Thread 718321838

>download weeb game
>it isn't cel shaded graphics
Why some studios refuse to use cel shaded graphics and outline in anime games, without it, it will like a plastic doll that came directly from a horror movie.

>>718321838 (OP)
outlines are shit

>>718322324
Why, outline are a fundamental part of a drawing, it is good for a weeb game, useless if you're trying to copy botw.

>>718322324
Outlines are good but inverted hull only looks good on guilty gear models or something more retro like Wild Arms on PS2 or JSRF. Screenspace outlines are wonderful, however.

Cel shading doesn't look as impressive. Just look at pic related. Can't you see all the graphics? More graphics means it's better.

>>718324404
thats so fucking bad it makes you wonder how this shit went through the 5 billion layers of bureaucracy it takes to pass anything in corpo world

>>718321838 (OP)
I haven't seen any good examples of cel shading in years.

>>718324404
>Take characters mainly known for being in drawn formats
>Make them all realistic and 3d
DBFZ really nailed the look down it looks like the anime or manga came to life, this on the other hand, just rancid

>>718325204
The Gulity Gears don't look good to you?
There are times when it looks almost like a screenshot from an anime, somewhat polygonal models notwithstanding.

>import 2D images of a character of front, back and side views and model around them
Wait, is that how character modeling is done?

>>718325475
No
But sometimes the reverse is done, rendering sprites from a 3D model with a virtual camera

>>718325204
Cel shading has rarely ever been done in games, even with anime-styled shading games still get loaded up with soft shadows and other lighting effects instead.

>>718325475
Sure, It's how box modeling and making blockouts for sculpts is done, but a standard workflow of working in ZBrush is a little different.
2D Guides are pretty unreliable and most of the time it requires the modeler to have a lot of intuition if the illustrator straight up designs something that doesn't work in 3D.

Uma is a recent example of proper cel shading at least.

>>718325640
modern anime men are drawn and designed so effeminate that it's no surprise there's so much gay porn of them

>>718325813
My only real issue with it is that its models don't really make uses of additional texture maps like ILM Maps/ normal editing to allow say, the folding on the clothing to mimic the intentionality of actual anime but I say it gets the job done. That shit takes too long anyways for most devs.
Although I might be wrong, since the tail and face clearly have had some work done to prevent blobby shadows from showing up.

>>718321838 (OP)
>>718324404
>>718325813
why the fuck are you retards using the term cell shaded?
Cell shading is 2D hand-drawn graphics using multiple physical layers.

>>718325813
this looks nothing like cell shading.
that is cheap 3D animation
a single glance at the frame and seeing the aliased lines tells you everything.

>>718326202
I'm not into the technical details but even generally I'm not sure how the shadows in the game function, they're not baked in but they're definitely not normal self-shadowing either since you never see shadows cast by people's arms waving around.
Still, I think they decided to focus more on the variety of animations for characters than the model quality. Especially since it was initially a phone game.

>>718326474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cel_shading
Terms have different meanings in different fields you bumbling retard.

>>718322529
lines are a means to an end

>>718325813
>>718326671
neither of these are good examples of this "cel-shading" either
THIS is what decent "cel-shading" fucking looks like.

>>718326671
Yeah I agree, I'll clarify that I don't think they look bad I do like them.
>>718326892
Kind of cheating using non-realtime assets even if they are old lol

>>718324404
OP here, this is the biggest example l could say of why weeb games NEED cel shading graphics

weebs are the worst fotm faggots in history

>>718326474
>>718326892
>autistic retard that doesn't understand the difference between cel shading (a computer graphics term) and drawings on cells (where the term was derived from)

>>718327151
True, but take your missed the point award

>>718327283
retard I picked up on the difference and started using it correctly
silvers fucking arm is cel-shaded. not cell shaded.
you are an uncultured nigger with no fucking taste.
>>718326985
considering they were performing animation black-magic with the tech they had available it certainly doesnt feel like cheating.
especially when disney was trying to bury the film the entire time.

how does cris even find the time to make all of these nothingburger throwaway doodles

they should look like this

>>718327494
>silvers fucking arm is cel-shaded.
>gradient shadow
You didn't pick up on shit you braindead mistake of creation.

>>718325830
Anon I...

>>718327494
>considering they were performing animation black-magic with the tech they had available it certainly doesnt feel like cheating.
>especially when disney was trying to bury the film the entire time.
I'm not knocking the effort, they were doing really cool shit back then like Deep Canvas was also neat. I just don't think its fair still.

>>718327670
Tutorial?

>>718327679
>retard is so fucking mindbroken from cheap japanese slop he doesn't even know what good cel-shading looks like
sorry it doesn't look like ass with a bunch of jagged pixels.
That's what quality looks like.

>>718327748
considering how cheap and sloppy modern japanese shit often is when they do 3D it feels perfectly fair.

video game cel-shading in particular ALWAYS looks like ass unless they lean into the effect instead of trying to look pretty.

>>718326202
uma is a cellphone game. they need to fit everything under the shitphone GPU budget so no fancy ass shaders here.

>>718329204
you say that like modern phones aren't capable of running ps4 ports

>>718329204
Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I just figured phones were typically pretty powerful by now

>>718329515
the ones your average chink is using probably aren't