Thread 717909257

Let me guess, you NEED more

Ok, MML fags, please, for the love of God, stop just shitting on Zelda to try to make your game look better.

I have to say this, because, instead of doing the sane thing and just pointing out that this is actually a great game, and that it's also one of the few things on the Playstation that actually IS like Zelda, in a very good way, you fuckers always bite off more than you can chew and try to claim that it's outright better and makes Zelda look like crap in comparison. This isn't something you will win.

I was actually put off by this for the longest time, before I actually played the bloody game and found that it was genuinely excellent, and I thoroughly recommend it to all Zelda fans. Just ignore the shitheads who normally advocate for it.

>>717909659
OOT doesn't hold up visually nor gameplay-wise, its main claim to fame is all the things it "invented" but it turns out those were all lies too

MM is still good because of the unique atmosphere

I don't care about monster hunter being a little more casual

I don't care about endless resident evil remakes

I do care that capcom has never revisited this series, its one of the coolest settings ever, the reaverbots all had such cool ancient tech designs and the civilisation above using the crystal power sources as currency? *chefs kiss*

>>717909257 (OP)
>Let me guess, you NEED more
Well, actually - yes. A Part 3 would be nice.

>>717909257 (OP)
>Let me guess, you NEED more
Yes I do now give me MML3 bitch ass nigga

>>717909257 (OP)
Waiting so long...

>>717909257 (OP)
I bought a japanese N64 just to play this game on original hardware

I still havent started it

>>717910412
>N64
anon..

>>717910412
Set up DuckStation
Widescreen hack ON
Texture warping OFF

>>717910412
Broke ass niggih

Can someone explain to me why every single indie "gamedev" from Twitter tries to replicate the Mega Man Legends style (but fails to) and only that style? It's not even aesthetically pleasing, honestly, and it's about as bad as those NES Mega Man OCs people used to make all the time that were then put on used disc copies of games that didn't come with their cases.

>>717909257 (OP)
yeah some shadows would be nice

>>717910786
Nobody asked Scaly Cris
Now get back to mowing that lawn.

>>717909785
Legends plays terribly though. It's good in spite of the fact that megaman handles like a tank, and all of the platforming parts are painful.
Plus, MS Paint textures aren't for everyone, and neither is PS1 wobble. Some people think this game looks hideous. I'm just saying.

>>717909659
As someone pretty plugged into MML I haven't seen a single person say that. MML1 especially is regarded as the better of 1 and 2 story/npc wise but its music cant even compare to MML2 let alone OoT.

>>717909785
you don't need to reply to yourself.

>>717911067
megaman legends 1 does control significantly worse than 2, 2 controlls better but there are some tricks you can no longer pull off. 3 looked like it completely fixed everything wrong with movement and melee. I can't think of a single reason anyone would say it looks ugly though.

>>717911067
>Legends plays terribly though
So does OOT, that's my point

>Plus, MS Paint textures aren't for everyone
It's objectively one of the best looking fifth generation games and definitely aged infinitely better than OOT/MM when it comes to visuals

>and neither is PS1 wobble
I'll give you this one, most people that grew up with it think it adds a lively element to otherwise basic 3D environments, but people seeing it for the first time almost always think it looks weird

>>717909257 (OP)
This game remains aesthetically unmatched (according to my own personal biases) its fucking unreal dude

Misadventures of tronne bonne 2 please

>>717912075
stop samefagging please

>>717915163
Sudden sovl out of nowhere

>>717910412
The funny thing is N64 is region free, there's just some tags on the tcartridge that don't allow you to insert jap cartridges.

>>717909257 (OP)
Apparently, (YOU) retards do since you're still crying about its "cancellation" (which is really Inafune playing you like the retards you are).

>>717913119
the man that riveted that pussyplate on there is my greatest enemy

>>717909257 (OP)
this is unironically where graphics hit the wall of diminishing returns

>>717909659
Ive never read anyone type that

>>717912075
OOT plays great.

>>717911058
Someone's still salty about being called what they are: a creep.

>>717916656
It does not

>>717909257 (OP)
those fucking minigames

>>717911204
boy thighs... need...

>>717909257 (OP)
A non-drifting controller would be nice. That way I can finally get around to playing past the first game.

>>717909257 (OP)
bros, how do I make the visuals not jittery as fuck on duckstation?
I ticked the PGXP options but they made no difference, even tho videos shown this is supposed to fix it

I'm playing on a laptop with integrated graphics card, does PGXP just not work on that or what?

>>717917854
perspective correction doesn't work well in legends, only retards cope otherwise

>>717909257 (OP)
Ml1 > ml2 by a lot

>>717917936
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SqN2cIpBWVI?t=21&feature=share
(at 21 sec, ignore the rest), there are a couple vids showing that it's supposed to work, but it does nothing for me

>>717918250
learn how computers work before you ever use the internet again

>>717909257 (OP)
>>717910043
>>717911354
it's unreal how much soul this game has. how the hell did they manage it?

>>717909257 (OP)
>>717911354
I can hear the music

>>717910193
stuck there for the rest of time

>>717909659
what is this schizo babble?

>>717910602
>Widescreen hack ON

>>717909659
What is it with OOT fags feeling so threatened by MML that they need to bring up Zelda in every MML thread on multiple boards?
You would think they'd be more scared of Dark Cloud threads since that was the "Zelda-killer"

>>717918413
why the obnoxious reply tho? Not sure what the fuck was wrong about anything I asked

>>717918820
you're eminently retarded

>>717918890
care to elaborate why?

>>717909257 (OP)
It's shit

>>717918984
asking basic questions, linking a short and saying "go to this time" instead of linking as a video with a timelink
last reply i'm giving you, go learn how computers work and come back in 5 years

>>717919159
I literally linked a timed video you actual retard (t=21 in it shows that), not my fault that 4chin is shit and picky about what random link formats it displays correctly which is why I also wrote the timing there to be sure

>>717910485
It's called Megaman 64

>>717915936
Not true, the PAL N64 isnt regionfree and loading any NTSC cartridge will make it unable to show the color red. I learned this the hard way.

>>717919651
>It's called Megaman 64
Only on the N64 which is the gimped version

>>717919068
>Insulting my waifu

>>717919068
Man, Rob must have had a permanent hard-on during the era of brown'n'bloom

>>717909659
I actually did play MML because of all the people pretending that OOT ripped it off. Unsurprisingly, as with Tomb Raider, they play nothing alike, which made me appreciate OOT even more. MML at least has a better art style to it.

>>717920168
so this is the power of 64 bits...

>>717920687
>OOT ripped it off
OOT has a reputation for being the first "3D adventure game" and "inventing" 3D lock-on, people may not necessarily mean OOT ripped off MML when they say MML had those things earlier

>>717909257 (OP)
>>717911354
>this era of capcom is gone
it genuinely fucking hurts

>>717920168
I'm not sure which one is which on the picture. Sure, the right one has more fog, but it also has better models.

>>717919068
God, I love bongers.

>>717921020
>but it also has better models.

how?

>>717919068
Damn, what did colors ever do to this man's wife?

>>717919068
This is the type of guy I despised growing up
Everything was kiddie to them and they only wanted to play sports games in their megadrive and then ps1

>>717921131
Well the lamp posts look actually fucking 3D, and everything as anti-alias

>>717921936
i think you're confused by the crt effect. it's the same model.

>>717920808
>muh lock-on
Rent free. Also other games had it before MML.

>>717919068
average cod/madden dudebro

>>717922171
Note how I didn't say MML invented it but OOTfags do all the time for OOT

I need more Bonne and Roll at least.

>>717922285
It invented the best version of it that everyone uses as a basis.

>>717922498
No it didn't

>>717911067
Soulless trash are not people

>>717922543
Yes it did. It certainly wasn't that Gunnm game people had to dumpster dive for where you press Select.

>>717909257 (OP)
Mogged by Ocarina of Time.
Also Zelda and Malon are better waifus than Roll and Tron.

>>717911354
You also get a unique dialog for every NPC and nearly every object in the room.
Modern devs would never put in this much effort, in most cases they would not even have a room like this that is not required for any story objective.

Friendly reminder that it's all your fault

>>717923228
>Friendly reminder that it's all your fault

Sex

>>717923619
N

>>717909659
>better timeless artstyle
>better actual dungeons so 5 year olds will struggle to complete
>less empty fields of nothing to run on
>better enemy ai that can pose some kind of challenge
>money isn't completely useless
>actual upgrade mechanics that let you build up your character's gear how you want
>better sidequests (wheelchair girl comes to mind)
>much better developed and more fun characters such as tron bonne
>more appealing character designs instead of some gay fairy people
>better enemy designs
>much better plot
>voice acting
>can skip cutscenes
>running around is immediately responsive instead of running in an arc to the direction you're pressing
>can jump at will (better use of 3d environments because of this)
>dedicated button for aiming and lock on
>strafing
>can rotate the camera whenever you want
volnuttchads we can't stop winning

Where are the MML clones? I see Resident Evil clones popping up but not MML clones.

>>717922917
Nope

>>717925301
be the change you want to see in the world

>>717925301
name

>>717925301
Think there are a couple
Halcyon Days is one, but it was pretty shit in spite of blatantly ripping off a lot of stuff. Was like they stole the most pointless things but removed anything that made it good.

>>717925443
Phase Zero

>>717925554
>Halcyon Days

ew looks like shit

>>717925654
I am now legally blind

>>717909257 (OP)
MML was one of many games that taught me japanese games are much better when their anime gayness was restricted by graphics and hardware
every 16 bit jap game is pretty rad but then the jump to 3D turned them all into slice of life weeb shit

>>717923228
>say that you're going to gauge interest with a paid demo
>don't release demo
>blame lack of interest
I will always be fucking mad about this.

>>717909659
>could have had a nice MML/low poly thread
>OoToddler nukes it immediately
Hey, listen! You're a fag.

>>717919068
>bong
>can't stand seeing color
checks out

>>717909257 (OP)
This series had such a kino aesthetic. I wish indie games would rip it off since Capcom sucks ass.

>>717925654
>ew looks like shit
Yeah I tried really hard to give it a chance but it was total shit dropped it after like the second dungeon
>Heroine is a brown obnoxious girlboss who sort of looks like sara but even worse personality, she gets betrayed by her bodyguard and he is the villain.
>Your spotter is a dudebro, so is the MC.
>You get a shitty submarine instead of the flutter, not sure if airships are even a thing
>They use really grating armature rock and roll music that doesn't fit the tone at all
>Massive wide open areas with nothing in them, boring fetch tasks to run end to end across these areas to pad your time.
>Very clunky lots of bugs, I softlocked myself by going back to the boss room after I beat them to check for items
>But they rip off stupid things that they should've made unique like the "world covered in endless water" intro from MML1 as well as most of the Market area and it just ends up feeling cringe rather than benefiting it in any way.

>>717910786
because Mega Man Legends feels like the perfect bridge between pixel art and early 3D. It's crisp, clean, colorful pixel art style perfectly suits the setting and the polygonal 3D models... try to do anything more gritty and organic and it falls apart...

Mega Man Legends is held up by some of the greatest art direction / character design ever seen in a game and that's what really makes it amazing.. Every color is so thoughtfully chosen, each screenshot looks like a well composed shot out of a 90s anime. The science fiction suburban vibes of town, the mecha animal enemies, the steampunk vibes, the creepy neon genesis evangelion feeling underworld, the expressive anime faces... it's all top notch.

and that's why all indie attempts to replicate the "3d pixel art style" of Mega Man Legends come off with creepy minecraft anime doll vibes... because indie's can't compete with professional japanese artists operating at the peak of their game.

?

>>717930113
I

>>717929597
>we will never get a game that looks like this and plays like a MML2/Ratchet and Clank hybrid

Pshh, nothin personnel...digger.

>>717930557
CLAUDE NO LOOK AWAY

>>717930203
I think the fluidity of movement of ratchet and clank and other modern third person shooters sort of ruins the fun. They're just so insanely easy. It's also why original Tomb Raider is such a fun and uniquely challenging platformer while its modern inspired Uncharted series is an incredibly dull platformer comparably.

Mega Man Legend's tank controls make the claustrophobic ruins a fun challenge. Those big hopper bots leaping at you while you desperately try to turn around to face this big, mobile enemy in a tight, dark, alien as fuck underground ruin is fun gameplay where the limitations of control fluidity create part of the challenge.

>>717931467
Morons like you are why From Software has made a mint selling clunky bullshit for the last 20 years.

>>717931467
I don't think stiff or unresponsive controls are a feature. Ever. Keep in mind I've played through and love countless tank controls PS1 games. I just hate the idea of challenge coming from a gap in the interface between player and player controlled character. Controls should feel like they aren't there in the sense that you're never fighting with your controller or keyboard to make them move or act how you want.

>>717931953
but from fans hate the games that guy described

>>717921936
The models are the same. The N64 also has an auto smudge that is applied to textures to smooth them out (because nintendo is retarded) which devs had to manually turn off (most didn't). I haven't played the N64 version of legends, but the textures in that image look like they have this effect applied to them as well. This, combined with the fog, would make the N64 version worse on its own, but I would take a gander to say that the performance is probably worse too if they had to resort to using fog to make it playable

>>717932038
Fromdrones think bad controls are a feature. That's why you have retarded things like roll on button release, deadzones, and comically stiff weapon swing animations.

>>717919068
>By Virgin
Well, at least we know what this faggots problem was

>>717909257 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY2IpEvqZw0
When I hear music from this game I cry

>>717923138
I think this is why I stopped playing JRPGs years ago
older JRPGs had flavor text for almost every object you interacted with and then all of a sudden they stopped doing it.

>>717909659
KWAB

>>717925301
https://arthur-vyater.itch.io/delta-gal

>>717934382
Tron Bonne lowkey is the best game in the series.

why hasn't /v/ made a legends 3 fangame?

>>717935843
neat it's free

>>717936016
>why hasn't /v/ made a legends 3 fangame?
Nobody wants to put in that much time and effort for free just so they can get chased around and play wack-a-mole with capcom removing it from anywhere they host it and threatening to figure out who they are and throw them in pound-me-in-the-ass-prison.

Maybe one day with AI if they can train off the game models, voices, generate cutscenes etc and make it lower cost and effort relative to the shit they will have to deal with.

>>717936016
I didn't feel like it

>>717909659
Well that's one way to keep a thread going.

>>717909659
Who the fuck said anything about Zelda

i'm excited about red ash
it's gonna be great
the demo was great

>>717919068
another instance of britbongs having shit taste

>>717918489
They tried to make an anime style game, and played to their system and development limitations in smart ways. ie the "drawn on expressions for certain angles" trick people love to mention.

>>717909785
>OOT's atmosphere isn't unique

what, just because it doesn't try to be "le weird" doesn't mean it's not unique. taking only the music and sound effects/atmosphere is enough to claim it's extremely unique.

it's also not about being only innovative but cohesively making something greater than possibly anything else in the genre. you will find games that do x or y better, but when you compare the whole package?

>>717909659
This

>>717909257 (OP)
Yes.
The controls and gameplay in that game were pretty bad. It looks cute but it's not engaging at all.

>>717909785
>OOT doesn't hold up visually nor gameplay-wise, its main claim to fame is all the things it "invented" but it turns out those were all lies too
Cool opinion bro

>>717942538
Those are straight fax tho

>>717909659
is this a copy pasta?

>>717938292
This is Capcom, the company that even hosts the download link for a fangame on their official website, not Nintendo.

>>717941947
Red Ash is dead anon.

>>717923138
I think you have to talk to the woman behind the counter for the story to progress. If I am remembering correctly. So the room isn't entirely without purpose. Also isn't it a shop? Can't remember if I bought stuff there tho.

>>717932246
For whatever reason, Capcom didn't publish a bunch of their games in the PAL region, and instead got Virgin Interactive to do it.

>>717934382
You can tell by the character designs alone just how horny they were making these games

remember what they took from you

>>717945882
Legends 2 wasn't as good as Legends 1 so I was never upset they stopped making the games.

>>717919068
>>717920225
>>717921071
>>717921225
>>717921229
>>717922226
>>717926480
>>717932246
>>717942032
From the same British magazine

>>717946018
I thought it was more atmospheric, it felt like a real journey around the world

>>717911067
>Some people think this game looks hideous
yep, this

>>717946034
>Rich
It can't be...

>>717909257 (OP)
I need MML3

>>717946018
yeah it was really disappointing. they cut the funding and rushed it. you can tell by unused areas and characters.

>>717909785
RETARD

>>717949506
Take off your nostalgia goggles

>>717946034
wasn't this also the guy that shat all over symphony of the night?

>>717916371
carbons are not human and can modify themselves
tron just took off her pussy to make it clear no one can rape her

>>717942032
>>717932246
>>717922226
>>717921229
this thread is basically old /v/. i cant believe how many assholes are engaged in jeet backed console wars trying to pretend x or y is for girls and children. i missed hearing opinions on journos that aren't shit, backed by opinions on the gaming industry that aren't fake and gay

>>717925837
they couldnt release the demo because the game was fun but they already made the decision to cancel the game.

>>717931973
>>717931467
why do retards keep saying megaman legends has tank controlls? neither game had tank controls

>>717946018
you are wrong.

*ruins a generation of 3D modelers*

>>717953368
Why ruin? This style is great and I want to see more of it.

Yes a third one.

>>717909257 (OP)
>>717911354
OH MY SOVL

>>717921225
I assume they fucked her while he watched.

>>717942032
Brits enjoy curry which is just diarrhea on rice, that should be clear

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3581140/Clockwork_Maiden/

are you guys excited?

>>717923619
Built for plapping

>>717930557
HEY THAT'S OUR WORD

>>717919068
when you live in bongland even a sunny day is too much color for them to handle

>>717955447
That's a good imitation of MML's style. I'll keep an eye on it.

>>717955447
Indie games really love doing this "WHAT IF OLD GAME BUT WORSE" schtick

>>717955447
that looks so ass to play holy shit

>>717954954
>SOVL
Does everything need a buzzword?

>>717946034
Holy shit. All of the pictures this guy got for the game are from the opening level. He never even made it to the stage select screen. Truly, gaming journalists have always been subhuman scum that deserve the rope.

>>717955447
This would be cool if the dev didn't make it play like shit on purpose.

>>717909659
No one fucking mentioned oot you retard

>>717909257 (OP)
Mogged by rdr2

>>717909257 (OP)
Yeh

Tron Bonne was the first girl I wanted to fuck from games

>>717923138
Not only do you get unique dialog from every NPC but their dialog changes after every major moment in the game. There are entire sub stories that exist in the game with these unnamed NPCs. Highly recommend just walking around and talking to them after every boss/dungeon you do.

>>717929597
If we're talking pretty games, I think Dinosaur Planet looks better. As much as I like to blow my own trumpet, I know I come nowhere close to what peak Rare could do.

>>717955447
its hard to trust any western indie dev using old playstation models

>>717961954
need to breed this tsundere

>>717955447
to be honest this looks awful, but i'll bite, post more steam games with faux mml graphics

>>717909257 (OP)
Still looks better than 99% of games. I wanted to live in MML as a kid and still do.

>>717966798
i'm surprised so many people played it. i don't think it even sold a million copies.

Why are normies allergic to SOVL?

>>717911067
>and all of the platforming parts are painful
I have never seen anyone say this about the handful of times you actually need to jump over something in the game. All the platforming is absolute baby tier. You never fall to your death or really get any kind of penalty for missing jumps. All the gaps are exceedingly generous. 99% of the time, jumping is done to grab a wide ledge. The trickiest platforming section is the breakable ice one in the first sub-gate but that's hardly anything. Maybe jumping on the Marlwolf too, but you don't even need to do that. This criticism is a level of nonsense not seen since "charge shots ruined Mega Man"

>>717966962
I don't know exactly how many people played it back in the day, but it was a Mega Man game and decently popular. Plus being part of a major series and characters like Tron Bonne appearing in Marvel vs. Capcom helped attract attention over the years I'd imagine. It might not have sold a ton but it's always had a relatively good reputation and cult classic status.

Every time someone talks about this game I get the urge to start up a new save. This game is a fucking virus

before the thread archives i just want to blogpost that i replayed through the game because of this thread for the first time in almost 20 years, you guys were right, it's a crime this game didn't sell more, it's even more soul than i remembered it, this playable ending segment hit me hard right now
fuck crapcom btw

>>717909257 (OP)
I just noticed that building is reaver bot shaped

>>717967685
>characters like Tron Bonne appearing in Marvel vs. Capcom helped attract attention over the years I'd imagine

i doubt it. there are plenty of lesser known characters in mvc that no one cares about.

>>717968626
i play it every couple of years and i always miss certain events like the bank robbery or helping the pregnant lady. i can't seem to trigger all the events for some reason.

>>717968804
i found the bank robbery by complete accident as i was playing without a guide, it's pretty funny you just expect random flavor text when clicking on the tv and you get voiced dialogue from the tv anchor talking about it

>>717968683
I mean even Star Gladiator and Plasma Sword got more attention than they ever would've otherwise because of MvC2.

But yeah you're right. I think it's a smaller factor than MML just being a cult classic already. It always had a strong fanbase. Just saying if you spent time in gaming communities there's no way you wouldn't get exposed to Mega Man Legends eventually and MvC was part of that.

>>717969143
>and MvC was part of that

if that were true people would mention it but they don't. this is the first time i've even seen it brought up and i read every mml i come across.

>>717930163
G

>>717969308
You're taking it too seriously I think, I didn't think about how I phrased the post that deeply. I'm agreeing with you that it's not a major factor in why MML is known. I guess I'm more trying to say that MvC is an example of MML's greater presence in gaming and one means of the game being exposed to people into games.

>>717909257 (OP)
I am going to figure out how to make games like this so I can make a comfy delivery simulator where you run around cool islands in a hovercraft delivering mail and running errands.

>>717910786
I don't know what this game is but it looks like an amateur project from the early 2000s made by some kind of hack who thinks they are a genius and 20 years later it's still not finished because he's too focused on jacking himself off and perfecting one small autistic aspect no one gives a shit about

>>717946034
what was wrong with these assholes

>>717970635
they're video game shock jockeys basically

>>717910043
monkey!

>>717925301
>I see Resident Evil clones popping up
name them?
what?

>>717916614
SIR

>>717955447
this looks rushed

>>717909257 (OP)
Roll simply did not get enough doujins
Post them if you disagree

>>717970954
Look at him go.

>>717929597
>jerking off japs this much
>>717910786
>why do people think a low poly art style is easy to do
wait till you learn why pixel art is popular in amateur games

>>717961954
Simply not enough doujins of her
Post em if you disagree

>were is MML3
do it yourself, faggots https://itch.io/jam/mega-man-legends-jam-2025

What gaem?

>>717946034
I have a hard time grasping what this mans point is. probably because I like video games. It's all about the... plot?

>>717975083
I don't get the point of this.

>>717955447
Looks bad, very surface level reinterpretation of the graphical style.

>>717976545
>what´s the point of making videogames
to be expected of the videogame board

>>717918720
ignorant little zoomer nigga

>>717919068
Damn they really took a nigger with serious mental problems and gave him a job in a gaming journalist magazine

>>717936016
Let's do it right now

>>717911354
I absolutely adore this style. Is the game any good?

>>717980797
Do you like circle strafing

>>717980797
Yes

>>717909257 (OP)
>more
Yes. We literally need more. Megaman Legends 3 more

>>717985453
I cant believe they went to such lengths as to censor being able to kick the dog back then

>>717968683
I love the artwork of Star Gladiator

>>717955447
this your /agdg/ shitpost?

I like MML but let's not pretend that the entire series was basically an elaborate way to incinerate large volumes of cash. It's never sold well.

>>717972091
Not him, but off the top of my head there's Crow Country, Voices of the Void and that Alice game.

>>717909257 (OP)
Nope. This is 64-bit graphics at their best. Better graphics than this is basically useless.

>>717991227
>PSX
>64-bit

what's that higher poly mml-ish "game" again? with the sunglasses lady stepping on the salarymen etc

>>717994862
Sushi Ben

MEGA MAN'S LOOKING AT PORN

>>717909785
>OoT's main claim to fame is all the things it "invented"
Nobody who actually plays games even thinks about this shit. Only MML tards make this stupid comparison.

>>717995897
>Only MML tards make this stupid comparison.
Try actually going into a tendie OoT thread.

>>717995897
>Nobody who actually plays games even thinks about this shit
On the contrary, N64 fans are obsessed with all the stuff the console/games "pioneered" since they think it makes up for the lackluster games and game library

>>717997208
Nope. Stop reading journalist articles and just enjoy the games.

>>717997445
I've been reading Nintendo and N64 /v/threads for decades now

Replayed 1 recently and now doing 2 again, got the first key and did the three quizzes.
I wanna go for 100 but man

>>717980745
what did she mean by this?

>>717997515
90% of N64 threads here are unfortunately schizo-made to "tarnish" the best console library of all time because they can't stand the idea of games like Mario64 and OoT being in the top 10 instead of shit like MML and Tomba 2. You can't trust anything that goes on in there.

You'd know that if you actually were browsing here for decades but you're just a poser. Probably underage on summer vacation. Lurk some more before posting.

>>717997807
You N64babies really are silly.

>>717997807
MML and Tomba! 1 are absolutely fantastic games that would snugly fit in a top 20 of all time list and are honeslty better than all the Zelda games *beside* the N64 ones. The N64 still has the absolute best of the best games, but the PSX has at least as many games that, while not on quite the same level, still reach a standard of high excellence.

>>717997902
Yeah, this shit is totally organic...

>>717998768
Now do one for the threads saying it's the best game ever.

>>717998720
>The N64 still has the absolute best of the best games
SM64 is pretty good. Goldeneye and OoT suck and have always sucked.

>>717998960
That's completely backward though.

SM64 is kind of like Doom, it innovated a significant and interesting set of base tech that people rightly admired, but needs to be modded or played in otherwise unorthodox ways to really live up to the reputation it's gained for itself, as the base game doesn't have the consistently fine level design or progressive challenge it needs to take advantage of what its possible in it. Base Mario 64 is good, but not really quite as good as something like Banjo.

Goldeneye and OoT, on the other hand, are each much more refined and complete games that stand alone in their own right. It is the case that, similar to the above, they each have flaws and untapped potential that can be more fully realized with mods, and are now developing healthier modding scenes that better take advantage of this, but their core, base games are in each case the stars that remain high peaks of gaming even with minimal intervention, while in Mario's case it's better as an engine for overhaul hacks.

>>717999686
>Goldeneye and OoT, on the other hand, are each much more refined and complete games that stand alone in their own right
Both are shit to play compared to other games within thw genre that came before and after them.

>>717997807
>the best console library of all time
That's PS2 though, closely followed by PS1

>>717999909
There wasn't shit like either of them that was anywhere near close to their respective levels of refinement when they each came out, and they both still hold up better than most of what appeared after in their wake.

Goldeneye pioneered how modern FPS do stealth and blew everything prior out of the water in that regard, and is still the high water mark of the "deliberately pick your shots like a pseudo light gun game" style of FPS. It's biggest faults are the weird engine quirks and frame slowdown it has.

OoT is just absolutely phenomenal as a game experience in close to every way it can be. It unfortunately lacks the sense of danger that games like LoZ1 and Dark Souls make better use of, but this is a basically minor problem that can be solved by tweaking enemies into being more threatening, and is otherwise the most robust and all round fine thing offered by gaming as a medium.

>>718000926
>There wasn't shit like either of them that was anywhere near close to their respective levels of refinement when they each came out, and they both still hold up better than most of what appeared after in their wake.
Wrong. Goldeneye only did mission objectives well. Everything else related to actual gameplay and level design was awful compared to something like Quake. Tendies and journalists will pretend OoT is action adventure perfection, but in reality it was just the first AAA game to treat the player like an idiot and automate/streamline as many mechanics and gameplay elements as possible, which is why those people who suck amd games and don't really play them pretend it had good puzzles or pacing or platforming.

>>717997621
She wants the shining laser

>>717909257 (OP)
90s Capcom Aesthetics is hard to top.

I brute forced it

>just finished all sidequests and got all parts and weapons
>nothing to use them on
emptiness

IT
NEEDS
TALENT

kick the can!

>asking for MML3
>without even having played the KINO phone game
Hypocrites much?

>>717980598
alright, lets do it in unreal and swap files around. got access to some forbidden files that could help.

how do i stop the pain

>>718008915
Only actor I can think of who can probably bring the same energy is Charlie Day, but his voice is too high-pitched.

Is the current AI voice technology good enough to use what little there is of Tiesel’s performance to accurately replicate the guy’s voice?

>>718003661
Fucking sucks when games do that. Having an optional super-dungeon is the only way to properly reward completionists.

>>717980745
Roll would never.

Tron on the other hand…

>>718008915
I'm pretty sure he was only convicted the first time and then killed himself when they began investigating him the second time.

https://androidarts.com/mml/reaverbot_legends.htm
every now and then i reread this

>>718011371
>obsessive autist seems to effortlessly create something no one else who loves this series could even dream of
Jesus Christ lol… I need to read this more thoroughly. And maybe find a way to get in contact with this guy.

>>717909257 (OP)
>Let me guess, you NEED more
Visually? No MML is perfect

>game that nobody cared about and barely sold
>influx of "no dude I ALWAYS loved heckin Legendsarino" tourists once some guy starts making off model porn of one of the characters
Sad! Many such cases

>>717909257 (OP)
Yes
>>717909659
>Ok, MML fags, please, for the love of God, stop just shitting on Zelda to try to make your game look better.
No idea if this is bait or AI or pasta but MML fags are few and far between so I have no way of sifting the truth from this

>>718012656
New

>>717909659
>>717909785
samefaggot cuck. falseflagging snoys are pathetic

>>717980797
It is literally my favorite game of all time

>>717997807
>the best console library of all time
Come on now

>>718003491
I miss educational games

>>718014592
Like, if I had to choose a single console, and could play that and only games derived from that for the rest of my life and nothing else, I would pick the N64. It has enough 'good games' along with an absolute peak of classics that surpasses everything else, that there's no way I could look as something like a PS2 or Megadrive and consider picking that instead.

>>718014989
Just because it was the only console you had as a kid doesn't make its handful of games somehow good or meaningful

>>717997807
>N64
>best console library of all time

>>717980598
I'll make the logo!

>>718015430
Very good :)

>>718014989
What's crazy is that some young millennial tendies actually believe this. Anyways, if you can't pick PC then the only acceptable answers are PS1 or PS2. Nintendo hasn't had a good console library since the SNES, and the N64 didn't had a few good games and then a bunch of trash. Certainly no masterpieces.

>>718001283
GE has more satisfying gunplay and enemy reactions. It also has more varied levels than Quake's diarrhea-smeared dungeons.

>>718008012
I can't read that shit nigga.

>>718015182
what the FUCK is megaman's problem?

>>717910786
you mean like how you're trying and failing to capture the Ecstatica style?

>>718016014
he's just doing the evil megaman route https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Ethics

>>718016014
Picking "bad" options can actually turn you evil in both games

>>717909257 (OP)
>doing bad things turns Megaman in to a black man
>terrifying dungeons (for a children's game)
>playing poorly in the city boss fights punishes you and leaves the city in ruins and you have to pay to return it to normal
>Bach's fugue as a final boss theme
Unironically the most soulful Megaman game, and it wasn't even a proper Megaman game

>>718016650
>and it wasn't even a proper Megaman game
To me, MML1/2 and Tron are the only real Megaman games. There's cutscenes, events, fully explorable 3D areas and sidequests etc. They're the only full cinematic games if that makes sense.

The platformers are like minigames. They all sorta blend together and are really just arcade experiences.

>>718016858
I agree, too bad "real megaman fans" don't

>>718016289
evil megaman lookin rad af

>>718016937
My nigga

The BN games and Command Mission count too since you can explore in them, but RPG's can never really compare to a realtime 3D combat adventure game. Legends just feels like the only game in the series that fully encompasses what the video game medium can do.

>>718012656
Can't believe Capcom made Tron from the film into a girl. Stunning and brave.

>>718017260
It's also, to me, like the only part of the franchise that tried to give him an actual history, personality, life and choices
In almost every other game, he's just a heroic automaton going after the bad robots

>>718016289
>Damage Kattelox TV's airship during the "Defend City Hall!" mission.

I didn't even know this was an option.

>Kick a vending machine.

A kid can't help but get free drinks...

>Kick the empty can in Apple Market inside Jetlag Bakery.

They give you money every time though....

>>718017352
Neat, but a pink M16?
Should have a some-what theme fitting weapon at least

>>718008915
He was too based for this world.

>>718017569
That was by far one of my favorite things about MML. The first game in particular. Even as a kid I was able to really sink my teeth into the idea of turning him into a real boy.

>>718017723
It's funny on New Game+ because the buster part they give you can completely level the entire city on its own during boss fights.

>>718016289
>gain 20k zenny or 1 fucking million for bad route
Damn. I forget how easy/hard it was to get zenny in MML1 but that's a big jump

>>718017569
Yeah the Megaman Juno cutscenes really intrigued me. You can tell the backstory with the Carbons and the Elder System and just the whole world being forcibly scattered around islands in MML was really thought out and it's just a bummer we'll never get to see the conclusion of that story because Capcom wants you to think of Megaman as a fucking cartoon character who can only be a Sonic or Pacman equivalent for the company.

I was really looking forward to MML3 because I wanted to see the "big city" islands promised in that game. The prospect of exploring the rest of that world is the biggest loss in that cancellation.

>>718018028
wtf isn't the guy on the right from the tronne bonne game? glyde or whatever? does this take place after misadventures cannonically?

>>718018009
Capcom gigaleak when?

>>718018189
>does this take place after misadventures cannonically?
Yes

>>718018203
That's what I expected the leak from a few years ago to be.

We definitely need another leak because there's no way they got rid of this demo from their archives. If Capcom ever hopes to get my trust back they'll include the prototype in the MML collection whenever they decide to actually do that.

>>717910412
The N64 version is as bad as the PC version, what are you even doing?

>>718018203
>>718018320
why did the hackers pick tron bonne's game and dmc2 to leak the source code? did they have more they didn't want to share?

>>718018320
>capcom has been sitting on the MML collection because they know it'll reopen the possibility of widespread criticism for the MML3 debacle
Unless they have a legitimate contingency plan, from a strictly political perspective, it just seems like a bad idea. I love the MML games and think it's a goddamn shame that things are the way they are, but as an armchair strategist, I can definitely appreciate why they aren't in any rush to push it out the same way they did the the BN games.

>>718017460
Every time he draws some ugly fat midget porn instead of Tron, I die a little more inside

>>718015935
>Goldeneye gunplay
>better than Quake
Tendies don't play video games.

>>717919068
>Looks at the top of page
>BY:VIRGIN
AHAHAHAHAHA The tale tells itself

>>718023645
>>717944329

ROUNDHOUSE KICK A DOG INTO THE CONCRETE.

>>718025886
kill diggers
behead diggers
slam dunk baby diggers into the concrete
slice a digger with a katana
drop diggers in a volcano
fuck diggers

this franchise sure has a lot of good fan art

>>718021517
rent free

>>718030078
>say something only a tendie would be stupid enough to say
>get called a tendie
>"rent free!"
You're an idiot.

>>718031041
Goldeneye BTFOs Quake, pee seethe.

>>718031489
Okay, tendie.

>>717909257 (OP)
>similar design
kino

>>718032161
holy shit

>>717946034
Superior Review:
https://mmhp.net/GameHints/MMX4.html#Review

>>718032609
>it's just like MM8
>also the sprite animations aren't that good
What the fuck am I reading?

>>718025886
CRUSH A REAVERBOT WITH MY BARE HANDS.
SUPLEX A SERVBOT THROUGH A WALL OF FRIDGE MAGNETS.
KICK VOLNUTT OFF THE BLOODY KTOX STATION.
NO SURVIVORS.

>>718033387
I browse this board every day but somehow I've never noticed you also post here. I usually see you in the Super Sentai general

whats the best version of MML to emulate?

i'm not that one anon that keeps posting it
but this one is the better shooter-platformer series
credit to the rpg mechanics, though

>>718036469
PS1 is the best version to play by far.
N64 has the fog and visually just looks worse. The controls are also worse if I remember right even with rebinding.
PC has crashes out the ass and so many other issues. You can also just look at the PCGamingWiki entry for it to see the fixes you have to do and it still doesn't address everything.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends

>>718033932
This has been my home board for like 19 or 20 years now. Dear lord.