Thread 718193537

>tell everyone battlefield is back this time for sure
>back to the roots of battlefield gameplay
>do a huge marketing beta to show off just how BACK battlefield is, including paying dozens of streamers to show it off
>neglect to include a single fucking map that showcases battlefield gameplay
>literally not one
>but I swear they're in the full game guys
what the absolute fuck are the devs doing

>>718193537 (OP)
I'm not really into battlefield but I enjoy the small maps. very easy to run between objectives and you aren't getting fucked by snipers so often

>>718193905
getting fucked by a dozen dudes with shotguns is hardly better

people will say its just like Metro or Locker but in those maps I wasn't able to just run around and one shot everyone with a shotgun, if you pass the clear combat lines at the chokepoints you would get destroyed unless you played really smart. In BF6 you can just run around like COD and play like a cracked out war zone streamer. Just spawn die spawn.jev

>make a week 2 mission to destroy points on rush
>as a result, players in defense teams keep quitting
>add breakthrough mode as an alternative, still only attack
>but remove both breakthrough and rush from the premade playlists, forcing you to custom search

I think the devs are just retarded. Whatever went right with week 1 was a fluke. I finished my quests and now I have no desire to play 6 any more.

>>718193537 (OP)
They want the cowadoody crowd.

Because right now they're still trying to debate if the better play is
>show people why Battlefield is fun and why they should play it
or
>bro this time we can beat COD at their own game bro just one more Battlefield this time bro

Hence the constant vacillating over whether weapons should be locked to classes or not.

>>718194372
>weapons should be locked to classes or not
Well, it's also easier to sell skins if you can use the guns for any class.

>BF3 was good from start to finish
>BF4 saved by DICE LA
>Hardline was DOA
>BF1 was good from start to finish
>BFV saved by DICE LA again
>BF2042 they tried and failed
Can BF6 be saved?

>>718193537 (OP)
Anyone just feel like this is BLOPs the remake? I Get this nostalgic feeling of having played the shit out of it already. Good or bad I can't really tell yet.

>>718194609
I think so. Then again it's hard to say for sure when we can't even see how it plays on regular battlefield maps yet.

>>718194609
bf6 is a massive success already

>>718195212
preorder numbers

>>718193537 (OP)
Reminder that they also gave mouse+keyboard players MORE recoil >>718187168

>>718195639
So this is an open invitation to be the biggest nigger in the game using only shotgun & RPG as sniper.

>>718195997
Meh, I'd rather just not give these scumfuck suits at EA any money. That sounds more fun.

the faggot rats that stay inside the indestructible bus in the middle of the street
total death upon them

>>718193537 (OP)
You're a fucking retard. Go back to 2042 if you want dosghit pointlessly large maps.

>>718194609
Are you a zoomer? People hated BF3 back in the day.

>>718196813
Can confirm.

>>718193537 (OP)
EA anticheat causes stutter. Even when not playing the game. EA really needs to fix this.

>>718194189
Absolutely hilarious to see Coddlefield 3 children complain about coddification

>>718196726
they need to show 64v64 right now

>>718196813
only because it was new
but bf3 is the best

>>718197635
bf3 had the perfect amount of codification

>>718197501
this

>>718197939
>perfect amount of codification

>>718198264
cod used to be fun

now teams are either stomp or get stomped

as soon as theres a 200 ticket difference you can just drop out of that game and join a new one no point in playing a losing game where you cap nothing

the rifles kill too quickly

>>718198696
I noticed this, been on a stomped streak. Only fun I get out of this beta right now is camp C4ing while the enemy team holds 4-5 points.

>>718193537 (OP)
Blasts? Had
Boot? Secured
Form? Returned to
Gameplay? Cod-like
Steamchart? Top 3
Women? On the frontlines
Vehicles? Decommissioned
Rileycs? More like RileyGF

>PS3 graphics
>Named soldiers
>Less maps than BF4 (2013 PS3 game)
>Less weapons than BF4
>Maps are small as shit
>No recoil
>Weapons don't sound like weapons
>Soldiers move like crazy even tho they have like 100 kg of gear on them
>No server browser
>Aim assist
>Battlepass
>Bots in servers
>Female soldiers
>No artillery
>Worse destruction than BFBC2 (2010 PS3 game)

>>718193953
the shotguns are fucking brutal but to be fair shotguns irl are also fucking brutal within about 20 meters, so its kind of hard to complain when dudes are dropping because thats what would actually happen

>>718198438
Around 2009.

>>718199672
>fucking brutal within about 20 meters
Not in body armor.
Retarded game.

>>718193537 (OP)
The only map in the game that is anything like Battlefield is the one they remade from BF3. None of the others are different from what is in the beta.

i cant play it like a battlefield. i cant play patient. if you play patient you are overrun by a stampede of squirrely movement heavy soldiers running any weapon they want
theres no fuckin tactics or strategy to any of this

you set up an area and its just full of shit in the next 30 seconds. its retarded and i hate run and gun bullshit

>>718199921
and bf3 is 2011

>>718200629
First month is going basically be all that shit until Black Ops 7 comes out.

>>718200689
bf is not supposed to be cod
it's all brain dead shit now

>go medic
>revive everyone
>get a zillion points
Huh

>>718201273
The only time I've been near the top of the scoreboard is when playing as Support or Engineer. Just killing people won't put you up there, and you either need to be exploding tanks or reviving as well.

>>718200001
Get shot by 9 32 caliber bullets and get back to me, should we go tarkov and bullets to the chest do basically nothing?

>>718193537 (OP)
It's a pile of dogshit.
>netcode: dogshit
>maps: dogshit
>matchmaking: dogshit, no server browser and it takes 5-10+ minutes using custom search to avoid the peak dogshit map Empire State so they can funnel you into it with a forced playlist
>crashes every other game (was initially fine but has gotten worse)
>visual artifacting that can last from a second to nearly half a minute, blinding you
>audio cutting out randomly until game restart
>weapons turn invisible and require a force exit
>vehicles are shit tier and virtually worthless
>zero class balance, no reason to not run support and give yourself your own ammo and heals constantly
>game looks like shit, models and lighting literally BF4 tier

They must have run out of cash funding the fake hype from the first weekend. Lmao

sick of seeing this every time i die on PC, if i wanted to play with consolefags I'd buy a console and play on that

holy fuck the reddit shills going full force tryin to bury the criticism with just a ton of post of
>im having fun whats the issue?
full on gaslighting and its hilarious
>its not cod at all im having fun
and you check these accounts and they have NOTHING on them.

>>718201469
>>vehicles are shit tier and virtually worthless
I had a nice little streak going with a tank

reminder that call of duty has a slower ttk than bf6 as we speak

>>718193537 (OP)
Cairo is pretty good. Peak could be good if you just get rid of fucking C point and add two land vehicles to both teams and flattened the south side of the map.

>>718201539
Why are you even wasting your time on reddit? It's a given every AAA release is going to have blastposters cause there's literally a piece of the marketing budget spent shitposting online in favor of the product.

>>718201353
>try to heal tank
>tank drivers are retarded and panic after being shot once and go 90 mph in a random direction leaving me behind
>we both die
God I want the newfriends to leave

>>718201685
because people are waking up and actually shittin on it. its just the stray comment or thread gets posted about how much they love eating shit with stickers on it to keep it boosted appear

>>718201476
All the vehicles are so much easier to control with a controller it's insane. I got tired of switching every time I got in and out of one so now I'm just on a controller all the time. Join us anon.

>>718201876
I shan't be paying money for this garbage game.

I didn't read the thread but why did it get so sweaty in the 2nd beta test. The fun has been completely sucked out.

>>718193537 (OP)
>what the absolute fuck are the devs doing

Cheating you out of your money. Don't buy this travesty of a game.

>tiny maps
>automatic spotting (seriously? a step forward would be to eliminate it altogether)
>no hardcore mode
>default is no class locked weapons
>no server browser
>vehicle physics ruined
>helicopter unplayable
>no proper conquest maps
>actual final game will only feature 3 big maps (only fucking three)
>we don't get a preview of the big maps, just trust us goy

BF3 was a massive step down from BF2. It was missing proper tactical gameplay, useful squad leaders and commanders. BF3 was missing double assult (capture all points to win, deprive enemy of respawn)

But bf3 was still a lot of fun. It had godawful spotting triangles but... hardcore in bf3? absolutely fucking goat. I can't understate how good hardcore was in BF3. You could use cover, blend in, you had to play tactically, you could easily confuse armor who couldn't just use 3rd person view to see around corners, walls, blindspots. Rush in bf3 was so fun.

BF4 comes along and... uh, rush is now shit. Hardcore? unplayable and shit. Orange triangles everywhere. FOV changed so the game looks like we're playing through a letterbox (but hey it makes everything feel faster right?).

BF4 was a step backward from BF3, but not terrible. We had BIG maps, a lot of maps, good vehicle balance, good vehicle controls. It was memorable and long lived compared to BF4. A step backward, but good.

And now we're at 6.
>still looking through a letterbox
>tiny maps
>bad vehicle physics
>unplayable aircraft
>cross play (pig disgusting)
>no proper commander
>no proper squad leaders
>automatic spotting (puke)
>no hardcore
>no maps

Don't just this trash. Even if it's fun, there are other fun games out there. There are plenty of shooters. Buying this game is simply voting in a poll to the developers telling them "yes, this is OK!". Don't send that message, this is NOT ok.

>>718202037
We are so back and returned to form bros..

>>718202093
It’s a beta you mong

Crazy how Battlefield 1 was the last good Battlefield game

>>718202183
kill yourself you cocksucking ea shill retard

>>718202015
they funneled everyone away from breakthrough which was the closet thing you could get to a bf game

now its forcing people to do what feels like 12v12 on small ass maps

>>718202015
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

>>718202214
Wrong post meant
>>718202183

>>718194230
this is my current problem, these people are morons, i keep trying to even just get into a game with either rush or breakthrough and all i get is conquest. Fucking idiots

>>718202243
nope I had it right the first time you avatar attention whore, fuck off to reddit where you belong

>>718202290
Stop trying to hijack my posts queer, BF6 sucks get used to it.

Remember at BF3 launch how the servers were manipulated to allow 128 player 64/64 conquest and how hilariously fun that was playing caspian with just waay to many players?

14 years later and we still don't have proper 128 player conquest.

At this point count yourself lucky you even get 32/32 players, you can see they REALLY want to push it down to 16/16 or smaller.

>>718202379
>man I can't stop sucking all these dicks like the huge faggot I am
you're a dick sucking frogposter, your opinion is invalid

>>718193537 (OP)
>neglect to include a single fucking map that showcases battlefield gameplay
I don't understand, would those not be the most important maps to test? Anything bigger than a fucking cod map?
It's just frustrating to see potential, but I can't even validate it because the peak 69 or whatever map is still awful comparatively.
The whole 70 dollar game nonsense does not help either.

Battlefield 6 is worse than Call of Duty Modern Warfare II

>>718199231
>No recoil
Controller user detected. The recoil on mouse is fucking unbearable. The default M4A1 is almost unusable. I always switch to shotty because it kills before the kick.

>>718202425
Shut your purple gorillas ass up before I pinch it shut, NIGGER. BF6 is TRASH.

>>718202427
>I don't understand

You know how when the used-car salesman talks up the paint job of the car he's selling but neglects to point out that the engine is a about to fail?

It's that. There's no accident here. They hide it because they don't want you to see it.

>>718202427
The maps were tested in the battlefield labs alphas. This beta is a stress test of constant action on small maps and also doubles as CODfag bait.

>>718202192
I loved Battlefield 1, and the more time that passes the stronger my love gets.

>>718202602
>source: trust us

>>718193537 (OP)
While I like the gunplay, the lack of bigger vehicular maps is concerning. I will not be purchasing until this is rectified.

>>718202183
>Its just a beeeeeeeeeeta
Lmao, fell for it again reward.

>>718202602
I was in the playtests. I have already tried all but 3 of the maps in the game, and two of those were the BF3 map and the huge map that's exclusive to the battle royale mode. All of them are the same style and size as the ones in the beta.

>>718193537 (OP)
its call of duty without 3 lane maps lol

>>718202825
>the huge map that's exclusive to the battle royale mode.
The fucking what?

>>718202532
Fair enough, I should always assume something is being done for evil.
>>718202602
I refuse to believe that you couldn't have an even more effective stress test on maps with combat at great scale.
Your bait comment is dead on though because no one wants to watch streamers walk 10 miles to an objective and then die.
I hate streamers so much it's unreal.

>>718194609
>BFV was saved
What?

>>718202776
>>718202183

>>718202825
3 small (2 in the beta)
3 medium (2 in the beta)
3 large (no one has apparently played these)

>>718202869
Retards who preorder BF6 are in for a hilarious rude awakening when it's revealed Firestorm is a downsized remake & the only other map that's advertised as big cannot be played on any game mode except battle royale. The information is out there, people on /v/ are trying to warn others not to buy this game, but people are still going to ignore the warnings and buy it.

>>718201353
I was top of the scoreboard playing assault on conquest just capping points and killing faggots. I had like 30+ kills though

>>718202998
inb4 the large maps don't run on consoles and no one can play them until they get downsized to liberation peak tier bullshit

>>718193537 (OP)
>battlefield of duty: black company 6

>>718193537 (OP)
I couldn't play the game once without crashing. So I'm already mad that DICE did some FOMO shit with the challenges anyway, just in case by some miracle that game suddenly works on launch 8 weeks now. Then they will have screwed me out of all those unlocks. It's not my fault that i couldn't play the game, it's their fault. I tested out Space Marine 2 maxed out at 4k last night, played for a whole night straight. I don't think anything is more demanding than that game right now. So why the hell was everything always crashing for me in BF6? it's not like my computer can't handle the game.

All Dice did was give me untold amounts of stress of trying to figure out what the hell was supposedly wrong with my computer. And I've found no answers.

preordered

Excuse me! Are we still talking about Battlefield 6? Listen, we need to move on. There are Streamers being banned for botting. This is like, a desecration.

2042 is better than this slop

>>718203060
Mirak Valley is larger than Firestorm and is a regular conquest map. The BR map isn't one of the launch ones

It is very strange that they didn't give us one big map in the beta. We know they're going to exist because of Firestorm. Imagine if they crop the play zone down or something though, that would be some fuck.

>CoD sized maps
>12v12 Rush
>streamers just all playing medic using ARs and SMGs
Amazing battlefield game, bros!

>>718203413
MODS = FAGGOTS

apparently they added this "time nudge" to 2042 and this, which makes you feel like you're walking through mud at the first sign of server desync
apparently the servers are peer to peer also
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/search?q=slow+motion&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on

>>718199114
So much this

>>718203752
>apparently the servers are peer to peer also
That was apparent from the first game I joined. Nothing about this game makes the price tag make sense.

>>718202093

Listen fucker, don’t tell me what message not to send

>>718196813
BF3 is worse than BC2 but it wasn't terrible, especially after they bring back karkand

I liked Battlefield 4 more than 3.

>>718203471
False. Mirak Valley is the only one not playtested and it is the battle royale map only. It is not in any other mode.

>>718203752

This was fucking me all last weekend and last night, while my friend playing on the same server was completely unaffected. I flipped a bunch of options in the Lenovo control panel and somehow boosted my RAM speed from 4800 to 5600 and the next two matches I played were completely fine, so I have to assume it has something to do with RAM speed. I saw people on steam forums speculating that it was CPU related, but mine never went above 50% even as the TN was hitting 1300ms at times.

>>718202183
>he thinks Dice is gonna make massive changes under 2 months from release
You're a retard if you actually believe this

>>718204185
BF4 pissed me off, too many matches getting stomped by vehiclefags and coping by switching to engineer was pointless cause of infinite flares. It really was just a shooting gallery with minimum risks for jets & attack helicopters in that game.

>>718196813
Very true. That's why it puzzles me now to hear BF3 being considered one of the absolute best Battlefields. I remember playing it as it came out and virtually everyone thought it was shit compared to BC2

The real red pill is that large maps are terrible, like all of BF4 base maps are boring as shit

>>718204294
mine just randomly broke, first weekend it was working fine but this second weekend the game is quite literally unplayable, at first I thought it was lag but nothing else is lagging or being slow with my connection, same game settings, same RAM settings, same PC. weird as fuck

ALL PC PLAYERS. IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR AIM IS SHIT CHECK YOUR WINDOW SETTINGS. MAKE SURE ITS FULLSCREEN AND NOT BORDERLESS. THE GAME DEFAULTS TO BORDERLESS AND FORCES VSYNC BECAUSE ITS RETARDED AND YOU WILL FEEL INPUT LAG LIKE NO OTHER

>>718204312
> He says, while posting a character from one of the most jank, underdeveloped games of all time
Fuck off back to R*ddit, shitbag

>>718203507
Because they're hiding that the biggest maps will still feel cramped compared to the average large map in old BFs. Firestorm's boundaries are gonna be nerfed 100% to funnel people into the middle without any flanks.

once i played the newest map this weekend i instantly lost interest. it's so over.

>>718204492
Still not gonna make battlefield 6 any better at launch you faggot

>>718193537 (OP)

pretty fun game, BUT

>no friendly fire
>no friendly body collision
>no slowdown when getting tagged
>healing too fast
>enemy highlighting automatic and too good
>too many indicators making UI cluttered
>female voices

if these were fixed it would be great, right now it is just a casual run and gun game for retards, basically casuals ruining games

>>718193537 (OP)
>what the absolute fuck are the devs doing
Unironically they are trying to court CoD players.

>>718199231
>>No server browser
wat

>>718203507
That is the only "big" map, and it's not very big.

>>718204342
I take it you didn't like Golmud Railway, but honestly i experienced more frustration in
Giants of Karelia in regards to vehicles. I feel liek that giants was the map where everyone felt less inclined to fight on foot and it was just a brainless tanks and jets match. Golmund i saw players doing that less often.

Also if you didn't like Dragon Valley 2015 then i think you have bad taste.

>>718198438
No it wasn't.

Would you upgrade your PC if it was already 8 years old?

>try it out on xbox series x
>game is fucking horrible
>locked 30 fps
>controller controls are slow
>aim assist out the ass
>cant control your vehicle
>decide to install it on PC
>mess around in bios trying to enable secure boot
>fuck up my boot order
>now am back
>game sux
if you want the tacticool aspects, play SQUAD not this bullshit. this is not BF3 or 4. Its a different take on COD

>>718204839
For this game? Hell naw.

>>718204705
He's right, they gutted the server browser. Happened in 2042 and Dice committed to gutting it again. They also ended community server rentals in Battlefield V. So they've been destroying the traditional experience for a while.

1942 was a buggy mess with netcode made of aids, best vehicle variety
BFVietnam was a buggy mess with netcode made of aids, best music
BF2 was a copy of a free mod and had major bugs like enemies appearing as friendlies and introduced XP and unlocks for babies, best tactics of them all.
2142 was spamfest aids, coolest setting.
BC1 and 2 were console baby aids to the max, dumbed down everything.
BF3 was the birth of the ultra meat grinder gameplay with 0 thought, neat gimmick map changes.
BF4 was BF 3.5
BF Hardline was a mod for BF3, cool modes that no one plays
BF Heros was pay to win mobile garbage
BF1 was pretty good, had horses. Best immershun
BFV still has the best gameplay but looks retarded.
BF2042 was dumb as fuck but you could do the coolest shit of all the BF games (aside from phsyics based shenanigans)
BF6 is probably the safest game ever made. 0 innovation. Takes pieces from each game, made everything more condensed, less vehicles, Boringfield.
>bought 1942 new from CompUSA

>>718204854
Based EA keeping keeping absolute retards from playing the game. Is requiring secure boot the ultimate tard filter? I don't wouldn't want to have people on my team who can't go into bios and choose two settings. lol, lmao even.

>>718204854
Please go play squad you milsim tard

>>718205171
im not updating my bios
>>718205218
kill yourself EA nigger

>>718204854
>locked 30 fps
By default, you can change it in the settings

>>718205171
its actually unsupported.

>>718193537 (OP)
>TOTALLY SECURE GUISE, WE NEED YOU TO ENABLE SECURE BOOT AND TPM 2.0 BECAUSE WE GUARANTEE NO CHEATERS!

I can't speak to more subtle hacks, but I definitely did run into my first obvious cheater
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats/Its_Fofao

>>718205432
This is why you play on PS5 and immediately disable crossplay.

>>718205483
There's probably some $80 plug & play console equivalent to that webm.

>>718205542
webms or it didnt happen

>>718196813
Zoomers now think BF3 is true BF

>>718205241
You should be updating your bios the patches tend to be very important like we're talking your computer might brick from bugs in the original firmware.
>>718205351
That sucks

>>718205116
This guy is in his 40s

>>718205596
I have erectile dysfunction

EA would never pay marketers to post here

>>718205463
>https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats/Its_Fofao
>2,404 kills in 45 matches
Kek what was this dude doing, flying around in godmode like a god of death spinning at 5,000 RPMs shooting shotgun slugs with 100% headshot accuracy?

>>718205727
lol

>>718202437
>The default M4A1 is almost unusable.

>>718202037
it's......a beta...

>>718205584
Not him, but i updated my bios and my issues are separate from everyone else. I've been just straight up crashing since the first free weekend. EA are not 'tard filtering' me. They're straight up confusing with me why their game isn't working. I'm currently installing Black Myth Wukong and gonna play it for a couple of hours, a game that requires 13gb of VRAM maxed out at 4k. If my computer can run this game: but it can't run BF6, then BF6 has strange abnormal issues that aren't my fault.

>>718205116
BF1 was brain damaged participation award trash with elite classes and behemoths

>>718205903
>NOOOOOO NOT A BALLOOOOON!!!!

>>718205903
>WE ARE BEING REINFORCED WITH A DREADNOUGHT

Where can I find the bf6 trans community?

>>718194609
>BF3 was good from start to finish
>BF1 was good from start to finish

>>718193953
I don't even have a problem with the shotgun itself, it's just retarded that every assault player has one because of the third weapon slot so you constantly encounter it

bf6 trans community and anons M87A1

>>718193905
THEN GO PLAY A CALL OF DUTY GAME. QUIT SHITTING UP BATTLEFIELD. YOU'RE INDIRECTLY TELLING THE DEVELOPER THAT SMALL INFANTRY MAPS ARE OK TO BE IN A BATTLEFIELD GAME

Any uncs having issues with visibility and reaction time?

>>718205867
What are your specs? My system is midrange and I've had no issues with an amd processor and nvidia gpu. Just the disappearance of dlss in the last update.

>>718196813
>People hated BF3 back in the day.

Fucking what? BF3 was loved and the hype was real. Yes, it was obvious that it wasn't BF2, but it was arguably one of the best shooters at the time and had one of the best DLC line-ups. I'm convinced youre an EA shill trying to shit on previous BF games to elevate BF6

>>718194230
Who cares about challenges and cosmetics though. The skins look stupid. Default multicam is KINO. Ignore the trash modes and play Conquest. It is Battlefield.

>>718206323
Weird thing to try considering this games entire marketing hinges on nostalgia for BF3/4

>>718206282
Yes, but I overcame that with recon bullshitery and just having the game outline everyone in front of me.

>>718205463
member of the aim community getting falsely accused

>>718206314
Ryzen 7 9800X3D
RTX 5090, 64gb of system ram

I was playing Space Marine 2 last night at 4k, fully maxed out with the 4k textures pack at like 100+ fps all night. So my system when put under load is coping and showing it's full potential. BF6 is just showing this insanely weird issue of constant direct x crashes. Although I've noticed it in BF V too, since i installed that one for testing purposes. It's something about Frostbyte engine that doesn't like my configuration for whatever reason.

>>718206656
50 series has issues good luck with that piece of shit I don't think you'll get it to work because of the garbage drivers nvidia has been releasing lately.

So has the beta convinced you to buy the game?

>>718206101
why do japanese girls want to look white?

>>718207115
no

I cant get over the lack of and weakness of vehicles. The one and only real BF map has one tank, one apc, one heli, one jet and two open faced jeeps. The tank/apc can be good, if someone gets on the roof and repairs you 24/7, an insanely boring way to play any video game, they also cant get into close range of anyone because any recon can instantly take you from 100 to 0. The jeeps are a joke, they're just tools to move from A to B but ONLY without enemies nearby, any one enemy will kill a car of four people instantly. The jet gets one pass over the map before getting hit by a mountain of AA missiles and cannons. The heli dies not only to AA, but also everyone and their mothers RPGs which is one tap kill.

None of this is to say vehicles should be OP, but there is a thousand ways to balance them and it seems the mantra is 'lets put in something that you use for 10 seconds then die'.

>>718207130
why?

>>718207115
After weekend 1 I genuinely was interested, but after weekend 2 fuck no. No big maps = no buy.

Battlefields low TTK is holding it back. You cannot have an FPS with open maps were you die the moment someone spots you.

>>718207153
game bad

I hate the lighting in these "realistic gfx" games so much. Everything is bleached white by the sun or too damn dark to see anything. Add in the excessive smoke and it feels like I'm fighting the game more than fighting players.

>>718207115
no the maps are terrible
>>718207127
because its fun anon

>>718207228
buy the game

>>718207296
no

>>718205661
>that HUD
God damn, we will never get a PC focused Battlefield game ever again

>>718207140
I hopped into a tank on Cairo and slow pushed onto C backed off the cap and camped the main road and a street the enemy couldn't do shit to me took out the enemy IFV and the MBT twice. I don't know what you're trying to do.

>>718207115
The first beta test had me almost preordering but after trying and trying again to have fun in the follow up beta test not only am I not buying the game I'm not even going to keep playing the free beta test. Whatever they changed I don't like it.

Vehicle nufag here, just went 50-5 with the 12 round tank. I understand why people make fun of tank cucks now lmao

What killed this game for me was seeing a bunch of the devs make joke twitter posts about how OP the shotgun was and then seeing them not make a single change to any weapon or vehicle balancing after a week. Really soured me on the game if this is the level of support it's going to have. Pre-order CANCELLED.

>>718206395
Fuck off, dicklick. NATO looks fucking awful

>>718207449
For the tank what are the two shells you can fire? I assume one is HE and the other is AP

>>718207290
Cairo is KINO. It is the best SMALL map I've played in a BF game in a long time. That said I like SMALL maps the least. We need some big maps.

>>718207115
I have a friend working at EA that was gonna give me a free key once it comes out. But after playing this shit I'm gonna tell him to sell it on ebay or something.

>>718207441
Yes, because you had some braindead engi repairing you

>>718207716
My team was spawning on the tank yes. Did you not get the memo that the tanks are great spawn points as opposed to spawning in front of flankers on the caps?

>>718207578
NATO doesn't wear multicam. Only special forces in America used it until very recently, now we deploy MM-25 which is a multicam clone. But no one else in NATO uses it, you double-nigger. It is objectively the second best camo on earth, second only to US4CES which is about 25% better but looks uggo. So yeah multicam is kino and the US Army faction looks the best (which the US Army is 99.99% of NATO so why bother calling them NATO).

>boot up game
>hear women screaming everywhere
>uninstall game

>every single map is a Operation Locker meat grinder built to ensure that there's never squad on squad combat, just ENTIRE TEAM ON ENTIRE TEAM clusterfucks
The only open air map is a fucking hallway where each point is within weapons range of two other points. This shit is trash. It's just hold W and Left Mouse until someone's tickets hit 0.

>>718207449
The tank is so overpowered in 6 because it has essentially no threats. Engineer rockets do fuck all, most teams try to run and ignore tanks instead of blowing them up, and there's rarely any other tanks or vehicles there to fight them. It's so broken and so against everything the vehicle gameplay in Battlefield used to be.

>>718207323
you WILL buy the game

>>718207115
Quite the opposite. I was expecting a fun and potentially good Battlefield game. Instead I got a terrible COD clone with dogshit gunplay, extremely broken netcode, tiny and poorly designed maps, infantry that move way too fast, and an overall total abandonment of everything the Battlefield series used to be.

>>718193953
You can fuck back with your own shotgun. Lot harder to play a counter-sniper.

dude we love battle sprinting alleyway simulator its heckin epic

>>718207443
same. i booted the game up yesterday morning with a coffee and every map and mode available was fuckin codified dogshit

>>718207115
No, because it's 8 weeks off launch. It crashed on me the entire time, but i figured out BFV crashes on me too. Which means in 8 weeks this game will still be unplayable for me. I'm not buying it. And that was despite me being very hyped for it and wanting some kind of BF3/BF4 successor. (although some anons claim its not that)

>match ends
>get put into a game that has 0/whatever players
>have to exit out into the lobby and re-queue every time
durrr durr fucking durrr

>>718208369
part of the problem is the small narrow maps, if the tank driver is cautious there's rarely if ever any opportunity to flank armor

>>718208369
You are nearly invincible if you have 2 engis pocket repairing you. Its absurd really

this is not a battlefield map dude what the fuck is this

>>718207475
them defending the catboy didn't help

>>718196813
It's that classic meme where a new release goes from Dogshit > Not so Bad > Good

>>718209221
I like how red enemy team has a severe advantage over 3 caps and can have snipers setup in the spawn to pick off any push from the back side of B

The only way ive found to extract fun in this game is slowly moving up streets, checking corners and taking cover with team mates.
Holding a point/angle is sometimes ok but you usually end up overwhelmed by a squad or 2 because everyone wants to run around constantly.

BC2 was a casualisation of battlefield but the maps were at least open with multiple approaches for the most part.
BF3 shitted everything up with metro and a couple other chokepointy things and battlefield has chased immediate gunplay over tactical map movement.
So it's arcade shooter or milsim and not much in the middle. I think rising storm 2 had the right mix but i think that's dead now.
Is hell let loose worth a look?

>>718209307
yeah its like an 8th of an actual battlefield map
100% hiding the "big" maps to be nothing and dogshit

i am definitely waiting to see the full game before i even consider buying

>>718209202
>>718209210
>play every other Battlefield game focused mainly on anti-armor as Engineer or Recon with C4
>could usually take out tanks and vehicles singlehandedly in basically every game
>BF6 rockets and C4 (explosives in general really) are nerfed to shit so it takes more than the 4 rockets or C4 you carry alone to destroy the tanks

Thanks DICE. Really cool.

>>718209221
cod4 maps are bigger than this

>>718209202
The most effective way to deal with tanks is running recon with smokes C4 and waiting for an opportunity when the tank extends.

>>718209446
>so it takes more than the 4 rockets or C4 you carry alone to destroy the tanks
It's because every tank has 2 rats repairing it for the challenge.

>>718209446
C4 is very OP in BF6 ackchually. It only takes 3 C4 to blow a tank up and you can toss them quite far. Its the most effective way to deal with tanks. Repaircucks can't do shit because 3 C4 blows it up instantly

>>718209561
Even without people repairing it, it does require at least 5 rockets or C4 to blow up. It's making me just want to play 4 or 2042 instead for my fix of blowing up vehicles.

Damn, i kinda just dont feel like playing the game.
Thanks beta, i wont be purchasing your overpriced game

>>718209735
It's 4 rockets/C4 to kill a tank.

>>718209801
No. It's definitely not. You can only carry 4 and it isn't enough.

>>718209747
yeah that week break away from it kinda got me enough time to consider if i really wanted to buy it.
breakthrough was fun and i was optimistic about the maps with it with a lot of hope then this beta came out and i realize all these modes fuckin suck and makes it actually feel like cod

no time to play patient. gotta GO GO GO

>>718209856
It is anon. Maybe you're just bad at the game.

>>718209747
I hated the game a lot more before I figured out the settings that was fucking my aim up now i dominate lobbies and do find it somewhat fun. Hard to resist the dopamine from pubstomping shitters on launch. I'll only probably get it if it's on Ea Play Pro, spend $15 play it for a month and then wait for Christmas discount

>>718209801
Its 3 c4

>>718204985
so you launch the game, go to multiplayer section...and?
how is that abomination?

>>718209903
>>718210043
Both wrong. It is 5 rockets and 5 C4.

>>718209747
That seems to be how a lot of people are feeling. The tiny maps play the same every time and lead to rapid burnout.

>>718210043
>3 c4
Holy fugg. The amount of times i've died trying to throw the 4th and it's actually 3?

>>718210074
Kek cope.

>>718210074
Its 6

>>718196813
/v/ hating it is not relevant
The game is still their second best selling game and one of the beloved shooters.
If anything i cant understand why Bf4 is considered better.

>>718209747
I've played a ton the past two weekends, and had already played in a few of the playtests earlier this year. I've experienced almost all the maps and weapons at this point and am pretty burn out on it. It's just not Battlefield and the devs didn't want to hear that feedback any step of the way.

its over

>>718210175
Yes. They will absolutely nerf C4. That thing is retardedly broken especially since it regens combined with the motion sensor as well in CQB. The recon class will be turbocucked, it's already losing its spawn beacon.

>>718210074
It's probably because half the time the rocket hits don't register and C4 throws glitch out and just disappear instead of exploding. I loaded a tank up with all 4 C4 earlier and it seemed like only 1 or 2 explosions actually happened or registered. The game's servers are painfully bad.

>>718209221
>be Pax
>play on empire state
>200 million fucking enemies running around the spawn garden like ants

>>718210365
that's one big sniper

>>718210043
look's like 4 to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yh8eIQW_iU

>just the breakthrough or whatever task
>defense doesn't count towards it
This is dumb

>>718207443
Ths desu

what the fuck do the empire state boomboxes do

There’s so many fucking shitters and they always seem to be on my team. Shits annoying

>>718210603
welcome to SBMM! algorithmically it says that you're so good so you should be able to carry all these shitters. have fun!

>>718208369
you can personally stack 3 mines in one place. i've seen stacks of 6.

>>718210635
3? Any time I try to go above 2, the 3rd pops off. Maybe there's a vehicle nearby I'm not seeing but it certainly doesn't seem to be the case.

>>718210493
That's odd because I've always used 3 and it works

I just replayed mw 2019, bf6 guns feel like shit compared to that

>>718210627
Meh this happens on server browser battlefields too where clans stack

>>718210728
mw2019 will forever be the technical peak of shooters.

>>718210728
Yeah but mw19 gameplay is campy 0 ttk dogshit, you can actually move around in this game

this kinda feels like a bunch of bullshit. have we evolved as humans in the past 10-20 years to be better at videogames that we cannot see the brilliance of cod6?

>>718193537 (OP)
You know what's the saddest part about BF6? Every single other BF game has had tons of "look at this cool/crazy/weird stuff that happened in my game" clips and videos.

I have barely seen any videos like that from BF6. The game is just the exact same thing round after round after round with barely any variance or changes in anything.

>>718210728
BF6 guns feel like shit compared to pretty much every game. Horrible gunplay in this game.

>drop 70 kills
>the guy on the other team mogs me and drops 80 kills with the same amount of deaths

I’ll cope with the fact that he had a better team

>>718210926
To me, they just sound very similar. Made me think I was using the wrong gun a couple of times.

>>718194609
>>BF3 was good from start to finish

Maybe in a different timeline

>>718210928
Literally how? The gunplay in this is awful, you literally can't hit or kill anyone because of the recoil and how fast everyone moves.

>>718211063
use soft point ammo on your AR’s, abuse the shotgun too

Genuinely why do you pretend to like open air vehicle maps? BF was only peak during vertical urban maps like Epicenter, Pearl Market, Flood Zone

I'm not buying this shit because it won't run on linux because of the anticheat but the worst part of Battlefield was always jetards, helorrhoids and tanks with 3 butt buddy engineers repairing them going 120-1 uncontested

that shit's not fun for anyone that has to run 300 meters between sites and gets one shot from range by tanks but at the same time it takes 4+ rockets that hit to kill, and if the tank has multiple engineers they can literally outheal your rockets and you only get 4 per life anyway. No one wanted to play any more of that shit.

>>718211121
Are you playing on m+kb or controller?

>play conquest on some fuckin city map i dont know the names
>post up on an alleyway like a good patient battlefield dad
>literally just watching the minimap of red triangles pouring into the side alleyways that no one covered to get to a point
>lose point in 20 seconds due to beacons and two squads around the corner in an alleyway
this is tiresome

>>718211005
every gun is the same high rof mess. it's bland. in cod there's lots of variety for the 'meta'. the famas, the m4 as usual, the slow rof oden. then the smgs you got the slow uzi and then mp5. each gun was unique and almost all were viable except for like 3 or 4 dogshit weapons.

>>718211149
I am a m&kb player, I’m also a BF sweat that’s been playing the older games a lot before the beta came out as well.

>>718211131
you would've loved this beta then. vehicles are complete ass on the one map that has it

>>718211191
There's essentially no way to actually hold points in Conquest and barely any way to take them in Breakthrough. The level design here is just plain bad. It prioritizes having too many possible entry ways to any given point while also being close enough to each other that there's no time between killing attackers and them coming right back.

>>718211063
>because of the recoil
Compensator and grip fixes 90% of the recoil

>>718211258
Ah. I would be playing on PC if not for the secure boot shit preventing me. I've played every Battlefield since 1942 (besides BC2) on PC. This game is unplayable on controller.

>>718211251
It does feel that way. Even using the 600 rpm gun still feels fast. Makes it annoying because there's so many engagements where the guy would pop out of cover and before I can point at him, I'm already dead. Not sure if lag or the game is just designed like that but it's more frustrating than fun.

I tried using the mobile AA on the one map with aerial combat and how the fuck are you supposed to kill jets other than whittle them down with the minigun? As is standard in BF games the lock-on missiles do fuck all since they just pop flares within the pathetic lock-on range.

>>718211418
Yeah I could not compete with mouse and keyboard players on controller even with the aim assist, have you tried playing without cross play? Might make it easier

>>718202915
The game's actually fucking good now. There's a bunch of stuff it has that I REALLY wish they'd bring back.

>>718211191
Strategic retreat and flanking is the smart play.

>>718199231
>ps3 graphics
You're either being purposely disingenuous or you're fucking blind.

>>718211496
I think I turned crossplay off, but I'm not entirely sure it's ever fully disabled. It seems like it will still put PC players in if it can't find a Playstation only match quick enough. I haven't felt this clumsy in a console shooter since the PS3 days, this game's aim sensitivity and aim assist seem kind of jank

>>718206031
>we are being reinforced with an armored train
>we have taken objective butter

>>718201476
Believe me pal the feeling's fucking mutual.

>>718207115
I won't have much choice in the matter. I'm in a low-pop region, if I'm not playing the most recent Battlefield I'm not playing Battlefield at all. Christ I was stuck in 2042 for years.

>>718196813
Not really
Yeah people with taste complained that it was a downgrade from Bad Company 2 but normies loved it

>try to get into bios
>restart into uefi bios
>black screen
>turn off and on
>mash F-keys, esc, delete
>black screen
guess im playing other shit then, too many posts about enabling secure boot bricking their PCs

goddamnit what do the boomboxes do

The game will have no content. BF1 had room for TDM maps and also all the other modes. It will also have as many cheaters as cawwadooty

>>718207651
Christ, I want Amiens back. You could modernise the environment and it'd still be near-identical.

>>718201803
You're supposed to climb on top of them, retard

>>718211580
>teleports behind you in an alleyway in another direction
heh nothing personal, kitten
>shoots you with 400 hours of aimlab flicking

>>718207651
BFV had such great maps.

>>718211847
Kek, bricked

>disconnect pc from internet
>launch game
>reconnect to internet
>play with no problem

>>718193537 (OP)
I really hate that medic was rolled into support. Now theres no way ill get actual fun gadgets like the morters and c4s again. That barricade from the beta sucks.

The mental fortitude required to not quit and play on this god forsaken team I just had.

>>718211496
Yeah, disabling crossplay helps a bit but it’s still scuffed. I swear half the time the aim assist either overcorrects or just gives up entirely. Feels like it’s tuned for a different game or something. I miss when aim assist actually made it feel like you had a fighting chance-now it’s just tugging your reticle off targets like it’s trying to grief you. I started messing with response curves but it's still a janky mess.

>>718212137
tried this and it threw a "launch game from the game application platform" error and closed the window

>>718210690
oh nvm, it must've been a squadmates mine i confused as my own. but still, wait for a mine or someone else's rocket to hit the tank. let it be until everyone piles on it at the same time

>>718212356
>theres no way ill get actual fun gadgets like the morters and c4s again
really? no way?

>>718212356
C4 is on recon now. It's also a joke weapon so you're not missing anything. Yeah I love sticking 4 C4 to a tank and not killing it. Yeah I love sticking a C4 to a person and still not killing him (????).

>>718193537 (OP)
Maps are so fucking TINY LIKE WHAT THE FUCK ITS CLAUSTROPHOBIC AS FUUUUUUUCK

>>718210895
Dumb retard talks like you can't launch the old games right now and see the gameplay is completely different

>>718212356
I really think the support being both the medic and ammo guy is a stupid choice. Assault should be the ammo guy. It's too much responsibility for one class to have to revive and supply people. At least in this it seems like the supply bag heals and gives ammo unlike 2042 where you actually had to choose one over the other.

>>718212597
C4 has been a recon thing in most Battlefield games, if not all of them. Especially remember it being that way in BF2, BC2, and BF3 and 4.

I’ll say it right here right now
It’s the worst battlefield in the series. Yes even bf heroes was much more fun

>128 players removed because it meant destruction and levolutions couldnt be used anymore
>BF6 comes out
>destruction is still worse than BC2 and no levolutions, maps are also smaller than ever
>no 128 players

>>718212760
I am so glad this game is starting to make people realize how good we had it with 2042 to be honest. That had big maps, tons of vehicles, and better gunplay. All things that 6 is missing.

>>718212813
based 2042 bro

>launch beta
>enter map
>get killed instantly from behind because spawnpoints are wherever
>respawn
>enter building and try to get on roof to spray with LMG
>its just 1 room with a chair blocking the door
>realize you can't get on any fucking roofs
what the fuck

Ok guys what's the meta? What's the best weapon + attachments and when do you unlock them?
t. shitter

>>718193537 (OP)
Shan't play it.

>>718212813
I’m unironically interested in giving 2042 another try. I heard it’s pretty amazing nowadays

>>718212729
It was shared between support and recon in 4. In 3 it was support exclusive.
In 1942 it was an engineer gadget so that was weird.

>got steamrolled on Empire State Breakthrough
>as the defenders
fucking how?

>>718212971
Three possible reasons
Your team sucks
Their team is good
They got a cheater on their team
Whatever the reason, shrug and move on

>>718212971
you guys are getting breakthrough servers?

>>718212971
Either the defenders win at that second point or the attackers win on that map. Only won as attackers once there. But that third point is super easy to take if you manage to finally get past those two indoor ones. Either way, it's a pretty fun COD map but an absolutely terrible Battlefield map.

>>718193537 (OP)
>back to the roots of battlefield gameplay
The problem is BC2 and BF3fags think they know what the "roots" are and they're wrong.

>>718194189
>people will say its just like Metro or Locker but in those maps I wasn't able to just run around and one shot everyone with a shotgun
literally yes you were lmao

>>718193537 (OP)
I think the beta is all the bf6 I need. This game is not better than 4.

>Rush game mode
>Tiny infantry only map
>Spawns are too close to objectives
>Still no large vehicle maps

Its fucking over. Battlefield has always been about combined arms warfare. No idea how you fucks are defending this

>>718212408
That's Gibraltar for you. It's like 80% blowouts.

>>718213387
4 was a duxkhuge clusterfuck of meme destruction that ruined maps.
It should have just been DLC for 3 and it split the playerbase and killed the hype train

>>718212764
Levolutions were bullshit anyway, always either having no effect or outright making the map worse, and BC2's destruction just left maps as flattened sniper-infested wastelands.

>>718213336
Ain't that the truth. The series doesn't even resemble 1942, Vietnam, 2, or 2142 anymore. We've drifted so far into COD territory that now even COD has bigger maps than Battlefield.

>>718213401
>the current maps are the only maps the game will ever have

>>718213401
>m-muh rush
these bc2fags are getting exposed and I love it

>>718212862
Get fucked, roof camper.

>tanks feel useless because the map design is so shit and covered with waist high cover for no reason that 50 retards are poking you with rockets constantly
>tanks feel unbeatable because there are 3 discord cucks sitting in their ass repairing them constantly
great vehicles guys!

>>718213401
>turned Rush into 12v12 deathmatch on even smaller sections of the already small maps

It's atrocious.

>>718213523
The most fun I have in battlefield games is taking a helicopter and assraping roof camping snipers, this game has neither roofs to camp nor helicopters.

>>718213496
>bc2fags are getting exposed

thats the rush map of Kharg Island from BF3....are you dumb?

>>718213538
They nerfed repair speed under fire for this exact reason in 2042. Literally every new game, they forget about everything they did for balance in the last release.

>>718213496
Are you implying conquest is any better?

can we get some pictures of the battlefield 6 map designers?

>>718213574
>No roof campers
>No helifags
Stop I can only get so erect

>>718213523
>>718213753
So you enjoy invisible walls and forced lane maps?

>>718213753
There are helicopters on one map but they aren't much of a threat because they almost always get destroyed by the jets, which seem to exist only to fight helicopters and eachother.

fucking tanks without helis on the map is a fucking hellhole. what the fuck are these guys thinking. helis are the ones that take out tanks. fucking dumb as fuck game, i hope it flops harder than 2042.

>>718193537 (OP)
ghost town at three months after release incoming.
will they learn? not likely.

>>718213753
If you hate Battlefield, why are you in a Battlefield thread?

>>718193537 (OP)
I was on the fence after the first weekend of the beta but uninstalled a few hours after playing the second weekend. This shit is peak slop. EA is just trying to steal the COD playerbase to sell microtransaction cosmetics to them. They have class and gun cosmetics already built into the beta.

>>718213619
Engi lvl 2 skill reduces vehicle repair speed for a couple seconds when they hit it with anti tank so not quite lost

>>718210898
Yep lmao, BF6 clips channels just proves how soulless this game is

>>718193537 (OP)
Its battlefield 4 with extra steps.

>>718214003
Ghost Town was a fun map. Wish they could still make maps that fun.

stopped playing cairo because every match has some monkeys in the roofs

>>718206236
They are. Go play an old BF if it bothers you

>Spent most of last weekend and the past two days grinding out all the challenges for the full game rewards
>Not sure I'm even going to buy it

Why did I do that?

>>718214323
Something tells me those rooftops are going to get invisible walls around them to prevent this cancer because without heli's there is fuck all you can do about it.

>>718194609
BF3 was most certainly not good from start to finish.
Say what you will about the maps but BF6 is the most polished a BF game has ever been at launch unless it just shits the bed at release

BF2 had large maps with 128 players and they never felt as cramped and overpopulated as 64 player maps do in BF6.

Even Karkland didnt feel like that unless you were playing Conquest Assault (and only the first point). So how did we even get to this point where they can't even make 12v12 maps NOT feel cramped?

So far, it's okay. Maps are too small for sure. I need to see the bigger maps and the further kit unlocks to really pass judgment. I want some cool engineer shit again like mines and designators.

G36 is good and not good at the same time

bf6 feels like some bf 2042 update cycle put aside, along with what the skeleton crew that got obviously pulled off 2042 worked on the second ea realized it was not a smash fortnite competitor they thought it was

the vehicles are basically unfinished. legit copy pasted for 2 factions even tho the beta build is probably some months old, doesnt really speak for the finished version if their trademark is this lazily implemented

>>718214578
It feels pretty shit to me. Inaccurate and doesn't feel very strong.

>>718214536
>bigger maps

Got some bad news anon...

>>718214006
This game is just BF3 lol

>>718214396
It’s an incentive to play the classes and if you do buy the game now you have them.
If you don’t no harm no foul

>>718214578
Get the MP7 and never look back

>>718214512
I legitimately hate everyone who complained about the 128 player matches in 2042 and every DICE employee that listened to them. 2042 was ruined the day they removed that from the game and shrank all the maps to be 64 players. And 6 is them going even further to the extreme with it. It sucks. Battlefield is supposed to be large scale and vehicle focused, not close quarters run and gun horse shit.

>>718214716
nah, its what a zoomer thought it saw when it looked at bf3 then ran it through AI map generator but forgot the "CS/valorant" setting on

It's mid. Feels more like call of duty

>>718214684
>Got some bad news anon...
Anon the three largest maps are not in this beta.

>>718195639
It's a bit pedantic of a topic considering mouse/keyboard has all around better control and can easily deal with this, but this isn't even taking into account that absolutely insane aimbot masquerading as aim assist that controllers get in BF6.

>>718214893
Anon... the biggest map in the beta is considered "medium" and it's smaller than previous game's smallest maps.

BF6 fucking sucks ass, if you like this game I feel sorry for you, genuinely

I'm going to give the beta one more try now. If I join a match full of shotguns or it takes longer than a few minutes to find a match I'm uninstalling. Just thought you all would like to know.

>>718214935
It’s not actually, at least when compared to BC2 and BF3.
BF4 is when map size got a lot bigger.

>>718194609
BF2 in my opinion was the only kino BF game.

>>718214958
I don’t think about you at all

What's a worse form of cheating in this game: Aim assist controller users cheating aim or people using headphones to cheat hear enemy players?

>BF2/2142/3/4/1/V
>LMGs are exclusive to the Support class
>they feel good relative to the other weapons in the game

>BF6
>all weapons are open to every class
>LMGs feel like absolute trash compared to almost every other option

Shouldn't LMGs be better than usual so people have some incentive to pick them instead of using ARs for everything? I know it's not just me because even in the locked weapons playlist I never get killed by them despite there being Supports fucking everywhere.

>>718214893
The mountain map is one of the largest maps in the game. The BF3 remake map is the biggest for main modes. Their "largest" map, Mirak Valley, is exclusive to the battle royale mode and will not be used in conquest or breakthrough.

t. Playtested all year and have played all but Mirak Valley and the Firestorm remake

>theres a flick option in controls
>it turns you either 180° or +-90°
Did anyone try this out? Seems like a very convoluted option.

>>718215159
The issue is how bad suppression is right now, I think they’ll get buffed though.

>>718215159
the LMG is the best gun in the game by far and it's not even close. 34 damage a shot. 100 bullets. zero recoil. did you even play the game before typing all that trite?

>>718215170
>Their "largest" map, Mirak Valley, is exclusive to the battle royale mode and will not be used in conquest or breakthrough.
>my source is that I made it the fuck up

>>718215083
Considering half the PC players are using actual cheats, I'll go with neither. Especially since footstep audio is busted anyway.

>>718215228
Source is the truth. Please stop trying to get your hopes up when I'm telling you that there are no bigger maps coming besides the one that is only for a mode nobody wants.

>>718214961
Yeah you’re going to end up uninstalling 100%

>>718215280
>Source is the truth.
Uh huh

>>718215013
Why no love for 1942, the one that started the series? 2002: 64 players(even 128 player modded servers), 34 vehicles, tons of awesome maps and mods.

>>718215193
Suppression only stops the COD speed health regen. It does nothing else. Why you might ask? Probably because if would upset the crowd of COD players they are trying to entice if they couldn't fight back against someone who is prepared for them.

>>718215224
>34 damage a shot
Both LMGs do 25 damage. I don't think there's any automatic weapon that does more than 33.

>did you even play the game before typing all that trite?
Did you?

>>718215341
I loved 1942 so much.

>tfw you spend a whole match trying to drive the aircraft carrier and end up beaching it

>>718215390
just hit your shots you shitter

>>718215224
>34 damage a shot
At point blank maybe but the damage fall off is so severe you're already losing damage outside of shotgun range.

>>718215159
bc2 had medic lmgs iirc

also 2nd lmg with the acog is the best long range weapon
>>718215410
the galil does 34 dmg close up

>>718206506
this. he's just locked in. also he's in a state of transition so he's even more hyperfocused

all my matches feel incredibly algorithmic and inorganic: wipe one way, wipe the other way, close match, ad infinitum. the synic in me is saying that this is by design to keep people playing. I don't think I'll be buying this one, the price is fucking insane, and even at half price the core gameplay loop simply isn't fun it's now just cod-lite with paper vehicles. I'll just continue to play bf1 which is actually fun and the people still playing on the servers know how to actually play tactically which keeps it interesting instead of just zooming around the map looking for 360 noscopes
>fuck all supports who don't defib despite being 5m away

>>718215431
WHY ARE NONE OF THE NAVAL SHIPS DRIVEABLE IN THE NEW BATTLEFIELD GAMES?

>>718196813
battlefield 3 won so many awards it was insane. One of the best shooters of all time

>>718215553
>>718206506
>chuds still seething after a common L

>>718205463
Hacks like this are dime a dozen in every Battlefield game. Username appears to be Brazilian, which is predictable.

>>718206323
>>718211819
>>718215606
I still remember being in a BF2S forum discussing what people were expecting in BF3 and then we got BC2 and BF3 and it was clear they weren't looking out to please BF2 fans ever again. For me it was fun, little less than BF2 was but it killed the series for me and I started playing more PC focused FPS games like Tribes and arena shooters.

>>718215632
frfr *broccolis all over my gamer chair and bixsexual lighting RGBT+ keyboard*

>>718206323
bf3 won so many awards. Its one of the best shooters of our time
Gamers never experienced such freedom to do literally everything. No restrictions just go put c4 on everything

>>718215835
>grumpy 0.3 KDR aimlet boomer seethe
its okay to admit you are old and cant hang anymore against zoomers that grew up with twitch shooters like cod

>>718193537 (OP)
They saw battlebit's early success, and decided to dedicate dev time to the same ADHD run and gun playstyle.
What they didn't realize was battlebit died in under a year, but by then, EA's development was too big and expensive to hit the brakes on.

>>718216034
>they were looking at battlebit!
lol no they fucking weren’t. They brought in Vince to make MW2019 2 for them

>>718215970
The Battlefield games aren't supposed to be twitch ADD shooter nonsense. 1942, Vietnam, and 2 were slow paced and we liked them that way.

>>718216034
Ah yes the slow and tactical game that was BF3

>>718216075
I mean, I played both, and the same braindead run, jump and spray playstyle that worked in battlebit works extremely well here, where it'd get me instantly killed in BF1.
Granted, battlebit hardly invented that shit, but it was definitely the most recent form of the cancer.

>>718216132
There’s a game called Arma Reforger that you might like

>>718216171
What year is that from?

>>718216240
Thanks. I might check it out. I'm going to play BF6 just like the old Battlefield games. All my teammates can do the twitchy zoomer add stuff while I hang back and fire tank shells, repair things, and give ammo.

>>718216132
>1942
dc_lost_village says hi
>bf2
karkand says hi

both were the most popular maps in the game

>>718216216
And the game actually plays moe like MW2019 than anything else. You can say it reminds you of
Battlebit but it’s really MW2019

>>718216328
Play medic. or recon with an AR and place spawn beacons. zoomers don't know the concept of teamwork, so just having someone on a team that revives and plays objectives is infinitely better than a guy going after jangly key kills, and going 50-0 while having zero objectives completed.

>>718193537 (OP)
It's alright. If they made the maps a little bigger and nerfed 3D spotting it would vastly improve the game. It feels more like CoD Warzone than BF though, which is a little sad.
Classes also feel kinda off, but I heard they will adjust some things for the release version, maybe that will improve things.

>>718216347
The first map is for a 1942 mod called Desert Combat. And the gameplay in BF2, even in the infantry maps like Karkand, is still way slower than new Battlefield games. And, for the love of god, please don't post some video of someone in BF2 that starts spastically flicking their mouse around and pretending that's how people played. I played BF2 for almost 10 years and have thousands of hours in it; no-one played like that.

>>718216458
>I heard they will adjust some things for the release version, maybe that will improve things.
All they did was nerf Recon for Assault Babies and when people pointed out that was retarded, they advertised an alternate perk/ultimate ability for Recon... which turned out to be a fucking meme.

>>718216426
> just having someone on a team that revives and plays objectives is infinitely better than a guy going after jangly key kills, and going 50-0 while having zero objectives completed

this is insane cope and just wrong. killing enemy players is probably the best thing you can do to help your teammates capture the objective

>>718216528
I mean, you can cope with your positive KDR while holding the match loss, I guess.
That's not a hill I'm going to die on though.

>>718216426
Nice. I do that kind of stuff in Battlefield 5, especially when I'm able to climb onto the back of a tank as an engineer and repair the shit out of it. I've saved countless tanks from destruction and helped with so many conquest takeovers.

anyone else getting choppy frame times with dlss enabled?

>>718216528
How about he sits on the fucking point for 30 seconds instead of ADHD sprinting around to capture the point instead of going 58-12 while attacking in Breakthrough and losing?

>>718216571
you’re not going to capture the objective if you aren’t clearing enemies off it.

zoomies and cheating trannies go hand in hand

>>718216478
1942 mods were more popular than the main game, dice was literally made from the members of the mod team that created DC who then went to make bf2 (the best battlefield game to this date)

karkand frag videos dominated on video sharing websites and were regularly posted on bf2s and players like hintakaari were idolized. the only vehicle player whose videos were getting any attention was probably safrguns and only because the gimmicky nature of air shotting with tank gun.

the most popular aspect of bf2 was always inf only karkand, and eventually its successor operation metro.

>>718216580
Vehicles are a bit ass in the beta sadly. Hopefully they listen to feedback and at least give them a bit of a bump, but the beta feels purposefully infantry focused so far.

>>718216528
Then what's the point of a medic and support class? Repairing tanks, reviving and healing people, building things(dunno if that's in BF6, but it was in BF5), disarming land mines, etcetera. Logistics and support is just as important as pure combat units.

>>718216628
KD farmers will go out of their way to spray at any target they see, even if it gives away strategic positions. They'll throw a push just to grab an extra 2 kills over their one death, even if it means fucking with their squad's rotation.
It's actually hilarious.

>>718216426
>>718216571
>>718216593
put 32 players who go 50-0 and 32 players who are PTFO redditors and the redditors will get spawn camped 1000 games out of 1000.

people who got the highest kills on your team win the game for you. they are the people who let the PTFO redditors sit on the flag and pretend they are doing anything.

>>718216643
That sucks. All the marketing for the game seemed like vehicles were a huge factor("Battlefield is back to its roots!"), but it seems the developer just wants the Cawwa Doody audience.

>>718216649
Well that’s the good thing about battlefield, all players of all skill levels are able to contribute and help the team. Some players are effective at killing enemy players so they are best suited to do that and help clear the objective rather than focusing on support roles or sitting on a spotting drone all game

>>718215159
All the support players just use ARs because of open weapon cancer. LMGs are dogshit.

>>718216703
Translate this into english, doc.
But if you're trying to argue that if you dramatically stack the teams so they are lopsided, yeah one team is obviously going to win you retarded ape.

>>718216034
Battlebit was unironically more of a battlefield game than this trash.

>>718216751
you are already backpedaling lol, what happened to your retarded cope?
>so just having someone on a team that revives and plays objectives is infinitely better than a guy going after jangly key kills, and going 50-0 while having zero objectives completed.

>>718216730
Vehicle weapons are pretty good, it’s just that they’re all very fragile especially when engineers get a shitload of rockets.
I wouldn’t be surprised if vehicle health is buffed across the board.

>>718216685
>>718216649
>>718216593
>>718216426
just go to any stat tracking website that tracks W/L, pull up the win/loss ratio of enders or any actually good player and then compare it to your ass that sits on the flag with 0.3 KDR and you'll notice a VERY STARK difference

>>718216823
It’s crazy the copes Redditors come up with because skilled players make them insecure kek

>>718216823
>le cope
That's not backtracking you're just jumping to the most extremely hyperbolic example you could think of. But the previous point was still right. 4 kill farmers does not carry any game when they are off masturbating in a random distant corner while holding 1/5 flags and most of their team is being spawn camped.

>>718216913
You do realize people who play objectives also get kills, right?
The ones that run around the same building all round like a headless chicken farming frags and thinks they're actually helping are the problem.

>>718196813
What? No they didn't, most complaints were aimed at it being on Origin and using the battlelog site for a server browser.

retvrn

>>718212764
what do you need 128 players for goy?
I don't think you need 64 players
32 players is overkill
16 players is idea
HELP POLICE THIS MAN IS TRYING TO JOIN 8 PLAYERS TO THIS 4 PLAYER DEATHMATCH

>>718216978
You’re not going to go 50-0 sitting in one flag all game doofus. If your argument was that the snipers that sits in spawn and goes 10-0 is useless than you would make more sense.

>>718204152
BC2 is the 4th best battlefield anyway

>>718216978
>you're just jumping to the most extremely hyperbolic example you could think of.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO MADE UP THE COPE LOL DON'T TRY TO DISOWN IT NOW YOU COPING RETARD LOL >>718216426
>>718216978
>>718216978
>4 kill farmers does not carry any game when they are off masturbating in a random distant corner while holding 1/5 flags and most of their team is being spawn camped.
so you cry about hyperbole then make up your own? this is the IQ of your average PTFO redditor everyone
>>718216994
And you do realize someone who goes 50-0 is killing people on the objective because thats' where people are? so that you, the PTFO redditor on their team, can walk there and put down a supply crate then sit there prone, basically AFK, and dying if a single enemy looks your way.

>>718217070
>You’re not going to go 50-0 sitting in one flag all game doofus.
Uou're just making shit up now that nobody argued, in the biz we call that a "strawman".

>>718217047
I honestly feel bad for zoomers. A zoomoid born when 1942 came out would be 23 fucking years old now. They will never know just how good things were

>>718216913
You can't be serious, right? I think you're just ragebaiting at this point. This is my last response post to you:

People need reviving and healing, vehicles need repairs, flags need to be capped, mines need to be dismantled, people and vehicles need ammunition, things(bridges, strategic sandbags) need to be built, etcetera.

>>718217123
Why the fuck are you so obsessed with a shithole like reddit? Did your dad use reddit and molested you?

>>718217124
>Uou're just making shit up now that nobody argued
what's this then you stupid fucking nigger:
>"4 kill farmers does not carry any game when they are off masturbating in a random distant corner while holding 1/5 flags and most of their team is being spawn camped."

>>718217169
Running around on the fringe of the map farming stragglers for kills isn't doing shit.

>>718217070
They're useless if all the objectives are red, but they refuse to rotate or reposition to somewhere more advantageous to the team because they're farming the same couple retards pushing the same spot over and over.
Those guys are playing a game of retard whack a mole in a corner while the actual game is happening, and do the DSP surprise face when they lose.

>>718199672
No one cares about le heckin realism of it fag. It makes for terrible gameplay.

>>718217127
>zoomers BORN when BF2 came out are TWENTY YEARS OLD this year

They never even had a chance. Gaming was before their time. What they got was a shadow, a poor imitation of what came before it.

>>718217161
Why do you think someone 50-0 doesn't do that? Why do you keep strawmanning like going 50-0 and reviving is mutually exclusive?
>ragebaiting
nice twitter lingo, nigger
>>718217192
So you are inventing a scenario because you need to cope about your shit statline? Why would someone who's 50 kills be somewhere where there are less enemies?

>>718217193
Except do you know hard it is to get 50 kills in a conquest game sitting in the same objective and killing the same people over again? You have to rotate to other flags where there’s activity if you want to rack up kills, is this like your first day playing battlefield?

>Still need to click through a zillion menu screens to customize a gun
>Cannot customize weapons with recent unlocks on end score screen
>US and Russian VAs appear to be recycled from BF4 to include death screens and minor rewrites of the pointless callouts
>Pointless callouts feature "Uhhh FUCK there's a sniper spotted in the AT", while no sniper has been spotted by any friendly, nor appears on map
>Same shit for tanks, you receive useless callouts of someone jumping into a tank at main, because it always happens when there are no tanks nearby
>Commo rose is STILL useless 20 years after it had been perfected
>Choppers and jets are even more useless than in 4, completely irrelevant and not noticeable to the fight in the slightest
>STILL worse flight mechanics than it's predecessors 20 years ago
>Absolutely terrible lighting, sound design is mediocre, everything in general is painfully milquetoast mid
It's pretty disappointing when the only real addition a game makes is a drag/revive mechanic, which is already well behind the curve.

>>718212764
>>718217053
I remember playing the Battlefield 1942 Wake Island multiplayer demo with 128 player modded servers with janky 2002 internet speeds and servers. It was the most glorious thing I've ever seen in my life, and that was in 2002. I don't know what the hell the developer is doing with the series, but we need to go back. Anyone saying shit like "128 players is bad" is saying that because the developer made a shitty game that has like 2 vehicles in the massive map with 128 players.

>>718217234
Because they die when when they run into more than 2 people at a time when the 3rd guy also knows how to aim the gun AND play the objective.

>>718217253
50-0 was an intentional hyperbole to call out those people, but yes, I do think that people who sit and farm kills while contributing nothing else are throwing.

>>718193537 (OP)
it's just a further derivation into CoD-slop. Metro and Locker showed Dice retard grugs love spawning, getting one kill and dying, the faster the better.

Battlefield is 1000% about infantry and vehicle interaction with localized infantry fights around flags and 6 is just a neverending zerg swarm instead.

>>718217319
Well yeah that argument would make sense if you say the guy KD farming who went 15-0 camping in the same flag is useless. But you are implying that getting high amount of kills is not useful to the team at all when it’s actually the most useful thing you can do to help your team to win the game

>>718208369
is there no one shot kill spot on the tank any more like in bf2

>>718217312
why are you inventing a scenario where a guy whos 50-0 is also at the same time running in alone and won't also have miles better gamesense, aim, timing, positioning, reaction time and map awareness than the 0.3 KDR retard flag capper/repairmonkey to know when to push or not to push

>>718217319
so you invented a scenario where everyone whos got better stats than you is only because they are in a hypothetical edge of the map killing someone who is also on the edge of the map. what?

any more retarded copes from the PTFO monkeys?

>>718217253
>t. has never experienced a mortarnigger or ucavnigger

Does anyone know if there's any modding tools for BF6, or is the modding going to have to be brute forced somehow? I just want fun and creative 1942(Desert Combat, Action BF, Eve Of Destruction, Forgotten Hope) and 2 mods(Sandbox, Project Reality) for 6.

>>718217385
if you're 15-0 sitting in a corner, then you're a good shot and you can clearly do more by rotating.
a KD farmer wouldn't only be 15-0.
>>718217443
That's the funny thing. you DO get better scores on the scoreboard by playing objectives than if you just farmed kills. Hence why there are so many screens of people with like 40-50 kills per round, but they're still scored below people with near negative KDs, because they've actually played objectives or been reviving/ repairing

>>718217558
>That's the funny thing. you DO get better scores on the scoreboard by playing objectives than if you just farmed kills.
Nice argument retard. Every casual game hands out participation awards like crazy. I can sit in my base repairing a tank that does nothing all game but try to snipe people while some retards shoot RPGs at it. I've literally gotten 20k points a game doing that while the 2nd guy on my team is 9k or something back when I was doing challenges.

>>718217630
And what's your excuse when you lose then? your team? Let me guess, your team?

>>718217351
I only find the heavy zerging to occur on either breakthrough (which is designed for it) or on midpoints, which is hardly unique for the series.
I’ve had plenty of small local engagements around a point.

>>718217416
A single engineer with an RPG7 and the mine launcher can easily kill an unsupported tank.

However, a tank or IFV that has a few repair sluts is basically undeadable. The repair rate exceeds damage output from the opposing tank and/or a few engineers.

>>718217679
You mean when I lose a 50-0 game or when I lose a game doing nothing but repairing a useless tank? In the first case it's because the enemy team was significantly better, the latter case because I was an active detriment to my team.

>>718217534
There’s going to be Portal which is basically Forge mode this time around but I doubt there will be mod tools. And even if there Frostbite is legendarily difficult to use.

How different is BF6 compared to BF1 and BF5? I mean in terms of gameplay. Is it really that much faster?

>>718216132
I've a feeling that BF3, 4 and 6 would play exactly the same as BF2 if they were played on those exact BF2 maps. Look at that street, and compare it to the streets of Cairo in BF6. There's clutter everywhere, many narrow alleys etc. The distance to the next cover is minimal, but if the distances were as big as they were in BF2, running around would get punished fast.

>>718217716
If a tank stays alive for long enough that you're topping the leaderboard in repairs, then it's not a useless tank.
I think we just have different playstyles, brother, but damn, I hope yours works out for you.

>>718217443
Why are you inventing a scenarios for your own arguments but disregarding other scenarios more likely to happen ingame?

>>718217706
The problem with tanks that have healsluts is that you need to get behind them. The maps can make that pretty hard to pull off.

>ea fucked up with bf5 and 2042
>they need safe money NOW
>make a bf3 remaster, that's a good trick
>hire ex cod dev to make it smaller and more chaotic
i can see zoomers who have never played a bf title before loving it for the fast paced gameplay
but anyone who has played a bf title before would know better than paying full price for this

>>718217775
>If a tank stays alive for long enough that you're topping the leaderboard in repairs, then it's not a useless tank.
No, it absolutely is. If the tank is not getting any kills, or helping to push the objective it's a useless tank, and I am literally griefing the team by not letting it die and letting someone who can tank use it. But I am literally 20k points. I am griefing my team by I am 20k points, why? Is it because the whole notion you have of caring about the useless participation award scoreboard is dumb and the people going 50-0 are actually winning you the game?

>>718217803
Where did I invent a scenario? The guy already admitted he made up the scenario where a guy is going 50-0 on the edge of the map. Which scenario did I invent? The one where a guy going high KDR has better gamesense and ability to play the game than the guy who has vastly lower KDR?

>>718217757
The movement and gunplay are similar to V (and also 2042), it’s the maps that speed the pace of the game up dramatically. I don’t think the issue is even that 3/4 maps are small-medium sized and urban, it’s that the HQ spawns are basically right next to objectives.

>>718217842
The tank stayed alive for so long someone holding out a blowtorth topped the leaderboard from repairs (it was being shot at the whole game and didn't die) and repair-assists when the tank killed people. What the fuck is even your argument?

>>718217775
If you get more points from repairs than the tank manages to get from tanking it isnt a very good tank.

>>718217759
Nah TTK is significantly higher than BF6 and vehicles/character speed/gunplay is significantly different too.

>>718217889
>Where did I invent a scenario?
>>718216703

>reddit monkeys actually think they are better players with their negative KDR than someone going 50-0
imagine being in this much denial about being shit at the game holy shit

BF5 was the best BF game.

>>718217701
All the BF6 maps are tiny, it's always zerging, every mode, all the time.
Just look at the older titles, you had flags several hundreds of meters apart, you had limited sprint w/ cooldown and you spawned on the flag or on SL. If there were no transports, you were in for a small hike.

Nu-field flags are barely 100m apart from a neighbouring flag, you have infinite sprint, can spawn on any squadmate and the maps are built to funnel traffic so that you hit the enemy quickly, and you're spawning right back into it after death. Nonstop rootytooty point and shooty.

>>718217759
I think I agree. I have had some long range gun battles shooting across the C-point street on Cairo, it’s just that usually there’s a car or barricade or something blocking LoS.

>>718199672
>to be fair schizo babble
It's a game not real life. In real life you cannot hit people 300m away spraying 90% of your bullets will fuck off into the stratosphere.

>it's le reddit to play the objectives in a mode with objectives instead of playing TDM
it's just ragebait at this pont, so boring and sad

>>718217893
The tank stayed alive doing nothing is the problem. You kinda need your ONLY FUCKING TANK ON BREAKTHROUGH to do shit for you, you know? It's not rocket science

>>718217936
That was not an invented scenario at the time, since the guy who invented the 50-0 didn't claim the scenario was invented at the time.

>>718217982
>objectives
Where? All the game modes are TDM.

>>718217842
You're assuming that a tank driver that's bad enough to miss every shot and be a general negative for the team, be constantly eating rockets while still somehow being competent enough to avoid death to retreat for repairs is common.
I mean, fair enough, if the tank driver's a lucky retard, then I guess you were dealt a shit hand there.

>>718217963
>All the BF6 maps are tiny
They’re not. Cairo and Liberation Peak are roughly the same size as BF3’s mid sized maps.

Stop respondng to this brocolli-headed zoomer. His parents didn't love him, so he's trying to get attention here.

>>718217982
>twitter words
tourist nigger AND bad at the game, dont worry you'll break out of the negative KDR trenches soon enough

>>718206395
>play Conquest
I only play what some call Conquest Assault where one side has an uncap and the other doesn't. Regular Conquest sucks ass.

>>718217918
BF2 has similar TTK to BF6.

>>718205483
>this is why I only play with cheaters
Grim. All controller uses are cheaters but you knew that.

>64 players 20+ years ago, stretching what was possible DSL was only just getting widespread
>20 years before that WWW didn't even exist
>20 years later we're still at 64 players *sometimes* but in reality they really would prefer it if you'd play the 32 player versions even more

>holding A, B and C on Cairo
>team is spread wide enough on the C road crossing the map that the enemy cannot advance anywhere
>winning steadily
>eventually friendlies push either D or E or bunch up so that enemies can slip past to attack A & B
and this is why conquest is a flawed mode and has always been. at least it takes forever to capture by yourself so it's easier to counter ninjas.

>>718217918
Not on any longer ranges. Even rather close range you can get away with a lot by diving or sliding to cover as soon as you start taking damage you cant afford, especially if you get the knife out just to gtfo

>>718218025
> be constantly eating rockets while still somehow being competent enough to avoid death to retreat for repairs is common
Have you never played liberation peak on offense retard? You can easily have 1-2 people repairing the same tank eating RPG rounds non stop and not dying.

>>718218026
They are, as are the BF3 "mid size" maps. If you've played 1942 thru 2142, you'd understand the differences in physical scale and the effects of gameplay on it.

>>718217940
it’s same shitters who get mad at you for not reviving them when there’s like 50 enemies near their body

>>718194372
>Hence the constant vacillating
There is none they're lying. They always lie. If they truly wanted to know they'd split the days up.
4 hours of open 4 hours of closed and then reverse it the next day 4 hours closed 4 hours open

>>718218145
>1942 thru 2142
1942 maps are tiny dude. BF2 is when maps got substantially bigger.

>>718218026
the size is irrelevant if the average combat distance drops from 75 to 25 meters. density of the map is key, which is why empire state is a clusterfuck. it's like playing in a block of cheese with lots of holes and tunnels in it.

>>718217759
>games with self hosted servers would totally play the same
They play completely differently due to this simple fact. EA servers are run as cheaply as possible and the game suffers as a result.

>>718218179
Font forget that they have challenges for breaktrough and rush his weekend which you can't play with closed weapon

>>718194372
They are absolutely going to make a fuckload of money off this game, at any rate.

>>718211191
Making points actually defendable AND takeable requires a master level designer that DICE has not had in about 2 decades. They don't actually facilitate any way to CONQUER points and HOLD them. The maps are designed for you to cap them and keep running, then just come back and do it again back and forth. Nothing in the game's inherent design facilitates old 1942/Battlefield 2 ways of playing and DICE is proud that it doesn't.

>>718218179
They're not even lying in this case. They obviously prefer open weapons. The game is balanced around them, nearly every mode is open with closed hidden away at the back. They're being entirely open about the fact they don't like closed and don't think we should be playing it.

>>718217969
>long range gun battle
>hold fire
>man dies
Thrilling stuff. No recoil to consider.
>>718218278
You can play closed breakthrough but it's mixed with Conquest. Whoever makes the playlist decisions is a troll.

>>718218315
Then closed wouldn't be a thing at all they'd just say tough shit. By putting closed in at all they have become lying mother fuckers.

>>718218232
It's the worst thing in FPS multiplayer gaming that the grandiosity of Battlefield 2's maps wasn't revisited with tweaks and 128 player servers. 128 players was an alpha feature of BF2 and what a lot of those mindbogglingly large China maps like Dalian and Dragon Valley were designed for before the max was set to 64. It's why they feel so empty and no one played them.

>>718218124
It's incredible how things stagnated after 2010 (incidentally the year tech jobs really started getting pushed to India)

I don't think zoomers can appreciate that Crysis (2007) looked a played better than modern "games" do with all their ray-tracing and other retarded shit. Remember playing crisis with those texture packs and graphics mods?

I look at games now, 17 years later, and think "it doesn't even look as good as vanilla crysis" meanwhile 17 years before that we were only just getting super mario world.

>>718218242
Empire State is no different from BF3 CQC maps. They all had extremely short engagement ranges.
Cairo and Iberian Invasion are mixed between CQC and shooting lengthways down streets. Liberation Peak is mostly medium-long range engagements.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills do people really not remember the BF3 launch maps outside of Firestorm, Metro, and Caspian Border?

>>718218026
nah man, cairo is 70% invisible walls out of bounds. its grand bazaar slop, and you cant destroy buildings to make flank routes every point just has 1 main corridor entry then that one copypasted building where it has door, small room without door, 90 degree angle, another small room + door.

it's just pure slop.

Maps are garbage. Only the mountain map is a little above average. Movement is good. Shooting is okay, pretty similar to bf4. UI is absolute garbage. No server browser on the horizon. Remind me, why people are hyped about this?
Also, a little observation, how the fuck is possible that each time I peak and there is a tank or a bradley, they seem to always know where I am and start shooting me instantly? Have you noticed that? This is super unusual, I've never felt anything like that in any BF before.

>>718218232
>1942 maps are tiny dude

El Alamein, Midway, Guadacanal, Battle Of The Bulge, Operation Market Garden. Are you sure you have the right game? Just El Alamein is around 2 square miles.

>>718218380
>do people really not remember the BF3 launch maps
No they don't.

>>718218052
No it doesnt by principle that the guns behave wildly different. Support is going to spam his weapon for an hour before anything does.

TTK is also widely inconsistent depending on the faction you play and whether you have Special Forces weapons unlocked or not. In BF6 TTK is widely consistent across all automatic weapons. It doesnt matter if its LMG,SMG or AR or Carbine.

>>718218396
Nah mountain map is just sniper valley to your spawn.

>>718218368
Cot damn son. Imagine if instead of this GARBAGE SLOP (BF6), we got a remake of BF2. Same maps, same music, modern graphics and sounds.

There are some alternate universe fuckers getting that and we get this.

>>718218293
Skill issue. My buddies and I had a game on Liberation Peak where we single handedly defended the F point to come back from a 300 ticket deficit despite their main being right next door.
Some points are easier to defend than others. This is nothing new to Battlefield.

>>718218396
>why people are hyped about this?

EA pays sickening shills like JackFags and LevelCrap to pretend it's good. Monkey see monkey do.

>>718218396
>Remind me, why people are hyped about this?
Because it’s a polished multiplayer shooter that probably won’t have Nicki Minaj skins

>>718218380
>I feel like I’m taking crazy pills do people really not remember the BF3 launch maps outside of Firestorm, Metro, and Caspian Border?
Not really. I cant think of a single BF3 or 4 map that is anything like empire state.

>>718218397
:(

Take me back bros.

>>718218364
I take them including closed as them saying "here's your mode, we won't support it, now shut up" rather than pretending they like it. Maybe I'm being too generous.
For me the lying is when they act like the full game will totally have large maps and we totally love having actual battlefields in our Battlefield. The beta is three small maps and one medium, but the full game will be way bigger. We're just hiding the big maps until release because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we just are. Obvious bullshit, game is going to be tiny because that's what it's designed around.

>>718218448
At least it is reasonably sized and has aircrafts. An above average map to me.

>>718218232
>Alemein, Gazala, Karkhov
Not only are they large maps, the relatively low movement speed in earlier titles lends to the perception that they're even larger.

6's maps not only are physically smaller, but the ability to be across the map in a minute, on foot makes them feel even smaller. Back to my original point, 6's maps are small, and its just zerg shoot die respawn fest like CoD.

>>718218392
>its grand bazaar slop
It is substantially larger than Grand Bazaar though, which is my entire point.

>>718218368
you are probably confusing the maps. dalian plant was one of the top vehicle/sniper maps. i remember there even being 24/7 dalian plant servers

>>718217275
>Cannot customize weapons with recent unlocks on end score screen
This pisses me off every time. It's such an obvious QoL failure I refuse to believe that no one on the dev team noticed it. They're taunting the player on purpose.

>>718218380
CQC was a whole ass expansion that didn't run in normal rotations. You'd literally have to join a CQ server if you wanted to play it. (CQ hardcore was a lot of fun btw).

But BF6 doesn't even have a sever browser.

You VILL player on unmoderated servers.
You VILL NOT control map rotation.
You VILL play all shitty maps in rotation.
You VILL play with console peons even if you don't want you.
You VILL be killed by console peasant aimbots (aim assist).

And you VILL preorder it, because you are cattle.

>>718218457
No there isn’t, because it’d flop in every universe. You can cash in on nostalgia for a single player game. Multiplayer nostalgia never fucking works because there aren’t enough boomers to sustain servers.
Young people play multiplayer shooters. This has always been the case.

I've played Space Marine for a full night straight, Black Myth Wukong for the entirety of today. Games that completely hammer your system at 4k. Yet it's Dice's apparently flawless game that is giving me direct x errors within seconds upon entering a match that i need to 'fix' my system. As people continually keep telling me on the steam forums, that it's my fault and my hardware isn't good enough. I'm not buying it, this has been 10 times worse than BF4's launch period.

I can't say if it's 50 series drivers, but i don't know if it really is.

>>718218560
doesnt play any different. the meatgrinder gameplay in corridor with 5 assaults spamming fire bombs into the corridor just shifts left or right depending which team has the advantage in the skill level of the noobtuber+medic monkeys

>>718218595
>you are probably confusing the maps
I was thinking of Daqing. Also FuShe Pass and Songhai Stalemate. If I barely recall the article I read a long time ago FuShe was the first production map made when they still thought they were getting 128 player servers.

>>718218558
>Not only are they large maps, the relatively low movement speed in earlier titles lends to the perception that they're even larger.

Even in 2042's Portal mode of El Alamein, where you're able to sprint, it took me around 10 minutes to cross the entire map.

>>718218545
you can still play it. i played it like 3 days ago. look up on google.

>>718218542
Grand Bazaar? Operation Locker? The entire BF3 Close Quarters DLC?

>>718218639
>I refuse to believe that no one on the dev team noticed

India.

You think games are still developed by cool white guys drinking energy drinks, listening to metal and making the games they want to play anymore?

lol. It's all outsourced to pajeets who don't give a fuck about gaming. Didn't grow up with gaming and don't even really like gaming.

These 45 year old codemonkey jeets writing games today don't even play them, they just do it for the $5000 a year paycheck.

>>718218652
Literally any Battlefield 2 map runs circles around the 'best' map DICE has put in one of their games in 15 years. You're pretending to be retarded by inferring that BF2 was a cult hit or not very popular. It was one of the biggest FPSes of the 2000s.

>>718218652
BF2 was 20 years ago. 95% of the gaming audience is too young to have ever played it. To them it'd be an entirely new game. The difference? designed back when games were fun, instead of the garbage slop we get today.

It'd be a hit, you fucking retard

>>718218546
Anon Mirak Valley has already been datamined. It’s Narvik sized.

>>718218652
>Multiplayer nostalgia never fucking works because there aren’t enough boomers to sustain servers

There's still people playing Battlefield 2. DICE / EA would do amazing marketing for a Battlefield 2 remaster(or remake) and everyone, young and old, would play the shit out of it.

>>718218558
Then play Squad if you want to walk around a big empty desert I guess?

>>718218680
songhua stalemate i think is from the last official update. a free map so cant be too critical about it. unless im thinking of something else. it was definitely some inf only foggy/misty type of map, pretty good imo.

i agree fushe pass was kinda ehh for me, and it sort of stands out for how big it is.

>>718218839
>songhua stalemate i think is from the last official update
No it's not quit fucking with my memory. You're thinking of Pearl River or whatever the fuck, that was a surprise free map in the game's final update.

>>718193537 (OP)
>>neglect to include a single fucking map that showcases battlefield gameplay
Its honestly baffling, the maps are the absolute worst part of the beta and completely turned me off buying this
Its just non stop call of duty cancer, and gunplay/ttk/movement make it so it doesnt even feel like operation metro etc. at all
They called this a return to form and then made a beta that only shows off whats different

>>718218898
oh yeah I remember this. didnt like it at all. i think most servers had it out of rotation.

>>718218825
No. We want to play a Battlefield game, where big maps and vehicles are king. Having a Sherman versus Tiger tank battle on El Alamein is a glorious thing. Even using the Priest(artillery tank) was awesome with someone spotting for you with their binoculars.

>>718218651
I’m not just talking about the DLC maps. BF3 had a 9 maps at launch, three were very small, three were medium sized, and three were large.
BF6 is doing the same thing. Three small (Empire State, Iberian Invasion, Saints Quarter), three medium (Siege of Cairo, Liberation Peak, Manhattan Bridge), and three large (Mirak Valley, Operation Firestorm, New Sobek City).
You can disagree with the decision here but there is precedent.

>>718218901
they clearly have done it to draw cod players in, small maps the same dogshit fast play, fast flips 360 no scope. Running around with a 1 shot shotgun and little to no recoil. Will shall see how the larger maps go in the full release and what Portal will do. But if it is more of the same then it will just be for cod players as it is all about numbers for EA

>>718218901
"We want that Cawwa Doody money! Big maps? Vehicles? Lol that's for losers. Battlefield is back, baby!"

>>718218942
May have to rely on Portal to do all that as the official maps are going for CoD players. They are hyping Portal but without revealing anything as if it is a given you can move assets around and create maps. Might well be just maps are provided and you can alter things tho

>>718218743
That's the truth rarely brought up anymore. Games were good when made by people who played them. Now it's a career filled with one or two redditor managers with 97% of the dev team being indians in india on zoom. It's all interchangeable, it's all checkboxes, it's all corporate. And it blatantly feels that way. I never pick up a AAA game anymore and feel like oh this is cool some guy on the team did this cuz it was cool. I 100% of the time sense 'market research told them to make the UI element like that'.

>>718218780
I never fucking said that retard. But you can’t argue with data. Battlefield sales tripled with BC2 and just exploded with BF3. 3, 4, and 1 were by far the three most popular games in the franchise by a mile and it’s obvious they are trying hard to replicate that.
BF2 has stellar maps and the sandbox is unmatched by any other game in the franchise (except maybe 2142) but the movement and gunplay sucked even for its time and trying to replicate that would be a flop.
>hurr just make it modern
Then it’s not Battlefield 2 and I don’t know if BF2 maps work without that gunplay and movement.
>>718218793
No it wouldn’t.
>>718218814
A tiny amount. Largely irrelevant. And no, it would do okay at best and be a novelty for some but boomers would go back to working and zoomers would go back to their zoomer games.

Remaking BF2, even perfectly, would never be a smash hit.

>>718218998
people have been doing forensics on the bf6 firestorm and it looks cut down

>>718219173
>Battlefield sales tripled with BC2
Battlefield 2 was PC only. The first truly online console generation didn't release until several months after BF2 launched. You weren't there it's plain and easy to tell. You're reading from what's to you is a literal history book full of facts and figures. Fuck off.

>>718219046
Skill issue. I’m sorry you’re old

>>718219119
I hope they'll at least bring back 1942's El Alamein and Battle Of The Bulge maps. Is it possible for people to create their own full maps(not some severely limited Portal maps)?

>>718219202
Source? As far as I know the only map data we have that’s been datamined so far is Mirak and whatever Eastwood is.

>>718218901
They want a combination of close range CoD gunplay, with the illusion of large scale BF combat, without fully committing to either one.
It'll be interesting to see how long the game lasts, or if people ever see through the fact that it's just a half-assed mashup of things that they think both playerbases like.
Or maybe, just to not be overly pessimistic, they hit the needle on the head, and this is what the new audience for shooters want.

>>718219173
BF2 Maps already dont work in BF3 becazse they were made with limited viewing distance in mind.

BF3 Karkand is retarded because you have infinite viewing distance.

>>718219231
I am so sorry that I don't play Valorant, Fortnite or Apex Legends. My bad.

>>718219251
>Battlefield's UI has looked exactly the same for almost 15 years now
HAVE THEY CONSIDERED TRYING *LITERALLY ANY OTHER COLOR SCHEME*?

they're gonna listen to the codfags who say they prefer it this way then not buy it lmao

>>718219228
How does that change anything? Objectively more people played BC2 and BF3 than BF2. To the majority that’s what Battlefield is.
>You weren't there
I was, actually. I even bought Special Forces the day it came out. BF2 is easily the best game in the series even if the gunplay sucked.
But I’m not deluded enough to think that a remake would be some mega hit. It would do okay at best and become a niche title after a month or two.

>>718219267
the promo image. the sniper mountain is either gone or moved and people are coping about it.

also if they're doing the nu-field vehicle spawn from the UI, not really sure if they will keep the airfields.

>>718218742
Was operation locker the bunker complex in snowy mountains? Wasn't it quite long and narrow just like metro, with just 1 more lane to use? Empire state is a box where the enemy can be anywhere

>>718219173
>but the movement and gunplay sucked even for its time
I'd prefer having stamina and dolpin diving over constant running and sliding

>>718219347
Nah CoDfags will buy it just like they bought BF1. You’re delusional if you don’t think this is about to be the best selling game in the franchise regardless of fan reception lol.

>>718219379
That’s not why BF2’s movement sucks anon. Just the way your character moved felt really jank.

>>718218595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nstb5kb-1cI

>>718219451
>Just the way your character moved felt really jank
tell me you never managed the jump up to the roof next to the hotel flag on karkand without telling me you never managed the jump up to the roof next to the hotel flag on karkand

>>718219519
It's a 15 year old making vague statements just trying to rile you up. He has never touched BF2 in his life.

>>718219359
If they do trim Firestorm down then they deserve all the shit they’re gonna get lmao.

>>718219519
KEK i remember this somehow. i even remember how the usmc had a lot of weird parkour routes to get the the notorious 1st flag

>>718219519
>the movement and shooting were generally bad by 2005 standards
>oh yeah but what about “totally irrelevant movement tech”
What an odd post. It’s okay to admit games have flaws anon.

>>718219119
dadboomergamer here
the modding trailer made me incredibly hopeful but I'll wait and see what reality is.
i think they have bigger plans to monetize the modding tools almost like Roblox or Minecraft Store fronts. My kid is already starting to ask for currency. $12 for mod that adds camping gear or some shit.
One would think EA, being the greedy corporate fucks they are, at least consider the possibility.
Might not happen in BF6 fully, but I bet they're trying. They tried once with Battlefield Heroes but basically gave it no support.

>>718219987
BF Heroes was just way ahead of its time.

>>718219741
yeah from the fence up to the little sign overseeing the flag
>>718219742
and movement was not one of those flaws, I can admit that the gunplay got better with BC2

>>718219742
it's far from useless. cuts down rotating by maybe 10 sec and stops you from getting caught out while climbing up a ladder right in front of the main route to the hotel point.

>>718220012
Huh...i did a search and this popped up:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2504090/Heroes_of_Valor/
Its a clone that looks ... interesting

>>718219987
There is scripting so if they allow a bit of freedom people could make something very different. They said even top down shooters can be done. I mean it is one way to cut off any potential 3rd party from basically saying EA and DICE have given up and are just going for the CoD crowd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_tV9vmeerw&t=2s
Maybe there is a lot of cheaters in the beta I noticed a few guys whipping to me instantly and blasting my head off while I was head glitching. How often does this game make you say hmmmm me? at least a few times a match

>>718220237
Yeah but I dont know how much of that is cheaters or just netcode issues and console player advantages.
Not sure if cheaters wouldn't be the better option.