple of decades ago there were a lot of people who participated in church yet didn't read the text/bible except for excerpts; and I doubt even a handful of a percentage of those people were delving in to their church's founder's writings.
Anonymous No.717679793 >>717679906
>>717679452
That idol and Christian monotheistic deity referred as "Yahweh" in the modern era is the same character.

Also it's called Baal (which just means "Lord" in semitic languages such as Aramaic or Phoenician), not Moloch. Moloch is a name of a human sacrifice ritual. The core myth of Christianity itself is a story about how Baal, oops, Yahweh, sacrifices his own son to himself, and how reverence of that act lifts some dire metaphysical burden from Christians, a burden that definitely has nothing to do with sacrificing your own son to Baal. The problem is that this story almost looks like a mockery of a deity, which should explain why Judaism, a more traditional derivative of the same Phoenician religion, is pissed off about Christianity.
Anonymous No.717679834
>>717670159
tell me more about the slutty nuns
Anonymous No.717679906 >>717680204
>>717679793
>Christian monotheistic deity referred as "Yahweh" in the modern era is the same character
Nuh uhh
Anonymous No.717679965 >>717681001
>>717679772
protestantism wasn't "founded" by luther, thoughbeit. it'd make more sense for the average evangelical to read whitefield
Anonymous No.717680080
>>717679452
>don't confuse God or religion with the church
That's on you, zombie jew fucker. Be better.
Anonymous No.717680204 >>717680586
>>717679906
How can you be sure. You don't even know much about Phoenician religion that worshiped Baal.
The only statement connecting those two (by telling that they're not the same character, how can that be) is the abrahamic religious scripture, the same account that is full of jewish wizards parting the sea, copying fish or rising from the dead. If you don't believe that those jewish wizards were real, then there's no point believing anything else written there. And after you purge your information from abrahamic religuious accounts about jewish wizards, extrapolation of remaining info returns very, very curious results.
Anonymous No.717680230 >>717680558
>>717672320
Not catholic, agree with all but point 3. You need both.

"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
James 2:26 KJV
Anonymous No.717680267
>>717669106 (OP)
Yeah it's fucking boring and jewish as fuck.
Anonymous No.717680484 >>717680597 >>717681980 >>717683774
>>717679030
Christianity is a repudiation of judaism if the actions Jesus Christ are any indication
Anonymous No.717680558 >>717680724
>>717680230
read the whole context - James is talking about being justified in front of men who cannot see into one's soul and have to rely on one's deeds to tell whether the person is saved. Otherwise the following verses would make no sense whatsoever

Ephesians 2
>8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Romans 11
>5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Anonymous No.717680586
>>717680204
Gnostic's admit that Yahweh was evil no.
Anonymous No.717680597 >>717680959
>>717680484
How could it be a repudiation of a religion that didn't even come to exist until centuries after the events of the gospels?
Anonymous No.717680668
>>717669106 (OP)
I hate when games are too realistic too
Anonymous No.717680724 >>717681345
>>717680558
>saul
lol
Anonymous No.717680959 >>717681058
>>717680597
It came into existence 1 and a half millenia BC thoughbeit
Anonymous No.717681001
>>717679965
fair enough, but he's a pretty significant figure in the branch if I remember correctly.
Anonymous No.717681058 >>717681191
>>717680959
Rabbinical Judaism comes later.
Anonymous No.717681191
>>717681058
And they're following wacky rules and beliefs that Jesus critized
Anonymous No.717681259 >>717681808
>>717676205
Nothing from the 20th century is legitimate.
Anonymous No.717681345
>>717680724
>most of the New Testament is le wrong
please...
Anonymous No.717681525 >>717681724
>>717677876
>there were no major civilizations before christendom
partially responsible for the fall of Rome, your gay religion did not benefit people in any way. They withheld knowledge from people, they didn't record it to share it.
Anonymous No.717681724
>>717681525
Rome would have fallen without the Christians anyway because it became corrupt and gay. There was basically no economy and way too many literal welfare slaves
Anonymous No.717681808
>>717681259
Take this from the 16th, then.
>What seems to me white, I will believe black if the hierarchical Church so defines.
>The superior is to be obeyed not because he is prudent, or good, or qualified by any other gift of God, but because he holds the place and the authority of God, as Eternal Truth has said: He who hears you, hears me; and he who rejects you, rejects me [Luke 10:16]. Nor on the contrary, should he lack prudence, is he to be the less obeyed in that in which he is superior, since he represents Him who is infallible wisdom, and who will supply what is wanting in His minister, nor, should he lack goodness or other desirable qualities, since Christ our Lord, having said, the scribes and the Pharisees sit on the chair of Moses, adds, therefore, whatever they shall tell you, observe and do: but do not act according to their works [Matt. 23:2-3]
>He who aims at making an entire and perfect oblation of himself, in addition to his will, must offer his understanding, which is a further and the highest degree of obedience. He must not only will, but he must think the same as the superior, submitting his own judgment to that of the superior, so far as a devout will can bend the understanding.
Anonymous No.717681936
>>717678784
Because American rapture theology needs Israel to exist for the end times to happen, pretty simple
Anonymous No.717681980 >>717682225
>>717680484
>Christianity is a repudiation of judaism
>One religion exists
>An event happens within a religion
>Now there are two religions
It's not called "repudiation", it's called "schism". This separation is functionally identical to a separation between Catholicism and Protestantism, for example. Christianity and Judaism can be called two denominations of the same nameless religion just as there are two denoimnations of Christianity. Latter being used but not former is completely arbitrary and based on biases within the religion. When humanity will finally be able to create secular historiography and secular culturography without any religious biases leaking into them, they will count as one religion.
Anonymous No.717682225 >>717682526
>>717681980
The literal founding of Christianity according to Christians is rejection of and repudiation of the practices and beliefs of the isrealites by the Christ himself. He told them to stop being being like them because that is not what God himself wanted.
Anonymous No.717682439 >>717682969
>all this shitposting
Gameplay tho?
Anonymous No.717682526 >>717682727 >>717683069
>>717682225
>Christians is rejection of and repudiation of the practices
>practices
If you compare Catholic and Protestant practices, they will be drastically different. Some subsets of Protestantism seem to be closer to Islam than to Catholicism. This doesn't change those two religions sharing
>Deity
>Base main scripture
>Creation myth
Which just so happens to be true for Christianity and Judaism.
Anonymous No.717682727 >>717682790
>>717682526
the deity is not the same since judaism claims Jesus Christ was a false prophet and is in hell
Anonymous No.717682790 >>717683209
>>717682727
Are you pretending to be retarded?
Anonymous No.717682969
>>717682439
The gameplay is the story. It's a point and click detective game where no matter who you choose they're canonically guilty and no matter what you do the same outcomes happen
Anonymous No.717683069 >>717683376
>>717682526
They're not worshiping the same diety of the diety is saying something significantly different to either group. The Jews do not acknowledge Christ or the God that made him. One of tbe main criticisms Christ against the isrealites in fact is that they were worshipping their own self-serving doctrines over the actual word of god himself.
Catholcism and Protestanticm both believe in Christ but have different religious and political evaluations of those beliefs.
Anonymous No.717683172
>>717678784
because american prots are not lutheran nor do they have much of a connection with lutheranism at all.
Anonymous No.717683209
>>717682790
Jesus declared himself to be God and equal to him thoughbeit. He is known as the son of God because he he was born from God himself
Anonymous No.717683376 >>717683604
>>717683069
>They're not worshiping the same diety
Did you imply that jews do not worship old testament God. Or that Christians do not worship old testemtnt God.
They both by their own admission do and acknowledge that the other side worships him too. The only people saying otherwise are buttfucking hillbillies from christian identity discords who believe that whypipo wuz real joos n shiet (and who are 99% brown).
Anonymous No.717683385
>>717679452
>putting something on display = outright endorsement
its so fucking tiresome to be around you guys.
Anonymous No.717683440
>>717669106 (OP)
Narcissistic sociopathic freaks used religion as a way to exert authority over other people the same way modern super-corporations do now. It'd be nice if these stories targeted the root of the cause more often. NPD. They don't care what kind of social structure they have to navigate to attain power as long as they can navigate it.
Anonymous No.717683604 >>717683952
>>717683376
Christians Worship God and Jesus who is also God. The jews don't.
The judeo-christian nonsense and the equivalencies was the result of Jews using verbal trickery to worm their way into the Christian Church and gain political influence. There is actuall a term for them but it escapes me at the moment
Anonymous No.717683774 >>717684014
>>717680484
Jesus was a JEW. It was Cephas/Peter who created Christianity.
Anonymous No.717683952
>>717683604
>Christians Worship God and Jesus who is also God
Christianity by its own admission is a monotheistic religion. Therefore their belief is that old testament God is simultaneously Jesus.
There's also that schizophrenia about trinity (which mainly exist because monotheism and 3 digit IQ population are not compatible), but it keeps insisting on being a monotheistic religion. Which in turn just means reverence of the same deity, but with an additional twist.

>Jews using verbal trickery to worm their way into the Christian Church and gain political influence
Why would they "worm" their way, if it's one of their religions? A semitic religion. Original christians were racial semites. They look more organic in Christian positions than white people. They are free to walk in, and Christian doctrine intensely admires any racial jews converting to Christianity.
Anonymous No.717684014
>>717683774
He woman he born to an isrealite, but he was not Jewish because he was also god and he told he told people to stop being dirty Jews.