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Anonymous No.718051594 [Report] >>718051678 >>718051835 >>718053905 >>718054694 >>718054943 >>718055121 >>718055220 >>718055256 >>718055549 >>718059542 >>718059547 >>718060010 >>718060325 >>718060479 >>718066604 >>718071460 >>718083561 >>718083935 >>718084423 >>718085634
Echoes of the End
play her game RIGHT NOW
Anonymous No.718051678 [Report] >>718051794
>>718051594 (OP)
Didn't your last advertisement thread go straight to page 10?
Anonymous No.718051794 [Report] >>718053725 >>718066604
>>718051678
Yeah and it still got more traction than your bait threads, lmao. Cope harder.
Anonymous No.718051835 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
Why? It doesn't look very good.
Anonymous No.718053565 [Report] >>718060479 >>718060541
Anonymous No.718053692 [Report]
I can promise you that I will NEVER play this shit and that I will NEVER buy or play a game with a female nigger or shitskin protagonist. That is my guarantee to you.
Anonymous No.718053725 [Report]
>>718051794
Unlike the game. It's already peaked at 558 2 days ago. Now it's down to 95 right now.
Anonymous No.718053848 [Report]
Purchase advertisement
Anonymous No.718053905 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
Haven't even heard about this. Had to look it up and it's even more pathetic than I thought.
Now I know why you can't even pay for an ad
Anonymous No.718054694 [Report] >>718057154
>>718051594 (OP)
>Brown
>Not the sweet chocolate kind of brown
>Not wearing chainmail bikini
Enjoy your flop
Anonymous No.718054921 [Report]
It's alright
Anonymous No.718054943 [Report] >>718054992 >>718055062 >>718056515 >>718084553
>>718051594 (OP)
Anonymous No.718054992 [Report]
>>718054943
No, I don't think I'll do any of those things.
Anonymous No.718055062 [Report]
>>718054943
>how do you want your game?
>like I want my kids
>say no more
Anonymous No.718055121 [Report] >>718055418
>>718051594 (OP)
is this a sonylike or more rollslop?
Anonymous No.718055220 [Report] >>718055256 >>718055348
>>718051594 (OP)
>that mug
They really hate the idea of selling units, dont they
Anonymous No.718055256 [Report] >>718055442
>>718055220
its getting... better? not good, but better.

>>718051594 (OP)
post gameplay then
Anonymous No.718055348 [Report] >>718056202 >>718056593 >>718056878 >>718070574 >>718082829
>>718055220
Probably just another case of activist developers and out of touch executives thinking that pic related are a relevant video game buyer demographic.
Anonymous No.718055418 [Report]
>>718055121
another walky-talky dad of boy clone.
Anonymous No.718055442 [Report]
>>718055256
>post gameplay then
You
fucking
know
how
it
plays.
Anonymous No.718055549 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
Thats a man
Anonymous No.718055913 [Report] >>718056009
>black mc nobody wanted
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUSTA

It's funny seeing all this shit that started development in 2020 finally come out.
Anonymous No.718056009 [Report]
>>718055913
mulatto woman on the cover is the least of the game's problems although that's certainly related
Anonymous No.718056202 [Report] >>718056330 >>718059928 >>718082829
>>718055348
If identifying with the characters who look like you is "really important", then what is the point of making them nigger women?
Anonymous No.718056330 [Report] >>718059561 >>718060110 >>718060256 >>718066779
>>718056202
The MBA brained "muh expansion, muh untapped demographics" bullshit, where executives think that the existing customers are locked down forever and marketing must always laser focus on audiences who are not currently buying the product.
Anonymous No.718056515 [Report] >>718059430 >>718087361
>>718054943
>Boring generic title with boring generic MC with boring generic description of a boring generic fantasy story and boring generic gameplay
Honestly quite impressive they could make every single thing as unremarkable as possible.
Anonymous No.718056593 [Report] >>718059461 >>718063746 >>718083671
>>718055348
fucking women, always ruining everything
Anonymous No.718056878 [Report] >>718066263
>>718055348
>i just make myself
>you need characters to look up to
>the character must look like me
>using video game characters for self worth
How did it come to this???
Anonymous No.718057154 [Report]
>>718054694
based
Anonymous No.718059430 [Report]
>>718056515
That alone would probably doom the game even if it had more appealing MC.
Anonymous No.718059461 [Report] >>718060213
>>718056593
I like the Optimus Prime and Shrek one because we all know its true.
Anonymous No.718059541 [Report]
Anonymous No.718059542 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
But I'm playing Shadow Labyrinth. And Dice Gambit releases in just a few hours.
Anonymous No.718059547 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
No
Anonymous No.718059561 [Report] >>718059610 >>718059886 >>718060110 >>718071234 >>718083074
>>718056330
But who is lying to them and saying sheboons play games, and why? Whoever is responsible will just be caught in the necessary firing rounds they've themselves caused by destroying the industry by pandering to no one.
Anonymous No.718059610 [Report] >>718059886 >>718083074
>>718059561
Anon, they're consultant firms. Not just SBI but even actual marketing consultants and shit. That means they came in to ruin the game 5 years ago and aren't actually employees of the company, so they can't be fired for making it woke shit
Anonymous No.718059886 [Report]
>>718059561
Those poor schmucks still think that western meritocracy is real and working as intended, and believe that consultants >>718059610 mentioned know what they are talking about because they got college degrees and connections.
Anonymous No.718059928 [Report] >>718083156
>>718056202
I always love spinning that back around on them
>Deathloop bombs
>”I didn’t buy it because representation is important and I didn’t feel represented.”
>NOO IT DOESNT APPLY TO YOU, CHUD, YOU HAVE TO PLAY AS A BLACK!!!
they will literally tell you representation it’s important and then scream at you for wanting to be represented.
Anonymous No.718060010 [Report] >>718060184 >>718060523 >>718066872 >>718068012 >>718075607
>>718051594 (OP)
>new team
>in europe
>their first game
>about the same size as sandfall interactive
Wow, it's like Expedition 33 minus the talent ant passion.
Anonymous No.718060110 [Report] >>718060256
>>718059561
they're not lying and saying sheboons play games, their strategy is actually even dumber.
>white men play games
>black women don't
>therefore we must cater to black women
as >>718056330
mentioned, it's completely predicated on the mindset of "white gamers are pathetic chuds who will buy it anyways", despite there being reams of evidence showing this to not be the case
Anonymous No.718060184 [Report] >>718083226
>>718060010
who needs talent or passion when you can just get all of the funding you need by putting a negress on the front cover?
Anonymous No.718060213 [Report]
>>718059461
I demand context.
Anonymous No.718060256 [Report]
>>718060110
>>718056330
You're completely ignoring the political ideology behind that. I know that assuming that everybody is retarded except for you is nice for your ego, because that's totally what I'm doing right now but you should know that if you were actually that smart you'd be rich I don't like that one either.
Anonymous No.718060285 [Report] >>718083295
You're trying really hard to force this to be a thing, huh?
Anonymous No.718060325 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
i have DEI fatigue
Anonymous No.718060446 [Report] >>718060861 >>718067124 >>718083443
it played a role, but behind all of the political ideology are a bunch of jews who were convinced that the SJW shit would make them money in the long run. they were wrong, which is why we are seeing the SJW political ideology wane among people with actual money (corporations dismantling DEI, investment firms moving away from ESG, etc.).
Anonymous No.718060479 [Report]
>>718053565
>>718051594 (OP)
the mc feels like nigger mc with white skin retexture vibes
Anonymous No.718060523 [Report] >>718060818
>>718060010
What does loving ants have to do with developing games? Don't you usually want the bugs OUT of your Games?
Anonymous No.718060541 [Report]
>>718053565
Underrated
Anonymous No.718060728 [Report] >>718060815 >>718061551 >>718063318 >>718063484 >>718068607 >>718070574 >>718088310 >>718090207
>surely this time my third person actionslop featuring a brown female protagonist in a fantasy setting will be a success!
Anonymous No.718060815 [Report] >>718061551 >>718073617
>>718060728
>Banishers Ghost of New Eden
i got this in a humble bundle and didn't even redeem it because i dont want it in my steam library
Anonymous No.718060818 [Report]
>>718060523
Anonymous No.718060861 [Report] >>718060980 >>718061320
>>718060446
>corporations dismantling DEI,
A lot of them are just changing the name of the sign, don't let them trick you.
Anonymous No.718060980 [Report] >>718083654
>>718060861
oh i'm well aware that's what they're doing with hiring and all that. but have you watched a football game recently? all of the beer and military recruitment ads are back to "rah rah 'murica we love white men".
games just take years to develop so a lot of these negress games were in post-production by the time the "start pandering to whites again" memos went out.
Anonymous No.718061320 [Report]
>>718060861
They can try, but the pattern won't change.
Anonymous No.718061551 [Report] >>718073617 >>718083654
>>718060728
>>718060815
>Banishers Ghost of New Eden
That one is weird because all the others were universally panned but that one seems to have better reviews and better sales
I wonder if its a step above the others or is just an effect of being from the studio with the teen magic lesbian games that gave it a push
Anonymous No.718062063 [Report]
>UE5 generic look to everything
>terrible performance that has demanded 2 patches in as many days since release with another one coming tomorrow
>walking simulator with puzzles
>the little combat it has is beyond terrible, worse than Senua's to put it on perspective
>MC actress is "half icelandic", her mother got blacked while on a trip on Germany. Why bother using a fully Icelandic actress for your Icelandic folklore inspired game.
>YOU COULD HAVE PUT A BJORK AYLMAO LOOKING SAMI WOMAN AS THE MC
>You already know this is a project funded in part by the European taxpayers. Like we saw dustborn with the CEO of the studio claiming it was a success with its 83 concurrent players, until you find out it was paid for by with European grants.
>to the surprise of absolutely nofuckingbody 550 max players
I just want good games man
Anonymous No.718063318 [Report]
>>718060728
Forspoken is probably the best game on the list
Fucking grim
Anonymous No.718063484 [Report] >>718063585 >>718063606 >>718063748 >>718065615 >>718086548
>>718060728
Unknown 9 was really special kind of delusional.
Anonymous No.718063585 [Report] >>718064762 >>718070574
>>718063484
I don't understand. They did everything right.
Anonymous No.718063606 [Report] >>718063790 >>718063803
>>718063484
why does it say unknown 9 when there's only 8 unknown entries there
Anonymous No.718063746 [Report]
>>718056593
>he thinks negro and brown dudes dont screech about le representation all day
What kind of cuck made this shitty ass memes. Negro men bitch about that shit constantly and even go and say that characters are "black coded".
Anonymous No.718063748 [Report]
>>718063484
Bandai Namco is so fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.718063790 [Report] >>718064016
>>718063606
The 9th is the unknown one, silly!
Anonymous No.718063803 [Report] >>718064016
>>718063606
The 9th one will stay unknown
Anonymous No.718064016 [Report]
>>718063790
>>718063803
Oh right, my bad
Anonymous No.718064762 [Report] >>718065285
>>718063585
>”representation is important”
>brag about not representing most gamers
truly a great wonder why this failed
Anonymous No.718065285 [Report] >>718065583 >>718084137
>>718064762
Its hilarious how passive aggressive hostility from leftists could be insanely easily avoided. All they had to do was going "we need more non whites in games" instead of "we need less whites". Results in same thing but the way its communicated makes massive difference.
Anonymous No.718065583 [Report]
>>718065285
I can't dig it up with quick googling and I'm feeling lazy, but it was researched in UK that leftists are generally more likely then right wingers to believe that their views represent the majority of population.
Anonymous No.718065615 [Report]
>>718063484
Talk about selling the pelt before you hunt the bear
Anonymous No.718066263 [Report] >>718066336
>>718056878
it's a sign of the overall trend of people not being able to discern fiction from reality
Anonymous No.718066336 [Report] >>718084317
>>718066263
The "portrayal in fiction = endorsement in real life" mindset is the true political horseshoe that applies to both conservative church moms and feminist cat ladies.
Anonymous No.718066604 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
I am not interested in the adventures of fish-eyed mystery meat mutt and her nigger sidekick.
>>718051794
Given that you own up to being a shill, I won't tell you to buy an ad. Buy rope instead.
Anonymous No.718066779 [Report]
>>718056330
Eventually you'll realize that marketing isn't trying to sell you shit games, but that shit games sell you marketing, i.e.: pad traffic and engagement -- they are little more than onboarding schemes to consultation rackets, e-grifting parasocialites and digitial daycare-botfarms.
The industry has been captured by PR gremlins. These PR gremlins cultivate an unsustainable economy of lies: they sell problems, rent out solutions (marginally smaller problems) and deceive everyone -- shareholders, developers, customers and players. They don't care about the quality or reception of the product, they don't care about what you believe, love or hate and they don't care to convince you of anything. The more controversy, the better for them.

Their final goal however is to distract and placate you, while high finance (read: their owners, banksters) turns your passions and lifetime into vacuous commodities.

>be PR gremlins
>gaslight publisher into whipping developers into frenzy to create super-slop
>gobble up the majority of the "development" budget, recommend hiring nepotists
>proliferate more slop to e-grifting parasocialites to fan the flames; hype a product you know will fail miserably, gaslight customers and shareholders with predatory marketing
>reinvest a fraction of your hyper-bloated budget and buy copies through subsidaries and at a discount to gaslight everyone some more, after padding stats shortterm refund to ruin them longterm
>simultaneousely shill for and against the product to maximize controversy and thus traffic, engagement and demand of your service and that of your buisness partners, such as consultation rackets
>eventually come out of it being the sole profiteer, blaming everyone else

In other words: if you're a shareholder of a publisher or developer studio instead of an investor to a marketing agency, then you are a barely functional lobotomite.
Anonymous No.718066872 [Report] >>718067421 >>718070852 >>718084317
>>718060010
>Cancer Obvious: Excrement 33
Funded by interest free loans, goy.
Anonymous No.718067124 [Report]
>>718060446
>still dorsn't undetstand that worthless magic paper is willed into existence in the past (debt), present (credit) and future (interest) in whatever volumes necessary to prop Clownworld's usurious, predatory system of incentives and bully debtcattle and shills into submission
Anon, I... social misengineering and botched eugenics aren't shoved down your throat to generate profits, profits are generated to shove social misengineering and botched eugenics down your throat.
Anonymous No.718067421 [Report] >>718067996
>>718066872
>schizo nonsense
Could have been funded with 25% interest per annum loans from the local crime syndicate and still been massively profitable.
Anonymous No.718067996 [Report]
>>718067421
>still been massively profitable
These loans also funded the six weeks of incessant astroturfing. Judging by the script used they've hired the same shillfarm that handled AssCancer:Shilldom and KCD2, which, too, have become completely irrelevant once their six weeks of astroturfing stopped.
Anonymous No.718068012 [Report] >>718070852
>>718060010
>Expedition 33 minus the talent
That would be a negative
Anonymous No.718068607 [Report]
>>718060728
Maybe letting fringe political activist decide the esthetic ideals of a generation of games wasn't a good idea?
Hell maybe it's a problem when the entire game dev industry is so creatively bankrupt and incestuous they all make the same game at the same time?
Anonymous No.718070574 [Report]
>>718055348
strategic butt coverage
unironically referencing that video where Anita makes it a conspiracy that she can't see Batmans ass

>>718060728
you can add south of mid to that list

>>718063585
>Unknown 9
more like
>Unknown 6
Anonymous No.718070852 [Report] >>718073294
>>718066872
>>718068012
will you melanated faggots finally rope yourselves when it wins goty? or will you cling to life until 2030 when you see it topping "best of the 2020s" lists?
Anonymous No.718071234 [Report]
>>718059561
It isn't even lies really, boomers were just more likely to stick with a product they like even after it turns shit because finding new similar products was hard and you actually had to go out of your way to try the products yourself instead of having an eceleb tell you what's good and what isn't
Anonymous No.718071460 [Report] >>718084557
>>718051594 (OP)
I haven't even heard of this game before the this thread. What even is it and who's making it?
The cover looks so painfully generic I'm guessing semi-open world RPG with Bamham/FF15 style combat.
Anonymous No.718071964 [Report]
not in a million years
Anonymous No.718073294 [Report] >>718073525 >>718075669
>>718070852
>when it wins goty
It's [current year] and you, niggercattle, still din't understand that "awards" are paid-for advertisment? How is that possible? Good lord, your parents didn't drop you, they must have slammed you into ground.
Anonymous No.718073525 [Report] >>718073786 >>718074931
>>718073294
He's baiting but the "this game won GOTY" thing is still way too common among retards
There's hundreds of publications giving out GOTY awards
Anonymous No.718073617 [Report] >>718084557
>>718060815
>>718061551
Banishers is from the devs of Vampyr, that was a decent game with an interesting story, in an underused setting and bloodborne style combat.
I havent played Banishers, but i would at least give them the benefit of the doubt because of Vampyr
Anonymous No.718073786 [Report]
>>718073525
>He's baiting
I envy your optimism. At some point you have to come to terms with the fact that these "people" really exist. I don't understand how you could have possibly phased out their existence during the 2020-2024 telemarketing mystery goo injection gayop.
Anonymous No.718074931 [Report]
>>718073525
Normalfags did kinda agree on one single GOTY award and ignore all the others, though.
Anonymous No.718075607 [Report] >>718076718 >>718085087
>>718060010
Myrkur Games is much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0gVv5mQBjg
Anonymous No.718075669 [Report] >>718077094
>>718073294
Cope and seethe faggot, E33 will win goty. only an individual with an excess of melanin could possibly think otherwise.
Anonymous No.718076718 [Report] >>718077186 >>718077269 >>718091130
>>718075607
the faces of the people who made their fictional iceland a fucking africa, lmao
Anonymous No.718077094 [Report]
>>718075669
You should be euthanized for your own sake.
Anonymous No.718077186 [Report]
>>718076718
look at the fucking estrogen on their faces
Anonymous No.718077269 [Report] >>718077629 >>718084489 >>718084724
>>718076718
I feel a little bad for them.
Maybe in 2019 the weren't even aware that their game will be a drop in the ocean of sameish looking UE games and the only thing that stands out from their game is a brown woman and this isn't a boon.
Anonymous No.718077629 [Report]
>>718077269
>I feel a little bad for them.
I don't. propagandists face the fucking wall.
Anonymous No.718078060 [Report]
terminally online and never even heard of this, talk about cooked
Anonymous No.718080749 [Report]
Anonymous No.718081740 [Report] >>718082178
Decent combat, fun puzzles and good boss fights. But the main character is brown and no one will know. Pirated it.
Anonymous No.718082178 [Report]
>>718081740
>Decent combat, fun puzzles and good boss fights
marketeer post. shit combat, shit puzzles and shit boss fights. don't fall for it
Anonymous No.718082829 [Report]
>>718055348
I think the best part of this is when the devs got metrics on the characters created, and they got MAD that players, of all races, in all countries were going away from the black default and making a brown haired white dude straight from the PS3 era.

>>718056202
From the SBI presentation? You're racist for asking that, and that you need to learn to let other people shine, or they go to HR. I'm not even kidding.
Anonymous No.718083074 [Report]
>>718059561
>Whoever is responsible will just be caught in the necessary firing rounds they've themselves caused by destroying the industry by pandering to no one.

They haven't. And they probably won't. They've embedded themselves on the corporate side so hard. Ubisoft would rather kill itself than change. Same with Blizzard. And I suspect sony would too.

>>718059610
It's why SBI's strategy was to make sure to capture as much of HR as possible.
Anonymous No.718083156 [Report]
>>718059928
I learned spanish, and am picking up some Swahilli JUST so I can go harder after fucks who try that.
Anonymous No.718083226 [Report]
>>718060184
And then evade the fact that your shit doesn't sell, by going EGS or apple store or subscription service!
Anonymous No.718083295 [Report]
>>718060285
This seems very natural for anon. It's no more forced than black icelandic people in games to begin with.
Anonymous No.718083443 [Report]
>>718060446
>t behind all of the political ideology are a bunch of jews who were convinced that the SJW shit would make them money in the long run. they were wrong,

No. Fink made a PROFIT on this shit. He OWNED the DEI certification companies and had them ready before he pushed these requirements. And he was using CLIENT money to invest, so dropping a concord or 6 in losses doesn't cost him anything. On the contrary, he makes most of his money on volatility, so he MAKES money on ubisoft fucking up.
Anonymous No.718083561 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
I bought this game instead. It's the same thing but like 1/3rd the price.
Generic UE5 action RPG slop
Anonymous No.718083654 [Report]
>>718060980
Oh shit. We're going to war again, aren't we.

>>718061551
Had some eurojank charm and lower expectations. Forespoken was expected to be full Square Enix power. Unknown 9 was expected to launch a franchise.

I'd put it better than the others in it's weight class, but keep in mind that some of those games have 10 times the budget of others. My choice of that pack is actually Forespoken.
Anonymous No.718083671 [Report]
>>718056593
Fixed.
Anonymous No.718083935 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
It's amazing how even that little bit of purple now ANNIHILATES my possible interest in the game.
Anonymous No.718084137 [Report]
>>718065285
Have you seen the GDC presentations? They aren't passive aggressive. Sure, they could have avoided conflict if they weren't German Nurenberg teir racists, but that's who they are and what they want.

When that one person, not belair, but the other SBI person says that they want black command representation at every level making managerial decisions on every video game company in the world and at every level of development, including and especially Japanese ones, I'm inclined to believe them.
Anonymous No.718084317 [Report]
>>718066336
...and some of the radical centrists now. We have the full spectrum.

>>718066872
So was this one anon. The difference in game quality is undeniable. I really don't care that much how privliged the creators are.
Anonymous No.718084423 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
>nigger on the cover
yeah its skipping time
Anonymous No.718084489 [Report]
>>718077269
Their game wouldn't look like it does if they weren't soulless husks shambling towards imaginary goodboy points.
Anonymous No.718084553 [Report]
>>718054943
Sounds like basic bitch sjw slop. I'll pass.

Also OP, kill yourself
Anonymous No.718084557 [Report]
>>718071460
Haven't played. Looks like generic UE5. Definitely mocapped., maybe high AA budget?

Made by icelandic people. Yes. They found the ohnly black icelandic actress in the entire country.

>>718073617
It's one full step worse than Vampyr. Imagine if the life is strange purple hairs got to make a Vampyr that was as "modern sensibility" as their hearts desired.

I'd put it in the play it once and forget about it, but quite skippable as well.
Anonymous No.718084724 [Report]
>>718077269
I don't. If they have any actual drive or talent, they'll learn from this spanking in the marketplace and move forward. Iceland hits WAY above it's weight class in the video game industry.
Anonymous No.718085087 [Report]
>>718075607
crazy how much they are the soulless mirror version of the frenchfags
Anonymous No.718085634 [Report]
>>718051594 (OP)
>not even mortismal touched that turd
Oof
Anonymous No.718086548 [Report] >>718086692
>>718063484
It amazes me that Unknown 9 exists.
Bandai wanted a multi media franchise. They wanted books, TV shows, anime, games, etc

They had this. They did this exact same thing with .hack like 15 years ago and people have been begging for a resurrection.
Anonymous No.718086692 [Report]
>>718086548
I remember when SAO took off and Bandai didn't capitalize on the craze with .hack at all.
Still even now with the isekai wave going on, nothing from .hack.

They might be the dumbest company on the planet and I'm aware Sony and Microsoft exist.
Anonymous No.718087361 [Report]
>>718056515
they would be nothing without the kosher funding.
Anonymous No.718088310 [Report] >>718089597
>>718060728
I bet those where funded by taxpayers too.
Anonymous No.718089597 [Report]
>>718088310

Dustborn: Yes. Nordic gov grants. EU grants.
Banishers: Yes. Canadian gov. EU.
Flintlock: Yes. Australian goverment. EU money via kepler.
Echos of the End: Icelandic, probably nordic and indirect EU funds as well. Haven't verfied.
Relooted: Yes. From Sweden.
South of Midnight: Yes. Canadian goverment.

Unknown 9 and Forspoken: Yes, but mostly indirect. and their budgets are fuckhuge.

For the bigs, they tend to value tax breaks more than direct funding.
Anonymous No.718090207 [Report] >>718090651
>>718060728
Oh man, it doesn't just stop at action games. Pic related killed it's studio too
Anonymous No.718090651 [Report]
>>718090207
SBI's track record at killing companies is absolutely amazing. They're stronger than EA at taht.
Anonymous No.718091130 [Report]
>>718076718
At what point do we start also blaming male feminists for this shit? All these dudes couldn't just find a white icelandic woman?