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Anonymous No.717858321 [Report] >>717858552 >>717859118 >>717859894 >>717860447 >>717860559 >>717862057 >>717865681 >>717868692 >>717868881 >>717868938 >>717869947 >>717870061 >>717870202 >>717871310 >>717871747 >>717871912 >>717872443 >>717874696 >>717875820 >>717876838 >>717876939 >>717877162 >>717880096 >>717880486
Play Wilds
Anonymous No.717858471 [Report]
made for me
Anonymous No.717858503 [Report] >>717858801 >>717858892 >>717868753 >>717870251 >>717871346 >>717877114 >>717881441
is the performance fixed yet?
Anonymous No.717858552 [Report] >>717873721
>>717858321 (OP)
dogshit gameplay
dogshit story
dogshit characters
dogshit monetization
dogshit game company
>B-B-BUT
I'll pass
Anonymous No.717858801 [Report] >>717859773 >>717870521
>>717858503
Depends.
Did you upgrade your PC?
Anonymous No.717858892 [Report]
>>717858503
no lmao
Anonymous No.717859118 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
Anything you might want to conceivably stick around to grind for, like NPC outfits, chat emotes, or camp designs, are all locked behind a cash shop instead.
Anonymous No.717859303 [Report] >>717860239
with each update they release I play for like an hour or 2 and then get bored and stop playing, even though Lagi was pretty fun I just didn't want to continue playing.
Anonymous No.717859571 [Report]
Monster Hunter on autopilot
Anonymous No.717859773 [Report] >>717860910 >>717862178
>>717858801
no amount of PC upgrades will make Wilds playable nor good
Anonymous No.717859894 [Report] >>717863378
>>717858321 (OP)
>only good thing about the game is lewd fan art
Being neighbors with OW and Horizon is a bad street to be on
Anonymous No.717860168 [Report] >>717860626
Those faces are uggo, and the mocap is fucking terrible. Some of the worst mocap I've seen in ages, too much flourish, looks extremely fake.

I see better looking characters in older games with slightly less cartoonish animations. Game play is a moot issue since it sucks compared to earlier entries.

They went woke design like Aloy and FF7, so nothing to see here.
Anonymous No.717860239 [Report]
>>717859303
Only two of the five people I know who bought the game went back to it for TU1 and none of them did it for TU2. This never happened with the previous two games, in fact nobody even had to come back to those games when TUs dropped because they hadn't actually stopped playing in the first place.
Anonymous No.717860275 [Report]
I fought lagi and seregios like 2 times and just stopped logging back in afterwards. The shader compilation time alone makes me not wanna bother launching it again after a few weeks break.
I was so hopeful for this game too. I don't feel ripped off but I feel like it was a huge wasted opportunity.
Anonymous No.717860331 [Report] >>717868914 >>717877309
For fucks sakes Capcom, you JUST had to do World again without the gimmicks. If you'd kept the slinger, sure, fine, whatever it was hardly OP.
Crutchclaw, wirebugs and the taxi chicken are all fucking gamebreaking.
I actually enjoyed the satisfaction of getting better, learning my weapon, learning monsters. You can basically fucking delete anything that isn't arch tempered and what the fuck is the point of the huge open world map if you run through it and hardly ever interact cause you're on an auto-running mount?
The campsites should be static too, there was satisfaction in finding shortcuts, rare mineral/bone nodes, new camp sites, unlocking canteen ingredients.
It just feels like they want MH to be playable by lobotomites. I enjoyed MH because it was one of the last few games you had to strategically plan for, there wasn't difficulty sliders, or health bars, or boss skips.
Now it's basically slop you can rush through in an afternoon.
Honestly not been so disappointed since fucking spore.
Anonymous No.717860373 [Report] >>717862301
Naaah Im okay. They tried to sell me a jank wii port an then they ruined sf6. They will just have to make due without my money.
Anonymous No.717860447 [Report] >>717886920
>>717858321 (OP)
oh i'm gonna play Wilds alright, hehehe. play Wilds while WILDing my DICK
Anonymous No.717860559 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
Someone..the copypasta, please.
Anonymous No.717860626 [Report]
>>717860168
>Those faces are uggo, and the mocap is fucking terrible
Now this is just you being a contrarian for the sake of it.
Wilds sucks but the animations and mocap are the best in the entire series.
Anonymous No.717860910 [Report] >>717861342
>>717859773
You actually can, with a 5090, but the 5090 won't fix the retarded and intrusive storie, shit new monsters, lack of content, complete dogshit streamlined gameplay and ps3 graphics.
Anonymous No.717861342 [Report] >>717867437
>>717860910
>you can but you can't
bruh
also 5090 is shit I'd rather switch to fucking AMD than pick up a new njudea, how the fuck do you deprecate PhysX seriously njudea is full retard now
Anonymous No.717861467 [Report]
Yesh I'll play Wild Hearts
Anonymous No.717862057 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
No thanks. I'm too busy swimming around in 3Tri.
Anonymous No.717862178 [Report] >>717862571 >>717867794
>>717859773
works on my machine (ps5 base model)
Anonymous No.717862301 [Report] >>717863886 >>717864054 >>717864169
>>717860373
>doesnt like Wilds
>doesnt like SF6
damn bro you have some shit taste
Anonymous No.717862571 [Report]
>>717862178
L
Anonymous No.717863378 [Report] >>717869820
>>717859894
>Horizon
I find it hard to believe that game has any good porn
Anonymous No.717863886 [Report] >>717867869
>>717862301
Nobody likes Wilds, anon. It's one of the few times all sides of the equation have agreed on a fact about an MH game.
Anonymous No.717863975 [Report]
>daily milds seethe thread
Anonymous No.717864054 [Report]
>>717862301
no one likes half-rice
capcom wouldn't have called it a failure if it was popular
Anonymous No.717864169 [Report]
>>717862301
>implying Wilds is likeable
What's so good about the game?
Anonymous No.717865565 [Report] >>717871128
https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/28052552/post/124210579
Anonymous No.717865681 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
not even this semen demon is enough to pull me back sorry
Anonymous No.717867437 [Report] >>717867813
>>717861342
I said you can """fix""" the performance brute forcing it, but there's no hope for the rest of the game kek
Anonymous No.717867794 [Report] >>717867921 >>717868883
>>717862178
>works on my machine (ps5 base model)
I'm sure it does
Anonymous No.717867813 [Report] >>717868694
>>717867437
yeah fair enough, you did indeed say that
too bad the answer for AAA sloppa is "just get a better PC LOL" as if that somehow excuses the terrible developer optimization and terrible publisher slave-driving
Anonymous No.717867869 [Report] >>717868670
>>717863886
People are still playing though.
Anonymous No.717867921 [Report]
>>717867794
holy shit
looks like fucking james camerons avatar for the ps3
Anonymous No.717868670 [Report]
>>717867869
Oh no no no no
Anonymous No.717868692 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
I can’t believe I barely play this after launch. I fagged out at every Mh game but this just didn’t have the legs to keep me playing
Anonymous No.717868694 [Report] >>717869836
>>717867813
That's why i don't buy, nor do i play it.
Cracom and all these TripleA shitters can go to hell with these unoptimized bullshit.
Anonymous No.717868753 [Report]
>>717858503
Its getting worse with each new monster lol
Anonymous No.717868881 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
why the fuck would I want to play Wilds?
Anonymous No.717868883 [Report] >>717869274 >>717869441 >>717870131
>>717867794
I think it looks really good on the base ps5. runs a lot better than World did on the ps4 as well.
Anonymous No.717868914 [Report]
>>717860331
It’s the latest in a long list of games that change for people that don’t play the game rather than for people that do.
Billy No.717868938 [Report] >>717869090
>>717858321 (OP)
I finished the normal ranks, thinking that the retarded, gay, faggy, cunt rail trailing sections were over, but as soon as i saw that the forst one on High Rank was that, i quit that shit. Capcom better step the fuck up with their games, cause RE4make was fucking dogshit aswell
Anonymous No.717869090 [Report] >>717869441 >>717869512 >>717870131
>>717868938
damn bro the longest seikret talk and run section is 5 at most, if that. relax bro, its just the introduction to the monster and you’ll never see it again after that.
Anonymous No.717869274 [Report] >>717869435
>>717868883
Why don't you post a screenshot of Wilds on base PS5 then?
Anonymous No.717869435 [Report]
>>717869274
that is on a base ps5 moran
Anonymous No.717869441 [Report] >>717869556
>>717868883
>>717869090
>can make any character
>huge customization possibilities practically endless
>makes a 40 year old laotian spaniard larper
you are fucking gay lol
Billy No.717869512 [Report] >>717869649
>>717869090
It's a fucking open world game, i don't fucking WNAT SOME WHORE T9 GIVE ME EXPOSITION AND WHERE TO GO AND LOOK FOR SHIT! If i wanted to get handholded in an open world game, i'd buy a Gay Station 5, popcorn, soda and 10 copies of whatever garbage those faggots play. Is wear to got if tailing missions fucked off that shit game, wnd the retard bird controlled like the dog from Rise, this game would be the best shit ever
Anonymous No.717869556 [Report] >>717869660
>>717869441
it fits the wilds setting bro. I dunno at least I thought so.
Anonymous No.717869649 [Report] >>717869873
>>717869512
youre dumb as fuck.
Anonymous No.717869660 [Report] >>717869781
>>717869556
>gives him a Fu Manchu
Anonymous No.717869781 [Report]
>>717869660
yea cool huh? lmao
Anonymous No.717869820 [Report]
>>717863378
Apone3D does some good Aloy work.
Anonymous No.717869836 [Report]
>>717868694
Yeah, fuck Crapcum products. They lost their touch.
Billy No.717869873 [Report] >>717870064
>>717869649
Yeah? And you suck Crapcum dick
Anonymous No.717869947 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
When they release the G-rank version of the game maybe, World 2 fucking sucks
Anonymous No.717870061 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
I took almost a 2 months break and got back into it this weekend for the event quests and rewards

It's fun. It's just not "omg i must play every day nonstop" fun like it was with World
Anonymous No.717870064 [Report] >>717870482
>>717869873
>reee stop playing video games!
well you see, anytime I ask you faggots to recommend me some other games or to name a better developer I am always met with silence. so how can I know any better? guess I’ll just stick to having a blast with Capcom games.
Anonymous No.717870131 [Report] >>717870209
>>717868883
>>717869090
Why does it look so blurry? Wtf even are these textures lmao
Anonymous No.717870181 [Report] >>717870205
is this an always online game? can i pirate it?
Anonymous No.717870202 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
its a garbage game no thanks.
Anonymous No.717870205 [Report]
>>717870181
not cracked yet
Anonymous No.717870209 [Report] >>717870953 >>717871773
>>717870131
what game are you comparing Wilds to bro? I think it looks ridiculously good.
Anonymous No.717870251 [Report] >>717870402 >>717870521
>>717858503
For your 1060 3gb toaster?
No.
Anonymous No.717870402 [Report]
>>717870251
game runs like shit even for people with 5090's lmao
turn off DLSS and FG
Anonymous No.717870463 [Report]
it runs fine on my 4070
Anonymous No.717870465 [Report]
Wilds is genuinely bizarre visually. On pc, it looks fine to me while playing it but when I exit out and check screenshots it looks way worse.
Billy No.717870482 [Report] >>717870559
>>717870064
>"reee stop playing video games!"
No one is holding your söylent hands, faggot. If you want to play dogshit games, go ahead
Anonymous No.717870521 [Report] >>717872338
>>717858801
>>717870251
>bro just get a 5090
>ummm actually you need to turn on frame gen and upscale from 720p
clowns
Anonymous No.717870559 [Report] >>717871241
>>717870482
>dogshit game
let me guess, you will never name a single one these supposedly non dogshit games you play?
yea I figured lol.
Anonymous No.717870562 [Report]
Why do people lose their shit over games their 10 year old rigs cant run?
Anonymous No.717870701 [Report]
Why do people play mediocre games on their 5090's with DLSS and FG enabled and act like they're superior?
Anonymous No.717870953 [Report] >>717871202 >>717871214
>>717870209
World unironically looks better. Also it's areas don't look like shit in every weather condition besides Clear/Daytime/Plenty. All while requiring HALF the processing power of Wilds.
Anonymous No.717871040 [Report]
>why are nvidiatards using features they paid for
Anonymous No.717871128 [Report]
>>717865565
Nice chocolate cock
Dude's other art is disgusting
Anonymous No.717871202 [Report]
>>717870953
It's so sad they blew so much on the different locale versions. With Wyveria, Basin, and Cliffs, I sometimes genuinely can't even tell what the different versions change as far as looks go. I think though, that sandtide can look kind of cool but most of the others are just uglier. The famine in Scarlet Forest seemed like a neat idea but the dulled lighting and stuff just makes it look awful.
Anonymous No.717871214 [Report] >>717871773 >>717872482 >>717873676
>>717870953
World is definitely a great looking game but to claim Wilds isnt a pretty big improvement in every aspect in terms of visuals and animations is really disingenuous and makes me think you either are not seeking to argue in good faith or you never played Wilds.
Billy No.717871241 [Report] >>717871349
>>717870559
Elden Ring, Rise, Ninja Gaiden the new one, Ender Lilies, Nine Sols
Anonymous No.717871310 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
Take denuvo off and I will.
Anonymous No.717871346 [Report] >>717871560
>>717858503
It werks for me. If you're running a GPU worse than a ps5 than you've got bigger issues, thirdie.
And don't run it on Ultra, find a guide on youtube to tweak the settings for the best performance + visuals ( like every other pc game )
>t. 4090 + 7800x3d
Anonymous No.717871349 [Report] >>717872385
>>717871241
but I already play Elden Ring and Ninja Gaiden, great games.
as for the other 2 well I played magnolia and as for nine souls, well I dont play indie western shits sorry bro.
Anonymous No.717871560 [Report] >>717871647 >>717871762
>>717871346
>"I spent 3 grand for my PC so I can run this game at medium with frame gen and upscale to 1080p, runs perfectly dud 72 fps! :DDDDD"
Anonymous No.717871647 [Report] >>717871707
>>717871560
well if your toaster still cant run it at max then it dont matter how much you over paid for it you dumb ass lmao!
Anonymous No.717871707 [Report] >>717871772
>>717871647
post benchmark
Anonymous No.717871747 [Report] >>717872157
>>717858321 (OP)
Waiting for the expansion at this point, don't have any interest to come back and hunt one new monster every two months and collect event gear I'll never wear.
Anonymous No.717871762 [Report] >>717871887 >>717873330
>>717871560
try stable 140 without framegen, but yes, seethe more
Worldsperms can all have melties over the graphical state of the game, but they are the reason for it because Crapcum really thought World's graphical fidelity (and story) was what made it possible with the normalfaggot crowd.
If it was up to me I'd have something more akin to Rise but with way crisper textures and geometry, and that's it. I'm not fond of this retarded open world cpu raping ugly "cinematic" dunes bullshit.
Anonymous No.717871772 [Report]
>>717871707
already told you my machine is a (ps5 base model).
Anonymous No.717871773 [Report] >>717871854 >>717872438
>>717871214
>>717870209
>what the game really looks like on the average 4080
Anonymous No.717871854 [Report] >>717872240
>>717871773
get a ps5 then.
that is literally not my problem bro.
Anonymous No.717871887 [Report] >>717872234
>>717871762
>rice fag
im sorry i didnt know you are mentally challenged
ill let you be
Anonymous No.717871912 [Report] >>717872373
>>717858321 (OP)
she's cute
Anonymous No.717872157 [Report]
>>717871747
TU2 was actually really good. Both Steve and Lagi were fantastic, and the layered weapon system is great for an excuse to actually hunt the other monsters, the weapon rebalancing has been well executed so far (especially hammer), AT Duna is great as well, new weapons and gear are pretty balanced. Not saying the game is fixed or whatever but man is it in a way better state than base Rise or World were after their first couple updates. Hopefully they don't fuck it up with the upcoming "endgame" update tomorrow that seems to be adding some kind of Guild Quest / Anomaly grinding system.
Anonymous No.717872234 [Report] >>717872389
>>717871887
No, something "like Rise" graphically and map-wise, except higher poly and better textures like world.
Gameplay? God fucking no, I want MHFU-tier gameplay weight but with modern controls and handling, and maybe slightly expanded (but still slow) movesets.
Anonymous No.717872240 [Report] >>717872413 >>717875117
>>717871854
that footage is from a ps5
Anonymous No.717872338 [Report]
>>717870521
>rtx 2060
bro cant get this decade old shitbox to run top of the line games
Anonymous No.717872373 [Report] >>717872693
>>717871912
gotta be ironic, she looks like the mole secretary from FTX
Billy No.717872385 [Report] >>717872467
>>717871349
>western
Retard
Anonymous No.717872389 [Report] >>717872465
>>717872234
World 2 on MT Framework and a formal apology for clutch claw, and or a true sequel to 3u/4u would be great
Anonymous No.717872413 [Report] >>717872491 >>717872791
>>717872240
well I hope for your sake you still have the receipt because your console seems to be faulty.
Anonymous No.717872438 [Report]
>>717871773
>unironically using beta footage
Anonymous No.717872443 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
Nah.
Anonymous No.717872465 [Report]
>>717872389
>World 2
You got that buddy. Capcum listened. They doubled down on all of their World decisions with Wilds.
>formal apology for clutch claw
kys
>and or a true sequel to 3u/4u would be great
ok don't kys you're alright
Anonymous No.717872467 [Report]
>>717872385
let me guess, chink or korean?
still pass.
Anonymous No.717872482 [Report] >>717872550
>>717871214
I will concede that the animations in Wilds are very high quality.
But the overall presentation is a total mess. Every one of your pics has some sort of artifact, fucked up textures or was taken in a very specific area under the perfect conditions. And it's pretty much guaranteed that it's going to look blurry regardless unless you're somehow playing the game in native 4k.
Meanwhile anyone who has actually played the game on an average machine can tell you that those artifacts and shit textures are fucking everywhere and that they're the rule, not the exception.
Anonymous No.717872491 [Report] >>717872690
>>717872413
I'm sure this screenshot looks really good from far away, but not one thing in this picture looks good
Anonymous No.717872514 [Report]
>Niggers in current year defending corporations for not optimizing and instead cutting costs by hiring shit skins
What a world. Don't forget this chart
Anonymous No.717872550 [Report] >>717872598 >>717872613 >>717872627 >>717872723 >>717872791
>>717872482
serious question, what exactly looks bad in your screenshot?
Anonymous No.717872598 [Report]
>>717872550
how about the ps3 era textures on the pots
or the fucked up stretchy rocks
Anonymous No.717872613 [Report]
>>717872550
I would say the only thing that doesn't look like complete shit is the Chatacabra fem armour and titsmith's leather jacket. That's it.
Anonymous No.717872627 [Report]
>>717872550
Did your parents not have vision insurance? It's a blurry mess.
Anonymous No.717872690 [Report] >>717872797 >>717872876
>>717872491
I think it looks really good. Most certainly a big improvement over World.
Anonymous No.717872693 [Report]
>>717872373
maybe if you squint after getting pepper sprayed
Anonymous No.717872723 [Report] >>717872797
>>717872550
Not him but some the textures are pretty disgusting. The brazier, rocks underneath it and the background woman's clothes all look pretty fucking ass.
Anonymous No.717872791 [Report] >>717872926 >>717873207
>>717872413
>>717872550
This has got to be the most embarrassing shill I've ever seen.
I hope they're paying you well enough.
Anonymous No.717872797 [Report] >>717872921
>>717872723
here>>717872690
Anonymous No.717872876 [Report] >>717872959
>>717872690
In some places, at certain angles, but so many times World just looks better because
>no RE-engine dithering blurry shit
>better art direction
Fuck man, I think even Rise looks better when maxed out on PC and that shit has some of the worst art direction in the series, but at least the textures are nice and crisp and nothing is blurry.
Anonymous No.717872921 [Report] >>717872998
>>717872797
>717872413
Hope you get paid for this because otherwise it's pathetic.
Anonymous No.717872926 [Report] >>717873080 >>717873208
>>717872791
once again, what game are you comparing Wilds to?
I think Wilds looks really good man, dunno what else to tell you. I feel like you nigger are trying to gaslight me into believing it looks bad but aint gonna work bro Im too big brained for that shit.
Anonymous No.717872959 [Report] >>717873115
>>717872876
This. In a monster fight sometimes you'll get like 180 frames of kino, but the lows are way lower than world and the highs really aren't that much higher and they're fleeting to boot
Anonymous No.717872998 [Report] >>717873264
>>717872921
thats not that many times lol, am I not allowed to voice my opinion here? are you a cop?
Anonymous No.717873080 [Report] >>717873140
>>717872926
um i dont think they will pay you if you say the n word
Anonymous No.717873115 [Report]
>>717872959
Also very randomly walking through the scarlet violet during the day in certain areas seriously looks like the best looking game of all times. Then hunt moves from that one area with all of the red flowers and sunbeams and it goes back to an ugly blurry blob mess. kek.
Anonymous No.717873140 [Report] >>717873228
>>717873080
whats the n word?
Anonymous No.717873207 [Report]
>>717872791
He's been doing the exact same song and dance in every Wilds thread I've seen over the past few days, but he's so blatant about it that it's making me think he's actually doing it for free. You'd think a paid shill would at least try to be subtle.
Anonymous No.717873208 [Report]
>>717872926
>I FUCKING LOVE ANTISOUL GAS
Anonymous No.717873228 [Report]
>>717873140
>they can't turn off the anti-soul gas because it would expose those copy pasted low res stone blobs in the background
>clouds are all cum blobs
Why is RE-engine like this?
Anonymous No.717873264 [Report] >>717873414
>>717872998
Don't worry, I'm going through the archives and pulling numbers on all the pics you keep posting, making a single collage to see for myself and show everyone how you stand.
Anonymous No.717873317 [Report]
>every one of these little rocks has physics
Anonymous No.717873330 [Report]
>>717871762
The CPU rape is the problem.
I can't be assed to buy and set up a new mobo+cpu+ram just for this piece of shit.
Anonymous No.717873390 [Report] >>717873589 >>717875843
Straight up, some of the skyboxes in Tri look miles better than some of the zones in wilds, further, Fallow was such a stupid fucking mistake that exemplifies everything wrong with Wilds
>oh wow, not only does it run unacceptably poorly on literally every platform, it also looks like shit
Anonymous No.717873414 [Report] >>717873496 >>717874540
>>717873264
nigger you think I give two fucks what a faggot like you think says or does. would be cool if you made a nice collage of all my shitposts. go ahead faggot.
Anonymous No.717873464 [Report]
>still avatarposting his ugly seamonkey
Anonymous No.717873496 [Report] >>717873523
>>717873414
Not but you've posted this same exact screenshot a good dozen times and I'm not even in most of these threads
Anonymous No.717873520 [Report]
Anonymous No.717873523 [Report] >>717873581
>>717873496
okay and?
Anonymous No.717873581 [Report] >>717873659
>>717873523
And that kind if proves the other anons point
Anonymous No.717873589 [Report]
>>717873390
That's because Wild's doesn't even really have skyboxes. A well made high res skybox is always going to look better than actually rendering a real physical world that's really far away, which is also extremely stupid and unoptimized. World's skybox in the base game town looks 100x better than Wild's cum cloud sky with 1000 blurry far away low poly stone piles and anti soul gas.
Anonymous No.717873659 [Report] >>717873706
>>717873581
what was his point?
Anonymous No.717873676 [Report]
>>717871214
>to claim Wilds isnt a pretty big improvement in every aspect in terms of visuals
Wilds is fucking ugly, simple as.
Anonymous No.717873706 [Report] >>717873814
>>717873659
That you're a shill
Anonymous No.717873721 [Report] >>717876830
>>717858552
How the fuck do you miss the objective largest problem of dogshit technical implementation?
Apply yourself, anon.
Anonymous No.717873814 [Report]
>>717873706
I just like Wilds bro, its a a fun game.
is this not. MH Wilds thread? wtf.
Anonymous No.717873841 [Report]
Iceborne town where all the cats are cutting wood and shit looks better than anything, ANY THING, in Wilds
Anonymous No.717873916 [Report] >>717874005 >>717874368
Wilds is the modern day Crisis (but without the charm)

It only looks good on gigarigs
Anonymous No.717873960 [Report] >>717874051
>it looks good it looks good
>washed out 540p garbage
Anonymous No.717874005 [Report] >>717874379
>>717873916
Yeah?
Anonymous No.717874051 [Report] >>717874093
>>717873960
>says the guys who can only post youtube screenshots
Anonymous No.717874093 [Report] >>717874210
>>717874051
>not even worth pirating
Anonymous No.717874210 [Report] >>717874387 >>717874396
>>717874093
Objectively speaking, if you value a game so little that you won't even buy it, why would you waste time playing it pirated?
Anonymous No.717874368 [Report]
>>717873916
Even when it looks good it just looks weird and blurry. I've heard people say this is some kind of dithering problem with RE engine but idk and I'm not a giganerd. Regardless it's such a misstep for the gameplay centric series of Monster Hunter to try and focus on story, graphics and large levels. They're fucking stupid for even trying.
Anonymous No.717874379 [Report] >>717874440
>>717874005
>yeah well when you zoom in on 1/20th of the compressed image on my iphone it looks mildly worse
Anonymous No.717874387 [Report]
>>717874210
>objectively why would you [subjective question]
Anonymous No.717874396 [Report]
>>717874210
autism
Anonymous No.717874440 [Report]
>>717874379
>>yeah but when you look at the image I posted of course it's going to look bad
Go on
Anonymous No.717874469 [Report] >>717874629 >>717874631
What the fuck is wrong with this franchise that it attracts the worst of all worlds?
Like fuck man, every MH thread is filled with annoying doomposters or mentally ill schizos and now there blatant shills too.
This sucks.
Anonymous No.717874540 [Report] >>717874580 >>717874803 >>717875578 >>717875951
>>717873414
Sorry I took a while. So let's see how our mistery nigga fares.
>snoyfag, proudly announcing his ps5 (base model)
>constantly butthurt about being called brown and deflecting, asking about "the best race".
>having a blast/having fun
>defends dd2, god knows why
>has been at it since at least march
Anonymous No.717874580 [Report]
>>717874540
grim
Anonymous No.717874629 [Report]
>>717874469
>advertise game to every demographic
>everybody comes in your house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_F6BDWUBQ
Anonymous No.717874631 [Report]
>>717874469
We all miss oldgen but we're all burned out of oldgen and no one even really plays oldgen anymore except for a handful of trannies on emulators.
Anonymous No.717874696 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
We just had our weekly thread from last nite. I'm too tired to shit on Milds; maybe another day ~
Anonymous No.717874803 [Report]
>>717874540
nice bro. thanks.
I dont get offendend in being called brown, I just ask what is the ubber leet top of the top race since brown jeets are considered the lowest tier. thats all, just to clear this out.
also, DD2 is a blast btw. Luv that game.
Anonymous No.717874840 [Report]
My wife is so cute
Anonymous No.717875090 [Report]
every screenshot I see of World/Wilds makes my eyes hurt. they are so blurry
Anonymous No.717875117 [Report]
>>717872240
Actually I believe this is real life footage of a beaver washing itself.
Anonymous No.717875378 [Report] >>717875451 >>717875490 >>717875646
https://youtu.be/lh0w0GcPfuU?si=TW_e2F-t76ielPY1&t=41
>1080p low settings for 30fps on a 3060
https://youtu.be/JZklWw4xGu4?si=SQjU0rQr7APC-EKW&t=986
>ancient gtx 1060 gets 40fps on 1080p native medium settings on battlefield 6
what was capcom smoking to make this run this bad
Anonymous No.717875451 [Report]
>>717875378
goyfield 6 doesn't have the power or visual fidelity and clarity of the reach for the moon engine
Anonymous No.717875490 [Report] >>717875974
>>717875378
They designed it around using framegen and then called it a day, whether to cut dev time or for a more insidious reason is for you to decide (india)
Anonymous No.717875578 [Report] >>717875731
>>717874540
it's almost sad ngl
Anonymous No.717875646 [Report]
>>717875378
stuffing maps with 50+ small monsters each with ai routines and body physics + shit like wind physics, water physics, sand physics, snow physics and their own weird implementation of global illumination and raytracing.
Anonymous No.717875731 [Report]
>>717875578
is it really that much? I never thought that the chans of all place would be trying to shame someone for being constantly online. sad ngl.
Anonymous No.717875820 [Report] >>717875975
>>717858321 (OP)
they fucked up my shotgun

genuinely atrocious changes to the guns
Anonymous No.717875843 [Report] >>717875903 >>717876492 >>717877926
>>717873390
Why exactly is Fallow bad?
I'm glad you people have finally learned that the reason areas are "dull" upon first entering is because of the Fallow and that it's simply one third of each area's appearance.
I didn't realise that so many players were toddlers who absolutely NEED it to be brightly coloured 24/7, you should try Diablo III, I heard it's right up your alley.
I wonder what you do when the sun goes down irl, but I guess you never leave your house so you've probably never seen it.
Anonymous No.717875860 [Report]
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>Blocking basically makes you invincible
>No cat cooking
>No endgame
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?
Anonymous No.717875903 [Report] >>717875960 >>717876213
>>717875843
You have to be over 18 and white to post here bud
Anonymous No.717875951 [Report]
>>717874540
>Nooooo you must derail every thread like me instead of playing games
PCtranny melty lmao
Anonymous No.717875960 [Report]
>>717875903
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.717875974 [Report]
>>717875490
The game was outsourced by many different teams ala RE6. They had to quickly piecemeal everything and ship it. That's why every single system is schizophrenic and half assed
Anonymous No.717875975 [Report] >>717876378
>>717875820
seregios hbg isn't bad
Anonymous No.717876213 [Report] >>717876616
>>717875903
he right dough, even in fallow it looks amazing. fighting a Rey Dau or Arkveld during fallow while their lighting attacks shine through the sandstorm and the wind blows and the monsters attacks set the grass on fire…cool af.
Anonymous No.717876378 [Report] >>717876515
>>717875975
I think they added the dodge reload to the Steve guns specifically to address the substantial fuckup but it just makes all the other guns feel like shit to use. Not only does it reload but it shaves off like 40 percent of your recoil animation if you're dodging.

The customization changes are heinously bad. The different levels of spread ammunition having the EXACT same recoil combined with the lack of ability to mitigate it in any way is so utterly bizarre. And then of course it still does significantly less damage compared to every other ammo type for god knows what reason. In the last two months they have increased the damage for Rapid Fire AND Chaser Shot Spread ammo by 40 and 60 percent, respectively. And it's still garbage

I had so much fun in Rise playing an adrenaline rush dodging shotgun LBG so when I tried it here I was so disappointed. Just another pendulum swing where they fuck shit up for absolutely reason on a random weapon.
Anonymous No.717876492 [Report] >>717876741
>>717875843
First impressions matter dumbass
Anonymous No.717876515 [Report] >>717877060
>>717876378
It's possible that this next update adds the Seregios reload skill to the new talisman pool. Could unfuck HBG and LBG.
Anonymous No.717876616 [Report] >>717876741 >>717876932
>>717876213
I think the hate for the fallow and inclemency is overblown but saying it looks amazing is still a stretch
starting the game in the ugliest version possible was a huge mistake
Anonymous No.717876620 [Report] >>717876780
Wilds and World both fucking suck.
Anonymous No.717876741 [Report] >>717876875 >>717876925 >>717877926 >>717882935
>>717876492
So you didn't play it after the first few hours.
Got it.

>>717876616
Games are really expected to look like Mario Kart as soon as you zone into an area for the first time? I don't get it; you people are always complaining about "we want more environmental storytelling" and "show don't tell" but you can't sit through the "boring" version of an area for ONE (1) quest before it becomes the exciting version? Are you actually toddlers?
Anonymous No.717876780 [Report]
>>717876620
(by Monster Hunter standards)
Anonymous No.717876830 [Report] >>717885662
>>717873721
How about FUCKING NO. How about I ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE GAME INSTEAD. Fucking dipshit retard. Just because a game runs at 10FPS doesn't suddenly excuse how dogshit the ACTUAL game as-designed is. Go fuck yourself.
Anonymous No.717876838 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
I did. I have no reason to play it again.
Anonymous No.717876875 [Report] >>717877423
>>717876741
>implying I even played this trash.
It looked horrible in previews so I didn't buy it
Anonymous No.717876925 [Report] >>717877423
>>717876741
>ONE (1) quest
thats just false, the plenty doesn't happen at all until you hunt the alpha doshaguma
Anonymous No.717876932 [Report] >>717877050
>>717876616
I don’t think its a stretch at all to claim it looks good in fallow. I think to its crazy to claim otherwise.
Anonymous No.717876939 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
I don't care about your daz3d looking trash. If I can't have sex with the monsters it's no buy. And I don't mean some furry trashy I mean the monster monster form. Feral.
Anonymous No.717877050 [Report] >>717877178
>>717876932
That looks awful, but I guess as an Indian, you are used to having brown shit in your eyes.
Anonymous No.717877060 [Report] >>717877258
>>717876515
I don't doubt it but it wouldn't really even do anything. There's no reason to use anything but Rapid Spread 3 and it's on three whole LBGs; there's no point to using a Spread 2 with a bigger magazine because you won't ever be reloading normally and all you're doing is doing less damage with zero tradeoff for it.

The two other LBGs with Rapid Spread 3 have Slugger and Artillery on and have worse affinity so it's not even really worth considering.

I understand this is a niche whinging but it's not like it HAD to be this way. Pierce and Normal are already much better and much safer to use so I don't understand why the director came into the little dev slave pens and personally mandated that Spread (on both guns) needed to be hot garbage pizza.
Anonymous No.717877114 [Report]
>>717858503
Nope
Anonymous No.717877162 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
You know very well she doesn't shave
Anonymous No.717877178 [Report]
>>717877050
I dunno man. the way it looks with the sand blowing and clouds moving fast making the lighting of the environment constantly change. shit looks ridiculously good bro.
I really wonder what game you guys comparing Wilds to, it certainly cannot be to World or its previous titles.
Anonymous No.717877258 [Report] >>717877553
>>717877060
They gotta bring back different gun parts for you ranged niggas so you can pick and choose what kind of gun you want without being cucked by the game.
Spread is by far the most fun style so it's a shame. Only reason I played HBG at all in Milds is because of the seregios one.
Anonymous No.717877309 [Report] >>717877375
>>717860331
>I enjoyed MH because it was one of the last few games you had to strategically plan for, there wasn't difficulty sliders, or health bars, or boss skips.
This doesn't actually help sell the game to new people. Capcom doesn't care about maintaining their hardcore playerbase, they want new players. Hope this helps.
Anonymous No.717877375 [Report] >>717881126
>>717877309
And now they lost both audiences
Anonymous No.717877423 [Report]
>>717876875
And there it is.
I accept your concession.

>>717876925
How about the other areas? Plains is literally the first area, anon.
Anonymous No.717877470 [Report] >>717877792
>actually wilds looks great
>posts literally the ugliest shit I've ever seen
Anonymous No.717877553 [Report]
>>717877258
They really should; I don't play ranged except for Spread LBG but like virtually every other change they made to 'remove friction from the experience' it's a few steps forward and five or six steps back. Any cool new ideas are buried under a deluge of asinine changes.
Anonymous No.717877792 [Report] >>717878112
>>717877470
The things you have seen must be pretty damn limited if you can think that.
Anonymous No.717877926 [Report] >>717878129 >>717878502 >>717878582
>>717875843
>>717876741
>but you can't sit through the "boring" version of an area for ONE (1) quest before it becomes the exciting version?
A better question: why is there a "boring" version in the first place?
After the story mode, literally why would anyone CHOOSE to play on any of the locales during the Fallow?

It looks like shit and doesn't even provide any meaningful gameplay changes besides locking some wildlife behind specific weather conditions. Riveting.

Inclemencies aren't any better btw. In fact, Scarlet Forest's deep rain is so bad it turns the pretties map in the game into the fugliest one every time it's active.
Only Plains and Basin's inclemencies actually look good.
Anonymous No.717878112 [Report] >>717878876
>>717877792
>the things for you to have be seeing must be pretty damn limited if you are to be thinking of that
Good morning saar
Anonymous No.717878129 [Report]
>>717877926
the heavy rain in the forest looks really good thoooooough! wtf man you fags are truly insufferable geez.
Anonymous No.717878502 [Report] >>717879793
>>717877926
>A better question: why is there a "boring" version in the first place?
The question is facetious; it's boring TO YOU "because it looks like shit" because your dopamine receptors are fried and you need flashing bing bing wahoo lights 24/7.
It's called "Wilds" because it's set in the wilds, and tries to show you a real, living ecosystem. I can tell you have absolutely no outdoor hobbies or experience because that's exactly what happens; the environment changes over time. It's not even the same in each area; it's telling a story about each region. Everything that is alive exists as part of a cycle; I'm sorry you missed that part but you're a part of it too. Even relationships have cycles, not that you're ever experienced one.
>After the story mode, literally why would anyone CHOOSE to play on any of the locales during the Fallow?
What reason is there to specifically be in the Plenty? In fact, which one is it you "like"; is it the exciting Inclemency or the bright and colourful Plenty? I mean you answered your own question; some things change depending on the cycle. Considering they give you the ability to control the cycle you play in, what exactly is your problem with it?

>Inclemencies aren't any better btw. In fact, Scarlet Forest's deep rain is so bad it turns the pretties map in the game into the fugliest one every time it's active.
I mean, how is that NOT interesting? Do you get upset when the sun goes down because it turns your basement from an exciting anime dungeon to a drab incel lair?

You posted an excellent image illustrating the point of the cycle. How cool is it that you can experience the wilds both in a torrential downpour and a lush tropical summer? Why are you arguing for LESS content? If you want the maps to be the same every single time, there are 5 prior generations of that very thing waiting for you.
Anonymous No.717878582 [Report]
>>717877926
I love how the inclemency rain looks in motion, especially in the lower parts of the forest with the floodwaters rushing through
Anonymous No.717878848 [Report] >>717879189
World unironically looks better than Wiilds to me. I think it's the lightning, most areas in Wilds look way too washed out and gray.
Anonymous No.717878876 [Report] >>717879106
>>717878112
lol lmao, you inserted extra shit into what I said and accuse me of being Indian? You;re just telling on yourself now, that or you are running it through some weird machine translation somehow.
Anonymous No.717878921 [Report] >>717879179
waiting for next portable game desu
Anonymous No.717879106 [Report] >>717879287
>>717878876
>lol lmaoing, you are the inserted extra shit for into what I was to say and accuse me of being de Indian
Good morning
Anonymous No.717879179 [Report]
>>717878921
Just play the Monster Hunter Now! It's an objectively amazing video game!
Anonymous No.717879189 [Report]
>>717878848
Oh wow it's the same opinion from 4 months ago i.e. "didn't play long enough to see even one Plenty"
Anonymous No.717879287 [Report] >>717879408
>>717879106
No, seriously, where are you pulling these extra magic words from, Mr. Indian?
Anonymous No.717879408 [Report] >>717879556 >>717879791
>>717879287
>no I am being de serious bloody bitch bastard benchod!
Anonymous No.717879556 [Report] >>717879656 >>717879791
>>717879408
I am speaking regular English. You however, appear to either have broken eyes or are Indian/some other ethnic type who can't actually understand English.
Anonymous No.717879656 [Report] >>717879791 >>717879817
>>717879556
>I am be speaking regular English!
Anonymous No.717879791 [Report] >>717879817
>>717879408
>>717879556
>>717879656
>Rajesh and Kumar are still arguing about random shit because they have nothing else to do!
Calm down, boys!
Anonymous No.717879793 [Report] >>717880440 >>717880480
>>717878502
>It's called "Wilds" because it's set in the wilds, and tries to show you a real, living ecosystem
>How cool is it that you can experience the wilds both in a torrential downpour and a lush tropical summer?
Both of those were great ideas on paper that WEREN'T realized in Wilds.
It failed because stuff like the torrential downpour you described doesn't actually do anything in game besides impair your visibility making shit like fighting Uth Duna for the first time a visual mess or increasing the fucking fog in these already blurry locales.

>What reason is there to specifically be in the Plenty?
Because it looks good, unlike Fallow and Inclemency.

>The question is facetious; it's boring TO YOU "because it looks like shit"
Bro, if people could set the game to stay on Plenty all the time, literally no one would ever see a Fallow again after the story mode.
Anonymous No.717879817 [Report] >>717880045
>>717879656
>>717879791
samefag
Anonymous No.717880045 [Report]
>>717879817
>SAR YOU ARE DE SAME!
Anonymous No.717880096 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
No. The art style alone filtered me.
Anonymous No.717880218 [Report]
My old ass CPU gets fucking obliterated by the openworld stuff on REengine.
Anonymous No.717880340 [Report] >>717880709 >>717880713
I'll be playing the game when the new update comes out but I still think it still sucks relative to the previous games. There's always been people who defend games that don't meet the standards set by the majority but I feel like it's a recent phenomena of people who respond to critics by telling them that they're shutting their eyes and ears so they can ignore the critique instead of trying to understand where it's coming from when simply acknowledging that other people have problems with it would be enough.

Either way, no idea why the fuck they thought releasing one of the most performance heavy games ever made would be a good idea when the price of upgrades can't be justified for a game that's replaceable by its predecessors and then still have it loaded with performance and graphics bugs.
Anonymous No.717880440 [Report]
>>717879793
>It failed because stuff like the torrential downpour you described doesn't actually do anything in game
What about-
>besides impair your visibility making shit like fighting Uth Duna for the first time a visual mess or increasing the fucking fog in these already blurry locales.
Oh so it does affect the gameplay. Huh

>Because it looks good, unlike Fallow and Inclemency.
Why don't you just look at porn 24/7 instead of going to work or doing literally anything else because "it looks better"?

>Bro, if people could set the game to stay on Plenty all the time, literally no one would ever see a Fallow again after the story mode.
But you literally can do that using the rest feature.
Anonymous No.717880480 [Report]
>>717879793
NTA but we basically have to luck-out that maybe the Wilds' expansion gets rid of all the failure, experimental additions the base game has. If I ever do try to find investigations, I try to find ones in plenty because the other 2 ruin the game and it's clear the systems fail to smoothly handle them.
Anonymous No.717880486 [Report]
>>717858321 (OP)
>play a shitty spin-off
nah, I'll wait for the switch 2 MH
Anonymous No.717880709 [Report]
>>717880340
game won't be content-complete until 2027. Wilds is made with the 60X0 series in mind
Anonymous No.717880713 [Report] >>717880851 >>717881251 >>717881356
>>717880340
Genuinely, I think a lot of people especially when it comes to Monster Hunter tend to have a horrific case of misremembering stuff like just how bad World and Iceborne both ran originally as well. I've seen a lot of Rise defenders cropping up in recent times too even though there are things from Rise that were ported into Wilds and then criticize Wilds for having that.
Anonymous No.717880851 [Report]
>>717880713
"all of /v/ is one person" moment
Anonymous No.717881126 [Report]
>>717877375
I'd wait until the expansion to see for sure if they can turn it around, 4chan is a very small pool of autists.
Anonymous No.717881251 [Report]
>>717880713
Nothing will ever top the niggas who instantly deflected to defending everything Rise did that was wrong a single day before when World did it on it's announcement for me. Brand loyalty makes for insane niggas.
Anonymous No.717881356 [Report]
>>717880713
Yeah, this website is full of toddlers who love to be contrarian, welcome to 4chan.
Anonymous No.717881408 [Report] >>717881542
Most weapons play like absolute shit in this game, casualization. SA feels so fucking weak if I don't spam that fuck ass new elemental discharge.
Anonymous No.717881441 [Report]
>>717858503
No. Literally all they've done is make the game use a couple hundred less MB of VRAM depending on your texture settings. Based on what the game looks like as it is, I really doubt they can do anything to push it for more performance. It would take a total rework of assets, their lighting/shadow solutions, etc.

If you have any knowledge of game engines and visual artistry you can see MH Wilds is literally bursting at the seams everywhere. They pushed the engine so hard with bullshit and already have extensively cut back on things like draw distance, shadow resolution, texture res, etc, to save performance. For all intents and purposes the game is actually very "optimized".. it's just built like shit. That's what makes it especially frustrating. There is no fixing it without serious visual downgrades in an already visually mediocre game.
Anonymous No.717881542 [Report] >>717882260
>>717881408
>(Weapon) feels so weak if I don't use (attack the entire weapon is oriented to setting up)

If you don't like building meter to access supers why are you even playing SA honestly?
Anonymous No.717882260 [Report] >>717882473 >>717882507
>>717881542
I think the issue anon has is that he doesn't want a weapon's optimal gameplay to be spamming a single move as much as possible, especially SA where its strongest move also has hyper armor to make it safer to spam. That's why I got bored with it too.
I personally play CB because it's one of the only weapons that needs a bare minimum modicum of thought in Wilds because it's playstyle hasn't really changed since 4U besides the shield buff not being lost anymore since World.
Anonymous No.717882473 [Report]
>>717882260
That's basically how I feel about SA too. It's too simple now. I like how the weapon looks and could work, but the big anime attack is a little gay and repetitive for me. Just a little variety goes a long way in a game like MonHun
Anonymous No.717882507 [Report] >>717883313
>>717882260
Every weapon's optimal gameplay is to use its most damaging move/combo as often as possible, it's true you can use FRS pretty much for free against the early/mid game monsters because they don't do enough damage through hyper armor but that's a consequence of enemies doing low damage and not actually the weapon design.
Anonymous No.717882935 [Report] >>717883616
>>717876741
First impression matter nigger. Wilds just looks like ass 90% of the time.
>Of the three seasons, one looks appealing
>the second is extreme stormy weather where you can't see shit
>the third is like the rainbow brite villains stole all of the joy from the world.
>even during the good season, things still normally look like ass since most of the zones are boring ass caves.
>DITHERING
>I
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Anonymous No.717883313 [Report]
>>717882507
>that's a consequence of enemies doing low damage and not actually the weapon design
both things are a problem if the overall experience results in something unsatisfying, just because fixing one will fix the whole problem doesn't mean that one of them can be free from blame
Anonymous No.717883437 [Report]
>>>/vg/
Go back.
Anonymous No.717883616 [Report] >>717884006
>>717882935
How do people still bring up dithering when World literally had it too? It was actually one of the first games I had ever played where I first saw it.
Anonymous No.717884006 [Report]
>>717883616
It's 10x worse in Wilds because most people are using DLSS/FSR and framegen. It looks horrendous
Anonymous No.717884430 [Report] >>717885494
Still funny that nothing can achieve native 3440x1440p 120fps on this game. Be another 4 years and 2 CPU gens (13800X3D) + Denuvo removal to achieve that.
Anonymous No.717885494 [Report] >>717885587 >>717886459
>>717884430
I will be VERY curious to see what this game runs like on current systems when denuvo gets removed. Denuvo's worst case examples of performance losses are in CPU limited games, and Wilds is incredibly CPU hungry.
Anonymous No.717885587 [Report]
>>717885494
The problem is Denuvo won't be removed from Wilds until 2027 and Wilds G in 2030 which is when new hardware, software, true performance mods and all TUs are finished lmao.
Anonymous No.717885662 [Report] >>717886063
>>717876830
There shouldn't be gameplay to comment on as it never gets to the starting line for anyone with bare minimum standards, dropped cunt.
Anonymous No.717886063 [Report]
>>717885662
if you even read the post I made you'll know "I'll pass" means I haven't played it yet and still don't
every friend who picked it up said they dropped it cause it sucks, it's total crap and a literal non-starter of an entry. 6th gen is a total wash and the B-Team isn't going to make it better with Rise 2
Anonymous No.717886459 [Report]
>>717885494
The only examples of GODnuvo having a performance impact are old games running on PCs with a 2005 cpu and 2025 GPU and getting 330fps instead of 350. Wilds does not have this problem.
Anonymous No.717886660 [Report] >>717887116
>tfw I couldn't motivate myself to play the new summer event at all
>haven't even bothered with Lagi and Sergi yet
I feel like the only think that's going to make me pick up wilds again is if they give me back an actual room to decorate with event items an let me display my endemic life collection. That added so much replayability to the game and made me want to earn all the medals collecting all the trophy sized fish. What were they fucking thinking giving us such an ugly tent....
Anonymous No.717886920 [Report]
>>717860447
dolphin shorts are a miracle of the universe
Anonymous No.717887116 [Report]
>>717886660
I skipped the street fighter event too. I was busy with other things, but it looked like the only semi desirable things were cash shop cash grabs.