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Anonymous No.717859403 >>717860906 >>717861270 >>717861356 >>717861361 >>717861368 >>717861663 >>717862093 >>717862445 >>717862674 >>717862701 >>717862752 >>717862982 >>717863102 >>717863251 >>717863470 >>717864073 >>717865125 >>717865241 >>717865348 >>717865405 >>717865665 >>717865695 >>717865765 >>717865882 >>717865943 >>717866618 >>717867053 >>717867109 >>717867180 >>717867763 >>717868068 >>717873571 >>717873672 >>717873938 >>717873991 >>717874183 >>717874278 >>717875521 >>717875848
Why do people not like Breath of the Wild again?
Anonymous No.717859458 >>717871876
its transphobic
Anonymous No.717859627 >>717866794
weapon breaking annoying
fuck all dungeons
Anonymous No.717859678 >>717860525
ubislop style open world with a grand total of 5 enemies and nothing to find except stack block on top of other block puzzles
Anonymous No.717860525 >>717861206 >>717862042
>>717859678
>with a grand total of 5 enemies
Zoomer thinks combat is the only thing to do in the game. This isnt soulsslop little bro.
Anonymous No.717860906
>>717859403 (OP)
it took me three attempts to get into it, I think what put me off at first was how big the game world was and you're not handed a horse. I did get over that hump though and like it now.
Anonymous No.717861206
>>717860525
>Zoomer thinks combat is the only thing to do in the game
No, I clearly mentioned the other thing you do in the game: Half life 2 physics puzzles.
Anonymous No.717861270
>>717859403 (OP)
I never liked zelda or nintendo games.
Anonymous No.717861356
>>717859403 (OP)
I don't know but I still have to beat the game to know for sure how great it is or isn't. I like the few hours I played so far. I'd like to see a big open world Zelda though where he has his original master sword weapon and these weapons don't break after just a few hits.
Anonymous No.717861361
>>717859403 (OP)
I was never able to get into Zelda. When I finally tried a few years ago, it felt like it was made for women and children. Just something about it, the tone is too gay. And not in a "I'm playing a game that has mostly girls in it but sometimes it shows fan service so you know who this is really for" kind of way.
Anonymous No.717861368 >>717862780
>>717859403 (OP)
Because it's not a good game. Everything it excels at is a supplementary design element while things like combat, exploration, and progression are afterthoughts. There's a reason everyone says the game peaks in Great Plateau, this 50+ hour game is so shallow it blows its entire load in the first 40 minutes.
Anonymous No.717861482
one of the most overrated games ever
Anonymous No.717861663
>>717859403 (OP)
botw is really mind blowing if you've only played nintendo consoles and never seen an open world game before
Anonymous No.717861965
>Enemy Design
>Puzzle Design
>World Design
>Level Design
>Music
>Story
That's about it. Hopefully the sequel fixes those elements.
Anonymous No.717862042
>>717860525
What else is there to do?
Anonymous No.717862093
>>717859403 (OP)
>Top of the mountain in Elden Ring
Sprawling labyrinthine dungeon with tons of secrets, items, and verticality with completely unique enemies, voiced NPCs, and a cinematic boss fight.

>Top of the mountain in BOTW
A puzzle where you put a rock into a circle of rocks to unlock a shrine with a single chest inside that has a weapon you already have two of.
Anonymous No.717862445
>>717859403 (OP)
The visuals are nice. Shame about how the dungeons and puzzles are designed for 5 year olds since there were a lot of interesting mechanics.
Anonymous No.717862674
>>717859403 (OP)
Honestly its weapon durability system is just so disastrous for my personal enjoyment of the game that it overwrites everything good that it does. At absolute best, the only thing is really contributes to the game is a fuckton of wholly unnecessary menuing.
Anonymous No.717862701
>>717859403 (OP)
No difficulty unlike the original
Anonymous No.717862752
>>717859403 (OP)
terrible gameplay, health system is fundamentally broken (getting more hearts means you just get one shotted more) etc etc
Anonymous No.717862780
>>717861368
lol
Anonymous No.717862982 >>717863005 >>717863470
>>717859403 (OP)
Its the best open world game of the last decade. The problem is, /v/iggers hate open world games.
Anonymous No.717863005
>>717862982
a badge of honor considering they love gacha
Anonymous No.717863102
>>717859403 (OP)
Big but empty world, dungeons aren't difficult, loses its luster quickly
Anonymous No.717863251 >>717863380 >>717863694
>>717859403 (OP)
Lots of people do, but all the indians, chinks and generally poor third worlders on /v/ seethe about it much like many other AAA games they can't afford

I remember when it first came out I wandered around exploring the area and got to Eventide island where you lose all your equipment and have to use things on the island to solve it's issues.
Banged my head against the wall doing that shit for like 8 hours with 3 Hearts and no other upgrades but it was fun as fuck.
Anonymous No.717863380 >>717863730
>>717863251
Botw and Totk are so tough compared to previous games
Anonymous No.717863470 >>717863670
>>717859403 (OP)
weapons breaking and we don’t get cool dungeon set pieces anymore
>>717862982
maybe open world games are just bad when they aren’t used for a sandbox?
Anonymous No.717863670
>>717863470
nah
Anonymous No.717863694 >>717863846 >>717864131
>>717863251
>I wandered around exploring the area and got to Eventide island where everyone with an IQ above 85 just spammed bombs at everything
>8 hours
Anonymous No.717863730 >>717865304 >>717865497
>>717863380
>Botw and Totk are so tough compared to previous games
I’ve always heard this but never understood it
in older zelda games, there were mini puzzles you had to solve to beat a boss (rolling under ganon, using both rods in lttp, bomb arrows, etc.) whereas I feel like combat in botw is almost always the same thing, abd there’s very little variation
literal only examples of a boss that doesn’t use that formula is malice ganon (no, I haven’t played totk)
Anonymous No.717863820
can't fish
Anonymous No.717863846 >>717863894
>>717863694
>only smart people play how I play
Anonymous No.717863894 >>717864128
>>717863846
>only smart people spend 8 hours on eventide island
Anonymous No.717863950
It's fun aside from weapon breaking. Temporary power simply doesn't feel satisfying. I'd rather mobs scale up as I progress.
Anonymous No.717864073
>>717859403 (OP)
Because the game was adored by everyone at the time, and /v/ HAS to be contrarian. See, the average poster here thinks hating popular things means they have taste.
Tell me I'm wrong, but I know I'm right.
Anonymous No.717864128
>>717863894
>spamming bombs and having zero creativity is high IQ
Anonymous No.717864131 >>717864283
>>717863694
Someone with an IQ over 85 would've read the part about having no upgrades and known that multiple enemies on the island were tough enough to tank multiple bombs and beat you to death in the process.

But of course, you'd have to have an IQ above 85.
Anonymous No.717864283
>>717864131
>they tanked my bombs and beat me to death in the process
Anonymous No.717865125 >>717865414
>>717859403 (OP)
dark souls is better, hell elden ring is better
Anonymous No.717865241
>>717859403 (OP)
Because it doesn't have a lush forest to explore like the left picture.
Anonymous No.717865304
>>717863730
you call those puzzles? worse you call them mini puzzles? why do you stretch so much dude
Anonymous No.717865348
>>717859403 (OP)
i liked it but my biggest gripe was a lack of a feeling of progression, having most of your tools unlocked at the start
and also a lack of incentive to explore, knowing its probly gonna be rupees
i didnt play the sequel
Anonymous No.717865405
>>717859403 (OP)
For me it's Weapon Degredation
Anonymous No.717865414
>>717865125
>no towns
Anonymous No.717865497 >>717866216
>>717863730
>complex physics >:(
>hold a to push block :o
Anonymous No.717865527 >>717865734
well to start off it looks like dogshit
also no dungeons
Anonymous No.717865606 >>717865734
durability, even when done well, isn't fun
Anonymous No.717865665
>>717859403 (OP)
Combo of garden variety /v/ contrarianism and counter-shilling by various entities upset by its success.
Anonymous No.717865695
>>717859403 (OP)
>i cant wait to see what i can find in this world
>oh its another copy of my weapon
Anonymous No.717865734 >>717866047
>>717865527
>>717865606
dump your folder and then leave the thread plz
Anonymous No.717865765
>>717859403 (OP)
held back by its console, tale as old as time
Anonymous No.717865882 >>717865953 >>717867303
>>717859403 (OP)
They made people wait like 6+ years to play gmod on the same map. Kinda soured the initial experience.
Anonymous No.717865943 >>717866016
>>717859403 (OP)
Because it's a Zelda game that takes a big fat shit on what a Zelda game is supposed to be. It does everything wrong.
Anonymous No.717865953 >>717867609
>>717865882
Imagine being so buck broken by Zelda that you spend your time making this
Anonymous No.717866016 >>717866115
>>717865943
>a Zelda game is supposed to be
You didn't buy Skyward Sword in 2011. Its your fault. You aren't a Zelda fan.
Anonymous No.717866047 >>717866174
>>717865734
dump what, my few screenshots of the game? i agree they're hideous, i wouldnt want to really look at them either
Anonymous No.717866115
>>717866016
>You didn't buy Skyward Sword in 2011
I did though.
Anonymous No.717866138
How has no one posted the one image that destroys BOTW and TOTK?
Anonymous No.717866174 >>717866318 >>717866468
>>717866047
>troon character
>butt ugly shield mod
Anonymous No.717866216 >>717866262
>>717865497
>complex
they literally just took code from the havok library
Anonymous No.717866262 >>717866517 >>717866554
>>717866216
nice headcanon
Anonymous No.717866318
>>717866174
>complaining about anon doing so when botw literally has a required cross dressing section to defeat the divine beast
Anonymous No.717866335
korok sneeds = gay
weapons break too fast = gay
no dungeons = gay
sell dlc as full priced new game = gay
30fps = gay
stuttering/ frametime jumps when loading new zones = gay
literally 2 villages = gay
ubisoft towers = gay
mastersword charge = gay
no stamina at the start = gay
can't cook more than 1 thing at a time = gay
no tools, only shit weapons = gay
bombs do 0 damage = gay
map petters out after the first two zones = gay
you can't climb in rain = gay

that's my list, i still liked it overall but its no got ya faggot
Anonymous No.717866434
BotW was a fun spinoff but it didn't need a sequel and the inventory management is godawful
Anonymous No.717866468
>>717866174
yeah i agree, thankfully nintendo made some really pretty npc's to look at
Anonymous No.717866517
>>717866262
look it up on their website
https://www.havok.com/havok-powered/
if you don’t believe me
Anonymous No.717866554 >>717866715
>>717866262
botw is built on havok, totk isn't
only canon we need is 1 to blow off ur head
Anonymous No.717866618
>>717859403 (OP)
I was expecting some quests or anything really. Also the same few enemies over and over. Once you climb a mountain a few times it gets old. If this is your first open world adventure you will love it, I play videogames and this does nothing interesting.
Anonymous No.717866715
>>717866554
totk does use havok physics at least to some extent
Anonymous No.717866794
>>717859627
+1
this
/thread
Anonymous No.717866919 >>717867020 >>717869631
>start playing BotW
>there's now daily BotW and TotK threads

GET OUT OF MY HEAD
Anonymous No.717867020
>>717866919
>now
Anonymous No.717867053
>>717859403 (OP)
Open world slop that shot real Zelda in the back of the head.
Anonymous No.717867109
>>717859403 (OP)
No soul
Anonymous No.717867180
>>717859403 (OP)
The game unironically peaks in the tutorial
Anonymous No.717867303
>>717865882
Shouldn't shown the aircraft plummeting to the ground and exploding after 5 seconds.
Anonymous No.717867609 >>717868001
>>717865953
as opposed to spending your time making the same stuff in zelda?
Anonymous No.717867763
>>717859403 (OP)
Let me think, it's boring, it's bland, it's easy, it's poorly designed and there are no dungeons.
Anonymous No.717868001
>>717867609
post your thigh high socks, sis
Anonymous No.717868068
>>717859403 (OP)
BotW is a dogshit game that wishes it was as good as Z1
Anonymous No.717869631
>>717866919
People are sick of MKWorld and beat Bonanza already, this is the next big thing to play because 60fps and 4k in Switch 2.
You're not special anon
Anonymous No.717871876
>>717859458
>The game with literal crossdressing is transphobic
Anonymous No.717873571
>>717859403 (OP)
Weapon breaking, no good dungeons, and a shit final boss. Tears of the Kingdom doubled down on everything I hated about Breath of the Wild but the final boss was better. I'm done with Nintendo though, Zelda lost all of it's prestige and identity.
Anonymous No.717873672
>>717859403 (OP)
I only like OOT and MM. All the other 3D Zelda games are all boring with shit writing. BOTW and TOTK even worse than the others as BOTW and TOTK have loads of cringey anime weeb shit.
Anonymous No.717873938 >>717874096 >>717874267
>>717859403 (OP)
Because it's nothing like the pic on the left.
Anonymous No.717873991
>>717859403 (OP)
it's not a Zelda game.
Anonymous No.717874096
>>717873938
Fucking saved I kek'd real hard
Anonymous No.717874183 >>717874642 >>717875470
>>717859403 (OP)
BotW is nothing like Zelda 1, the only thing BotW brought from Zelda 1 is Lynels. I replayed the game recently and I'm puzzled how the two are compared. Just look at this, if anything it carries the blueprint for ALttP.

>b-but you can go anywhere
Yeah no bro, the game still has a metroid like structure you need certain items to reach certain zones, you can do some dungeons out of order but if you stumble upon a later dungeon early on you stand no chance. The game is fundamentally designed to be played in a certain order, at least for a first playthrough, but it trusts you to find where to go next unlike the later games that guide the player more.
Anonymous No.717874267 >>717874702 >>717874707
>>717873938
>Assassin's Creed
this image screams snoy
Anonymous No.717874278 >>717874683
>>717859403 (OP)
It's not a proper Open World conversion of the Zelda traditions. It's just Ubisoft's "Assassin's Creed / Far Cry" type ordeal with Zelda stuff in it.
Anonymous No.717874421
The only decent open world game is Skyrimβ„’. No I'm not being ironic. And that's entirely thanks to the exploration being great and carrying the rest of the shitty game. I actually wanted to find out what's out there when I played Skyrim and went exploring to satisfy my curiosity, not to find fucking upgrade materials.
If the exploration is shit there's no merit in having an open world.
Anonymous No.717874494
ive never seen someone not like botw outside of /v/.
Anonymous No.717874642
>>717874183
Unironically, the biggest thing that has to be overhauled about BotW to Zeldafy it properly, is this
>Remove the "Towers"
>Remove 120 Shrines
>Replace it with 1 dungeon for each region
>Put bits of "level design" into the Open World that awards Heart Pieces and Stamina Upgrades directly
>Make some areas physically inaccessible to the player until they've found an item that can physically get them over there.
I can lax a little bit on the last point as Rafts and Korok Leaves show that Nintendo also Open Endified the "Zelda items" You can get weapons that throw like Boomerangs as well, but it's unreliable and so it's never used for any puzzle. But they basically have the foundations available in the free-form gameplay. But the problem is when you finally take the raft across a place that feels puzzly, you just get Shrine #93 or whatever, and it's 1 room that's over in a flash and you go back outside and feel like it was pointless because you don't need more hearts or Stamina now.

It's as if they made Super Mario 64 in a Zelda game. It's their way of pivoting the design when the Map is 20x larger than usual, but it starts to feel terrible when only 4 main dungeons exist, and there are 4 other regions in the game with literally nothing but Korok Seeds and Shrines in them, unless you count endlessly respawning enemies as "content".
Anonymous No.717874683
>>717874278
This x10000000
Anonymous No.717874702
>>717874267
>this image screams snoy
If one does not understand why Ubislop is subhuman video game content, one must nevermore comment on a Zelda thread.
You are not worthy, subhuman.
Anonymous No.717874707
>>717874267
By that logic, wouldn't snoys love this slop?
Anonymous No.717875470
>>717874183
>I replayed the game recently and I'm puzzled how the two are compared.
It's purely because Nintendo themselves directly compared them with some little prototype mockup of botw in zelda 1's style and other allusions to it. So a bunch of people just latched on to that as botw "going back to its roots" and a bunch of those people never even played zelda 1 to begin with.
Anonymous No.717875521 >>717875884 >>717876347
>>717859403 (OP)
What I hated most about it was how much it disincentivized ever opening chests so rewards were useless which took out most of the draw for exploring, which was already a chore to make worthwhile since half-decent inventory and stamina basically required undergoing the Korok Seed/Shrine grind.
It's a great game, don't get me wrong, but the one thing they absolutely failed was the balance between doing busywork and having fun. They did way way way too much of the former and barred the latter with retarded FOMO mechanics.
Anonymous No.717875848
>>717859403 (OP)
>everything fun the game has to offer is unlocked in the first 15 minutes of the game
>everything else breaks after 10 seconds of use
>hidden scaling based on time plays means that basic jobber enemies will eventually scale so hard that you break multiple weapons just to kill one, so eventually you just stop fighting monsters and exploring, and the game becomes an Ubisoft game of collecting POIs on the map
Anonymous No.717875884
>>717875521
My biggest problem other than hating that it isn't Zelda enough, was not exactly that it's a "busywork vs meaningful fun" problem, but that resonated with me because of something else.

I think that the game struggles to fully justify its Open Ended design. I don't blame the devs because this is the hardest thing about designing the game. But it has created a format where you often leap ahead of the actual "level" they put into the World, like that big fortification near Zora's River full of Lizalfos, but I've played the game 3 times and never actually go through it. But if you come at it from the Great Plateau and then the Wetlands area, assuming you never change direction, it kinda looks like the entrance to a level in a video game.

But by the time I discover that in my playthrough I'm at my 119th Shrine. I've done everything and I'm almost ready to beat Calamity Ganon. But the whole game has a lot of these moments. You've just decided to scale a mountain out of curiosity thinking "This is what the game was built for!!" but then you decide to check out the are in between you skipped over, and you realize that area was only meant to take you to the same location you've just gone to.

In that sense I find the "Open World" version of Zelda tiring, because it's overrated. It isn't even that good at making use of an entirely open sandbox, when it's often "4 different level designs that the player ignores, and explores in reverse, and finds nothing."

Playing TotK was an overbearing experience. Me carefully trying not to explore certain areas too early, because I already knew the game would be spoiled if I did so.
Anonymous No.717876347
>>717875521
They created great gameplay systems, BotW is fun to play on a moment to moment basis because of how much freedom it gives you to approach problems, there are a dozen of viable ways to clean a Bokoblin camp but they forgot to build a game around those mechancis so all you get is a giant map with copy pasted content. Except BotW is not Minecraft, the different systems are not enough to carry a 100+ hrs game, in a sandbox game like Minecraft you can create whatever the fuck you want, in BotW you are still playing Link and you are limited to what is available on the map, they tried to adress it with TotK but the nuts and bolts mechanics are so limited and janky that they're not even worth bothering with after 20hrs because it's faster and more efficient to do things the normal way.