Thread 717752372

Iwata pushed Nintendo back tho

pretending to be nostalgic about the iwata era is peak nintendo derangement syndrome

the wii and ds fucking SUCKED if these games released today the pajeets shitting all over /v/ would call them worthless garbage

>>717752418
>>717752553
Iwata wasn’t always the president, retards. Go play any classic Nintendo game you think was from their “good” era and watch the credits closely.

>>717752372 (OP)
It was because of Iwata that people say that "Nintendo is for grandmas and children". I miss the Yamauchi era. That's what the real Nintendo was supposed to be like.
>Fuck square and fuck Sony.
>Play our games or fuck off.
That's the good stuff.

Iwata was the one sucking the soul out retard. NSMB, Mario 3D World, the car Mario Parties, Paper Mario Sticker Star, Luigi's mansion 2, all designed under him. He was the one homogenizing all their games. Just look at the music for games during the Wii U, almost every single Nintendo game started using the same bland Jazz style music. How is that soul?

>>717752889
How dare Nintendo focus on the family instead of wiggers and brownies like Sony and Microsoft did.

white people try not bring up race for 4 seconds challenge

>>717752372 (OP)
NDF really hates when you bring this up. So what if their games are released and instantly forgotten selling >1m units. They sell gangbusters and that is hotcakes.

>>717753004
Compare the Wii U menu to the Switch and you can see how much SOVL there was during the superior Iwata days.

>>717753009
He wasn't focusing on the "family" though. He was focusing on the kids. A family has adults and Iwata didn't give one fuck about the adult audience. If you weren't 8 years old or younger Iwata's content was worthless.

>>717752835
what was iwata's role in yoshi's island, super metroid, mario 64, ocarina of time and majora's mask, metroid prime and twilight princess? dilate

>>717753093
>muh menu
kys

>>717753093
They would obviously prefer a more complex menu. They simplified it not for design reasons but for hardware. A simpler home menu uses less RAM which can then be used for the games. They've even started to finally fix UIs in games, Donkey Kong's pause menu is fantastic.

>>717753115
>He was focusing on the kids.
Video games are toys.

>>717753183
People who post here have zero self awareness of themselves

The same people that call "normies" cucks think videogames are not toys

>>717753115
There has never been a single solitary video game made for adults.

>>717753183
Are books toys? Are movies toys? Should my DVD player include motion controls to be wacky? It makes no sense for a video game console to function as a toy because it's way too fucking expensive for that. Toys should be 20 bucks not 400.

>>717753293
>Should my DVD player include motion controls to be wacky?
Why would you add interactivity to a non-interactive medium? You're really desperate to sound like you have a point, anon.

>>717753362
Why not make it interactive? There's as much reason for a DVD player to have a gimmick as a video game console, as in no reason. There is literally no benefit to adding some stupid gimmick to a video game system. It just makes games worse, there is not and has never been any benefit.

>>717753454
>Why not make it interactive?
Because movies aren't interactive, anon. If you make it interactive, then you don't have a movie, you have a video game. Are you seriously this dumb?

>>717752372 (OP)
Wii/DS era is Zoomer's formative years.
You think that defines Nintendo, but to everybody else it was one of the most boring and parental versions of the company ever, always talking down to you like you didn't understand anything, and even the games treating you like a toddler asking you to take breaks every 15 minutes or explaining what's right in front of you with characters like Fi or that fucking suitcase in Mario & Luigi Dream Team.

Iwata isn't Nintendo. He led them in their years of innovative gimmicks and I love the Nintendo DS, but the reason I love it is only barely because of Nintendo First Party content, but what third parties came up with for Dual Screen ideas and Touch Screen stuff, like Sonic Rush, Hotel Dusk, or Madworld.

The current version of Nintendo strangely reminds me of Gameboy era Nintendo. I kept thinking "gameboy" when I was playing DK Bananza. I can't quite explain it but it's refreshing to see Nintendo just do different unexpected things lately.

>>717752889
Literally this. People lost the context by today, but Nintendo WAS the premier publisher at one point. The whole "Nintendo Seal of Approval" fiasco was because Nintendo had dominance with the NES, so essentially they were the Steam of the 80s and 90s, but then Sega challenged that, like Epic games.
They had all the most cutting edge and impressive console games for a long time, and then N64 held up in hardware/performance but the weird controller and Cartridge limits fucked them, on top of other publishers getting larger and becoming sick of Nintendo thinking of themselves as the Market Leader.

But they were the Market Leader once, and it sure wasn't like that under Iwata.

>>717752372 (OP)
Being autistically litigious about IP law breeds only soullessness.
It creates a corporation in service only to its legal and marketing teams.

>>717753093
I guess Wii U owners would be used to staring at the menu for hours on end instead of playing games.

>>717754078
Yeah. It's such a shame Nintendo crystalized as that kind of company. Back around the N64 it still did feel like they were evolving, but that's really when they solidified the "we're only doing these 5 things over and over" basically.

>all the "actually bananza is a great game" posters itt
Very organic you shill fucks

mork threads should be banned

>>717755398
I know that you're still asshurt about us making fun of astroturf but this doesn't work for bananza because people actually like this game, sorry sister

Almost all of these “video essays” are made by uninformed dipshits with nostalgia goggles grafted to their faces. Iwata was a great man, but he had his fair share of faults as a businessman that people just ignore for the sake of making the situation seem bleaker than it is.

Under Iwata’s leadership, Nintendo still took down fan projects, had a policy that restricted you from posting gameplay of their titles online without a loicense, thrust themselves into an era of stagnation in their most beloved franchises, and slowed their production of new games to a crawl due to their lack of foresight into how difficult HD development would be.

I’m willing to call Nintendo out for being annoying with their draconian copyright enforcement and pricing strategies, but neither of these things are new for the company. Hell, I’d say Nintendo is doing better in a lot of ways since Iwata’s death: they’ve finally figured out how to keep their niche franchises alive and consistent, they’re releasing games at a breakneck pace all the time, and they’ve loosened up a lot with their stances on online creators. I don’t see their legal team easing up on emulation or fan projects anytime soon though

>>717755982
Tranime faggot, I know your only defending modern Nintendo because they make Xenoslop and Fire Shitblem.

>>717753004
>added multiplayer back into a Mario game

Based. Thank you for the great examples.

the iwata era was the miis, new super mario bros, wii sports and fit, brain training and nintendogs, other m and skyward sword and galaxy 2 being sold with a tutorial cd where a condescending voiceover explained that pushing the analog stick moved mario around

I know that this horrible third worlder infested cesspit just wants to seethe about nintendo nonstop and will adopt the most contrarian attitude possible to do so but there's no way anyone who lived through the "touch generation" blue ocean era thinks it was better than current nintendo

>>717756137
Xenoblade was personally greenlit by Iwata

>>717756269
Yeah the first one, the one that’s not anime garbage (at least until the Shitch version)

those frozen MP eva marios are incredibly upsetting

>>717753974
>At one point

They still are the premier game dev studio.

Iwata era was the low point of nintendo, kimishima was more based than furukawa but thats it

>>717756317
Unless you’re exclusively referring to its art style, Xenoblade 1 is heavily inspired by anime. The story carries over a lot of tropes from traditional shounen serials.

But back to your original point, yes, I will praise Nintendo for giving series like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem larger role in their catalog in the same way I’ll praise them for giving Metroid, F-Zero, DK, Famicom Detective Club, and Another Code love.

I appreciate a wide catalog of games to play as compared to the narrower focus on 3-4 franchises (Mario, Zelda, Smash, Pokemon) they had fallen into during the late Wii/Wii U period.

And besides, the prevalence of their more niche games hasn’t affected the release cadence for their bigger titles at all. They’re developed by different teams within the company.

>>717756269
Also got stiffled by his underlings in NoA under his watch. The man pretty much left the Wii to flounder in its last years, and then had nothing to show for the Wii U once it released.

>>717756317
>Shitch
Is this thread just Eric falseflagging as some nostalgic wiifag?

>>717756460
Yeah, but they're not the market leader at all since the Gamecube.
You only understand it if you do. Think of Sony during the PS4 and how that was the "main" console. All third parties developing their premier games to it, or to PC. It's a bit different nowadays because development is centralized and consoles and PC tend to follow the same gap of processing power. Until the PS3 days there was mostly a huge difference to the PC market, getting games you didn't on console and vice versa, and in the console space, PlayStation became the top dog on PS1/PS2, then the top dog became Microsoft with the Xbox 360 for a while.
But before that it was Nintendo for the longest time, and Sega had a spurt but it died out fast again as Nintendo returned to dominance.
At that time the impression of Nintendo wasn't the same as now where it was "They're the ones making super fun, intuitive, innovative games".
Zelda was seen like you see God of War or The Last of Us back then. It was seen as a "cutting edge" experience.
And while you can sorta say that for Breath of the Wild it does come with the caveat that it had framerate issues and it was only impressive in spite of knowing the Switch was basically a slightly improved PS3 level of hardware.

Nintendo were seen as the utmost prestige at one point, the head of the graphics horsepower race, and they haven't since the Wii, because the N64 and Gamecube did so poorly with third party that Nintendo had to abandon direct competition.

>>717753004
>NSMB, Mario 3D World
Found the piplup social media faggot. Pac-Man championship dx is still goated you loser

>>717756317
Iwata greenlit xenoblade 2 and had them promise a year one release

>>717756857
>They're not the market leader

Lol

lmao

>>717753183
Dildos are toys, you would give them to your kids, right anon?

>>717752372 (OP)
Learning about this guy made me cry so many times

> tfw you’ll never have the respect like how Sakurai feels for Iwata, because you’re country doesn’t appreciate hard honest work