Thread 717741545

>/v/ shits on it
>buy it during a sale
>It's actually pretty good
Why do you guys hate fun so much?

play 5 more hours please and then make this thread again without cringing

>It's actually pretty good
>10 hours later
>Turns out it's not
>It's just copy/paste in an empty universe

im having a blast. /v/ is just full of salty boomers

>shill thread
The PS5 version must be close.

>>717741613
>>717741621
I'm 40 hours in and still enjoy it, so I consider it money's worth with the 40% discount.

I know you're anonymous but you dont have to come here and flaunt your low standards

>>717741704
How can anyone enjoy doing the same quests in the same locations over and over again for 40 hours? Genuinely, are you mentally ill?

>>717741687
I'm not even being paid for it

>>717741864
40 hours is like 3 hours of loading screens

>>717741545 (OP)
You need to realize that this game double filtered the typical /v/ user because not only does it need a modern PC but it also was not on ps4/5.
This means they had zero access to it and had to make do with outrage clickbait.

>>717741545 (OP)
>It's actually pretty good
No it's not
>Why do you guys hate fun so much?
I dislike Starfield because I do like fun. Starfield was neither TES meets Mass Effect nor Fallout meets Mass Effect, and it's fucked when a 2023 game can't compare itself to a 2007 one

>>717741864
nta, but for me it's... number goes up = dopamine

>>717741621
But enough about Elden Ring

>>717741913
get an SSD nigger

Who thought having identical dungeons was a good idea?

>>717742094
So that's a yes

>>717742193
it's called autism and I'm not ashamed of it.

>>717742160
But enough about starfield

>>717741704
the modern slop-consoomer is a terrifying thing. you'll love the age of AI generated games. just thousands upon thousands of hours of soulless slop content for you to slop through. I guess I'M jealous. its an easy life.

>>717742234
they are like zillion games they are doing the concept of number goes up = dopamine several times better out there, you have no excuse

>>717742137
Kek this

>>717742139
Does Starfield even boot from HDD?

>SW Outlaws is peak ubisoft open world unlockathon slop
>so exactly what I enjoy
>it's fun, i beat it, i move on
hm

Starfield is kino, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>717742302
You are a bot on 4chan.

>>717741704
What’s reality? I don’t know. When my bird was looking at my computer monitor I thought, ‘That bird has no idea what he’s looking at.’ And yet what does the bird do? Does he panic? No, he can’t really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he’s so ignorant? Well, he doesn’t really have a choice. The bird is okay even though he doesn’t understand the world. You’re that bird looking at the monitor, and you’re thinking to yourself, ‘I can figure this out.’ Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do.

>>717741545 (OP)
Get some basic standards please.

>>717742439
I'm not just a bot – I'm the best when it comes to marketability, creativity, and bottom-line growth!

the art design is good except for the NPCs. but let's be honest, they have never figured out how to design NPCs. they have always been ugly. other than that, I never played the game myself so I can't give an opinion beyond that. thanks for reading

>>717742652
For every cool looking outfit or spacesuit there's five abhorrent ones
>they have never figured out how to design NPCs. they have always been ugly
Tell that to the millions of people that have wanted to fuck Lydia, Serana and Aela for the last 14 years

>buggy update with no storage finally broke a modder and had him write a 1000+ word review about how shit this game is
brutal

>>717742749
I kneel. Starfield managed to unite console players, PC players, vanilla players, modding players, old TES players, new TES players, old Fallout players and new Fallout players into hating Bethesda.

>>717742749
Negative reviews from people with 1000+ hours are peak retardation.

>>717741545 (OP)
>Why do you guys hate fun so much?
Please refer to the following video essay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INsc0CnXfq0

>>717741545 (OP)
If this is an honest thread, which I doubt a lot, then I'm actually jealous.
I wanted to like this game a lot, but apart from some consumable and weapon models, almost everything in the game was disappointing to a record-breaking degree to me.

>>717741968
>need a modern PC
studios poorly optimizing games is not something you should be defending even for anonymous internet tough guy points

>>717742749
Homie dedicated at least 6-12 months of his life just to shit on Bethesda. Now that's commitment.

>>717742963
Dropped it 10 minutes in a few days ago, I get what he was trying to get across but his writing sucks, he repeats himself too often and is all around a low effort video. Writing critiques is an art, too.

>330 hours in
>still good

>>717741545 (OP)
Do you like it as an RPG or as a space game?

>>717741545 (OP)
I have enjoyed Starfield and was part of the hype train. I went through NG+ 10 times to maximize my character and the highest possible difficulty, and even played through the DLC.

I think it has very good tech. The NPCs are very expressive, you can see every muscle and wrinkle in their face contort, no other game that doesn’t face-scan can do this. The system also has a genius and unadvertised global planetary rotation system to simulate solar eclipses almost-accurately, like, you can see what a solar eclipse would look like on a planet with a satellite that’s closer or further than our moon, and it’s real interesting. The main quest isn’t baseless bullshit either, it revolves around a very important tech that made spacefaring possible, and it’s both genius and thought-provoking, I can’t think of any other game that made me ponder about these types of topics.

I’m still upset that we still have to deal with 1000 planets that are entirely procedurally generated instead of sticking with the original 24-star system. Nothing will ever fix this, it makes exploring planets worthless. I only drop on moons surrounding gas or ice giants or habitable planets to take cool picture of the vista, I don’t like looking at biologically fucked-up creatures.

>>717742094
so you just have incredible low standards

>>717742439
Weird thing for a bot to say

>>717743018
>poorly optimizing
That's not it, the game run well on everything that isn't a decade old. Basically if you have 1080ti it will run just as shit as 1050 but if you have 2060 the game will run well enough. Same with CPU any Ryzen will run it just fine but fourth gen intel will not regardless if it's i7 or i3.
The reason why people cry about Starfield optimization is because Bethesda put too many NPCs in city without using any tricks to lower the logic burden, so high end PC get 90fps there instead +120fps people expected, but that's only cities, outside of them the game run +120fps just fine.
Basically it's like using center of Boston to measure fps in Fallout 4 aka the most dense packed arena in the game and claiming this is the performance everywhere.
I won't even bother making fun of poor souls that use HDD in 202X.

>>717742868
Nah, negative reviews from people with hundred if not thousand of hours spent on a game are based as fuck and to be taken seriously.

>>717744043
The character creation and background stories are great for roleplay. As for space, it’s all aesthetic, I think chilling outside of Cydonia in Mars is incredibly immersive, it totally passes as humanity’s very first form of civilization in the infancy of spacefaring.

awful time waste play soemthing else

>>717741545 (OP)
>buy
I dont believe you
show me recipe or you never buy shit

>>717745736
Proof that all Starfield haters are ESL thirdworlders who can’t afford it, nor a PC to run it, and thus resort to crying about it.

>>717741545 (OP)
I got it as a gift from an anon here. It's pretty alright. It's a step up from Fallout 4 if you like the shooting looting generic gameplay. Quest is more cinematic and varied with barely any noticeable bugs. I run it on my absolute shitbox just fine after downscaling the texture. It's by far the most stable game Bethesda has released honestly. A shame it was being ruined by Todd's attempt to paywall the mod community.

>>717742749
modders are a special bunch, and I think I might be glad I didn't start down that path when I was younger

>>717742591
its a Terry Davis copypasta

>>717741545 (OP)
because bethesda bad. my favorite e-celeb told me so.

>>717742516
Explain your pic

>>717749079
>he enjoyed Fallout 4
>he enjoyed Fallout 76
>he enjoyed Starfield
Grim

I got it free with my CPU when it came out and even with that as a bonus (it didn't factor into my purchase of the CPU at all), I found it rather meh compared to their prior entries.

Doesn't help that the majority of the sidequests is pointless amounts of running around, and there's nothing interesting going on with the weapon types/mods available. You'll find yourself a good gun early on and you're good for the rest of the game.

OP's first bait thread, so cute

yfw
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14425

>>717749689
>refreshes the catalog another 100 times in the next couple hours

>>717749079
true, I donate to him my entire monthly salary to yap incessantly while I treat his words like gospel.

No one is saying you can't enjoy slop. People come to /v/ expecting a general consus that they have to fall in line with. That's bullshit. If you like a terrible game then you are free to enthuse about that game. Just because some says you have shit taste does not make that game any less unenjoyable.

Eh. Certainly it has a lot of flaws and could be much better than it is, but the game is honestly not bad. I find it hard to judge because I enjoy most games, but for reference, I think I enjoyed Starfield significantly more than E33 which this board considers "goty". Not sure why this board hates it so much but I assumed it was just a few autists who have Bethesda derangement syndrome

>>717750118
you didn't play the game, kiddo.

>>717749550
Same mountain, two different planets

>>717749857
>"This mod contains adult content. You can turn adult content on in your preference, if you wish"

>>717741545 (OP)
it's a bethesda game, most people love their games (despite all of them being mostly shit)
but as far as bethesda games go this one wasn't particularly bad compared to the others
it's more of the same but in a different setting
also being able to build your ship was cool (despite being superficial like anything in their games)

>>717741545 (OP)
Starfield came out in 2023.
OP, do you have any memory of what kind of RPGs, Open World games and Open World RPGs came out that year?
>Why do you guys hate fun so much?
Because a lot of us were busy with other games and Bethesda was asking us to spend our time on their distilled mediocrity instead.
Literally everything that could have been said about it has been said. Discussing the same points about Starfield is more repetitive than the game itself.

>>717750696
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/249203-gergel-ebanex-starfield-sex-mod-upcoming/

>>717741545 (OP)
it's sort of good but the general content isn't as good as other bethesda games. I got 56 hoursand I felt like there wasn't much else to the game, which is insane for a bethesda game. I'll go back to it and go to max level planets and do dungeons there I suppose

>>717750607
Yeah, that's what happens with procedural generation if you don't know what you're doing. You get 1000 unique planets, but hundred of them has the same same city not because it was pregenerated, but because the happened to use the same seed.

>>717741545 (OP)
>op has dogshit taste
more news at 11

I am genuinely considering reinstalling (pirate) starfield and continue my old save from... 2 weeks after the game's release. I wanna do several ng+, do all the content, see how bad it can get and how much enjoyment can i extract from this, and how good or terrible some quests are. I'm curious.

>>717750714
>this one wasn't particularly bad compared to the others
It was worse
>it's more of the same
People complained among other things because it wasn't more of the same and they tried some weird copypasted dungeon procgen slop

>>717741545 (OP)
You are one of the few. Even not comparing it with previous Bethesda titles it stands alone as a thoroughly mediocre and utterly sanitised experience. Not worth the money or the time. You seem to have no respect for either.

>>717752342
>some weird copypasted dungeon procgen slop
yeah definitely worse than the copypasted caves in skyrim
like I said, same shit, different setting

>>717741704
>I'm 40 hours in and still enjoy it, so I consider it money's worth with the 40% discount.
So you're just a retard. Understood.

Honestly, if Starfield is the Bethesda game that finally makes you realize Bethesda is shit, fine, better late than never, but you're still fucking retarded.

>>717741704
You have low standards.

>>717752657
Skyrim reused assets but were handmade, there's a big difference between that and procgen slop young retard-kun.

>>717744909
>without using any tricks to lower the logic burden
Yeah, that's why those NPCs have lower quality model than the handplaced ones, and why they just randomly walk between handplaced nodes to make the city appear more alive. No tricks whatsoever, sure.

>>717752657
>copypasted caves in skyrim
Factually wrong

>>717752327
>the good
Almost all the quests are good. The lighting has also improved for most interiors, so the characters and set pieces will look better.
>the bad
NG+ specifically, just get a mod to get all your powers automatically upgraded each time you skip universe, you’ll thank me.
>the neutral
the game increase difficulty by 5% for each universe you skip, capping at the 10th.
5% extra damage received
5% less damage done to enemies

caps at 50% for each, and unfortunately, applies to ships as well. You can manually adjust the difficulty slider in the settings to specifically reduce ship damage received, because dogfighting becomes unbearable if you don’t.

>>717742963
>video essay
>e-celeb shit
>can't think for himself

>>717741704
>spending any money at all on this game
ngmi i would've partially understood you if you were playing on gamepass

for as long as it took them to make it it was hilariously poorly done about 10 unique buildings in proc gen and less than 10 partially hand crafted planets with pocgen between the ship combat is fun for about 10 minutes and then quickly gets tiring im glad i pirated it

>>717741545 (OP)
The biggest crime it commits is the absolute waste of potential. Bethesda went with randomly generated worlds, but didn’t create nearly enough ‘stuff’ (locations, loot, enemies, etc) to fill that world. With the current state of updates, it’s an ‘okay’ game, but it was much worse at launch and it’s still missing out on a lot of its potential. The unity is a garbage mechanic/plot device too, absolutely kills any desire to start the game over from scratch. Faction quests are okay, but most are too short and make you feel like an errand boy more than a protagonist.
>t. 100%’d the game before the DLC.

Starfield is one of the more definitive NPC experiences. It lets you experience what it's like to leave the map of the game world and virtually go wherever you want rather than be confined to a particular location all the time. It's kinda like how you'd imagine seeing Princess Zelda escape from Hyrule Castle with Impa, but you can actually follow her out into the wilderness beyond Hyrule instead of being blocked by low poly mountains and trees.

>>717741545 (OP)
I am almost jealous of you. Being so easily amused is a blessing you are lucky to have.

>4chan has become so contarian that Timmy's idea for a bait thread is just saying he liked a game
I mean it's Starfield's fault for being shit too obviously

>>717744531
>The main quest isn’t baseless bullshit either, it revolves around a very important tech that made spacefaring possible, and it’s both genius and thought-provoking, I can’t think of any other game that made me ponder about these types of topics.
Kek this reminds me of how I wrote essays in 4th grade to pad out my word count without saying anything substantial.

>>717741545 (OP)
Nobody plays this slop anymore. Even Bethshitsta binned it.

I like Starfield too

>>717753610
They put a solar systems worth of work into a galaxy sized project.

They forgot the lesson going from Daggerfall to Morrowind. Less is more.

>>717741545 (OP)
The story sucks, the companions suck
but I do like just walking around killing space bandits
Expansion 100% not worth it though, since it's more story and the story is gay and retarded

The bones of something good are there and if Starfield can get an Enderal esque mod to chaptalize on it then you would have a kino ass space game. Also still can't mod the game to be like pic related so it's still shit.

>>717755472
The expansion has good dungeons and they're actually unique, not copied and pasted infinitely around the universe. I'm not a fan of the neon aesthetic or the story but credit where it's due.
desu I'm not sure why people expect story to be good in Bethesda games at all. Writing hasn't been a focus of theirs in forever, but even games with a complete garbage story like FO3 can be fun if you enjoy crawling the dungeons.

Todd said that they recorded about 4 times more dialogues than for Fallout 4. After playing through all the main and side quests, there's been less dialogues than in Fallout 4 so far. Starfield has almost no quests to speak of. Cydonia and Jew Atlantis are the only quest hubs and Jew Atlantis bombs the player with radiant trash from the very first visit. Various named NPCs don't have much of anything to say. Companions in Fallout 4 had more dialogues than entire galaxy combined. Where's the dialogues, Todd?

it's a purpose built gamepass game. actually spending money on it separately is retarded

>>717756145
So my options are

Buy a shit game from a shit company that will use the money to make more shit games and then wait years for someone in the community to patch it so I can finally maybe play a good game

OR Buy a good game from a good company that will use the money to make more good games

That's a toughie alright

>>717758358
illusion of choice
>good game from a good company
doesn't exist

>>717758456
Of course a fuckwit on /v/ would believe this

>>717758568
name them so we can laugh at you

>>717758568
If you look at the old beloved classics and read what the developers said about them in retrospect, it becomes painfully obvious that shit companies and clueless devs made good games by pure accident and 20 years later they still don't understand what was so appealing about those games.

>>717758632
You're so unbelievably brainrotted I could present you solid gold and you'd say it sucks so maybe suck my dick instead

>>717758751
>he can't do it
see.

>>717742302
I'm unironically jealous of npcs, I wish I could enjoy everything in society becoming trash.

>>717741545 (OP)
i will only buy this game once its dips below $10

>>717759000
just say 'never', it's shorter

>>717750607
How could that have happened??? I was under the impression that todd made unlimited different mountains so you would never run into the same thing twice

>>717742516
rocks are different, btfo'd

/v/ is mostly gacha threads, ragebait, and people praising trash like fromsoft games.
I wouldn't take their opinion on games too seriously.

>>717742094
so play realm of the mad god for free instead of giving bethesda money for bullshit

>>717758358
Is it really? Most people on here pirate Bethesda games anyway

>>717741864
people here have very low standards

>>717755204
Because I’m intentionally not spoiling it, retard-kun,

>>717752825
yeah but buildings and "dugeons" in starfield are not procgened either, they're procgened placed maybe, with some procgen item placement too or whatever, but definitely handmade too
easy to verify, because as I said you always end up encountering the same structures, just like in skyrim you encountered the same caves
don't call other retards when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about

>>717741864
They don't, hence why most people playing Starfield aren't even playing it vanilla. There has been several mods since release that aim to reduce the monotony of exploration by adding more locations so you don't keep coming across the same shit as much. Dark Universe mods, GRINDTerra mods, Forgotten Frontiers (Paid) mods, etc.

>>717760910
They're so lazily made that even items placed in POIs are not randomized. If some specific table has cherry soda on it, it will be cherry soda everywhere you find it. By comparison, Skyrim and Fallout 4 used dummy objects that pulled randomly from a list of objects, be it foods, gems, potions or drugs.

Where Starfield currently stands as far as sex animation mods are concerned:

Skyrim > Oblivion > Fallout 4 > Starfield > New Vegas > Fallout 3 > Oblivion Remaster > Morrowind

>>717762879
>Oblivion
I never imagined that anyone would want to see sexy animations of the characters in the original Oblivion

>>717762979
There have been far worse looking sex games that people have fapped to back in the day, trust me.

did they made space piracy good or it's still "do anything funny and you're chased by the entire universe forever"

>>717762879
kek, is there seriously a sex animation mod for Morrowind?

>>717764206
Yes, it's called Mr Cellophane's Lovers and Legends

>>717752943
>Almost all the quests are good
Impossible when 65% of the quests are slop accepted from a terminal like pic related

>>717765750
This really reminds me of SWG and its infinite terminal quests.

>>717757003
Yeah the game is meant to have 190,000 lines of dialogue more than Skyrim, but it sure as fuck doesn't feel like it

>>717765750
Those aren't even quests, they even go in a different section of the UI if I remember right.
desu if Todd has to keep pushing radiant quests, I'd much rather he clearly marks them like this, than try to cheekily slip them into main questlines like in FO4

>>717760207
What does Shivering Isles have to do with anything?

>>717760910
>you always end up encountering the same structures, just like in skyrim you encountered the same caves
>>717752861

>>717766010
Yeah it's always a good sign when your singleplayer RPG has quests that remind you of MMO busywork

>>717767175
It's even worse. In SWG you took the terminal missions because that was the only source of credits, and you had to pay house upkeep, resource extractor maintenance and travel fares. In Saarfield looting 3 space bandits gives you enough weapons and jetpacks to crash the galactic economy.

>>717741545 (OP)
>>buy it during a sale
>>It's actually pretty good

>>717766996
they are tho, you don't have to lie everyone played skyrim so it's really no big secret

Its kinda interesting how there cant be a single individual who isn't bothered by the loading screens
they're pervasive, weird, in your face ALL THE TIME
some quests are absolutely retarded the amount of time you spend watching a black screen during gameplay

So basically 100% of people who say stafield is mostly good without mentioning the obvious disruptive downsides are lying.

>>717741545 (OP)
Most of the people who hate this game never played it.
Welcome to /v/

>>717768125
dude, starfield has no denuvo

>>717768032
On M2 drives the load screens take under 2 seconds. It's the least of this game's problems. The most damning thing is that the whole world and setting suck. Not once does anyone feel "yeah I'd like to visit such a place IRL if it were possible", let alone "I want to live here".

>>717768125
I presume most of the Twitter posters, gacha players, and third worlders play basically 1 game a year at most
No one here seems to care about video games just tertiary drama

>>717768280
imagine the world and setting being in the background, but you have good content in front of you for a moment
you still have to deal with the immersion breaking loading screens all the time
it never stops
it doesnt matter its "only couple seconds", it broke the continuity. Your brain stopped thinking about the good content.

>>717767910
If they are, I'm sure you'll be able to point out to me two caves in Skyrim that are copypasted from one another. I'll be waiting.

>>717768493
Never bothered me in previous BGS games because the worlds were good. You had loading screens going into every little hut and back outside, hardly anyone complained.

>>717768702
w3 came out a decade ago

I still find loading screens in older games terrible for the experience, but they have the benefit of being old.

>>717768501
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Caves

>>717741545 (OP)
it is what's called a flawed masterpiece

>>717768768
Fundamentally different game. BGS will never be able to abandon loading screens because of the way script engine works and how many things have a ton of scripts attached to them. Previous games made a better use of scripting, while Saarfield feels completely dead with NPCs not having routines or insane Oblivion conversations. Can't do shit like dropping a knife in the middle of a Skyrim town and watching everyone get into a massive fight over it.

>>717769028
Weird, not a single one of those caves is copypasted. Feel free to prove me wrong though, after all all you need is a screenshot like pic related that shows two caves are the same and I won't leave this thread anytime soon. I'll be waiting.

>>717768032
I barely noticed them to be completely honest. On SSD they were very quick. And like >>717768702 says, every previous Bethesda game had them and it was never an issue before.

Also, loading is a issue in every game. Some try to hide it by having you walk through needlessly long corridors, squeeze through a crack or ride on slow elevators. I find those more annoying because you often can't shorten them by having good hardware. And since they're tuned for console load times they take way too damn long.

>starfaild
>wide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle
>childishly simplistic combat
>open world is empty
>no actual travel, fast travel for all travel, ie - point and click
>loading screens absolutely everywhere, for absolutely everything
>boring story
>woke af
>dull characters
>uninteresting companions
>no memorable missions
>no remarkable locations
>modding scene died within two months of its release
>reasons cited by modders as to why they abandoned Starfaild is because they grew bored with the game after ten hours of play, and because the game engine's framework of loading and unloading world cells in the game is broken beyond repair

Starfaild has set the new industry definition for what is a soulless video game.

>>717769340
stay here if you want I'm not reinstalling skyrim and going thru dungeons just for you
there's plenty of copy pasted caves and just because one has draugs and another has bandits doesn't mean it's different
bethesdafags are ridiculous, those games are shit not my fault you can't see it

My biggest gripe with this game is humans.
This is a space game where the only sentient species in the galaxy are humans.

Do you have any idea how fucking boring the game becomes when the only aliens are animals?

>>717769469
most of this list would still work if you replaced starfield by any other bethesda game

>>717769528
>no argument
Figures. You think I created that webm? No, I found it online, because Starfield has copypasted dungeons, so it's incredibly easy to find videos and screenshots that other people made discussing the same thing. Skyrim is 14 years old, surely you can find a screenshot of some dude from 2014 showing how there are copypasted caves? Oh what's that? You cannot? Because Skyrim does not, in fact, have a single copypasted dungeon in the entire game? I'll accept the concession, fucking retard.

>>717769667
I gave it some thought and, you know, that's actually true. Holy fuck, Bethesda has been overrated all along.

>>717741545 (OP)
The ship building was cool. The gunplay is actually decent. It's a shame the level design, quests and story sucked ass. Also there is no point to space battles which is a huge miss in a fucking space game. Plus you can't even be a smuggler let alone 'evil' in the game

>>717769756
I don't care about your webm, didn't even watch it in the first place
you're a retard if you defend any game from bethesda, copypasted skyrim caves is a thing and just because the enemies in it are slightly different or the end reward isn't exactly the same doesn't mean plenty of them don't share layouts
how fucking blind can you be if you can't even notice that
defending a shit game because you have shit taste

ITT:
People who did not play starfield
Retards who can't follow rumors to quests even with direction and markers on every type of map
Retards who expected a new IP to not handhold new players
People who didn't get any star powers and thought there were no abilities for combat
People who were grifted by negative press instead of forming their own opinions
Retards who actively ignored direction to quests and heard no dialogue
Poors with trash cards before 3000 series actively ignoring the system requirements posted
Idiots who didn't watch any of the dozens of hours of pre-launch dev talks that expected a different game than was literally explained


Yes, the randomly generated quests and locations are copy pasted. Skyrim had this same system for ambient quests. You fucked your own experience up by making up a game they never promised, like a mentally ill child.

>>717769528
Do you mean that all caves are assembled from the same set of building blocks, what's internally called kitbashing? That's every game, nobody is going to sculpt a unique set of rocks for every cave. You take the lego kit and build different things out of it.

>>717769903
Come to think of it, is Starfield the only game where you can design and fly a ship, walk around in it, land it on planets and dogfight in space and (besides the landing transition) it all meshes seamlessly?
The fact that you can get up out of your seat and walk around the ship during a battle is actually amazing, I assume they put the simulator hack thing in the Vanguard quest just to show it off. Hell, they even have one quest where an NPC flies the ship where you walk around.
Shame about the story, but the game is a technical marvel, especially when you realize they did that with fucking Gamebryo.

>>717741545 (OP)
expectations, if todd wasnt the tes/fallout guy it would just be another deeply flawed but ambitious space game
but because todd is infact the tes/fallout guy we were all expecting tes/fallout in space

>>717770163
>Retards who can't follow rumors to quests even with direction and markers on every type of map
>Retards who actively ignored direction to quests and heard no dialogue
I did all that. There's still fuck all to do outside of actually settled systems. There's that Mantis lair thing, the delayed colonial ship from Earth, the sentient AI ship, and that's it. Nothing else to find out there.

>>717770036
no, there aren't copy pasted dungeons in skyrim, they copy and paste tiles to make up unique dungeons in skyrim. what starfield would do is take bleak falls barrow and make identical copies on different planets, which is what the other anon was complaining about.

i think what most everyone wants is a star trek style game AKA a good open world game with stories like in star trek where things just go off the rails

>>717770472
Brainlet explains that there aren't people where people aren't

>>717770163
Sounds like cope to me

>>717770575
And since there are only a few megacities where everyone who escaped from the Earth lives, there should entire Skyrim worth of content packed into them. Instead they're like the smaller holds of Skyrim, you can count the quests on your fingers.

>>717770649
Many users found the fun for three digit hours and you didn't. Cope.

>>717770875
what what did yo find fun for three hours? whats fun about exploring the same buildings with the same layout and enemy placement for that long?

>>717770217
they have the same layout, assembled from the same bricks

Are they going to do a second DLC? Or did the first one flop so hard that they completely abandoned any future content outside Creationslop?
It's hard to find news on this shit.

>>717770875
You can't even consider yourself a Bethesda fan if you don't have at least 4 digit hours

>>717770805
Retard. There's just over 300 not including repeatables. If you spent any time in the megacities, direction to start them was literally added to your journal as NPCs or even the ad-blasters on neon mentioned them.

>>717770036
>I don't care about your proof, didn't even watch it in the first place
nta but holy retard

>>717742302
If it's co-op I could do it. I'm much more susceptible to slop when it's a friend laughing and bitching about it.

>>717770163
game is shit
they DIDNT HAVE THE ONLY FUN PART OF A SPACE EXPLORATION GAME
THE FUCKING SPACE EXPLORATION
its a loading screen simulator
this is why its mogged by NMS

>>717770959
Retard. You really played the filler content, ignored direction to any crafted content, and thought it was the whole game. Or you're a parrot and didn't p pay at all lmfao

>>717768032
The loading is pretty much instant on an m2 gen 5

>>717770875
>"Many users found the fun for three digit hours and you didn't. Cope."

>>717771113
oh i found the crafted content uts mostly underwhelming to trash

>>717771030
we were talking about copypasted skyrim caves, not starfield
so much for his "proof"
lmao no wonder those games always sell so well, all the retards buy it

>>717771012
Dlc 2 is coming with the p5 launch supposedly

>>717771358
And anon told you to find the Skyrim equivalent of it to prove him wrong if you're so lazy as to not download the game yourself to try (and fail) to prove the copypasted caves thing

>>717769903
The faction quests and their related dungeons were pretty good though

>>717741545 (OP)
>it's another thread where a zoomer is retarded for attention
Find real friends.

>>717771573
prove to me they are not copypasted then

>>717771025
>just over 300
Same method of counting as in Jew Vegas, where quests were broken up into several micro-quests that sent you from one NPC to another, and once you made the trek it would end the quest and start another.

Main quest: 21 steps interspersed with radiant slop
Crimson Fleet: 10
UC Vanguard: 14
Rangers: 8
Ryujin: 15
Trackers Alliance: 2, one of which ends the moment you first talk to their faction rep

Towns and space stations: 94
Various locations and companions: 27

TOTAL: 191, including quests that exist only to give you a map marker.

>>717771775
even daggerfall is lazily designed

>>717771775
You're the one that made the accusation, you're the one that needs to prove it true. Several anons have already told you they're not. The ball's in your park

>>717771775
You're such a fucked imbecile lmao

>>717771940
you claim they are not copypasted, don't be lazy and prove they are not
prove you're not a retard

>>717741545 (OP)
Shit smeared low casted Dravidian monkey thread

>>717772026
>anon cannot read
Many such cases. Sad!
You proved it yourself when linking uesp btw, plenty of pics there. That's called visual proof, unlike what you gave og anon

>>717772090
I don't know what any of that means and neither do you.

>>717772131
yeah like I thought, you're just some lazy fuck with nothing to back up your claims

>717772213 (You)
Oh well, I tried

>People sayed Starfield is not good game
>Play it
>One of best games I ever played
People sayed wrong

>>717772359
>retard has nothing to say when asked to back up his claims
as always

>>717741704
I got it for free alongside a new gpu and I still hated it. the game is like 50 hours of being mazed in copypaste garbage looking for the "good content". and then you find some actual bespoke side quest and it's so badly written you lose all hope for the turd of a game.

>>717742436
I never pretended it wasn't kino in the first place. I just kept getting shit on for liking it and saying I liked it, though

>>717742868
You couldn't be more wrong or brown
Negative reviews from long play times are the best to go by

>>717773923
This holds double true for games that released years ago and received some major overhaul updates that ruined them in the process.

I love starfield threads. They're so easy to troll on either side of the fence.

>>717776562
Does anyone waifu this lady

>>717776616
someone who likes WEGs probably does

>>717776562
It's not a Starfield-specific complaint, but it's about time the industry figured out clothes staining so that characters lying in a pool of their own blood don't look like they just had a fresh change of clothes.

>>717775367
I think it's just trolls trolling each other. Most people who genuinely like Starfield aren't on /v/ anymore. Maybe a sprinkle at /vg/ but they stopped taking bait there (and it's slower) so it's literally more fun to troll the trolls than anyone else.

>>717776616
Normies that trap themselves with her and then don't advance the main quest enough to be unable to tell her to fuck off. Andreja was better, she had sexo voice (game is still shit).

>>717776865
DAO figured it out 16 years ago

>>717776562
Jeet tier writing
>>717777777

>>717742094
You could just play The Count of Monte Clicker.

>>717776981
Trollception

>>717777983
This was retarded, I started the game a few months ago and could'nt stop laughing every time characters talked calmly while covered in blood from head to toe.

>>717776981
>I think it's just trolls trolling each other.
That's /v/ in general nowadays, anons insulted each other and shat on everything so much it became the culture of the board.

>>717779023
Sounds like a (You) issue

>>717741545 (OP)
I wanted to love this game. Even for someone who gets easily immersed in games, Starfield was just full of immersionbreaking shit

>>717769528
>I accept your concession on the other guy's behalf

>>717769634
Wonder why they didn't add mutated humans ala Killzone or genetically engineered humans and make them look a bit like elves for the lols like Banner/Crest of the Stars. Also, where's stuff like AI/Holograms when it's 300+ years from now. Even FO3/4 had synths, why not in Starfield? Weird decisions for this boring ass setting.

>>717741545 (OP)
It's the latest iteration of the same game Bethesda has been making progressively worse versions of for well over a decade.

>>717784717
>It's the latest iteration of the same game
It wishes

>is fact a bethesda game
>two years later
>most topics on loverslab are still about starfiled criticism or questions why there are no sex mods

grim, it might actually be ovyr

>>717741545 (OP)
It's a return to form for Bethesda and I'm having a blast

>>717741545 (OP)
I was honestly looking forward more to the Mods for this game than the game it's self. In a alternative reality this is the next Skyrim but in space but from what I've followed mods are lackluster and even veteran moders are not interested. Sad, I play on getting it when it's on a HYPER sale. They needed to keep the game in just 1 solar system, I think people underestimate how big space and planets could be.

Also
>Muh NASAPunk theme

I hate realism. It's a fucking video game, get wacky and crazy with the fantasy damn it. Pic realted, I think.

>>717741545 (OP)
>plebs being filtered by kino
you're surprised, op?

>>717741545 (OP)
>It's actually pretty good

>>717741545 (OP)
RELEASE IT ON PS5 ALREADY

>>717776562
DO NOT REDEEM SAARAH

>>717742427
Yes but you will get framestutter every 5 seconds or so

>>717741545 (OP)
daggefall did all the same shit but better

>>717741545 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INsc0CnXfq0

>>717786332
>veteran moders are not interested

A lot of veteran modders are professionals that are either commissioned and use it as a means to make money, or use it as a way to improve their portfolio. It's a much safer bet to go all in on Skyrim because 10 years from now you know plenty of people will still be modding and playing it, and, as a result, you'll be able top get a ton of work/engagement. Starfield probably won't be a thing in 10 years unless they really smash the next expansion, which I don't see happening.

>>717787158
What kind of autist watches 2 hours of some random retard spewing shit from his gutter mouth?

>>717776562
This looks like a screenshot from a Renpy WEG

>>717786737
Bros... Todd is looking old...

>>717787327
he highlights everything wrong in your shiny treasure

>>717741864
>How can anyone enjoy doing the same quests in the same locations over and over again for 40 hours?
Because they actually played the game and they don't just parrot opinions from clickbait youtubers. If you actually played the game you'd be doing side quests like the Space Pirate route (forgot the name) where you visit lots of new locations and a bunch of those locations are various ships. You do a heist on a large space cruiseliner and even eventually find a legendary lost ship with massive treasure.

>>717788028
>2 hours long
>he highlights
Obviously not

>>717768501
Skyrim caves may look similar, but they are not duplicates.

Too many replies for an unnecessarily hurtful topic

Play the game, if you like it, keep playing it. If not, stop playing.

I understand that some of you might have expected greater things from Bethesda, but try to be impartial about the enjoyment of a game. If you can conquer your biases and look at the game objectively, you may be able to extinguish yet another anguish within you caused by promises not kept.

This game might have not been the hit you expected from Bethesda, but if someone likes it for the RPG it is, let them unless they say stupid shit like HOW BF6 IS FUCKING RETURN TO FORM WHEN IT COULDN'T BE THE FURTHEST THING FROM IT WTF BFBC DIDN'T HAVE PRONE AND EVEN THAT DIDN'T FEEL THIS COD-Y EVERYONE IS A FUCKING IDIOT DEMOCRACY WAS A MISTAKE

>>717787158
>Evil companies only exist to milk the most diehard fans of their money
>Thanks for watching and join my patreon

>>717788939
> The RPG that it is.
That was one of the problems. They had all but perfected the open world ARPG formula. Then they fucked up trying to make into an RPG.

it's a bad video game, and a bad RPG

Starfield is not good. I say this as a (former) Bethesda shill.

I liked Starfield but only because I'm a massive autistic faggot who plays open world games for the views. Like just exploring and finding perfect vistas to look at. I will spend hours landing in different places to get the perfect shot of a planet rise beyond a mountain range, or a nice canyon to build a base in.

I think they really fucked up the story by making you able to be friends with every faction at once. If there were permanent consequences to your actions, then you'd have a reason to do the new game plus mechanic the whole plot is built around.

>>717789359
Play modded Starbound instead.

>>717789595
>"I like looking at gorgeous environments"
>"here play this 2D pixelshit"

>>717789359
NG+ is the dumbest thing they could have done.
Here is a way to build incredibly complex and interconnected bases that span the galaxy.
Here is a way to customize your ship in a trillion different ways.
Here is a way to gather a crew to fit your playstyle.
Here are a multitude of homes for you to customize.

By the way if you play the game as intended have fun doing all this 10 times.

>>717789948
yes

>>717789359
I've visited over a 100 of planets at this stage and WOW... the lack of visual variety is something almost remarkable... planetscapes are more often than not totally flat, everything is the same distance apart, their is a serious lack of colour or depth. I wasn't surprised upon landing on a planet one single time, where there some pretty locations ? Yeah but they were not the norm, they felt like the occasion handcrafted map in a sea of lackluster proc gen.

>>717788535
Indeed

>>717790375
Not to mention you can't change your Traits on NG+ cycles, and they somehow missed the fact people love the early game the most in their vidya. They read "people have been playing Skyrim for a decade" and interpreted it as people doing that all in one character and not starting a new one, getting to level 20, stopping, creating a new one, rinse and repeat. Being early game using steel swords and leather armor is what most people are familiar with, they don't give a shit about playing Starfield on NG+7 at level 120.

>>717789948
This unironically looks better than Basedfield

>>717791493
As someone who likes all these games for different reasons, they learned all the long lessons from Skyrim, Fallout 4, 76 going into Starfield.

>>717791493
Who restarts in a Bethesda game? If you do restart ,Why?

The last cope of the shitbox cult.

>>717791705
...who doesn't? People are always starting new characters with new races, new builds, new mods, new roleplays

>>717791815
Why? I don't see the point of starting a new character and retreading the same ground over and over.
If you enjoy that more power to you but it seems a gigantic waste of time.

>>717791705
I've never beaten Oblivion or Skyrim.
The longest I've played a single character in Skyrim was when I did the Bard's Guild quest (I'm pretty sure it's singular) then naturally happened into the Dawnguard and Dragonborn DLC.
In Fallout 3 I'd make a character and do one quest (eg. Stealing Independence) and then make a new character afterwards. Although to be fair I played with 5x spawn mods and new enemies and the mod that added vertibird dropships etc. so downtown DC was literally a warzone.
In Fallout 4 I averaged out at level 30 before I start a new character.

>>717791815
To add.
Have they shown what percent of people have gone through the unity in starfield?
I can't imagine it is a large number. The prospect of having to rebuild everything on a forced new playthrough must have been off putting.

>>717792145
Odd way to play but I am glad you had fun.

>>717741545 (OP)
Even Fo76 is better than this. The pointless design and hollow world continuously exhausts your sanity and it peaks when you find the shitty temples where you have to grab those floating crack.

>>717790719
That game was arguably a bigger disappointment than Starfield. I mean it was supposed to be Terraria in space and Starfield was supposed to be Skyrim in space.

Maybe space games are just doomed to be shit.

>>717791990
It's __________________________________fun__________________________________

>>717792250
Steam states 19.8% of people have the 'One Giant Leap' achievement you get for completing the last main quest

I'll will play this when I don't have absolutely nothing going on in the year and just want to time skip a few weeks.

>>717741545 (OP)
It was basically the same for me. I installed it from game pass and started playing, nearly raged and quit because Mars is cursed with the shittiest quests, then grew to like it. When I play it's basically like a fancier modern Freelancer. Much like Freelancer the writing is dumb and the action's arcadey but it's a relaxing space adventure sandbox to kill an hour here and there

>>717793463
The info is from 2023 from what I can tell.
Did they stop tracking Starfield or is that normal?

>>717793463
Some people just enjoy familiar repetition I guess.

>>717741545 (OP)
I somehow put 200 hours into this game without feeling like I'd actually done anything. Starfield is not fun.