Thread 718093402

>SF6 is dogshit
>T8 is dogshit
>Strive is dogshit
>CotW is dogshit
What's up with this generation? I can't believe how good we had it with SF5CE and T7... and it's not like we considered those to be THAT good either. The scariest part is that they're more popular now.

>>718093402 (OP)
Fighting games are for retarded faggots. Normal people mock these losers and actual gamers know how fucking rerarded they are for playing them.

>>718093631
The issue is that even retarded faggots can't play them anymore because the devs tried to appeal to normal people.

>the only recent fightan game sequel that isn't worse is Rivals of Aether 2
How did it come to this?

All fighting games are dogshit.

>>718094190
>going from cool pixel art to shit 3D
uhhhhh

>>718094190
>>718097057
I get it, were pretending that its the late 00s / early 10s and we have to applaud every fighting games jump to 3d regardless of quality

Haha funny haha i love sfiv and xrd they looks so good hahahaha such a leap forward for the series i hope the next kof is 3d! I hate the jaggy grafix DX

>>718097423
xrd looks way better than 2d gg
ggs spritework is really mediocre

>>718093402 (OP)
Smash 6 will save us

>>718093402 (OP)
All of these games are great though

>>718093402 (OP)
Granblue is actually okay.
But if it has top tiers waifus, most male characters are lamo fuckbois.

>>718097057
rivals 2 looks way better wtf are you smoking

My fightan dream game is a Bushido Blade with ArcSys visual style. Maybe someday...

>>718093402 (OP)
I am glad I jumped the ship from this garbage genre after Tekken 7 season 1 ended.
Though I wish I never got into it beyond mashing with friends while drunk and high locally.

strive is good
sf6 is ok
cotw is very good
t8 is actually dog shit
2xko is amazing but unfinished
op is just an out of touch unc boomer

>>718093402 (OP)
>Drive Rush is awful, SF6 is dogshit
>There are no defensive mechanics, Tekken 8 is dogshit
>Characters' movesets were cut and the game was simplified, Strive is dogshit
Meanwhile, COTW has:
>No neutral skip mechanics
>A ton of pretty deep defensive and offensive mechanics
>An even bigger moveset than the previous games
>No autocombos or other dumbed down mechanics for normalfags
But you consider it dogshit because...

>>718098683
>strive is good
>sf6 is ok
lol
>cotw is very good
LOL
>2xko is amazing but unfinished
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>718099001
truth hurts

>>718098683
>strive is good
Yeah
>sf6 is ok
Yeah
>cotw is very good
Fair
>2xko is amazing but unfinished
Opinion invalidated never post again.
>>718098771
I dunno man shit still seems modern fighting game retarded just like 10% less. Least it isn't mr sleep granblue but that's an ocean floor level bar to reach in terms of boring and bad.

>>718098771
Wait doesn't it still have it's own version of modern controls that does have auto combos?

>>718098771
>it dogshit because...
SUIIIII

>>718093402 (OP)
an undertale arena fighter will save the fighting game industry

>>718093402 (OP)
Strive and CotW are both good though. Not popular anymore, but good.

>>718101224
yes

>>718093402 (OP)
SFV sucked so much harder than 6 does

>>718098771
People not playing COTW has done so much to expose the frauds.
>>718101224
Yes but it's not a functional mode that actually gives you full control.
It's Xrd Stylish mode, not SF6 modern controls.

>>718102373
At launch. The difference is that SFV got updated. Year 3 SFV was very different to year 1. Year 3 SF6 is literally the exact same game with more characters (who do the same shit or are terrible).

>>718102481
>Year 3 SF6 is literally the exact same game
Because the game at launch was actually good and doesn't need to do a 180 just to be played.

>>718102563
>Because the game at launch was actually good
funny

>>718102563
No. It was better than most launch games but it still had an ultimately solvable system, like every first release fighting game ever made.

>>718093402 (OP)
>SF6 is dogshit
wrong
>T8 is dogshit
sadly right now it is
>Strive is dogshit
always has been, tranny franchise
>CotW is dogshit
it's fine but a bit too goofy
>MK1 is dogshit
It's beyond dogshit and I'm sad because it's my favorite fighting game series.

>>718093402 (OP)
>SF6 is dogshit
well…Im having a blast.

Wild Assault ruined Soive. It was mediocre already but they somehow managed to fuck it up completely. Now they try to fix a problem they invented for two years, 2.0 promises to tone it down but I have zero faith.
The balance is still awful. Still lots of HC shitters in every tournament.
Jam got censored into oblivion.

I have no idea how anyone can still play this turd.

I just want a new Soul Calibur game for fuck sake. SC6 was good. All they need to do is remove RE and fired everyone that approved it.
Tone down the anime shit but keep the character unique gimmicks like Maxi seven star dragon.
Remove the super meter bar but expand on the lethal hits mechanics to perform unique finishers too.

>>718093402 (OP)
Just move on and stop being miserable. If you think about it, things are so far gone there's realistically no way fighting games will ever improve.

>>718094190
>How did it come to this?
indie devs with a sufficient amount of common sense

>>718098771
>because...
Kushnood Butt misnamed.

>>718093402 (OP)
>fighting games are now made for online, streamers and third world browns and nigs
>"why are they shit"
a mystery

>>718102402
>not a functional mode that actually gives you full control
It has it's drawbacks like sf6 modern controls does but it definitely is more reminiscent to it than it is to stylish mode.

World Tour is fun and that alone makes SF6 the best fightan of the generation

>>718103269
>try to fix a problem they invented for two years
Anon WA hasn't been a problem whatsoever since they nerfed it and even HC isn't running shit anymore even if he is still a +R testament and Xrd valentine tier mistake. If it was like heat or drive where everyone has the exact same WA or was spammed as much I could see your issue but it isn't.

>>718104286
>Anon WA hasn't been a problem whatsoever since they nerfed it
lol

>>718104286
>Anon WA hasn't been a problem whatsoever since they nerfed it
Yeah, that's why the first feature of 2.0 is limiting its usage.

>>718093402 (OP)
Reject modernity

>>718093402 (OP)
Bro you make this thread daily. If you spent half the time you spend shitposting about fighting games actually playing you'd probably be half decent at them

>>718093402 (OP)
CotW is the best desu

>>718093402 (OP)
>SF6 is dogshit
No. I'll tell you what it's dogshit: not being able to close the gaps.

Explain why Strive is bad without using buzzwords.

>>718104337
Elaborate
>>718104662
They said their "revising the properties" and that could mean literally anything with what they have in store. They could say the plan is to reduce it's utility and dependency but since it's arcsys that could mean fuck knows what. Could be used just as much as it is now, which isn't much since most people rather keep that for burst or shield, but in a different way.

>>718105919
It's a dumbed down game without a ranking system and made for people who don't play fighting games

>>718105529
closing gaps is supposed to be a skill

>>718106080
>made for people who don't play fighting games
>Yet it doesn't have simple controls
?

Fighting games were fun when it was just you and your friend playing against each other on the couch. People have, as they do with everything, optimized the fun out of it. Now you can't play at all unless you want to invest some serious time and effort into it.

>>718107375
>Fighting games were fun when it was just you and your friend playing against each other on the couch
And what's stopping you from doing that?

There's too little variety in fighting games nowadays. Everything feels too similar. You either get a simplified mid speed fighter centered around spectacle and getting newcomers into the genre or a tag fighter.

>>718105919
i dont like the slow air dashes
i dont like the ability to antiair grounded normals with 6p
wild assault is more just unnecessary than anything
i do not like the complete evisceration of characters movelists and some being completely unrecognizable to their previous entries (valentines, sin, and im already predicting that im not gonna like jam)

do any of these constitute buzzwords to you

>>718103156
>tranny franchise
what makes the whole franchise a "tranny franchise" as opposed to just the one game that literally has a tranny in it

>>718107453
Not having friends, for one.

there hasn't been a good fighting game since SSF4 Arcade Edition

>>718107823
So it's a you problem, and not a fighting game problem.

>>718098771
I tried CotW in the beta and it was ass. The neutral felt shitty and stubby, and the combos being based on chains was really cringe.

>>718098418
It's only okay if your only point of reference is games as bad as SF6 and Strive

>>718105529
>backoff
>jumpscare
>backoff
>jumpscare
>backoff
>jumpscare
>backoff
>jumpscare
SF6 is complete and utter shit, anon.

>>718109812
You can get good and react accordingly.

>>718105529
I don't play sf6. Is slime rush plus on block? What's the thought process behind this

>>718103349
>fired everyone that approved it.
Oh don't worry they did that which is why there's no one making a new SoulCalibur game.

>>718109893
To make neutral more fun

>>718109893
Not only is it plus, it's nearly the only thing that's plus so it's impossible to do real pressure without it.

>>718093402 (OP)
>I can't believe how good we had it with SF5CE
Try harder with your bait

>>718109872
>"just rea-ACK!"

>>718109872
Except you fucking can't hence the pro footage I was replying to which is STILL exactly that, because the risk/reward in the game around catching jumpscares is fundamentally broken. The game is just built around people doing random shit and hoping to overwhelm their opponent from fullscreen. It is how the game is played.
Even basic shit like jump-ins are broken in risk reward. You have to get to a far higher level than any other fighting game to stop getting retards who are constantly jumping, because one successful (usually just lucky, catching the opponent daring to actually push a poke in neutral) jump-in is worth getting anti-aired like 5 times.

>>718109997
Are people not angry about this? It seems like something that would get changed immediately.

>>718110087
SF6's design decisions almost feel like they are intentionally meant to cater the game to coked up teenage reaction times in an attempt to make the playerbase look more like other esports games.

>>718093402 (OP)
SF6 is a good game, I'll never pretend it isn't.

>>718109893
Slime rush gives any button 4 more frames of advantage, usually making them plus.
>>718110209
People are but they're shouted down on any social media by people who's livelyhoods are attached to the game, so everyone pretends it's just not a problem.

>>718110191
It seems like a skill issue

>>718093631
Normalfags love SF6, it was built from the ground up for them

>>718110191
>Even basic shit like jump-ins are broken in risk reward. You have to get to a far higher level than any other fighting game to stop getting retards who are constantly jumping, because one successful (usually just lucky, catching the opponent daring to actually push a poke in neutral) jump-in is worth getting anti-aired like 5 times.
Eh SFV already had that problem when you were anti-airing people with lights for years.

>>718093402 (OP)
City of the Wolves deserves the Goty for Fighting Games.
It's the best one this year.

>>718110316
Well guess I'll continue to sit out fighting games then

>>718110364
Better than a dead game built for pros that won't even touch it as well.

>>718110087
Feels weird to only be seeing a webm that so perfectly shows the problem with this fucking game now, after literal years.

>>718110443
One is a bad game that will die along with its trend die. The other is a good game forever. I would rather keep playing a good dead game than play every 6 years a new shit game.

>>718110087
Have they still not made checking a drive rush give a guaranteed punish counter?

>>718110272
What's happening in the background?

>>718093402 (OP)
How dead is mortal kombat that no one even mentions it on this threads?

>>718093402 (OP)
Either move on or play old/niche fighting games. Modern video games are made for people who spend all day on Twitch, not the people who play them.

>>718111226
WB imploded the last one to try and sell their games division so it only outsold the entire rest of the market by comparison instead of collectively.

>>718110646
Of course not, that would hurt the feelings of gold ranks who just do it endlessly.
What's really baffling is that it still isn't punish counter in the pre-attack frames, meaning hold parry into PDR to avoid the PC throw still works.
The game is full of plain as day flaws they just refuse to fix, and people legitimately think this is because the game is flawless and not indicative of something deeply wrong.

>>718111382
>hold parry into PDR to avoid the PC throw
lmao does doing that mean you end up with more drive gauge than if you got PC thrown?

>>718093402 (OP)
This gen also has KOFXV and Uni2 if you have any level of patience when it comes to matchmaking.

all of this is because of jive

>>718111581
It's the same drive meter. It's just avoiding getting punished because the game is broken.

>>718093402 (OP)
What went right with their previous iteration? I do remember SFV had a garbage launch almost like Killer Instinct early days.