ITT: Games that received a patch or mod taking it from a 6/10 to a 9/10.
I'll start, Doom: The Dark Ages. Update 2 fixes everything.

Not everything. The dragon and mech segments still suck, and there's still no reason to switch weapons.

they patched out gay tracing?

>>717693069
Thankfully they kept that in to keep destitute pclets out

>>717693069
yes, it's now called based tracing

they completely overhauled the gameplay so its no longer a Simon Says Parryslop?

this is a thread made by marketing. im not downloading the game again

>>717693157
yes, gun fu is better now.

Lol lll take your word for it OP.
Heh heh heh.

>>717693204
Hugo Martin browses /v/

>>717692824 (OP)
The slowmo change is a great change, it should've been that way from the start. Now they just gotta let me fast forward the damn dragon sections.
>>717693069
Ray tracing is a seven year old tech at this point. This game runs at 1080p with an rtx2060 which is a six year old entry level 1080p GPU. If ray tracing is stopping you from playing this game, you likely have a prehistoric shitbox from the Obama administration.

>>717693210
you sound like a disengenious marketer.

>>717693417
this is not true

>>717692824 (OP)
Won't fix the mandatory turret sections.

>>717692824 (OP)
dogshit slop that don't deserve to be played
Play literally anything else instead

>>717693497
The turret sections are like 3 minutes of the game total. What is so bad about them?
I think TDA is shit but this complain was always so weird. A boring bad level like one of the Ctulhu shit levels is 100x worse than a turret section because it takes 100x longer to go through it.

>>717693069
They just changed the name to brown filtering. As in it filters out brown thirdies.

>>717692824 (OP)
i got one OP

>>717693575
Doom is fun for non virgins

>>717693605
so most microsoft employees won't be able to play it

>>717692824 (OP)
not playing your brownoid slop

It was kino.
Better than 2016.
Better than Eternal.
Kneel.

>>717693575
The fact you're terrified of naming a game you like says it all really.

>>717694203
doom 1

>>717692824 (OP)
150% speed already fixed it

120% speed with no slowdown is absolutely perfect.

>>717694269
doom 2 is better
checkmate retard

>>717694413
sure, but they're both better than any of the nudooms

>>717692824 (OP)
im never buying it.
literal parry slop
kys shill

>Eternal mod support out of beta
>TDA adds survival mode
>check steam charts
>nobody gives a shit

>>717693406
FPS is a 40 year old genre, and ray tracing brings nothing new to it

>>717694874
>Eternal mod support out of beta
5 years too late unless /v/ starts making maps

>>717692824 (OP)
They patched out the shield?

>>717693783
Yes saar is a very sad day.

>>717694050
I don't think it's better than Eternal but I'm having a lot of fun with it.

>>717694269
Doom 1 has shit combat compared to the Dark Ages.

>>717692824 (OP)
the game is still boring ass parryslop with busted weapons and shit music
there's nothing exciting in this game, the combat are just mundane, formulaic, and also too easy
the difficulty sliders shit is the worst part, this is literally id Software waving a white flag and admitting that they don't have any confidence in their game design
lastly, the gimmick vehicle and turret shit could have just been a fucking cutscene
3/10, but only because Hugo is a funny fellow

>>717692824 (OP)
is all the tracing shit disableable?

>>717696252
name something better that isn't eternal or the buttplug game

>>717696358
No, its there to keep seething destitute PClets away

>>717696418
>name a better game (except the games that are factually better than my slop)
Easy, DOOM 2016, because it's a simple and mindless shooter and doesn't try to do anything else

>>717696604
Doom 2016 is worse than Doom The Dark Ages in every measurable way its not even close.

>>717694874
TDA is console slop so its not surprising its not doing well on Steam and Eternal is 5 years old.

It would be an 8/10 if they didn't have the mech/dragon sections.
As is it's a generous 7.
Eternal - 9, 2016 - 7.5

>>717695285
Kaiser Campaign was made by a /v/irgin

>>717696069
but Plutonia beats DA

>>717692824 (OP)
Well, we all can agree that 2016 > Eternal. Next thread please, janny.

>>717694874
the fact that eternal is still more played than dark ages is pretty telling

>>717697675
Filtered

>>717697706
NOOOOO NOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS YOU FUCKING ZOOM REDDITERNAL SHIT

>>717697706
Eternal was just riding the Covid wave.

>>717697706
Eternal has replayability. You can load up one of the DLCs or a master level and just play it. If you pick any random level in Dark Ages, you'll just be completely OP because you have everything available to you. Replaying the whole game from the start sucks.

>>717697675
Negative

>>717697796
Not an argument

Ukraine lost.

enpress wen

>>717697849
He's right, moronic brown

>>717692824 (OP)
Nah it's a 4/10 at best
Funnily enough it's the least polished nu-DOOM game
All the fuck you money from microsoft and they couldn't release something as refined as 2016 or Eternal
I've stopped counting how many times I got softlocked from finishing an arena because some fucking zombie was stuck in a wall
Or the wonky checkpoint system the few times I died in this piss easy game
They should've let it bake in the oven for one more year at least

>>717698093
Then why is it still being played more than the newer game? Also what happened to you, tubby, some spic steal your girlfriend?

It fucking flopped
It's over.

>>717698145
>Funnily enough it's the least polished nu-DOOM game
Its more refined than 2016 with better combat and flow.

>>717698501
'Member in 2019-2020 when /v/ermin was telling us DOOM Eternal would bomb and be the new tortanic?
I 'member

>>717698706
There's no flowstate in Dark Ages whatsoever
For that the game would need to be actually challenging and put you on the edge at all times, like in Eternal for instance
As it stands you just need to be in enemies' faces, parry the ugly ass green projectiles that cover 90% of your screen over and over, and then pull out your super shotgun because there's no fucking incentive to use anything else realistically

>>717698706
not with slow + buggy weapon switch cooldowns, slow mo on each melee and less real enemies per arena than Eternal (no those legions of demons in a row that die to one shield throw dont count)
Game needs a bigger 2.0 update that adds more enemies/mob types, improves melee variety and makes the guns feel more meaningful
Its a shame because the potential is there

I do hope someone ports back all the DA enemies to Eternal and uses them

>>717692824 (OP)
what did they change?

>>717699359
added Hugo Martin commentary over your gameplay

>>717699143
i'm not that baiting shill, but they did make weapon swap faster in update 2, and also add a slowmo slider
still doesn't change the core problem, and in fact those changes make it even more piss easy than it already was

>>717697675
The only people who rate 2016 over other nuDooms are people just hate nuDoom in general. The only thing 2016 has going over the two sequels is the fact its story is fairly restrained and doesn't go full retard. In every other respect 2016 is just a very bare proof-of-concept for a nuDoom game.

>>717693406
>game runs at 1080p with an rtx2060
You again! Fine then I'll say it again, no 20 series card runs anything raytraced at an acceptable frame rate especially a 2060. Unless you count 22fps as running.

>>717699019
>There's no flowstate in Dark Ages whatsoever
Compared to 2016, yes there is.
>>717699143
All fixed now

>>717699359
nothing much
retarded dtda-fags think that a simple update made a 6/10 game a 9/10 game, while realistically it is a 6/10 game becoming a 6.3/10 game

>>717699798
Try harder, your bait is too obvious
Last (You) you are getting, fucktard.

>>717693691
Yes, actual doom, not this cashgrab dogshit

>>717694203
literally ANYTHING else other than gacha

>>717694050
Yeah that's why all the hype disappeared once the game releases and the shills stoped getting paid. DE rapes this oh trash game.

>>717699886
You're the one baiting here. The solution to every fight in 2016 is the same. It's trash.

>There's no flowstate in Dark Ages whatsoever
>Compared to 2016, yes there is.

>>717697675
Bait

>>717700034
The flying sections are there for pacing since they removed platforming you queer.

>>717700008
>no parryslop shite
>just pure tootin shootin
already 1000x better than the reddit ages

>>717700106
No it isn't. Having every enounter solved by the same rotation isn't fun or interesting. 2016 has worse combat than Doom 2.

>>717700089
platforming was the most basic shit ever than even a ipad toddler could manage, and those sections were like 30 seconds
meanwhile the slop ages will force 15 minutes of boring vehicle gimmick shit with no way to skip it

>>717700089
>since they removed platforming you queer.
I might actually have to try this game, hated that in Eternal, much like the rest of their changes

>>717700165
>Having every enounter solved by the same rotation isn't fun or interesting.
I agree, Dark Ages combat loop is not very engaging.

>>717700165
It is.
Dark ages is a fucking joke and embodies the marvelification of the Doom aesthetic even more than Eternal, along with a nigger gimmicky zoomer gameplay
If I want actual good gunplay with tons of shit to take into account then I'm booting up Ultrakill, not this garbage

>>717700212
>meanwhile the slop ages will force 15 minutes of boring vehicle gimmick shit with no way to skip it
its 5 minutes tops and is again used for pacing because they removed platforming
>>717700286
Dark Ages combat is loop is better than 2016's

>>717700334
Then play the buttplug game anon, nobody is stopping you not is anyone saying the Dark Ages is better than inserting buttplugs.

>>717693497
>Here is that flowstate I was telling you about
Riveting gameplay

DOOM The Queer Ages

>All games must be like Gaylo with no pacing, copy pasting the first 5 minutes of gameplay for the entire campaign
yeah, no.

>>717700334
>Dark ages is a fucking joke and embodies the marvelification of the Doom aesthetic even more than Eternal
My favorite game is Eternal but NOTHING is more marvelized than The Ancient Gods Part 2. Nothing even comes close.

>>717699359
Faster weapon switch
Faster parry after shield charge
Remixed fights in the second half of the game
Slo-mo can be reduced or disabled

>>717700669
Literally no reason to not play Ultrakill instead

DAs problem is that in essence, it takes none of the lessons learned from DOOM Eternal (or 2016) other than the way you regain ammo/life

Overall it's like a PS360 re imagining of DOOM2 that is somewhat faithful but has turret sections and vehicle sections

There are cool things in the enemies like the kind of projectile-fences they shoot, but the AI is too simple and easy to just focus down to the death + there's too few mobs.

>>717700669
You can actually hear projectiles now

>Parry
>Shoot
>Melee
>Parry
>Shoot
>Melee
>And so on and on and on and on
OH MY SCIENCE
JUST LIKE IN MY DARK SOULS GAME

>>717700769
your video is the equivalent of posting someone chainsawing a pinky in doom1

>>717700769
I find it difficult to believe that the people who made Eternal would have the gall to serve us this consolized casual slop
Unless all the talent left the studio after Eternal

>>717700769
TDA is crap but i don't understand this webm. It's like playing FIFA and just standing in place without kicking the ball and saying THIS GAME SUUUCKS WHY IS IT LIKE THIS??

>>717700769
No monster on their own is particularly interesting. Its managing an arena full of them that makes the game fun. This webm is retarded.

>>717700908
nope all the same people
DA was originally way more complex and 'weird' but they ended up cutting most of the content, like a more complex melee system

FUCK YEAH! :D
METAL! SO EPIC FOR THE WIN! xD
TRVE RETVRN TO FORM
JUST LIKE IN MY DOOM 1993 x)

>>717701046
What single player FPS games do you like, anon?

>>717701097
Beyond Citadel

>>717701097
Blood, Painkiller, Republic Commando

>>717700008
>The solution to every fight in 2016 is the same.
The solution to every fight is the same in every nudoom game.

GREEN GOOD
RED BAD

>>717701139
Worse combat than Doom The Dark Ages
>>717701175
Worse combat than Doom The Dark Ages

Why is it always the third game?

>mom look I posted a webm showing some gameplay element in isolation
>holy shit this game is bad because of this gameplay element in isolation

>>717701226
>>717701226
https://youtu.be/H-eeTOugFzc?t=646
using your own words, english language, at least 3 sentences, explain what is the solution to this fight

I love 2016 and Eternal so I want to try it while it's on sale, regardless of what people say about it, but I don't know that I want to enough that I'll buy it, and download 100GB only to potentially find out my PC is too shit to run it, uninstall it, and get a refund.

>>717701547
pirate it
if you like the game, BUY IT :^)

>>717701441
All he's doing is switching between the grenades and PB.

Speaking of Eternal mods, do you need to own the DLC to play mods that use new enemies? Never did end up getting them.

>>717701595
at least watch the video nigger

>>717701868
maybe, idk, but if you pirate it you can play most of the mods on the nexus

>>717701587
It's not cracked afaik. Denuvo.

Ill never get people trying to shit on eternal but praise crap like this
https://youtu.be/V_nnJO6IoGc?t=4208
over this
https://youtu.be/Fq5HEhq8nno?t=1291
I blame niggers like Civvie and his shit ass taste

>>717701868
Don't know about that but the DLCs are still worth it
Ancient Gods Part 1 is by far the hardest piece of vanilla content in the game, and the UAC Atlantica Facility level is absolute peak
Ancient Gods 2 is noticeably easier than part 1, but still harder than main campaign
Good shit overall, and all levels are visually varied with a bunch of new enemies

>>717702249
>>Ancient Gods Part 1 is by far the hardest piece of vanilla content in the game, and the UAC Atlantica Facility level is absolute peak
its not, master levels are harder especially post nerf
either way play KAISER CAMPAIGN

>Still no fast travel
It's shit

>>717700212
I actually enjoyed the platforming sections. They were brief and unobtrusive, with minimal frustrating moments. Almost wish they were actually hard but then they would have filtered even more plebbitors than they did with DE's combat.

>>717702309
When I said "Vanilla" content, I was excluding Master Levels and mods
But yeah, most master levels are vicious

If you liked Eternal or DA, try Siberian Mayhem, at least for its Survival Mode, its the only thing that gets close thanks to good enemy compositions and levels
Fast paced, needs forward thinking and positioning, requires good aim, its the late 90s shooter formula perfected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sb0Hzjwr_w

>>717702176
Blood is fun and people back then did not actually play on extra crispy since it was not until much later people would play games for bragging rights. Blood is the best build game. I regret not buying a copy back when because Doom clones were phasing out and went for MK4 instead...

Super Fun Nest is genuinely incredibly fun, the fact it also gives you the shotgun skin was sweet. Too bad they stopped giving gold skins for Master Levels.

Eternal is a great game.
TDA has a long way to go and the Heretic+Hexen re-release just cements it was possibly a new IP / revival forced into the Doom frame because MS and Bethesda demanded it.
As a new Ip I would had given TDA a pass but it is still terrible because $70 is way too much for how little it offers in contrast to Eternal and Doom 2016 which got everything.

The effort is commendable.
The good news is that it places Doom as a franchise in a spot where it cannot be whored out like Bethesda and MS wanted but it prevents Id from getting axed or treated like 343i. At this point I rather see Id tackle Halo, which I believe was the point of inserting the dragon and the mech into the game, to showcase they could do vehicle sections.

>>717702747
I have been meaning to get that but I am still clearing the backlog.
The music is so good.

There is also an indie FPS game Mick Gordon wrote the music for recently and I have not gotten around playing Trepang2.

>>717700663
TAG2 was full of gay lore but DA was written specifically to elicit soi-faced reaction videos on YouTube.
>"DEPLOY THE SLAYER"
>ZOMG so heckin' epic let's go boop those demorinos
It was way faggier than TAG2

>>717698179
It has more content, but it's not better.

>>717702176
>crap like this
did you even play Blood?

>>717699650
Yes, that is my biggest issue with Eternal compared to 2016. It has too many mechanics in it.

>>717702773
different versions of Blood (and Fresh Supply) have different difficulties from what I gathered. In that video the AI is much slower to react than the copy I pirated, played
this is on well done, note the first shot hitscane accuracy of the mob being aggrod for the first time
https://streamable.com/oo5wuq
20 hp just from that, and it's complete RNG on the accuracy

>>717703016
Nothing is as faggy as Hugo Martin's "i watched the Avengers and saw the portal scene and it was fukeen epic so I decided to add it into doom :DDD" scene in TAG2. Nothing comes close and you cannot convince me otherwise.

>le 2d black circle with neons lights around the edge
For a game about opening a portal to hell or whatever, the portals sure are uninspired.

>>717696358
No, it's there to filter out the poors.

>>717702387
It's called holding w

>doomstopyia food
mmmm... uma delica

>>717700212
BING BING WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717699019
Wow, it's like I'm really playing Doom 2!

>>717700623
Not gay or anything but the slaya looks kinda hot with makeup on.

>>717701175
Oh so baby easy FPS gotcha.

Anyone tried the mod manager on doom eternal on gamepass? Worth the 100 gig install?

>>717692824 (OP)
Should've fixed it before releasing it to the public tbhfam

You WILL parry when it flashes green
You WILL run out of ammo
You WILL press X to "awesome"
You WILL ride the turok evolution dragon
You WILL collect the funkpops
You WON'T skip the cutscenes
You WON'T shoot things until they die

>Doom Eternal updates
>unlocked skins remain
>all other progress is gone
Nani the fuck, Id.

>>717710742
>You WILL run out of ammo
You really won't, ever.

>>717710742
>You WILL parry when it flashes green
It's often optional. Depends on the enemy.
>You WILL run out of ammo
lmao
>You WON'T skip the cutscenes
They're fully skippable. I haven't watched a single one.
>You WON'T shoot things until they die
I have. Multiple times now.

>>717711661
>>717711956

>>717712074
>utterly BTFO
>le soi man

>>717712151
you only btfo yourself by defending this rancid slop

>>717712420
>no u
Jesus fucking christ.

>>717694874
>mod support
The thing about mod support is that you're supposed to release the damn feature the same time as the game, otherwise no one will give a shit. The same thing happened with Metro Exodus too.

>>717692824 (OP)
I already forgot this game came out.

>>THE DARK AGES SUCKS
>why?
>>PARRYSLOP AND UHHHHHHH
>what single player fps is better that isn't eternal or ultrakill
>>UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>717702176
I love both games, Blood,, like the fps of the period (build engine, doom clones), is as much an adventure/exploration game as it is a shooter.
Eternal is a pure mechanical shooter with closed arenas and very segmented level design. Comparing the action of both games doesn't do any justice to what great fps were before

>>717692824 (OP)
They patched everybody a refund and made the game not exist?

>>717716726
What games do you like anon?