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Will the one-two-three punch of Time Stranger / Beatbreak / Alysion lead us to a Digimon Renaissance?

Technically we've been in a renaissance since 2017
You could argue earlier with the start of Tri

>>718281152 (OP)
As long as Bandai Namco doesn't fumble the ball again. It seems like they don't know what to do with the series most the time. Any successes seem like they go 'that went well, so lets try something different'. To their credit, at least they keep trying stuff. I like the card game.

Nobody trusts them after feeling like they were mislead by Survive

thoughts on the collab?

>>718282449
I have no idea what that game is

>>718281152 (OP)
Time Stranger has the potential to be the first Mainstream Digimon game, however it looks so cheap that I doubt it. The card game is not even on PC so no one cares

>>718282449
If I wanted to play grindy unreal engine slop I'd play super rumble instead of gachaslop.

>>718281152 (OP)
i miss the old card game, giving you 3 options depending on who you're facing with, short and simple abilities and limited option for evolutions

>>718288315
Do you mean Digital Card Battle for the PS1 or the paper one that had raped rules in the west?

When's the Digimon TCG app being released?

>>718281152 (OP)
Time Stranger looks fucking great

>>718282221
I have no idea why everyone expected that desu

Today I finished my first Digimon game. A few days ago I asked what the Story games were about and so I decided to play the very first one to verify. This game was actually pretty fun, going completely blind. I thought the gameplay loop of scanning a Digimon at the start of every encounter and then recruiting them pretty addicting. The amounts of walking and frequency of encounters are very high but it didn't bother me until the second beach area where you fight that turtle guardian at the end and the second visit to the factory where you have to search and fight three niggas. I think what I liked the most was the quest system: the game always gives you tips about how to trigger every quest available and it always follows the format "put specific digimon and maybe an extra conditional", these quests always have dialogues with the Digimon you put in the farm and as someone that never watched Digimon, I found those interesting to read. The quests themselves are just fetch quests most of the time but I usually have patience for this kind of stuff, it's almost therapeutic. This game has three main weakenesses in my vision. The 40 Digimon limit is way too small and I think this is the worst aspect of this game. Pokémon RBY had a limit of 240 Pokémon which is more than enough to have everything but here you have to keep deleting your Digimon to get more. The second weakness is how slow the menus are. I gave up looking up traits because it takes just too much time selecting a Digimon and pressing the Trait menu. The third one is that apparently the whole Digimon Egg mechanic is multiplayer exclusive. I didn't even know that there were Digimon that required online features to obtain until I was Platinum Rank and then I discovered that there was two different kinds of Digimon Eggs, the ones that are just Evo conditions and the multiplayer mechanic that's apparently a big feature considering how many eggs are in the menu. I gave up 100%'ing because that.

>>718290398
I say that about giving up but I know I could open a second instance in MelonDS and try to work my way to 100%, I just think it wouldn't be fun doing that now that I finished the game. I started with Tanemon which eventually ended up becoming a Lilamon. Since Lilamon is an Ultimate without an evolution, I was kinda hoping that there would be a fusion between her and Lillymon/Rosemon so that I could continue using her instead degenerating all the way back to Tanemon and following another line which is eventually what I did. I only got to evolve Tanemon into Taomon because I kept Lilamon capped at Level 46 hoping that the game would introduce me the Digiegg mechanic eventually so ended up degenerating very late into the game and I made sure to only evolve at Level 30 regardless of the stage so that I could keep the level stats. Moving away, I thought the farm was a cute mechanic even if I couldn't effectively use it. It reminds me of Super Training/Pokémon-Amie in Pokémon XY where you can see your Pokémon working up in the subscreen while you're minding your business. There's just way too many limits which alongside the slow menus made me use the farm just as a quest hub after I hit the Digimon cap.

>>718288507
They had CBT recently, game is really unpolished.

>>718290398
The early Story games are pure soul, but the menus are definitely painful. Which is kinda funny since most of the complaints about the games are about the maps or grinding, even though they're both realistically not that bad.

>>718282449
>not including the garurumon mount
rude

>>718290398
too bad about the 2 second delay as each digimon appears
>frequency of encounters
iirc turning massively increases your encounter rate, so you mitigate that by dragging the screen to see where you should go
>menuing
definitely a pain in the ass
training your digiman is horrific since you need to open the farm menu, enter the list, transfer them 1 by 1, train, then open the menu again and transfer them back 1 by 1
>deleting your digimon
iirc you could load them (i.e. consume them for an XP and stat boost), or was that starting from dawn/dusk
>>718291234
>degenerating
wtf you're supposed to do that whenever you hit a cap. the stat gains from level-ups are massive (your level resets on evolution too but you retain stats so you get a fuckton), while stat loss on devolution to baby is a mere 20~40% per stat
>quest hub
yeah you're supposed to get rid of digimon you don't like

Now if only they can get a decent writer for the recent Digimon anime. It's like the forgot how to do stories like they did for the early Digimon anime. It's like they can only must 12-18 episodes of story and the rest is monster-of-the-week in a 50+ anime series. You get these parts where you think the story is progressing and then 20+ monster-of-the-week episodes after and by the time you get back to the plot you kinda forget what happened previously since it's been a while since they touched the main story plot. It's odd since they keep making this same mistake for several anime series.

>>718293826
ghost game had a story. they just ran out of episodes to pull off the ending they had planned
colon got seriously fucked by the coof. episodes out of order, recording sessions with missing cast members, episodes rewritten to use fewer VAs, etc.
also don't tell me you're a buckbroken plotfag who can't stand episodic series

>aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh fuck nu digimon with their mon of the week
>maaan I can't wait to see which digi-destined who would have digivolve this week? last week with tai's Agumon to Greymon was fucking rad. Did i mention Sora's biyomon digivolved into Birdramon to beat Meramon?? HOLY HYPEEEE
fuck off digiboomer

>>718294531
>gen warring
>>>/vp/

>>718294725
YGO thread 2 blocks down, retard. Feel free to join your kind

What a bad time to take a shit.

>>718294317
>they just ran out of episodes to pull off the ending they had planned
Did they need another 60 episodes to set up the ending?

>>718281152 (OP)
I think i'm too old to be playing a daily gacha game that sucks my life away, lads

But Time Stranger yes

>>718295437
they got carried away and had too few episodes left when the time came to pull it off. it's that simple

Has there ever been a digimon rogue like before? I feel like the franchise would lend itself pretty well for something like that. Especially with the digivolution mechanics from the digimon world games. Imagine gaining stats during your run, getting random techniques and random items.

>>718296395
digimon world 2 is the closest, but it's undermined by
>excessive loading (every single attack is preceded by a loading screen, a single turn takes over a minute and makes the short battle BGM loop)
>annoying evolution mechanics (level caps that require you to sacrifice 2 mons then grind back up by ~30% inherited stats, no grinding shortcuts. oh and the DP grind too)
>unflattering plainness (barebones dungeon crawling, digibeetle does very little except clearing the occasional trap and shooting gay gifts)
not to mention how clunky the game is (transferring every item you buy, catching digimon with a full digi-beetle releases them instead of sending them to the server, heal block and other effects last until the end of the turn, making them useless if you go second, mastertyrannomon's status reset tech is glitched and doesn't work, etc.)

>>718293826
>It's like they can only must 12-18 episodes of story and the rest is monster-of-the-week in a 50+ anime series.
For Ghost Game it was more like 4-5 episodes with story in a 67-episode series

>>718298371
>another mindbroken plotfag
you hate to see it

>>718295593
maybe they shouldn't have wasted a thousand episodes with complete filler

Tell me about Gammamon, is he a chad thundercock like Alphamon and Omegamon or a wimpy cuck like Betamon?

>>718301854
watch your mouth you fucking pleb. you're talking about the strongest card duelist in all the digiland

>>718281152 (OP)
All westernized garbage they put too much resources on globalization. Aged up main characters with shitty designs instead of sexy elementary school girls. Sadly if they fail they will blame Digimon also cyber sleuth sucked and next game seems to be similar.

>>718281152 (OP)
TS looks good. All the interviews with the producer that suggest they actually put thought into designing it, the producer straight up said they went over budget already though, if it plays well it can at least start making a name of itself instead of a dead franchise.

BB will probably be a more normal shounen anime, at least not as episodic as GG. I don't know who thought it was a good idea to debut the bad guy and MC's final evos in the vpet instead of the anime.

Alysion is s TCG mobage of Digimon, niche TCG of a niche franchise. I hope it does ok but I think this one's going to die, maybe if they release it in China too and make it one shared global version. I never tried the older Digimon mobages but afaik all the global ones died quite fast

>>718304017
high-budget eyecandy is a curse. the higher the budget, the higher the expected returns, and therefore the more constrained, generic, and safe the game becomes. just look at how sterile, barren, and underbaked pokemon games are
>niche tcg
the card game is doing very well actually

>>718282449
Bratty...

>>718296890
>catching digimon with a full digi-beetle releases them instead of sending them to the server

>>718296890
>excessive loading (every single attack is preceded by a loading screen, a single turn takes over a minute and makes the short battle BGM loop)
Fuck, I need to make this a webm already, gimme a sec and keep this thread up.

>>718291234
>>718290398
ye anon, these games are designed with digivolving and dedigivolving constantly
these aren't really monster collecting games like pokemon, which is why everyone that comes from those games ends up disappointed in that regard

>>718281152 (OP)
Nah, they have no clue what made Adventure so popular, nor what made DW1 so memorable.

Adventure was popular because it was about kids learning to be friends both with each other and their digimon. Survive came close, but fucked up by being too mature still. People want digimon to bring out the best in you. They should bring the tamers together by giving them this digimon stuff to relate about.
Just like pokemon, pets stimulate the viewers' nurture and competition at the same time.

DW was memorable because of the exploration and mysteries, not because of pooping pets. The pooping and feeding and taking care of pets formed the bond with you and your digimon because it took thought and effort to make him evolve into something decent. But the pleasure came from actually progressing through an interesting and unexpected world with the pet you got. Once you could plot and optimize evolution and know the conditions and where to go it quickly lost most of its appeal. The worlds in the newer games are just trite and boring too. The sequels then just tried to replicate the pokemon gameplay formula, which was hopeless to begin with...

Pokemon became famous because kids are easy to addict to collecting. Digimon never pulled that off so its qualities were far to tricky to replicate over and over.

>>718306790
>still no Amped virus metal kit
I could paint it but that shit makes me mad

>>718305283
>just look at how sterile, barren, and underbaked pokemon games are
You picked a very, very poor example there.

>>718305647
Yes the whole catching system was annoying, iirc
-You need space in your digimon slots to recruit the digimon
-You need to bring specific gift items for the digimon's attribute (you can eventually buy the all attribute ones, and higher evo stage digimon need better gifts)
-After buying gifts in town you have to remember to move them from storage into your digibeetle inventory
-You have a limited item inventory, and the gifts share inventory with your battle items, dungeon trap items
-You have to shoot the items at the digimon in the dungeon, each shoot action causes the enemy to move so you can't get the digimon depending on the random dungeon layout or have to deal with low recruit rates
-You need to kill that digimon last in battle but it's still not 100% recruit at max hearts

>>718307405
Wasn't there a P-Bandai one? That feels like what they'd normally do. I'm definitely gonna paint mine. I've never been fond of the vaccine version.

>>718308042
Good god I hated gifts so fucking much.

>>718296890
>>718306572
Sorry, turns out video editors are still cumbersome today. Emulation can fix DW2 loading times as it's one of the few PS1 games that don't break under overclocking, applies to Beetle PSX/HW and Duck/Swanstation.

>Play digimon world 1
>Having fun all the time
>Until the digimon either transformed into numemon, or when I ran out of meats
>Start abusing digimons
>Get bored & stopped playing
>Play digimon world 2
>Catch metalgreymon
>Go as far as I can with him
>Give up when I have to start grinding for better digimons
>Digimon world 3
>Seiryu leader
>Give up playing this bullshit game
>digimon digital card battle
>Have fun all the way until analogman
>Stop playing
Ahhh, what a bunch of great game. I will play them again in a few years. Rinse & Repeat.

>>718311128
>>numemon
sounds like you haven't trained
>>run out of meat
tanemon literally tells you to run around the forest and find mushrooms
>>start abusing
that doesn't help unless you want a nanimon
>>dw2
the grind can be minimized by capturing and leveling up the strongest digimon you can find for fusion fodder, but even then the bigger problem is just how fucking slow the game is
>>dw3
I can't play it without turning off random encounters
>>until analman
but that's not even half the game

>>718284896
>The card game is not even on PC so no one cares
What the fuck were they thinking? Master Duel released on everything on day one.

This is a Digimon in the year 2025.

>>718305647
Man I hope we get a Keisuke cameo in TS and he's either completely miserable or a villain.

I hate how DW3 has no xp share mechanic, it would single handedly save the game for me not having to level all the mons separately

>>718282449
What does this expression tell us?

>>718312886
bamco originally had no plans to release a card game. I'm guessing fangame sims caused the execs to come down hard on the card game dept and pushed them to release a sim asap
people are still waiting for a switch 2 announcement for TS, and a home release for the card game

Yes yes, this is great and all,
but what's your stance on Recolormon?

>>718313304
>Recolormon
Doesn't exist.

>>718313194
the best you can do is funnel all exp into one mon, then when you get to the endgame you level them up the rest of the party blazing fast with the best equipment in the game, then start the legendary weapons quest
>>718313365
take your meds jijimon

>>718313304
They have plenty of digimons nowadays, there's no reason to have recolormon anymore.
I say Bandai need to do a reboot and get rid of all the recolormon, including black agumon.
They can only stay if they are redesigned to have different features instead of just recolored.

>>718311128
>ran out of meats
this why I love champíon Digimons with key pre-evolution, so I can ignore weight, that is why for example:

>Biyomon -> Kokatorimon
>+1000hp
>+3 car mistakes
>Biyomon

I can ignore weight and feeding all at all, plus it can evolve into Piximon so:

>+15 care mistakes
>0 - 15 weight
>+95 Happiness

I simply ignore feeding to get the care mistakes and just make sure to use the bathroom to avoid Sukamon.

Centaurmon is also good one since you can get him form Agumon and Gabumon and it can evolve to Giromon which allows me to ignore weigh and care mistakes

>>718312947
that is not a new one

>>718314515
Is it not the year 2025? Is that not a Digimon?

>>718314421
care mistakes and battles reset each evo though

>>718314421
any digimon that does not have care mistake limits is so usefull in early game since you can ignore food and replace the weigh requirement by stats

or you can simply ignore Care Mistakes requirement and just get the weight right at the very last moment

>>718315221
This, anyone with a vpet would know this.

>>718314421
I still dint know what a care mistake is, like by the numbers. When does not feeding it turn into a care mistake

>>718315562
digimon world is not a v-pet though

>>718315842
the 3 types in digimon world 1 are
>not sleeping at all
>not feeding (for some reason, counts twice if hunger runs out during training)
>street shitting
ps: digimon have an energy value that's replenished by feeding. if the value is above the threshold (e.g. you've been force-feeding it before the hunger icon pops up) you won't incur a care mistake even if the bubble expires. btw there's no way to display the energy value so you're better off feeding it anyway to make sure

>>718313202
The pleasure of being cummed inside

>>718316302
Seems a but esoteric. I also dont know how exactly learning moves works beyond 'he might learn it if he sees it'

And I owned the strategy guide as a kid

>>718315339
> ignore Care Mistakes requirement and just get the weight right

this one you still need to feed them something to about mistakes, perhaps in late game is easier but still too much work

>>718316449
>esoteric
not at all. they get hungry at fixed times (varies per digimon). if you want to avoid a care mistake, feed until the balloon goes away. otherwise, don't do anything.
>learning techs
there's a chance to learn a tech when you hit a multiple of 50 in brains training. not sure if it also applies to def training. you can savescum to boost your chances
alternatively, there's a chance when an enemy uses a tech you can learn. success rate depends on the slot number tech's specialty occupies
>if it's its primary type, then you have a good chance. it depends on the tech (from ~10% to ~30%)
>if it's the secondary one, they're way lower (around half the previous figures)
>and if it's the tertiary one, it's even lower, and around half techs are outright impossible to learn (i.e. you won't get dg dimension, prominence beam, meltdown, etc.)

>>718301067
Kill yourself episodicuck

https://humulos.com/digimon/partner/
Post em

>>718318723
Pretty good

>>718318505
dumb plotfag. ghost game was so good it led to digimon's renaissance after the unmitigated disaster that was appmon

digimon?

>>718313713
>play the whole ass game with 1 mon
Sounds awful

>>718321481
>1v1 game
>type effectiveness doesn't matter too much
>any differences in stats are compensated via training
>each unit has no significant unique abilities and can evolve into a bunch of different ones, eventually unlocking the entire tree and making them interchangeable
how is that awful? tripling the grind is the awful grind
if you're that desperate you can powergrind your party really early on if you go to asuka's heavy armory, then kill coelamon/divermon, then purple numemon in amaterasu's jungle shrine

>>718309646
turn based RPGs were made for emulators with a speed up toggle
the fact no game dev has ever thought of this and instead chose to throw turn based games into the nearest garbage bin altogether shows how they're all retarded niggers

>>718322037
the original dragon quest has a speed toggle. at 10 it goes sanic fast
why devs stopped including those still baffles me

>>718321343
digital monsters?
Digimon new the champions?