Thread 717885651

reject rollslop
reject parryslop

return to HACK N SLASH WITH BIG TIDDY ELF BITCHES YEAHHHH

diablo clones were a blight on the action rpg genre
thank god they are dead

>>717885651 (OP)
YOU KNOW WHAT ANON, okay. I'll see if I can find a disc image and i'll slash them tiddies

>>717885651 (OP)
Who owns the IP? I'd pay for a decent PC port.

>>717886501
download chunking along slowly, ps2 core snagged in retroarch, now considering that i should use this time to go grab a beer and a sandwich so i'm suitably gorged before hacking and slashing, this was a great call anonymous making a night of it

>>717885701
Thank god diablo is dead too. Fuck blizzard

>>717885651 (OP)
so which one is best, dark alliance, dark alliance 2, champions of norrath or champions return to arms?

>>717885701
What ARPGs from the 2000s do you like then?

Bump

>>717887704
Yes.

rollslop is a reaction to the braindead actionslop that came before, this is why it got so popular

>>717886765
god damn it retroarch is crashing when it tries to launch the game so help me god the beer is overtaking me and i haven't seen a single tiddy yet

>>717885651 (OP)
If both dodging and parrying are bad, then do you just want a no skill game where you stand in front of the enemy and mash attack?

>>717888624
Yes retard, that's objectively the most fun.

>>717888668
then old JRPGS are objectively a much better genre, since you can just stand still and press buttons

>>717888580
Dark Souls 2011 came out in a total graveyard for third person action RPGs. The 7th gen took forever to get off the ground for some genres that had been great in 6th gen

>>717888841
maybe if the animations are fast enough and theres no lengthy transition and results screens

>>717885651 (OP)
Can pcsx2 emulate this and dark alliance games decently?
Last time I checked it was running like shit.

blond bimbo barbarian has begun breasting boobily across the goblin and orc hordes

>>717889667
alright i'm level 2 with a frost cleaver slapping the absolute SHIT out of those goblins and i see there's a whirlwind skill so i know what i'm building toward

goddamn little magic using SHITS GET CHOPPED

>>717887794
None
The ARPG genre truly lives only thanks to Fromsoft

>>717885651 (OP)
>rollslop
Every so often I am reminded of how Souls gameplay early on was defined by blocking with the shield and managing your stamina and positioning, then I get a little depressed.

>>717885701
there were like 2 entries on the playstation, champions and dark alliance and they both sold no copies
how could they ever become a blight?
blame sacred-slop if anything

>>717892356
>there were like 2 entries on the playstation
Dark Alliance 2
Champions Call to Arms
Justice League
Fallout PoS
Paratrooper
Xmen Legends
Xmen Legends 2

>>717886689
daybreak games and they're too busy sueing a everquest private server right now because it has a constant 2k+ players playing it everyday over their latest TLP slop

>>717888776
I never owned this game but a friend of mine brought it to my house back in the day when staying the night over
Amazing game but I couldn't find it in any stores at the time.
I should download it and finally fully play through it

>>717885651 (OP)
What do we call Dark Messiah?

>>717893202
nigger jesus

>>717893202
Kicking Simulator

>>717893097
>Look it up
>They're suing THJ, not quarm or project 1999 or whatever
ayyyyyyyyyyyy lmao

Is this considered rollsop

>>717893429
the quarm troon is the one who tattled on them and he bent the knee and got his own server neutered
his server went from 1800 players down to 800 and it will only get worse all because he was jealous another server beat his in population

>>717893674
Don't really know anything about that. I just knew of quarm and p99 since i'd thought about playing on them and thj got me to briefly look at it just because the multiclassing and rebalancing was cool as fuck, cracks me up they're going after the server that's actually changing shit and not the "Like it was" servers though

>>717885651 (OP)
>it's time to slay the dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CHG_To7Ag

I know, different game, but same world

Some day I need to sit down and try to track down and list every good beat 'em up and hack and slash out there since I really do enjoy a good button mash

>>717893827
Quarm had custom content but part of the deal the owner made with DBG was he had to gut it all which is why the population drastically dropped

>>717893932
>black guy is a orc
lol

>>717893006
Marvel Ultimate Alliance released on 6th and 7th gen but I think most who played it did so on X360.

>>717892356
sacred 1 was kino tho 10x better than shitablo and path of shit

>>717894714
In that case you can also add War in the North. I also forgot Bard's Tale. And D&D Heroes was similar to DA as well (though it became very bland after the Yuan-Ti wilds).

>>717885651 (OP)

comes out tonight, put your money where your mouth is Anon.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2468730/Dungeon_Stalkers/

>>717894848
*prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt*

>>717894848
>PvEvP dungeon crawler
and dropped
tired of this faggot extractor garbage tier genre, fuck off

>>717894848
AWOOOOGA but weird genre

pure moods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin5oqi-H-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtpTaPfMQVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FstF-blY38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ9FoiGq7Ms

whats the best way to play Champions 1 and 2 and Dark Alliance 1 and 2 today?

>>717897290
For DA probably the overpriced PC port, for Champions PS2 emulation or a PS2.

>>717885701
Uuuuh, Anon...?

>>717885651 (OP)
I've never enjoyed parry mechanics. They make games too easy and or too boring.
I don't mide dodging attacks though.

>>717894848
how do I put money in the butt

Bikini Armour and swords Is the best combo

>>717888776
Never heard of this one, but I was never deep into this genre I suppose.

>>717885651 (OP)
>reject rollslop
>reject parryslop
>return to HACK N SLASH WITH BIG TIDDY ELF BITCHES YEAHHHH
lol nope

>>717893598
This is considered a Masterpiece

>>717885701
Champions of Norrath was more like baldur's gate dark alliance tho why so delusional?

There was this 3rd person view hack and slash game back in the days where you could cut off limbs (and lose them yourself) of enemies, and you swung the blade in the direction of wads or something, and could even design your own ebin moves with some companion program for X to Cool (usually you ended up looking tardy and get humiliated in actual combat using it) due the generally atrocious controls.
But i forgot the name of it, but it was original.

>>717885651 (OP)
fuck no, I remember killing giant scorpions and scarabs for 2 hours and never seeing the end of whatever dungeon I was, fuck that

>>717894848
Surprised more people know about this, they barely advertised the game.
>>717895091
It has multiple modes

>>717893598
No. It's kino.

>>717894848
so what is this, dark and darker 2.0?

>>717897361
can you run it on your own computer yet?
or is it still cucked to their server like gacha

>>717901608
>censored the word "death"
Okay it's too much for me

>>717892179
why do people pretend that diablo and souls games are the same genre?
it happens all the fucking time and it's fucking bizarre

>>717901608
>extraction
It's SHIT.
Don't fucking compare it to champions of Norath. Extraction garbage is not hack and slash you absolute fucking retard faggot.
I hate you faggots trying to claim multiplayer slop is anything like a real game.

>>717894848
>what if dark and darker but with store-bought asset naked anime girls
Does this kind of shovelware shit really make money? Maybe I should unironically become a game dev

>>717904276
It's from a youtuber's video, they have to censor it or the children and whamen will start killing themselves, please understand.

>>717904878
Calm down autismo nobody ever claimed your precious game isn't the bestest everest.

>>717907297
You're posting unrelated garbage in a thread about hack and slash games.

I wish there would be more Gauntlet inspired arcade hack and slash games.

There also this one coming up (again), but it's closer to the old LotR tie in games, especially Two Towers.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3843530/Forgotten_Realms_Demon_Stone/

>>717907484
It has been on GOG for ages, but as far as I know that is going to be a better PC port. I wonder if they also bring the improvements to GOG version.

>>717907707
Isn't SNEG pretty much GOG? They are also releasing Dragonshard and Temple of Elemental Evil on Steam.

I miss action games that aren't super hard 1v1 with camera locks and rolls with iframes and all that jazz. Nothing wrong with that either but seems like every action game released nowadays does the same approach to combat and it's starting to bore me. Dragon's Dogma 2 seems to be the only one that makes it more like a power fantasy.
Also hope you niggas try my game's demo when it's ready.
>>717888776
been meaning to try this for a while. How's the combat with mouse gestures? Sounds weird
>>717893598
You don't roll in that game. It's pretty cool, nice combat with lots of combos and neat hitbox detection with dismemberment. Some interesting level design as well, modern souls games could learn a lesson or two from this game imo.
>>717907484
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3843530/Forgotten_Realms_Demon_Stone/
could swear I've seen anons sharing webms of this one and it looked interesting.

>>717908204
>Dragonshard
how's that one? never heard of it but the RPG + RTS combination sounds cool

>>717892326
>des
>ds1
>ds2
>elden ring
all games where blocking is viable, and positioning and stamina management are important. It's mostly just bloodborne and ds3 that are exceptions

>>717908698
It's kind of a mix of WC3 and HoMM3.

>>717908698
It is fine. Pretty short campaigns but well worth what it costs now, and the improvements they tout should make it much more pleasant to play than it has been too.

>>717908204
qrd on that publisher?

>>717885651 (OP)
we have reached a point where people are nostalgic for shovelware, unbelievable

>>717909192
GOG or SNEG?

>>717908204
SNEGMA

>>717909264
They rerelease old games faithfully without shit like upscaled textures or video sequences. At best you get bugfixes, higher resolution, widescreen support and interface scaling, but that's all I want. They might also restore multiplayer functionality.
They have reasonable prices as well, unlike, say, modern Interplay.
Releasing the DOS version of Phantasy instead of the Atari one was a terrible decision.

>>717909612
You can get DOS emulation done for free with open source software, Atari emulation would probably take minimum effort.

>>717908259
Always good to see a friendly face in the lands of the unknown.

>>717909921
Might have been worth a little effort.

Can't wait to finally play Sacred 2 with controller support

>>717910564
wish they'd remaster the first one instead

>>717910564
>Can't wait to finally play Sacred 2 with controller support
And shit interface.
They should have remastered the first one, the second one runs fine on modern systems.

>>717910564
>>717910736
is it any good? I remember thinkign back in the day that it looked like a 7/10

>>717910985
It's less janky than the first one, but also somewhat unfinished. It's even more of a singleplayer MMO than Amalur, but it can be fun for a while.

>>717889659
When did you last test it, nimrod? What version number?

>>717910689
I like the deeper character building of the second game, I also like the greater emphasis on sexy armor for female characters.

>>717910736
The first game runs smoothly with pureHD and dgvoodoo2. The second game still stutters even if you use dxvk. The UI is too small and you can't even compare items properly, a lot can be done to improve it even if it's consolized.

>>717897358
>unironically recommend the Dark Alliance PC ports
>the ports that are bloated as fuck and have a nasty memory leak that was never fixed
Just fuckin' emulate them, idiot.

>>717898827
Fag.

>>717911746
>Just fuckin' emulate them, idiot.
I just play on my Xbox.

one of my favorite childhood games

>>717911347
I'd say that the second game is way jankier than the first one because of the awful camera.

I think what sets the games apart from most ARPGs is that you can unlock most skills really early on, but you also have to upgrade skills intelligently because upgrading a skill also increases its cooldown

>>717900115
die by the sword?

>>717887704
YouTuber's opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p_MDlEyB7c
My opinion - BGDA2 > CoN > CRtA = BGA1

>>717885651 (OP)
>reject rollslop
>posts rollslop
niggers, zoomers and poojeets. all the same insufferably retarded.

>>717885651 (OP)
I MISS GAMES WALLPAPERS I PUT ON MY FAT, BEIGE CRT MONITOR

>>717885651 (OP)
Genuine question: why can't we have rollslop with big tiddy elf bitches? Take Elden Ring, give it a heavy metal skin and some hot elf women and there you go.

>>717912780
I miss era of gaming wallpapers in general

>>717912836
Wuchang just came out, only it's a chink instead of an elf.

>>717894848
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2468730/Dungeon_Stalkers/
THis has nothing to do with games like what the OP is talking about
extraction shooters even with a fantasy skin are not like champions of norrath, BG: dark alliance, or the sequels to those two respective games.

It takes vast leaps of logic to arrive at anything resembling the idea that they might be similar.

>>717892179
>>717904712
THis is because people have two different meaning when they say ARPG. Action RPG as in a Dark Messiah (linear ARPG) or Dark Souls (soulslike ARPG) or even Skyrim (open world ARPG)

but for some reason people have ALSO rebranded Diablo-likes as ARPGs. So Path of Exile is an ARPG, and so is Diablo IV and Titan Quest and blah blah blah

Evben though really Diablo and its clones are more akin to stripped down single character isometric dungeon crawlers with very light rogue inspired elements that influence things like randomized map layouts or randomized loot with randomized stats.

But that's too long to say.

>>717912836
Western devs think that hot women in fiction cause more rape in real life, and Eastern devs outside Korean grindslop don't seem to be too interested in Western fantasy aesthetics.

>>717912706
I'm basically convinced we'll never ever see the Champions series return. At least DA1/2 got rereleased for modern hardware.

>>717912974
>tfw no pajeeta sorceress gf to twist my dick and call me her bitch
why even live

>>717910736
>the second one runs fine on modern systems.
it crashes constantly

>>717913282
>"marketing wants to cater to young boys who salivate to bitchy twintail cheerleader bimbos"
>"say no more"

>>717913421
How do you think American moms (or dads) reacted to this seeing in a game store?

>>717913505
This would legit be my wallpaper in 2000s.

>>717907484
Sounds dope, dawg

>>717913402
>>717911524
NTA there is a community patch for S2 that may or may not work on your machine. No harm in trying once. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sacred_2:_Fallen_Angel#Essential_improvements

>>717913505
Dads were used to it, that was marketing for fantasy comic books and novels since the pulp era.

>>717913850
>fantasy comic books and novels since the pulp era
You got any good art collection links of that time?

>>717885651 (OP)
I remember playing Champions of Norrath a lot on my PS2 (I think? It's like twenty years ago) and discovering an item duplication glitch (I can't remember how to do it, just that you could). Normally, you were still limited by weight, even if you could duplicate items, but there was one item that was like a bear statue or something, there was a bunch of them for different animals and they were all very heavy so you weren't supposed to carry them around really but they gave you stat boosts just for having them in your inventory (the animal depicted determined which stat boost you got) and the bear one gave you strength, which gave you more carry weight, so you could just duplicate the bear statues over and over and over and your character became invincible because you had basically infinite strength. That's what I remember from that game, and there was an "heaven" area where you fought angels and a dark elf city or something where you had to fight a huge dinosaur boss that hit really hard. Sometimes I think about trying to emulate it and see how much nostalgia I get if I play it.

>>717904118
Somehow beyond kino. Also modern console ports work amazingly so yeah.

>>717910736
I think it's nice it's getting remastered but I like Sacred 1 and it NEEDS some love to run on modern systems. I can get it going but it's a pain in the ass I just want to install the thing and have it run.

>>717912706
>2 minutes in
BOOOBAA
i will now play DA1

>>717913909
Nothing to link, but I recommend getting started with the Savage Sword of Conan comics and the Barsoom book series starting from Princess of Mars.

>>717913571
The Everquest series used to consistently use an artist that turned out PEAK box art and other pieces. Very evocative stuff.

>>717913909
go on GetComics and write "adult" in the search bar

>>717913696
The people that write something like this are the same people calling you racist on Social Media.

>>717885651 (OP)
>reject rollslop
>reject parryslop
So, what? Just tank the hits? Walk/run away from attacks? Block them? Burst everything?

>>717914572
Back in the day you could just avoid attacks without needing a dedicated button for it.

>>717914131
The Barsoom series is out of the Planetary Romance genre whereas something like Conan is more Pulp Fantasy. Both are good, but there are notable differences. If you want more Conan style I highly recommend looking into Michael Moorcock, C.L. Moore, Lin Carter, Avram Davidson, Abraham Merrit (this author likes to go intense), Clark Ashton Smith, and others. The pulp genre is filled with authors that were willing to do things authors these days would run screaming from. Beautiful stuff.

It's also worth noting Pulp would often cross things we now consider different genres. Your scifi and fantasy and whatever all else is all fair game. You think you're reading a scifi? BOOM barbarian with a sword and a serpent man sorcerer out of nowhere.

>>717894848
I'm not playing a fucking extraction ARPG just because I want to fuck the summons, get real

>>717912706
are those games any good? never played them

>>717895167
Seems like 3rd person, i.e. rollslop/Dragon's Dogma?

>>717915032
Eh, that fps Darkest whatever slavslop was called was pretty ok, once they finally got their shit together and had a non-pvp play mode.

>>717913738
Its unplayable without the patch
Its just extremely unstable with it

>>717916602
so is it unplayable, extremely unstable, or both?

>>717912974
Oh man, do I have a website and related computer game for you:
https://fygoon.com/art/wallpapers.html

>>717913402
Runs fine on Proton.

I reject boomer gooner shovelware slop tho.

>>717885651 (OP)
The biggest weakness for rollslop and parryslop is that you can't have 1v10 fights. Even fighting a single enemy requires your full attention, so fighting when surrounded is impossible. Action games were so much better when holding the block buttons was enough to defend against most attacks from all directions.

>>717917883
that's why I love the combat in Dragon's Dogma so much and the reason why I'm designing the combat for my game to be more of a beat'em'up with swords rather than 1v1 souls stuff

>>717908824
>Elden ring
Stamina is effectively a block meter. Every other action barely costs any. It's much different from dark souls where 1 heavy attack of the zweihander emptied your entire stamina bar if you didn't put a bunch of points into Endurance.

>>717885651 (OP)
I like the combat of Elder Scrolls games.

>>717917841
>boomer
You're going to get old anon.
>Gooner
People not being ugly doesn't make something porn anon.
>shovelware
They were AA or AAA made depending on the game you're particularly referring to anon.
>Slop
Everything is called slop these days anon.

>>717917883
The problem is blocks during that period often only reduced damage rather than blocking it. Not in every case mind you, but typically the more likely something was to actually block damage the more likely the game was to narrow the scope of encounters. Which is how you arrive at the souls series.

>>717918074
Dragon's Dogma 2 made me realize no one is ever going to look at DD1, be inspired by it, and improve on it. I can't think of a single thing that plays like DD1 and even DD2 struggles to live up to 1 at times.

Diablo is the only valid arpg. Everything else is irrelevant.

>>717918251
more indie devs might get inspiration from DD1. I'm trying to, but I'm a noob when it comes to 3D game dev and shit's hard.
>>717918129
imo that's because DS1 was still a dungeon crawler RPG in which your build could matter a lot. Modern Fromsoft games seem to be more focused in action and fast-combat ever since BB and DS3.

>>717893598
Kinoslop

>>717918435
Honestly, I hate the visuals. Even if you had the mechanics right I'd pass on this. People need to understand how important style is. That doesn't mean every pixel needs to look better than real life. But it does mean an actual style. Too m any devs thing "blocky characters" is some sort of retro style. It can be, but only if it's stylized. Otherwise it just looks like amateurish models. Art direction is just as important as systems.

>>717914305
SKG and the Credit Card situation have shown that "bipartisan" efforts can work.
Sperging out calling games "problematic" and "woke" doesn't solve the main problems. Modern games aren't bad because they are woke, they are bad because of many corporate decisions and just use wokeness to deflect criticism.

>>717918683
sorry to read that, but it is what it is. Don't think I'll be able to do better 3D models than those.

>>717914572
Something like Elder Scrolls games - tank, move out of the way, use healing magic and or potions, block with shield or weapon.
Sure, it's not realistic melee combat - like KCD, but it's fun enough. Not that rolling around is realistic either.

>>717918074
>beat'em'up with swords
You might like Wars and Warriors: Jean of Arc.

Path of Exile 2 and KCD are better than rollslop and chinkslop.

>>717918781
I'd direct you over to /tg/ an anon over there made a CYOA with the intent of showing others that they didn't need expensive art programs or writing skills to make one. He made a CYOA from the ground up with baseline MS paint. He didn't know how to draw in the first place. He taught himself to make the first version then the second. And he still had to make sure the writing and systems were right. He did it to show anyone could make one with anything they had handy without spending a bunch of money.

Point is you can do better. We all can.

You just have to want to. Only you can realize your potential.

>>717918964
whatever you say jew

>>717912706
What would you say to me, having only played Dark Alliance 1 and 2, thinking that Dark Alliance 2 was dogshit?

>>717918150
no you don't

>>717888624
I like regular guarding. It doesn't require precise timing in twitchy windows lasting single digit frames, you just press block and incoming damage is reduced.

>>717919172
I liked Skyrim's and Oblivion's, at least.

>>717918990
appreciate the motivational words anon. I'll try to improve and make something worth playing. Good thing is that I'm in no rush it all and mainly do it as a hobby, so I have all the time in the world.
>>717918964
Dude I loved my time with Path of Exile 2, but that game is both owned by chinks and features lots of rolling around

>>717919148
>What would you say to me, having only played Dark Alliance 1 and 2, thinking that Dark Alliance 2 was dogshit?
Did you play F:BoS by accident and thought it's DA2?
Seriously, DA2 is a huge improvement:
>more characters
>better character development with prestige classes
>replayability due to character quests
>etc

>>717885651 (OP)
i bought that game on ps2 exclusively because the woman on the cover was attractive
i played it once

>>717919429
Lower the resolution. With that textures and number of vertices, high res makes it look inconsistent.

>>717918435
Looks fun enough. When its all you have my personal permission to shill it all over /v/.
Just remember to post a screenshot of this post when someone tells you to buy an ad.

>>717885651 (OP)
Champions: Return to Arms was my shit back in the game
Game was fun as shit, especially co-op with a bro

i'd kill for a fantasy game with the gameplay of Rune
it's very unrefined but the movement hits right and the combat is fast and brutal

>>717919935
never played it but Enclave might hit the spot.

>>717919741
thanks anon! I'll shill it to hell and back, promise

>>717885651 (OP)
Played this a ton as a kid but one of my dads friends stole it and a copy of freekstyle from me.

>>717894848
Jesus fucking Christ this looks like an AI generated mobile game and the cherry on top is it's early access

now why would a janny come in here and put this thread in autosage? is this really the thread that needs to go from the board?

>>717913947
All four of those games have the same item/gold duping scheme. I think the Xmen Legends/MUA games have a similar one.

I liked Onimusha and Genji

>>717912706
>controling your character feels like controlilng a tank
i will now buy your game

>>717923425
The same trick worked on Bard's Tale in the 80s.
>The developers don’t want you to know this but the fire horns in the starting party are free you can take them home I have 458 fire horns.
D&D Heroes, yet another similar game, had the same issue.

anyone else played Dark Alliance on the gameboy? Or am i hallucinating memories?

>>717908259
Never played Silver, but if you want another game with mouse gestures try Die By The Sword.

>>717925403
Should have called it
>Die by the monster arm still wielding an axe
instead.

>>717914256
>>717914131
thanks

>>717924904
>>717925043
if you had nothing else but a GBA, this game was a crack. After finishing most of the big titles, just mindless hack-n-slash was just what the doc ordered

>>717918074
DD is the template for a directly controllable RPG that doesn't suck. Using it with a multiplayer long dungeon crawl module structure and integrating more elements of tabletop or games like Wizardry is what the grognards in the 80's dreamed of. Too out of scale for indies though, hopefully someone with a lot of money to waste takes a swing at the idea eventually.

>>717928209
sounds like Deep Down could have been. What happened with japs being obsessed over western fantasy? do they don't like that anymore?

>>717929102
Probably doesn't make waves over there the way Wizardry/its inspirations apparently did when it first landed, especially when new western stuff isn't cool. Lord knows that nufantasy isn't going to grab anyone and make them want to learn more about it.

this lil nigga is less than 1€ on Steam right now. Is it worth it? I liked the first game.

>>717920198
enclave mentioned! Love that game

>>717894848
>Coming Soon To Early Access
fuck off

>>717931358
it is less unique than the first game, but still a competent arpger

>>717894848
slop early access that will never have a full release.

Honestly I just want a game with either directional parries or directional dodges. I don't want a one button guards all solution.
>>717915032
Those are some PLUMP rumps.

>>717894848
>Early Access
naw not a chance in hell buddy

>Thread still up
>Nobody else playing CoN
What the FUCK

>pic rel
Somewhat relevant recommendations

>>717937929
>X-Blades
lol

>>717937929
Doesn't have a playable titty monster but Nox is a really fun time.

One of my goals in life is to have a hot wife and play co-op through Norrath and Return to Arms. Im currently emulating Norrath and it runs beautifully until the first lava stage. Lag is pretty bad so I havent progressed in a couple weeks. What blows me away replaying it is the voice acting. Like every fucking npc you talk to is fully voiced and actually sounds good.