Thread 718245637

They spent too much time on the dlc before realizing it wasn’t great, then rushed out a half-baked version anyway.

it lost it's focus

>>718245637 (OP)
The DLC is fine, I think I only have a few issues with them:
- The final planet feels half baked
- Gleba should have better enemies
- Ships shouldn't have "width" as determining speed characteristic, wtf is that about

>>718246450
>- Gleba should have better enemies
Other planets should have enemies. No the worms in their cuckboxes don't count as enemies.
>- Ships shouldn't have "width" as determining speed characteristic, wtf is that about
The space physics is retarded as fuck. The 10 m/s static velocity modifier towards whatever planet you're closest to, and the width-based "drag" factor is also confusing and retarded. I can understand why they did the velocity, but the width thing is just plain fucking retarded given the weight already changes how much thrust affects the speed. The least they could have done to make it make sense would be to make the small asteroids leech off some of your momentum when they collide with the platform, but they did it in the most lazy and retarded way possible.

>>718245637 (OP)
Then don't play it.

>>718245637 (OP)
Gleba was 100% rushed.
And Aquillo was unfinished. They literally revealed the expansion with Aquillo's brain floating enemy, and then they scrapped it.
What a fucking crock of shit.
Honestly. What a disappointment.
Not to mention the rocket launching is easier but unfinished. They fucked up and should have worked on it to make it more accessible. Everything should be able to be automated without having to resort to network circuitry nonsense all the time.
Or at the very VERY least, if that's necessary, then make a fucking tutorial for it.
But they're lazy like you said. These assholes don't care about new players at all.
Even veterans hated the expansion.
Doshington is literally not doing any videos on it because he fucking hates it but can't come out and say it cause the devs might get defensive.

>>718245637 (OP)
I am playing this game now and greatly enjoying it. One of the best games I have played in years. Will be going to vulcanus shortly. However, seeing as you have made a whiny nothing thread with no actual criticisms I will wait until this thread dies to make an actual on-topic video game thread for discussion and posting gameplay.

>>718247141
The only reason you enjoy it now is because you know jack shit about the game. 80 hours is literally a drop in the bucket. You're still new.

2.1 will fix everything and nerf all the OP shit like getting quality stuff easily
Trust the plan

even with cut content and unfinished planets it's arguably one of the greatest expansions of all time

>>718247245
>>718247141
>>718247120
while we're still complaining, the fact that recycling KEKED the productivity research over is fucking ridiculous
>this single item has a 25% chance to return materials, therefore EVERYTHING but mining has a 300% productivity cap, and the research costs go up exponentially to make it hard for you to get it up to level 30!
like why the fuck does rocket part productivity inherit this 300% productivity cap? it's so fucking lazy and rushed

>>718245637 (OP)
>88 achievments
Heil Hitler!

>>718247120
>Gleba was 100% rushed.
Gleba is the most feature rich part of the expansion what are you talking about?

>>718245637 (OP)
Whats half baked?
The only thing I dont like about the DLC is how hard it is on default settings. You have to be knowledgeable enough to go fast and not make too many mistakes.
Its much better on railworld or no attacks.

>>718247141
>>718247245
I have 64 hours and I didn't even moved on past the oil stage.............. Also I finished the free demo too before playing the game, so I didn't start cold turkey...........

But I dropped the game years ago. It's a very good game, but it's like a second job. I want to be a degenerate and chill, not THINKING

>>718247512
Gleba was "finished" (it was basically just 30 different types of trees that dropped entire resources, like a plastic tree, lubricant tree (you can still see the pipe on the agri tower where the lubricant was supposed to come out)), but they dropped it down to 2 right at the last minute because they felt like it was too easy. It's likely that their experience working on all the other shit allowed them to turn it into a more fulfilling/better experience when they redid it, and they really should have done the same to the other planets.

>>718247392
The first three planets are fun. Aquilo is lame as fuck and the shattered planet ending is beyond disappointing. When I saw that the final science was literally "NUMBER GO UP" I quit playing that save after Aquilo and waited for new mods.
They could have at least tossed in some alternative space platform items/upgrades instead of just leaving it all to quality. Hell, even a different textured space platform that looked "finished" would have been neat to show we're closer to making the original ship we crashed on.

>>718247660
>I want to be a degenerate and chill
go to reddit then

>>718247695
So Gleba is the opposite of rushed

>>718247512
There were people here on /v/ and in /egg/ that got invited to the LAN party right before the release of the game and Gleba wasn't anywhere close to what it is now. Iron and copper had to be mined from tiny patches, biolabs didn't exist, and tons of recipes were grindy and awful. After the LAN players voiced these concerns they quickly went back to the drawing board and basically redid Gleba entirely.
If you don't believe the other anons or me you can literally read the devs talk about it here.
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-431

>>718247889
It's rushed in the sense that they reworked it last minute, but yes if we're looking it how much actual "work" went into it then I'd say it's the best planet.

>>718248007
That would make sense if it was entirely different from it's original design, a full pivot, but it isn't. They just refined the original design.

>>718247141
How is Shadow Empire? I've had that on my radar for a while.

>>718248098
The original design was 11 different types of trees.

>>718248243
And?

It's grossly unfinished.
I expected more new enemies on Nauvis, maybe some neutral creatures, birds or deer or something.
All the new planets seem plain and boring. Gleba is the most interesting and it sucks. Just send a tank and destroy everything red nearby and you will never have to build base defenses. Vulcanus is way too easy. Fulgora has a stupid name and is boring though the lightning mechanic is interesting it's way too easy. Aquilo is painful for no good reason - the heat mechanic is stupid (why can't buildings have their own heaters using electricity? why are heat pipes such a pain in the ass?).
The space platform is an interesting idea but badly implemented. Why can't I have holes in my platform? Why does width affect top speed? Why can't I transfer items between platforms?

>>718248292
And they cut it down to 2 because Earendel was retarded. Then they had to go back and completely change the entire planets progression because the bio portion didn't connect with the ore portion. It was a full pivot

>>718248379
No it wasn't, turning Gleba into Vulcanus would've been a full pivot. The concept is still the same.

>>718248454
Nice goalpost moving.

>>718248528
I think you just don't know what it means for something to be rushed.

>>718248528
>>718248730
This is why these threads are bad. It has nothing to do with the game, its just meaningless squabbling. OP isn't playing the game, there was no reason for this thread to be created.

>>718248839
Cry about it more bitch.

header/splash OPs are always complete and utter dogshit

>>718247120
>without having to resort to network circuitry
I think this is what really killed it for me. Circuitry used to be optional, but with Space Age it felt almost mandatory to use on spaceships to get anything done that was vaguely optimized. Had to copy & paste spaceships from the web and just hope it worked correctly.

>>718247120
why must you invoke his name

>>718248839
If you want to talk about factorio go to the factorio thread. /v/ is for hentai and current events

Every thread on video games will be undermined by a whiny attention whore who doesn't play anything

>>718249451
I learned how to get a platform working better with circuits, the bare basics are not hard, but there are things you can do with them that definitely are.
It just sucks dick cause they clearly didn't know what the fuck they were doing at the Lan party. And afterwards there was still a ton of work to do.
They refused to delay after realizing how fucking shit everything was. Assholes.

>>718251181
What video games did you play today? Post a screenshot of your recently played games on steam

>>718251295
Post tits first.

>>718249451
You can honestly get by with filtering using splitters. But circuit networks are dead simple and after starting to use them, it feels weird playing without them.

>>718251657
So nothing. Got it. You're just here to make your 30th general today. Why is so much of /v/
>hey doods comin at ya 90843657th recurrent thread that's just a picture of box art or a screenshot I pulled off amazon
and then 30+ year old neets that play nothing but moldy old hyper casual games dogpile in to cry about how the game has a minor obstacle. It's all re-runs. If you were playing a video game you would have made a thread for that game, with gameplay, not a garbage OP like this.

>>718249451
You don't need anything more complex than "meteorite > [number]".
Sounds like you weren't even willing to look at it and voided your run by copying something online.

>tard still complain about QUALITY modules
at this point, you 3rd world fags are doing it on purpose
you can easily disable it from the game, it's even in tutorial. It's jsut a mod
OR
use mod that removes quality modules and gives everything performance of a legendary quality

OP will bump this thread for the next 20 hours. He'll take it all the way to bump limit.

>>718252252
wtf I love OP now

>>718245637 (OP)
This thread was made by a forever online janny that is asshurt about actual video game threads that aren't just bait.

>>718245637 (OP)
Fulgora really needed it's own enemy. Without one there's no agency, making the planet feel boring.
Personally I like the idea of an enemy that cannot hurt the player, but instead they latch onto accumulators and suck electricity from the grid.
If you ignore them too long, your base will completely run out of power.

>>718252672
Its so odd, every single thread has the same exact posts complaining the same exact things over and over. It's very obvious it one very mentally ill person.
>>718252708
Like I've seen this post 30 times already. Its like a bot is making it. No human being can be this vapid, its impossible for someone to live like this.

>>718252000
because everyone migrated to /vg/ or /vm/ or /vr/ or /vst/ or /vrpg/ or an altchan or a discord or anything else
there's 0 reason to make an actual thread on /v/ knowing full well it'll just die out to the 100 threads/hour landfill

>>718253826
the assclown who made the thread is almost certainly some retard from /vg/. which is why the thread is formatted the way it is. newfags think generals are normal. this also ruined /a/ which is now completely unusable because its a handful of retards deepthroating each other in generals and dailies that have been ongoing for years. calling out these people needs to normalized again.

>>718247141
keep going pimp

gleba>nauvis=>fulgora>>>vulcanus
in terms of how interesting each planet is to play on

Also quality is a shit mechanic that actively makes the game worse, never research that garbage, unfun AND overpowered

I did a gleba only run where i start there, and it was painful, but when you're figuring it out, a lot of fun. It's legitimately an interesting change to how factories work, and I wish there were more uses for biochambers and mechanics like it. Really my only problem with the planet is the lack of stone, and how in vanilla, coal is locked behind research that requires coal


Fulgora is interesting, but kind of samey. I'd like it more if there was just more going on there in terms of industrial processes (i dont think having enemies would improve it). I think conceptually its very interesting, there's just not enough there.

Vulcanus is just easy and boring, coal runs out but everything else is free. yay

i dont think enemies are the solution to the various issues - to me, it's the agriculture and spoilage that make gleba interesting, and the pentapods are one of its weaker aspects, they're just too strong to reliably defend against, so you just go out with mines or a tonk and pre-emptively clear them.
In general i'd say enemies are only interesting when you HAVE to defend against them, attacking is uninteresting and shouldn't be optimal.

anyway gleba best

>>718254239
>I did a gleba only run where i start there, and it was painful, but when you're figuring it out
I'm assuming you have to cheat or you won't have access to coal.

>>718254142
meds

>>718254440
the mods that give you a gleba start will make the tech unlock much earlier.
it's never technically required, you could use pipes to block expansions long enough to rush a rocket, get to vulcanus or nauvis, and get coal there, but it's just stupid design, you shouldn't need to jump through these hoops to get military science on the planet where it matters most

>>718254679
Watch this thread hit bump limit because OP will bump it all day just like a general. He will prove me right.

>>718245637 (OP)
Oh great, guess we can't have factorio threads any more. More twitter screencaps and RPG threads it is then.

>>718254768
fags on /v/ have been samefag bumping their shitty threads until they gain traction since 2008
it's /v/ "culture" that crossed over to /vg/, not the other way around

>>718245637 (OP)
What I hate the most is instead of having the new planets unlock 100% new techs, they took previous vanilla tech and locked some of them behind the new planets. So stuff that was relatively easy to unlock before now requires you to travel to a different planet to unlock.
That's incredibly unrewarding and overall feels like a tedious chore.

gleba was 100% ludo

>>718254142
the catalog was a mistake

>>718255062
It's absolutely /vg/ which is why threads are getting faster and faster while the boards is getting slower and slower because most posts are just page 10 bumps and someone puking out threads constantly. If you make more than 2 threads a week you're doing something very wrong. /vg/ is 99% just bumping, which drags the level of discussion to the bottom of the barrel. /vg/ is just a nesting ground for redditors tourists who then transplant themselves here once the tumor has grown large enough. /vg/ is having the opposite effect it was originally intended to have.

>People are mad at your favorite train building game for non-train related reasons

couldn't be me lmao, I wish some modder made underground train rails

>most posts are just page 10 bumps
to hit page 10 in /vg/ takes 1 hour of no posts
meanwhile on /v/:
anyway i'm guessing you're just OP trying to bait out an argument to keep the thread bumped or some shit, so you got me i've been bamboozled and epic hooked

>>718245637 (OP)
It's better than ever