Thread 717797689

Will 0.3 fix everything or kill the game for good?

>>717797689 (OP)
I don't care I quit after 1 week of that god awful game. Never have I seen a game that was created with no fun even druckman blushed

>>717798398
Come on now, the game is more fun than TLoU...

>>717797689 (OP)
If swords or axes are added, yes. Any more wizardry or dexterity bullshit, no.

>>717797689 (OP)
Most overjoyed pile of shit ever. Even Diablo 4 is unironically way better. All the shitters who hyped POE2 are now silent. Pathetic.

>>717798446
>swords will be dex req

>>717798398
>>717798438
>>717798446
>>717798505
lol filtered

>>717798446
The two rumored classes right now are Druid or Shadow.

Druid is mostly fire magic and then transformation skills, so STR/INT
Shadow is DEX/INT and uses traps/daggers.

Sadly swords you have to wait for Duelist (STR/DEX) and Axes are Marauder (STR).

>>717798540
like 90% of the player base who quit lmao

>>717797689 (OP)
Poop of Excrement 2

>>717797689 (OP)
as one of the few who enjoys PoE2 what are the odds they actually complete it before all interest dies? them trying to juggle fixing/completing 2 while also continuing constant regular support for 1 seems unsustainable.

>>717798554
How much are the poe2 skills similar to poe? Never played the original, are they different or ports from poe?

>>717797689 (OP)
What will they even add this time?
>another class with incomplete skill gems
>2 or 3 missing ascendancy
>REHASHED Poo1 league mechanics
>more endgame shit and ultra uniques
That's it?

>>717798779
Some of them are kind of straight up ports (Arc, Spark, etc) but there are basically no strike skills anymore. I'd say the spells are more similar than the attacks.

>>717798785
Right now the main rumors are:

>Druid or Shadow
>Act IV
>Trials of the Ancestors for a 3rd option to ascend
>A few new ascendancies
>Rework of bad ascendancies (Chaos Monk)
>Rebalance of most skills/support gems
>Rebalance of the tree

The thing is that it would be an even bigger patch than 0.2 if that is the case, feels like too much copium.

Not playing til it's free

>>717799123
I got a code for free :) I spent hundreds on PoE1

I played 5 different characters in merc league so i'm keep to play 2 now. I skipped .2 because it looked bad. Hopefully they add something worth playing because i didn't like .1

>>717799290
Let me tell you anon: You made the right decision skipping 0.2

Its release was horrible. It took like 12 patches to become playable and by then I had already quit. It was dreadful. Hopefully they learned their lesson for 0.3

>>717799009
arn't they supposed to be going to Karui land in act 4?
kinda weird they would add Druid or Shadow instead of something like Marauder

>>717798554
Im excited for druid, but I feel like it'll be so transformations are useless

I want flails so damn bad

>>717799453
Yeah act 4 is supposed to be Karui stuff. But Druid is the last of the characters shown off prerelease to not be added yet. People are talking about Shadow because GGG went out of their way to use his model for promotional material, but in all likelihood it is just Druid.

>>717799490
I dislike how they were shown off prerelease. It was just constantly transforming in and out of human to bear form. I wanna stay in bear or wolf or rhoa or whatever form, not go in and out every 10 seconds.

Tencent shill thread

>>717799453
I think it will be marauder because his ascends will just be poe1 ascends for the most part, i don't think it will be act 4 though

>>717799602
makes sense I guess, why make something completely new if you already got some half finished stuff laying around

they give any ETA on 0.3 release?

>>717799815
I think they're doing the big presentation near the end of this month, so 2 weeks after that.

>>717799815
like the 29th or something

>>717799859
>>717799885
awesome
thanks anons

>>717797689 (OP)
Imagine taking this long to add what is arguably the most popular and famous weapon type in history. How many legendary swords are there compared to legendary maces? Or axes? or spears? There's probably more legendary swords in human folklore than legendary every other weapons combined. 2nd place is probably the bow.

>>717797689 (OP)
Who knows, there's alot of issues that make it unplayable
>slow movement speed, slow animations, boring one dimensional builds, defensive balance issues (life/es)
>controller still shit and bugged, no way to swap weapon set in inventory, shitty console UI even on PC, auto-aim can't be turned off, input lag with inventory management, mapping, etc
>tabs are garbage, they added a ton of runes with no spaces for them
>no crafting
>no interesting end game mechanics

I think I'll just wait another year unless at least theres a fix for all the shit in the first two points and a new mechanic that isn't just taken straight from poe1. I want a new rpg not a rehash of something I've played 2000 hrs

I'll play it once it leaves early access

>>717797689 (OP)
Poop Of Excrement II

>>717798740
0. There might be a bump in interest at 1.0 but unless there are major changes/overhauls I don't see them bringing in any new players to replace the steady loss due to their constant fuck ups.

Is the game still the same trash forcing you to "prime" enemies with a skill before using the skill you actually want to use? This shit sucks ass. If they want us to use multiple skills just add shit like immunities to particular elements or dots or something. Forcing us to use the best tool for the job. No "Use this skill first otherwise the 2nd skill is not gonna do damage"

poop2 will never be a good game

>>717800105
https://youtu.be/Nqb1yu0Ck_I?si=ulew254FSDsgNrlG

I like it, but its takign too late to update because of splitting their time. Fuck PoE1, even the biggest fan must be bored of it by now. Sunset it and focus on your new game you absolute retards, and add swords dickheads

>>717799602
I just want to play druid for nature magic. If the magic skills are tied to comboing with a transformation this game is dead to me

>>717800373
SHIT build hehe

>take poe1
>make boring campaign even longer and more annoying
>add dodgerolling tedium
>but it turns into poe1 in the endgame
>except with all the content, qol, and cool shit removed

>>717799290
0.2 was a mess because of a series of unfortunate events
>Bafflingly, for no reason, campaign Exalt Orb drop rate was trashed compared to 0.1 so you couldn't reliably make your own gear as they said the intent was
>This led to a mass poe1 tradie meltdown until GGG was forced to relent, massively buffing droprates and ruining the campaign (even in Act 1 yellows drop like candy now and are meaningless)
>POE1 tradies hate POE2 for being a good game so they en masse ran Lightning Spear Huntress, which is OP as hell and is a one-button ranged screenclearer that gears very easily
>POE1 tradies then complain about bad build diversity because they latched onto a blatantly overpowered build
basically POE1 tradeniggers genuinely despise POE2 for being a fun ARPG, then GGG threw gasoline on the fire with the exalted orb nerf, resulting in them being forced to cuck out and ruin the entire game's drops
POE2's only hope is for GGG to stealth nerf loot

>>717801104
GGG just needs to keep up some low-effort key-jangling tier leagues for PoE 1 to keep them distracted. Either that or just have PoE 2 block all accounts with more than 1k hours in PoE 1 unless a decent chunk of that is on ruthless.

>>717801104
this is what i'd think if i was a insane poop2turd

>>717801104
this is some grade A schizo copium, lmao

poe2 a shit, check back in a few years if at all

chris left for a reason

>>717797689 (OP)
It's a poorly designed game, and GGG don't have the talent or balls to actually fix it. PoE1 never got better (only more bloated), and PoE2 won't either. It's not a matter of more content or revising a few prickly systems, the core of the game is at odds with itself.

They should remove IIR.
Increased loot should only come from increased difficulty.
Also they should remove the absolute shitstain of an atlas and replace it with the one that's actually good from PoE1

>>717801104
Tell GGG to come up with some ORIGINAL content for PoE2 then. Of course people whine about speed when Breach and Delirium are two of the end game systems lmao.

>>717797689 (OP)
im looking forward to the update every new patch makes the game better and i like it more and more

>>717802109
Honestly I agree with this. They really did pick two of the worst league mechanics to start with.
I feel like it all comes down to the fact that they needed another 1.5 to 2 years to develop the game. They released way too damn early.

>>717802792
They absolutely did, and I am not sure why.
Was it Tencent breathing down their necks making them commit to the 2024 release date?
Was it their own financials? Going by available public data they were totally fine.
Was it Jonathon deciding that nothing would get done unless it was released into early access and they would continue to spin their wheels?

I honestly do not know. Either way 12-16 months more of development would have done wonders for the game, now I fear for it being developed while PoE1 has active development on it.

I won't give a shit until all weapons are added. Not playing it until then.

The campaign should be 5-10 hours max, it should not take 20+. If it absolutely must be that long, and only excuse i would remotely accept is some bullshit reason like code or engine fuckery (in which case id say fire the fucking designers), make the campaign skipable after the first clear.

the game is too fucking slow and filled with tedious crap that at the same time has every good idea from poe1 removed or actively designed against, looking at you no movement skills.

>>717802109
Tota ain't a good choice for a mechanic so all the rumors that they're putting that dogshit in has me worried. Not sure what their obsession is with making ascension this long-winded end game area you need to do repeatedly. It's annoying enough having to do sanctum 1 time or ultimatum 1 time. Also that brings up another issue that poe1 solved by having a trivial campaign - there's no campaign skips
D2 had great longevity because it was trivial to get to end game each ladder. No one gives a shit about your epic le darkness swept the land narrative after the first go round

>>717803032
They did say they are reworking some of the campaign maps to be smaller, at least. Act 3 is absolutely atrocious because of that shit.

They refused to commit to slow-paced gameplay and the Dark Souls vibe. Instead they defaulted to POE1 thinking--endless swarms of trash with pitiful drop rates. If they wanted to be Dark Souls they needed to drastically slash the amount of enemies and boosto the shit out of the drop rates. There you go: a slower, more methodical POE. but RMT rangrangs threw the biggest fucking meltie over the prospect of all their digital beanie babies becoming worthless, and ggg listened to them instead of ignoring them. god i hate RMT tradies.

>>717803117
>she believed the souls larp was anything more than a larp to attract initial tourists
>she thought the game would actually be soulshit forever
LOL

>>717802896
honestly not having a lot of the weapons really limits the build varieties
still having fun though, just wish there was more

>>717802993
I disagree

stop tying every fucking skill to a specific weapon

>>717803360
Sequels are supposed to improve and/or innovate on the previous title, please explain how the fuck slowing EVERYTHING down, setting loot to ruthless as a baseline, gutting crafting, and removing proven system solutions such as the crafting bench make poe2 good?

>>717803604
I disagree with having a zoomzoom meaningless campaign. I like the campaign and losa interest at the endgame, so I would prefer a longer campaign. Also instead of an endgame at all, I prefer like some other APRGs where you play through it again on higher difficulty, but obviously they wouldn't change it to that in poe.

>I don't want to run through the campaign zones 3 times
>I want to run the same map layout 3000 times
Mental illness.

>>717803117
>They refused to commit to slow-paced gameplay and the Dark Souls vibe
they literally never said that is was always going to be this in fact in multiple interviews both jonathan and mark stated that they want the endgame to be more like poe1, also they said that if what they want doesn't work they will just change it.

>>717803604
poe1 ruthless loot is at least 100000000x worse than poe2 loot, poe2 is a loot explosion by comparison. you seriously need to play poe1 ruthless and realize that poe2 is genuinely nothing like it.

>>717803827
the funny thing is that was the original plan, poe2 was supposed to be a different campaign instead of a whole new game, 5+ years of bloat later and here we are.

sorry for assuming we were on the same page, iv played for over a decade with 5000+ hours of poe1, the campaign for me is nothing but a speedbump to get into mapping and currency making, an annoyance at best. simple an option to skip it after your first or fifth or 100th clear would be real fucking welcome here.

>>717797689 (OP)
I enjoy both PoE 1 and 2 and am looking forward to the 0.3 update
I hope they make spells that are good.

>>717804081
>I hope they make spells that are good.
Bad news for ya buddy, no weapon or meta changes comming in 0.3, its lightning spear game all over again

>>717804005
nta but i agree, i personally don't mind a longer campaign but i feel like everything would feel so much better for literally everyone if you could skip the campaign after your first character.

>>717804314
I've always maintained that they should just keep waypoints account wide once you unlock them in the league. That way characters still have to go through the campaign but with some twink gear + waypoints you'd be done in like 2 hours even for bad players.

>>717804005
Yea ok it might get boring after 5000hours of it true :)

I'm more of a reroller anyway, I get to a certain point of a character'sdevelopment and just want to try something else, PoE2 is a bit lacking in that expermienting with builds department compared to 1. Mechanically though I prefer it, I think it just feels better to play and more satisfying to kill stuff. And visually, if that matters, its better than anything else similar.

>>717804427
It needs better crafting.

>>717804363
this is a good idea too, theres genuinely a lot of ways to make a longer campaign work but ggg is too far up their own ass about everything to just throw the players a bone sometimes. i genuinely don't think they understand that people WANT to play more than one character but they are basically encouraged not too. i reroll a lot cause i like doing specialized builds for specific content and still do in poe2 but damn does it get exhausting.

>>717797689 (OP)
Are the trials still a pain in the ass to run for ascendancies?

>>717804561
I originally was someone who said you should be able to skip the campaign, but after playing Diablo IV I realized it is actually a bad idea and kills your game. Mapping from level 1 would be miserable and by the time you even had a build together you'd be burnt out and there would be no "endgame" just a game.
However, I also agree that it is ridiculous that the campaign is so long when you're rerolling, which is why I think the waypoint system is a better idea. It still creates a delineation between the campaign and end game but speeds it up while still creating a market for lower level items and uniques.
But yeah, just like with the currency exchange change is gonna come super slow. At least in PoE1 you can use quicksilver flasks and get like 70% MS from level 5 or w/e, in PoE2 it is so annoying to do the campaign again.

There was an elegant post dismantling the gameplay sytems in PoE2 at how contradictory they were to each other, I wish I saved it. But one example is definitely the "Parry" mechanic that is more work than it's worth and still cant top ES stacking.

>>717804705
They've nerfed them to the point that they're not so bad but are still annoying. 0.3 might be adding the 3rd way to ascend via Trials of the Ancestors which is a pseudo auto-battler mode.

>>717804731
Parrying is retarded, yes. And so is active blocking, everyone just builds passive block. You can't be expected to stop attacking to parry/block when 10000 rape monsters are charging you. Also ES is hilariously broken in PoE1 and 2. Keeping ES on the tree while removing health was fucktarded.

charms shouldn't be an automatic thing at least for the ailment ones. just make it so that if you get ignited you can now choose to press the ignite charm to get rid of it. it will make them feel more like flasks in poe1 but without the piano flasking. stuff like the magic finding charm or even unique ones like beira's can still be automatic.

>>717804713
>Mapping from level 1 would be miserable
i call fucking bullshit, and they have already had a ton of events that tested this, one of the most fun that comes to mind was the only mines challenge. i played that shit non stop and came out of it with 4 95+ characters

poe1 with only mapping would be a dream come true for me and so many others

No Druid, no play.

>>717800373
no idea why he's running. his shield never dropped all the way

Despite having a lot of problems with it -- I really disliked 0.2 because the meta and drop changes -- I still like PoE2's gameplay 10x more than PoE1. The game is extremely fun, it just needs more content and more fleshed out itemization + crafting. I'm super excited for 0.3 but I don't want hopium for act 4 to disappoint me.

>>717807492
i feel the exact same, the fact that dm went to ggg and said its bigger than 0.2 and hes doing a subathon which he didnt do for the launch of poe2 proves its a big patch

>>717807492
This. Even in its current half baked state, I still find PoE2s core better than PoE.

>>717797689 (OP)
This game was a rugpull years in the making between GGG and Asmongold. I suspected something was fishy when years ago I saw Asmongold randomly playing POE1 on his stream despite never playing or talking about ARPGs before. I suspect that GGG gifted Asmongold a boosted POE1 account and paid him to play and talk about the game a little bit on his stream in order to establish himself as an voice of authority on ARPGs. This was cemented in 2023 when Diablo 4 launched and Asmon devoted the final stream on his main channel to playing the game on release day for a massive audience. He then spent the better part of a year milking "D4 bad" content while simultaneously hyping up POE2 as the D4 killer and the potential best ARPG of all time. This was all in service to craft a perfect narrative to try and brand POE2 as the next Elden Ring or Baldurs Gate 3, a legendary game that would stand head and shoulders above the competition. GGG knew that they were incapable of crafting such a game and that their early access release would be underwhelming, but when they saw Asmongold's ability to near single-handedly boost a game's launch figures to astronomical heights, they knew they could leverage that to cash in on so many pre-orders and week 1 sales that they wouldn't have to spend years grinding away on the game post-launch like they did for POE1. The rugpull was confirmed when the founder of the company stepped down just one month after early access launched. He and Asmongold played you for fools, and now Asmongold never plays or talks about the game. It's on to the next rugpull.

I just want it to be free so I can play with my friends already.

>>717797689 (OP)
>drip feeding content to a game sold at full price
They can fuck off until the full release. Especially when they can't balance for shit.

>>717807689
get a flippin job stupid shark!

>>717808238
Its not like I cant afford to throw 15-60 bucks for a couple keys, but there's no guarantee my friends will like it and Id feel silly flushing 60 bucks down the drain.

>>717808408
Do they like poe1? poe2 is for people that didn't like poe1

>>717809452
i have 2.3k hours in poe1 and i like poe2, so youre wrong.

>>717797689 (OP)
The only thing that will fix PoE2 is if they stop releasing new leagues for PoE1.

Wtf is getting magnified? There's no aoe on this skill, is there?

>>717797689 (OP)
all GGG needed to do is zoom out the camera and give us better graphics/visibility. That's it. Instead it is "hey guys what if we took out everything good about poe1 for poe2 and made it objectively worse in every single way except graphics and music?!" "hey, lets FORCE players to play the shittiest 2 mechanics in the game (ultimatum and sanctum) wouldn't that be great?!" "what if we made the most unfun ARPG campaign experience in the history of gaming?!" Jonathan is a straight up masochist, are they even playing the same fucking game we are? Who boots up Poo2 and goes "wow this is so much fun", in the small amount of time i wasted playing that bullshit I dropped like 10 orbs of currency in 3 acts. 1000% mana siphon nerfs.... do they even playtest their own game or do they rely on us guinea pigs to do it? faggots

>>717810717
If theres no AOE skill then it wont magnify anything, whats your confusion?

>>717810717
one of the skeletons attacks is a cleave, so itll work on that but not their auto attack

>>717810929
Then it shouldnt even be an option.

>>717811085
>Then it shouldnt even be an option.
the problem with this is there is precedent for being able to change minions minions attacks to be aoe in poe1. the game is incomplete we don't know what is suppose to work and what isn't because a lot of shit in the game is working on the assumption that there will be something later to support it.

>>717810805
>PoE2
>Bad visibility
>Masturbates over PoE1

what the fuck kind of substances are you on? stop it

Diablo as a whole is still more enjoyable.

>>717813086
anon please.... d4 is how many seasons in and its still filled with bugs, lacks qol features from previous games, runs like shit, is loaded with mtx out the ass, AND STILL DOESNT HAVE FUCKING DIABLO IN IT

granted, d1 d2 were perfect, d3 was ok with co-op right after reaper of souls then fell off, but d4 has been a pile of shit from the start. even the graphics, its best quality, is still sub par when compared to other arpgs.

People still having negative opinions of PoE2, huh?

I think I'll stick to PoE1 for now then. Maybe it's best to wait till PoE2 is fully released (probably march next year).

Still super excited about PoE2 though, despite all the criticism. I saw some streams of the game and I see plenty of issues, but the base of the game seems great, especially how it looks and how slower and more difficult it is.

endless baal runs really ruined an entire generation of gamers.

>plays so much better than poe 1 at launch
>fucked with the balancing until it sucks

Honestly at this point i'll just wait till 1.1 (1.0 will be fucked i feel it in my bones)

>>717798517
Swords are dex/str

>>717798554
>druid is mostly fire
>stormspells
>mostly fire

>>717798740
I reckon it'll take at least 3 more leagues until it fully releases, if all goes as planned and each league is 4 months, it'll be at least a year counting from next release until game launches, if all the leagues show good progress and aren't shitshows like 0.2 (doubtful) game might survive until release.

>>717801104
If they wanna do loot right then go back to .1 loot rate and fucking remove discovery

>>717800373
Wait a minute... this is just PoE1 with slower running.
Whatever happened to le meaningful combat?

>>717816850
They backtracked because poe1 players threw at fit at something new, you can still see glimpses of what it was supposed to look at in the count Geonor fight

>>717797689 (OP)
so is the game finna be free for everyone or nah?

>>717817687
It will be free (on full release (2027))

>>717816850
the 'meaningful' combat was for bossing, and that was only meant for the first few times you fight the boss.
originally it was '2 campaigns 1 endgame' but poe 1 is too old so the broke poe 2 off into its own thing.

>>717818125
ONE GAME
TWO CAMPAIGNS
TWO BIG SHITS

>>717797689 (OP)
>>717798740
TWO MORE WEEKS and poe2 will be dead for good! Super cereal right now!!

You faggots were whining word for word the same exact shit back when Poe1 was in open beta. I wish you many, many nerfs to always find your builds

Rarity affecting currency was a mistake

>>717797689 (OP)
>3 new acts
>a class
>new trial
>better maps
>hundreds of new skills and supports
>can use the same support on multiple skills
It will save the game

>>717807629
>assgold
literally who? gtfo here with your e-celeb drama. nobody that aint terminally online know who these random wankers are

>>717818876
>One singular class
nice 6 months EA bro, it's totally gonna release before 2050

>>717803604
they improve the game by pissing off faggots like (you). forcing you to rage quit and disappear back into the hole your crawled out off

>>717819036
>Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
>“As long as needed. We believe it will be at least 6 months.”

>>717798554
sounds extremely fucking gay
>no melee based class
>no templar
>no berserker/barb
yeah, gonna be a hard pass from me famalamadingdong

game's dogshit until they add an auction house

>>717801104
poe2 will be fine. trade niggers have always bitched and moaned no matter what you do. If the devs really wanted to fuck them in the ass they would ban trade all together and leave only SSF. Poe1 is actually in the best spot as a SSF game as progression feels natural and meaningful. Flip side is that it would be deader then grim dawn without all the bots buffing up the active player base

>>717799534
Flails will be even worse and even slower than maces

SSF in Last Epoch is great but the problem is that game has basically nothing to do except the Abberoth treadmill

>>717819239
>Flip side is that it would be deader then grim dawn without all the bots buffing up the active player base
If you were actually a ssf player like you pretend you are, you wouldn't give a fuck because YOU DON'T PLAY WITH ANYONE YOU IDIOT

>>717819394
play hc and see how far you can get on a rogue
my record is 91 @ 150 corruption

>>717818876
>hundreds of new skills and supports
how many of them will be usable tho?

>>717797689 (OP)
>0.3
Can we wait til 1.0 comes out before we start with the constant shitposting?

discord tranny game

>>717820480
between 2 and 4 of them, while every other gem that was remotely playable in 0.2 gets gutted completely

>>717807564
No it doesn't. It proves ggg paid him and they both want money

>>717798779
Some similar/same , some new , the variety of skills in not the isue
the issue is they r weapon locked , so u end up feeling like ur playing a weapon instead of a class, like in the new world mmo

>>717797689 (OP)
6 acts or fuck off

>>717802993
nah fuck your zooming around maps at mach 3
fuck off back to poe1

>>717798740
"completing" ?? there is no completing , its a live service game .
If u mean getting to a state similar to poe 1 , its a feedback loop of impossibility as long as both are being earnestly developed , poe1 is starting far off in the lead and any progress poe2 makes will be incorporated in some fashion in poe1 making it better .
Like either poe2 get a good thing or a bad thing/league , if good >> port to poe1 , if bad ignore . meanwhile poe1 gets good leagues only by power scaling which they dnt want to do to poe2 and "bad leagues" dnt hurt poe1 anywhere near as they hurt poe2

0,2 made the game worse so its not looking good for poo of excrement 2

seeing as how their plan is to import all league mechanics from poe1 I have no idea why poe2 even exists

>>717802109
Hey, at least they're porting over some of the slower mechanics now. They'll bring over ToTA with act 4 as the third lab replacement. They teased Abyss as the new mechanic being ported over, sort of like how 0.2 ported over Torment and mixed it with Affliction. One of the devs mentioned on Discord that they were working on porting over Blight, so that's another slow mechanic assuming that it doesn't get fused with Abyss somehow so people stop complaining that all PoE2 mechanics are just direct ports of PoE1 mechanics.

>>717797689 (OP)
Can I get a rundown? As far as I can tell, The game had a massive EA release but interest died down. Never played PoE but was waiting for full release before playing.

>>717821579
poe 2 hasn't even had an official league yet.
people have a strawman of poe 2 they doom over when it will be the same thing as poe 1, constant buffs and nerfs with a steady stream of new content.
like most people would call the atlas passive tree one of the core features of the poe 1 endgame and it was only added to the game 3 years ago, 'finalized' a few leagues ago.

>>717797689 (OP)
poop of excrement two

>>717822004
>poe 2 hasn't even had an official league ye
shut the fuck up already

Is Druid in? No? Then fuck off.
Is the game still PoE1 speedcreep bullshit? Yes? Then fuck off.

>>717822004
0.3 is supposed to be the first official league with challenges, rewards, and a specific mechanic in every area and shit. We'll see if that's enough to restore hype of if even fewer people decide to come back for another try after how badly botched 0.2 was.

>>717822079
>noooo i need to doooooooom about thing reeeeee
retard

>>717822079
they literally made a post on the forum for newfags explaining that 0.3 will be the first league and what that means.
>Path of Exile 2 has a lot of new players, so we thought it would be a good idea to explain how our updates work.
>Our big updates, including the one coming in August include a new League. Leagues are a fresh economy for you to experience the new content update in, but they also have exclusive content that is only available in the league.
>Leagues usually contain a new combat mechanic, new rewards, new crafting options and new bosses.
>During the league, the new content will usually appear in every area, giving you a new experience while playing through the game. After the league ends, we then have a chance to work out how we will integrate the content from the league into the base game, meaning it’s a great way to introduce new things while still giving us a chance to fix any problems before they are in the game forever.

>>717822450
sounds like they described 0.2 though?

>>717822513
all the content in 0.2 was added to the base game on day 1 of the patch.

>>717822450
Feels like a league mechanic is a bad idea while the game is so unfinished. They are going for a more serious tone a d e joyable story arch, not sure why they're trying to cram some random unbalanced bullshit into while trying to get the gameplay ironed out and systems added to the game. It's just going to be annoying

>>717823246
they're literally just porting poe1 mechanics

>>717823409
they always said they were going to port most of the mechanics over, is that a bad thing?

>>717823726
Considering one of tbeir reasons for making poe2 in the first place was content bloat

>>717823726
>hey you played through PoE1 for years
>it's time to play it again but this time it's called PoE2
>is that a bad thing?
Yes? At this rate just rerelease PoE1 leagues if you want those mechanics again. They're already turning the game into PoE1 with each patch.

>>717823409
Yes, which is retarded. What's the point in having a sequel if you're going to use the same mechanics over again? It's bad enough they already chose the worst ones ever devised. Fucking ritual? Then 0.2 made a clusterfuck out of the campaign with azmeri charged rape apes. Now what? The player moves so fucking slow and the base abilities are so anemic and lack punch were going to be benny-hilling through the campaign before the game is out of beta

>>717823792
wasn't the thing that it was overwhelming for new players? gradually introducing mechanics is a way to get more people into the game.
>>717823832
>They're already turning the game into PoE1 with each patch.
you mean the patch? still on 0.2.

>>717823928
>What's the point in having a sequel if you're going to use the same mechanics over again?
isn't that what a sequel is thoughbeit?

Only at 0.3 almost 8 months later.
So 1.0 release won't happen until 2028.
Good god.

>>717797689 (OP)
>0.3
When is this shit actually coming out?

>>717808031
Isn't it like $25? Lol

>>717821954
It is an ARPG. All ARPGs have a huge burst of players when a new League/Season comes out. When they come out there is new content and everyone starts over from level one. Then the player base trickles down until most people are just waiting for the next league. Every game in the genre with an active online community has been like this. Back in the day of Diablo II they were called ladder resets.

People are being hyperbolic. The game has issues, but it is popular when it has major releases, just like PoE1. The new 0.3 update is coming this month so people are looking forward to it.

>>717826764
At this rate? End of 2026 or 2027.

>>717824594
Same thing but more content is what DLC is for

>>717827468
but it has a different story, different setting, new classes/mechanics/skills/weapons.

>>717803117
>They refused to commit to slow-paced gameplay and the Dark Souls vibe
Good. I hope they make character action and monster action even faster

>>717819218
this

>>717824594
No. Usually sequels are used to
>build on to existing narration
>introduce new characters, etc
In an arpg, which isn't a story-driven game, it makes no sense to make the sole purpose of the game (action combat) rest solely on the merits of mechanics in the predecessor. Especially since the vast majority of mechanics in poe1 were added haphazardly. You would think that in the sequel, they would take those mechanics, and instead of making them little tourist side attractions, actually make them substantive gameplay elements, or give them depth like a story arch or their own zones etc. Just casually throwing in a bunch of slop carnival rides into the second game is fucking retarded. Where do they go from their ? After 10 different league mechanics get shoved in for the 1.0 release the game will be as bloated as 1 and they'll have nowhere to add anything without making the game look like a complete joke

>>717798740
The moment they decided to also support 0.1 because they could not ignore the autistic meltdowns, was the moment they doomed 0.2
It will never recover interest, at the current rate they will take 2 more years for 1.0

>>717828573
>In an arpg, which isn't a story-driven game
>or give them depth like a story arch or their own zones
why would you want a mechanic to have deep story elements in a game that isn't 'story-driven'?
as a sidenote poe 2 builds on the story established in poe 1.

>poe
>ever geting good again
nice joke shill

>>717801104
>POE1 tradies hate POE2 for being a good game so they en masse ran Lightning Spear Huntress
it's because time efficiency in grinding is king. ggg can larp about dark souls of arpgs all they like but nobody is going to willingly play a shit ass slow build (besides retards like quin69)

All my friends were hardcore poe players
They got so fucking irritated in 0.1 and 0.2 that they arent even caring about poe1 anymore, 0.3 might aswell not exist to them
Wonder how many got burned by GGG retardation

>>717828901
to make them fit the theme of the game being slower and grittier? It's not story driven like a wrpg, but just throwing a bunch of random shit mechanics into the game with no backstory and no reasoning also isn't good. The whole point of poe2 was focused on an enjoyable campaign. So why ruin that by throwing a bunch of anachronistic bullshit into the game from your prior title?

Its not going to make sense to run into a dozen odd mechanics randomly in campaign zones unless it's built into the narrative. Having some NPC pop up and you run off into some clearly added on section in the map that looks out of place so it can fit the mechanic they shove in is retarded. Things needs to be organically implemented and part of the world

That's one of the major reasons poe1 turned in to such a cluster fuck. Lack of cohesive design with just random shit thrown into it.

>>717829876
>Things needs to be organically implemented and part of the world
you mean like how ritual is integrated into the act 1 story?
and you don't run into a dozen odd mechanics in campaign zones, not in poe 1 or 2. when they add a new league mechanic it is accompanied with a storyline from the start of the game, we will see that in the first league in a few weeks.

>>717820417
cope you nigger faggot. Its a fact the loot pinatas and badzillion mechanics in PoE1 make SSF great as there is always a way to progress and improve upon builds. Its also a fact that SSF in its various forms and also other niche modes, like ruthless and even perma HC, are all rounding errors in total player numbers. vast majority either sit 50/50 in league or standard. Or are standard only if the league is shit or none at all

Its also a fact that botting is rampant in tradeie leagues. From farming maps to doing actual trading. This also inflates active player numbers as there is no way to distinguish them from real human players

>>717830421
The first League was Hunt.

>>717830481
NONE OF THAT RUNS COUNTER TO WHAT I SAID
IF YOU WERE AN ACTUAL SSFFAG YOU WOULD NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE PLAYERCOOOOUNT
GO BACK TO FUCKING STEAM CHART THREAD

any point to play POE1 or just wait for 2 this month?

>>717831094
Cosmetics.

>>717830672
>Leagues are a fresh economy for you to experience the new content update in, but they also have exclusive content that is only available in the league.
dawn of the hunt was "Our first major content update" and a ladder reset.

>>717831094
Play games for fun instead of a 'point'

NERF ENERGY SHIELD
BUFF LIFE
THIS GOES FOR BOTH GAMES

>>717831457
Poe 1 is not fun

>>717831549
PoE1 is fun :)

>>717820417
>If you were actually a ssf player like you pretend you are, you wouldn't give a fuck because YOU DON'T PLAY WITH ANYONE YOU IDIOT
??? this is a seasonal game that relies on mtx to fund development, if there is no players then ggg is not making money, you know money that is used for more content in the game that ssf players play.

>>717830421
Azmeri wisps weren't integrated. Neither were rogue exiles or essences. What I'm talking about would be more like Alva introducing the temple mechanic but instead of you entering some portal dimension you find a time machine device before fighting dormant that leads to a temple nexus and corruption chamber DURING campaign and it has its own zones. Then in mapping you can choose temple zones to engage in that mechanic. Same thing for essences - maybe they're found in cave zones only, and there's an explanation given for them in narration. Not just finding random shit sprinkled in. Good in depth mechanics should be given narrative elements and their own zone layouts, not be just some crap mechanic thrown into the game. Betrayal did that in 1 and it looks like shit now. Same with deli and ritual being in a2. It makes no fucking sense. And ritual being in a1 of poe2 is fine because it introduces a boss encounter but the mechanic itself is fucking trash . They should just make ritual tablets morph zones into wildwood zones and have enemies in their drop invitations and omens. Enough with the stand in circle mechanic it's fucking ass

>>717831094
mercenaries is a fun league so you should play it because it's fun

I kept hearing that armor sucks, did they change that at all?

>>717831949
They buffed it once and it was still bad.

GGG needs to stop treating ES like a defense in both poe1 and poe2, it's fucking retarded, people do not use ES as an alternative to evasion or armor. it's very much a different life pool that you can invest in. but since you can scale it in ways life can't it's better than life in every possible fucking way.

>>717831692
>What I'm talking about would be more like Alva introducing the temple mechanic but instead of you entering some portal dimension you find a time machine device before fighting dormant that leads to a temple nexus and corruption chamber DURING campaign and it has its own zones.
which is what they are doing in 0.3. they made a post of the forum to explain how it will work so it doesn't confuse new players(a fool's errand it would seem)

>>717800273
>immunities
That's such a terrible idea holy shit, do you even know what you're saying. What are you gonna do, pause every fucking pack of mobs and see if they're immune to something? No matter how much they slow it down this game will never be visually intuitive enough for something like that.
What they need first is to be clever enough to think of a ton of skills and supports that are both interesting enough in their utility (crowd control, temp buff, charge mechanic etc.) and smart enough to allow for diverse use in varied builds.
They also shouldn't be afraid to make them fell good to use (good cast speed, good AOE etc.) so they don't feel clunky. Satisfy those requirements and that's when people will feel much more inclined to use multiple spells. While of course there are some out there that want to see big number, I'm willing to bet many more are perfectly fine with lower damage numbers as long as it doesn't feel like shit to play.

When these skills that are supposed to be used as a side have cast/attack speed that is super fucking slow, when their AoE is shit, when animations lock you in forcing you to roll constantly like a retard of course people WON'T stop looking to just spam one ability cause that is just a better alternative. Give people a reason to use other skills, a reason that makes them say
>damn this feels good to play
not
>uhh fuck which pack of mobs is this okay gotta pause uhhh they're immune to cold I see gotta use this other skill

>>717828901
If anything PoE2 throws away the entire ongoing plot of PoE1 and the Atlas to focus on its own overarching plot regarding the actual Wraeclast and all the old lore that became too lower power level to matter in PoE1.

The problem with PoE1's plot is that it's constant one upping eldritch bullshit. First we had the Shaper and the Eldar, then the Maven came around and was higher on the power level, then came the Tangle and the Cleansing Fire, below the Maven but still above the Shaper. Now in Secrets we're dealing with new random Eldritch passerby's as we wait for Mavens parents to finally arrive pick her up, as they're the tip top of the multiversal power scale. Somewhere in that mess, irrelevant and in the background, are bit players like Chaos, Chayula, Beidat, Ulaman, The King of Kalguur, The Primevals, and more.

PoE2 seems to just completely toss aside all the eldritch stuff to focus on the the lower power stakes. Beidat and the scourge demons are a big threat. Chayula has broken through the breach and has started an actual religion. The Arbiter of Ash is one of the Primevals and they want to basically start a nuclear winter and wipe the slate clean in service of some other bit player, possibly Viridi, but that will allow the Lightless onto the surface again.

Smaller and more intimate is an interesting place to take the sequels plot but I can't say I disagree. The most interesting part of PoE1's plot to me was the Purity Rebellion, and how everything in the first four acts kept tying back to it. The jump in scale during acts 5-10 and especially the endgame happens to quick it doesn't have time to feel earned. I just hope that this smaller and more intimate plot doesn't go the same way as their slower and more methodical combat.

>>717831949
They admitted in 0.2 that they had no idea how to fix it yet and needed more time. It will likely still be an ongoing issue.

>>717832783
Just make number bigger.
How is that so hard?
>Okay, but then they overbuff it and everyone plays some flavor of armor
And then make number smaller.

>>717832170
Armour should mitigate damage from all hits just like evasion now works against spells

>>717832783
more of a player problem than anything else. it's like poe 1 and the 'i have 90% physical damage reduction and still get one shot.'

>>717797689 (OP)
Whos the guy on art? Did they announce new class? Is it druid?

>>717832457
Link?

>>717833164
Druid is the next rumored class, but there is a possibility it is Shadow (now named Assassin).

>>717832978
>>717832783
poe1 armor is also bad in a vacuum. but with things like fortify, molten shell, endurance charges ect ect its good. poe2 armor has almost nothing, you can invest into block but thats literally it.

>>717833178
I'll be amused to see what link he provides (if he provides any at all), given he just pulled a heaping pile of shit out of his ass.

>>717833178
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3811169
>Our big updates, including the one coming in August include a new League. Leagues are a fresh economy for you to experience the new content update in, but they also have exclusive content that is only available in the league.
>During the league, the new content will usually appear in every area, giving you a new experience while playing through the game.

>>717832710
It's seemingly set prior to a lot of things in poe1 though not sure how long before. Maybe we'll see atziri become corrupted

Wow, he's not even trying.

>>717833506
...Anon, PoE2 is set 20 years after PoE1.
The current plot "end" going into the past is just there as an excuse for the mapping system.

>>717833347
retard

>>717833436
So exactly like poe1 retard. They're saying they are going to plop it into each zone without explanation exactly like how I was saying it ruined poe1

Are you retarded by chance?

>>717833632
>Responding to someone who openly admitted that they can't even read your post
Come on lad.

>>717832170
This. It makes me laugh that they think that ES is the same as armor or evasion. It is blue life, except you have like 3-4x as much. In PoE1 ES scaling is also easy to use to scale damage too.

>Scale 30,000 ES
>It also gives you damage
>It also has easy ways to leech, regen in combat and gives immunity to chaos damage with CI
>This is somehow balanced

>>717811085
you could potentially give your skeletons an aoe attack by other means and then it would (should) have an effect

>>717797689 (OP)
The game is already great. Better than PoE1. It can only get better.

>>717833632
what do you think happened during incursion league?
have you ever played a path of exile league? what the fuck lmao

>>717833594
No but you travel back in time with Alva to confront doryani from doing whatever the fuck

>>717833708
Speaking of PoE1 ES, how broken is/was that Forbidden Rite setup everyone hyped up in the first week of the new League?

>>717833889
>what do I think happened during incursion league
You had Alva pop up intrusively in every zone and you entered a portal like I said you dumb fucking nigger.

I am saying I DO NOT WANT THAT. I do not want some random npc to pop up in act 1 and introduce some random bullshit that makes no fucking sense. ARE YOU FUCKING READING WHAT IM WRITING? Mechanics should be introduced with their OWN ZONES (read:not a1 first zone and a random npc appears to give you a fucking leaflet type bullshit)

Why are you retarded?

>>717833919
Everything with that amulet is busted. There's a poison viper strike of the mamba build with it too

only shills and retards care for poop 2

>>717833708
Literally this
I made PERFECT bloodmage HP stacker and had like 5k hp.
ES tards are allowed to have 20k shield with minimum investments.

>>717833919
Currently the most powerful build in the game, most popular build at 9% of characters. DPS is kind of low, generally around a few million, but when your EHP can also hit 1m it gets the job done

>>717833909
You just ignored what I said.
But sure, whatever.
You go into the past because you are desperately searching for a way to stop the Beast and the Vaal (at the height of their empire no less) with their deep understanding of Corruption (a power wielded by the Beast) is your best bet. Sin outright says as much before you enter the portal.
So you step through, Alva fucks everything up, and your plans go to shit, turning into a mad dash to save her.
Then you find out that we're days/hours away from Atziri communing with the Beast, which will bring about the near-extinction of the Vaal, with Alva being the sole survivor in the modern day, when talking to Doryani after beating him.
Realizing that he can't stop Atziri or protect his lineage, Doryani agrees to travel to the future with you to acquire the tools necessary to defeat the Beast once again.
Then we have the current endgame which forestalls the plot with you "getting trapped in the past" as an excuse to have the mapping system.

>>717834176
>nooooo, not the sacrosainct lore, you're ruining it, MY IMMERSION !!!!!
shut the fuck up pussy, literally not even ggg cares about that stupid shit, gameplay first, ALWAYS

>>717834293
>DPS is kind of low, generally around a few million
Is "a few million" really that low or are you just desensitized due to overperforming builds? Cause to me, a few million DPS is more than enough for most of endgame, doubly so if you can actually tank.

>>717799602
>I dislike how they were shown off prerelease. It was just constantly transforming in and out of human to bear form. I wanna stay in bear or wolf or rhoa or whatever form, not go in and out every 10 seconds.
Chances are they have reworked Druid since they haven't shown anything new about him in two years despite Druid being one of the first playable classes in the pre-release events.

>>717834176
>i don't want to meet an npc that has a story and lore and introduces new content
>i want a completely new form of videogame storytelling the likes of which has never been seen before!!
fuck off retard

>>717834406
a couple million is enough to comfortably kill any uber in the game as long you have the right defenses.

>>717834529
>new campaign zones and assets that fit in with the story and lore are "never before seen in a video game"
Retard

>>717834578
>No, a few million is actually quite a lot overall
Thanks.

>>717834352
It's fine for 1 or 2 mechanics. But when you've got 10 disparate mechanics popping up all over the place it's like I've got the windows paperclip guy shoving his nose into my gameplay. It's gaudy

>>717834632
>play incursion league
>meet alva, she explains her situation and gives you some lore
>find incursions as you playthrough the game
>enter the incursions and go to new zones to engage with the leagues content
>eventually open up a portal to a temple with more content and lore
this is a bad thing because the incursions take you to new zones and aren't new 'campaign zones'
ok champ.

>>717835232
Yes. The introduction to Alva should occur via some gameplay related occurrence like stepping through a vaal portal only to wind up outside the temple, walk through all the various rooms, and then rescue Alva from the temple boss.

That's much better than having Alva pop in constantly while youre walking asking you about how to lower your credit score with this one neat trick every fucking zone

>>717797689 (OP)
"Free2Play"


>costs 60$


lol

>>717835513
so incursion should have been act 3 of poe 2?
it is pretty kino so i'm going to give you that one.

>>717835789
Yes. I would make an entire story arch of each mechanic. Exactly. I'm surprised they didn't add in Alva temples with that act because it would have made the most sense when we met doryani and all his vaal devices

>>717834406
Eh, it is kind of a bit low. Like more than doable, but really something like 10-15M is a lot more enjoyable just because some rares are retardedly tanky and ubers take forever. However, with how tanky it is, it really isn't a problem.

>>717797689 (OP)
I hope poe2 dies so that they can go back to making the actually good game.

>>717797689 (OP)
Game is complicated for me — I enjoyed 0.1 but never went through 0.2.
It feels like a chore, but PoE 1 can do that for me too. I think Settlers was awesome because the progress with the town was enough to feel like engagement and progress. As dumb as it sounds, it just feels better if you truly make progress.

PoE 2 sometimes feels like struggling to keep playing in the hope that you might have more fun later. The best parts or leagues of PoE were the ones where it all went fast and smooth. PoE can have moments where it just feels too slow — this felt like beating a dead horse.

>>717797689 (OP)
So long as they continue pushing for this Ruthless 2.0 playstyle, it will not be good.

>>717836698
If RF can do Ubers with less defense and less damage, it's fine.

>>717797689 (OP)
I chanced a headhunter on day 3 of the lightning spear patch, and that still wasn't enough to keep me playing for more than a week. I will wait for full release and an actual season before I play this game again.

>>717829112
>Nobody is willingly going to play a slow build
That's why GGG should hotfix nerf any build that screenclears quickly in POE2 and I'm not kidding

>>717837845
But people come to PoE to screen-clear — it’s fun. Removing fast screen-clear removes people. And replacing your target audience is always a great idea… not.

I’m not even arguing against balanced approaches, but the “slow and hard” purists are few and far between in ARPGs, especially in PoE.

>>717837986
>But people come to PoE to screen-clear — it’s fun.
Then people should go to PoE and stay there. Why go to PoE2 and demand this shit?

>>717837986
>People come to POE to screen clear, it's fun
It's not fun. POE has some of the worst gameplay I've ever experienced. Tradetrannies know this but it's okay because it lets them get their divs/hr faster
>Slow and hard purists are few and far between
which is why POE2 should force everyone to be a slow and hard purist
>b-but they'll just not play POE2!
good, tradetrannies were never going to like it anyway
There are two outcomes here:
You either turn 2 into dogshit to appeal to tradeniggers
You keep 2 good, which makes the tradeniggers quit playing it
Even if the latter scenario ends with the death of POE2, I'd rather 2 be good then die of unpopularity than be Frankensteined into a 1-style shitfest that makes me unhappy to play

POE1 is commercially successful and has people coming back to play it season after season for going on a decade now.

Saying that POE1 is actually bad is a lie. Claiming its gameplay is bad is a lie.

>>717838254
poe 2 was designed to have fast paced mapping. a loot based arpg with randomized itemization can't be slow, imagine playing dork souls but items were completely randomize. it just doesn't work.

I'm probably going to play 0.3 but they really need to hurry up with the rest of the content, meaning the classes, gems and acts. Releasing one class at a time is so fucking slow and it also tells us that they seriously weren't prepared for anything at all.

>>717838254
calling people trade trannies like ssf and hc players can't also blast fast is retarded

>>717797689 (OP)
It not being f2p already killed everything.

>>717838659
>Imagine
I don't have to, I played 0.1 and 0.2 pre-ruining-patch and I had fun

>>717838727
fuck off brownskin

>>717838254
>>717838076
It was the idea, but the connection to PoE was made when they put a “2” behind it. So people demand a successor, and you can’t be edgy about it without realizing you’re a minority on that.

I think the idea of the direct controls was awesome — it’s really a small innovation that elevates the game — but they failed to balance the progression and monsters against a slower playstyle. And they still hesitated to dial it all down to the same speed. We had some of that in 0.2, but still not enough.

But here we’re hitting the details that take too much time to dissect. You might not like my previous explanation, but it’s the reality: people flocked from PoE 1 to 2 and got vocal about it being too slow. Now GGG is between a rock and a hard place — either they go forth with their VISION™ and make it slow and hard while screwing you over with high-speed mods, or they go down the WASD-PoE route with high-speed combat, screen-clear, and prettier graphics.

The audience sadly doesn’t seem to really differentiate between these two extremes.

>>717838732
they killed poe with the harvest nerf in 3.14. at least they were nice enough to kill poe 2 early in development so we don't have to waste anymore time on this slop.

>>717838254
I just don't understand why they don't loudly commit to having both. Just fully commit to having PoE1 be the poopsock zoomzoom shit where you run the same map 3000 times a day and is balanced around blowing up entire screens of monsters starting at level 60. Commit to updating visuals of PoE1, adding WASD, etc after PoE2 is finished. And just commit to PoE2 actually being slow and methodical. Diversify your bonds nigggas.
>>717838541
Popular =/= good and you know this.
Also if that was true it would just mean PoE 2 is better.
>b-b-but poo2 wont have lots of players anymore
That's what you fags said about EA release too so I guess we'll just wait and see, huh?

>>717838659
The pacing is fucked up because 60% of the game is missing. I'm fairly sure that the endgame is supposed to be more zoom zoom after the slow campaign but right now the powercreep is completely fucked because the most important acts are missing. I have no idea what they were thinking when they pushed the game into early access in this state.

>>717838993
idk but i play something like last epoch or tq2 and realize poe 2 is in way better shape than it's potential competition.

Anyone else find it kind of weird that /v/ is the only place where "PoE is too slow" and "PoE is too fast" are both dominant opinions, at the same time?

PoE2 is in a state of perpetually being fucked forever.

>>717839332
Thats hot.

>>717839295
Because it’s the core issue the game has.
Pacing is fucked — go too fast and people cry it’s not a new game anymore, go too slow and people cry that it’s not like PoE anymore.

>>717839332
giwtwm

>>717839538
Just add a dash button with stamina.

Any word what Chris Wilson is making? aRPG?

>>717839625
Don't we already have the roll?

>>717839295
"PoE is too slow" are redditors with dopamine dysregulation syndrome
"PoE is too fast" are actual people
>>717839702
Strongly hinted to be another ARPG Diablo II successor.

>>717797689 (OP)
literally nothing can kill the game for good. People will always come back to PoE2. The duration of their stay I can't say, but know this : PoE2 is never going away, people always come back.

>>717839759
Disable the dash during combat then.

>>717838814
Why would I wanna pay for an inferior game when there is a free one?

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>BALD FUCKING RETARD

the PoE saga was pretty hilarious to me personally. First you get all these streamers trying to beat the game for the first time because "oh em gee the sphere grid is sooo big and complex!"
Then after doing the bare minimum of content, like a hundred new retards and Asmongold with a few others started lecturing GGG and telling them how to "fix their game". And after months of hype the game dies in a fucking week it's poetic.

>>717841053
you have just described every single path of exile league since 2013

>>717841370
devs consistently update damage calcs and force players to datamine, then nerf any player advantages that are found because of "unintended mechanics". The adversarial relationship of the devs is frankly bewildering and the game has always been shit sadly.

Trying too hard again.

>>717841053
PoE being a good game was a complete fluke. GGG were always a bunch of clueless retards that never played their own game

>>717841850
Early PoE they played plenty. The problem was when they started making a game for other people instead of themselves.

>>717841053
yeah the game was bad from the beginning. i cant believe streamers had any hope for it for an entire week. how did they not see it? i thought they were professional gamers

>>717841649
Yeah you didn't see huge meta shifts and the nerfing of people's builds in d2. That shit is a surefire way to alienate people over time. GGG hasn't learned since there's always a new sucker on the horizon but I imagine the game would be far more popular without them doing that

>>717838678
HC players keep pausing and logging out at every slight chance of danger so they can never blast fast

>>717841937
This idea that they ever did things because reddit asked and you're the vanguard of GGGs mission is pathetic. You don't have to take up arms for the billion dollar company to defend them from reddit anon. GGG are fully capable of making their own decisions and in fact have been this entire time.

>abandon poe1 to launch half of poe2
>poe2 needs a significant amount of work
>wait people are making their own league in poe1 because we fucked up
>shit better make a poe1 league now too fuck
I dunno how they're gonna manage developing poe2 while trying to keep 1 going at the same time with the same staff.

>>717842349
if that's so true why did Chris stop being the face of the game? We all know he couldn't handle the criticism and backlash from printed text on an lcd screen.

>>717842634
he sold the company in 2018, his contract ended in 2024 and he retired from the board of directors.

>>717842634
Because he made a deal with China to get rich and sell you addicts out to the gacha farm you naive idiot

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>>717798398
why are people pushing narrative so hard that poe2 is some kind of bad game, or the game is in jeopardy? literally just making stuff up. like you guys want it to b e true so bad you just say it everywhere you can to try and will it into reality.

unpopular opinion:
trading is fine but ONLY in hc trade. sc is fun as long as you play it in ssf. the official ranking is this:
#1. hc trade
#2. ssf sc
#3. ssf hc
thats it, sc trade is unplayble.

>>717842634
>why did Chris stop
I'm happy that he got out you people are the most mentally unstable community I've ever seen you deserve nothing

>>717843219
>10 leagues after original poe is ruined more and more with each league
>expecting the sequel to be any good