Thread 717850916

Why isn't classic Xbox as beloved as any of their other retro contemporaries despite being the 6th gen runner up?

It was a forced meme by the most evil corporation to ever exist. It only had any success because of Halo, which was only successful because it came out at just the right time.

>>717850916 (OP)
It never attracted the autistic manchildren nintendo does and it lacked the consistency of PlayStation. The people that know it know it deserves its second place among the 6th gen consoles and consider it a dear console. Having the best versions of 6th gen multiplats is a huge bonus, free DLC for shitloads of games, restored online functionality for 200 games including many of the biggest titles, it's easily the most interesting platform to get into these days.

>>717850916 (OP)
How big is picrel gock

>>717850916 (OP)
I like tomboys in dresses and skirts

>>717850916 (OP)
Because the demographic people who talk about this kinda shit never played that.

XB360 was a huge step up in terms of library and market presence.
Arguably you could say that people kind of forgot the 6th and 7th generations were separate eras since both PS2 and XB360 were powerhouses for their respective owners while their other sort of languished, meanwhile Nintendo was off in their own happy little corner doing whatever.

>>717851536
I like tomboys no matter what clothes they wear but skirts are super cute so tomboys with skirts are even cuter than usual.

>>717851268
>restored online functionality for 200 games including many of the biggest titles
With zero people playing them because nobody cares.

I think it's because there are simply not many of them around that still work. For some reason they die a lot more often than most of the older consoles.

>>717850916 (OP)
The Xbox was really cool, but the PS2 and Gamecube had more memorable exclusives and a more diehard fanbase comparitively. Also complementing a girl in any way is like walking into a minefield.

>>717851774
Still sore after yesterday cubefag? Why do Nintendo fans always insert themselves in threads that have nothing to do with them?

>>717851850
They've got infamously shoddy capacitors that can ruin the entire machine if they leak

>>717850916 (OP)
Halo is better than every PS2 and GameCube game.

>>717852059
It's a single cap, other ones that leak on 1.6 models leak from the top so they won't damage anything. It's an easy fix if you're mediocre at soldering. Lots of kits these days to fix ones with trace damage as well.

>>717850916 (OP)
It's in the same spot as PS3 where most of its notable titles can be played on modern platforms in some form so if you're buying one today it's only for like 2-5 games

>>717852016
Just saying, there is no active Xbox fanbase. Zero online activity and zero fan mods.
>>717852186
Plenty of models have busted video caps and the power supplies tend to crap out as well. There's also the harddrive that can fail and the DVD drive (not really useful in 2025 anyway).

>>717850916 (OP)
Because literally everybody had a PS2, even people who had an xbox. Also the "people" obsessed with the Dreamcast and Gamecube are literal cultists.

>>717852356
Hop on the discord and you can find people to play with in seconds.
>zero fan mods
? There's more for Xbox than any other console.
>Plenty of models have busted video caps
Cheap and easy fix. DVD drives are universal and endgame bypasses the need entirely, power supplies can be recapped or replaced.

go fuck yourself

>>717852356
This is easily proved false. Fans have reverse-engineered Xbox live on the original Xbox and have some of the games playable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxTuAbpF6Ns

>>717850916 (OP)
The only system that mattered in that generation was the PlayStation 2.

>blabla Halo
>blabla Melee
Irrelevant systems that were barely selling better than the Dreamcast.

>>717850916 (OP)
Because Microsoft fucked over og Xbox owners with the X360 you fucking Zoomer fuck you

>>717850916 (OP)
Nice Xbox shirt Madeline

>No meleefag sperging or wii double dip to make people pretend it's noteworthy beyond being the 6/7st gen console woth good emulation
>PS2 playing backups is note worthy for needing a niche accessory and it had some roster of exclusives to emulate since they dropped PS2 emulation on the ps3
>Basically every noteworthy original xbox game is forwards compatible or repackaged ie mister fist collection
>Emulation basically only exists because og xboxes are literally killing themselves and Jet Set Radio Future didn't get back compat
>One of the few major exclusives that's good Blinx got bent over and tag team fucked by Arbiter and Master Chief because microsoft is honestly fucking retarded.
It was over before it began for the og xbox pretty much.

>>717852714
why dreamcastbros why

>>717852505
>Hop on the discord
Vile sentence.
>? There's more for Xbox than any other console.
Even if we count stuff like ancient texture mods for SCII, it's still a completely dead scene.
>Cheap and easy fix.
Okay but it's still broken. The worst issue some units have is the front panel having corrosion on the traces. Makes it impossible to boot the console at all. Obviously it can be fixed, but it's the worst issue by far.
>>717852697
Nobody is actually playing on Insignia though.

The webms really show why the console has no legacy. Would you play any of these games? Didn't think so.

>>717850916 (OP)
Meanwhile irl Xbox girls...

>>717852835
>Vile sentence.
You have to do work for once in your life.
>Even if we count stuff
Correct, we count homebrew too. Xbox is still the biggest in 2025.
>Okay but it's still broken
Then fix it. It's no worse than gamecube disc drives that all need recaps in 2025 because Nintendo cheaped out and drives the laser too hard so it rapes the capacitors.

>>717850916 (OP)
because: only americans care about xbox, specially the first generation, and then is because of Halo or some other niche game that nobody cares, not the company itself

>>717851536
>>717851714
Tomboys can't wear femenine clothes

>>717853018
>You have to do work for once in your life.
I'm not using your spyware grooming service.
>Xbox is still the biggest in 2025.
Completely dead online and no mods, it's deader than the PS2.
>It's no worse than gamecube disc drives that all need recaps in 2025 because Nintendo cheaped out and drives the laser too hard so it rapes the capacitors.
Actually it's a lot worse since the Xbox won't even power on without trace repair.

>>717853173
>I'm not
I can tell. You never were much of anything were you?

>>717852801
Everyone knew PS2 was coming soon and when it did they quickly dropped DC (if they even bought it at all instead of just waiting for PS2)

>>717853245
No need to get so catty. Nice braindead slowmotion console shooter #19276

>>717853018
>the only comfy thing xbox ever developed was their corporate culture of failure
I... I don't even have words

>>717853449
>dead on arrival 3(?)

The only thing og Xbox had was Halo, and Halo was also on PC
Only normies who loved Halo 2 give a shit about og Xbox

>>717852570
that's cool

>>717851536
>i like women in women's clothes
retard

>>717851536
Short cuts doesn't mean tomboys you braindead fuck

>>717850916 (OP)
The PS2 released earlier and had more games, both exclusive and multiplat

>>717850916 (OP)
Why don't women where skirts anymore?

>>717853408
>console shooter
IE, the only type of shooter worth playing.

>>717854529
Certified goycattle take.

>>717854529
Completely true. It's a shame the genre is dead these days.

>>717853065
They can, it also makes them even cuter.

>>717850916 (OP)
Truthfully, because most people are getting into 6th gen again or trying it for the first time through emulation. And Original Xbox has terrible emulation, currently. 360 emulation is much more stable than Xemu or cxbx-reloaded, but you can already play all 360 games either on a slim, which is dirt cheap or most via BC through Bone or Series, while original Xbox still has many titles trapped or have inferior emulation through 360's backwards compatability.

>>717855024
>most people are getting into 6th gen again or trying it for the first time through emulation
Yeah this is correct. Dolphin being super accessible and having familiar Mario and Zelda games makes it really easy to hone in on. PS2 is incredible but you can see it here, people are often uninformed on what there is to play. Xbox has a few reputational barriers holding it back as well as a weak emulation scene.

It's a shame, but that's the mainstream audience that needs to be cracked in order to have awareness spread. You have to crack the people who are pogging out over being able to play smash bros on their computer. Even their portables/phones are doing it.

>>717855239
Even if Xbox emulation was as stable and simple as the Famicom, people still wouldn't give a fuck about Blinx or any other Xbox game.

>>717855493
Ultimately I'm not interested in having conversations with someone who's only association with video games is Mario when it comes to games like Blinx, so this is not my problem. To me there's infinitely more value to a guy who asks "what is there to play on this?" "I want to check this out." Or "I heard about this." Innate curiosity that blows away aimless wandering associated with a pokeman iphone guy.

>>717855694
Blinx is Artoon slop. The game is genuinely shit.

>>717853065
Not caring much for the typically feminine and having a preference for and fancying the typically masculine. Is not the same thing as a downright rejection of the feminine.
A tomboy doesn't need to pretend like they aren't women and they don't need to go out of their way to make themselves less feminine.

>>717856110
Like I said, your opinion isn't interesting to me. You can't even explain why you like your favorite games. What interesting thing can you possibly have to say? "you don't like nintendo so you're bad!" OK? You're gay.

>>717856176
>Like I said, your opinion isn't interesting to me.
My opinion has nothing to do with the facts that the Xbox brand is dead, and that Blinx is a failed IP because the game sucked.

>>717856253
OK? You're gay.

>>717850916 (OP)
it kicked off halofags and codfags, honestly we should invent a time machine and remove it from the timeline

>>717856321
The fact every one of these webms has been graphicsfagging over ugly games speaks volumes as to why the console has zero lasting impact.

>>717853065
that disqualifies ur-tomboy Anne of Green Gables you brainrotted little goof.

>>717853018
God I wish class-based games like this were still coming out. It was like tf2 but so fucking cool, no faux competitive 6v6 hero shooter, just mayhem

>>717856990
I'm surprised no indie hacks make class based games.

What's the state of the emulator nowadays?

>>717850916 (OP)
Feels like I could just sink my hand into that x-shaped crater and pull out her heart or something

>>717854429
What's the point? You know they'll just have some sort of spats or leggings underneath

>>717857546
Not great but pretty good. I know you can play plenty of games online with it but performance in some games can be awful.

>>717851263
>most evil corporation to ever exist.
Nestlé dont make the xbox anon

>>717854429
People are less classy.

>console warring over old consoles
for what reason

>>717858442
Mental retardation/autism

>>717850916 (OP)
Hetero American men who were around in the 2000s know how good Xbox and 360 were (minus goddamn RROD shit). That rules out the troons, children or thirdies that make up the majority of this board.

>>717853245
That game looks sick, but did you put the wrong name on the webm?

>>717851268
>no rpg section

>>717859136
I did and its been like that for years, it's Darkwatch. Also on PS2.

>>717857546
mixed bag, about half of the titles that people give a shit about run well-ish but there's still a lot of games that are either broken or unplayable
way better than it was a couple years ago at least, things are definitely looking up for Xbox emulation

because it has no exclusives besides halo worth a shit. same as the 360 really

>>717859136
I believe it is Darkwatch

>>717858442
97% of /v/ consist of mentally ill melancholic autistic millennials with no life or prospects with an extreme inability to move on from shit they did as children

>>717852505
very nice water

>>717853065
The whole point of tomboys is that they arent surface level thots like most women
the fact that you judge them by their surface level means you dont deserve them

>>717852801
The DC was doomed from day 1, we just didn't know it.

are there any good xbox android emulators? i never see it mentioned in emulation threads or ROM sites

>>717860821
There isn't even a 'good' xbox emulator for pc, anon.

>>717861016
>emulating on PC
ISHYGDDT

>og xbox emulation is bad because it lacks mainstream appeal
I hate you motherfuckers
we used to not include onboarding wizards and making the player setup bios, controls, graphic renderers and audio drivers all by themselves without telling them what they need to do just to keep the hobby niche and away from scrutiny
I hate stenzek and retroarch for ruining it for the rest of us

>>717860821
>i never see it mentioned in emulation threads or ROM sites
There's a reason for that. You're honestly better trying to find an actual xbox at a flea market or something I actually did. It was $30 CAD at SallyAnn and I'm still kicking myself for not buying it.

>>717850916 (OP)
Because most people didn't own one.
The original Xbox wasn't a bad console, when 360 dropped, people bought those up and any Xbox originals they missed out on they played on 360 via backwards compatibility patches.
What they REALLY wanted was to break into the Japanese market, but that was extremely difficult cause they acted like jackasses and ignored what Japanese consultants told them.
Even when they hired exclusive Japanese heavy hitters to make original games it still didn't see success with Japan.
Then they decided fuck customers and gamers, we wanna be a Cable box with a spyware camera forced on at all times.

Microsoft for all it's flaws used to be good when their business model was sell you software/hardware and that was that.
They went full greedy spying retarded and I feel no sympathy for them anymore

>>717861378
i still have my og xbox but i only do retro gaming on my chink handheld.

>>717858442
I dunno.
At least they're not going full coleco vs atari

>>717850916 (OP)
If Xbox never existed gaming wouldn't lose anything.

>>717860821
The OG xbox emulator on PC runs worse than the PS3/X360 emulators, it's utter dogshit.

>>717851268
>multiplatform
Literally what's the point? Besides SH2, since PC version was shite before mods.
Otogi looks rad as FUCK.
>Riddick
I would put that under action. It was half and half. MGS too. MGS have stealth elements that get forgotten about in bosses/Act III.

In retrospect Xbox was probably the best console of that gen. It got most of the big multiplats, they ran better than on PS2, and it got the rest of what Sega would have put on the Dreamcast, plus kino like Otogi and Ninja Gaiden.

>>717854429
They've decided that skirts are for little girls. This is so upsetting.

>>717853449
>>717853514
Wow, i didn't know we had this dynamic snow imprint tech so early
also isn't DOA the titty fighting game?

>>717850916 (OP)
literally no one had an xbox

>>717858045
They don't exactly want people like you staring at their holes. At least not without subscribing to their OF

>>717854294
You're talking to retards, anon. They think "short hair and brown" means tom boy. The reality is that women just do whatever gets them attention, even Tom boys, and a lot of them will cater to communities that don't have a lot of women in them

>>717862086
If Sega was going to die anyway, maybe a better company would have become the third pillar

Multi-plats don't sell consoles, of all of the original exclusives for the Xbox the only ones that stand out are Halo CE and Ninja Gaiden. Xbox was the first console to do online integration "right" but even then it didn't have that many games that needed it until the 360 came along.

>>717855694
Yeah, there's always one sperg who cries nonstop if Xbox games are ever mentioned whatsoever.

>>717861636
>average atarifag cope

>>717867764
t. bankrupt

>>717867525
You should give the exclusives on the console a try. People still bend over backwards begging Sega for a JSRF release. Panzer Dragoon Orta turns heads, Breakdown is captivating, Steel Battalion and LoC is insane (good luck getting the controller.) and I love Crimson Skies and Amped 2.

>>717858442
Either for (You)s or people who genuinely worship console brands like a religion. Hard to tell with /v/ since so many do it simply to stir the pot.

>>717850916 (OP)
because it was basically a halo machine as far as most people were concerned. It had few good exclusives like jet set future and blinx but outside that most of the memorable games were multiplatform or have since been ported to other things.

Wasn't there some news about Microsoft doing something with Xbox emulation, or did I just misunderstand?

>>717868016
I've never seen anyone who owns an original Xbox only own just Halo. This feels like an outsider perspective.

>>717868163
Anecdotal evidence does not disprove sales.

OG Xbox was a good console for its time. Between it and Gamecube, you had basically everything worth playing that gen. You'd miss out on like 5 PS2 games, not really a big deal.

>>717863023
>Literally what's the point?
To recommend the games? What sort of stupid fucking question is that?
If there's a list for Xbox, PS2, and GC, but none of them show the multiplats, then the multiplats never get the attention they deserve.

>>717856176
Dead or Alive 3 was genuinely one of the most visually impressive games I've ever seen at release. The PS2/Xbox era really felt like a technological jump. Especially for someone like me who just came from Tekken 3.

>>717868242
Are you an Xbox owner or a sales analyst?

If I'm only looking to play OG Xbox games with backwards compatibility, what's the best console to get?

>>717868474
360 with the updated fusion app

>>717850916 (OP)
it's definitely better than the gaycube and dreamcast
>>717852356
>Zero online activity and zero fan mods
why are you lying you dumb faggot. literally 2 days ago people ported the vista exclusives maps to halo 2 on xbox

>>717850916 (OP)
very few exclusives

most games are multiplats or were better on pc

>>717861378
Nice, I need to find a replacement for mine since it's fucked. Unless I can find a game repair place that could do it for cheaper.

>>717868459
Completely irrelevant question.

>>717868679
I take it you're a sales analyst, and not an Xbox owner. You're a gay retard, aren't you?

>>717868474
360 can play like 95% of original Xbox games.
XBone and Series S/X can play a few dozen with updated resolutions and framerates.
Depends entirely on what you're wanting to play.

>>717868758
>I take it you're a sales analyst, and not an Xbox owner.
Wrong.

>>717868474
>>717869304
I should also add that 360 can be hit or miss with emulation for its original Xbox games.
>JSRF gets massive frame dips and stutters in certain areas like 99th Street
>Halo CE seems to have some weird input lag during combat
>Halo 2 gets image burn on the screen that doesn't go away until you reboot the game
But most other games I've played more or less seemed the same to me, without any testing.

>>717868163
Yeah no shit i listed other games worth playing if you buy a game console you get other games. what I meant is halo was really the only exclusives people actually bought the console for.

>>717850916 (OP)
The shirt combo stays on

>>717863882
Xbox got best ports of arcadey games like gauntlet, burnout and outrun. It was THE family console for multiplayer fun with normies in the family.
also got all the bethesda and bioware rpgs.
all ps2 got was deus ex and all gamecube got was lol lmao.

>>717865495
Its the counter attack fighting game.
the titty is purely marketing.

>>717850916 (OP)
A) It just barely edged out the Gamecube, so it didn't have as many eyes that were exposed to it, especially compared to the PS2
B) It had a respectable number of really good exclusives, but a lot of them were new IPs, were series that didn't continue into the 7th Gen, or weren't attached to a big team that would expose people to the game if they looked at their back catalog, so there's not as much as a lead back into them like the Gamecube
C) Barely any of the good exclusives for the GCN and PS2 were ported to PC at any time (whether in its lifespan or even after), whereas it was pretty typical for Xbox. How many people at this point properly know that KOTOR is actually an Xbox game?
D) A lot of its strength was also tied up in the fact that, unless it was a game hyper optimized for other platforms (looking at you, MGS2), the Xbox version of multiplats were often the absolute best with more content. In retrospect, this doesn't mean much, as a lot of the multiplats are on PC, or people are fine playing the GCN versions on Dolphin with higher render resolutions
E) Another strength was its easy ability to softmod it. This was genuinely a selling point to a decent number of nerds back in the day--hell, it's the reason my Dad got an Xbox--but the context for why a softmodded Xbox would be useful is strictly in the 2000s
F) A lot of nostalgia is also tied to online, which has been shut down for ages, and it's not like you can just whip out MechAssault and play online at any time on Insignia like you could on Xbox Live

tl;dr Doesn't have the same boons to help keep it relevant as its competitors, and a lot of unfortunate "you had to be there" answers for anyone wanting to go back to it now

But fuck all the haters. Xbox rocks. TJ&E3 kicks ass if you can stomach the cringey cutscenes (which you don't get if you play the Dreamcast beta version but uhhhhhhhhhh shut up)

no matter how many threads this mentally ill transvestite cubie spams, the shitcube will always be the third place piece of dogshit with the worst games, worst third party support, worst controller, worst online, and worst featureset of the 6th gen

Why does everyone pretend the Dreamcast didn't exist this gen?

>>717853449
Lost technology

>>717858442
When hardware based DRM is your entire reason for existance the corporate branding of your hardware based DRM is all that matters.

>>717867764
Two hundred and fifty six colors.
that's 16 times more your coleco crap has

>>717871048
>When hardware based DRM
this. the shitcube and its micropenis disc DRM is a blight in humanity

>>717871475
I was more talking about consoles as a whole, but those are next tier console cancer

>>717871653
you can install other linux on ps2 and xbox but keep trying cubie bitch

>>717856110
It's okay I got filtered by the second half of the game as well anon.
Still doesn't mean the game is shit though

>>717851431
xbox hueg

>>717851268
Its 3rd place at best. Other than gaylo its library is a whole lot of glup shitto games with corny art styles that look like xavier renegade or something, un ambitious stories and kinda crusty 3rd person action that doesnt hold up that well. And no one cares about it because these arent games that are franchise installments -- none of these games needed sequels, none of these games are good enough to justify a cult following. The system was abolutely carried by halo.

IMO: PS2 = Dreamcast > Xbox > Gamecube.
Xbox has some of my favorite games from that gen. Panzer Dragoon Orta, Steel Battalion, Phantom Dust, Otogi, JSRF, Metal Wolf Chaos, the list goes on.

>>717850916 (OP)
Because almost everything of worth was already available on the PS2 or GC at the time, at least like 80% of >>717851268's list are on other platforms or have better versions at this point, and like the 360 it generally relied on its multiplat library outside of Halo.

Now, that doesn't mean that in the context of just consoles the Xbox isn't the king of most versions of the game (Genma Onimusha being the definitive version and I believe so were the Fatal Frames), but in most cases you might as well just play the PS2 or GC versions of the games as they're far more readily available on a system you likely already own.

I think the Xbox is pretty interesting in terms of games but it's sort of in the same position the Vita is now where you have to heavily hack it and even then it's mostly a question of why you would when you either have objectively superior PC versions, games are just better emulating the PS2/GC versions, or they are playable on a Series system in significantly better ways.

>>717866952
I don't care about their orifices, I just want to see their panties

>>717861417
>Then they decided fuck customers and gamers
No, they fucked over their customers and gaming for everyone since it's inception with XBL and the og Xbox was cut short because Microsoft in their infinite wisdom thought the only way to win a console war was to release the console first even if it's a hardware beta with lots of kinks yet to be resolved customer be damned. The trend to release broken games can be blamed on Microsoft and the X360 too. They did it first and succeeded.

>>717869523
so you are both an xbox owner and a sale analyst. that makes you a double retard. good job.

>>717851268
>no horror title
That's why there was some trending japanese woman saying that she's japanese so of course she doesn't have an xbox. Xbox should've moneyhatted Silent Hill 4 at the very least

>>717858442
This. Like do you fags NOT own both an Xbox and a PS2? Who fucking cares if X game is better on Y console, just interchange you little retards.

>>717869304
>360 can play like 95% of original Xbox games.
but it can't play the one i need it to play

>>717854395
>"playstation exclusive"
>most games have gotten remasters and are playable on PC and modern consoles

>>717878652
we used to have a name for scum like you around here, now pick a side to endlessly fight over for no reason or fuck off

>>717853065
You are retarded.