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Anonymous No.718045696 >>718045864 >>718046149 >>718046301 >>718046363 >>718046386 >>718047001 >>718047437 >>718047517 >>718047728 >>718051106 >>718051507 >>718051793 >>718052841 >>718054284 >>718056554 >>718056635 >>718061934
I'm unraping that girl Joker and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Anonymous No.718045837 >>718046526
Escapism is for sissies.
Anonymous No.718045864
>>718045696 (OP)
There are no good arguments against the Experience Machine
Anonymous No.718046149
>>718045696 (OP)
hope you got her consent first
Anonymous No.718046194
Rape is essential to the human condition.
Anonymous No.718046301 >>718046387 >>718046457 >>718046543 >>718046581 >>718046617 >>718046728 >>718047250 >>718047451 >>718050037 >>718051265 >>718051298 >>718051837 >>718052189 >>718059614 >>718062050 >>718062726 >>718063216
>>718045696 (OP)
so why exactly were we supposed to be against him again?
Anonymous No.718046363
>>718045696 (OP)
How the FUCK do you unrape someone without time travel?
Anonymous No.718046386
>>718045696 (OP)
you're not really unraping her, just making her thnk she wasn't raped. even though she actually was
Anonymous No.718046387 >>718052506
>>718046301
Because escapism bad nigga
Anonymous No.718046457
>>718046301
He's trying to strip me of the right to rape.
Anonymous No.718046526
>>718045837
What a handsome man
Anonymous No.718046543 >>718047235
>>718046301
Let's say I fucked your mom and cummed in he throat in front of you.
Do you want to forget that I ever did that? Even if you do, the action still has already been done.
Anonymous No.718046581
>>718046301
Because he was a mortal trying to do a god's work. He'd ultimately reach the same conclusion that Yaldabaoth was set on enacting, that the only way to achieve human harmony is to strip the humanity out of them, making them placid sheep who are content with having absolutely nothing. No desires, no ambitions, no spirit, just a drowsy state of bliss. That way there can be no conflicts of interest in trying to fulfill everyone's desires simultaneously, which is what Maruki is constantly bumping into during the trial run of his reality, as he's constantly having to rewrite people to address when a desire gets in the way of someone else's dreams, or if a desire is inherently detrimental or harmful to someone else.
Now whether or not this is a bad thing hinges entirely on whether or not you value free will, and that's where the discourse over whether he's right or wrong truly comes from once you get past the rape/unrape memes.
Anonymous No.718046617
>>718046301
Brainwashing is bad
Anonymous No.718046728 >>718047098 >>718052414
>>718046301
Why the hell should I entrust anyone with the power to completely govern my life and even my very personality? Because he promised he’d be nice?
Anonymous No.718046746 >>718050586 >>718059534
Aieeee
Anonymous No.718047001 >>718047109
>>718045696 (OP)
But you won't release the Epstein list, why?
Anonymous No.718047098
>>718046728
>Why the hell should I entrust anyone with the power to completely govern my life and even my very personality? Because he died for me on the cross?
Anonymous No.718047109 >>718047265 >>718047757
>>718047001
Because in Maruki's reality, Epstein and everyone who went to his island weren't pedophiles, but instead highly respectable folks who always did the right thing. Therefore, the list doesn't exist in his reality, because there's no reason for it to be relevant in a world where the disease known as pedophilia has been cured.
Anonymous No.718047121 >>718050546
But I don't want to be an archer, I want to be an artist.
Anonymous No.718047161
okay, but there was a reason to make a girl believe she was another person when she could just bring back to life her sister.
Anonymous No.718047235
>>718046543
>Do you want to forget that I ever did that?
yes? of course I would?
Anonymous No.718047250 >>718049142
>>718046301
We were against him because of le self agency and walking muh own path shit. Basically trading one Thor of mind prison for another one but it’s bad now because it just is okay!
Anonymous No.718047265 >>718047440
>>718047109
You don't know that. He still locked up Shido, and we don't know what he did to the other villains
Anonymous No.718047437 >>718051793
>>718045696 (OP)
If you seek to aid everyone that suffers in the galaxy, you will only weaken yourself... and weaken them. It is the internal struggles, when fought and won on their own, that yield the strongest rewards.
Anonymous No.718047440
>>718047265
That was likely only a temporary measure. Total human harmony cannot be achieved if there are still criminals, because it would beg the question "why are these people bad when everyone else is so good?" and risk the sanctity of paradise. Either everyone is a saint, or paradise is a lie.
Anonymous No.718047451 >>718061050
>>718046301
Brainwashing is bad (unless we do it which is good)
Anonymous No.718047485
yes you NEED to get flayed alive while funky town plays in the background, it builds character
Anonymous No.718047517 >>718049369 >>718050121
>>718045696 (OP)
>The most sympathetic and least insane Law character is in a fucking Persona game
As an SMTfag who's shit on Persoyna for years, I feel ashamed, but I have to concede that you've beaten us in that department.
Anonymous No.718047650
>you dont understand you NEED to suffer, no im not gonna trust you to do the right thing cause my preconceived childish notions that everyone le bad cause im a cock smoking nihilistic loser
Anonymous No.718047728
>>718045696 (OP)
He did literally nothing wrong and I'm sick of pretending otherwise. There's zero arguments against him except muh free will
Anonymous No.718047757
>>718047109
If you brainwashed Jeffrey Epstein, he wouldn't be Jeffrey Epstein anymore.
Anonymous No.718049142
>>718047250
My take on the whole scenario is that the phantom thieves were wrong to begin with and Maruki just took it to the logical extreme, and ultimately Royal is a story about how one should accept the world as an imperfect one filled with imperfect people instead of trying to be a martyr in the pursuit of perfection.
Anonymous No.718049261 >>718049510
>hey anon I noticed you were lonely, so I gave you a reality where you get to bang that one hot chick from your work every day
>NOOOOO! NOOOOOOO! I HAVE TO GO BACK TO MASTURBATING
Anonymous No.718049369
>>718047517
Smt1 law hero was a bro, before the lobotomozation
Anonymous No.718049510 >>718050916
>>718049261
How is this supposed to be a perfect reality for the hot chick?
Anonymous No.718049704
Do people still not realize he just made everyone see hallucinations?
Anonymous No.718050002 >>718052841
>Letting some random fuck decide what life you're supposed to live is good, actually
Anonymous No.718050018 >>718050178 >>718050717
>it's bad when yaldabaoth uses magic powers to artificially shape the world in his image
>it's bad when maruki uses magic powers to artificially shape the world in his image
>it's morally correct and objectively good when the phantom thieves use magic powers to artificially shape the world in his image
Your stance against both antagonists is a direct contradiction to what you've been doing all game from the start, yet this is never once addressed. Is there any reason why there is literally never even one scene where everyone stops and says
>hey, wait, maruki's doing exactly what we've been doing. Have we been the bad guys this whole time?
even once.
Anonymous No.718050037 >>718050145
>>718046301
He's basically that sort of game developer who forces easy mode on you after your first failure against an actually challenging section of the game, without giving you the chance to improve and feel accomplished doing it
Anonymous No.718050121
>>718047517
SMT feels like it intentionally goes too extreme with law and chaos to try to entice you into the neutral routes.
Anonymous No.718050145 >>718050479
>>718050037
>the rape was just the tutorial
Anonymous No.718050178 >>718050216 >>718050251 >>718050921
>>718050018
Isn't it a big deal that the thieves' entire operation was just feeding into Yaldy's shit, and then they immediately disband after it? They only go at Maruki because he's fucking with the whole world, and he doesn't exactly receive the lobotomy the other palace rulers did.
Anonymous No.718050194 >>718052224 >>718052463 >>718062257
Wasn't there some major flaw? It wasn't a perfect reality because you're ideal would clash against someone else's?
Anonymous No.718050216
>>718050178
>crimes are okay if it only affects a couple people
Anonymous No.718050251 >>718050303 >>718050334
>>718050178
They disband because they were forced too, since the Metaverse no longer exists and they have no idea how to use their powers outside of it.
Anonymous No.718050303
>>718050251
This, and all the spinoffs show they'd gladly keep Phantom Thieving in Metaverse-like scenarios if they were able to, so it's entirely a matter of "Erm... our way is the RIGHT way, actually" more than anything.
Anonymous No.718050334
>>718050251
I misremembered then.
Anonymous No.718050479 >>718050551
>>718050145
>this is just the tutorial bitch! That's the first level over there!
>Whaaaaaaaaaat's up
Anonymous No.718050546
>>718047121
FUCK YOU, SEEING YOU BE BAD AT ART MAKES ME, GOD, FEEL BAD, SO YOU'RE AN ARCHER NOW
Anonymous No.718050551
>>718050479
Is this fucking egoraptor style?
Anonymous No.718050586
>>718046746
KEK
Anonymous No.718050717 >>718050759 >>718050768 >>718050841
>>718050018
>Yaldabaoth is a singular entity making decisions unilaterally
>Maruki is a singular entity making decisions unilaterally
>the Phantom Thieves are 8 different people making decisions based on unanimous consensus
Anonymous No.718050759
>>718050717
So if Yalby wrangled up 7 retards like Joker he'd be morally righteous? What kind of retarded cope is this?
Anonymous No.718050768
>>718050717
>no your honor, my six friends and a cat all agreed raping that girl was okay
Anonymous No.718050841
>>718050717
>he unironically trusts eight dumbfuck teenagers to be the arbiters of right and wrong, especially when that involves meddling with political affairs that concern their entire fucking nation
Anonymous No.718050916
>>718049510
idk why is the perfect reality for madarame one where he goes legit
Anonymous No.718050921
>>718050178
>Isn't a big deal because me did it
>YOU did it? BIG DEAL ALERT!!!
Anonymous No.718051041 >>718051440
One shared perfect reality doesn't work, because there'd be conflicts between each person's wants/needs. I think he'd need to create a perfect reality for each individual, sort of like the Infinite Tsuyomi from Naruto.
Anonymous No.718051106 >>718051156
>>718045696 (OP)
Pain and suffering helps us grow as people.
Anonymous No.718051156 >>718053482
>>718051106
And what the point of growth in a perfect world retard?
Anonymous No.718051265
>>718046301
he was unironically retarded, he wasn't wrong but his methodology was... leaving much to be desired.
Anonymous No.718051298 >>718051440
>>718046301
Despite his omnipotence, he couldn't truly create a world where everyone is happy since it would create conflicts. The biggest example is Akechi, who spends the entire semester claiming he doesn't want to be a puppet who gets cleared of his crimes for free. If you accept Maruki's offer, Akechi gets brainwashed into an NPC with zero agency who's happy he's friends with Joker.
Anonymous No.718051440 >>718051901 >>718051946
>>718051041
MusubiCHADS win again
>>718051298
Is it morally correct to brainwash people to make them happy and functioning members of society? Genuinely asking, I think there's a case for both ways.
Anonymous No.718051507 >>718051590
>>718045696 (OP)
The rape happened, Maruki. You have to let her figure out how to overcome it.
Anonymous No.718051590 >>718051769
>>718051507
>I will unrape the girl.
STFU Marukitard, she's fine on her own
>I will mindrape the school teacher into feeling bad when he otherwise wouldn't.
OMG YES, GLORY TO THE PHANTOM THIEVES!
Anonymous No.718051769 >>718051869
>>718051590
Yes I believe you're starting to understand the difference in nuance between these two similar ideals. Phantom Thieves don't undo shit, they seek to punish those who do bad shit. Phantom Thieves wouldn't support the unraping of the girl because she learned and grew from the experience, but they WOULD go out of their way to punish the one who did it. Having experiences is what defines us in life. If we're just designed with stay some specific course, then that's not growth. There's nothing to be learned. Your life is laid out for you and all you can do is follow.
Anonymous No.718051793 >>718052153
>>718045696 (OP)
He just needed to kill himself to make sure no one could fuck up the better world he made
>>718047437
His world is objectively better and people would not get weaker because of it.
Anonymous No.718051837
>>718046301
If you agree with determinism, then you probably support Maruki.
Anonymous No.718051869 >>718051924
>>718051769
The fact that all experiences you can learn from have to be bad is a pretty narrow view of life.
Anonymous No.718051901
>>718051440
>Is it morally correct to brainwash people to make them happy and functioning members of society? Genuinely asking, I think there's a case for both ways.
Yes there is a case for both ways
>Are you the Phantom Thieves?
Yes it is morally correct
>Are you not the Phantom Thieves
No this is bad
Anonymous No.718051924
>>718051869
That's not even what I said, but if you're just gonna be a reductionist about it, then I'm not even interested in continuing this conversation.
Anonymous No.718051945 >>718052131
Reminder: If you come at it from the angle of "Maruki grants your wishes", you are a filthy secondary or speed reader. Maruki makes you take the path of least resistance and the "easy" option, then makes you content with that. You want to learn a skill but don't have that skill at the moment? You are better off doing this other thing instead, you are already good at that! You got someone who likes you but you are neutral to them? Get together! That's easier than any other option. Got a shitty job that you want to go on vacation to get away from? Just start liking your job instead lmao.
The only one time he went above and beyond were for the PTs, in which case it was to butter them up to his vision.
Anonymous No.718051946 >>718052245
>>718051440
>Is it morally correct to brainwash people
If I brainwashed you into becoming a tranny who loves cock up his ass, would you be okay with it? You'd be happy so it's fine, right?
Anonymous No.718052131
>>718051945
And even then, that bare minimum will still result in conflicts when it comes to ensuring each and every person will be made content and happy, because there will ALWAYS be someone who wants something that comes at the detriment of another.
His endgame is becoming Yaldabaoth 2 as he grows more desperate to fulfill his ambition, creating an empty husk world full of lifeless veggies that are eternally blissed out and full of euphoria over literally nothing. Stripped of humanity, and completely unable to die because death would remove them from this perceived everlasting happiness, away from his grasp.
Anonymous No.718052153 >>718052237
>>718051793
His world is one where people can't be people. He eventually strip them of any desire or want until were just in a hazy state of happiness. It's not a good world, it's a boring one with only one person truly being allowed to do anything.
Anonymous No.718052189
>>718046301
Suffering is good because it builds character yadda yadda said by people who didn't suffer even a fraction of what others did
Anonymous No.718052224
>>718050194
Yep. But instead of trying to fix the problems, PTs decided to tear down the whole thing instead.
Anonymous No.718052237 >>718053046
>>718052153
The purpose of life is the reproduce and be happy and if his world makes people closer to that whats the issue?
Anonymous No.718052245 >>718052462 >>718061273
>>718051946
it wouldn't be morally correct because homosexuality is sinful
Anonymous No.718052269
Maruki is a good character that /v/ has ruined by being absolutely retarded.
Anonymous No.718052414
>>718046728
As opposed to being governed by rich pedos who steal your money and start wars?
Anonymous No.718052462
>>718052245
Homosexuality isn't sinful in Maruki's world though.
Anonymous No.718052463 >>718052829
>>718050194
some of the "wishes" of individual persons would change them drastically as well
i remember seeing something about yusuke's class mate becoming an archer without him hearing much wanting to be one because it was "less painful"
Anonymous No.718052506 >>718052680 >>718052892
>>718046387
>escapism
It's not escapism if it's a new reality. Stories that say you need to go back to the shittier version of reality because it's "organic" is just retarded. There's growing evidence that we actually live in a simulation. Should we end up turning this simulation off if it means going to an apocalyptic hell hole because we're living an "escapist" reality in that case? No, why the fuck would you?
Anonymous No.718052573
MARUKIIIIIIII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiNr9cx3iWs
Anonymous No.718052680 >>718053684
>>718052506
Besides, escapism is only bad if you ACTUALLY have the power to change your reality and make it better, but actively choose not to.
For most people, the common twats who have no influence beyond deciding what they want to eat for dinner tonight, escapism is the only thing that keeps them from going mad from monotony and despair.
Anonymous No.718052784 >>718053056 >>718056483 >>718056639
It's not that the girl wouldn't ask to forget the rape. It's that she was never asked in the first place.

Of course there's room for traumatic memories to be revoked if they're too great to handle, but Sumire was never asked, Joker was never asked, none of his friends were ever asked, and Maruki's power and scope relied on deciding for them.

People brought back aren't real when the illusion breaks, they're alive because the dream wants them to be which is why Akechi isn't one of them when the illusion breaks because he's a living corpse where the others were memories and when reality resets he wills himself back with his fleshy body and probably the Wishing Star in the midquel 'how he survived' sequel that Atlus should made, and that's why we saw him on the train in the credits and that dream is held up by people who'd moved on with their lives and grown as people despite the dream and were never asked. Of course Mona wants to be Human, of course Ryuji wants to run again, but they want that on their terms. That's what Maruki didn't want to believe but the Phantom Theives did, people are supposed to be free to choose their own lives, hardships and victories and all.

Even if you don't agree, in the subtext he makes people who can't follow any ambitions properly go to sleep and never wake up. The guy was deciding people waking up or not, and he wasn't even stopping people from suicidal ideation like Mementos's additions showed.
Anonymous No.718052829
>>718052463
He rewrote the guy’s interest to be for archery yeah, since he had a better natural aptitude for it than what he actually wanted to do.
Anonymous No.718052841
>>718045696 (OP)
Persona writing is shallow and retarded, more news at 11:00
>>718050002
Same shit the phantom thieves were doing, yet they were never called out for this
Anonymous No.718052892 >>718053467
>>718052506
>There's growing evidence that we actually live in a simulation.
huh
Anonymous No.718053046 >>718053154
>>718052237
Because what's the point of being alive if you're in a drug induced haze never truly being in control of your own decisions? What's the point of "helping" people if you take what makes them people in the first place? The truth is that to find happiness is to be allowed to fail. To be able to overcome obstacles. Maruki would just eliminate any problem you have and if your wants clash with others he'd literally just rewrite your personality so that it wouldn't basically turning you into something else. If god wanted slaves he would've just made Adam and Eve robots who would never disobey him but then what would be the point?
Anonymous No.718053056 >>718053328
>>718052784
Yeahh and were any victims in phantom thieves cases asked before the gang use their mind rape magic? Of course not
Should have left them be with their choices to make retarded decisions
Anonymous No.718053154 >>718053328
>>718053046
Then why the phantom thieves even help like… anybody, at all. Just let them be, they need to overcome their obstacles right lmao
Anonymous No.718053328 >>718053450
>>718053154
Yeah, you can make that argument. That's literally the argument this anon>>718053056 is making. But there's a difference between helping someone down on their luck or going through a hard time and trying to become God and rewriting peoples souls like their Barbie dolls in a playhouse
Anonymous No.718053450 >>718053631
>>718053328
There isn't though.
Anonymous No.718053467 >>718053641
>>718052892
Bunch of science articles saying that our universe is shaped like a computer simulation and that our universe may be a hoax.
Anonymous No.718053482
>>718051156
Not that anon. While I understand what you mean the way you prhased it is not right.
>what's the point
That being your desire, you want to be as perfect as the world
Better question would be
>would we still need to grow in a perfect world if we are the world?
Anonymous No.718053512 >>718053574
So how does Maruki and the PT fit into the Great Game? The unconscious world was dying, or at least transforming into something it isn't, thanks to Maruki which is not a goal Philemon would support.
Anonymous No.718053574
>>718053512
Why do you think his persona was Nyarly’s dad and he summoned some of the EP guys for his palace?
Anonymous No.718053631
>>718053450
Then you didnt play the game
Anonymous No.718053641 >>718053752
>>718053467
eh

you'd think if there were beings that far ahead of us, it wouldn't be so easy to catch on
Anonymous No.718053684
>>718052680
Escapism bad is why you have a bunch of ding dongs saying that adults shouldn't be playing video games at all instead of saying it's okay in moderation. If they wanna argue "you should be as productive as possible" then we shouldn't be living in our somewhat comfy suburban life and be developing places like African countries into places that are thriving. They don't give a shit about that though because it would be uncomfortable for them to do so, so why should I compromise on my own comfort?
Anonymous No.718053752
>>718053641
If it's a simulation they're using our reality to experiment. Having us slowly realize we are living in one, being helpless against it, and monitoring our reactions to knowing about it could all be part of the experiment.
Anonymous No.718054284
>>718045696 (OP)
>Living in a happy world is bad because...we need 30 more hours of slop content in our 100h long game mkaaay?!
Anonymous No.718056483
>>718052784
But Mona can't become a human on his own, nor can Ryuji unfuck his leg. Turning down a miracle because "hurrr I didn't do it myself" is stupid. By that logic you should never accept any gifts or charity from other people.
Anonymous No.718056554 >>718062397
>>718045696 (OP)
For re-ACK
Anonymous No.718056635
>>718045696 (OP)
That's immoral. It's human right to be raped.
Anonymous No.718056639 >>718059648
>>718052784
If I pull the lever, all the people on the tracks will be magically untied and safe, and the train will pass without killing anyone.
>"HURRRRRRR WE DIDN'T ASK YOU TO CHOOSE FOR US"
Anonymous No.718057750 >>718057845
I am so fucking tired of literal double-digit IQ retards spamming this thread because they are incapable of understanding why some random jackass choosing who gets to be happiest is a problem.
>John: I would be happiest if I was married to Rose
>James: I would be happiest if I was married to Rose
>Maruki: Fuck you, James, John's happiness is better, so I'll brainwash you into being happy with someone else
>/v/: HE'S THE GOOD GUY
I hate all of you retards.
Anonymous No.718057845 >>718059110
>>718057750
It's like these retards can't even read into subtext... fuck, they can't read into text
>Hmm, this girl seems to be sad over the loss of the sister she was jealous of
>I know, I'll make her believe she is that sister!
This is the "infallible" man that you want in charge of your mind and reality?
Anonymous No.718059110
>>718057845
The entire point is that he's just a substitute Yaldy. He's trying to control everything under the guise of "fixing" it. But that just means he's the ultimate arbiter for what is best, and nobody else has any say in it. He eliminates the possibility of free choice. And he's just a dumbass psychologist, so he's probably even less qualified to decide what's "best" for everyone.
>but he gives everyone what they want
He literally can't, since some people would have mutually exclusive desires. Not everyone can be the lead in Les Mis on Broadway. Not everyone can be President or Prime Minister. Maruki is the one deciding these things now. He's just another fallible god trying to control the world. As it turns out, the whole point of the game is to stop that. I know, it's crazy, but it's there if you read into the subtext.
Anonymous No.718059534
>>718046746
Doesn't make sense because this bitch was still raped and just got better
Anonymous No.718059614
>>718046301
>Fail state is where Joker doesnt decide
>Maruki thinks since he might get stressed out he should just stay permanently asleep instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jyqhWA07gE

most kino and depressing ending out there
Anonymous No.718059648 >>718059924
>>718056639
His power isn't to literally re-write reality, his power is to alter perception. In this trolley problem the thing would still run over everybody, he'd just make it so that nobody remembers them/thinks they went off to live in a foreign country/w.e.
Maruki is not god, all he could do is make people lie to themselves and everyone else.
Anonymous No.718059924 >>718060107
>>718059648
You're not viewing things in the SMT/Persona lens of what defines "reality". Perception is a very real and powerful ability in this franchise that those with the potential can wield, and if someone with a strong enough will decides "this is how things are", then it is absolute until someone with a stronger will says otherwise.
That's why Joker's able to "break" Maruki's ideal lives for his friends and snap them back to what you view as "reality", because his will is stronger than that in those moments, and he forces them to come back to the reality that he's more familiar with over Maruki's idealistic reality.
This is also why Maruki concedes when Joker triumphs, because he's accepting that Joker's willpower is unfathomably stronger, and thus, he has no chance of ever making his reality the absolute when Joker wants the reality he knows to take precedent.
Yet likewise, if Joker's willpower falters, like choosing to accept Maruki's reality or getting the Deadline Ending, then he becomes just as susceptible as anyone else to Maruki's stronger will, and it's SO powerful that not even a godly being can go against it, hence Lavenza's inability to reach out to Joker and remind him of what he's fighting for.
Anonymous No.718060107
>>718059924
Also remember that in the Persona series that the unconscious reality is a tangible thing, especially in 5. Maruki is able to do what he does because he is indoctrinating people's shadows, and as a result the unconscious world is becoming much more influenced by his power, turning into an extension of his palace rather than his palace being a part of the unconscious reality.
Anonymous No.718061050
>>718047451
The PTs never brainwash any people though. They kick their shadows' ass and have them have a hard look at reality and judge themselves, rather than be absorbed in their own egos.
In a way they're just giving them a clear moment of self-reflection. It's the persons themselves which at that time realize what enormous dickheads they've been.
Anonymous No.718061273
>>718052245
Says who?
Maruki rewrites reality, so he is for intents and purposes God.
If he's the one making you do it, then God is on board with it - i.e. it's not sinful.
(Besides- committing a sin requires that you actually have a conscious choice. Which you don't if Maruki just reprograms you to his whims.)
Anonymous No.718061934
>>718045696 (OP)
Based Maruki, granting the girl a blessing to experience losing her virginity twice in her life.
Anonymous No.718062050 >>718062116 >>718062401
>>718046301
>I've never read Brave New World: The Post
Anonymous No.718062116
>>718062050
And? Why would I?
Anonymous No.718062257
>>718050194
Yes but that would require actually paying attention to the game
Anonymous No.718062397
>>718056554
for real
Anonymous No.718062401
>>718062050
BNW is the best possible outcome of the inevitable dystopian shithole humanity has awaiting it.
Anonymous No.718062726 >>718063323
>>718046301
It's mind rape.
maruki is a normal dude even after getting his powers, and it's not possible for him to curate and tailor perfect realities for everyone. It starts to slip and he has to set up fully automated "clinics" in mementos/conciousness where people are filtered in and told what to do.
It's hard to notice firsthand because he very specifically tailors the reality of all the phantom thieves to their liking through their councilling sessions, but there's tons of background chatter, dialogues etc as the plot progresses that show he cannot provide the same level as care to everyone.
You have examples like a boyfriend being mindraped into not wanting to study abroad for a dream career by a girlfriend wishing he would stay, A man giving up on a love because another man wished she would love him, people just accepting and being happy with their dead end wagie job instead of striving for more.

Dreams and wishes are incompatible once the sample size increases past a few dozen. There will be thousands of people who want to become big football stars, only a few get that wish granted, the rest have that desire removed.
Joker himself gets mindraped in the ending by Sojiro wished he'd stay with them. Joker, who always wanted to go back to his parents even if he had full choice of not doing so now never wants to leave his new adopted family.
Everything is severely limited by Maruki's ability to process everything and the cracks are already showing.
Anonymous No.718063025 >>718063153
>Noooo you cant bring back to life my mom, living a neet with panic attact all my childhood gets me stronger
Anonymous No.718063153
>>718063025
>bring back to life my mom
Anonymous No.718063216
>>718046301
If you are a cuck who wants someone else to run your life then I can see how you wouldn't be
Anonymous No.718063282
You can't put the world in a bottle, you creat a species that can't figure out or progress on its own, and it becomes dependent
Anonymous No.718063323 >>718063416
>>718062726
Instead of shoving everyone wishes and dreams into a single world he should have created the multiverse with each reality pander to each individual
Anonymous No.718063416
>>718063323
Isn't this like one of the routes in Nocturne?
Anonymous No.718063528
>"Achkshually it is just brain washing, she is still raped :^)"
What are these retards trying to achieve? It is very obviously reality warping unless you believe Futaba's mother coming back from the dead is some mass delusion despite the fact that she is clearly corporeal.