Thread 718091709

It's out

>>718091709 (OP)
SINDRIIIIIIIIIIIII

I CAN FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME

>>718091709 (OP)
They added sex defeat animations for Taldeer and the Canoness holy shit these devs are so fucking based. I take back everything bad I ever said about Relic.

IT IS A GOOD PAIN

Seeing people on here seethe that the game has actual widescreen support now and isn't just stretched to fit 16:9 makes me lose hope in humanity.

>>718091709 (OP)
> Doing the campaigns in order again like an autistic retard

i cant help myself. Btw i never finished dawn of war 2.... does the demon escaping cliffhanger ever get brought up again in DOW 2?

torrent where?

THE CORPORATION WOULD RESPECT YOUR OPINION ANON, IF YOU WOULD ONLY PAY $17
BETTER THIRTY TWO BITS, THAN AI UPSCALED

>>718091709 (OP)
is it good?

>>718091661
I made a visual aid just for you

>>718092523
where did the cloud layer go

>>718092020
Short answer is yes.

>>718091709 (OP)
>remake that's $20 if you own the original
>actually warranted remake due to original's engine limitations, particularly with RAM
Sounds pretty good so far. How's it actually hold up though?

>>718091889
IT IS A GOOD PAIN

>>718092603
This is 20 years later, the ozone is all gone and global warming is in full effect

>>718092115
https://1337x.to/torrent/6464106/Warhammer-40-000-Dawn-of-War-Definitive-Edition-2025-PORTABLE/

>>718092603
It's just sunny today

How does the game hold up when there are multiple AI with large armies?

>>718092670
UE5 tier stutters in the starting campaign. I'm in the middle of trying to get UA to load up.

>>718092523
Yes. Exactly as I said. The new versikn they had to stretch the background because the HUD was too small lmao. Fucking retarded faggot.

For me, its Winter Assault (imperial guard missions only)

>>718092523
>Blood Ravens Chapter and Recon were in all caps
>Are now lowercase
Ruined, shit demake

>>718092719
thanks bruv

>>718092719
You can't do that anon.
That's illegal.

torrent when

>>718092876
I dont think you know what the word Stretch means

>>718092876
I don't think stretch means what you think it means

Which race should I play in multiplayer for easy wins?

>>718092962
It's right here in this thread you double heretic

>>718092995
Eldar, especially with Portal Stall tactics

>>718092995
Eldars is broken in all games.

>>718092962
Yeah im thinking she needs to be destroyed in all her holes by a pack of Horrors

>>718092681
DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?

>>718092962
Kanade sex

does ot have LAN?

anyone boughted this?

>>718092962
I literally look like this as a guy and no one has ever called me sexy.

>>718092660
thx for the answer, i keep putting off finishing dow 2

>>718091709 (OP)
>18.-
Not bad. Guess I'm going on a nostalgia trip.

>>718093091
pink or blue?

>>718093181
I pirateided

>>718093342
Two pinks then they split and she gets quadruple fucked by the blues

>>718091709 (OP)
How the hell do you install new skirmish maps? they don't appear when i put them to mods folder or DXP2\Data\scenarios\mp. Don't tell me i have to play mp to use custom maps.

WE CAIPTERED FOR KAIIIOUUS

>>718092965
>>718092974
You really need to stop embarrassing yourself. They stretched the background to make it wider because they couldn't figure out how to upscale the UI to the new widescreen resolutions. Stop posting your braindead pajeets.

>>718093484
we are so back

>>718092523
All that empty real estate on the sides is kinda retarded imo. I would push the ui elements to the side

>>718093406
damn

>>718093484
Playing chaos makes me wish they updated the defiler model

>>718093181
I redeemed sar and you too should do the needful

How does he see what's going on to his sides?

>>718092523
I don't know why you proved anon's point for him, but he's right, they stretched it instead of redoing the UI.

>>718092695
just few more years and we will all die

>>718093342
For a moment I thought I was in the F-list thread...

pajeets and SEAmonkeys already begging for pirate lmao

>>718093726
by looking left and right just like everyone else retard

>>718093396
>-1 lost sale
where are your morals? the company is going to go bankrupt

Lazy cash grab shill thread

>>718093996
And I am going to piratededed again to make them lose another sale

Forgot you get a tank in the first mission. Misses every orc, but oneshots buildings.

>>718093914
>vote with your wallet! DIE DEI!
>uh, whats t-that, DOW remaster? H-hey guys do you have a torrent please?

>>718093513
Stretching is when you use a picture in an unsupported resolution and enlarge it to fit the screen, making it look like shit
Adding new visuals to a picture to make it fit the screen at the correct resolution is not stretching, and is a good thing

>>718094163
I bought the DOW complete edition box set 38 years ago I am now forever entitled to play this game in all its permutations

>camera still retarded
hehe

>>718094312
>DOW game out 59 years ago

kek, wonder how this looks

Blood Ravens are going to end up being the most recognisable Astartes among people new to 40k, even more than Ultramarines

>>718092719
>32.7gb of spicy children
HOLY/DONT DOWNLOAD

can i play dark crusade multiplayer in the definitive edition?

How is the pathfinding?

>remaster is a success
damn doomers lost hard
again

>>718094561
improved

>>718092523
based disinfo corrector

>>718094612
Bros....... not like this.....

>>718094561
new the paths are being found

>>718094561
Sightly better but nothing amazing desu.

>>718094561
better, especially with larger crowds, not perfect tho, vehicles still have occasional shit happen but they said they are working on it

Ultimate apocalypse is too bloated and I really liked shadows over kaurava, but it's dark crusade only
does someone know if sok was ported to soulstorm?

ALL GUARDSMEN
FOLLOW ME TO GLORY

>>718094561
Markerlight'd

>>718093914
based third-worlders staying off my servers, enyoy!

>>718094065
NO
DO NOT DO THAT

>>718094867
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dawn-of-warhammer-40k-firestorm-over-kronus

It's ass. I prefer
https://www.moddb.com/mods/eranthis-project
or if you're a sweaty
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dowpro

How does skirmish work if it's all games in 1?
Each expansion pack reworked a bunch of mechanics like how stealth is always on in dark crusade, limit to termies, land raiders or kasrkins, or scarabs are now flying units etc.
What expansion pack's ruleset does the definitive edition use? Or can I select it? I want more than 1 whirlwind and I want my force commander model to be gabe instead of boreale.

>>718094065
please do not make the torrent more popular and therefore entice more people to buy the game and get frequent updates and play on official servers noooooo

>>718095036
it's soulstorm last patch

>>718091709 (OP)
Zoomerbro here should I buy this? Is the single player good? Is the PvP worth anything?

any good gooner mods out for this game? never played the original and thinking of picking this up.

more corpses

>>718095175
unification

>>718095132
fucking YUCK, I'll pass.

>>718095036
for skirmish, they showed in a trailer you can select different expansions.

>>718093726
Emperor guides him

>>718095210
SHOW ME WHAT PASSES FOR FURY AMONG YOUR MISBEGOTTEN KIND

I'm pretty sure this didn't happen in the og game, the attached servo skull is faster than the squad and runs ahead by a mile.

>>718095416
Might give it a pirate then. Guess this anon >>718095132 was talking out of his ass?

>>718092719
claim this for the chapter

>>718095390
oh man, i could really go for a lho stick right about now

>>718095153
Yes
9 factions, all cool as fuck, gigantic number of unique kill animations, epic one-liners to recite with your 4chan bros

Single player is fun, either a standard RTS campain with a meh story or an RPG-lite boardgame where you must beat all other factions while equipping new gear to make your heroes op as fuck

Multiplayer well I dunno, it will depend on the success of the remaster. It's good in itself, I mean it's a RTS, you play matches and that's it.

back when the tabletop was good

>>718095527
Could you even attach servo skulls? But I'm afrait it did happen in the og as well. I remember my captain being fast as shit with upgrades and running ahead of his squad.

>>718095641
oh shit. i guess i was misled by the trailer. several steam reviews say you can only play soulstorm. RIP to me too i guess since i hate SS over DC.

>>718095839
THIRD
H
I
R
D

and a little of fourth

>>718095932
You could, they're SM's other mobile detector unit besides the Libby hero. They should slow down to match the squad they're attached to however.

>mostly negative
It's over....

bruh what is this optimization game runs like total ass

>>718096121
You must live in the Warp, mostly positive for me

>>718092719
> game is about to get infested with thirdworlders

well it was a good one hour if only white men playing the game.

>>718092523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGiNE-FmrLM

>>718094163
I am voting. Remasters don't deserve my money. They have to make something new if they want that.

>>718096270
Newfags don't remember the good old days of twelve minutes after launch. Take me back...

>>718096398
Show me a new game you bought recently.

>>718096121
Not like this..........

What faction to play in the campaign first?

>>718095527
dunno if this is cope but it may have been one of the minor balance changes, gives the unit a built in scout in a weird way

I'm kinda tempted but i also don't know if i will play it anytime soon. Doesn't look like it has achievements. 17 euro is not a bad price.

>>718095641
You and >>718095416
Both mentally retarded, especially you for believing there would be 4 different patches in a single game, the game is locked to soulstorm patch, in skirmish you can't chose anything but the map as usual, when you go into campaign you are prompted asking what single player campaign you want to play and nothing more.

>>718096121
incorrect

>>718096560
Marines, duh.

>>718096398
Seconded. I would consider buying a DoW4 (so long as it is good and nothing like 3), but I have no reason to buy a game I already own again. Especially bot when the graphics aren't improved and nothing has been added.

>>718096560
Orks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QDcCHvzU2w

>>718096737
i revised my statement >>718095970. man, that really sucks. i hated the new factions in soul storm and really hated air vehicles.

>>718096681
That is ultra cope, the skull is super fragile and you need to purchase it from the listening posts, if that thing goes alone in front it's getting one shotted by the first salvo and then you get buttraped by invisible CSM.

>>718096698
>Doesn't look like it has achievements
It's from the era when you'd be mocked by chasing achievements. I miss it.

Oldcrons my beloved

>>718096737
Being able to select a ruleset based on each individual game would have been nice.

>>718096737
Then this remaster is worth nothing.

>>718096883
Yeah. I don't really care for that feature. I just don't know if aside of graphics upgrade is there anything else that would make me want to drop 17 euro right now. I just hear out a few reviews first. Kinda wish there was a demo to try it. I guess technically torrent exists for that.

>>718096785
I don't think I've ever actually done an ork campaign in DC or SS (or I did, but it was more than a decade ago so I've forgotten), so that actually sounds like a pretty good idea.

>>718096560
Crons

nothing is happening on the screen

>53fps

nice remaster bro

>>718097179
Post specs

Blood Ravens, hear me! I am Araghast The Pillager! Master of Hounds, the Lash of the Black Legion! You, and ALL your kind are COWARDS! LOWLY LICKSPITTLES! You must be emulating that pathetic pile of bones you call your Emperor! You are as dead and as useless as him! I am destroying your worlds, Blood Ravens, yet you do nothing! I see your precious craft, hanging in orbit above Aurelia! I AM HERE! FACE ME, IF YOU DARE!!!

>>718097179
>ram 24gb
wha

I will wait until reviews are out
Also I read that you can't pick which expansion you will play on skirmish and it's always soulstorm

>>718097179
There it is. The post I've bren waiting for. I knew this bloated scam was going to have mysterious and inexplicable new performance problems. Fucking AI generated pajeet trash with uncompressed audio and couldn't run on PC's that ran the original despite no graphical improvements, as usual.

>>718097179
>firect 9
either try some wrapper or dxvk

>>718093726
that's what the guardsmen are for

>>718097179
They're preserving the original experience

I was right, incompetent fucks lol.

>>718097179
I'm getting huge FPS drops when I have a lot of units fighting on the edge of the screen.

>>718097637
So they did nothing at all? All their shill spam about pathfinding and its not any different than before (which is funny anyway since it was never much of an issue to begin with)

>>718097637
Why is there a blur around the marines? Also why do they look CGI'd in?

>>718097637
Grim

Why would this game need a remaster? The graphics have aged gracefully.

>>718097758
>>718097775
No this is the og, blur may be because I'm a lazy fuck and didn't want to convert the original video, point is about this >>718095527

>>718097817
Maybe microshart ran through OS a bit too fast and now games don't run?

>>718097817
desu it didn't need a remaster just a source code fix to allow 64bit compatibility so mods that introduce a lot of new assets don't need hacky ways to have you load 3gb or more of them, which this new version does but it's not worth the money and also the performance is kinda shit but that is expected by nu-relic.

so cinematic!

>>718092523
The planets now look like polished turds.

>>718097758
>>718097775
holy retardation

>>718098038
>>718097179
Jesus Christ, what spec do you have?

>>718097817
The truth is that it didn't. It runs perfectly on modern machines and has never had compatibility issues with any OS of the last two decades. The graphics hold up well enough due to the art style and plenty of mods exist to improve graphics, lighting, etc if you so choose.

>>718097293
rx 5700 xt + i7 12700k + 32gb ram, game is on ssd ofc

>>718098038
its over

>>718097817
>The graphics have aged gracefully.
No, they did not lol. DoW2 still looks and sounds amazing. But DoW1 already had an issue back then with newer faction like Tau and Necrons utterly mogging OGs like Marines and Eldar with quality of their units which in turn made game look inconsistent. On top of this base game and winter assault resolution and UI looked bad as well.

Not like this remaster actually fixes all of this, since they would need to overhaul meshes and animations instead of just upscaling textures via AI

>777 fps in menu
>24 fps in combat at tier 2 with just 2 vehicles and 5 infantry squads
i want a refund

>>718098038
I bet it's the fucking UI that lags the game.

apparently i own the originals and have never played them
is the DE worth $18 or whatever if im just gonna play singleplayer
how long is the campaign

>>718098337
Fucking lmao

Fell for it again award for every retard here who believed the shills

>>718098421
i dunno it's like game stops using my gpu when there is something happening on the screen

test

what the fuck no way it looked like this https://youtu.be/SQTXEfMVMr4?t=211

>>718098426
It's 4 campaigns in total so the game is pretty long, whenever you buy the demake or play the anniversary edition, The only thing you need to do if you want to play the original is to download the camera mods, which lets you zoom out to decent levels.

>>718098498
look into the comment section

>no cheevos
what the fucck were they thinking

>>718091709 (OP)
Read pathing was improved? Is this true?
Is it worth $18? Or nah
Kinda resistant because of the fliers from soulstorm; do mods work?

>>718098498
that dipshit is a lying normie that never played dow before and just installed game for the first time and did lazy comparison with default settings. I want to send that motherfucker to gulag. You can even make high textures to even sharper with some ini edits from what i remember

>>718098426
Campaign is fairly decent, early 2000's RTS gameplay

>>718098598
>Read pathing was improved? Is this true?
yes, it is a little bit better
>Is it worth $18? Or nah
no, just pirate it, unless you want to play MP for the 2 weeks it will last, then sure you can buy it.
>Kinda resistant because of the fliers from soulstorm; do mods work?
I'm not gonna try mods yet but UA devs said it is compatible and mods in general should work, though I'd rather wait a few weeks for people to fully update the mods anyway.

>>718098598
>Read pathing was improved? Is this true?
Yeah it's true, at least for tier 1/2 haven't reached tier 3 as i destroy ai way too fast so it may get messy with larger units like that big animal of orcs or landrider

do chaos marines have new recruits or are they all horus era gigachad veterans?

>>718098426
Just play the original, don't waste your money on this, especially if you don't even know if you'll like it. There are 4 campaigns, the original and Winter Assault are the best imo since they have proper missions and cutscenes, while Dark Crusade and Soulstorm are just conquest maps where you fight tons of regular skirmish battles to take over the sectors.

>>718098038
>>718097179
>>718096202
>direct fucking 9
Great remaster!

>>718098802
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Daemonculaba

>>718098498
>PSA: In the visual comparison I clearly used the wrong clip for the original Dawn of War with settings on low instead of high - my bad! Everything I say still stands, but obviously it's not quite as drastic as the comparison may lead you to believe :)
he just made an oppsie :)

>>718098802
Depends on the chapter. Some chapters have replaced the souls of their Astartes so they respawn in the Warp when killed. Others breach the Materium to abduct human conscripts as both slaves and to implant recovered gene seed into to create new Marines.

>>718098802
yes, each chaos legion has the only method of recruitment, for example deathguard recruit their numbers from the barbarians that live on their chaos world.

>>718094981
I WILL PIRATEIDED ONE MORE TIME DONT TRY ME

>>718093484
>>718093635
spleenbros....

>>718098745
>>718098757
I'd want to play multiplayer, which is why I'm concerned with the fliers.
If I did open matches, can you disable the fliers?

Pathing fixes might be worth $18, esp for some of the better classic mods.

>>718098802
Various methods of recruitment and replenishment, usually unwilling.

>Corrupt loyalist marines or chapters to join them
>Abduct humans from various planets and do experiments on them with gene seed to create new marines
>Bind their souls to the warp so that they get resurrected whenever they die
>Take volunteer cultists or barbarians from worlds in the warp
>In the case of the Thousand Sons, just repair their armor and trap a soul back inside

>>718099147
>can you disable the fliers
No. Multiplayer is Soulstorm only.

>>718095153
The OG were GOAT, judging by these comments it looks like a successful "definitive edition". I will get it after some expected patching

it's EXTREAMLY obvious that Relic devs are here trying to get people to buy this bloatslop

WE ARR KAAIIIOUUUS KAAAIIIOUUUS'S STRANG

does Eliphas at least aim at the demon after you defeat chaos stronghold?

can an anon make a webm of a guardsman getting executed in the remaster?

>>718099360
They've been spamming these threads for a week or two, and it's very easy to tell their posts because they always bring up irrelevant things like "pathfinding" or "64bit support" as if the originals ever had those issues to begin with. Its bizarre that they tried to sell scam based on utter lies about the original version for some reason.

>>718099675
>"pathfinding" or "64bit support" as if the originals ever had those issues to begin with
Well yeah, they were an issue in original and it's expansions. Insinuating otherwise is some absurd revisionism

>>718099360
relic dev here, can confirm

>>718099918
No. The revisionism is the shill gaslighting about those being important additions or fixes when it was never anything that was needed or missing.

>>718099360
This!!!

>>718099918
64bit support yeah, but pathfinding has been dogshit in ALL of relic games and has never significantly improved,.

>>718099360
>>718099675
People actually believe this

>>718097570
>either try some wrapper or dxvk

use dxvk they said

LMAO this version of a game is completely fucked no matter what you do

>>718093513
Holy retard, just admit you are wrong

Enemies. WE NEED ENEMIES

>>718099918
You've been trolling spewing shit that is wrong in every thread. You're not mentally well.

>>718096737
lmao, into the trash it goes
>believing there would be 4 different patches in a single game
nigga did the devs sit on their asses all day then, doing nothing?
im expecting the content of all 4 games if they ask for that much money, but they're only giving us soulstorm's skirmish
shameful display from their part to be frank with ya

>black legion wank even back then
gw never got it through there heads that nobody likes these fags give me a solid chaos chapter

>>718100007
Works on my machine :)

WE NEED A NEW DRIVER THIS ONE IS DEAD

>>718100189
At cinematic 24fps as soon as you spawn a single predator and a single defiler. I guess we don't have technology yet to render it at 144fps

>>718099675
you can't convice me this >>718092523 isn't a pajeet flexing his "round planets" contribution

>>718100306
>we don't have the technology yet to properly run a 20 year old game that ran just fine before today

kek. They could not have fucked up and ruined this game harder if they tried.

>>718100306
I get 144fps dips down to 140 with fights

>>718100007
I saw someone say shadows are bugged or something and it really kills your performance.

16:9 btw

>>718099973
>>718100146
https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/1380687/#q1451779
>random post long before DoW remastered announcement
>complains about pathfinding

You can shit on remaster without lying about improved pathfinding and 64bit support not being a requested features for original game for ages. It's deranged to commit blatant revisionism like this just for the sake of old good, new bad meme

>Demaster releases
>Now Youtube algorithm has flooded the front page with literal who gaming channels no one has ever seen before reviewing it out of nowhere

What an embarrassing shill campaign. Genuinely.

>>718100172
This. Are they using the latest Soulstorm patch for the first three campaigns too? If yes, that's crazy fucked, and if not, then they clearly have access to the code and they could have EASILY made it a selectable option in the skirmish menu. Holy shit. Everybody who defends or shills for this can jump into an endless pit.

>>718100610
people who say pathing is fine never played the game

>>718100442
You weren't kidding. Any setting of shadows = fps drops. No shadows = good fps

Left = shadows on highest, right = no shadows.

How incompetent they can be?

>>718100610
>post from 2 years ago is proof that this always existed

Actually, no. Show me posts from 20 years ago talking about it. Oh right, you can't, because it was never an issue. That post you linked was probably one of the devs who worked on this cash grab demaster trying to set the stage for the very gaslighting you are doing right now.

Test number two. Any setting other than shadows off = way less fps. In this case 100 less fps

We've been living in a world where games get patched whenever bugs they didn't catch or couldn't fix before release slip through and yet we still get retards acting like the developers raped their dog every time it happens.
What causes this mental illness?

>>718100665
If you tell me what differences to look for in the campaign I can check. I'm not familiar enough with the differences between games to know myself.

>>718097637
what exactly is the problem here??

>>718100796
It's not really incompetence (I think), it's just how games were back then. Shadows were the huge CPU killer back in the day.

>>718100665
what differences are there between versions?

>>718100665
No or at least I can tell right away because Marine Scouts only get 2 sniper rifles and can't attack while stealthed which got changed in Dark Crusade I think, maybe some less obvious stuff has been changed behind the scenes

>>718101160
look
>>718095527

It's over

>>718100872
take your meds anon

>>718101306
it never really begun...

>>718101171
Mate we are in 2025 my cpu could run old dow.exe in 20 separate instances, and demaster barely uses my cpu cores. Look at the gpu usage it's not cpu issue but gpu

SPESS MEHREENS

WE HAVE FEHLED

THE EMPRAH

>>718101090
We've been living in a world where games from 30 years ago are superior in performance, features, price and coding, this is the only industry that the more technology develop the worse it becomes, these devs should be beheaded for their incompetence.

>>718100601
>>718092523
>>718100796
This is horrible. They did nothing to update the menu elements for widescreen, they just left in the default assets and extended the sides of the screen.
>>718097179
Solving the in-game UI by cleaving it into half is also the laziest attempt I've ever seen.
An anon yesterday made a far better take on how to do the UI in Photoshop than what these "devs" have managed to shit out.

>>718100872
Stop being utterly retarded. This post is from may 2023. You can go through archive and see people complaining about this in DoW since forever.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/42/#q13569
https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/200122/#q200643
Are those anons from fucking 2020 as well secret lelic employees taking part in some grand conspiracy?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/4570/discussions/0/846942156153214697/
Or this random steam user from 2013?

>78% positive an hour after release
>74% positive now
It's so fucking over.

>>718101623
Good. I hope it drops to mostly negative and everyone who fell for this scam refunds it. Hopefully these shills finally fuck off now.

>>718101623
>fell for it again

>>718099360
buy?

Should I buy it for online multiplayer?

We rost.....
The emperor has abandoned us......

Anyone else having the same issue of classic DoW where the AI just kind of "gives up" into a long match, like maybe half an hour-hour in and stops really building anything?

>>718100872
It was an issue, that fucking map right before the Eldar stronghold or the ork base with the squigs in the vanilla campaign. Fucking painfully bad. One of the longest running jokes about relic along my friend group is
>relic vehicles
When a game has bad path finding we just invoke relic vehicles, it was that bad.
I don't know why you are autismilating about this when they didn't fix the damn pathfinding in the remaster, so I'm not going to buy it.

how many new women and black models in demake?

>>718096121
>multiplayer is the only thing having issues
dont care. I only want to play single player

>>718102128
All Relic RTS' are like this. I remember if you turtle hard enough in Company of Heroes for a while the AI just gives up and you can easily come back to crush them, if they had you on the backfoot for 30 minutes to an hour.

>>718091709 (OP)
>Witch Hunters mod never came out.
Kills my soul.

>>718102128
sounds like normal dow behavior
nice to see they didn't fix shit

>>718094561
they have pathfinding improvements listed as a post-launch to do on the steam forums

>>718094561
As good as it always was, because it was never an issue.

>>718102128
What I kept experiencing is the AI gives up after one or two failed pushes. I don't know how you would stop this from happening other than letting the AI push you back. I've read, but never tried to confirm, that the AI knows how many units you have at all times so if it knows it can't win it won't do anything. The trick I read was to garrison your units in vehicles or buildings to get them to attack because they can't see units placed there.

>>718102128
Their scripted build order doesn't loop. Warcraft 3 did the same thing where you could just wait out the AI's actions and then walk in and kill them.

I bought the game but Steam won't download it :'(

Scammed

>>718101404
>this is the only industry that the more technology develop the worse it becomes
Boy do I wish that were true. Software getting worse is the rule, not the exception.

>>718102128
Hoped they would fix this but still there, Orks don't really build anything, they try rush once or twice but if it fails, they just like stop even trying. Chaos seems pretty aggressive, Dark Eldar seem to still just sit around doing nothing beyond an initial rush with bullshit invisible guys.
Hopefully mods can fix this one fast.

>>718102380
Actually, I may be wrong. Looks like it was part of the Dawn of War Unification Mod.

ultra picturatic 18fps i hope we will go even lower

>>718102128
Depends, Eldar in DC are relentless and constantly build extra bases in annihilation/campaign.

>>718101429
>An anon yesterday
That was me lamo, thanks for the shoutout. Fixed picrel in 2 minutes, I'll give the Soulstorm galaxy map a go too, just cause I've nothing better to do.

>>718091709 (OP)
So how is it? Worth buying or should I wait for patches?

>>718102310
Yep, exact same in Company of Heroes 2, if you just turtle the AI stops playing a bit in and you can just roll in, sometimes their units don't even react to combat.

>>718103063
Wait and see. The mods haven't come through yet despite the advertising.

>>718091709 (OP)
driver status???

>>718102128
The AI is designed to attack a certain amount of times, and decide what to do next depending on its success level and after a certain amount just gives up because of that

>>718103149
forums say mod support not until september...

>>718103063
Dogshit cash grab scam. Downgraded AI generated graphics, worse performance, bigger bloated install size, no new content and nothing has been changed or improved.

>>718102380
>>718102825
Yeah it did. I'm pretty sure even before Soulstorm or alongside with it since people were mocking how much of a lazy IG/SM reskin were Soulstorm bolter bitches. It was one of the more popular mods and now is in Unification.
Everything is in Unification... including a lot of stuff that shouldn't be

>>718091709 (OP)
By the emperor, i might actually buy this

I'm not paying $20 for a cheap cash grab from a dead studio
mods have given me everything on offer for years now

>>718102702
Windows 7 problem. The data compression algorithm was changed and it's now incompatible.

>>718103027
Hey, good stuff anon.

>modern remake of a beloved classic
Tell me what's wrong with it before I drop money.

DoW skirmish AI has a specific tipping point wherein it "gives up".
Specifically, if the AI detects that you have numerical superiority of over half the map, it will keep giving ground to its own detriment. It will go so far as putting units behind its own base to preserve them at the cost of the base dying.
To see it in action, disable fog of war, play a small enclosed map like 1v1 valley of khorne, and observe how the AI directly adjusts to the positioning of your units, and has a tipping point of when it'll fully send their army, send one or two skirmishing units, or stay put (they act this way even with fog of war). Note that it also acts on other factors like AI difficulty, your/their tech level, resource imbalance, time, etc.
To stop/avoid it, you can do a few things.
Not have numerical superiority (ill advised at higher levels, you will get swarmed eventually due to AI just producing more units)
Deceive the AI. This can be done by loading your troops in transports/buildings/deep strike, moving them to the back of your base, or otherwise not having a lot of stuff in the center.
Play different game modes. Survival in particular has "waves" that bypass normal skirmish AI by targeting specific objectives on the map alongside regular AI units, which ends with the AI only pushing forward.
This AI limitation has been in the game for a while, and is extremely hard to actually code out. It's a small miracle that modders were able to fix units not bumping into each other while walking around corners mostly (that's what "advanced" AI options usually do in mods, improved pathing, actually using abilities, not building themselves into a corner, etc.). DoW remastered is unlikely to fix turtling, but one can dream that a modder will eventually fix it, especially if the DoW remastered has dev tools for modding.

>>718103408
>remake

lol. If only. It's the exact same game repackaged and sold again. They did nothing to it except ruin performance and run some decals and unit/building pictures through AI.

>>718103216
that's not what the forum says at all.....

>>718103882
https://steamcommunity.com/app/3556750/discussions/1/591779517900522135/

Post Launch Support
Patch 2 – Modding – Target: Early September
Update file load order to allow for additional customization of the User Interface
Improved modding documentation based on frequently asked questions and a sample mod
Additional support to ensure stability of mod usage

>>718103149
Unification works. It just needs to be updated to take advantage of wide screen.

is there any point in attaching my commander to my space marines? it seems like he just stands behind and does absolutely nothing when I issue an attack command

>>718095390
So what's that guy backstory? Loyalist turn traitor or a member of the traitor legions from the start?

>>718103948
it just says they'll provide more documentation and aid to modders. the game is as open to mods as it was before. it's the same engine, that's why it has performance issues with the new graphics lol

I’Z DED ‘ARD AN REDDY FER STOMPIN’!

>>718094561
Fucking awful
Using attack move with multiple units will completely break their pathfinding sending some units backwards, others stand still and the rest of your forces splinters into groups that do go to correct destination but across different paths

>>718103960
Looks like I'll be waiting a while for UA and the Nids then.

Bale doesn't look much better, Sindri looks ok but he's not the one right in the camera

>>718094561
amazing as always

>>718103967
he cant be directly targeted so more survivability. some commanders buff the squad iirc

>>718104302
*Disgusting snort* "THIS DELAY!

>>718103967
higher morale

>>718101280
but the original post and the webm contradict each other. on the one hand im told the servo skull goes way ahead then im shown a webm of it staying in formation with the squad?

amazing ai and pathfinding Relic totally fixed EVERYTHING

>>718103967
Set the squad to melee stance otherwise he'll just try to shoot with his pistol

>>718104510
The picture is the remaster which shows the servoskull breaking formation. The webm is the original game which shows the servoskull working correctly.

>>718101071
Can confirm, shadows are beyond fucked, I'm on a 5800x3d and a 7900xtx and when there's fighting going on, or more than a couple units in view, it drops from a solid 165fps down to 30-40 and looks like complete shit. Only fix is to turn shadows off, which also looks like complete shit.

>>718103967
Stat buffs mostly. Commanders are more useful for drawing aggro while your units mop up the rest.

>>718102774
UA doesn't have this issue at all, the AI is consistently aggressive. Dunno about Uni

>>718102879
I hoped the stuttering in their own fucking trailer was a fluke, but no. They must have known about the performance issues

just played a couple of skirmish games
aside from shadows i can't tell what's remastered about this

>>718103967
Most commanders will want to join melee units. There are some that focus more on buffing the unit they're with though, or like using abilities from a safe distance. For example, for space marines, apothecaries and librarians don't mind joining ranged units (apothecaries because their healing aura is what's important and libbys because they're weaker in melee than the force commander and like standing back and nuking people).

>>718104884
>what's remastered about this
the price tag

>>718091709 (OP)
Hey just looking for opinion, should Warhammer have it's own board?

>>718091709 (OP)
>no hotkey customization, just 3 presets
>can't even find the LUA file to edit like in the original (not like this should be required in a fucking 30$ "definitive edition")
yeah, I definitely want half my important hotkeys to be stupid shit like ctrl+f6 without me being able to change it

also why the fuck does setting shadows even to low make the game run like absolute shit for me. Sure I have a toaster but I can literally max out every other setting and the game runs fine, but setting the shadows even just to low drops my fps to like sub10
I can't even use the minimalistic shadows original DoW had, the game literally just looks worse and runs worse now.

also why the fuck does this shit take like 20GB, the original barely took a couple
this definitive version is fucking shit

>>718101429
Here's the one for Soulstorm, got lazy so it looks a bit shit but it's just a concept on how I'd have aligned it.

>>718102128
Vanilla AI is really REALLY ABSURDLY LEGENDARILY bad.
DoWAI was a necessary mod for a good reason.

>>718104548
why can't pajeet codemonkeys do anything right?

>>718105104
Don't worry they just launched their Early access game :)

>>718104884
>aside from shadows i can't tell what's remastered about this
The performance at higher levels if anyone can actually get the mods to load in. The basegame numbers were always anemic as shit. If it still crashes in UA with the barely 33% buff to the unit caps then it isn't worth buying until they fix it. I wouldn't count on 5v5 skirmishes being consistent either when they were barely usable in the original version.

>>718104884
pretty ground ai texture

>>718105018
The game is 4 games in one. All four of them take 15 GB together.

>>718103027
>>718105035
better than what we got, good job
I wonder why they couldn't figure these out themselves

what were those idiots doing? so much of QA and couldn't find out issues with performance and ai????

>>718091709 (OP)
This is pretty shitty. The already-own-it discount should be permanent, not a limited time offer.

>>718105480
>Romanians
hm
they were probably too busy stealing scrap iron from their neighbor

>>718105564
thats the extra 10% thats limited

>>718105035
That looks great. I can't believe the retards who worked on this just stretched the background to fit instead of doing this to improve the UI.

>>718105480
Should have hired indians.
>>718105564
The already own in discount is 30% It is permanent. It's the edition you are looking at. There is an additional 10% off launch discount.

You will receive new equipment if you fulfill one of the following conditions:
Everything except the first point can be viewed in the "Commander" section.
1) For a 3-to-1 kill ratio (3 to 1 ratio of kills to deaths of units in any campaign battle, but you need to kill at least 200 units. Kill 3 times more than the enemy).
2) For 1 win.
3) For 5 victories.
4) For 15 victories.
5) For 2000 killed.
6) For 5000 killed.
7) For 3 defeated opponents (for 3 destroyed races).
8) For 1 successful defensive operation (you won’t get anything for auto battle).
9) For 3 successful defensive operations.
10) For 5 successful defensive operations.

>>718105675
>>718105735
Thank you for clarifying that.
I think I will wait a little and see before buying this then.

>>718099147
they plan to add a setting to lobby hosters to disable air vehicles in the future lol

>>718105419
you are right about that, doesn't change the fact that it was enough to keep soulstorm installed for multiplayer after I was done with the campaigns in the others. Now there is no option to not have all of them always installed and hogging space on my SSD. Regardless this is the least of my issues. The biggest one is, why the fuck is this game such a powerhog for such a minimal visual improvement. I can almost max out SC2 and run it smoothly, meanwhile just adding the tiniest of shadows in dowDE makes the game unplayable

>>718105480
QA finds the issues, but then the company has to care to fix them. Those are two very different things.

>>718105471
>>718105694
Thanks anons, glad you like the edits. Their incompetence bothers me a lot too, only their army painter, DOW1 campaign briefings and skirmish screens look correct to me.
>their in-game interfaces for each race look fucked
>their loading screens look fucked
>their world maps for DC and SS look fucked
Even the MAIN MENU looks off, could have just made that object to align to the right damnit. They did it correctly for the army painter for chrissake.
I know it's nitpicky but holy hell, gamers are not holding game developers to any standard whatsoever.

>thunder hammer randomly shows up early in the story and then disappears
lol what

>>718106909
I think the biggest problem is that PC gaming has become so inundated with people who just assume old games won't work on their modern machine so they immediately fall prey to these FOMO cash grab "remaster" scams instead of just checking for themselves. There is absolutely zero reason to bother with this product if you have the original readily available to play. It's the same game with no effort put in to actually meet the criteria of a remaster.

>>718107127
>Marine player gets caught breaking WYSIWYG, forced to correct HQ loadout

>>718093914
As a third worlder I pirated a lot as a kid and on my early teens because I didn't have money. Now I work, I have money and pay for every game I like. Pirate every game I want to try and buy it if it's good or uninstall it if it's trash.
Paying for everything is stupid.
Not supporting companies that make games you like is beyond retarded.
I would buy my groceries from FromSoftware if I could.
I even bought Fires of Rubicon and Sekiro and didn't even play them.

>>718102310
>>718103085
drives me insane in team AI games since the ally AI seems to give up way before the enemy AI does

>>718107259
Play AC6 instead of letting if grab dust, it's very fun and better than all the souls slop they published in the last few years.

>>718094561
Brood War dragoons tier

Important question
Is the Ork commander in DC still bugged? More especially the wargear that makes him do headbutts that do damage in an area but will damage him and other Orks
Do stronghold missions still randomly crash?
How is the pathfinding for vehicles?

>>718105480
>Pee-EU third-worlders
Figures

your lowest framerate so far?

did the original have persistent dead bodies?

>>718107174
I'm not even sure why those sorts of people are playing on PC to begin with if they fail to do any basic troubleshooting to get games running.
Sad to see more re-whatevers being announced (which turn out inferior every time) than original IPs or sequels because of both dev and gamer complacency.

>>718107127
Space Marine player realised his army list was 2005 points and had to make a last minute adjustment

>fixed pathfinding
these dumb AI controlled whores kept shuffling around until the game ended, unable to capture the relic

I feel like Dawn of War fans are the dumbest 40k fans. Can anyone prove me wrong?

>>718107658
It's easy and cheap for these companies to literally just take an existing game, make no changes, and slap a "DEFINITIVE EDITION HD REMASTER" on the title to trick idiots into thinking they are getting a fresh new version of it. It essentially cost Relic nothing to do this, and now they get to sell a 20 year old game that was basically $5-$10 nowadays for $30 again as if it were new. It's scummy and anyone with any sense can see right through it, but in the past 5 years there has been a mass exodus of console normies to PC who just don't really get it.

So might be weird. But did they "reeemastered" DE voices?

>>718107370
Don't know about the ork sorry
I had no crashes yet but I've only played for 2 hours or so and I don't want to praise it too early
The pathfinding is atrocious. There is no improvement compared to the original, if any change was made at all it was a downgrade

gotta feel bad for anyone who actually spent money on this instead of pirating to come to the common conclusion a modern """remaster""" is lazy dogshit

>remaster
>no ray tracing

I need a reason for my 5090

>>718107896
No. /v/'s Dark Crusade dickriders are perpetually trapped in 2006 and think the pinnacle of 40k are somehow the Imperial Guard (which they aren't even called anymore) and the Tau (which basically don't even exist in the lore and tabletop anymore). It's usually quite embarrassing to deal with DoW1 fans, especially when DoW2 is and has always been such a massively superior game in every way.

>>718108006
no

>>718107174
who can blame them? zoomers and gen a are absolutely retarded and have no clue about a thing about PC gaming they just migrated from consoles

>>718108081
>expects raytracing on an engine from 1998
anon it's all CPU
>>718108014
>The pathfinding is atrocious. There is no improvement compared to the original, if any change was made at all it was a downgrade
objectively incorrect, masses of units can find their way around obstacles much better.

>>718108104
:(

>>718108096
2 was shit in comparison

>>718108081
You need a reason to live more than you need a reason for a 5090

I missed old Eliphas, the new voice was not bad but they should have made a new character.

>>718107903
>in the past 5 years there has been a mass exodus of console normies to PC

This is so true it hurts. Everyone I know irl used to be exclusively Xbox gamers. But during covid around when the PS5/Xbox Series X released they all decided to switch to PC instead. But all they generally do on PC is what they already did on Xbox, which is buy Call of Duty, Madden, and NBA 2k every year. And still using the Xbox controller because mouse and keyboard in COD filtered them so goddamn hard that they refuse to even try it for anything else.

>>718108096
whoa you mean a shitty ruined boomer franchise like 40k that only sells because of gamer dads who paint figurines has people stuck in the past when it was at least somewhat relevant and interesting as a property?

>>718107652
Yeah, though if you pushed it far enough (we're talking some retarded hour-long massacres), it would end up filling all the allocated memory and crash the game.

>>718108096
>>718108096
>(which they aren't even called anymore)
what happened

>>718108660
Their official name is Astra Militarum nowadays

I just wanted a good way to play the OG games without stretching at 16:9

>>718108660
>>718108859
And the Eldar and Dark Eldar are the Aeldari and Drukhari respectively now.

>>718108660
GW couldnt copyright imperial guard, space marines, eldar etc. so they made shitty names up for them

>>718108660
GW couldn't own the term 'Imperial Guard' so they came up with 'Astra Militarum' to replace it.

>>718108174
>masses of units can find their way around obstacles much better.
Hard disagree I've had problems on every map I played so far
Single units or batches of 2 work very well in the remaster but any larger group or any mixed group of infantry and vehicles immediately breaks the system

So the remaster is okay unless you activate shadows, and you have to babysit some units pathing the correct way?

>>718108660
schizo trying to force GW meme copyright names nobody uses

>>718108096
>dark crusade dick riders
i just dont like air vehicles. when they finally add the lobby setting to turn them off (which they mention on their discord) then i'll probably be fine with it.

>>718107652
hell yea
picrel isn't even that much, in some maps you saw way more

>>718108096
>the Imperial Guard (which they aren't even called anymore)

>>718107652
yes

Is there any balancing in the game from OG or is it totally pointless to play because soulstorm exists?

>>718108096
wtf are you talking about, Tau still exist

>>718109335
>16:9 without stretching
how?

so what makes khorne the most based chaos god

>>718109371
Not really. They aren't relevant.

>>718109412
wasn't there a guide on the steam discussion page on how to do it? i think i had to modify some files, but it wasnt that bad iirc.

>>718109412
idk magic

>>718109485
They aren't around anymore bro...

>>718109371
The game is effectively divided into OG DoW 1 and WA/DC/SS. WA swapped out the hard counter system for a soft counter because relic gonna relic which effectively means - balance wise - SS is the best of the new system.

Simple skirmish on hard simply reminded me why i don't want to play as necrons. You get fucked by being constantly energy hungry and your lord dying all the time, and too slow mov speed of most of your units so you have to teleport like a bitch. I got wrecked hard by dark eldars that came right at time when i wiped out IG base.

>>718108096
>dow2 player pretends to have standards

>>718109412
menus still stretch if you look closely, but the in-engine 3d stuff can be fixed with some super basic ini & hex editing (which you can now do online and don't even need to download software for)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2552610755

>>718109164
Nothing about this even qualifies as a remaster, so no, it isn't "okay". It looks the same as the original and has way worse performance. Pathfinding was supposed to be something this fixed (even though the original never had any real issues with that) and instead it's either the same or worse. In effect, both things you've asked about are major downgrades from before and not things to overlook as justification to buy this.

>>718109485
Yes they are? They just expanded out of their immedate spheres because of a wormhole, the Farsight Enclaves have finally been left alone because of the gulf of damocles, and a god/warp entity showed up with a Tau face.

They also finally developed FTL travel, and it doesnt require moving through the warp.

>dow 2 superior
you have to be generous to call the game RTS
why didn't they copy blizzard/Westwood and other games by simply just mixing hero and building missions is a mystery to me

>>718109743
who the hell even invented the thought that pathfinding was bad in dow1 needs to be shot in the head for making shit up to sell people a shitty new slop
I never noticed problems with it in the original games either, it's literally some marketing slogan for this edition

>>718109818
Anon
All of that stuff is from 5+ years ago

>>718107174
The main appeal is moddability. Mod makers say they'll try to keep both versions up to date but given a choice between the two they're very likely to swap to the easier platform.

>>718110006
I feel like it was people who mainly played UA and filled the screen with 1000 guardsmen complaining

>>718110006
>who the hell even invented the thought that pathfinding was bad in dow1
Based secondary. Protip: broadsides used to come in units of 3.

>>718110060
No its literally from the codex that came out last year.

The warzone noctis stuff was literally only put into existance last year

Pathetic tourists who pretend to read the lore are so shameful

>>718108859
>>718108984
That sucks though.

>>718110370
not as much as primaris marines

>>718094867
Redux mod adds some units without bloating the game. Plus some new mechanics, for example chaos cultists can worship like DoW 2 were they give allies different buffs. And the new FX and Unit Portraits are pretty good

>>718110404
rent free

>Forced into Shartstorm balance
Eww no thanks

>>718097353
Open the PORTAL

>>718110404
>the tourist posts it again

Cawl keeps on winning

Jesus fucking Christ, that lazy AI upscaling in portraits is unacceptable.
The Chaos cultist's face is a mess for instance.

>>718109735
.damn I had no idea about this

refunding the remaster then, this is all I ever wanted from it and I thought it wasn't possible in the OG without minimap glitches

thanks anons

>>718110006
Exactly. I've been saying it for the past week. It was quite literally never an issue in the old games. The marketing for this remaster is pure gaslighting. They invented a bunch of issues to claim the old games had to pretend they created solutions for them. But nothing has changed because there was nothing to fix.

>>718110174
Pathing in UA is actually noticeably better than in the unmodded game

>>718110583
The new unit portrait for servitors makes them look like Salvador Dali tried to paint a spider. It's atrocious.

>>718110759
Why do you keep posting and lying. Why not do something productive like jerk off.

>>718110181
spoonfeed me then
despite dow being one of my first ever video games, I shall don the title of secondary to please you, and I'd like to be enlightened about this issue
only unit I ever noticed struggling was the squiggoth because his collision was ridiculously wide and turned slowly
>broadsides used to come in units of 3
I actually know that because I played from a burned dvd rom, but have no idea what that has to do with anything
as I said, pathfinding was never broken to the point where it was worthy of ever making it an issue

>>718104081
Crack open that ridiculous can

>>718110876
Case in point, one of the shills that wants to spread lies to farm FOMO

>>718110759
I've played and beaten all the games except Soulstorm (in Dark crusade I beaten the campaign with the Necrons, Tau, Eldar and Orks) and I promised you, from the bottom of my heart that the pathfinding was bad, specially for vehicles, may God have mercy on your patience if you want to play with more than 3 vehicles and combine them with your infantry

>>718109464
because he's honest. the other gods fuck you over but with him you either just kill or be killed.
meanwhile
>Slaanesh: cut your dick in half and hammer nails into it then get tortured by daemons for the rest of your miserable existence
>Tzeentch: turns you into a chaos spawn because he's a complete schizo retard who stabs everyone in the back for the lulz
>Nurgle: gives you super aids and makes you spew green diarrhea out of every orifice but he totally loves you, right? ;)
Khorne is simple and has no fine print bullshit attached.

sororitas got staches now?
looks like my mc from kotor

>>718108405
Eliphas in DC was voiced by the same guy who did Angelos, it'd be pretty awkward to have Dobson do both when they're in the same game.

>>718110898
>I actually know that because I played from a burned dvd rom, but have no idea what that has to do with anything
As they walked so slow in groups of other units broadsides would constantly get stuck meaning they would get too far from each other so would be unable to deploy until the stragglers caught up which took forever and would be continually made worse the more you moved them (on foot). The change to them being a single member unit was done precisely to get around the poor pathfinding.

so is there a reason to buy this? i guess its convenient to have it all in one install.

>>718111260
64bit, higher memory allowance without modding it. Pirate it if that's not enough for you.

>>718109464
https://youtu.be/AbmDLVFAaec?si=KHN2Pcrcq5aX220H

>>718111191
10/10 in Romania

>>718110006
theres some problems but its generally unit-specific (tends to be the shit with big hit box)
squiggoth is most noticeable

>>718111320
personally I think it's funny there's people worshipping space tumors
khorne himself, mighty as he is, doesn't realize you're an individual, for him you're basically a duracell battery, and he's not a god like marvel "odin" or "thor", he's just there, energy, infinite power of anger and bloodshed
anything that isn't necrons really fucking suck for worshipping these anomalies

>>718111260
active multiplayer for a week

>>718111228
>I can't perform the most minimal micro
don't ever play c&c generals either then
I thought you'll bring an actual example where units are legit having an issue calculating a way to reach areas

Relic made fucking blizzard look competent, but then the reforged janitor is fixing the game

>>718094312
Yes, because I hold the perpetual DoW product use license.

>>718111217
Aren't voices shared all over the place? I believe Araghast and Thule are the same guy. I personally like both voices but I don't see why the had to make Eliphas change his voice and Legion rather then just using the new voice for some oc Black Legionary.

>tau in the game
>random piles of meat all over the map

>>718111410
10/10 in Romania
wonder why that is, let's see >>718105480

how's the multiplayer?
Are Eldar little shits still sending runners to the corners to rebuild bases?

>>718111705
>forgot to greentext the quoted post
dummy me I guess

>>718111602
Because Paul Dobson used the same speaking voice for Eliphas that he did for Angelos, he didn't shift his range and cadence at all, it only sounds different because of the vox grill filter Eliphas had in DC.

>>718111501
>khorne himself, mighty as he is, doesn't realize you're an individual, for him you're basically a duracell battery, and he's not a god like marvel "odin" or "thor", he's just there, energy, infinite power of anger and bloodshed
Khorne actually does care about the ones who are strong.

>>718093914
>pirates everything. even free games
Always gets me.

>>718111759
>are the eldar still eldar

>>718111790
The only thing Khorne cares about is bloodshed, anyone who spills more of it gets boons, but that's the extent of his notice. Ironically Khornate champions who get by on those boons are inherently inferior to those who shed blood entirely through their own unaided merit.

which of the big mods are better? there's unification and ultimate apocalypse right?

>>718111501
the chaos gods are just manifestations of psychic energy from beings with souls. Khorne is also Valor, Honor, Bravery.
Everything is just demonic as all fuck because some fuckers decided to turn the immaterium into unironic. literal. hell.
Who was it again......oh yea, the FUCKING NECRONS

>>718105480
pick your fighter

>>718111790
magneto is heretic?

>>718111790
he kinda cares in the way you might care about your favorite martial artist but not really, the only mortal he gives two shits about is kharn
if you're watching ufc and your favorite dude loses to the new fotm fighter, you might be butthurt, that's the deal with khorne, at the end of the day you don't really care about ufc or that fighter or anything, you're just midlly annoyed because he lost

>>718111191
portraits look very artistic too

>>718112021
If you want a mod without a ton of new units you can try Firestorm over Kaurava or Redux mod

>>718111787
Ah I see what you mean, I'd still prefer Eliphas to have not returned and just be a new character.

>>718112506
Fair. Eliphas being a lackey was a disservice to his performance in DC.

>>718111759
Dead because no one bought it kek. Also, they changed absolutely nothing about mechanics or unit balance, so it is the same.

>>718111932
>inherently inferior to those who shed blood entirely through their own unaided merit.
I don't think Khorne cares either way and in order to receive those boons in the first place you already would have needed to earn it on your own merit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrHhS5IkRR0
Best dialogue in an RTS, period

>>718112762
their faith is human supremacy so i don't know how that's going to work

>>718113000
Think about how modern lefty governments respect Islam or Judaism

>>718112762
kinda sad he becomes a dreadnaught in 2, he was so lively

>>718113151
tau hate their citizens too?

>>718112762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0FEo2WSLBM

>>718113000
They allow them to practice the imperial truth, but push them to downplay the human supremacist angle by insinuating that the Imperium as it is isn't what the Emperor set out to build, ironically completely true, but the water caste is actively working to get human populations to abandon the Imperial Truth completely for the Tau'va over time.

>>718113338
This one is my favorite. "Deff? You look more like a humie that needs some feedin' metal boy"

DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG YOU

>only 10k playing on release
So MP will die in 3 days

>>718113512
The Emperor would probably agree with this but still want the xeno slain out of principle.

>>718113338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPeNOEdVmbc

>>718113716
The Emperor never hated the Eldar. And the acting Emperor certainly doesn't.

>camera panning seems to be fucked on right side due to dual monitors

What the fuck

Does the AI still shit the bed when there are like 7 more maxed armies on the map?

>>718112762
Whatever happened to the tau in modern 40k?

>>718113789
The Emperor is a fag then. Eldar should be flayed, lit on fire and vivisected. T'au as well.

>>718113709
3 days lifespan is impressive for a pc game

>>718100180
DOW1 = Alpha Legion
Winter Assault = Word Bearers
Dark Crusade = Word Bearers
Soulstorm = Black Legion

The wank began with DOW2 where you do fight the Black Legion from start to Retribution.

>>718112762
Nostalgic, used to watch a lot of cheney's vids
THIS however, along with Litany of Fury (the quote mashup with the Requiem for a Dream ost) is my all time favorite warhammer 40000 fan media ever made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRiU2N03Rzs

>Already lost 40% of the players 4 hours in
It's over

>>718113937
I thought Crull and his guys were World Eaters.

>>718113901
t. Fabius Bile

>>718113937
2 out of 4 are incorrect

>>718114009
Sindri and Crull are Alpha Legion
Eliphas is a Word Bearer, when he failed twice he was banished and knelt down to Abaddon where he switched to the Black Legion ever since

>>718113994
Everyone refunded because it's a downgraded nothingburger.

>>718113994
>steamcharting a remaster of a game without anything to be mad about
I hate nu-/v/.

>>718113512
She's ten thousand years behind the times. A warhost of Eldar Harlequins who set foot on Terra not even that long after the Horus Heresy were terrified by what he was, that thing on the chair is leagues beyond what an Old One was, and is sure as shit more fucked up by M42 considering the steady diet of human souls and all that time spent on a psychic amplifier. If Big E ain't divine by now, he's very nearly about to be.

>>718114092
>Crull
>Alpha Legion
he most certainly was fucking not

>>718113994
wtf....i guess DoW wasnt as beloved as we thought..

>>718114156
demaster*

>>718114249
In 2003 Gays Workshop didn't know the Alpha Legion were double agents and glowniggers.

Where are the primaris marines?

>>718113716
The Emperor would want her captured and sent to Terra for 'execution' (he's going to send her back to Ulthwe on a guarded luxury transport in exhange for Webway secrets and Howling Banshee pin-ups)

>>718114295
There is 0 evidence of him being Alpha Legion. The only way you can claim he is Alpha Legion is if you use the stupid excuse that he's just undercover

>>718114249
He is. Some warbands of the Alpha Legion went full Chaos. Nobody knows where their allegiances actually lie, not even themselves. They all canonically have codewords burned into their brains that will switch their allegiences whichever way once heard. The whole legion is practically schizophrenic.

>>718114403
Show me the exact line where he is confirmed to be Alpha Legion. I want evidence.

>>718114245
Counterpoint; War Of The Beast is laughably fucking awful and everything pertaining to it should be rightfully ignored.
>Entire FIRST FOUNDING Imperial Fist chapter got massacred by Orks, alp of the Fists after that is just their Successors LARPing as Fists because the Imperium would shit itself id they learned the truth
>Orks landed on Terra and directly talked to the High Lords in perfect High Gothic just to make vague big worded threats
>PRIMORKS

>>718114469
Oh sorry, I meant Bale, not Crull, Crull was a World Eater, wearing their colours and all. Sindri and Bale were Alpha Legion. Don't know what the other anon is on about.

>>718114249
The Chaosniggers you fight in the first campaign are all AL you dumb nigger

Their chapter colours confirm this, they even made it even more clear with the DE

>>718114521
Not gonna argue that, but the Emperor being a big guy for you is probably the only part that was on point, it's heavily supported by nearly everything else.

>>718114245
The Emperor is not actually powerful. He's just a guy that instantly respawns when he dies and can read minds. He's not godlike, he's not 20 feet tall, etc.

>>718094073
>Leman Russ battle cannon used to be a howitzer with full knock back and wide radius
>But at certain point in Winter Assault, it got nerfed.
>Now it's like a really slow auto cannon
>Meanwhile, looted Leman Russ retains the howitzer trait

>>718114634
Nah, he was strong even before he did a funny thing on Moloch, even other psykers, perpetuals, can feel it. He might actually be a daemon prince after that deal.

>>718114620
At the time of DoW Emps was still just a battery for the Astronomicon.
Honestly those were better times. 40k now is nigh depressing.

>>718114567
I'm talking about Crull from Winter Assault you stupid faggot. I'm wondering if we even played the same game.

>>718114521
>>Orks landed on Terra and directly talked to the High Lords in perfect High Gothic just to make vague big worded threats
This was awesome tho

>>718114634
shitty nigger-library lore not welcome, have some lore written by a real writer.

>>718100180
When are we getting Night Lords game?

>>718115014
Dark Heresy is going to festures them.

>>718115014
>Kurze
>Batman but insane

>>718114956
ah yeah, the good times before this was retconned into his wife being a bitch

>>718113171
>Becomes a Dreadnaught
>Canonically gets killed by Eliphas the Inheritor in the Retribution DLC
Imperial Bros...Chaos got the last laugh...

>>718100180
Damn I love these guys

>>718114956
Cringe

>>718108313
No, he's actually right on that one

>>718115194
Can't be canon, Blood Ravens campaign has you kill him again. I guess that could be after he'd already killed Thulenaught.

Any changes to soulstorm's campaign? lack of persistent bases and annihilation victory always puts me off going back to it.

>>718108979
It's exactly that, people are being contrarians.

>>718114956
Hasn't been part of the canon for 30 years. Chaos folded big E like a lawn chair during the heresy, even the lore that he could totally beat Horus and held back because he loved him was changed to be that he had to discard his humanity for other reasons and that Horus was genuinely far too strong for him to beat 1 v1.

How the fuck can a guy who loses to a glorified Daemon Prince ever hope to match a Chaos God? Dude needed 12k years of worship and pysker sacrifice to get even close to being on their level, and even then his only feat is giving Nurgle a welt on his stomach after getting the mother of all sucker punches. Dude is a total fraud.

>>718115389
nigger library isn't canon, so I don't know what you are talking about.

>>718115321
Dawn of War 3 (it's total shit, I know) said the end of Retribution was a mixed canon. The Eldar ending of Retribution had you save Taldeer's soulstone from Chaos and they had it in DoW3, the Blood Ravens won the battle and saved their chapter, and Davian Thule is dead. I think a few other things were mentioned like Kaptain Bluudflagg killed Inquisitor Adrastia and stole her hat, but that's just the kind of silly side-lore the Orkz are good for.

>>718115014
>DOOM but in an orphanage
kino
>Arkham but on the Invincible Reason and Macragge
KINO
>>718115143
Curze is a far better exploration of evil Batman then the actual evil Batman comics.

>>718115538
but I liked her.....

>>718115538
I can't find any references that say Thule is dead for certain. Just because the ending is a mixed canon of Eldar and SMs doesn't mean every part of the game was.
>Kaptain Bluudflagg killed Inquisitor Adrastia and stole her hat
He actually didn't kill her, he just took the hat and left her there, which is even funnier.

>>718103972
>Loyalist turn traitor or a member of the traitor legions from the start
Are you retarded or just lorelet?

>>718091709 (OP)
THIS PEAR IS AMAZING

So, it has all the same performance issues the OG has then. How very disappointing.
>>718107598
Anything higher than 1 vs 1 will run like shit with max settings.

>>718115389
>>718115503
Both of you are wrong, on one hand The Emperor was known as the most powerful psyker in history even before he ascended and had tons of feats, on the other hand he nearly died to a Ork warboss

>>718115389
>>718115503
That's because the Emperor is not a godlike being. He's a perpetual with some psychic powers but his entire appearance is just an illusion he projects into people's minds. He's an ordinary old man who has lived too many lifetimes and thought he could play the warp gods to make the Primarchs. Unlike him, they are actually demigod-like 15 foot tall abominations.

>>718115641
>>718115705
It was a cool hat to be fair.

>>718115935
Da Flash Gits alwayz dress 'n stoile!

>>718115904
The Emperor never actually fought against any of these xenos and demons in physical combat. He's an ordinary human who was once Jesus and Alexander the Great in past lives. He has died thousands of times and just respawns every time, but he is not a superpowered warrior.

>>718115328
Wasn't there a mod that fixed that or no?

>>718115328
The answer to all questions pertaining to gameplay, mechanics, modes, unit balance, faction balance, etc are all no. They have changed absolutely nothing about any of that. It all remains exactly as it was.

>>718115365
>being contrarians
The shadow/performance issue is definitely not just being contrarian. It's one of the few things they added to the game, and it absolutely tanks performance. No matter what kind of hardware you have. I don't know if they'll fix it.

>>718115328
persistent bases were jank because tech wasn't persistent, it was silly

>>718113789
Yeah he just wanted to slaughter every non human races because potential existential threat to humanity

Why are there unit limits in Soulstorm? Fuck outta here

MPniggers need to rope themselves

>>718116487
The Emperor wanted an alliance with the Eldar because he knew they both wanted the same things. Again, they were never his enemy and never a race he wanted to destroy.

>>718113789
He didn't hate them, but he didn't like them either. He thought they were stupid, foolish and a threat to his plan to defeat the chaos gods, that's practically the driving reason behind everything he does. Kill off all the xenos so they can't feed chaos, then rid humanity of the psyker gene and move them into the webway. He'd have left the milky way devoid of any life that could sustain them until they were weak enough to destroy and leave the warp becalmed again.

>>718116604
>Source - trust me,bro

>>718116431
Then remove the shadows and it's still a decent way of playing the original in widescreen without stretching which is what a lot of people wanted

So can I play UA mod?

>>718116864
No it isn't. You can play the original with shadows and it runs great. There is ZERO reason to buy or play this version. None whatsoever. There is no excuse, it is indefensible.

>>718116515
unit limits were a thing since winter assault dumbass geek
and its entirely cause you could have 30 unit cap worth of fire prisms in vanilla

>>718117291
Wraithlords with bright lances was funnier

>>718117291
soul

>>718117291
Is there a way to remove unit caps?