Thread 717738619

Oh man I sure can't wait to explore the 100th dungeon/catacombs/cave filled with imps/skeletons/miners, with the same copy-pasted boss at the end who's gonna drop some spirit ashes that I'm never gonna never touch!

I wish there were more of those to explore.

The gargoyle imps are such dogshit enemies

You sound like you travel around at night and look for fresh cat turds to lick while massaging your foreskin.

The best part is walking around for 10 minutes just to find another one of these.

>>717738619 (OP)
A real dev like Bethesda couldn't do any better, what do you expect from a kusoge company?

This is always such a fag complaint
>NOOOOO I DONT WANNA EXPLORE ALL THESE COMPLETELY OPTIONAL AREAS OF AN OPEN WORLD GAME
Then don't go there, retard.

>>717739338
Did these dungeons improve the game?
no? then why are they there?

>>717739338
it's a completionist's nightmare

>>717739391
>Did these dungeons improve the game?
Yeah actually they did improve the open world. They aren't super unique or as interesting as the main dungeons. But a decent (OPTIONAL) extra.

If they didn't exist you and a bunch of other faggots would endlessly complain about how Elden Ring is just a bunch of empty areas between dungeons.

>>717738619 (OP)
they're optional... if you don't care about the reward then skip em. It's like bitching about chalice dungeons in bloodborne, just don't do them then lol

>>717739525
>Elden Ring is just a bunch of empty areas between dungeons
still is

>>717739525
>Elden Ring is just a bunch of empty areas between dungeons.
Literally what it is. The legacy dungeons were the only redeemable areas in that game, and they were anemic.

>>717739404
>spending hours on something you don't enjoy for a meaningless number nobody cares about
Completionists are high caliber retards surpassed only by speedrunners, anyway.

>>717739572
>>717739596
Name some open world games that aren't empty.

>>717739525
>empty areas between dungeons
Because it is. The Open World, and everything it brought and caused, are the biggest problems in the game.

>>717739798
They're all empty, but that's not the point.
The point are the things between that emptiness, is it worth going over that hill? Should I look over there? See that mountain?
It never felt rewarding in elden ring.

>>717739816
>>717739971
It was clear that Elden Ring was open world months before it came out. If you don't like open world games because they are ''empty'' you shouldn't have bought/played it.

>>717740337
Hey retard. Learn how to read.

>>717739971
There are a few moments I really enjoyed in Elden Ring, but when I think about them, it only highlights all the other shit and just makes it feel worse.
Like the Giant carriages or the Golem attack in Atlas Plateau.

>>717740337
I love open world games. The problem with ERs is that the open world parts are not done well.

>>717740459
Name some of those open world games that are done well

>>717740374
Nice cope reply faggot

>>717740556
You reply with nothing relevant, you get a nothing reply.
Heres (You)r second one.

>>717740609
You complained about all open world games being empty and I said you should stop playing open world games then. Then you acted like even more of a faggot by pretending I didn't read your post.

Enjoy your last (you)

>>717740556
>Name some
Yeah, so you can just say they're all bad? No open world should feel so static. Elden Ring does. I already know what your reply is going to be, so I'm just gonna go.

>>717740706
You can't read, but try again >>717739971

>>717739391
It's to give you something to do if you get stuck in the main quest
Serves the dual purpose of letting your brain work on the boss in the background and making your character stronger

>>717739532
The murder my fps. Every souls game runs great on my laptop but then this crap with its foliage and useless areas and just empty empty spaces destroy performance. Open world games suck. Especially this one

>>717740946
Either you're cornered and you can't name open world games that are ''done well'' or you are too much of a pussy that you don't want to expose your shit taste in games.

Either way it's clear I am wasting my time with people that have 0 knowledge of games.

>>717741019
>making your character stronger
Thats another issue with elden ring:
You can be too weak or too strong when arriving in a new area. I went north of limgrave in my first playthrough, completely ignoring the south part.
It wasn't too difficult to go north, but when I went back it was all too easy, I wanted to explore but felt punished (as in there was no challenge to overcome) for doing it in the wrong order.

>>717738619 (OP)
I liked them, many of them were unique and memorable, and they were a nice source of runes to level up, but imps were the most bullshit enemies in the game

>>717738716
Get some poise and a strike weapon

>>717739783
>Add collectathon to your tightly paced action formula
>Make fun of people who try to do the collectathon
Yeah. Sounds like a great use of everyone's time to me.

>>717738619 (OP)
They are the equivalent of Chalice Dungeons in Bloodborne. They are meant for extremely autistic people who want to complete everything.

>rage quit with ALT+F4
>game won't load anymore
>tried everything to fix the save-file to no avail
thank god I didn't pay actual money for this shit

>>717741796
>>rage quit with ALT+F4

Just skip it you pinhead. I skip a vast majority of them if I'm not using ashes

>>717739798
red dead redemption 1 and 2
kingdom come 1 and 2

>>717739391
>Did these dungeons improve the game?
yes, because i personally find them fun

>>717739338
>dude just don't play the game its optional

>>717742442
>order a meal
>it comes with a side-order of shit
>complain
>"whoa, dude, where's the problem, you know it's optional, right? just eat around it, bro, there's no need to get angry I've put shit in front of you"
i hope that giving it in the form of a food analogy has cleared things up for you

>>717743485
>food analogy
didn't read

>>717743485
but did I pay for the side-order?

>>717743253
I mean, yeah. it is. don't play the game if yoj don't enjoy playing it. what are you trying to say?

>>717738619 (OP)
I say this
I don't look like this though

>>717741469
Why is the entire userbase of /v/ incapable of understanding that a fight being shit or bad doesn't just mean you died to it. Holy fuck you people are stupid

>>717743549
please read it, I put a joke at the end just for you>>717743867

>>717741019
The only purpose in an adventure game is playing adventurer.
For whatever reason, if a player comes upon a door and decides it would be best for him not to enter it and see what it hides then the adventure game has FAILED.

>>717745213
No, that's moronic. That criteria completely kills roguelikes where you have to actually weigh up risk and reward

>>717745623
are roguelikes adventure games now?

>>717745623
I've never lived through an adventure while playing a roguelike. They are rehearsal and performance.

>>717745764
Yeah
>>717745874
You just lack the autism required for the task

Good luck defining the adventure genre. Try looking at a media catalog's genre section for examples, jojels.

>>717738619 (OP)
yeah, but what if the next one gives you the ashes for a cool guy, like solaire.
you aren't the kind of guy who just looks up a wiki for a game you never played, ruining half the intrigue of finding out stuff for yourself are you?

The problem with the "dungeons are optional just ignore them bro" rhetoric is that you don't know what's in them until you actually do them.

So I wanted to roleplay as a Spear guy, and there's only a couple of spears in the game really, I would get bored of using the same starting spear I found in the first 10 minutes of the game and then never again something after 30 hours. So naturally I couldn't skip any dungeon I came across because it might have given me something I needed for my build. Playing so many dungeons ended up diluting my overall fun experience with some boring filler slog. I did not feel the same way about Dark Souls 1 for example.
(A solution would be to check the wiki, but that's not helpful if you played Day 1 like me, and checking wiki on your first playthrough is lame anyway.)

Fromdrones are literal pajeets so for them this is unironic peak content.

Remember that all those assets were placed by literal POO IN THE LOOS (pic rel) and retarded loretubers will jizz themselves over "lore implications".

>>717746165
What if it does? What if it doesn't. There's only so many disappointments a chronic chest opener can endure before giving up.

>>717743485
its an open world game anon
so more like
>sit down at buffet
>get told that someone shat in the meatloaf tray
>you dont have to go over to the meatloaf tray, its seperate from the rest of the buffet
>insist that you HAVE to eat from that tray, because you want to try everything in the buffet
>get mad that you got sick from eating 5 servings of shit instead of just enjoying something else from the buffet.

>>717738619 (OP)
>never gonna never touch

So you'll use them? Also why are you entering those catacombs? You have family there or something? You have no business there.

I'm currently replaying all souls games and never played Elden Ring.

Can you give me a quick rundown on how it differs to souls games?

How is the difficulty? I got the impression it was made to appeal to a broader audience so I would think it should be easier but then again I see super annoying looking flashy attack spamming bosses.

>>717746275
if you dont care about finding all the items, reading all their lore descriptions, and try to peice it all together, then fromslop may not be for you.
i unironically farmed for full sets of armor i would never wear in ds1, 2 AND 3, all because i wanted to read all the parts, because damn do they flesh out the enemies you fight.
and i enjoyed doing the catacombs, because they were only like, 10 minutes, i knew they were low stakes, and had a fun time just dungeon delving, PLUS i got a cool ash telling me about how these archers used to ride wolves because their legs dont work, which tells me why the albernauticals are all crawling, thats cool.

>>717746218
If you knew what was behind the doors it would be a much bigger problem for the game with loot hidden behind doors. From took the DS catalog of mechanics which were designed for linear levels and slapped it all unto an open world, 1 to 1. It doesn't fit. It's why most of everyone agrees that the large dungeons of Elden Rings are the best parts of the game because in those area, the game is accordance with its own design.

>>717746520
>Can you give me a quick rundown on how it differs to souls games?
The controls are not as clunky as in DS1, that's for sure
>How is the difficulty?
That's up to you and your build
>I got the impression it was made to appeal to a broader audience
No, it just went mainstream, even Fromsoft was surprised by its success.

>>717744496
Now I'm 100% sure you died to it lol. Notice how you never gave any reason why you hate them in your 2 posts.

>>717739030
>skull tapping spell casting darkness all over the room

kino

>>717746561
I've never been interested in playing sherlock holmes with the clues in DS-type games but you're right, the activity is meant to be integral to the gameplay.
The unfortunate popularity of these games. This dancefloor is a hit with cripples.

>>717739404
sounds like a problem for your therapist, not the game dev.

>>717738619 (OP)
Yeah same. I love Elden Ring.

>>717745764
Roguelikes are the purest adventure games you can have.

>>717739338
why did they put most of the good accessories in these pieces of shit procedural caves? it's like a kick in the nut, i had 4 slots before i got a single accessory worth equipping

>>717743485
>cant get a plate without eating a side-order of shit
>cant get a spoon without eating a side-order of shit
>cant get a fork without eating a side-order of shit
>cant get a knife without eating a side-order of shit
>"whoa, dude, where's the problem, you know it's optional, right?

>>717738619 (OP)
>>717739030
>>717746242
But enough about nu-zelda
Don't forget to buy ER (plus DLC) when it releases on your branded cattlebox, tranny freaks

>>717750827
nu-zelda's world is far too oversized, empty and reptitive, but at least you get rewarded for doing shrines, that grind isn't for nothing.

>>717743485
>>717750609
https://youtu.be/hdIXrF34Bz0

>>717739404
I'm a completionist and it actually helps a lot that Souls doesn't tell me what I've missed. It's the games with a literal checklist that really kill me.

>>717751328
for fromsoft games you have to make the checklist yourself, which is better than having the checklist built into the game.
in other words, you did not beat the game

>>717738716
Because they kick your ass?

>out of the 165 base game bosses there are only 30 unique bosses which aren't copy pasted

GRIM

ds3 clears yet again

>>717751098
Well the reward for doing dungeons in Elden Ring (apart from runes) is actually playing a good game

>>717752037
>1kg of dogshit is better than 1ton of dogshit
you are correct

>>717738619 (OP)
Just play nightreign, it's the obvious superior improvement to ER. No padding bullshit, no downtime in-between. Just rush through the area, grab what you need and fight the next boss immediately. Ishizaki should have been the one to direct ER instead of miyazaki