Thread 717669876

And now there is only silence.

>>717669876 (OP)
vote with your wallet. stop using Visa and Mastercard.

oh wait, they got you by the balls HAHAHA

>>717669876 (OP)
>Silence
No son.
It's just YT, UK, AUS, EU and a bunch of feminazis trying to silence (Us).

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/guaranteeing-fair-banking-for-all-americans/

It's over, we've won

>>717670206
Say thank you, leftists

>>717669876 (OP)
>years of v-tards calling every game slop
>now they are upset that their literal slop games got cancelled
Maybe get a decent taste in vidya and this wouldn't be an issue :^)

Ameri-bros, UK, EU, AUS are not are our allies, do not be fooled by their propaganda, these nations are our enemies.

>>717670206
I thought chuds believed in the free market

>>717670471
Is a monopoly a free market?

>>717670206
Would this also effect censorship or just debanking though?

>>717670206
that excludes card companies

https://reclaimthenet.org/trump-order-banks-political-debanking-excludes-payment-processors

>>717670206
Wait so... Mastercard has to scrap their shitty Rule 5.12.7 which they've been citing for the Steam/Itch purges?

>>717669876 (OP)
You're permanently on /v/ you think that exposure here is the only metric.
Because you haven't seen a thread all day you think it's dead?

>>717670206
Thank you Mr President for saving video games from the pride parade pushing payment processors

>>717670206
>banking regulator
Unfortunately irrelevant to us.

>>717670275
Literally apples to oranges, irrelevant topic altogether, ESL pepe fag.

>>717670206
You know what federal banking regulators do? Regulate banks. You know what Visa and MasterCard aren't? Banks.

What are they gonna do, take away MasterCard's banking license?

>>717671636
>It applies only to banks, savings associations, credit unions, and other outfits directly supervised by federal banking regulators or the SBA.
>That means Visa and Mastercard, the twin tollbooth operators of the global payments highway, are untouched.
Oh come the fuck on!

>>717670206
The Steam rule 15 needs to be removed for this to have an affect, no?

>>717670471
a payment processor telling me what I cant buy is antithetical to a free market

>>717672107
We'll see in 180 days if that will be the case, then

>>717670206
Hang on, just need to ask 10,000 liberal judges if this is ok. Don't worry, I'm sure none of them are feminists!

>>717672109
no it's not. payment processors should be able to offer or refuse service to whomever they please.
but in a free market, there should be a wide selection of payment processors and you should be able to make your own easily.
ask yourself why that isn't the case.

>>717671873
>>717671903
I thought Visa/MC have to enact their will through banks.

>>717672283
>ask yourself why that isn't the case.
Because trying to connect to millions of storefronts is actually quite hard work.

>>717671636
Is there anything we can do to pass regulation that targets them?

>>717673071
There's still the Fair Access to Banking Act, but you need to tell others to tell their (and your) representative to strengthen the section on payment card networks.

>>717672245
180 days is a shit ton of time. If the rule is not removed or the adult games on itch are not put back in soon enough is safe to assume the censorship is still going and the fight must continue.

>>717672249
The narrative is that conservative judges are the source of this evil, if a libjudge opposes this it's over

>>717670252
Thank you leftists

>>717671636
>I can't read and can only get info from dubious 'experts' from niche news-sources
Butt-hurt people on pro-left niche websites can't give a single win to Trump, so they have make up lies without even reading the act itself or not even contacting the experts or even government organizations that would responsible for interpreting the executive order

>>717669876 (OP)
For the nth time, just use crypto.
Steam doesn't allow it? Just pirate until they do.
They'll start using it sooner rather than later because fiat is imploding, banks are moving into crypto, and stablecoins are tied to fiat anyway.
The whole idea of having an intermediary for your transactions is incredibly jewish, lets hope Trump's reforms and inflation convince more people to abandon ((((banks)))).

>>717674604
>fiat is imploding

>>717674809
Price of eggs

>>717672109
That could almost make sense in theory. In reality corpos telling you what to do is the essence of "free market" and anyone that promotes that crap believes so.

>>717671873
>you know what Visa and MasterCard aren't? Banks.

They are legally bank-equivalents and they're specifically mentioned by name in the text of the executive order so yes, this in fact does apply to them.

>>717670252
Go fuck yourself.

>>717670471

"Free market" only exists when a strong government forces it to exist with threats of violence. Free market left on its own stays free for about half a day and then it becomes a monopoly.

>>717669985
>create your own bank
>create your own money

how about
>create your own gun
>create your own ammo

>>717674834
I don't buy those
Explain further in at least two sentences but no more than twenty

>>717673925
>narrative
You mean the truth? All this shit started with the porn bans in red states

>>717674934
>They are legally bank-equivalents
They are not.

>they're specifically mentioned by name in the text of the executive order
They are not. You did not read it.

>>717675023
The EO is a direct response to “create your own ‘X’ only you can’t because payment processors denied you because of your political beliefs”.

>>717671550
I believe it specifically says "debanking"

>>717675007
you're welcome, tranny <3

>>717675043
>at least two sentences
It can be summarized in less than that, one word even: inflation.
Your time is stolen from you every month and every year. Depreciation erodes the purchasing power of your boomer notes.
USD is also the global reserve currency, but that's constantly undermined by our enemies (like BRICS) trading in local currencies.
It's just getting worse as more people understand that the dollar means nothing and they're not using a currency backed by people they hate.
The price of eggs was just an example, but it's come to be a symbol of just how awful things have gotten.

>>717675694
So what you're saying is, I should use my savings to get my house reno's done sooner rather than later
Got it I'm pretty sure

>>717674205
People only positively perceive information that affirm/validate their cognitive biases

>>717670471
The current situation is not a free market. A handful of pseudo monopolies colluding with each other to force behavior while lobbying against any new competitors being allowed to enter the play is the exact opposite of a free market, but I wouldn't expect an underage leftoid to understand that.

>>717675508
Wait, you're not the tranny?

>>717674934
Why are you wasting your time with a retard who very obviously didn't read the EO?

>>717671550
It will effect it only by association - everything moves in trends in the government and this moves the tend more towards free speech.
It's about debanking specifically though, so you'll still have a split in the conservative factions - some of them think that porn should be banned, some of them think we need absolute free speech.
Basically this is a minor win for the free speech and 2nd amendment crowds, but if there's not any action afterwards nothing will happen. It shows Trump's position on said issues - he hasn't publicly spoken on the porn bans and he's likely leaving it up to the states to decide. Federal protections for porn won't come from this, they would only come from a broader movement and not the "state's rights" movement that Trump has been pushing.

>>717676094
Why not simply do a Luigi Mansion on the executive heads? That will send a message.

>>717676010
>So what you're saying is, I should use my savings to get my house reno's done sooner rather than later
That's what fiat currency is trying to get you to do, yes: live fast paced, don't save, constantly spend for immediate gratification.
You could do that right now but you shouldn't need to. You could put your money into assets and then retain its value, or even increase it over time, far beyond the shitty interest rates (((banks))) give you.

>>717676349
Wait wait wait, now you're confusing me even more
So is it a bad idea for an individual to hold onto and build fiat savings at this juncture, or a good idea? Am I better off turning it into material things, or should I keep number in account go bigger make brain feel good?

>>717674834
That's due to bird flu. Please stop using eggs as proof of inflation that yes is happening but not the cause of ten dollar eggs

>>717676237
And a good morning to you too, special agent.

>>717676237
That will surely make us look good and help our cause

>>717676671
>So is it a bad idea for an individual to hold onto and build fiat savings at this juncture, or a good idea?
>or should I keep number in account go bigger make brain feel good?
It's an incredibly bad idea because your USD is constantly losing value.
Use this calculator if you don't understand it.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
A $60.00 video game in 2015 would be $81.66 now. Over 10 years, you've lost $21. The more you accumulate and the more you save, the more you would've lost.
Now imagine saving your whole life, only to realize you've lost even more than just $21.
And prices are rising all the time, month to month.
Start preserving your wealth in assets. It's what all the wealthy people do and it even saves them on tax. BTC is a decent store of value, you could also buy precious metals like gold or silver.
If you keep money in the bank you're being reckless.

>>717670206
so does this mean incest porn is allowed again?

>>717670206
Lmao do you retards actually believe they'll use this to protect porn games? Trump's the guy that put Russ Vought into power, the guy who wants to ban porn completely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y

>>717677191
>>717676671
Don't get scammed by the crypto retard. Bitcoin isn't a store of value, it's a highly volatile speculative asset with the sole purpose to sell it to greater fools later down the road. Invest in proper companies who actually have revenue and value outside of just people pumping a ponzi scheme. If you don't want to think much about it, just put most of your money in the S&P 500 or a similar broad market ETF.

>>717677191
OK thank you, I appreciate your insights god bless
Now I have to consider what to do and start thinking again (i hate doing that)

>>717677521
Doesn't matter what you think or what you want it to mean, it clearly states that reputational risk is no longer something payment processors can cite to deny service. Now say "thank you Mr. President" and move on with your life.

>>717670374
Hello Ivan

>>717669876 (OP)
This is the SKG all over again. What is the argument to let Visa/Mastercard do this? Something hurt your fee fees and you want it gone? Remember, kids: it's EASY to defend something you already agree with.

>>717677523
>it's a highly volatile speculative asset with the sole purpose to sell it to greater fools later down the road.
You're describing fiat. BTC has been more stable than USD the past few years, and it has constantly increased in value rather than decreased. If you bought 1 BTC in 2013 for $20, you would've been able to sell it now for $116,000 now. "Volatility" is used by tards like you to convince people not to invest in assets.
>If you don't want to think much about it, just put most of your money in the S&P 500 or a similar broad market ETF.
LOL, the S&P 500 is even more volatile. Look at UNH right now. I'm also invested in it, but if you think it's better than bitcoin by any stretch of the imagination you clearly don't have much invested in it.

>>717670471
Banks are not part of the free market. They receive benefits, tax payer money and are paid out when they lose money. Why should they have a right to deny you service when you dont have a right to stop giving them money?
>>717670252
If you actually read it you would have seen that this happened because of events related to the january 6th capitol riots

>>717678085
>Banks are not part of the free market. They receive benefits, tax payer money and are paid out when they lose money. Why should they have a right to deny you service when you dont have a right to stop giving them money?
I wish people understood finances better in general. Why do they think banks play fast and loose with money? Because the money in question is not actually theirs AND they know they'll get bailed.

>>717670206
Is that why the topic got quiet here? All the paid trannies that have been telling us Collectove Shout is a chud organization (lol) suddenly can't use the issue to shill their politics?

>>717674205
Anon, you don't need to be a leftie to see that calling this a "win" is rushing. For this to be a win Steam and Itch NEEDS to remove the new censorship rules. And Visa and MasterCard need to remove their shitty rules too. The removed games need to be reinstated too. Relaxing just yet is not a good idea.

>>717678083
>If you bought 1 BTC in 2013 for $20, you would've been able to sell it now for $116,000 now
This is such a stupid argument. You can say that about literally any asset that has gone up massively in the past and it has zero affect on whether or not it's a smart investment choice right now. Buying Bitcoin right now is like buying Palantir or Telsa right now. Obviously people who got in early made millions of $, but if you aren't one of them, why the fuck should you become exit liquidity now for those who did?

>but if you think it's better than bitcoin by any stretch of the imagination you clearly don't have much invested in it.
The S&P500 is not more volatile than Bitcoin you idiot, no idea how you could possibly get that idea. Bitcoin is a high risk high reward asset (not so high reward anymore but still) whereis investing in the S&P500 is one of the safest most common investment strategies in the world and we have over a century of historic data of it being a safe asset that always goes up long term.

>>717670206
Wtf I love Trump no-
>>717671636
nevermind

>>717678004
>What is the argument to let Visa/Mastercard do this?
Because they can get away with it, and there's nothing our slave cattle society can do to stop them

>>717678472
They can't possibly admit that Trump did something good. Anything Trump does must be bad, even when he directly solves a problem they claim they cared about.

>>717678004
I'm sure retards can come up with some.

>>717671704
Well yeah, here people only talk about something if it's relevant.

>>717670206
WELL PLAYED, MR. PRESIDENT

>>717678085
>Banks are not part of the free market. They receive benefits, tax payer money and are paid out when they lose money. Why should they have a right to deny you service when you dont have a right to stop giving them money?
Because you're a slave.

>>717678683
read
>>717674205
Why all this dishonesty and doomposting even when something good actually happened?

>>717678942
You think getting Digital ID is a win? They'll sell your ID data to crooks on the internet for some pocket change, that's how the scammers have been doing it for some time now, and it'll only get worse.

>>717679107
What are you talking about? The executive order is forcing payment processors and banks to not decline service based on stupid reasons like perceived reputation risk and political disagreements. What does that have to do with digital ID?

>>717678596
>You can say that about literally any asset that has gone up massively in the past and it has zero affect on whether or not it's a smart investment choice right now.
Is it so surprising that to make a profit on an asset or a stock you have to be the one that sees the value in it before anyone else does? This is the whole idea behind buying low and selling high.
>Buying Bitcoin right now is like buying Palantir or Telsa right now. Obviously people who got in early made millions of $, but if you aren't one of them, why the fuck should you become exit liquidity now for those who did?
Because the value of 1 BTC is constantly rising due to whales which means that the value of SATs is also rising. If 1 BTC triples in value in the coming years, your $1000 spent invested in SATs will become $3000. These major investment firms are closing the door on you and you can't see it. Most people can't. They think they were too late to BTC because they can't accumulate one anymore. Newsflash retard, why the fuck do you think 1 BTC become unavailable to you so quickly?
>The S&P500 is not more volatile than Bitcoin you idiot, no idea how you could possibly get that idea.
From viewing stocks and actually investing in them? If you bought UNH at $610 last year, you would be down $350, or 57.49%. Don't pretend stocks aren't as volatile, they can be.
>whereis investing in the S&P500 is one of the safest most common investment strategies in the world and we have over a century of historic data of it being a safe asset that always goes up long term.
KEK, did you not live through the 2008 financial crisis?

>>717679346
Digital IDs are coming and this was one step closer to Digital IDs

>>717679346
>payment processors
I don't think the eo mentions them specifically