Thread 718043823

I think X is arguably the most popular/iconic Final Fantasy which is saying something with the steady stream of exposure that Final Fantasy VII has received over the years (Advent Children, a variety of spin-offs, remake begging for 20 years then no one showing up halfway through the remake project, 2 remake games out with a 3rd on the way). Is it the protagonist? I'm not sure. I like Tidus but I'm not sure where people generally land on him. He isn't cool like Cloud or Squall or Lightning. Is it the party? The setting? The battle system? Being the right game at the right time?

>>718043823 (OP)
Buy an ad

it has Auron, which is like a cool Batman samurai, and Lulu who had big boobs

I don't really know what else to say

the first couple of hours of this game are so boring

>>718043972
>the first couple of hours of this game are so boring

>>718044130
LMAO

>>718043823 (OP)
i mean...it's obviously not the most iconic FF. i think FFX is maybe the last time square enix really played it safe with the series and just gave players what they wanted, for better or for worse. the characters feel a bit too much like a pastiche of their FF7 and 8 counterparts for me, and the combat is completely forgettable.
when i see people talk about wanting square to make some kind of post-expedition 33 turnbased FF, i think people envision something kinda like FFX

>>718043823 (OP)
great combat, great cast of characters, great world building, the best soundtrack in the series, early game on the ps2, fantastic production value and art direction, surprisingly good voice acting for 2001
it also helps that X has a great ending that wraps up both the story of the setting and the characters in a satisfying way. this increases its belovedness while also ensuring that theres not much else to go as a franchise. you can't expand with sequels and spinoffs like VII because the first game wrapped everything up so neatly. that's why X-2, while a fine game, isn't really interesting from a plot or even character perspective

>>718044330
i dont know how someone can call the combat forgettable. its one of the most noteworthy aspects of the game. when i think 'forgettable classic FF combat', i think IX

>>718043823 (OP)
it's an isekai story done well

>>718044407
>i dont know how someone can call the combat forgettable. its one of the most noteworthy aspects of the game. when i think 'forgettable classic FF combat', i think IX
Yeah, X's combat is the best JRPG combat I've ever encountered. I like it more than FF VII Remake's (which is saying something because I do really like the combat in the FF VII Remake series) battle system.

>>718044638
it wasn't as good as Shin Megami Tensei V

>>718044638
I hate action combat, so I was surprised by how much I liked Remake/Rebirth's combat. They kinda did this genius thing where it looks really real-time action if your just watching it, but it plays like classic ATB. While I would prefer if it was just classic RPG, I admit its a good move from a marketing perspective and appeasing both casual players and core fans. I just wish instead of Remake and Rebirth, we got XVII and XVIII instead

>>718044630
It's an isekai story where the MC is a popular cool guy BEFORE being isekai'd.

>>718045032
I really love how Tidus is this super cool popular jock type, who actually has all these insecurities and negative qualities to his character. It made his arc really satisfying and also, especially in 2001, we barely had characters like that. The super cool awesome guy protagonist was all surface level, and if we got a character with more emotional depth it was in like a silent hill where all the characters have obvious baggage.

>>718045191
Also more realistic that it's a footballer who gets a hotpants popstar gf with a peculiar religious background.

>Arguably the best or 2nd best OST
>Really unique world
>Very clear characters and character arcs
>Best version of ATB (No more wait bar)
>Great story
>Goated minigame
FF7 may be my favorite FF game especially with my nostalgia but even I have to admit FFX might legitimately be better

>>718043823 (OP)
I honestly think it is waay overrated and is only popular for girls because of the love story. XII, XIII, and XV are all better, presentation and gameplay-wise. X isn't even in my top 5.

>>718045310
Yuna might be the best female protagonist design of all time.
also great waifu

>>718043823 (OP)
Good combat.
Flexible customization.
Likable characters (mostly).
Nice world.
Brilliant soundtrack.

>>718043823 (OP)
>cringe kino
>genuine
>interesting turn based gameplay even if it's just very advanced RPS
>great soundtrack
It's pretty well made I'd say

>>718043823 (OP)
It's the fact that it, like 7, is consistent. It doesn't have the highs of 8 or 12 but it also doesn't have the lows. It's a generally solid experience all the way through so people don't bounce off it like the other non-7 entries.
It also has prettier graphics and sappy romance so it appeals to casuals and women more.

>>718043823 (OP)
Yin and Yang personified.

>>718043823 (OP)
its crazy how similar it is to ff13 ignoring the fact its completely different.
>hallway simulator
>really good music
honestly ff13 having fixed battles is considered a plus in my eyes, but i can understand random battles having its own benefits. If ff13 had more rpg elements and a more streamlined story it'd probably be just as incredible as 10 but they wanted to be le different

>>718043823 (OP)
If you were alive at the time of release, it was a huge step in people's eyes in terms of graphics. My friends and I were raving how the "regular" graphics looked like the FMV CG graphics of FF7. There was just a lot of excitement about the step up in quality, plus the hype from the relatively new PS2. It's hard to convey if you weren't there and understand the expectations people had in the past. People who live in more modern times with modern tech don't really understand how large the comparison is from a PS1 FF to a PS2 FF. To them it doesn't look like a huge step up at all, insignificant even.

Fantastic first playthrough.
Garbage side content.
Awful on replays.

>>718047361
its a shame that most people playing today are playing the garbage remaster. mods can't even fix all of it because they fucked with lighting too

>>718047946
Tidus face reminds me of people who are never satisfied with their plastic surgery and constantly go back to change things.

>>718047424
Well I enjoy the main campaign on replays. I just never do the side content

>>718043823 (OP)
>I think X is arguably the most popular/iconic Final Fantasy which is saying something with the steady stream of exposure that Final Fantasy VII has received over the years (Advent Children, a variety of spin-offs, remake begging for 20 years then no one showing up halfway through the remake project, 2 remake games out with a 3rd on the way). Is it the protagonist? I'm not sure. I like Tidus but I'm not sure where people generally land on him. He isn't cool like Cloud or Squall or Lightning. Is it the party? The setting? The battle system? Being the right game at the right time?
>we want the kdrama audience

>>718048251
The more cinematic direction of every scene kills it for me. Everything is dragged out way too long.

>>718047946
Don't worry. The remake will fix this.

>>718045907
I concur. Yuna is definitely pretty top tier waifu.

>>718043823 (OP)
You ever notice how Tidus keeps becoming whiter with each newer Final Fantasy media? That is in the original Nomura artwork Tidus looked white skinned. But in the ingame graphics his model had a tan. But in sequel media like Word of Final Fantasy and Dissidia Tidus' skin notably got whiter. It's like Square Enix is trying to change Tidus into being a milky pale Japanese type of Asian and not one from Laos or Singapore.

Wouldn't it be funny if Square Enix remakes Final Fantasy 10 and Tidus' skin is as white as Cloud? That would be hilarious.

>>718047946
Everyone talks about the face but his necklace also looked better when it wasn't completely obvious that it was a 2D texture. The original blends it with his torso texture better.

>>718047946
I’m expecting SE to do a UE5 remake of this game similar to Oblivion and MGS Delta

>>718043823 (OP)
Anyone else not like the twist that Tidus was a Summon? I just didn't like it. I understand the mechanics of how it works but its badly presented and not really explained. If you need fans to explain something to you then the game did a trash job.

And the problem to me is that the twist exists. Felt like a try hard attempt to have an emotional sad ending.I just hated that twist didn't help I wasn't that attached to Tidus so the whole him leaving Yuna and then implied he's returning to the real world was half assed nonsense.

>>718043823 (OP)
-It had my favorite cast of characters that felt well written and they felt like real people instead of anime stereotypes. Auron and Kimari were the only anime stereotypes, and auron was cool enough for me to forgive it
-I love that the game is linear, but done right. People demonize linear, but a really well done linear game can neatly control pacing and memorable events instead of stumbling upon them too early or too late, etc
-Simple combat system that still had depth
-One of my favorite video game soundtracks of all time

>>718045907
No she isn't. She's an idiot who finds out that her religion wants to kill her and her decision is to intentionally commit suicide as her religion demands because she's too dumb to live. I don't respect her because she wants to be a sacrificial lamb. A dumbass like that deserved to be allowed to die. It's such wish fulfillment bullshit that a woman is that nice and self sacrificial to the point of being bullshit even for fiction.

At least when Aerith got killed in FF7 it wasn't Aerith doing it intentionally but she used her death to revenge on the cunt who killed her by tarnishing his scheme.

>>718049145
That anon was talking about her design. And it's true. Traditional japanese clothes with boots rock ever since Kara no Kyoukai.

>>718047424
Worst sidequests. Each one of them is to ridiculously tedious especially getting the ultimate weapons. And maxing the sphere grid is extremely time consuming and annoying.

>>718049212
i kinda wish getting the celestial weapons had more to do with the character in question then just doing a random minigame. playing blitzball for wakka's weapon makes sense, because that man is all about blitzball, but how does dodging lightning or capturing monsters tie into lulu or yuna? just feels a bit thrown in, like oh we have all these minigames just put the weapons in there to give a reason to do them

>>718049194
Alright in that front but as a character I found Yuna's extreme kind devotion like a Jesus Christ figure to be annoying. Even Jesus when faced with his execution had a moment of doubt where he says he does not want to die. Yuna is the opposite she doesn't mind dying even the Ronso Maester asked her "Why are you willing to kill yourself for a world that hates you?" And I can't stand Yuna's bullshit excuse about how only she can kill Sin. Keep in mind that she says this while still believing in the false Final Aeon tradition that has been proven to NOT work.

As a character I cannot stand Yuna. And I simply don't believe that women are self sacrificial. In real life I've seen far too much evidence showing women are selfish parasite hideous creatures who happily kill children through abortion and betray their husbands and other nasty things so in retrospect I can't stand Yuna's character she's so extreme wish fulfillment that I just hate her.

>>718049145
>>718049365
yuna's devotion is actually treated as kinda a bad thing, its good that shes humble but her willingness to die is considered a character flaw. she thought she was doing the right thing but she was really just hurting her friends, and she even apologizes after the whole seymour marriage thing that she should've just trusted her friends and told them how she was feeling

>>718049351
The worst part is that the celestial weapons aren't the strongest. The best weapons are the ones you craft and give the best abilities like Break Damage Limit.

Speaking about that I hate that mechanic because the ingredients to create the ideal ultimate weapons with the best abilities are tedious and time consuming. You literally need a guide to know which ingredients give you which abilities and that alone means the game is shit. And keep in mind you need a LOT of copies of the same ingredient especially if you want to give all your characters the best abilities such as Break Damage Limit. And it goes on.

I honestly don't enjoy playing Final Fantasy X because it wastes my time. I don't see the fun in a game that intentionally wastes the player's time like that.

>>718049145
>finds out
What are you talking about? It's not a secret or anything.

>>718049564
i thought the celestial weapons came with break damage limit? its been awhile

>>718049628
Celestial Weapons start with no abilities and no AP gain. You can find a Crest to unlock a few abilities but you need both the Crest and Sigil to fully unlock each Celestial Weapons potential. Celestial Weapons also have the innate ability to ignore enemy defense which isn't listed

>>718049548
I still stand by that Yuna is one of the best written female characters. She is a "strong female character" without actually being a girl boss. You can be girly and feminine but still be brave and not cry and scream every 5 minutes. But when bad writers want a strong female character, they just write a man, but then make the girl do flips and kicks and shoulder throw the tough guys over in fights.

Yuna knows that she is going to be sacrificed and she takes it on the shoulder. She happily agrees to a bad marriage if it brings peace. With such a shitty life she still remains positive and kind. When she decides to stop the sin cycle, it's not for revenge, or to save her own ass, it's because she has hope of making the world a better place forever.

Love yuna, hate what they did to her in x-2

>>718049548
The problem is none of her friends speak to her like how she deserves to be spoken to. To be insulted, to be called out to be an idiot, for wanting to save ignorant masses who want to kill her and keep in mind the people of Spira who wanted Yuna to die they wanted to kill her without she doing the Final Aeon so it was a matter of hateful sadism they wanted to kill her for the sake of killing her.

And yet Yuna still is so innocent and naive she totally wants to give these people a chance to be happy by riding the world of Sin? Look I just can't play Final Fantasy X anymore Yuna is the driving force of the story and I can't stand her. I was hoping for a scene with Auron telling Yuna...

"I had to watch your damn father kill himself! Do you think I want to escort his daughter that would be you to your suicide!"

And I know Auron always planned to attack Yunalesca but the point is I wanted Auron to knock some sense into Yuna directly because she really needed rougher words and harsher treatment. Everyone treated her like the soft snowflake little flower and that got annoying in the cut scenes.

>>718049839
one very underappreciated part of FFX is its female characters. they are all very different from each other, both in design and personality and appeal, but they are all extremely feminine. i feel like that kind of nuance is lost on modern designers

>>718049852
>The problem is none of her friends speak to her like how she deserves to be spoken to. To be insulted, to be called out to be an idiot, for wanting to save ignorant masses who want to kill her and keep in mind the people of Spira who wanted Yuna to die they wanted to kill her without she doing the Final Aeon so it was a matter of hateful sadism they wanted to kill her for the sake of killing her.
The literal culture and religion they grew up with pracitcally brainwashed them into thinking that sacrificing was the correct thing to do. They all thought they were part of a noble cause and that the summoner sacrifice was just a part of life. Of course they wouldn't insult her or call her out until the al bhed kind of changed their perspective

>>718049986
Not really dude. They follow the trio archetype.

The Walking Boobs
The bland main girl
The energetic hyper annoying girl or genki

Too many RPGs tend to have these archetypes. Though I suppose its rarer to see all three within the same game.

X is so much better than 7 in every single way it's not even funny.

>>718044857
Square loves to do this shit where they don't commit to either turn based or action and instead shit out these half assed blends

>>718050012
Not much else to say, but the story of Final Fantasy X is simply not for me. Doesn't help that the cultural religion being evil was an old cliche even by the year FFX debuted. Doesn't help that Final Fantasy Tactics also did that cliche before FFX was created.

>>718050081
even being reductive like that thats still a lot more diversity than modern female characters. even limiting ourselves to FF we have XVI Jill who, aside from her frilly dress, is pretty much just a man who acts as Clive's servant.

>>718043823 (OP)
Good characters
Good setting
Good story
Good music
Good grafix
Good enough gameplay

Let me guess, you need more?

>>718050176
I like FF7 much more because its conflict is more relatable. The main villains being corporate rich bankers and executives is more realistic than magical demons and gods. The thing that disappointed me about FF7 is that the story gets derailed by Sephiroth the left field alien experiment gone wrong.

I really wanted Shinra Corp to remain the central villains. And I hate how Shinra's surviving executives were forgiven for their crimes in Advent Children when they should be getting publicly lynched to death for devastation the world.

>>718050284
nevermind the face or the lighting, wtf is going on with those background textures?

E33 is better
E33 is better

>>718050369
nah, but E33 was great

I wish I could play this game but my PS2 disc is fucked up and the remaster is really really bad or something. Sad that this game is basically out of print.

>>718050462
your PCSX2?

>>718050369
Maybe it is but I don't like rhythm rpgs so I'll never play it.

>>718045907
her weapon being a giant kitten-paw-shaped back scratcher helped a lot with endearing her with the younger audience who otherwise didnt understand her personality or appreciate her beauty

>>718050129
Its true what this post said >>718048591

Tidus does get whiter skin in later media.

>>718049145
just admit you're too chicken to sacrifice yourself for others
stop bringing up religion mumbo jumbo whenever theres talk of sacrifice

>>718044638
>Yeah, X's combat is the best JRPG combat I've ever encountered
Nah, Grandia 2's combat is better, and doesn't have random battles. X's combat is still good though.

>>718050462
>and the remaster is really really bad or something
It's not that bad. don't listen to /v/, they will act like even the smallest downgrade is unforgiveable, meanwhile all improvements are irrelevant.
Yes, it's a bad remaster, but a bad remaster doesn't necessarily have to ruin the game. there are other graphical improvements which are more noticeable than the shapes of the characters faces, improved performance, and it has all of the extra content from other rereleases.

>>718050671
improvements such as?
the new OST is an improvement as it is optional
but other than that?
they didn't even bother adding a cutscene skip

>>718050129
>we put the light on their faces
>you know see more details
>graphixxx banzai

>>718048542
Censored SE slope with niggers no thanks

>>718050501
But doesn’t that change the way the game was originally intended to be played? I thought we were defenders of the original artistic vision? PS2 connected to a CRT with the original release copy.

>>718050827
idc about that, the remaster just looks worse
but if you must play on a ps2, mod it and download a rom. it's easy

FFX was the last one that really felt like they built a self-contained fantastical world. Everything after was either convoluted and boring (FNC) or generic flavorless slop (XVI).

>>718050634
Because you would sacrifice yourself? Humans are horrible animals. To quote Yunalesca's sarcastic comment regarding humanity...

"Do you really think humans will ever reach such purity?"

I truly believe humans are just hideous creatures whose main drive is selfishness. In real life a philosopher said intelligent life's main core is selfishness. And given how humans took over the Earth through this selfish raw instinct the statement proved to be true. No shame though but I hate people pretending mankind is noble, honorable, nice, etc. Especially when the Jews who own humanity are so revolting and grossly evil. And they are the masters and representatives of humanity. They are the ones who influence how international society functions. And the future is a bleak one.

>>718050827
yeah if you can get that then thats obviously the best way. but emulating it is better than not playing it at all

>>718050932
Square Soft compared to Square Enix
it's what happens when you lose a big portion of your talented staff instantly, get new leadership and continue to bleed talented staff for years to come

FF10 is the perfect summer rpg.

>>718043823 (OP)
It's the last one that still had the style and RPG aspects of the old games, but added decent 3d graphics.
Afterward you got MMO, non-MMO styled like an MMO, linear movie game, other MMO and whatever the fuck slop the rest was.

>>718050957
you creatures try to make sacrifice look wrong just so you wouldn't lose face if someone asked you if you would sacrifice yourself, when you can just decline

>>718049145
>She's an idiot who finds out
So you didn't even play the game.

They're gonna retcon that novel where Tidus kicks a bomb thinking it was a blitzball and gets his head blown off, right?

>>718050827
Not really, worst case just play in software mode and it's exactly the same.

>>718050671
It's worse than these images imply because it's the animations that look the worst.

>>718048591
I thought he was supposed to be mediterranean or something

>>718043823 (OP)
Frutiger Aesthetics and To Zanarkand. The game itself sucks and the few people who actually played it back then know it

>>718044130
NTA, but FFX has the worst opening in the series, which is exactly why I can never agree with you people recommending it as the first FF for newcomers.

The Blitzball tournament is pretty good, but then you're stuck swimming; one of the worst activities in videogames, in a ruin, then scrounging up resources in said ruin, then talk to people you can't understand, then swim again, then learn that everything you've tried to ingest thus far is meaningless, since it was supposedly a 1000 years ago, then you wash up ashore and things are seemingly looking up beside the lake swim, but you're immediately thrown into the goddamn Cloister of Trials after which you'll have to go through the battle tutorial until the game can start.

This opening is horrendous.

Glad it finally took its place as the last good Final Fantasy. Now stop the clock, there isn't any good FFs after this one.

>>718054093
I keep a save that starts directly at Besaid because that whole sequence gets old.

>>718044857
>I hate action combat
>I like Rebirth
>parryslop
>OHKO attacks
>Tight inputs and timing
You like action combat.

>>718054154
The best one came right after thoughbeit.

good game
decent story
amazing soundtrack

The aesthetic is both somber and optimistic, colorful and washed out. I wouldn't say it feels real, but there's a certain completeness to the feeling of the world. I wish it was less linear and the combat less cheeseable, the setting really scratches an itch other games yet to scratch. I tired playing Xenogears I and there are like 5 hours of cutscenes in the first 10 hours of the game.

>>718043823 (OP)
>2000 era water/beach frutiger aero aesthetics
>impressive graphics during its era
>a good balance between linear and open exploration
>plot deep yet not convoluted
>tidus is classic fish out of water protagonist
>tidus and yunas relationship is pulled off well with good chemistry and it ends with a massive tear jerker
>fun hidden bosses and gameplay
>rest of the ragtag cast has depth and have their own backstory that you get to explore
It's pretty much one of the best, if not the best FF because it has consistency, substance and well crafted. Nothing convoluted nor controversial. The fact that the Tidus laugh is the only thing thag has been mocked for 20 yeara says something about this masterpiece. Even then, retards still doesn't understand the context of the Tidus laugh scene

>>718050369
FF7 > FF6 > E33 > FF10 > FF9

>>718050827
obviously not when all the comparison images are emulation rendered at 4x the resolution

New console, babbys first JRPG and all that.

>>718054093
Why don't you actually explain what's wrong with it rather than just summarizing the first few hours of the game?

>>718053232
he is very clearly japanese

>playing through X again
>get to the Lake Macalania section
>talk to Rikku
>"Lulu's so mature...all grown up I guess. Well, just give me 5 or 6 more years"
>she actually MIMES herself having bigger boobs
>pats her butt as well
Literally how the fuck have I never noticed this before?
Rikku is now best girl, confirmed

>>718056974
7 isn't so bad

>>718043823 (OP)
>make combat system so good that people call it the best combat in any jrpg
>include a spell that makes every other spell worthless

what were they thinking?

>>718061571
this is entirely because the arbitrary damage limit is retardedly low for how high your stats can get so going faster and hitting more often is the only way to get more damage

>>718061665
but they should have known that and balanced it accordingly, theres no way they didnt realize how overpowered quick hit is

>>718050369
Nah

>>718054093
>FFX has the worst opening in the series
If you're a brainrot addled zoomer, sure. Otherwise, FFX's intro is fucking excellent and does a great job of portraying how confused and out of his element Tidus is, and perfectly sets up the scene where he arrives at Besaid and finds people he has something in common with in Blitzball.

>>718043823 (OP)
I'm only up to just having beaten the seymour fight and haven't played in a few weeks but it really is great, I do find it odd how quickly it breezes through some things though, also i've been playing so long and barely have any language letters, either they're massivly backloaded or I'm not as far in as I think I am

>>718043823 (OP)
Tidus is cool without being homo emo like Cloud or Squall, Yuna is sexy without being porn bait like Tifa, the story is basically a Greek tragedy that goes from the mystic to the oneiric, it checks all the Heroes Journey Mythos of John Campbell, men can relate with Tidus struggle with his father and his new relation with a strange land, and women can self insert as Yuna as the story is more woman centric than male centric where Yuna is the moving engine of the game, she's the one that has to die to defeat Sin, she's the one that was trained since very young to fulfill a destiny and she was even forced to marry a man she didn't love because convenience.

Then you look at the companions and see archetypes of the wise wizard in Auron, the loyal companion in Wakka, the silent guardian in Khimari, the exotic beauty in Lulu, the naive ingenuity in Rikku and it gives you the best plantel of companions only rivalling with Final Fantasy 6.

12 is better. I see why its not discussed here, its too high IQ

>>718063362
Anon everyone watched Star Wars a New Hope

>>718063362
only low IQ people defend 12

>>718043823 (OP)
It had soul, It was made by Gen x'ers

>>718054239
>>718057021
>>718062042
tedious

Great cast of characters
Great story
Great, fully-realized setting
Great combat system that remains tactical until you get Quick Hit around the time you fight Yunalesca
Great soundtrack
Great, timeless aesthetic
Huge amount of rewarding optional content and challenges

>>718054093
It's called a hook.
If you're the type of ADHD addicted zoomie who skips cutscenes and doesn't know/care what's going on in the story, then obviously playing a story-heavy game isn't going to be fun. Play fortnight.

>>718059863
In the gameplay he is white, in the FMVs he's asian

>>718048591
Maybe if you stopped being obsessed with race for 10 seconds people would stop calling you a 3rd world brownoid

>>718043823 (OP)
Why does this game get a pass for being a hallway, but 13 doesn't?

>>718066708
I never gave it a pass, but it's because there were NPCs, towns, camera enabled secrets, understandable environment and variance of activities.

>>718066708
10's hallways had more stuff to do in them than fight battles

>>718047153
FF13 has really shit characters, no interesting story or anything really. In FFX you feel like you experienced a big chunk of Spira, its culture and places but when it comes to FF13's Pulse and Cocoon, these don't even feel like they were real actual places. What was Pulse even? Just a bunch of ugly flat textures and dinosaurs looking things? It was awful.

>>718066708
because those hallways are actually interesting
13 doesn't even have towns to chill in

>>718043823 (OP)
>with the steady stream of exposure that Final Fantasy VII has received over the years (Advent Children, a variety of spin-offs, remake begging for 20 years then no one showing up halfway through the remake project, 2 remake games out with a 3rd on the way)
Thanks for clarifying what you were talking about, I was confused by what you could have meant at first

>>718044767
>>718050640
Both correct.
I honestly can't grasp my head around people claiming FFX's combat was even good to begin with. It was just attack and heal like every other FF game before it. Almost any Jrpg you could mention has better combat than FFX's. Even FF13's combat is way better.

10 has above average combat, character building. Plot is decently paced and does not take itself so seriously that the lack of logic becomes jarring. It came out when the ps2 released so lot of nostalgiapoints there. Even if there's practically no exploration the game has it's share of fans, but definitely not above FF7 and 14.

>>718043823 (OP)
Idk but it’s my favourite
I just liked the world, character/enemy designs, battle system, and so on.

X and IX I’d say are my favourites, maybe 3rd is VIII
>>718048967
I never had any issue understanding it, his entire world is just a dream that has become so elaborate and evolved over time.
He was basically living in a simulation and in the end they shut the simulation down.

>>718043870
Damn you tendies can't really stand people talking about other games

>>718063362
For years I've been waiting for someone who claims FF12 to be good to actually explain what is good about it. Because is not its shitty story or inconsequential characters, its tedious and boring combat nor dull as fuck dungeons... Then what the fuck is it? Other than excellent graphics for a PS2 game FF12 has literally nothing else going for it. Not even the soundtrack is remarkable. The game is fucking boring ass trash.

X remake with Rebirth-esque combat, yes or no?

>>718069054
I wouldn't say no (I think) but after E33 there is no reason not to iterate on the original formula

>>718060373
She’s the main reason I like X-2

>>718069284
I see plenty of reason not to. FFX is one of the few FF where buffs, debuffs and status effects are somewhat valuable. The ability to parry everything negates that instantly.

>>718068887
As a person, who hates XII: The architecture, Ashe's wiggling ass animations, that lowly Archadian guard hiring you out of his own pocket for a hunt to protect the local Rabanastrer civilians, because he's a nice guy and the final boss' first form is pretty nifty. Everything else is awful.

>>718045907
Ok i wasnt going to seethe but i cant let this slide.
>le great waifu
But kisses other men completely VOLUNTARY, what a joke.
Inb4 she was forced, no she wasnt stop coping.

>>718070250
Oh man, if you're getting that heated over it, you better steer clear of the novel.

>>718070608
Didnt even know it existed, let me guess they ntr bait it even more? Is this shit written by a foid?
Do whatever you want but atleast dont misuse a term pisses me off.

>>718069774
sry I didn't mean to imply they should wholesale copy E33 combat but instead stick with the turn-based combat and build on that

>>718070747
It's hard NTR actually. The writer is Nojima. And yes he and Toriyama definitely have had a fetish for it from the start of their career at Square.