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Anonymous No.718067789 >>718068172 >>718068201 >>718068594 >>718068808 >>718069027 >>718069613 >>718069876 >>718070239 >>718070312 >>718070409 >>718070431 >>718071138 >>718071238 >>718071445 >>718072335 >>718072401 >>718072469 >>718072608 >>718073739 >>718073828 >>718073937 >>718074607 >>718080424 >>718081471 >>718081614 >>718081737 >>718082825 >>718083419 >>718085057 >>718085790 >>718088031 >>718088467 >>718090213 >>718091929 >>718109679 >>718109828 >>718111138 >>718111912
Bandai accidentally leaks Tales of Xillia remaster announcement in youtube thumbnail.

Are you excited?
Anonymous No.718068047 >>718068376 >>718068405 >>718068485 >>718069849 >>718071095 >>718071339 >>718071434 >>718071804 >>718074367 >>718074912 >>718091858 >>718095124
No.
Just fucking give us 60FPS Symphonia already.
Anonymous No.718068172 >>718068405
>>718067789 (OP)
>Tales of Pedophilia: Remolested
Ew no thanks
Anonymous No.718068201 >>718079406
>>718067789 (OP)
It was leaked a long time ago. They also trademarked Destiny and were teasing something with Abyss
Anonymous No.718068296 >>718068405 >>718078542
Xillia was dogshit.
Anonymous No.718068376 >>718068851 >>718083383 >>718099203 >>718100783
>>718068047
>60FPS Symphonia
they would already if they could
clearly something went wrong, retards at bamco probably lost the original GC code and had to use the broken PS2 port as the base for every other release
Anonymous No.718068405 >>718076949
>>718068047
>>718068172
>>718068296
I see the doomposting already started kek
Anonymous No.718068426
lmao this series is so dead.
Anonymous No.718068485
>>718068047
Never.
They had over ten years and half a dozen ports to do it,and they didn't.
Anonymous No.718068594
>>718067789 (OP)
YEA
BOIIIIIIIIIII
Anonymous No.718068654 >>718068752 >>718068808 >>718069668 >>718069908 >>718070404 >>718071635 >>718071721 >>718077004 >>718077394 >>718078437 >>718080246 >>718085356 >>718091291 >>718096816
is this shit any good?
Anonymous No.718068752
>>718068654
Xillia 2 has the best combat system in the series. Xillia 1 isn't bad either.
Anonymous No.718068808
>>718067789 (OP)
>Are you excited?
What a waste, remastering PS3 and 360 games when they've barely improved anything since then. They could remaster older better shit but then they wouldn't get their quick easy cashgrab by just upscaling some textures.

>>718068654
mid
Anonymous No.718068851 >>718068917
Surely, they won't try to make people buy both of them, it'll be a two-pack, right

>>718068376
They just need to remake it.
Anonymous No.718068917 >>718071968
>>718068851
They just need to let Symphonia die. It's terribly overrated.
Anonymous No.718069027 >>718069140
>>718067789 (OP)
I wanted Abyss. But this is okay I guess.
Anonymous No.718069140
>>718069027
It was a toss up between abyss and the xillias. Guaranteed Abyss is next.
Anonymous No.718069262 >>718069751
This is the best news I've heard all month.
Anonymous No.718069369
2B's butt was considered sexy in its day. but Maelle's is much bigger and sexy.

butt inflation is real.
Anonymous No.718069593 >>718069796
there's been no rumors of a new game. what's going on
Anonymous No.718069613
>>718067789 (OP)
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABYSS
FUCK DAMMIT
Anonymous No.718069668
>>718068654
yes.
Anonymous No.718069751
>>718069262
We already know this like 2 years ago
Anonymous No.718069796
>>718069593
Dead franchise (mostly because Harada doesn't want to make a version on Switch 2).
Anonymous No.718069849
>>718068047
They did 22 years ago. Stop bothering with inferior versions. If you don't have a nintendo shitcube or a wii then dolphin will run it on literally any electronic device you own.
Anonymous No.718069876 >>718071180 >>718072014
>>718067789 (OP)
Zestiria Remake when ??
Anonymous No.718069908
>>718068654
it's the most okay game ever
Anonymous No.718070239
>>718067789 (OP)
>Bandai accidentally leaks Tales of Xillia remaster
We already knew it was coming since last year.
https://www.jrc.cz/Tales-of-Xillia-Remastered-PS5--p157934#type=popis
https://www.smarty.cz/Tales-of-Xillia-Remastered-Xbox-One-Xbox-Series-X--4p140492
https://www.brloh.sk/tales-of-xillia-remastered-switch-p157932
Anonymous No.718070312 >>718070443
>>718067789 (OP)
ok cool sure but I've played xillia

are they gonna release some new games at some point? they used to make a game or two every year
Anonymous No.718070385 >>718077234
Xillia 3 aka proper Elympios game when?
Anonymous No.718070397 >>718070456
what about the good xillia game?
Anonymous No.718070404 >>718084463
>>718068654
It's enjoyable enough if you like a generic JRPG.
I had fun with it myself exactly because of that.
Anonymous No.718070409 >>718071858
>>718067789 (OP)
are bamco not capable of getting new games made with any of their IP anymore? is it just over, they're dead?
Anonymous No.718070431
>>718067789 (OP)
just 1? surely you'd do a double pack
Anonymous No.718070443
>>718070312
If they keep going at this pace. Its safe to say this series is dead and they releasing a port every 2 years to make the series artificially alive. Not even Final Fantasy is this slow
Anonymous No.718070456 >>718070876
>>718070397
If this isn't a 2-in-1 remaster, then it stands to reason that Xillia 2 will come a year or 2 later if the Xillia 1 remaster sells well enough.
Anonymous No.718070876
>>718070456
I wish it was a remaster that kept the original vision and merged both games.
Anonymous No.718071095
>>718068047
wait for the symphonia remake with 120 fps and rtx instead
Anonymous No.718071138
>>718067789 (OP)
>not Abyss
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEED I hope it's both Xillias
Anonymous No.718071180 >>718074154
>>718069876
Anonymous No.718071238
>>718067789 (OP)
>they've changed the text font
Eww, what the fuck
Anonymous No.718071339
>>718068047
And people wonder why I hate playstation. Their mere existence makes games on other systems worse.
Anonymous No.718071434
>>718068047
Wait for a decomp, until then, Lossless scaling on the GC version.
Anonymous No.718071445
>>718067789 (OP)
It's pretty dire when even a low budget shovelware jrpg franshise likes tales can not release any new games in a decade and instead just barely shit out another rerelease every 5.
I miss NAMCO
FUCK BANDAI
Anonymous No.718071535
i thought the director said ToA remaster's coming next
Anonymous No.718071635 >>718071668 >>718071931 >>718074882 >>718077065
>>718068654
Better than Zestria/10
There are no good 3D tales of game though
Anonymous No.718071668 >>718074882
>>718071635
>There are no good 3D tales of game though
xillia 2 rapes your favourite video game to death, stupid kid
Anonymous No.718071721
>>718068654
>is this shit any good?
lol
LMAO
Anonymous No.718071765 >>718071889 >>718071961 >>718073865
Wow another remaster I literally stood up and clapped when I heard the news
Anonymous No.718071804
>>718068047
Symphonia is an overrated piece of crap. Even Eternia had better combat.
Anonymous No.718071858
>>718070409
They had uhhh Unknon 9? And Harada's "BIGGEST MOST EXPENSIVE GAME BAMCO HAS EVER MADE" project.
Anonymous No.718071889 >>718072232
>>718071765
You should sit back down. The only thing holding your incontinence in check is that giant dildo you're sitting on.
Anonymous No.718071931 >>718072064 >>718074965 >>718079254
>>718071635
Zestiria is good though :)
Rent free
Anonymous No.718071961
>>718071765
Anonymous No.718071968
>>718068917
It's the best they've done.
Anonymous No.718072003 >>718074308
>1 without 2
wtf
Anonymous No.718072014 >>718072097
>>718069876
Hopefully never, fuck that game
Anonymous No.718072064 >>718072097 >>718074741
>>718071931
>Zestiria is good though :)
If you need an anime adaptation to try to fix the clusterfuck that was your game's story then it really isn't good thougheverbeit :'(
Cope, seethe, mald.
Anonymous No.718072072 >>718073250
The first game's plot is retarded and lazy.

>FIND THE LASER THING! IT'S HERE, NOW IT'S OVER THERE, NOW IT'S OVER THERE, NOW IT'S OVER THERE, etc
Anonymous No.718072097 >>718078596
>>718072014
>>718072064

Did that game killed your family or something ?
Anonymous No.718072232
>>718071889
SLUUUUUUUUURP
Anonymous No.718072335
>>718067789 (OP)
Czechbro, pls
Anonymous No.718072401 >>718072445 >>718072527 >>718072617 >>718073060
>>718067789 (OP)
>8 console main games released from 1995 to 2005
>10 console main games released from 2006 to 2016
>1 console main game released from 2017 to 2025
This franchise is dead and somehow died with one of its best selling entries as its last game.
Anonymous No.718072445
>>718072401
Harada is in charge.
Anonymous No.718072469
>>718067789 (OP)
I still want to find out if it's 1+2 or they are going with the megajew route.
These games aren't hard to emulate anyway.
Anonymous No.718072527
>>718072401
Covid Sales + Inflation + No competition (Except SMT) = Good Sales
Anonymous No.718072567 >>718073435
Sharing is caring!
Anonymous No.718072608 >>718072743
>>718067789 (OP)
Literally who?
Anonymous No.718072617
>>718072401
>This franchise is dead and somehow died with one of its best selling entries as its last game.
Its best selling game which, ironically enough, barely felt like an entry of this series.
Anonymous No.718072743 >>718073538
>>718072608
>Literally who?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandai_Namco_Entertainment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_(video_game_series)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Xillia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remaster#Video_games
Let me know if you need me to take you to a page to learn about Youtube too.
Anonymous No.718072936 >>718073107 >>718073528 >>718073659 >>718073740 >>718073809 >>718074381 >>718087849
literally 1 guy made most of tales game
almost nothing after him
Anonymous No.718072940 >>718073435
Anonymous No.718073060 >>718073275 >>718092554
>>718072401
idk what happened, they made a good amount of games in the PS3 era where some franchises slowed down. But since the PS4, they've not made shit.
Anonymous No.718073107
>>718072936
>Symphonia Dawn of a new World but not Symphonia
Explains a lot actually.
Anonymous No.718073250
>>718072072
Yea
Its a tales game bro
Anonymous No.718073275 >>718100740
>>718073060
my guess is namco spent the money that would have been invested on a jrpg into multiple failed gacha attempts. They got burned pretty badly with crestoria and luminaria(?) back after back
Anonymous No.718073435 >>718075773
>>718072940
>>718072567
Reminder Elize is the horniest character in the group
Anonymous No.718073470 >>718073601 >>718073798 >>718078029
I absolutely despised eveyrthing about berseria. Completely unlikeable characters and gameplay. Will zestiria and arise be better? I already played the other tales
Anonymous No.718073528
>>718072936
while I enjoyed xillia and graces, he didn't make kino like his predecessors
Anonymous No.718073538
>>718072743
based Jade poster
Anonymous No.718073601 >>718085618
>>718073470
If you hate Berseria then nope. Just jerk off to Edna
Anonymous No.718073616
>remaster
Disappointed. Just port the original Xillia 1/2 to PC
Anonymous No.718073659
>>718072936
>didn't work on Symphonia or Abyss
So THAT'S why those games are good...
Anonymous No.718073739 >>718073798 >>718073972 >>718074006
>>718067789 (OP)
Are any of these Tales games any good? I tried the newest one while it was on PS+ and I thought it was shit after a few hours.
Anonymous No.718073740
>>718072936
So without this guy, Tales is dead
Anonymous No.718073798 >>718074001
>>718073470
Zestiria is worse than Berseria, so you definitely won't like that one.
Arise is a hit or miss.
If you like how the Tales games are designed and structure, you won't like it.
If you like western ARPGs, you might like it.

>>718073739
If you like generic JRPG games, it's pretty good, yeah.
Anonymous No.718073809
>>718072936
>shit Tales games
>producer/director
>Tales of Vesperia
>Brand Manager
no wonder Vesperia turned out so well, he didnt make it
Anonymous No.718073828 >>718080523
>>718067789 (OP)
Why the fuck Xillia instead of Abyss?
Anonymous No.718073865 >>718074018 >>718074105 >>718074502 >>718077454
>>718071765
What's wrong with bringing a game that was stuck no shitty consoles to PC?
Anonymous No.718073937 >>718074148 >>718080730
>>718067789 (OP)
I started playing the tales of vesperia remaster on switch (I haven't played a tales game in decades) and it feels terrible. Super stiff and slow combat. Guarding feels useless as the lag between starting and ending your guard is decades and they just hit you after your guard anyways.

I imagine symphonia was like this as well when I played it as a kid, but has the series really not evolved?
Anonymous No.718073972
>>718073739
they are good if you like the cast of characters. Berseria is good, xillia is pretty good, symphonia is great. graces was just ok, zestiria was shit and so was abyss.
Anonymous No.718074001
>>718073798
i really loved symphonia to death
And enjoyed abyss/vesperia/graces/xillia. They had enjoyable characters and good enough gameplay. But i just couldn't stand berseria for more than 5h. I couldn't jive with the edgy girl MC
Anonymous No.718074006
>>718073739
Try out Eternia, Destiny DC or Rebirth if you're interested in the 2D ones. Otherwise Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia are often seen as the "golden era trilogy" of the 3D ones.
Anonymous No.718074018
>>718073865
This is the type of shit that just some years ago you would have announced right before or after a new game announcement, not as the only news in years.
Anonymous No.718074032
Post Jude direct tethering Milla
Anonymous No.718074105 >>718074502 >>718082958
>>718073865
People who care about the game already played it. People who have never heard of the game are too busy playing roblox.
Anonymous No.718074138 >>718074370
>Vesperia was the last classic tales game before copy paste hallway corridor era
its not fair :(
Anonymous No.718074148
>>718073937
arise picks the game play up quite a bit, but suffers from the exact same super armor issues that every tales game suffers from
Anonymous No.718074154
>>718071180
>zestiria if it was good
Anonymous No.718074179 >>718074216
>THE ONLY GOOD TALES GAME IS _________!
Anonymous No.718074216
>>718074179
definitely not abyss
Anonymous No.718074308
>>718072003
"Please buy 1 to show that you want 2."
>never releases 2 after their impossible goal is not met
Anonymous No.718074317
Tales was goiod when you were playing with friends and didn't give one half of one shit about the plot. You argued over which waifu you wanted to bang. That's all.

The more they tried to make it epic and removed the charm, the more it plops.
Anonymous No.718074356
Whore of Tales
Anonymous No.718074367
>>718068047
Either wait forever(aka never) for pic related, real hardware, or go play it in Dolphin.
Anonymous No.718074370 >>718074504
>>718074138
Hearts R is not very high budget but it has an overworld and feels alot like the classics
Anonymous No.718074380
>718074216 (You)
This anon got mad at >>717893954
Anonymous No.718074381
>>718072936
>series released its best game after he left
Anonymous No.718074487
I love these remasters because they uncap the Framerate on PC.
Anonymous No.718074502 >>718082958
>>718074105
>>718073865
>People who care about the game already played it.
Anon's right.
Even if you don't have a PS3, the Xillias are super light and easy to emulate on RPCS3, so there's no excuses.
Anonymous No.718074504
>>718074370
just a shame about the translation
Anonymous No.718074510 >>718094341 >>718094663 >>718094817
Bros... i cant get into Graces F. The world feels so small
Anonymous No.718074607 >>718074703
>>718067789 (OP)
>remaster
>remake
>remaster
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW TALES GAME BANDAI?
Anonymous No.718074703 >>718080974
>>718074607
In another castle.
https://gamerant.com/tales-of-series-remasters-announced/
Anonymous No.718074741
>>718072064
>mald
Tranny detected
Anonymous No.718074826
Someday i will finish Tales of Graces.
>Last Save : 3 months ago
Anonymous No.718074882
>>718071635
That's a very low bar.
>>718071668
Off yourself.
Anonymous No.718074912 >>718075002 >>718075121 >>718075265
>>718068047
Is Symphonia worth playing? Just saw the remastered version on sale.
Anonymous No.718074965 >>718075206
>>718071931
Proofs?
Anonymous No.718075002
>>718074912
worth playing yeah but not the garbage "remaster" just emulate the gamecube version.
Anonymous No.718075121
>>718074912
Symphonia is, the remaster is a trade-off though.
The original release for the GC runs at 60 FPS natively but has less content, the PS2 version and the remasters which are all based on it run at 30 FPS but have extra content.
Anonymous No.718075206
>>718074965
nta but she makes the game good
Anonymous No.718075265
>>718074912
Sure, but do go with the remaster. Every version post-Gamecube has new content that wasn't available back then. New Mystic Artes for every character, bosses have new moves, a new optional dungeon, new events, a casino, new cutscenes, scenes that were unvoiced are now voiced, new costumes, etc.
The one thing you lose out on are 60FPS, but you should know both the pros and cons because you will be missing out on a whole bunch of content if you trust /v/'s OLD GOOD NEW BAD (even if Symphonia's ports *are* subpar, but still add shitloads of things that make the GC releas feel like a beta akin to 360 Vesperia)
Anonymous No.718075432 >>718077289 >>718078773
why couldnt cumco add VAs to symphonia remastered
its not like scott melville sounds different even 20 years later
Anonymous No.718075773 >>718077382
>>718073435
she is the last lolicon fanservice char, no wonder she has erotic drawings. middle schoolers make me a quickshot.
Anonymous No.718076949
>>718068405
He isn't lying, tho. Xillia is garbage, Xillia 2 was a damage control released one year later and some of the same problems along new ones.
Anonymous No.718077004
>>718068654
It's the most underwhelming "mainline" game after Zestiria and Arise.
Anonymous No.718077065
>>718071635
Abyss rapes all Team Destiny games, sorry.
Anonymous No.718077234
>>718070385
I like elympios. I want more industrial magitech punk settings.
Anonymous No.718077289 >>718077781
>>718075432
Bamco treats symphonia less than garbage.
Even Graces F Remastered brought back the likes of Laura Bailey and Jamieson Price to voice some leftover dlc skits that were still JP only.
Anonymous No.718077382 >>718077607
>>718075773
>she is the last lolicon fanservice char
fuck you are right, no edna doesnt count zestiria fags
Anonymous No.718077394
>>718068654
no lol
Anonymous No.718077454
>>718073865
It's 10 years late and will cost 40~50$ anyway.
Anonymous No.718077607
>>718077382
Yes because Edna is not a loli
Anonymous No.718077693
>Graces still doesn't have a mod to re-add all the licensed dlc costumes
Guess Xillia will also be doomed.
Anonymous No.718077781 >>718077949
>>718077289
>Bamco treats symphonia less than garbage
Because Abyss and Vesperia were both 10x better but people just wank off Symphonia because it was on gamecube.

I'm pretty sure the symphoniafags don't even play other tales games.
Anonymous No.718077949 >>718078103
>>718077781
Tbh, most people probably didn't play more than 2, 3 or 4 games of any series.
That's why every Tales thread is a circlejerk about Team Symphonia games or Berseria.
Anonymous No.718078029
>>718073470
That's sad. I love almost everything about Berseria. It was an apology game for how bad Zestiria was. Like how xillia 2 was much better than xillia 1 and abyss was way better than symphonia and the next tales game will be way better than arise.
Anonymous No.718078103
>>718077949
It doesn't help the first PC tales game was zestiria of all goddamn things. Set a very bad example right away.
Anonymous No.718078431 >>718078556 >>718078824 >>718080379
>Xillia 1
>Without 2
I sleep
Anonymous No.718078437 >>718078545 >>718085810
>>718068654
Xilia 1 has the best skit in any game.
It is pretty deep into the game and I don't want to spoil it but I have fond childhood memories of it.
Anonymous No.718078542
>>718068296
xillia was my first tales
pretty main char(female)
basic rpg
skits were new to me and quickly got annoying
got me into other tales games but they turned out to be so much fucking story and filler the only good thing was the gameplay
they expected tons of playthrus to complete but i have to many other games so it was a one and done game. then xillia 2 comes out but i didnt get that till years later and its still unopened on my shelf.
someday ill go thru xillia 1(again) and do as much as possible then go right into 2
at the rate game are it will be less then 10 years since most shit nowadays is complete garbage and i have so much backlog
Anonymous No.718078545 >>718078769
>>718078437
>xillia
>childhood
UNDERAGE
Anonymous No.718078556 >>718080379
>>718078431
if it really is just 1 and not a pack that includes both games then this is a gigantic blunder and waste of time. they should be treated like one game.
Anonymous No.718078596 >>718078924 >>718079014
>>718072097
It sure killed the series by antagonizing the fans
Anonymous No.718078769
>>718078545
come anon let's mana tether.
Anonymous No.718078773
>>718075432
Because they don’t want to pay for union voice talent. It’s why Lloyd sounds like a chipmunk in all of his other English voiced appearances and why characters randomly change voice actors mid-scene in Vesperia DE. It was a miracle they brought back the original English TOS voice talent for the Chronicles battle lines.
Anonymous No.718078824 >>718084447
>>718078431
>Xillia at all
I sleep
Anonymous No.718078924
>>718078596
You ignoring the fact that Bamco burning out money by releasing endless streams of Gachas. Zestiria is still classic Tales we want
Anonymous No.718079014
>>718078596
Still better than Arise and I can't believe I'm saying this.
Anonymous No.718079016
finally playing arise now. I missed the cheesy stories. they grow on you
Anonymous No.718079254 >>718079449 >>718079750
>>718071931
the hate zestiria gets makes absolutely no sense to me. it's peak tales.
Anonymous No.718079406
>>718068201
>They also trademarked Destiny
I think bamco would rather kill themselves then translate one of the untranslated tales games
So best case scenario you're getting an emulated PS1 Destiny lmao
Anonymous No.718079449
>>718079254
>Post merger title
>peak anything
Anonymous No.718079518 >>718079808
Legendia gets no love
its a beautiful game, great music and JP acting, but treated like Just Dance shovelware
Anonymous No.718079576 >>718080068
Zestiria won
Anonymous No.718079701
Anonymous No.718079750 >>718079798
>>718079254
I love this series and have played every game in the series including the Japanese ones and Zestiria is far and away the worst aside from Tempest.

>most generic plot and setting in the series
>one-dimensional characters
>battle system is a shittier version of Graces that doubles down on the design decisions from that combat system that should have instead have been removed or heavily tweaked
>awful equipment system
>rushed, poorly explained character death that has me rolling my eyes at the writing
>by default, locked to 30 FPS because they tied the game logic to frame rate
>ugly, muddy graphics
>fast travel uses substantial amounts of in-game currency

Only good thing about it was the music.
Anonymous No.718079798
>>718079750
ok cool hyperbole
Anonymous No.718079808 >>718083056
>>718079518
>Legendia gets no love
none of the games do unless it's to shit on another one
tales fags are just bitter and jaded now, that's why legendianon left
Anonymous No.718079879
>xillia 2 ending had god confirming other timelines erased.
>except IT said it in 2 endings.
dude is a fucking liar.
Anonymous No.718079964 >>718080327 >>718080556
Arise was annoying because you spend most your time in every boss fight spamming items to keep your retarded teammates alive as they constantly run directly into the bosses instant kill move.
Anonymous No.718079974 >>718082285
I want to platinum symphonia but I need like 3 more full playthroughs. problem is I found the plot progression so confusing. anyone got a simple list of where to go from start to finish?
Anonymous No.718080068 >>718081923
>>718079576
Werent those two guys gay for each other or something?
Anonymous No.718080176
I had fun with Rays ;)
Anonymous No.718080246
>>718068654
It was my first ever JRPG so I'm biased but I like it a lot
Anonymous No.718080327 >>718083696
>>718079964
not really exclusive to Arise. In most tales games I like to make the party consist mostly of people who can attack at range to avoid running into hitboxes
Anonymous No.718080379 >>718080494
>>718078556>>718078431

Considering Vesperia PS3 and Graces F (and another trash port of Symphonia) were the last remasters, it's hilarious how underwhelming Xillia by itself for 40$ would be.
Anonymous No.718080424
>>718067789 (OP)
Only if 2 is coming with it, I never finished 2
Anonymous No.718080494
>>718080379
They should have done a doublepack since xillia 2 standalone is gunna sell like shit. JRPG sequels in general seem to sell horribly lately
Anonymous No.718080523
>>718073828
Xillia unironically needs it more. PS3 emulation sucks balls while PS2 emulation is fine.
Anonymous No.718080556
>>718079964
There's only global AI in Arise, so the only real team comp is Alphen/Law/Kisara and the three mages.
Anonymous No.718080730 >>718080824 >>718080908
>>718073937
Vesperia's gameplay is good but it has a learning curve. You need to play on manual so you can guard cancel your moves so they're safer on hit. It also takes forever for you to get the skills that let you combo your artes and that's when the gameplay starts really shining. It's my biggest complaint about the game.
Anonymous No.718080824 >>718086050
>>718080730
I'd definitely say Yuri doesn't feel great to play until around act 2. Too many mechanics are progress gated and our attention spans are worse than they were in 2008
Anonymous No.718080837 >>718080927
Anonymous No.718080908
>>718080730
Nah Vesperia's gameplay is good but only for like the last third of the game. Vesperia is the absolute number one worst game in the series when it comes to blueballing you on all the fun shit until you unlock it later down the line. The first like 20 hours of Vesperia is so boring I'd rather play DotNW.
Anonymous No.718080910 >>718080974 >>718081005 >>718081090
And a new fucking game when?
Anonymous No.718080927
>>718080837
fractured milla my wife
Anonymous No.718080974
>>718080910
Not soon.
>>718074703
Anonymous No.718081005 >>718081094
>>718080910
I unironically would like them to just stick with remasters because when we get a new game it's Zesteria or Arise which are 2 of the worst games in the entire series so if that's what's on the cards I don't fucking want a new game. Just redo every old game and then let it fucking die.
Anonymous No.718081040 >>718081105 >>718081141 >>718081468 >>718083761
am I enjoying arise? it responds me of symphonia
Anonymous No.718081090
>>718080910
Lol
Lmao
Anonymous No.718081094 >>718081171 >>718086112
>>718081005
If the next tales game doesn't have an overworld they should fire the directors until they find one who wants to do a game with an overworld.
Anonymous No.718081105
>>718081040
I sure as fuck hope you aren't
Anonymous No.718081141
>>718081040
The beginning feels similiar and honestly Arise's beginning leaves a good impression. The veil comes off quickly that the game feels more like a theme park ride than Symphonia did
Anonymous No.718081171
>>718081094
I will always love Expedition 33 for proving you can have a game with good looking graphics and still have an overworld. That we don't need dumbass corridors connecting everything.
Anonymous No.718081248 >>718081528 >>718086348
Xillia and Xillia 2 are both pretty flawed games but I'd lie if I said I didn't love playing them.
I mostly care about them together, tho.
Anonymous No.718081253
>That Size difference
Anonymous No.718081468 >>718081765
>>718081040
Arise starts good. Then Balseph happens. It gets worse with Ganabelt and every new boss fight.
Anonymous No.718081470 >>718081696 >>718081841
>today i will remind them
Anonymous No.718081471
>>718067789 (OP)
>Xilla
Wow it's fucking nothing.

Too bad Zesteria will never get remastered, it was the Tales game I enjoyed the most since Abyss.
Anonymous No.718081526
10/10 body
Anonymous No.718081528
>>718081248
I played the shit out of them in highschool so they are a nostalgic guilty pleasure for me
Anonymous No.718081614
>>718067789 (OP)
>Tales of Xillia
>Not Tales of Abyss
BAMCO YOU RATS
Anonymous No.718081674 >>718082229 >>718082497
Tales is better when it's rushed, non-ironically. Abyss, Xillia 2 and Berseria were released in one/two years. Sometimes it only needs a second version to iron things, like Vesperia and Graces.
Zestiria and Arise had the longest developments in the series and ended up pretty shit.
Anonymous No.718081696 >>718082142
>>718081470
I remember how the final area had weapons for Alisha but you couldn't use them
Anonymous No.718081717 >>718081749 >>718081848 >>718082130
>One of the most popular girl in Tales
>Its a literal who to Gaijins
Anonymous No.718081737 >>718081934
>>718067789 (OP)
>Tales of Xillia Remake
>not abyss
one job.
Anonymous No.718081749
>>718081717
Yeah, popular for girls.
Anonymous No.718081765 >>718084025
>>718081468
I just beat balseph
Anonymous No.718081812
Anonymous No.718081841 >>718082046
>>718081470
>buy Alisha costume DLC
>replaced 1/3rd of the way through the game with a worse character
>all costumes transferred to her
Anonymous No.718081848 >>718084587
>>718081717
Tales really had lots of 10/10 hebes.
God i miss Inomata
Anonymous No.718081923 >>718082025
>>718080068
well to put it one way, if the white haired guy was a chick everyone'd be calling it a standard tales romance
Anonymous No.718081927
When was the last time we had a new Tales?
Anonymous No.718081934
>>718081737
>Tales of Xillia Remake
Remaster, not remake.
Anonymous No.718082025
>>718081923
they weren't that overtly romantic
Gay as fuck undertones at times but not really committing because Sorey is borderline asexual.
Anonymous No.718082026
Kinda disappointed it wasn't Abyss.
Anonymous No.718082046 >>718082376 >>718082858
>>718081841
Sorey was pretty strong at the end of the game, it's weird that they never let Alisha come back, she was a functional character that only needed Armatization. 7 characters in the final party would've been nice.
Something like Flynn joining forever at the end.
Anonymous No.718082130
>>718081717
just one of the many things caused by bamco being dumbasses and not translating some of the best games in the series
Anonymous No.718082142 >>718082235
>>718081696
yeah there were a couple lances and ribbons in late game areas where she isnt playable. baba's dick duined zestiria
Anonymous No.718082229 >>718082351
>>718081674
you ended up pretty shit
Anonymous No.718082235
>>718082142
imagine being forced to work a ton of overtime because your boss late in production decided the heroine should fuck off and become a side character halfway through
Anonymous No.718082285
>>718079974
At what point? The game basically hand holds you for the majority of it apart from which path you want to take to the tower of salvation after the 1st, and much later when you need to go collect summon spirits. Otherwise the plot tells you where to go/glossary thing reminds you
Anonymous No.718082351
>>718082229
Seethe, Arise tourist
Anonymous No.718082376 >>718100419
>>718082046
guarantee if zestiria had gotten the PS3 vesperia treatment they would've pulled a flynn with her
Anonymous No.718082438 >>718082717 >>718083161
15 years for a remaster of the first half of the game.
Bravo, Namco.
Anonymous No.718082497 >>718082690 >>718083181 >>718083293 >>718086792
>>718081674
I'd agree with Abyss and Berseria but Xillia 2 is massively overrated on /v/ for some reason. The story is one of the worst in the series and the gameplay while technically decent on paper ends up feeling worse than Xillia 1 due to all the interesting shit being locked to Ludger making using him even more one note than Velvet.
Anonymous No.718082690 >>718082761 >>718082806
>>718082497
When people praise entries like Vesperia for its stories and themes, Xillia 2's story looks like a fucking masterpiece in comparison.
Anonymous No.718082704
I hope newfags don't make the same mistake I did and play the milla route instead of jude's
Anonymous No.718082717
>>718082438
The leak we saw earlier said it's both Xillia 1 and 2 bundled together
Anonymous No.718082761 >>718087218
>>718082690
>praise entries like Vesperia for its stories and themes,
Who the fuck does that?
Anonymous No.718082806 >>718083152 >>718083163
>>718082690
Bro Xillia 2 downright feels like fanfiction it handles the characters so awfully.
Anonymous No.718082825
>>718067789 (OP)
No
Anonymous No.718082858 >>718083975
>>718082046
Baba was obsessed with Rose's VA so he gave all the lines to Rose, Zestiria skits are literally about how cool Rose is kek
Anonymous No.718082881
>No Madoka DLC no buy
Anonymous No.718082958 >>718084561
>>718074105
>>718074502
>People who care about the game already played it.
I have a friend who got into Tales in the last few years and he's interested in playing Xillia. Emulation isn't that common among normalfags, ESPECIALLY PS3 emulation.
Anonymous No.718083056
>>718079808
You can apply that to EVERY jrpg. Now it's xillia turn so suddenly xillia is bad and should have been abyss legendia etc etc but as soon as namco announces those ports they will shit on those instead
Millennials just can't accept they are too old for these games
Anonymous No.718083152 >>718083326
>>718082806
>feels like fanfiction it handles the characters so awfully.
nta but better or worse than Symphonia 2's handling of 1's cast?
Anonymous No.718083161 >>718083362
>>718082438
>first half of the game
Xillia 1 is a complete game and Xillia 2 is a sequel of that complete game. This isn't some .hack or Trails shit. That being said, it better be both games.
Anonymous No.718083163
>>718082806
It's the best part of Xillia. Jude, Elize and especially Leia were totally pushovers in 1. At least in 2 they aren't being pulled by Milla everywhere they go and have their own agendas/plans.
Anonymous No.718083181
>>718082497
2 was chuuni/suffer kino
If I had a complaint at the time it was that the returning cast was mostly there to watch ludger suffer when the fractured dimension isn't about them
Anonymous No.718083267
And Alvin betraying the party every 2hrs got old fast
Anonymous No.718083293
>>718082497
It's a self-insert power fantasy, the people praising it are the same reason you have 50 OP isekai anime every season now.
Anonymous No.718083326 >>718083740
>>718083152
I honestly didn't mind how DotNW handled the previous game's cast. Lloyd obviously sticks out like a sore thumb, but he's clearly just acting like Kratos and trying to do the whole 2cool4u shit while working behind the scenes. The Jewel Hunter shtick is his only solace.
Anonymous No.718083362 >>718083545
>>718083161
Complete is a huge stretch considering how half assed and rushed it is in comparison to most Tales released before.
Anonymous No.718083383 >>718083734 >>718088547
>>718068376
>they would
no, every single remaster has proven that the goal is always just, be as lazy as possible to optimize profits. Bamco has proven this multiple times themsef.
Can you even name a single remaster where this is not true, but an actual passion project made by the original devs.

Even if they have the GC sourcecode, they are using the PS2/PS3 version because it has some extra outfits and already some visual 'upgrades' applied.
Anonymous No.718083404
>makes an ai interpolated 60fps upscale
Anonymous No.718083419
>>718067789 (OP)
I still can’t believe tales of arise is the last takes of game we are getting
Anonymous No.718083545 >>718083914
>>718083362
you can't complain too much for a sequel one year later
Anonymous No.718083696 >>718083890 >>718095613
>>718080327
Difference is in other tales game you could at least stun lock the boss, NONE of the bosses in arise can be stopped from doing attacks other than once per fight and the stun is like fucking 3 seconds
Anonymous No.718083734 >>718085191
>>718083383
>Can you even name a single remaster where this is not true, but an actual passion project made by the original devs.
it's not the original devs but the guys who made the we love katamari remaster and are making the upcoming new game seem to genuinely really like katamari
Anonymous No.718083740 >>718084013
>>718083326
on one end, lloyd can go around fucking presea all over the world for a year
but on the other end, lloyd proposes to a woman right in front of raine and she doesn't really gives a shit even if they're dating
it's a mixed bag
Anonymous No.718083761
>>718081040
You will stop having fun when you get to the ice land boss fight
Anonymous No.718083804
Rose sucks penis
Anonymous No.718083890 >>718084141
>>718083696
Whoever thought a fucking Tales game would benefit from a Dark Souls dodge and hyper amour on bosses needs to be fired cause god damn is Arise not the worst feeling action RPG I've ever played in my fucking life.
Anonymous No.718083914
>>718083545
This is true
Anonymous No.718083975 >>718084110
>>718082858
Imagine if he obsessed with Edna seiyuu instead. The lady does lots of eroges.
Anonymous No.718083991
Bosses in Arise being unstaggerable ruined it
Anonymous No.718084013
>>718083740
lloyd is dumb, he is made for Collette
Anonymous No.718084025 >>718084098
>>718081765
Are you playing on easy? Legitimately the only way you could enjoy that fight
Anonymous No.718084032 >>718084193
I think there's a chance it's both. Hacker's Memory, Baten Kaitos and DotHack all got compiled.
Dawn of the New World was always considered a spin-off, despite Namco changing classification. And a bad one, too.
Anonymous No.718084098
>>718084025
I'm playing on normal. the fight was n nothing special
Anonymous No.718084110 >>718084543
>>718083975
any examples, you know to study her vocal range?
Anonymous No.718084141
>>718083890
Like I could forgive the mobs having mild iron stance but the fucking bosses aswell? Fucking cancer, like why the fuck is this mage just tanking my sword hits to the face
Anonymous No.718084193
>>718084032
I still can't believe we got .hack sequels and baten remasters but Harada refuses to bring Xenosaga remaster
Anonymous No.718084216 >>718084375 >>718084478 >>718084603
PLAY DAWN OF THE NEW WORLD
Anonymous No.718084223
I always get the urge to replay Berseria because I loved the characters and their interactions, but then I remember how dull the gameplay was.
Anonymous No.718084301
hideos bob ruined tales
Anonymous No.718084375 >>718084470
>>718084216
i did as a kid, pretty sure marta left a lasting desire for obsessive women on my psyche
Anonymous No.718084447 >>718085249
>>718078824
I want to make babies with Anise.
Anonymous No.718084463
>>718070404
That Alvin guy sure seems cool looking. Think I'll main him
Anonymous No.718084470
>>718084375
the good old days when laura bailey would voice any anime highschooler for $20
Anonymous No.718084478
>>718084216
Fuck no.
Anonymous No.718084543
>>718084110
She does eroges under an Alias. I forgot which one
Anonymous No.718084561 >>718085194
>>718082958
Intellect issue.
If your first answer to "I want to play X console game" isn't "let's see if it can be emulated" then you/your friend have/has low IQ.
Anonymous No.718084587
>>718081848
Women like young things, they know what is attractive.
Anonymous No.718084603
>>718084216
I wish it decided on one direction. Either an actual sequel and continuation or just rewalking the steps of Symphonia to suck the cast YOU CANT EVEN LEVEL off.
Still like it fairly enough. Fondly remembering yelling with hype at my CRT TV because my shitmon I leveled up beat a hard arena fight while a girl I wasn't aware I was dating was over in the kitchen.
Anonymous No.718084634
I am playing Eternia on my psp :)
Anonymous No.718084739 >>718084905 >>718084917
Anonymous No.718084814
I've recently boughtered xillia on the triple and started playing it but didn't get far as I focus on other games for now that I'm about to finish
should I wait for this or keep playing xillia and also xillia 2 if it's going to be only xillia 1 remaster and not the duology
I think the game is ok, I didn't play that many jrpgs to judge how good it is but it has fun skits and the combat is good but some sceneries are dogshit like it feels that the passage to HD gaming wasn't smooth for them
Anonymous No.718084905
>>718084739
Miggers.png
Anonymous No.718084914 >>718085006 >>718089278 >>718089383
Wasn't Xilia the one people hated, and said to play the sequel instead?
Anonymous No.718084917
>>718084739
No idea who this is but she looks like she is into fat hairy men with poor cock hygiene.
Anonymous No.718084920 >>718085001
Oh damn, I could have sworn I had filtered boughtered.
Thanks Pepe.
Anonymous No.718085001
>>718084920
why don't you answer my question
just because you don't like the image I attached to my post it doesn't mean that my opinion is automatically discarded
Anonymous No.718085006
>>718084914
Xillia is eh. Xillia 2 is good but it relies on the playing having played Xillia
Anonymous No.718085054
I don't have anything about consoles, Eterniabro.
The point was that it's pure common sense to look for ways to play X or Y game when/if you don't have the only console they were released for.
Enjoy yourself.
Anonymous No.718085057
>>718067789 (OP)
i just want an official western releade of destiny 1 remake and destiny 2
Anonymous No.718085136
Anonymous No.718085180 >>718090916
I've played a few Tales games. I enjoyed Vesperia and Abyss, but Arise was kinda meh. Is there any other installment worth trying?
Anonymous No.718085191
>>718083734
Don't know about it, might check it out.
Argument still stands though. It might be a similar thing like AoE2:DE, it turned out well because passionate fans are working on it, not a team quickly thrown together with some interns to shit something out for free money.

The Lifebottle Tales of remasters are already better than anything Bamco made.
Anonymous No.718085194
>>718084561
Anonymous No.718085249
>>718084447
You take her baby oven, I take Anise's Anus
Anonymous No.718085298 >>718085408 >>718085653
I love Xillia 2. Its the most unique Tales with the weird debt system, more depressing story, more focus on side quests and the silent protagonist
Anonymous No.718085316 >>718085627 >>718085675
So yeah we got Xillia on PC now.... Great.....
.....But where are the new Games ?
Anonymous No.718085356
>>718068654
Xillia is dogshit, but Xillia 2 is the best in the series. So depends on how lazy and greedy they are.
Anonymous No.718085408
>>718085298
For me it was that absolutely ridiculous plot hook with paying a medical debt through destroying alternate dimensions. The bad ending was great too.
Anonymous No.718085446
SHARING IS CARING
SHARING IS CARING
SHARING IS CARING
Anonymous No.718085524
MUTTON. FRESH MUTTON
Anonymous No.718085545
>remaster
you mean port? Because none of these "remasters" look any different.
And tales games dont need remasters, because as mentioned before, they never actually update the graphics, so why wouldnt i just play the original
Anonymous No.718085587
>I hate X and Y gameplay of Tales series
Do they not all play the same with not much difference? How can anyone say one is better than the other.
Anonymous No.718085618
>>718073601
Zestiria is a lot better than Berseria.
Anonymous No.718085627
>>718085316
...new games?
Anonymous No.718085653 >>718085784 >>718086228 >>718088040
>>718085298
What is the debt system?
Anonymous No.718085675
>>718085316
We have 1 or 2 years for a new tales of game with the rate it’s going
Anonymous No.718085689
Anonymous No.718085784
>>718085653
xillia 2 is a commentary on the american health care system
Anonymous No.718085790 >>718085875 >>718085954 >>718086150
>>718067789 (OP)
>only xillia 1 and not 2
god damn they're milking this shit
i ain't paying for this shit retards, i'll just wait for the crack
Anonymous No.718085810
>>718078437
>Xilia 1 has the best skit in any game
The beetle skit and underground tunnels in Berseria skill make me giggle like a girl.
Anonymous No.718085875
>>718085790
Not confirmed
Anonymous No.718085939 >>718086219
About to play rebirth with a bro
What am I in for
Anonymous No.718085954
>>718085790
We don't know if that's the case. But its more than possible.
Anonymous No.718086050 >>718090117
>>718080824
Vesperia's combat is grear but they made the insane decision to add a limited SP cost to skills when they were all active by default in Abyss. This slowed down combat progression big time. It's why everyone remembers ng+ so fondly compared to their first playthrough.
Anonymous No.718086112
>>718081094
This. Overworlds are so underrated.
Anonymous No.718086150
>>718085790
Stop making assumptions you dumb fuck
Anonymous No.718086219
>>718085939
Racism, peach pies and furries, goddamn that's a lot of furries
Anonymous No.718086228 >>718087430
>>718085653
Story progress is gated by paying off a certain amount of currency. Any normal JRPG player will never have a problem with it because they'll fight the local boss first, which always gives enough reward money. If you're the type to rush through games and ignore side content, the money gate will absolutely cripple your experience and make this the worst game in the world.
Anonymous No.718086271 >>718086424 >>718086504
So....where does the Tales series go from here? Assuming Bandai Namco's going to make a new game soon (if ever?), are they going to go for an Arise "2" or go back to how the old Tales games looked and played? Would be kind of weird if they went back, it would make Arise stand out so much.
Anonymous No.718086348
>>718081248
>janky and awkward cutscene animation (except a handful of fmv action cutscenes)
>empty and flat areas make exploration boring and formulaic
>world lore is a bit generic
But
>excellent characters
>really fun combat especially in 2
>vivid color palette
>great upgrade system
Overall a solid 8. The gameplay boosts it a lot.
Anonymous No.718086424
>>718086271
they can't make old style tales games because they either fired or banished everyone who was making them to the failed gacha mines. it's arise 2 or remasters or nothing
Anonymous No.718086476 >>718105204
Tales of Berseria is the best just because it has Magilou
Anonymous No.718086489
May as well have the remaster be 1+2.
Anonymous No.718086504
>>718086271
they dont have two teams revolving workloads so it just takes longer for the next HD game to come out now. At best Bamco has one tales team and one remaster team
Anonymous No.718086550 >>718086702 >>718086912 >>718087185
>>>>>>>>Not Abyss
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
Anonymous No.718086702
>>718086550
Based. They really dropped the ball here.
Anonymous No.718086792 >>718087645
>>718082497
>The story is one of the worst in the series
Symphonia imo.
>spend first third on generic sacrificial lamb pilgrimage
>game has literally 1 smart conversation between Lloyd and the blonde girl I forgot the name of already.
>2nd and 3rd parts are running around the second world gathering macguffins to cure Colette that was her name. Then cure her again. And again.
>Kratos occasionally shows up to say something cryptic and unhelpful.
>suddenly the final boss who is a crybaby bitch and his point is "everyone hates logic so I will be an emotional toddler"
>the end
What the fuck did I play?
Anonymous No.718086821
Boomer here, I wont play any Tales game released after Abyss, signed as a Tales of DestinyCHAD
Anonymous No.718086912 >>718088754
>>718086550
It already has a remaster.
On the 3ds
Anonymous No.718087090
name the next mainline game
Anonymous No.718087185
>>718086550
They teased abyss a lot so I wouldn't be surprised if that one got the remake treatment
Anonymous No.718087218
>>718082761
Me. Vesperia's writing is excellent and I've never been convinced it's bad yet. I've gone on long paragraph spanning sperg rants explaining the point of the story to people who aggressively refuse to get something aimed at teenagers.
Anyone who says "it drops off in the 3rd act" is an actual brainmatter leaking vegetable.

The story has a very concise, pointed and well shaped story about Personal Justice framed primarily through the characters Yuri and Flynn with the final boss being an extreme version of Yuri's own justice taken to its ultimate form.

If you have a problem with the writing, please do elaborate. And none of that "Yuri should go to jail for saving the world and killing untouchable bad guys" crap please.
Anonymous No.718087430 >>718087498
>>718086228
I played xillia 2 three times and keep forgetting the debt system even exists.
Anonymous No.718087498
>>718087430
all you ever had to do was fight a monster from the bounty board and that gives enough money to proceed
Anonymous No.718087645
>>718086792
symphonia is a very dense story and it can be hard to store all plot points in the brain at one time. The crybaby bitch was actually a rascist deranged sisterfucker who got mad that after hundreds of virgin sacrifices his resurrected sister told him he was retarded
Anonymous No.718087849 >>718088054
>>718072936
I hate how i miss baba
Why did he had to fuck zestiria?
Anonymous No.718088031
>>718067789 (OP)
They lost the source code of the sixth gen games, didn't they?
This is the fourth seventh-gen Tales of that gets remastered.
Anonymous No.718088040
>>718085653
you have a debt of 20,000,000 gald and you constantly get bugged to pay it vy doing side quests and bounties
Anonymous No.718088054 >>718088295
>>718087849
The man is overhated. He fucked up pretty bad, but it was just once. He still pushed out good shit like Destiny DC, Graces, and Xillia 2.
Anonymous No.718088295
>>718088054
I agree, but it did spiral his career out of control and get him blacklisted from the industry
Anonymous No.718088307 >>718089587
for me, it's zestiria
Anonymous No.718088376
Hideo Kobaba
Anonymous No.718088467 >>718096880
>>718067789 (OP)
If Xillia 2 is a package deal then yeah. Xillia 2 was fucking great. Xillia one, not so much.
Anonymous No.718088547
>>718083383
>tell me you haven't checked the Graces remaster without telling me
Anonymous No.718088575
Never relax around zestiria and xillia 2 niggers.
Anonymous No.718088620 >>718088705
I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH THAT ONE CHARACTER
Anonymous No.718088705
>>718088620
Teepo? You're really strange, anon.
Anonymous No.718088754 >>718088832
>>718086912
We had one yes, but what about second remaster
Anonymous No.718088763 >>718088835 >>718088910 >>718088916 >>718088970 >>718089315 >>718089475 >>718090347 >>718096964
Did Tales become moeblob anime shit after Abyss or am I wearing nostalgia goggles? I loved Symphonia because it mirrored FFIX in a lot of ways, but future iterations felt like they catered to the otaku Atelier audience.
Anonymous No.718088832
>>718088754
>remasters the 3DS version to PC, which is 30fps
Anonymous No.718088835
>>718088763
no
Anonymous No.718088910 >>718090253
>>718088763
Symphonia and Abyss was written by the same woman and she wasn't afraid to take the games to serious places
Anonymous No.718088916
>>718088763
Your goggles, and they do nothing. You can make an argument that it became more focused on it as time went on, but the aesthetic was there since Phantasia, just corresponding to its time period.
Anonymous No.718088970
>>718088763
Symphonia was already halfway to feeling like a saturday morning anime (so much that it even got its own anime) so I'd say it was a bit before that. But yeah it looks like it got real bad around the PS3/360 era post Abyss.
Anonymous No.718089208 >>718089471 >>718089596 >>718097656
Reminder that nothing has changed and we're bound to be in conflict for the rest of time.
Anonymous No.718089278 >>718089383
>>718084914
People were pretty mid about it, yeah. It's just that revisionists love to hype mediocre or shit games after 10 years of release because they were unlucky enough to play it on release. Same happened to FFXIII, Crystal Chronicles, Zelda II, Lost Levels, etc.
Anonymous No.718089315 >>718090863
>>718088763
Moeblob in what way? Symphonia was full to the fucking brim with anime tropes.
Anonymous No.718089383
>>718084914
>>718089278
It's the curse of nostalgia for new generations: people who were young when Graces and Xillia came out now feel attached to them regardless of quality.
Anonymous No.718089471 >>718089975
>>718089208
definitive vesperia came out for everyone years ago, and we all got to see how mid it is.
Anonymous No.718089475
>>718088763
i can tell you've never seen reala before if you think THAT'S when things become moe
Anonymous No.718089587 >>718114272
>>718088307
Anonymous No.718089596 >>718089751
>>718089208
Anonymous No.718089751
>>718089596
>milla's lisp is cute
I wonder if that's still going to be in Remaster. She didn't have it anymore in Xillia 2 and I saw some people say it was some recording error. I'm going to use japanese dub for this anyway
Anonymous No.718089975 >>718090113 >>718090603 >>718091053
>>718089471
We go through this every time a tales game gets a fan translation or PC port
>this better be the masterpiece everyone always says it is
>wait, this isn't a masterpiece at all, it's merely........ MID
>i have to tell EVERYONE
Repeat ad nauseum
Anonymous No.718090113 >>718090183 >>718090546 >>718090864
>>718089975
because the entire series is comprised of MID
Anonymous No.718090117 >>718097095
>>718086050
Abyss still needs a decent amount of stats and being in mid/endgame level or advanced Capacity Cores to unlock the better Skills, anyway.
Abyss also gates using items to other characters and basic stuff to Capacity Core stats, so it's kinda worse.
The bad thing in Vesperia are the long ass animations without cancelling.
Anonymous No.718090183 >>718090864
>>718090113
/v/ considers the whole range of 2-9/10 to be mid so i guess that's technically true
Anonymous No.718090213 >>718090262 >>718091192
>>718067789 (OP)
when are we getting an Abyss Remake?
Anonymous No.718090253
>>718088910
Abyss, sure. Symphonia is just a worse version of Phantasia and Eternia.
Anonymous No.718090262
>>718090213
you already got it
Anonymous No.718090347
>>718088763
These kinds of posts are so fucking funny to me, to say about a JRPG franchise, especially one like Tales
Did you play Symphonia with blinders or something? Did you miss the literal loli angel who is a major part of the story in your party?
Anonymous No.718090546 >>718090636 >>718090703 >>718090864
>>718090113
It really is. We like Tales, but no one in their right minds would ever declare Tales is a masterpiece series.
Anonymous No.718090603 >>718090841
>>718089975
People's fault for hyping a game they played with their 6-month course japanese degree.
Anonymous No.718090636
>>718090546
I declares it
Anonymous No.718090703
>>718090546
Everytime someone says Tales is mid, they love and defend shitty Falcom or Atlus games, tho.
Anonymous No.718090730
I still need to play Arise
Anonymous No.718090772
>are you excited for a remaster
kys
Anonymous No.718090841 >>718091317
>>718090603
Of course the people who went out of their way to play a game they didn't know how to read yet are going to be more receptive and enthusiastic about it. Should they be equally dismissive?
>yeah i did enjoy this game enough to put this much effort into playing and finishing it. but honestly it's mid so whatever
Who the fuck would listen to someone like that?
Anonymous No.718090863 >>718091281 >>718091768
>>718089315
Specifically in art direction and character design.
Just look at the bottom of this image and then the top, the bottom being newer games is filled with pastel colors and mixed clothing designs, what older games either had a fantasy aesthetic like symphonio or a fantasy future '90s aesthetic like abyss. Think Mobius, Nausicaa, things of that nature. If you told me the bottom games were part of some 2010s gacha franchise I would believe you. I never played any of the newer games so I can speak upon the story, but just the general look of everything was so mixed and looked extremely gay. There was a point when Japanese were influenced by worldly things and other media, now they are only influenced by other anime which is what created the moeblob epidemic. I cannot relate to any new Japanese media.
Anonymous No.718090864
>>718090113
>>718090183
>>718090546
I think that's a bit harsh
Tales has never had outright masterpiece games, like other JRPG franchises, the closest being Abyss and Vesperia but it's still a good franchise to fall into if you're in the mood and I wouldn't say there's any game that's outright shit, like other franchises.
Anonymous No.718090916
>>718085180
>Is there any other installment worth trying?
Fucking absolutely, you HAVE to play tales of Symphonia especially for its kino story, characters and even music is great,
I also highly enjoyed the very first tales game : Phantasia, but maybe thats a bit of nostalgia and the gameplay in it is the worst/dated but it had great music and atmosphere
Anonymous No.718091053 >>718091102 >>718097202
>>718089975
That only happens on Reddit. And only with Symphonia or Abyss fags that don't like anything else.
Destiny R and Rebirth were good.
Anonymous No.718091102
>>718091053
>That only happens on Reddit
Lurk moar.
Anonymous No.718091192
>>718090213
Legendia needs a remake more than Abyss. For 2nd half didnt even get full voice acting for the English release.
Anonymous No.718091239 >>718091514 >>718094157
is Arise worth playing if I bought it for 10 dollars and have nothing else to do?
Anonymous No.718091281 >>718091448
>>718090863
>Old anime good new anime bad
I've never seen these kinds of posts that isn't obnoxious as fuck.
Anonymous No.718091291
>>718068654
Good presentation and soundtrack, fun combat even if not in-depth like Graces, but the plot is kind of "Tales fare" in that you'll remember the characters more than the plot. The sequel tried to spice things up sharply but that's a very love or hate experience.
Anonymous No.718091317 >>718091695
>>718090841
Being honest helps. Untranslated games are always hyped to death by retarded weeaboos.
It's not only Tales, either. Trails/Kiseki Crossbell was hyped to death and the official release sold less 6 digits because people realized how mid the games were.
Anonymous No.718091448 >>718092278
>>718091281
it's especially hilarious because he put the same artist on both halves, twice(fujishima and okumura
Anonymous No.718091514
>>718091239
well you bought it, and have nothing to do.
but I get the feeling you'd rather browse the internet for the entire day.
Anonymous No.718091518
patty fleur, now that's a good lolibaba
Anonymous No.718091557 >>718091634
isn't this the one that people hated and some VA apologized for
Anonymous No.718091583 >>718091763 >>718091898 >>718098871
What is a masterpiece RPG, anyway. If you're gonna just say FFVII/IX/X, then nope.
Abyss, Phantasia, Symphonia and Destiny R are better than those games.
Anonymous No.718091628
>Tales of Xillia
>one of the most forgettable Tales of games in the franchise
>Not remaking Tales of Destiny (again) or porting over that shit to the states
Who is even asking for this shit? I didn't even like Xillia the first time around. I didn't like the sequel either.
Anonymous No.718091634
>>718091557
That was Zestiria.
Anonymous No.718091695
>>718091317
Being dismissive is not honesty. If you can't even describe WHAT specifically is so mid about them how does that make you more honest than someone gushing about them in detail?
Anonymous No.718091763 >>718091847
>>718091583
Expedition 33
Anonymous No.718091768 >>718092278
>>718090863
Did you really just squeeze Tales of Legendia up there for no reason?
Anonymous No.718091839 >>718092090 >>718092282 >>718092646
Just realized we haven't had a good entry to Tales or Star Ocean in years wtf even happened.
Anonymous No.718091847
>>718091763
>that story
>that ending
close, but no cigar
Anonymous No.718091858 >>718091974
>>718068047
CAN SYMPHONY FAGS JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY JESUS CHRIST NO ONE FUCKING CARES! YOU ALREADY GOT YOUR FUCKING REMASTER JUST STFU! FUCK SYMPHONIA FAGS SO FUCKING MUCH YOUR GAME ISN'T EVEN GOOD FUCK YOU AND FUCK LLOYD! NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID OVER HYPED PIECE OF SHIT ANYMORE! ITS TIME FOR THE ACTUALLY GOOD TALES GAMES TO GET REMASTERED NOW! FUCK YOU
Anonymous No.718091863 >>718091941
>Legendia
now THAT'S a game they should bring to pc
Anonymous No.718091898
>>718091583
Barkley
Anonymous No.718091929 >>718106824
>>718067789 (OP)
Any good Elize upskirt?
Anonymous No.718091941
>>718091863
I've been trying it recently and man this is a weird game. It's like the Tekken devs looked at Destiny, didn't have much for a strong plot idea as they just tossed concepts around all over the place, and then gave me a midget Mishima to punch everything to death.
Anonymous No.718091974
>>718091858
fucking hate Ryu, but based regardless
Anonymous No.718092090 >>718093552
>>718091839
Divine Force was go-
>October 27, 2022
oh.... its been 3 years already
Anonymous No.718092278
>>718091768
I just googled tales games, found an image and lazily cropped it.
>>718091448
To simplify my point, everything after abyss catered to troonime enjoyers and led to an increase in hrt prescriptions
Anonymous No.718092282
>>718091839
>Star Ocean
Divine Force wasn't anything super special but it was leagues better than Integrity and Faithlessness (what the fuck was that name, Tri-Ace), and 2R was damn well excellent all things considered unless the nostalgia for the old presentation versus HD-2D is a sticking point for someone.
Anonymous No.718092554 >>718092725
>>718073060
Instead of iterating on their recent success with Arise they took a gamble with Blue Protocol and lost. Now the game is being resurrected under Chinese hands and seeing massive hype for it under Star Resonance.

Currently they're playing it safe with all these remaster releases. Same with Square and other big names in JRPG space because new games are a big risk.
Anonymous No.718092646 >>718093560
>>718091839
I like every Star Ocean...
Anonymous No.718092725
>>718092554
in hindsight, seeing that opening for blue protocol's old version, i always did get tales vibes as if they were basically springing for a wide audience with the formula turned MMO - and then royally cocked up virtually everything about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGJikqsYn9s
Anonymous No.718093552
>>718092090
It's also worse than Arise and Zestiria, somehow.
Anonymous No.718093560
>>718092646
Based
Anonymous No.718094056 >>718094956
Anonymous No.718094157 >>718094352
>>718091239
I really never understood the hate, it's a textbook Tales of game, with all the troupes good and bad.
Anonymous No.718094341
>>718074510
replaying it made me realize the tales games are mediocre as a whole and it made me sad.
Anonymous No.718094352 >>718094640
>>718094157
It's a textbook Tales story, not a textbook Tales game.
Anonymous No.718094640 >>718095064 >>718097580
>>718094352
how so?
All i can think is the battle system being different but i have played much much worse in this series.
Anonymous No.718094663
>>718074510
Feels ok to me. Xillia felt small.
Anonymous No.718094817
>>718074510
Having interconnected paths instead of an overworld where you enter towns and dungeons kinda breaks the illusion.
Anonymous No.718094956
>>718094056
why is the fan version of her such a slut?
Anonymous No.718095064 >>718096219
>>718094640
It's not about good or bad, it's about design. Unstaggerable enemies, emphasizing iframe dodges, de-emphasizing combos. You can like it, but it's deliberately a departure from the rest of the series.
Anonymous No.718095092 >>718095663
>The head writer for Tales of Graces was the writer for that edgy pacman game
Not sure what to do with this infomation
Anonymous No.718095124 >>718095205
>>718068047
I don't care about 60 fps. Just add the fucking Japanese text you niggers. Not all of us are EOPs, Bamco.
Anonymous No.718095205 >>718095685
>>718095124
Just emulate the original or any of the ports.
Anonymous No.718095613
>>718083696
>one per fight
Alphen's knockdown only fails if the enemy is in OVL. He has the most broken and exploitable one.
Anonymous No.718095663
>>718095092
>Ghost impales Pacman
>Pacman shines in rainbow colors and uses the power of friendship to kill everyone on the stage
based
Anonymous No.718095685 >>718095883 >>718096129
>>718095205
I'll probably emulate the GC version. Is the extra content in the other versions actually good or just bloat?
Anonymous No.718095806
MILLA IS THE BEST TALES
Anonymous No.718095883 >>718096129
>>718095685
New Costumes, Artes and Mystic Artes.
I'd leave if for replay, 60fpd is better.
Anonymous No.718096129
>>718095685
>>718095883
Just get the undub unless you want silent skits
Anonymous No.718096219
>>718095064
If that fagballs omegarevolution can make combo videos, it must not be that different.
Anonymous No.718096816
>>718068654
There are only two good Tales of. The rest range from mid to straight dogshit. This one is mid.
Anonymous No.718096880
>>718088467
X1s main issue was iron stance. That was one of the biggest changes they made in x2.
Anonymous No.718096964
>>718088763
Meanwhile dead kids galore in x2 and berseria.
Anonymous No.718097037 >>718098315
Anonymous No.718097095
>>718090117
Abyss gets good once you farm sunlight chambers off of sword dancer 3, true. I hope they give some for free in the inevitable remaster.
Anonymous No.718097202 >>718098121
>>718091053
Abyssfag here.
I like most of the Tales series. I think it's awesome. I love Tales.
Anonymous No.718097352
Abyss chad here. Vesperia PS3 is the best game in the franchise with abyss in a close second (so close it's barely behind)
Anonymous No.718097580
>>718094640
>being different
Worse. It removed almost everything good about Tales combat and added literal rollslop.
The characters all suck, Alphen and Shionne are the only well written ones and the story and its themes are exactly as deep as FF16.
The skits are horrible and the 2nd half of the game just sort of gives up.

Visually it's the most beautiful anime game. The sfx is excellent. Combat music is catchy. The exploration is ok but I'd prefer an overworld than long useless tunnels.

The combat is the biggest blemish. All else can be forgiven if it had typical tales combat, but it doesn't. The main gimmick is a QTE that wins the fight for you if you chain 3 artes together in regular fights and bosses encourage spamming 1 attack and rolling. Some mystic artes like the ice swordsman expect you to chain rolls for fucks sake.
Anonymous No.718097656
>>718089208
>PS3 VESPERIA
THis image is so old it no longer matters.
Anonymous No.718098121
>>718097202
True, It still holds a good place in my old soul. despite how SMT has become my all time favorite series now. I still enjoy the series with with the faults that Arise had.
Anonymous No.718098315 >>718098486
>>718097037
WHAT THE HECK IS THAT?!
Anonymous No.718098395 >>718098593
Every Tales is flawed in a way, even the good ones
>Phantasia
Shit combat
>Destiny R
Shit endgame dungeons
>Eternia
Shit protagonist
>Destiny 2
Time trave garbage trash
>Symphonia
Tethe'alla puzzles
>Rebirth
Unidimensional protag and furries
>Legendia
Combat and gameplay in general
>Abyss
Backtracking and missables
>Innocence
>Coda, milquetoast characters
>Vesperia
Horrible pacing and story carried by Yuri
>Hearts
Shitty romance plot
>Graces
Shitty friendship plot
>Xillia
Unfinished messed game
>Xillia 2
Recycles 90% of the first
>Zestiria
Skill System, Lord of the Land, Alisha controversy, malevolence, shitty writing
>Berseria
Trash combat
>Arise
Everything besides the graphics is trash
Anonymous No.718098486 >>718098596 >>718098768
>>718098315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoeWrrLBB_4
Anonymous No.718098593
>>718098395
>>Symphonia
>Tethe'alla puzzles
Really nigger? thats where you had to nitpick?
Anonymous No.718098596
>>718098486
IT CAN'T... BEEEE
Anonymous No.718098768
>>718098486
I pitty the idiots who first experienced ToP on the fucking GBA out of all systems... what a downgraded piece of shit.
Speaking of which.. Tales of phantasia's PSP voice edition english translation NEVER EEVEEEEER!! aAAaaaiiieEEE!!!
Anonymous No.718098871 >>718099710
>>718091583
yea, Abyss is trash so I know you on drugs if you're saying it's better than FFVII. don't know about the others, but liking abyss already means your taste is highly suspect
Anonymous No.718099203 >>718100783
>>718068376
Wait a second, the Pee Ass 2 had Symphonia at 30 FPS?
Pfft...... hmphhhhhh.... *face turns blue* *veins pulsating* *steam clouds forming from nose* NNNNNNNGGGH-----
AHAHAHAHAAGHGGAHGAGHHGGHAHAGAGAGHAGGHAGHASFGHFGSFGHAFHGD
Anonymous No.718099710
>>718098871
Sorry, Squaretroon, all these games are better than FFVII.
Anonymous No.718100419
>>718082376
they couldn't because it was already on a sony console so there was no one to betray and fuck over for money :^)
Anonymous No.718100740
>>718073275
Yeah Tales Of had way too many mobile gacha games, they have been constantly trying to make this franchise into something equivalent to final fantasy for squeenix and failed every time. Only boomers like these games and zoomers will never play their low effort gachas
Anonymous No.718100783 >>718101729
>>718068376
>>718099203
I dunno wtf you fags are babbling about... theres been a 60fps patch for symphonia on PC for ages.
Cringe pathetic bait
Anonymous No.718100953
why the fuck would i be excited for a REMASTER
I still remember playing this game
Make something new instead you god damned hacks
Anonymous No.718101537
>remaster
MAKE A NEW FUCKING GAME ALREADY
Anonymous No.718101601
Anonymous No.718101729
>>718100783
tosfix doesn't do shit for framerate, only frame pacing
also kaldaien nuked all his steam on shit again after his latest meltdown
Anonymous No.718102293
Abyss or Hearts R would've been better picks
Anonymous No.718105073 >>718105816 >>718105859
remember crestoria or luminaria? yeah. they should make those into console games.
Anonymous No.718105204
>>718086476
Truth
Anonymous No.718105816
>>718105073
Would be a better deal than Arise at least, those games has interesting concepts/lore.
Arise is a worse and recycled version of half of the series.
Anonymous No.718105859
>>718105073
They should copy SE with octopath zero desu
Anonymous No.718106824
>>718091929
Anonymous No.718107678
Xillia has some of the ugliest fields and caves of the genre. It's kinda hilarious how an HD game manages to look worse than every previous mainline Tales released.
It's not Arceus Legends or SwSh level, but it's pretty close.
Anonymous No.718109330 >>718111829
Why the fuck are anons going 'they should have done a double pack'? What exactly points to this being an announcement of just Xillia 1? Am I missing something here or what?
Anonymous No.718109414 >>718109459
Elize makes me feel certain things....
Anonymous No.718109459
>>718109414
Sharing & caring?
Anonymous No.718109679
>>718067789 (OP)
Finally free of PS3 jail and now with dual audio
Anonymous No.718109724
im not sure whether or not it was a mistake to buy the bgm dlc pack for 25 dollars
Anonymous No.718109828
>>718067789 (OP)
depends on if it's a remaster or a demaster
Anonymous No.718111138 >>718111851
>>718067789 (OP)
STOP RAPING EVERY GAME WITH DEMASTERS AND DEMAKES
Anonymous No.718111243
Never played Xillia. Is the story more tolerable than Arise? Could not fucking stand that game's cast and story.
Anonymous No.718111773 >>718111829
Xillia is an unfinished game in Elympios and 2 uses cut content of the first (Gaius, Muzet) because the first is a rushed anniversary game.
Hideo Baba/the producer himself confirmed the development team rushed the game to attend the anniversary release.
It also has much less content in comparison to the previous 3-D games, like few costumes, no cameo battle, no minigames. It's not that it's confirmed, people hope for the best instead of the worst, Xillia 2 was a damage control/expansion pack of the original disguised as sequel.
Anonymous No.718111829
>>718109330
>>718111773
Anonymous No.718111851
>>718111138
I hope every game you ever loved gets a remake and the original becomes impossible to play. You retards are some of the most obnoxious fuckers on 4chan lately.
Anonymous No.718111912 >>718112828
>>718067789 (OP)
Ill only care if they announce a third game that makes the second game less depressing.
Anonymous No.718112828
>>718111912
The normal end is your happy end
Anonymous No.718114272
>>718089587
I came inside a girl with a body like that. Sadly no baby.